I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and
welcome to 3ABN today.
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My name is C.A. Murray
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and allow me once again to
thank you for sharing just--
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of your no doubt
busy day with us.
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So thank you for
your love, your prayers,
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your support of Three
Angels' Broadcasting Network
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as you partner with us in
doing the greatest work ever
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entrusted to the
frail and feeble hands
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of men and women
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that is lifting up the mighty
and matchless name of Jesus
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and preparing people
for the second coming
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of our Lord and
Savior Jesus Christ.
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I'm very excited today
for a number of reasons.
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I don't often get to have
my wife Irma with me and Boo,
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good to have you here.
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Good to be here with you, honey.
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She is Irma Guerra-Murray
but if you hear me slip
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and say Boo forgive me
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because that's the
name around the house.
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It's Boo.
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If I say Irma
then I'm usually upset
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but Boo is the normal name.
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I mean, she says
C.A., she is upset.
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So I'm upset.
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But we have names which are--
that's most married couples do.
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Our guests today
are Ray Rosenberg,
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Raquel DeLeon.
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When you get our age
you can't say old friends
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that you don't want to say.
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Oh, you want to
say dear friends,
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long time
friends, loving friends.
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We don't want
to say old friends,
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you want to say dear friends
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and they are of "Be
Transformed Lifestyle Health."
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So we are gonna
talk about health,
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we are gonna talk
about how to get healthy,
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how to repair
health, how to stay healthy,
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how to prevent
diseases as much as we can.
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And these two individuals
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are uniquely
qualified to talk about this.
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One day operate a
really nice lifestyle center
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and we can talk from
first hand experience my wife
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more than I because
you were there for--
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Twice. Yeah, yeah.
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I have been there for--
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For any number of
days, seem like forever
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but you were there--
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First time 12, 10 days
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and the next time
was with three weeks.
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Three weeks,
praise the Lord. Yeah.
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Yes.
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And you came out
looking good, Boo.
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Oh, I came back
feeling very good.
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Praise the Lord.
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And healthy. And healthy.
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Raquel is a nurse practitioner
and we are gonna talk about
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what that is and what that does
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and she is
married to a pharmacist
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and it don't get any
better than that, you know,
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pharmacist and a
nurse practitioner
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running a lifestyle center
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and what's good about
this is that it is small enough
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to offer almost one on one care.
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Yes.
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Its not-- It is one on one.
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Yeah, it is kind
of one on one, yeah.
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Yes, very much one on one.
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So its not, it's not
like a warehouse situation
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where you are one of
20 or one of 30 or one 40
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but one of the unique things
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about this lifestyle
center is that it's small.
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And then you have
two people who are very,
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very well equipped
to do this technically
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because they know their stuff
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but more than that
they have a loving,
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caring administrative style
that really makes you feel good
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when you are there.
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Definite dedicated
to each of the people
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that come through there.
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Yeah, they are. They are.
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So when they put you in
that hot tub with the slice
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and you are sweating
yourself to death, you know,
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that they love
you and its all love.
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They have it.
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They have a beautiful house--
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They do.
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And yet when they
have people in the center
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they sleep in the
sofas just to be there
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make sure that they
are there for the people
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that they are taking care of.
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Yeah.
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So they are right there
with you in the middle of night
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should you wake up
and have a bad dream
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they can come up
and hold your hand
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because they are right
there with you through it all.
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Ray and Raquel,
good to have you here.
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Thank you. Thank
you, C.A., and Irma.
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Yeah, I think we
both met these guys
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when they are first out
to come to 3ABN camp meeting.
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Yes. Yeah.
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That's true. A little while ago.
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Yeah. A little while ago.
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One, two years ago.
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Very interesting
because from the first time
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we met we became friends.
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Yes. Yes.
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We talked and it
just communicated
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really well between us
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and it always
been like that since.
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And in that first meeting
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Ray was
recovering from sickness.
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Yes, he was.
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We didn't have
that lifestyle center,
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we just-- we were
just thinking about it
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and it's so
wonderful that the 3ABN staff
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I met them and says,
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would you pray for my
husband because he was dizzy
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and he was hanging on to me,
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very dizzy and
Pastor Joe, Brenda,
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and C.A., and Marley
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they each prayed
for Ray to get better
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and God answers prayers.
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Amen. And Ray--
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So between the
prayers and some of your care
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I think Ray
will agree with that.
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Lord and your care
that got him back to shape.
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Back into shape. Yes.
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And then the idea of
the lifestyle center came
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but before we jump to that
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I think we want
to go to our music,
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then we want to comeback
and kind of walk us through
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the process because it's a
wonderful lifestyle center,
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we've been there.
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You are one of the few ones
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that are in the northern regions
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when we think of most
of the lifestyle centers
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are kind of down south.
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Black hills is up
north but you are in Michigan
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and there of different
climate, beautiful country.
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You are not in the city,
you are kind of in the country
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and really like that
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and not too far
from Andrews University.
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I guess within 30 minutes--
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Twenty minutes. Twenty minutes.
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Twenty minutes,
okay, so not too far.
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So that's a general
where Southern Michigan,
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very, very nice country.
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Let's go to our special music.
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This is John Watkins
and he's gonna be singing
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"Home Where I Belong."
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They say that heaven's pretty
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living here is too
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But if they say
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then I would have to
choose between the two
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I'd going home,
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going home where I belong.
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Sometimes when I'm dreaming
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it comes as no surprise
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That if you'll
look you would see
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that homesick
feeling in mine eyes
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I'm going home,
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going home, where I belong
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While I'm here
I'll serve Him gladly
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And sing Him all these songs
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Because I'm
here, but not for long
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When I'm feeling
lonely, when I'm feeling blue
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It's such a joy to know
that I am only passin' through
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Because I'm headed home,
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I'm going home, where I belong
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But while I'm here
I'll serve Him gladly
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And sing Him all these songs
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Because I'm
here, but not for long
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One day I'll be sleeping
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when death knocks on my door
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And I'll awake to find
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that I'm not homesick anymore
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Because I'll be home,
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I'll be home,
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where I belong
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Where I belong
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And well done, John
Watkins, "Home Where I Belong."
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Our guests are Ray Rosenberg,
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Raquel DeLeon of Be Transformed
Lifestyle in Coloma, Michigan.
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Just a good stones throw
north of Andrews University.
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And Ray is the CEO
and Raquel is the COO.
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Yeah, chief operating
officer and chief-- what's CEO?
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Executive.
Executive officer, yeah, yeah.
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Anyway they are
running it joint.
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They are.
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And I want to talk
about a couple things.
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Raquel, give me
because you are Filipino.
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Yes, I am. And one
can see that right off.
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Did you grew up
in an Adventist home?
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Yes, I did.
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My parents used to
be catholic but they--
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when they got married
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they converted to
Seventh-day Adventist church
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and so all of us,
all of their children
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were a Seventh-day Adventists.
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But I went to public schools
because there we couldn't
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afford the
Seventh-day Adventist academy
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which is about 50 miles away.
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But I was the
only Adventist in town
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and in the whole
school and I was teased
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and I was--
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I kind of had a
mental persecution
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about being
Adventist in a public school
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but I stood my ground.
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Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
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Now when did you
come to the States?
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I came here in 1986
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and I wasn't a nurse or
a nurse practitioner then.
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I studied at Andrews University
and I graduated in 1998.
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I mean, oh, yeah,
I think 1998 yeah.
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Okay, so that was
your nursing degree.
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When did you, now
you're a nurse practitioner
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as an advance degree.
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Yes, that's I graduated in 1998.
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I was registered
nurse in 1991. Okay.
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So I took my nursing
also at Andrews University.
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Walk us through the
difference between a--
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say an RN and a
nurse practitioner.
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RN which is registered nurse is,
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is somebody who took
courses like medical surgical
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or be gynecology, psychology
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and child medicine
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something like
that and past the NCLEX.
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It's board
certification for nurses.
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Well, a nurse practitioner
that take advance courses
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like medicine
subjects but it's a,
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it's kind of like a
shortened or abbreviated course,
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a little different from those
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with medical
degree or medical doctors.
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But you can write prescriptions?
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Yes, we do write prescriptions.
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There are some states that they,
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they don't need
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the collaboration
of a medical doctor.
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In Michigan we
need the collaboration
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from a medical doctor.
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So that's a nurse practitioner.
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Well, physician
you didn't ask this
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but physician assistance
and nurse practitioner
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are almost synonymous
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but only the physical
assistance they work under--
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they are supposed to be under
medical doctor supervision.
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Nurse practitioner
we can work on our own
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but in some states we
need some medical doctors
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supervising us or
collaborating with us.
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Okay. Okay.
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Ray, your story
has a little different,
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a lot different
because you didn't grow up
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in an Adventist home.
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No I didn't. And
you are a Chicago guy.
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I'm a Chicago guy.
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Grew up in a Jewish environment.
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My parents were Jewish,
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we were Jewish at
least for the high holidays.
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My mother was more
religious than my father
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and when I grew
up and later married,
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I married girl who was catholic,
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who they accepted right away.
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She and I went to church
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but we didn't go
to catholic church,
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we went to Protestant
church and she passed away
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a number of years ago of cancer
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and then I met Raquel
and Raquel became my doctor.
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Yes.
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That's seriously interesting
thing to marry Boo, you know,
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you marry, you marry a doctor.
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You know, its not,
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it's not a bad
way to pick up a wife
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particularly when your
wife is nurse practitioner.
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But you are a pharmacist... Yes.
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And is that something
you always wanted to do,
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kind of backed into it?
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No.
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How did you become a pharmacist?
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I had been studying at
the University of Chicago
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for a couple of years
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with the intention
of going into medicine
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and I was going to transfer
to the University of Illinois.
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You know, what occurred
was I had gotten my housing
00:16:19.97\00:16:23.41
and that was all set
and then all of a sudden
00:16:23.45\00:16:25.85
it gets right to the end
00:16:25.88\00:16:27.68
when the school
year is beginning
00:16:27.72\00:16:29.08
and they had lost my records
00:16:29.12\00:16:32.95
and I wasn't able to
get in and in a panic
00:16:32.99\00:16:38.36
I went to the next
thing which was pharmacy.
00:16:38.39\00:16:41.40
So I really got pushed into it.
00:16:41.43\00:16:43.97
So obviously that
is default setting.
00:16:44.00\00:16:46.00
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:46.03\00:16:48.17
Now, Raquel life long Adventist,
00:16:48.20\00:16:50.14
born into an Adventist
family not so with you.
00:16:50.17\00:16:51.81
How did you run across
00:16:51.84\00:16:53.68
or the Lord bring
you into Adventism?
00:16:53.71\00:16:56.04
Well, that was, that was what
I was starting to say before--
00:16:56.08\00:17:00.02
after I met Raquel and
started going through her
00:17:00.05\00:17:02.82
on a professional basis
00:17:02.85\00:17:04.79
she invited me to
go to church with her
00:17:04.82\00:17:07.86
and I took her up on the offer.
00:17:07.89\00:17:10.66
And I said, what
church do you belong to
00:17:10.69\00:17:13.03
and she says the
Remnant Church and I heard
00:17:13.06\00:17:16.26
the Remnant Church what is that.
00:17:16.30\00:17:19.13
So we went from there.
00:17:19.17\00:17:21.90
Obviously the Sabbath thing
was not a big shock for you
00:17:21.94\00:17:24.84
because, you know,
coming from a Jewish background.
00:17:24.87\00:17:27.48
The first time you
stepped into an Adventist church
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how did you feel?
00:17:30.15\00:17:31.51
I felt very comfortable.
I felt very comfortable.
00:17:31.55\00:17:36.72
Lot of Raquel's
friends came up and greeted me
00:17:36.75\00:17:41.59
and made me feel very welcome.
00:17:41.62\00:17:44.43
Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
00:17:44.46\00:17:46.26
You know, Raquel was
telling me about that encounter
00:17:46.29\00:17:50.27
and it was very
good because she told me
00:17:50.30\00:17:53.97
that she had asked many people
00:17:54.00\00:17:57.14
before to visit
the church with you.
00:17:57.17\00:18:00.24
Tell us about that. Oh, yes.
00:18:00.28\00:18:04.38
Being a nurse practitioner
I see a lot of patients a day
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and I have invited people
00:18:09.75\00:18:13.86
who seem like friendly to me,
00:18:13.89\00:18:17.73
I invited them to church
00:18:17.76\00:18:19.29
and I've been
doing that for a year
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and nobody showed up.
00:18:21.66\00:18:25.07
And when Ray--
when I invited Ray
00:18:25.10\00:18:29.47
and thinking
that he won't show up
00:18:29.50\00:18:33.21
because that was the
trend that they don't show up so
00:18:33.24\00:18:36.71
and I went to church
and he was already there
00:18:36.75\00:18:40.25
at the parking lot
waiting and I was watching him.
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My car was tinted at that
time he cannot see me inside.
00:18:46.89\00:18:53.90
So I was watching him
00:18:53.93\00:18:55.26
and he was taking
his last puff of tobacco
00:18:55.30\00:18:59.93
and then I think
he sprayed something
00:19:04.81\00:19:07.64
and then he went to church
00:19:07.68\00:19:11.41
and then I followed.
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We did not see other that time
00:19:15.88\00:19:18.95
and I was shocked
when he showed up.
00:19:18.99\00:19:21.49
Praise the Lord.
00:19:21.52\00:19:22.86
Now, at this point
00:19:22.89\00:19:24.23
there is nothing
going on between you guys.
00:19:24.26\00:19:25.59
You are just
patient and caregiver
00:19:25.63\00:19:29.76
and you invited him to church.
00:19:29.80\00:19:31.13
Right. Okay.
00:19:31.17\00:19:32.50
So Praise the Lord.
00:19:32.53\00:19:33.87
Now let's ease it along
00:19:33.90\00:19:35.97
obviously the
relationship changed.
00:19:36.00\00:19:39.17
The question I have is
in whose mind did the idea
00:19:39.21\00:19:42.58
of a ongoing relationship
appeared first Ray or Raquel?
00:19:42.61\00:19:47.82
Who kind of
thought about well, may be?
00:19:47.85\00:19:50.02
Well, I was thinking
because every Sabbath
00:19:50.05\00:19:53.79
or Saturday he came to church.
00:19:53.82\00:19:58.13
So thinking that
he had something,
00:19:58.16\00:20:02.76
you know, in mind so I
didn't go to church there,
00:20:02.80\00:20:06.40
I went to another church.
00:20:06.43\00:20:10.91
That is, that is--
00:20:10.94\00:20:12.51
She want to keep
him focused on the Lord.
00:20:12.54\00:20:13.88
That's right.
00:20:13.91\00:20:16.08
It was a test I suppose to see
if he continues going to church
00:20:16.11\00:20:22.02
and know that I won't be there.
00:20:22.05\00:20:23.65
Okay.
00:20:23.69\00:20:25.02
So you are trying to
access is he coming for church
00:20:25.05\00:20:26.86
for just a closer walk with Thee
00:20:26.89\00:20:28.59
or just a closer
walk with me, you know.
00:20:28.62\00:20:30.93
We need to switch it to Ray.
00:20:35.20\00:20:36.63
Was it just a
closer walk with Thee
00:20:36.67\00:20:38.23
or just a closer walk with she?
00:20:38.27\00:20:39.93
Well, I'll answer that
but first let me say this.
00:20:39.97\00:20:43.44
Raquel will tell
you if you ask her
00:20:43.47\00:20:46.04
whether she
spent time going home,
00:20:46.07\00:20:48.91
more time
looking in front of her
00:20:48.94\00:20:50.68
as to where she was driving
or in the rearview mirror
00:20:50.71\00:20:53.48
to make sure I
wasn't following her.
00:20:53.52\00:20:57.95
Oh, that's cute too.
00:20:57.99\00:21:01.09
I know because there was
a guy who was following me
00:21:01.12\00:21:06.56
at one time so I was--
I didn't like that idea
00:21:06.59\00:21:10.63
that somebody is following me.
00:21:10.67\00:21:13.84
So you did know that he was him?
00:21:13.87\00:21:16.40
It wasn't him.
Oh, it was not him.
00:21:16.44\00:21:19.57
So you had general personal
stalker there for a while.
00:21:19.61\00:21:21.61
Yes, there was. Oh, my soul.
00:21:21.64\00:21:22.98
Okay, so now you
want to make sure
00:21:23.01\00:21:24.35
that this guy is not,
00:21:24.38\00:21:25.71
not coming out
of that same boat.
00:21:25.75\00:21:27.08
Right.
00:21:27.12\00:21:28.45
Where you
intrigued by the church,
00:21:28.48\00:21:31.75
were you intrigued by Raquel
what was brining you or both?
00:21:31.79\00:21:35.89
Both. Back to church.
00:21:35.92\00:21:37.39
Both. Absolutely both.
00:21:37.43\00:21:40.63
It was a feeling of belonging.
00:21:40.66\00:21:43.80
It was feeling of hearing
answers to questions that had
00:21:43.83\00:21:47.84
entered my mind for years
and I was never able to get
00:21:47.87\00:21:52.01
an acceptable answer too.
00:21:52.04\00:21:55.61
And yet everything
seemed so clear cut
00:21:55.64\00:21:59.01
at the Adventist church.
00:21:59.05\00:22:02.38
The answers were
there, you could find them
00:22:02.42\00:22:05.65
if you looked for them
00:22:05.69\00:22:08.16
and if you couldn't find them
00:22:08.19\00:22:09.52
there is only someone
there to help you find.
00:22:09.56\00:22:10.89
Help you find, yeah.
00:22:10.93\00:22:12.26
Well, you are-- I mean, you are
pharmacist kind of left brain
00:22:12.29\00:22:14.06
logical sequencing kind of guy.
00:22:14.10\00:22:16.43
So and lately this
is making sense to you.
00:22:16.46\00:22:18.50
Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:18.53\00:22:19.90
And there is the of chance
that you may pick up a partner,
00:22:19.93\00:22:24.17
that's kind of a good deal.
00:22:24.21\00:22:27.94
Especially
knowing the partner. Yes.
00:22:27.98\00:22:31.08
And of course you got
an ongoing relationship
00:22:31.11\00:22:32.61
because she is a
caregiver for you.
00:22:32.65\00:22:34.25
Yes. Yes.
00:22:34.28\00:22:36.15
And became-- I
was power of attorney
00:22:36.18\00:22:40.12
for my mother-in-law
00:22:40.16\00:22:42.29
who was living out in
this area and I switched her
00:22:42.32\00:22:47.36
to her medical care to Raquel,
00:22:47.40\00:22:51.37
so we saw each other more often.
00:22:51.40\00:22:54.30
And I liked what I
saw. Well, praise the Lord.
00:22:54.34\00:23:00.08
So obviously the
relationship grew,
00:23:00.11\00:23:02.04
you pop the
question and she said yes,
00:23:02.08\00:23:04.71
so we wouldn't be here
today, we wouldn't have a show.
00:23:04.75\00:23:08.25
How long after you were married
00:23:08.28\00:23:10.82
did the idea of
the lifestyle center
00:23:10.85\00:23:13.05
began to germinate in your mind?
00:23:13.09\00:23:17.69
Well, I have that in
mind for a year or so
00:23:17.73\00:23:23.30
after I was
diagnosed with cancer,
00:23:23.33\00:23:28.04
it was cervical cancer
00:23:28.07\00:23:30.31
and I got healed from it
00:23:30.34\00:23:36.54
in a natural way.
00:23:36.58\00:23:38.88
I was scheduled for
surgery, radical mastectomy
00:23:38.91\00:23:43.95
and hysterectomy
because that my doctor said
00:23:43.99\00:23:50.73
I have a stage three cancer.
00:23:50.76\00:23:54.20
And when--
00:23:54.23\00:24:01.17
the surgery was
December 26, 1995
00:24:01.20\00:24:05.17
that was scheduled
and I thought for a while
00:24:05.21\00:24:11.11
before that and then I
talked to an ob-gynecologist
00:24:11.15\00:24:15.25
who was a Filipino and
I talked to her and said,
00:24:15.28\00:24:18.55
I told her about my problem
and she said, oh, no, no,
00:24:18.59\00:24:22.56
you take these herbs, cloves,
00:24:22.59\00:24:27.10
wormwood and black walnut whole
00:24:27.13\00:24:30.90
and see, you know,
what it does to you.
00:24:30.93\00:24:34.00
So I did it but I
cancelled the surgery first
00:24:34.04\00:24:39.51
because I didn't really
want to go through surgery.
00:24:39.54\00:24:42.24
So I took the three
herbs for two or three months.
00:24:42.28\00:24:49.75
I think it was three months
00:24:49.78\00:24:51.22
I was taking it
three times a day
00:24:51.25\00:24:53.49
and I changed my diet.
00:24:53.52\00:24:56.32
I used to eat chicken and
stake and so I gave up all that
00:24:56.36\00:25:02.90
including cheese and I
was using cabbage, carrots,
00:25:02.93\00:25:08.54
and celery like two
or three times a day
00:25:08.57\00:25:12.51
and I felt better afterwards.
00:25:12.54\00:25:17.25
And then I went to a doctor
an ob-gynecologist is to get
00:25:17.28\00:25:22.68
a second
opinion and he tested me
00:25:22.72\00:25:30.16
and then he-- when he came out
00:25:30.19\00:25:32.36
and talked to me he
said, who said you have cancer
00:25:32.39\00:25:37.13
and I said oh, my
gynecologist and he said,
00:25:37.17\00:25:42.70
oh, you must be kidding.
00:25:42.74\00:25:44.77
It's like a babies skin.
00:25:44.81\00:25:48.74
So you don't have cancer.
00:25:48.78\00:25:51.11
So I felt, yeah, got better
and of course the churches,
00:25:51.15\00:25:57.72
the Filipino American churches
00:25:57.75\00:25:59.49
in Berrien
Springs was praying for me
00:25:59.52\00:26:01.49
and they were
supplying my needs.
00:26:01.52\00:26:05.46
They will give me
food and something to juice
00:26:05.49\00:26:09.90
and they were very helpful.
00:26:09.93\00:26:11.27
So and I told the news
about it and said, wow,
00:26:11.30\00:26:15.44
I need to help other people
who have the same problem.
00:26:15.47\00:26:20.71
So the lifestyle
center was a good thought.
00:26:20.74\00:26:24.51
I heard of lot
of lifestyle centers
00:26:24.55\00:26:27.18
but I haven't been in one
00:26:27.22\00:26:29.75
but I was ready
studying the herbs at that time
00:26:29.78\00:26:32.92
because I started on
three herbs the wormwood,
00:26:32.95\00:26:35.52
cloves and walnut whole thing.
00:26:35.56\00:26:39.46
So that's how I started it
00:26:39.49\00:26:41.36
and then I was in my
office in the hospital
00:26:41.40\00:26:48.37
and there was a man
who was not scheduled
00:26:48.40\00:26:50.71
for me to see
and the staff ask me
00:26:50.74\00:26:53.68
if I want to see him
and I said I don't know him
00:26:53.71\00:26:58.61
but anyway let him in.
00:26:58.65\00:27:01.45
So he came into my
office and he said I understand
00:27:01.48\00:27:09.22
you're interested
in lifestyle center
00:27:09.26\00:27:12.66
and I got a mansion here
nearby and here's the key.
00:27:12.69\00:27:19.87
So he dropped the key
in front of me on the desk
00:27:19.90\00:27:25.54
and cling and said, oh,
00:27:25.57\00:27:27.78
there is a key
from heaven, is said.
00:27:27.81\00:27:31.41
And said, oh, you
know, just use the building,
00:27:31.45\00:27:36.22
you don't have to
pay me but pay me later
00:27:36.25\00:27:38.95
when you are ready making money.
00:27:38.99\00:27:41.12
So guy just
walks in out of street
00:27:41.16\00:27:43.46
and just puts the keys
to a mansion on your desk?
00:27:43.49\00:27:45.86
Right. That's a little unusual.
00:27:45.89\00:27:48.33
And we visited the mansion
00:27:48.36\00:27:53.10
Ray and me, our friends,
00:27:53.13\00:27:56.91
Steve Lemon and Debbie
00:27:56.94\00:27:59.04
and we went to
look at the mansion.
00:27:59.07\00:28:01.21
Its so gorgeous
inside, it has beds ready
00:28:01.24\00:28:06.72
and nice drapes and curtains
and it has eight bedrooms.
00:28:06.75\00:28:12.82
It's a three storey
building, eight bedrooms,
00:28:12.85\00:28:17.09
the second and
third in it has a deck,
00:28:17.13\00:28:19.96
its beautiful deck
out there and I said,
00:28:20.00\00:28:22.86
this makes a
good lifestyle center.
00:28:22.90\00:28:27.24
So we had meetings there
00:28:27.27\00:28:29.57
and then after a month or so
00:28:29.60\00:28:35.08
we were just making
plans, we have a couple
00:28:35.11\00:28:38.51
who really wanted to be
there to stay there also
00:28:38.55\00:28:43.99
and then all of a
sudden the owner came to us
00:28:44.02\00:28:49.42
and he said, well, I
need to pay the rent.
00:28:49.46\00:28:53.46
I mean, I need to pay taxes
00:28:53.50\00:28:58.10
so if you can give
us rent on this day
00:28:58.13\00:29:01.84
and its only $800 a month or
so and Ray and me looked at him
00:29:01.87\00:29:08.08
and said well, we
haven't been making money.
00:29:08.11\00:29:10.81
We don't-- we
haven't started yet
00:29:10.85\00:29:12.98
and you said that,
00:29:13.01\00:29:14.95
you know, we give you money
if we already making money.
00:29:14.98\00:29:20.39
He said, well, you
know, the taxes are so high
00:29:20.42\00:29:23.56
I pay $1800 twice a month--
00:29:23.59\00:29:29.33
twice a year
00:29:29.36\00:29:31.70
so and I don't have money.
00:29:31.73\00:29:34.60
So Ray and me look at each other
00:29:34.64\00:29:38.27
and said, well,
00:29:38.31\00:29:40.28
I don't think this
is a right idea so,
00:29:40.31\00:29:43.58
so we said well, we
will think about it.
00:29:43.61\00:29:48.58
And here comes a lady in
our church and said, well,
00:29:48.62\00:29:53.36
you know, what do
you have in your hands?
00:29:53.39\00:29:57.56
And then she said,
she said, listen to me,
00:29:57.59\00:30:01.06
you have a farm house
00:30:01.10\00:30:04.43
that's not occupied of this date
00:30:04.47\00:30:08.30
so you know, can we convert that
00:30:08.34\00:30:10.67
and start small and
we will help you clean up
00:30:10.71\00:30:16.44
and paint and
this kind of things.
00:30:16.48\00:30:20.92
And Ray said,
well, it's a good idea
00:30:20.95\00:30:22.42
but there is only one
bathroom how can we do that?
00:30:22.45\00:30:27.32
And its easy, we can
make a bathroom upstairs.
00:30:27.36\00:30:31.99
There is a wall in closet
00:30:32.03\00:30:33.36
that's big enough for a bathroom
00:30:33.40\00:30:40.10
and or a shower and toilet seat.
00:30:40.14\00:30:44.87
So you had a house,
you had on a small farm
00:30:44.91\00:30:49.48
that you already
owned and it was just
00:30:49.51\00:30:51.45
a matter of converting
that into the lifestyle center?
00:30:51.48\00:30:55.28
Correct. And
that's where you are now.
00:30:55.32\00:30:57.99
Yeah, and it's a beautiful house
00:30:58.02\00:31:00.12
and one, two, two
levels, three levels.
00:31:00.16\00:31:04.79
Two levels. Two levels.
00:31:04.83\00:31:06.16
Two levels.
00:31:06.19\00:31:07.53
And you've got-- you
are surrounded by orchids
00:31:07.56\00:31:10.10
and it's a nice, it's
a nice piece of property.
00:31:10.13\00:31:13.07
It is beautiful.
Yeah, it's a very nice.
00:31:13.10\00:31:14.80
There is the house, kind
of sits up on little rise
00:31:14.84\00:31:17.47
and looks like
the White House there.
00:31:17.51\00:31:20.44
And-- That picture there.
00:31:20.48\00:31:23.24
Yeah, that's the
front of the house
00:31:23.28\00:31:25.51
and then you got
orchids out back,
00:31:25.55\00:31:28.05
you've peaches, you've got...
00:31:28.08\00:31:31.29
Cherries. Cherries.
00:31:31.32\00:31:32.65
Apples. Apples.
00:31:32.69\00:31:34.66
Of two kinds. Yeah, two kinds.
00:31:34.69\00:31:37.13
Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:37.16\00:31:38.66
And a nice place
to walk off the road.
00:31:38.69\00:31:41.56
So it's really,
really, really, quite nice.
00:31:41.60\00:31:44.33
And-- sorry.
00:31:44.37\00:31:45.97
But Raquel she keeps
herself in physical shape too
00:31:46.00\00:31:50.81
because she gardens a lot
and all those pretty gardens
00:31:50.84\00:31:55.61
that you saw there she
gets up in the morning,
00:31:55.64\00:32:00.55
the patients side doing
the treatments and the light
00:32:00.58\00:32:05.62
or the bath and
then she goes out there
00:32:05.65\00:32:08.59
and she is working harder.
00:32:08.62\00:32:11.19
That's my exercise.
00:32:11.23\00:32:12.56
Yes, she has
that beautiful gardens
00:32:12.59\00:32:15.16
and that all done by her.
00:32:15.20\00:32:16.70
Yeah.
00:32:16.73\00:32:18.07
Now, here is my
question because both of you
00:32:18.10\00:32:19.60
were working fulltime
where you not when this idea
00:32:19.63\00:32:22.37
sort of popped up?
00:32:22.40\00:32:23.91
We were both working full time.
00:32:23.94\00:32:28.01
Ray, you are in charge of--
is there a number of pharmacies
00:32:28.04\00:32:31.65
you are like a
district leader or a district--
00:32:31.68\00:32:34.22
No, I'm just a pharmacist
who goes from store to store
00:32:34.25\00:32:36.99
where they need
somebody to fill in.
00:32:37.02\00:32:38.55
Oh, okay. Okay.
00:32:38.59\00:32:40.36
He used to be fulltime in one--
00:32:40.39\00:32:42.86
Those days of leadership
are over with years ago.
00:32:42.89\00:32:47.50
But where I'm
going is that both of you
00:32:47.53\00:32:50.03
have to make some sacrifices
00:32:50.07\00:32:51.40
to kind of get this
thing off the ground as far as
00:32:51.43\00:32:54.14
cutting back on fulltime
work or adjusting your hours
00:32:54.17\00:32:56.91
to try to put
sometime to lifestyle center.
00:32:56.94\00:32:59.37
Yes, and Raquel now is for
all practical purposes retire
00:32:59.41\00:33:05.21
and devotes her fulltime
to the lifestyle center.
00:33:05.25\00:33:08.05
Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:08.08\00:33:09.42
And let me just
say at this point
00:33:09.45\00:33:11.82
and I would like say this
00:33:11.85\00:33:13.89
because I think this makes
us different than other people,
00:33:13.92\00:33:16.83
other lifestyle centers also.
00:33:16.86\00:33:19.93
Neither Raquel nor I
00:33:19.96\00:33:22.86
our partner
Steve or Debbie Lemon
00:33:22.90\00:33:25.97
have ever taken a penny
out of this lifestyle center
00:33:26.00\00:33:29.57
for ourselves in terms
of salary or anything else.
00:33:29.60\00:33:34.81
So its not only
Raquel or not only me
00:33:34.84\00:33:38.08
that have given up themselves
00:33:38.11\00:33:40.42
but Steven and Debbie have also
00:33:40.45\00:33:43.49
and there have been a
number, number of miracles
00:33:43.52\00:33:48.12
that have occurred there
00:33:48.16\00:33:51.26
and the glory
does belong to God,
00:33:51.29\00:33:54.50
there is no doubt about it.
00:33:54.53\00:33:56.16
We have seen things
that are just amazing.
00:33:56.20\00:33:58.53
So you see this sort of
as a calling almost more than
00:33:58.57\00:34:02.20
anything else
because you are not into it
00:34:02.24\00:34:05.17
for financial gain
00:34:05.21\00:34:06.88
and we're gonna
talk a little bit later
00:34:06.91\00:34:08.44
you actually offer scholarships
00:34:08.48\00:34:09.84
and if somebody can't
pay you treat them anyway
00:34:09.88\00:34:12.38
which I think is a blessing.
00:34:12.41\00:34:14.58
But from your working
00:34:14.62\00:34:17.52
and you're supporting yourselves
00:34:17.55\00:34:20.36
and the lifestyle
center is really a ministry.
00:34:20.39\00:34:25.09
Do you see it as such? Yes.
00:34:25.13\00:34:27.70
Yes, we do see it as a ministry.
00:34:27.73\00:34:30.17
we've helped a lot of
people guests on the phone,
00:34:30.20\00:34:34.80
phone calls because they cannot
afford to come and they are far
00:34:34.84\00:34:41.28
like from Florida, from
Canada, California they call me
00:34:41.31\00:34:46.95
and I don't charge
anything the phone conversations
00:34:46.98\00:34:51.85
or phone consultations
00:34:51.89\00:34:54.56
and they also
write me on Facebook.
00:34:54.59\00:35:00.20
Could you please tell me
what I can do for this and that
00:35:00.23\00:35:04.13
and I write it,
I write them back
00:35:04.17\00:35:07.50
and I don't
charge anything for it.
00:35:07.54\00:35:11.87
Also I make some-- I write
some articles on the Facebook
00:35:11.91\00:35:18.01
used to be weekly
00:35:18.05\00:35:19.85
but now its getting to be very--
00:35:19.88\00:35:24.09
we are so busy that
we cannot do the weekly
00:35:24.12\00:35:27.49
so we started on
cutting back to twice a month.
00:35:27.52\00:35:31.36
Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:31.39\00:35:32.73
And Ray has become as
if late a Facebook maven
00:35:32.76\00:35:35.43
putting the stuff up and
responding all the stuff.
00:35:35.46\00:35:37.50
So he's got a whole new
second career as it were.
00:35:37.53\00:35:39.97
As a typist also.
00:35:40.00\00:35:42.80
I like to say something about
what you said about a calling
00:35:42.84\00:35:47.18
because it is very
obvious when you out there,
00:35:47.21\00:35:52.18
you see there
every day interaction
00:35:52.21\00:35:54.92
with the people that call in,
00:35:54.95\00:35:56.28
especially the people
00:35:56.32\00:35:57.65
that are having a health problem
00:35:57.69\00:36:01.02
and every time
Raquel will immediately be
00:36:01.06\00:36:06.53
compassionate through the person
00:36:06.56\00:36:08.63
that has a problem
00:36:08.66\00:36:10.30
and so she would
never turn anybody away.
00:36:10.33\00:36:15.30
Even when the people are in
00:36:15.34\00:36:17.84
basically in a
state that you cannot,
00:36:17.87\00:36:21.34
that you know that you
probably cannot help you still,
00:36:21.38\00:36:25.71
Raquel is to
help them in someway
00:36:25.75\00:36:28.95
to make them more comfortable
00:36:28.98\00:36:31.45
and to trust the Lord
that can do the miracle
00:36:31.49\00:36:35.06
and this is
obvious all the time,
00:36:35.09\00:36:38.56
all the time with them and both.
00:36:38.59\00:36:41.96
So when we talk
about mission in philosophy
00:36:42.00\00:36:44.23
and someone ask you
the question okay, why?
00:36:44.27\00:36:46.80
You are both
highly educated people,
00:36:46.84\00:36:50.44
pharmacists don't grow on trees,
00:36:50.47\00:36:52.24
you have to go to
school and get that degree
00:36:52.27\00:36:53.71
and they don't give you
that degree you got to earn it.
00:36:53.74\00:36:56.04
You are nurse practitioner
that's an advance degree
00:36:56.08\00:36:59.71
and you are in
professions and it sounds crash
00:36:59.75\00:37:03.89
that can generate a
fairly decent income
00:37:03.92\00:37:06.82
and living both of you
and together working fulltime
00:37:06.86\00:37:10.06
at your
profession you can do well
00:37:10.09\00:37:12.93
but you almost quit your working
00:37:12.96\00:37:14.96
and you've cutback
00:37:15.00\00:37:16.33
so that you can
do this ministry.
00:37:16.36\00:37:19.73
Answer for us the question why?
00:37:19.77\00:37:24.67
Well, because God
cured me of my cancer
00:37:24.71\00:37:31.35
and Ray was also cured
by so many blessings...
00:37:31.38\00:37:39.25
And natural remedies.
00:37:39.29\00:37:40.69
And natural remedies
so we talked and said,
00:37:40.72\00:37:47.06
you know, we are--
even if we don't have income
00:37:47.10\00:37:52.97
we can still survive out
of our social security income
00:37:53.00\00:37:57.67
so why don't we
help other people.
00:37:57.71\00:38:00.51
So we dedicated ourselves to be
00:38:00.54\00:38:06.05
fulltime in our ministry
00:38:06.08\00:38:08.98
and that we can work,
you know, a few hours there
00:38:09.02\00:38:11.79
and one day a week or one
day a month that's what I do.
00:38:11.82\00:38:17.76
I work only one or two
days a month at the hospital
00:38:17.79\00:38:22.30
and he works only
when they call him.
00:38:22.33\00:38:25.53
Twenty to twenty
five hours a week may be.
00:38:25.57\00:38:30.24
God restored us to health
so we want other people to be
00:38:30.27\00:38:36.28
restored also in
our Creators' image.
00:38:36.31\00:38:43.82
So that's why we titled
our corporation Be Transformed.
00:38:43.85\00:38:51.49
And Raquel
really worked very hard.
00:38:51.53\00:38:56.50
She works every
minute during that day
00:38:56.53\00:39:00.10
and Ray is just the
most wonderful husband I see
00:39:00.14\00:39:04.97
because he works to support her
00:39:05.01\00:39:09.21
in what she wants to do
00:39:09.24\00:39:12.08
and what this God
has given you to do
00:39:12.11\00:39:14.95
and he is kind,
00:39:14.98\00:39:17.19
he is so patience and sometimes,
00:39:17.22\00:39:21.79
you know, I would them-- well,
I was there I would feel bad
00:39:21.82\00:39:24.99
because he goes to
work then he comes back
00:39:25.03\00:39:28.36
and then they are
sleeping in this sofas
00:39:28.40\00:39:33.03
and they are happy.
00:39:33.07\00:39:34.87
You know, we are
so happy to do so
00:39:34.90\00:39:36.97
and sometimes they
don't have the full house
00:39:37.01\00:39:40.34
so they could use bedroom
upstairs and they said no,
00:39:40.38\00:39:43.95
we need to be here so
that's for the patients
00:39:43.98\00:39:47.55
and they just really
very well match for each other
00:39:47.58\00:39:52.29
for what I see.
00:39:52.32\00:39:53.66
Well, obviously you both
bought into the mission of
00:39:53.69\00:39:56.89
Be Transformed and you
have dedicated your lives to it
00:39:56.93\00:40:01.53
but managing a
lifestyle center is no joke,
00:40:01.56\00:40:05.40
this is work
because you get up early,
00:40:05.43\00:40:08.20
you are preparing the
drinks, you are preparing
00:40:08.24\00:40:10.07
and some of the
stuff that we have to take
00:40:10.11\00:40:15.44
is not the best
tasting stuff in the world.
00:40:15.48\00:40:17.41
You know, there are things that
you have to do to regain health
00:40:17.45\00:40:21.28
and all of us not gonna
be able to walking apart.
00:40:21.32\00:40:23.52
Your health is broken down,
you got to do what's necessary
00:40:23.55\00:40:26.15
to get health back
00:40:26.19\00:40:28.12
and you are
preparing these things,
00:40:28.16\00:40:29.49
you are making these things,
00:40:29.52\00:40:30.86
your food actually is
very, very good tasting.
00:40:30.89\00:40:34.46
Some of those vegetable
drinks are not are walking apart
00:40:34.50\00:40:38.83
but the food is very,
very good and you are invested.
00:40:38.87\00:40:42.90
Tell us a little
bit about the programs
00:40:42.94\00:40:44.97
or kinds of things you do.
00:40:45.01\00:40:46.37
Irma was there much longer
than I popped upon a weekend
00:40:46.41\00:40:48.58
to kind of support her.
00:40:48.61\00:40:49.94
But walk us through
what the programs are
00:40:49.98\00:40:51.48
and what happens
at Be Transformed?
00:40:51.51\00:40:53.42
Okay, our
programs are individualized
00:40:53.45\00:40:59.05
for our guest
condition or health condition
00:40:59.09\00:41:03.86
but mostly we do
the cleansing first,
00:41:03.89\00:41:08.73
cleaning with herbs.
00:41:08.76\00:41:11.40
So I use the three herbs
that I used to take to get rid
00:41:11.43\00:41:17.84
of my cancer and that's
what I use for cleansing
00:41:17.87\00:41:21.91
and I do that for seven
days but during the cleansing
00:41:21.94\00:41:25.55
with herbs supposedly we
will get rid of the parasites
00:41:25.58\00:41:32.25
which 99 percent of human beings
00:41:32.29\00:41:36.22
have parasites or
if not 100 percent
00:41:36.26\00:41:40.53
and the unwanted
bacteria and virus
00:41:40.56\00:41:44.03
they can be
ridden off with herbs
00:41:44.07\00:41:48.97
and I added other
herbs, other than the three.
00:41:49.00\00:41:52.67
So I use also papaya
seeds, the bitter gourd,
00:41:52.71\00:41:59.71
bitter leaves I
put them in capsules
00:41:59.75\00:42:03.32
so that its not that--
00:42:03.35\00:42:05.95
you know, its hard to swallow
bitter things so and I do those
00:42:05.99\00:42:13.26
in the mornings
together with the lemon drink.
00:42:13.29\00:42:17.67
We grind up or put in
Vitamix the whole lemon
00:42:17.70\00:42:24.11
including the rind and the seeds
00:42:24.14\00:42:26.44
so its bitter also
and it will help with the,
00:42:26.47\00:42:32.51
you know, the cleansing
and we do heavy metal cleansing
00:42:32.55\00:42:37.75
with the green drink
also its made of cilantro,
00:42:37.79\00:42:43.46
broccoli, pineapple.
00:42:43.49\00:42:45.13
The pineapple helps
to make the taste better
00:42:45.16\00:42:51.70
and after that we give
00:42:51.73\00:42:55.94
vegan lunch and light supper.
00:42:55.97\00:43:00.88
We give enough protein
because we need protein
00:43:00.91\00:43:03.81
during the
cleansing or the detox.
00:43:03.85\00:43:06.75
We cannot detox without protein.
00:43:06.78\00:43:10.35
So we don't do
the old fashioned fast
00:43:10.39\00:43:14.06
like just water fast or
none at all but we don't,
00:43:14.09\00:43:19.46
we don't do those anymore.
00:43:19.49\00:43:21.26
We just give the regular meal
and the juices and they help
00:43:21.30\00:43:28.60
one another in
detoxifying the liver.
00:43:28.64\00:43:31.87
Now I got to move
you around a little bit
00:43:31.91\00:43:33.48
because I don't want
our time to get away.
00:43:33.51\00:43:35.41
What's interesting
everybody gets a detox
00:43:35.44\00:43:38.01
because everybody who
comes and needs to be detoxed.
00:43:38.05\00:43:40.65
Right.
00:43:40.68\00:43:42.02
I think the detox maybe
the most challenging portion
00:43:42.05\00:43:45.22
of the treatment.
00:43:45.25\00:43:47.06
Having said that you
drop weight like a stone.
00:43:47.09\00:43:50.46
I mean, you won't
think about detoxing
00:43:50.49\00:43:54.03
you want to lose weight,
00:43:54.06\00:43:56.26
you lose 10 pounds
in a couple of days
00:43:56.30\00:43:59.87
because everything
is coming out, you know.
00:43:59.90\00:44:02.40
Your best friend actually
the bathroom for the few,
00:44:02.44\00:44:05.74
first few days
and then you are ready
00:44:05.77\00:44:08.18
to build back up because
you clean out all the junk
00:44:08.21\00:44:10.78
and your body is
ready now for restoration.
00:44:10.81\00:44:14.22
Yes, and we
rebuild and replenish.
00:44:14.25\00:44:18.75
Yes. And so--
00:44:18.79\00:44:21.02
Exercise is very
good when you be there.
00:44:21.06\00:44:23.39
And most importantly we
have that light infrared box
00:44:23.43\00:44:29.66
and when you sit in that box--
I have the picture of the light
00:44:29.70\00:44:34.80
that's the infrared box
00:44:34.84\00:44:36.17
it will help with
the detox process.
00:44:36.20\00:44:39.87
The box was
invented by Dr. Caleb
00:44:39.91\00:44:42.64
and what we have
is the replica of it
00:44:42.68\00:44:45.98
and used to be
famous around the world
00:44:46.01\00:44:50.52
but now it has-- we
don't hear of it anymore
00:44:50.55\00:44:54.16
but we have it.
00:44:54.19\00:44:56.46
And but it works very good
00:44:56.49\00:44:57.86
and one thing you
do sweat out toxins
00:44:57.89\00:45:00.96
and then you come out of
there and you lie a person down
00:45:01.00\00:45:04.20
and you do the--
is it a fermentation,
00:45:04.23\00:45:07.14
that is called fermentation
and that's something.
00:45:07.17\00:45:11.41
That's an
impressive little regime.
00:45:11.44\00:45:13.81
But that's after the
bath. That's after the bath.
00:45:13.84\00:45:15.84
That's really-- that
is a cold bath after that.
00:45:15.88\00:45:19.38
After that.
00:45:19.41\00:45:21.08
After the shower I do the
hot and cold fermentations.
00:45:21.12\00:45:24.65
We have big hydrocollator
with hot pads that last
00:45:24.69\00:45:30.93
more than an hour at a time.
00:45:30.96\00:45:33.90
So we can put that on the bed
00:45:33.93\00:45:36.33
and then the
guest lay down on it
00:45:36.36\00:45:39.27
and then put some hot packs
also on the chest or the neck
00:45:39.30\00:45:46.07
or wherever there is some
inflammation we apply that.
00:45:46.11\00:45:51.05
People who have knee
problem we put the hot pad also
00:45:51.08\00:45:54.52
and then we alternate
it with ice cold packs
00:45:54.55\00:45:59.72
and we get good
results from that.
00:45:59.75\00:46:03.66
Talk us a little
bit about results
00:46:03.69\00:46:05.79
because this is a
fairly rigorous routine,
00:46:05.83\00:46:08.76
I've gone through it,
Irma's gone through it.
00:46:08.80\00:46:11.57
But you've had
success, you had miracles,
00:46:11.60\00:46:13.34
you had success with these
natural remedies, have you not?
00:46:13.37\00:46:18.07
Yes.
00:46:18.11\00:46:21.54
I will tell some of the
miracles that we have had,
00:46:21.58\00:46:26.75
a 95 year old lady
she wanted to get well
00:46:26.78\00:46:32.99
because she didn't
want to go to the hospital.
00:46:33.02\00:46:36.73
She was brought to the
hospital but she run away
00:46:36.76\00:46:42.26
when AMA or
against medical advice
00:46:42.30\00:46:46.67
and went through the center
00:46:46.70\00:46:48.47
and I did the cleansing for her.
00:46:48.50\00:46:52.71
I did juicing, chains of diet,
00:46:52.74\00:46:57.61
the hospital they diagnosed her
00:46:57.65\00:47:01.45
with CHF or
congestive heart failure.
00:47:01.48\00:47:06.05
Her legs were
swollen, she was coughing
00:47:06.09\00:47:09.42
and after one week her
blood pressure went down,
00:47:09.46\00:47:16.06
her edema of her
legs went down also
00:47:16.10\00:47:21.04
and she even got mad at
me because her blood pressure
00:47:21.07\00:47:24.54
after a week went from 250/120
00:47:24.57\00:47:32.15
and it went down to 125/80.
00:47:32.18\00:47:38.95
And she said, my doctor told me
my blood pressure should be 150
00:47:38.99\00:47:44.43
you have to bring it back.
00:47:44.46\00:47:46.56
I said, no, that's even better
than what your doctor told.
00:47:46.59\00:47:50.27
And she said she
was feeling better
00:47:50.30\00:47:52.83
and she is now
about 98-years-old,
00:47:52.87\00:47:56.50
I saw her at ASI in Grand Rapids
00:47:56.54\00:48:00.14
she was walking by herself.
00:48:00.18\00:48:02.64
Praise the Lord.
00:48:02.68\00:48:04.01
So and her daughter
called me two weeks ago
00:48:04.05\00:48:10.55
she wanted her
mother to come back
00:48:10.59\00:48:13.49
because she is fatigue
00:48:13.52\00:48:16.99
and she is also
feeling short of breath
00:48:17.03\00:48:20.83
and so she will
be back, you know,
00:48:20.86\00:48:24.87
for another rigorous treatment.
00:48:24.90\00:48:28.17
Praise the Lord.
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Do you have any others
before our time gets away?
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Oh, we have
47-year-old gentleman
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suffering of depression.
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He works in a university
and he also had other problems
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like diabetes, lower
back pain, kidney stones,
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gallbladder stones.
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He stayed and his
wife with us for one week,
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no ten days and he got better.
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His depression was
gone, lower back pain is gone
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but then when he was going out
00:49:08.74\00:49:11.91
he felt that his kidney
stones was coming another one
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and so I told him
what to do at home
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and two months later
I saw him in a concert
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he was nice and trim
and he was very active
00:49:24.33\00:49:28.96
and his wife told me we
really live a new life now
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so thank you very much
for what you did to us.
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Praise the Lord.
00:49:38.01\00:49:39.34
And there is another lady
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with leukemia and the lymphoma.
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She has the cancer for
about five years already.
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She didn't want to go
through chemo and went with us
00:49:53.42\00:49:57.63
and her white blood
cells is steadily going up
00:49:57.66\00:50:04.27
and after ten days with
us it gradually went down.
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So it reversed the
trend and she said,
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I thought what I was
doing at home was enough
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but when I went to your center
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I found out that
it's not sufficient.
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So I'm so glad that I came.
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And she is the one
who was who really thought
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that she was doing
the right thing at home
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and she found out that,
00:50:29.16\00:50:31.29
you know, she is doing
very little of herself.
00:50:31.33\00:50:33.66
She was doing
juicing and you say
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while we were there go to center
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you do juicing
I do that at home.
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So basically this
works and you got test cases
00:50:39.50\00:50:44.27
and we say miracles
stories but basically its just
00:50:44.31\00:50:47.54
applying the laws of health
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so that when you,
00:50:50.35\00:50:51.68
when you apply the laws
of health things happen,
00:50:51.71\00:50:54.62
positive things happens.
00:50:54.65\00:50:56.05
We can call them miracles
but they really are the laws
00:50:56.08\00:50:58.95
that God has put
in us and in the world
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to make people
healthy and you do that.
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We want to take this moment now
to go to an-- the address roll.
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Here is how you can make contact
00:51:09.40\00:51:11.10
with "Be
Transformed Lifestyle Center."
00:51:11.13\00:51:14.04
They can evaluate you.
00:51:14.07\00:51:15.40
You do testing before
and then you do testing after
00:51:15.44\00:51:18.31
so you can show
00:51:18.34\00:51:19.97
that
improvement has taken place.
00:51:20.01\00:51:21.98
And should you want to
make contact with Ray and Raquel
00:51:22.01\00:51:24.55
and we highly
suggest that you do.
00:51:24.58\00:51:26.75
Here's how you
can do precisely that.
00:51:26.78\00:51:31.92
If you would like more
information about the services
00:51:31.95\00:51:34.09
offered by the Be
Transformed Lifestyle Center
00:51:34.12\00:51:36.79
you can write to
1500, Friday Road,
00:51:36.83\00:51:40.30
Coloma, Michigan 49038.
00:51:40.33\00:51:43.67
That's Be Transformed Lifestyle
Center, 1500, Friday Road,
00:51:43.70\00:51:48.70
Coloma, Michigan 49038.
00:51:48.74\00:51:52.41
You can also call 269-470-1797
00:51:52.44\00:51:58.08
that's 269-470-1797
00:51:58.11\00:52:02.68
or go online
for program details,
00:52:02.72\00:52:04.89
facility information and more
00:52:04.92\00:52:06.79
at betransformedcenter.com
that's betransformedcenter.com.
00:52:06.82\00:52:12.63