I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people.
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Hello, friends, and
welcome to 3ABN Today.
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My name is John Lomacang
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and if you are
returning, you know that,
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but if this is your
first time tuning in,
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welcome to this network
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where we believe that
Jesus is using this ministry
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to carry the gospel
around the world 24 hours a day,
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seven days a week, not
only through television
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but through
radio and the internet.
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And today, I'd
like to encourage you
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to remember this network
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because we have a
wonderful program for you today.
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You know, the gospel is
not just a preaching gospel
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and a teaching
gospel and a music ministry,
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but Jesus did more
healing than He did preaching.
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And today, our
guests have come from India
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as well as from
America to share with you
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how the Lord is transforming
lives and getting people
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from every nation ready
for the coming of our Lord.
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So do stay tuned, I know
you are gonna be inspired.
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Also I'd like to
thank you for your prayers
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and your financial
support of this network
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that keeps us going and growing.
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We believe that it is
important to continue going
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until Jesus
returns to take us home,
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but also, we have some music.
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One of our good
friends, Rosemary Malkiewycz,
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who is a part of 3ABN Australia
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is going to
sing a song entitled,
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"Do They See Jesus in Me?"
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Is the face that
I see in the mirror
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The one I want others to see
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Do I show in the way
that I walk in my life
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The love that you've given to me
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My heart desires to be like you
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In all that I do all I am
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Do they see Jesus in me
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Do they recognize your face
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Do I communicate your love
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And your grace
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Do I reflect who you are
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In the way I choose to be
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Do they see Jesus in me
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Well, it's amazing
that you'd ever use me
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But use me the way you will
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Help me to hold out a
heart of compassion and grace
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A heart that your spirit fills
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May I show forgiveness and mercy
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The same way
you've shown it to me
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Do they see Jesus in me
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Do they recognize your face
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Do I communicate your love
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And your grace
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Do I reflect who you are
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In the way I choose to be
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Do they see
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Jesus in me
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Well, I want to
show all the world
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That you are the
reason I live and breathe
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So you'll be the one they see
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When they see me
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Do they see Jesus in me
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Do they recognize your face
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Do I communicate your love
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And your grace
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Do I reflect who you are
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In the way I choose to be
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Do they see
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Jesus in me
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Jesus in me
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Thank you, Rosemary.
What a wonderful song.
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Wasn't that a wonderful song?
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Oh, yes.
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I tell you, "Do
They See Jesus in Me?"
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And our guests today
are here to let you know
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that Jesus can be
seen in many ways,
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not just the singing of the word
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and the preaching of the word
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but also the
ministry to the hurting
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and to those who need healing.
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And particularly, the ministry
today is focusing on India,
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quite a country
and quite a challenge.
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So let's welcome our guests
Pastor John Stephen Sundaraj,
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good to have you here today.
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Since you are
within my arm reach,
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I have to shake
your hand. Welcome back.
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Thank you.
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We had a wonderful visit
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the last time
you were here at 3ABN
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and also your
wife Pooranam Stephen.
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Good to have you here today.
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I will shake your
hand little later.
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You are kind of a long way away.
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My arms are longs but
that's kind of a stretch.
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No pun intended, and
Pastor Wilbur Atwood.
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Good to have you here
today. Good to be here.
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And I'm excited
about this program
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because I had
been to India before
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and matter of fact the fun
part about being in India is,
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some of the people in India
said I could pass for Indian.
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And I have fun with the accent
too, but I won't do that today
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because I want to
respect your culture
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as it surely does deserve.
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But Pastor John
Sundaraj, tell us who you are,
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and I just told the people that,
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but where are you from,
which is obviously India,
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but what do you do right now?
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Kind of summarize that for us.
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Well, I come from the
southern part of India...
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Yes.
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Place called
Hosur, it's in Tamil Nadu.
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We have a medical
missionary training.
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Okay.
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That we've been
involved in the last 17 years.
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Wonderful. Yeah.
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The Lord has put a
desire in my heart to start
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a medical missionary
training to reach the people,
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the unreached people in India...
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Wow.
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And that's what
I have been doing
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and I had the
privilege to come to Wildwood,
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take a short training,
the six months training,
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and that really inspired
me to do something similar
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so that I can reach many
people with the health message.
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That's right. Yeah.
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That's what we are
really involved in.
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Wow. Well, thank
you for being here.
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I appreciate it so much.
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And to your right,
your wife Pooranam Stephen.
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I tried to get
the accent correct.
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Did I do pretty
good? Oh, yes. Yeah.
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So good to have you here today.
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Tell our audience
those who are watching
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and listening to
the program, what you do
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and how you are
connected to the ministry.
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Well, I'm the wife of pastor
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and I work in the
training center as a teacher.
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Okay.
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And all through my
wife, I always wanted to be
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a teacher to training
people and so all these years,
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I'm with him
teaching the young people.
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Wow, it's not good
that man should be alone
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and in more ways than
one and also ministry,
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thank you and
welcome to have you here.
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And also to my far
right, Pastor Wilbur Atwood.
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Good to have you here today.
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Pastor and also former president
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of Wildwood, am I correct?
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Correct.
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And give us a little bit
more about your background
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and what you do right now.
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Well, basically, as a young man,
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I was interested
in becoming a pastor
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but just at the moment
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when I could have
gone into being a pastor,
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God called me to go to Wildwood.
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Okay.
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And so I
started out as a student
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and eventually
became the president
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and it was during that
time that I met Dr. Sundaraj
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and had the privilege of being
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a little bit of a
part of his training.
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And now you are--
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Now, I want to just put
this in the proper context.
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Pastors really don't
retire, they just re-tire
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and keep on
driving, keep on moving.
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They get new
tires and keep going.
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And so you are still connected
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to the Ministry
of Wildwood, correct?
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Yes.
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At the current moment,
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I'm serving as the
pastor of the local church there
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and so I'm
still someone involved
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in the Ministry of Wildwood.
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Wow, well, thank
you for being here today
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because there is
obviously a connection between
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what you do and what the
Lord is now doing in your life,
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planting seeds in His heart.
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Now, you and your wife
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are planting seeds in the hearts
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and lives of the people
of your own culture in India.
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Give us a brief
history of your ministry.
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Now, I want you to mention
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that name is
Jeeva Jyothi Ministry.
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Now I have become
aware that in India
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everything has a
meaning behind it.
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Tell our audience what
does Jeeva Jyothi mean?
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Well, Jeeva Jyothi
means living light.
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Okay.
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You know we want to
spread the light of Jesus
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into the people
who are in darkness.
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Yeah.
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So give us a brief history like
a little bit of your background
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because I know that,
when we are growing up
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we don't necessarily
say, "One day, I'm going to be
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involved in a ministry
to my own people in India."
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Give us some of the
background so we can see
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how God led you to
where you are today.
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Well, from my
childhood, I always wanted to do
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God's work and I
want to preach the gospel.
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And so I had the privilege
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to go to Spicer
Memorial College,
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took my bachelor
training and then my masters
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and God also opened a way
for me to go to Philippians
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and do my doctoral studies
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and I was called
back to India to teach.
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I was teaching at
Spicer for a few years
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then the Lord put
a burden in my heart,
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you know, rather
than just being a teacher
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if I would train
more young people
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so that they can go
out and prepare people
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for the soon coming
of the Lord Jesus Christ.
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You know, one of
the Bible passages
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that really impressed my heart
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and the reason for
starting this ministry
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is found in Matthew 9:36-37.
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And I would just take
a moment to read this.
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"But when he saw the multitude,"
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that is Jesus "he was
moved with compassion on them,
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because they fainted,
and were scattered abroad,
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as sheep having no shepherd.
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Then saith he
unto his disciples,
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the harvest is plenteous,
but the laborers are few.
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Pray therefore the
Lord of the harvest,
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that he would send forth
laborers into His harvest."
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So you know this is the,
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the passage that
really motivated me.
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See, there are millions,
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it's more than 1.2
million people in India
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and we are just only 3.0--
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Are you sure,
you mean 1.2 billion?
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I'm sorry...
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Very sorry. It's
1.2 billion people.
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Right.
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That's right. Sorry for that.
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Yeah, it's 1.2
billion people in India
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and out of which it's only 3.0.
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You know it's a little
more than three percent.
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Who are Christians. Wow.
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And so I can understand
the vast majority of people
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who are still in darkness,
who need to know Jesus.
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That's right.
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So if I as a pastor
taking care of a church
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would not be sufficient.
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So I felt impressed to train
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hundreds and
thousands of young people.
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In fact, my vision, you know,
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the burden that God has
put in my heart to train
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thousand missionaries to
go out and share the gospel.
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So the Lord helped
us to come to Wildwood,
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get a training, and went back
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and started this
medical missionary training.
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Now before we go
into the specifics
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of the training and
then bring your wife onboard
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in the interview Pastor Atwood,
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I want you to
share because you met
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Pastor Sundaraj a
number of years ago
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when you were
involved in his training.
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Talk about that and
give a highlight to Wildwood
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and what they
are continuing to do.
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Well, we have students that come
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from all over the world,
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and John Sundaraj
came and when he first came
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he just kind of dropped in on us
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but I was able to talk
to him for a little while
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and I was very
impressed that he was a man
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that God could really use.
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And so I had to kind of struggle
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with committee a
little bit to let him stay
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but they let him stay
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and so he was able to
go through the training
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and I haven't been disappointed.
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You know, many times
students will come to Wildwood
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and then they like it in America
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and they want to stay in America
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but it's always thrilling to me
to see someone that will come,
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receive the training
and go back to their country
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and raise up
another memorial for God.
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Amen.
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You know it's very rare
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that we see the
fruits of our labor
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and I know that Pastor Atwood's
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heart is filled with joy today
to see the fruits of his labor
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planting the seed the Lord
did in your life raising you
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with the ministry of Wildwood,
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that's located in
Wildwood, Georgia.
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I had a chance to go down there.
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I really enjoyed being there,
I did a week of prayer there
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and what an amazing experience.
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It was good food, really gets
you to think about your health.
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A lot of people
don't think about
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the health aspect of the gospel,
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but it wouldn't make
sense to be a sick Christian
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and God came with--
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"We want to have life
and have it more abundantly."
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And I just want to-- Sure.
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I would just say
being at Wildwood
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was the best of my life.
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Those six months that I stayed,
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I have received
blessings physically,
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mentally and spiritually
and I would never forget
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the training at Wildwood,
and I'm thankful to them.
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Now, I want to
bring your wife onboard
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because your wife is a teacher
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and there is medical
missionary training involved.
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Pooranam, I want to say that
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and tell us what that means
because that's a wonderful--
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when I discovered
all these meanings,
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I was very excited about
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how God flavors the
names of those in India.
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You mean my name?
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Yes, Pooranam,
what does that mean?
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Oh, Pooranam means "whole."
In Tamil, we say "perfect."
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Okay.
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So my parents named me Pooranam
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and I want to be
whole in the ministry.
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Amen.
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Do something for Jesus,
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to make people know
God and change their lives.
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And that's exactly what
you are involved in now?
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Yes.
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Tell us about your role
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in the Jeeva Jyothi
Ministries there in India.
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Okay. I teach the trainees.
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Last year, we had the
25th class of students,
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and we trained 15 of
them, 10 of them graduated.
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Amen.
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During the training,
our students have classes
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in the morning and
work in the afternoon.
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Okay, during the classes
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they learn 28
fundamental doctrines
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of Seventh-day
Adventist, Daniel and Revelation
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and other
Christian living classes
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and other Bible
classes and health classes.
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We teach them massage,
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hydrotherapy and
healthcare and prevention.
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So students have
classes in the morning
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and work in the afternoon.
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During the weekends,
they go out to the community,
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visiting the sick people,
giving them simple treatments
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and they gather little children
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to teach them about Jesus,
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tell them Bible
stories, sing songs to them,
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and throughout their training,
they have different activities
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like they go out
to the public schools.
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We take them to public
schools to share health talk
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to the students over
there and they have...
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They have to conduct crusades
they have to select a pastor
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and our trainees will
go around visiting homes,
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inviting people to
come to the crusade.
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They participate in that.
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And they also have to
take colporteur training
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before they graduate.
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That's very rounded.
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I mean I'm going
through the preaching,
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the teaching Daniel, Revelation,
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the 28
fundamentals, colporteuring,
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reaching out to the community,
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going to the
schools to do health talks.
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I mean that's really
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and much of that
training you are involved in.
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Yes.
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What about the spiritual side,
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the teaching of
the fundamentals.
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You also do that? Yes.
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Yes, we do teach the
fundamental doctrines
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in the training time
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and they are
very much convinced.
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After they come to the training,
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they are living closer to Jesus,
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their lives are
touched, their lives are changed
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before they get out
of the training center.
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Now I want to say this correctly
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because as Pastor
Atwood talked about you,
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he said Doctor John Stephen
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and I've
discovered you are a doctor.
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Doctor, Stephen, I
just want to include that,
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all right, recognizing
God's accomplishments
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in your life, how
do you select people
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to be a part of the
Jeeva Jyothi Ministries?
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Well, we inform the
local conferences...
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Okay.
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And also the churches
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and we tell them
our requirements,
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those of them who
are baptized Adventist,
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who have a burden for God's work
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and if they show
interest they let us know
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and it's a motivation
that we give it to the pastors
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and also to the church leaders
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and they in turn
pass that information
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to their local church members
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and that's the way
we've been getting students.
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Now, these
students obviously not only
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from the local
church but obviously
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from the converts in India.
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Yes. Oh, yes.
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Tell us about some of
the evangelistic series
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because you
mentioned the evangelism
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is being done too and they have
to give evangelistic series.
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Asking the question, is
it just men giving the series
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or young ladies or women also?
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How do they reach
out in your culture?
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Just to
understand how that works.
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Well, preaching by women
is not that common in India.
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I didn't think so. Yes.
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When it comes to public
preaching, it's always men.
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Okay.
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But in terms of, you know,
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health messages and
giving Bible studies
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the women do play a
very important role.
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But all students during
the training they go out
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and we take them
for about 10 to--
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10 days to two weeks
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and we stay in
a particular place
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and it maybe a place
where there is no Christians,
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you know, and we
go house to house.
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Particularly, you know,
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we follow the
medical missionary method.
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We give them simple home
remedies with sick people
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and tell them we
are conducting a meeting
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and that we invite.
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You know, so that's
what the students do
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and then we select a preacher,
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maybe one of the
students would preach,
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our pastor
preaches and this is the way
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we've been able to influence
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many of the communities nearby
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and in many places
and by God's grace,
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our missionaries
were able to, you know,
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start up a
number of congregations.
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Amen.
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So it's the
season not just being
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strewn in different places
but churches are springing up.
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Amen. That's wonderful.
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And you know, the
challenge in India is,
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when I-- when I
was driving through--
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I wasn't driving when
I was in as a passenger
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going through
Bangalore and I saw
00:23:15.69\00:23:17.03
the thousands and
thousands of motorbikes,
00:23:17.06\00:23:20.20
which is a common
mode of transportation.
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That's right.
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I could not help but to think,
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"How is the Lord going
to reach all these people?"
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I mean there is
so much activity,
00:23:27.74\00:23:29.37
but it's good to
know that your ministry,
00:23:29.40\00:23:32.31
Jeeva Jyothi Ministries
00:23:32.34\00:23:33.68
with also Outpost
Centers International
00:23:33.71\00:23:35.58
and other
ministries like Asian Aid,
00:23:35.61\00:23:37.05
all these various ministries,
00:23:37.08\00:23:38.85
the Lord is working
in various capacities.
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You brought some
pictures with you today.
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I want to kind a have you
take us through those pictures
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and familiarize our audience
and be a little descriptive
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for those who may
be listening on radio.
00:23:50.89\00:23:52.89
We will bring those
pictures up and you will explain
00:23:52.93\00:23:54.60
what each of them is
that we're looking at.
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Well, what you see
there is our campus.
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You know we are
surrounded by mountains
00:24:00.74\00:24:02.77
and we've been praying
earnestly for a place as,
00:24:02.80\00:24:07.04
you know,
something in the nature
00:24:07.08\00:24:09.48
and God has provided it.
00:24:09.51\00:24:10.85
And that is what you see
00:24:10.88\00:24:12.21
and we have the church
building, the boy's dormitory
00:24:12.25\00:24:15.82
and the teacher's
house and the guest house
00:24:15.85\00:24:19.45
and that is what
you see in the picture.
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And--
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This is the last
graduation of our students.
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25th graduation. Wow.
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25, and they are
kneeling down praying.
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Yes. Kind of getting--
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It's a dedicatory prayer.
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See we always, you
know, help these graduates
00:24:35.30\00:24:39.27
to commit their
lives before they go out.
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So it's a commitment
and a dedicatory service.
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And what you see
here is the classroom.
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We have a simple
classroom facility
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and we have
some retired teachers
00:24:51.42\00:24:54.52
who are doing
voluntary service...
00:24:54.56\00:24:56.49
And they teach for our students
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Bible classes
and health classes,
00:24:59.79\00:25:01.96
and it's been a great blessing.
00:25:02.00\00:25:04.27
And also we teach our
students computer studies
00:25:04.30\00:25:08.57
so they will have
some practical knowledge
00:25:08.60\00:25:10.77
so that when they go out,
00:25:10.81\00:25:12.14
they can be a
blessing to the community
00:25:12.17\00:25:15.61
and it will also help them.
00:25:15.64\00:25:18.48
Massage.
00:25:18.51\00:25:20.02
Yeah, we teach
students massage in the class.
00:25:20.05\00:25:23.02
What you see here is--
00:25:23.05\00:25:25.42
they are
practicing chair massage.
00:25:25.45\00:25:29.59
Okay.
00:25:29.62\00:25:31.23
I see that the guys
are practicing on the guys.
00:25:31.26\00:25:33.90
Yes. Yes.
00:25:33.93\00:25:35.36
And as we have
already mentioned,
00:25:35.40\00:25:37.77
the students also do
work in the afternoon
00:25:37.80\00:25:43.14
and they help in the farm.
00:25:43.17\00:25:44.57
We grow rice, ragi and so
many grains for our own use
00:25:44.61\00:25:50.25
and also lots of
vegetables, so that--
00:25:50.28\00:25:51.91
Agriculture.
00:25:51.95\00:25:53.28
Agriculture work as Sister White
00:25:53.31\00:25:55.18
writes in the ABC of Education.
00:25:55.22\00:25:57.19
And they, you know, every one,
00:25:57.22\00:25:59.72
the staff members
and the students involve
00:25:59.75\00:26:01.92
in the farming
and agriculture work.
00:26:01.96\00:26:04.33
That has been a great blessing.
00:26:04.36\00:26:06.33
And God has
blessed us with this work
00:26:06.36\00:26:09.23
so that we can have
enough of food for our survival.
00:26:09.26\00:26:13.44
Wow, wonderful pictures
of baptism taking place here.
00:26:13.47\00:26:15.67
This is Ajay.
00:26:15.70\00:26:17.97
He was in the last
class, Hindu student.
00:26:18.01\00:26:24.15
We admitted him
exception but he was very good
00:26:24.18\00:26:30.45
and he accepted Jesus
at the end of the training
00:26:30.49\00:26:34.82
and now he is baptized.
00:26:34.86\00:26:36.86
Praise the Lord.
00:26:36.89\00:26:38.23
Would he stay on to
get some further training?
00:26:38.26\00:26:41.00
No. He is now taken as--
00:26:41.03\00:26:45.57
As teacher in
one of our schools.
00:26:45.60\00:26:47.84
Wow. So he is going to teach.
00:26:47.87\00:26:49.70
And he has proved
himself to be very committed.
00:26:49.74\00:26:51.97
And what you see
here is a small bakery
00:26:52.01\00:26:57.98
that we make peanut
butter, whole-wheat bread,
00:26:58.01\00:27:02.08
and it's not only
to support our ministry
00:27:02.12\00:27:04.72
but also we try to
share this with the community
00:27:04.75\00:27:08.82
and particularly with
the Adventist community,
00:27:08.86\00:27:10.83
we are very close to
their division headquarter.
00:27:10.86\00:27:13.16
And so we share our health foods
00:27:13.19\00:27:15.80
and help people to have a
better living through health,
00:27:15.83\00:27:21.00
you know,
healthful food and diet.
00:27:21.04\00:27:23.51
So that has been
a great blessing.
00:27:23.54\00:27:25.71
And here is an
interesting experience
00:27:25.74\00:27:27.68
that I want to share.
00:27:27.71\00:27:29.24
You know, our
students go out to the public
00:27:29.28\00:27:32.31
and they give
simple home remedies.
00:27:32.35\00:27:36.48
This is an interesting story
00:27:36.52\00:27:37.85
that I want to
share to the audience.
00:27:37.89\00:27:41.82
You know this particular person
actually is a Hindu priest.
00:27:41.86\00:27:46.43
Getting foot therapy? Yes. Yes.
00:27:46.46\00:27:48.43
You know one day
he sent a word to us
00:27:48.46\00:27:50.93
because he some how came to know
00:27:50.97\00:27:53.54
that our students are
doing simple treatments
00:27:53.57\00:27:56.00
to people who are sick.
00:27:56.04\00:27:58.17
And his one leg
was amputated before
00:27:58.21\00:28:02.18
because he was a diabetic.
00:28:02.21\00:28:04.68
And so he was
very much concerned
00:28:04.71\00:28:08.02
that when he got
wound in the next leg,
00:28:08.05\00:28:11.35
he was very much afraid
00:28:11.39\00:28:12.72
that he is going
to lose the next leg.
00:28:12.75\00:28:15.52
So he sent a word
and we went there.
00:28:15.56\00:28:18.76
We started treating those wounds
00:28:18.79\00:28:20.86
with simple charcoal remedies.
00:28:20.90\00:28:22.90
Within two weeks,
by the grace of God,
00:28:22.93\00:28:25.10
he was completely healed
and he was amazed because,
00:28:25.13\00:28:29.44
you know, that's the same
way he lost the previous leg.
00:28:29.47\00:28:32.81
And had he known, he
could have saved the leg?
00:28:32.84\00:28:34.28
Yes.
00:28:34.31\00:28:35.64
You know, and in
fact we told him,
00:28:35.68\00:28:37.18
if you would have
let us know earlier
00:28:37.21\00:28:38.91
we could have even saved that.
00:28:38.95\00:28:40.28
So we really praise
God that God is using
00:28:40.32\00:28:42.82
this simple home
remedies to save lives
00:28:42.85\00:28:46.02
and we also given
him natural remedies
00:28:46.05\00:28:48.29
even to get rid of his diabetes
00:28:48.32\00:28:50.99
which he did and he
is now out of medication,
00:28:51.03\00:28:54.56
you know, for his diabetes.
00:28:54.60\00:28:55.93
So we really praise God
for this simple home remedies.
00:28:55.96\00:28:58.67
And that way we are able
to pray with him every time.
00:28:58.70\00:29:02.80
So he always say,
"Please, pray for us," you know.
00:29:02.84\00:29:05.91
He is a Hindu
priest, so that gives
00:29:05.94\00:29:08.28
a great opportunity
to share about Jesus.
00:29:08.31\00:29:10.38
You know, and I
know that in India,
00:29:10.41\00:29:11.75
Hinduism is huge.
00:29:11.78\00:29:13.58
We went to some of the--
00:29:13.62\00:29:14.95
we saw some of the
Hindu temples there
00:29:14.98\00:29:16.35
and so to be able to reach out
00:29:16.38\00:29:17.72
and influence
someone for a positive way,
00:29:17.75\00:29:20.06
in a positive way
toward the truth of God's word
00:29:20.09\00:29:23.96
by health
remedies because normally
00:29:23.99\00:29:26.03
if you look at the situation,
he wouldn't say to you,
00:29:26.06\00:29:28.06
"Come and teach me
the 28 fundamentals."
00:29:28.10\00:29:29.53
No. No.
00:29:29.56\00:29:30.90
Because he's committed
to a different philosophy.
00:29:30.93\00:29:32.27
That's right. That's right.
00:29:32.30\00:29:33.64
But this has opened the door
00:29:33.67\00:29:35.00
because he sees
that and in worshipping
00:29:35.04\00:29:37.61
the various gods that Hindus do,
00:29:37.64\00:29:40.14
in respect, now he sees
the power of the home remedies
00:29:40.18\00:29:44.15
through the God that you serve
00:29:44.18\00:29:46.31
and through the
God that you serve.
00:29:46.35\00:29:47.75
It's amazing as I look at this
because you know, we saw the--
00:29:47.78\00:29:51.02
One thing I want
to just emphasize
00:29:51.05\00:29:52.45
for those who
didn't see the pictures,
00:29:52.49\00:29:54.36
in one of the
classrooms I saw the ladies
00:29:54.39\00:29:55.96
with all their
beautifully colored outfits.
00:29:55.99\00:29:58.36
One thing that India
is known for is beautiful,
00:29:58.39\00:30:01.06
colorful clothing.
00:30:01.10\00:30:03.06
And tell us a little bit about
some of the specific ministries
00:30:03.10\00:30:07.94
for the ladies that are there.
00:30:07.97\00:30:10.34
I know that we saw
the men practicing massage
00:30:10.37\00:30:14.11
on the men, the ladies
practice massage on the ladies.
00:30:14.14\00:30:17.28
Do you also do
things like teaching them
00:30:17.31\00:30:19.71
sewing and things like that?
00:30:19.75\00:30:21.08
Oh, yeah. Yes.
00:30:21.12\00:30:22.88
We teach the girls
as well as the boys.
00:30:22.92\00:30:25.69
Okay.
00:30:25.72\00:30:27.29
Mostly girls.
00:30:27.32\00:30:28.69
Okay. We teach them tailoring.
00:30:28.72\00:30:30.76
Okay.
00:30:30.79\00:30:32.13
They come--
00:30:32.16\00:30:33.50
At least three months,
we teach them tailoring.
00:30:33.53\00:30:37.57
They learn how to
stitch petticoats and blouses,
00:30:37.60\00:30:44.97
things like that.
00:30:45.01\00:30:46.34
And the girls are very
happy and they go back,
00:30:46.37\00:30:50.15
they teach their church
members of these trades.
00:30:50.18\00:30:54.25
When we were in
India, we saw a gentlemen,
00:30:54.28\00:30:56.79
so many of the
hand-- they don't have
00:30:56.82\00:30:58.75
a lot of electricity
in all over the place--
00:30:58.79\00:31:00.96
some of the hand
peddling sewing machines
00:31:00.99\00:31:03.59
and I was impressed
what they could do with that.
00:31:03.63\00:31:06.29
But I want to also
add another component
00:31:06.33\00:31:08.13
because what you
learned at Wildwood
00:31:08.16\00:31:10.57
which is in
Wildwood, Georgia, is what,
00:31:10.60\00:31:12.83
where the flame
began in your life
00:31:12.87\00:31:14.57
and I want to give
Pastor Atwood a chance
00:31:14.60\00:31:16.87
to inform some of our
audience, our listeners,
00:31:16.91\00:31:19.81
and our viewers that
Wildwood is still there
00:31:19.84\00:31:22.28
and share some of the things
00:31:22.31\00:31:23.65
that Wildwood
still has to offer.
00:31:23.68\00:31:26.31
Well, Wildwood is
still very much involved
00:31:26.35\00:31:31.05
in training students.
00:31:31.09\00:31:32.89
We get probably 20 to 30
students every six months
00:31:32.92\00:31:38.06
and out of that,
there are still individuals.
00:31:38.09\00:31:41.50
This very week, I took a family
00:31:41.53\00:31:46.50
who are going to start
another project in Brazil
00:31:46.53\00:31:50.24
and so they've
landed there yesterday
00:31:50.27\00:31:54.04
and God provided a
whole institution for them,
00:31:54.08\00:31:58.31
need some repair.
00:31:58.35\00:32:00.52
Also Wildwood is
involved in working to help
00:32:00.55\00:32:06.05
those that are
suffering from various diseases.
00:32:06.09\00:32:10.16
This is one of the ways
00:32:10.19\00:32:12.29
that we can meet
all kinds of people.
00:32:12.33\00:32:15.33
I remember one man,
he was a very wealthy man
00:32:15.36\00:32:20.17
and he was sick
so he had to come
00:32:20.20\00:32:23.44
and as the result of the
care that he received there,
00:32:23.47\00:32:28.38
he ended up giving $100,000
to the work there at Wildwood.
00:32:28.41\00:32:32.88
Wow.
00:32:32.91\00:32:34.25
We've had a
number of wealthy people
00:32:34.28\00:32:36.65
who were so
impressed and they even--
00:32:36.69\00:32:40.29
this one man,
he was so impressed
00:32:40.32\00:32:43.96
with the book Great Controversy
00:32:43.99\00:32:46.59
and with the spiritual
atmosphere at Wildwood,
00:32:46.63\00:32:50.43
he actually
wanted me to anoint him.
00:32:50.47\00:32:53.80
Now I don't usually
anoint non-Adventist,
00:32:53.84\00:32:56.57
but in his case, it
seemed appropriate to do
00:32:56.60\00:33:01.08
and it was the most
wonderful experience
00:33:01.11\00:33:04.18
I've ever had because
God just really helped him
00:33:04.21\00:33:08.55
to see that God was there
through the health ministry.
00:33:08.58\00:33:12.42
That's amazing.
00:33:12.45\00:33:13.79
And so many Christians
today, and I want to put...
00:33:13.82\00:33:16.06
Pull this together in
what's happening in India
00:33:16.09\00:33:17.83
and what's
happening here in America.
00:33:17.86\00:33:19.53
So many
Christians are not taking,
00:33:19.56\00:33:22.06
connecting themselves
00:33:22.10\00:33:23.43
to the health
aspects of the Bible.
00:33:23.47\00:33:26.20
And I want to also
go to the next level
00:33:26.23\00:33:28.50
that the health
aspects of the Bible
00:33:28.54\00:33:30.41
is not just something
we decided to include,
00:33:30.44\00:33:33.48
but it's very much
a part of the gospel.
00:33:33.51\00:33:34.84
That's right.
00:33:34.88\00:33:36.21
You know, God-- Jesus came,
00:33:36.24\00:33:37.58
that we may have life
and have it more abundantly,
00:33:37.61\00:33:38.95
John 10:10.
00:33:38.98\00:33:40.32
Now in the
culture that you are in,
00:33:40.35\00:33:42.95
you know, there is
Hinduism, there is Buddhism,
00:33:42.98\00:33:45.45
there is Islam, so
many different cultures.
00:33:45.49\00:33:48.66
Do you ever have
any challenges there
00:33:48.69\00:33:50.96
when it comes to reaching out
00:33:50.99\00:33:52.96
and how do you deal with
them, if you do have any?
00:33:52.99\00:33:54.93
Well, you know, it's--
whenever you talk to a Hindu
00:33:54.96\00:33:58.23
about Christ and sometimes
you will hear answer like
00:33:58.27\00:34:04.27
"Well, I'm not
interested," you know,
00:34:04.31\00:34:06.21
"That's your
religion," you know.
00:34:06.24\00:34:07.84
So Bible and
Christianity, to many Hindus
00:34:07.88\00:34:13.28
and Buddhists and Muslims,
it's a foreign religion.
00:34:13.31\00:34:17.59
But when you talk about health,
00:34:17.62\00:34:20.19
you know, they are
very much interested.
00:34:20.22\00:34:23.36
Because whenever they are
sick, they have health problems
00:34:23.39\00:34:27.23
and you tell them "Okay,
00:34:27.26\00:34:29.46
this is what you can do
to improve your health,"
00:34:29.50\00:34:32.37
then immediately
his attention is turned.
00:34:32.40\00:34:35.40
And then you
minister to their need
00:34:35.44\00:34:38.61
and slowly his
interest is developed.
00:34:38.64\00:34:41.01
They get to know what we
do and where we are from,
00:34:41.04\00:34:44.48
and we tell them
what we are doing.
00:34:44.51\00:34:46.18
And slowly as we
finish the treatment,
00:34:46.21\00:34:48.78
you know, we share
about the health messages
00:34:48.82\00:34:51.02
and then we say,
"Well, we can surely
00:34:51.05\00:34:53.56
pray for you and God
is going to help you."
00:34:53.59\00:34:55.92
You know, that way his
interest is now induced
00:34:55.96\00:35:00.00
and he is willing to
listen to the gospel.
00:35:00.03\00:35:02.86
So, you know, as Sister White
writes, Christ method alone
00:35:02.90\00:35:07.40
will give true
success in reaching people.
00:35:07.44\00:35:10.54
You know, so in
ministering to the needs
00:35:10.57\00:35:12.54
particularly
their physical needs,
00:35:12.57\00:35:14.48
you know, you have
a great opportunity
00:35:14.51\00:35:17.78
to touch their
hearts and that way
00:35:17.81\00:35:21.55
the door is open
to share the gospel.
00:35:21.58\00:35:23.62
Now what about
ministries to family?
00:35:23.65\00:35:25.32
Sometimes, you talked
about the facility you have,
00:35:25.35\00:35:28.26
the rooms that people stay.
00:35:28.29\00:35:30.53
About how many
can you accommodate
00:35:30.56\00:35:32.76
on your campus right now?
00:35:32.79\00:35:35.10
Well, you know, all
these years we have been
00:35:35.13\00:35:38.53
involved in training the young
people for medical missionary.
00:35:38.57\00:35:42.57
You know this is
evangelistic work.
00:35:42.60\00:35:45.91
But now we are
also so much impressed
00:35:45.94\00:35:48.54
to start a lifestyle center.
00:35:48.58\00:35:50.88
Okay.
00:35:50.91\00:35:52.25
Because this
will give opportunity
00:35:52.28\00:35:55.18
for the higher class people,
00:35:55.22\00:35:57.39
the educated, to
come into our facilities
00:35:57.42\00:36:00.42
to stay there for a week or two,
00:36:00.46\00:36:03.93
and learn about healthful living
00:36:03.96\00:36:06.43
and also how to
prevent lots of sicknesses
00:36:06.46\00:36:11.30
and this will give
them an opportunity
00:36:11.33\00:36:14.47
not only to learn
health but, you know,
00:36:14.50\00:36:17.17
they will slowly
learn the love of Christ
00:36:17.21\00:36:21.54
through the way
we minister to them.
00:36:21.58\00:36:23.75
You know so that's
what we are really praying
00:36:23.78\00:36:26.15
and we are working and
there is a construction
00:36:26.18\00:36:28.08
of a lifestyle center
00:36:28.12\00:36:29.45
that is right now
it's happening now.
00:36:29.48\00:36:30.82
Matter of fact, you
have a picture to show us
00:36:30.85\00:36:32.29
that construction that's taking
place on the lifestyle center.
00:36:32.32\00:36:34.92
That's right. That's it.
00:36:34.96\00:36:36.29
Explain what we are seeing here.
00:36:36.32\00:36:38.46
How many rooms are you planning
00:36:38.49\00:36:40.23
for this facility to have?
00:36:40.26\00:36:42.76
Well, we have six
guest rooms. Okay.
00:36:42.80\00:36:46.94
We are hoping to accommodate
about 10 guests at each time
00:36:46.97\00:36:51.91
and you have treatment
rooms for men and women
00:36:51.94\00:36:56.04
and the lecture
hall and the dining hall.
00:36:56.08\00:36:59.08
You know, this is of
course a very simple facility
00:36:59.11\00:37:01.12
but we are trying to
attract more educated people
00:37:01.15\00:37:07.66
so that they will
get to know Jesus.
00:37:07.69\00:37:10.39
You know, that's our focus.
00:37:10.43\00:37:12.33
How to reach this people
00:37:12.36\00:37:13.83
with the gospel
is through health.
00:37:13.86\00:37:16.23
You know, that's
one of the reasons
00:37:16.26\00:37:17.60
that we are focusing
on this lifestyle center
00:37:17.63\00:37:21.37
and this will also
give us an opportunity
00:37:21.40\00:37:24.11
to get little income
to support our ministry
00:37:24.14\00:37:26.61
so that we can be more
self supporting, you know.
00:37:26.64\00:37:30.41
You know one of
the things you see
00:37:30.45\00:37:31.88
and I'm sure this is
probably part of the focus is,
00:37:31.91\00:37:35.82
and let me use this in
the proper context here,
00:37:35.85\00:37:38.62
use this in the
context of America.
00:37:38.65\00:37:40.46
You know, in
America, we have American,
00:37:40.49\00:37:42.36
the Native American
often called Indian.
00:37:42.39\00:37:45.89
Well, there is
a saying years ago
00:37:45.93\00:37:47.76
that if you could
get the Indian chief,
00:37:47.80\00:37:50.47
you will get the Indians.
00:37:50.50\00:37:51.83
That's right. Okay.
00:37:51.87\00:37:53.20
And I see in your culture
that principle is similar.
00:37:53.23\00:37:55.90
If you get those who are wealthy
00:37:55.94\00:37:57.41
and heavily
influential in the communities,
00:37:57.44\00:38:00.24
chances are there are lot
of people that they influence
00:38:00.28\00:38:03.01
that whose hearts can be
moved to be open to the things
00:38:03.04\00:38:06.82
that Jeeva Jyothi
Ministries are able to offer.
00:38:06.85\00:38:11.09
Let's talk about some of
the future goals you have.
00:38:11.12\00:38:13.39
Now this facility,
we are gonna talk about
00:38:13.42\00:38:15.42
the needs that you have here.
00:38:15.46\00:38:17.59
In some of the earlier
pictures, I saw computers.
00:38:17.63\00:38:20.16
Yeah.
00:38:20.20\00:38:21.53
Are those provided by
donations or how does,
00:38:21.56\00:38:24.97
how does that
become a part of ministry?
00:38:25.00\00:38:26.33
Well, you know, in
fact, everything that you see
00:38:26.37\00:38:30.91
in our ministry is
basically a donation
00:38:30.94\00:38:32.64
Okay.
00:38:32.67\00:38:34.01
And I want to
really thank all the donors
00:38:34.04\00:38:37.48
who have been
praying and supporting
00:38:37.51\00:38:39.15
this ministry all these years.
00:38:39.18\00:38:42.05
I'm so grateful
to God for impressing
00:38:42.08\00:38:44.32
the hearts of these donors.
00:38:44.35\00:38:46.12
The computers
and all the buildings
00:38:46.15\00:38:51.19
that we have in the campus
00:38:51.23\00:38:52.96
and everything that we
see is basically donation.
00:38:52.99\00:38:56.20
Okay.
00:38:56.23\00:38:57.57
And so in this new facility
what are some of the equipment
00:38:57.60\00:39:01.07
that you are
going to need in there
00:39:01.10\00:39:02.44
because you talked about
00:39:02.47\00:39:03.81
therapy rooms and
various kinds of rooms.
00:39:03.84\00:39:06.07
Tell us about some of the needs
00:39:06.11\00:39:07.44
that, that new
facility is going to have.
00:39:07.48\00:39:08.81
Okay, well, right
now this lifestyle center
00:39:08.84\00:39:12.55
that you saw in the
picture is under construction
00:39:12.58\00:39:16.89
and it's, for short of
funds, it's kind of stopped
00:39:16.92\00:39:21.82
and we are praying
that the Lord will provide
00:39:21.86\00:39:23.96
the needed funds to complete.
00:39:23.99\00:39:26.13
And we still have
to do lots of things
00:39:26.16\00:39:31.17
towards the
completion of the constructions
00:39:31.20\00:39:33.00
and then equipments, you know,
like all the hydro treatments
00:39:33.03\00:39:39.51
and the massage treatments
00:39:39.54\00:39:41.81
and also we are
looking at some lab equipments
00:39:41.84\00:39:46.31
to test the blood
as the guests come in
00:39:46.35\00:39:50.39
and all the furnitures,
00:39:50.42\00:39:52.72
and those are some of the needs
that we have for the building.
00:39:52.75\00:39:56.69
Right, because you
can't just put that up
00:39:56.73\00:39:58.06
and I want to just go
back and emphasize something
00:39:58.09\00:39:59.56
that you said pretty quickly,
00:39:59.59\00:40:01.73
the building
primarily has stopped right now,
00:40:01.76\00:40:04.73
because you are
waiting for the funding
00:40:04.77\00:40:06.10
to come in and continue.
00:40:06.13\00:40:07.47
That's right, yeah.
00:40:07.50\00:40:08.84
And as you are a part
00:40:08.87\00:40:10.21
of the ministry of your husband,
00:40:10.24\00:40:12.41
Pooranam, I
like saying the name,
00:40:12.44\00:40:13.88
it has such a role to it.
00:40:13.91\00:40:15.68
Tell us some of
the needs that you see
00:40:15.71\00:40:18.41
that are part of this
future developing facility?
00:40:18.45\00:40:23.82
You mean for the
lifestyle center?
00:40:23.85\00:40:25.52
For the lifestyle center, yes.
00:40:25.55\00:40:27.99
As he has
mentioned about the furniture
00:40:28.02\00:40:33.09
and the equipments in the lab
00:40:33.13\00:40:38.50
or massage room or in
the hydrotherapy room,
00:40:38.53\00:40:43.37
all these involve money
00:40:43.41\00:40:46.21
and since we are going to start
00:40:46.24\00:40:50.35
this lifestyle
center or the training,
00:40:50.38\00:40:56.48
we need all this to
be done before we start.
00:40:56.52\00:41:00.56
Okay, and one other thing
00:41:00.59\00:41:01.92
that we are also interested
in serving the community.
00:41:01.96\00:41:05.43
So we would like to
start a community clinic.
00:41:05.46\00:41:09.16
Okay.
00:41:09.20\00:41:10.53
You know, there are
so many poor villages,
00:41:10.57\00:41:12.67
you know, they have to travel
00:41:12.70\00:41:14.17
quite a distance
to go to the hospital.
00:41:14.20\00:41:16.81
So we like to
start a community clinic
00:41:16.84\00:41:19.84
so that they can come in
and get the free treatment
00:41:19.87\00:41:23.61
with simple medications
and that is something
00:41:23.65\00:41:27.12
that we are also praying
00:41:27.15\00:41:28.72
in addition to
our lifestyle center
00:41:28.75\00:41:30.25
that will
minister to the, you know,
00:41:30.29\00:41:32.49
the higher class of society
00:41:32.52\00:41:34.56
and the poor
ones with this clinic.
00:41:34.59\00:41:36.16
Okay. Yeah.
00:41:36.19\00:41:37.53
So that's not a part
00:41:37.56\00:41:38.89
of the picture
that you just showed?
00:41:38.93\00:41:40.26
No, no.
00:41:40.30\00:41:41.63
That's a clinic that, you know,
00:41:41.66\00:41:43.00
that's part of our
goal for the future.
00:41:43.03\00:41:44.37
Wonderful. And
that's what we are praying.
00:41:44.40\00:41:45.73
And you know, it's
not an impossibility
00:41:45.77\00:41:47.10
because the Lord as
Danny Shelton often says,
00:41:47.14\00:41:49.37
"There is no lack
in God's finances.
00:41:49.40\00:41:53.68
That's right.
00:41:53.71\00:41:55.14
It's just in our pockets."
00:41:55.18\00:41:57.48
We talk about facility
and needs and the equipments
00:41:57.51\00:41:59.85
as you said for the
lab work and for the things
00:41:59.88\00:42:02.48
that you teach, hydrotherapy,
the different facility needs,
00:42:02.52\00:42:06.25
but also there is
needs for volunteers
00:42:06.29\00:42:08.29
and teachers, talk about that.
00:42:08.32\00:42:09.66
That's right, you
know, all these 17 years,
00:42:09.69\00:42:13.93
God has provided
some committed volunteers
00:42:13.96\00:42:17.87
and there were
number of missionaries
00:42:17.90\00:42:20.74
from US and Netherland
who had come to our place.
00:42:20.77\00:42:23.84
Australia also.
00:42:23.87\00:42:25.21
Yeah, from
Australia, that's right.
00:42:25.24\00:42:26.57
They had come there,
stayed for few months
00:42:26.61\00:42:28.71
like three months, six months,
00:42:28.74\00:42:31.01
and we are in
need of some teachers
00:42:31.05\00:42:34.82
who can come and
teach Bible classes,
00:42:34.85\00:42:37.39
health classes, and some
of these natural remedies,
00:42:37.42\00:42:42.49
and we also need some--
00:42:42.52\00:42:44.46
Skilled person.
00:42:44.49\00:42:45.83
Yeah, skilled person like
00:42:45.86\00:42:47.20
they can teach
auto mechanic and--
00:42:47.23\00:42:50.77
Motorcycle repair.
00:42:50.80\00:42:52.13
Motorcycle, that's right.
00:42:52.17\00:42:53.50
Carpentry. That's right.
00:42:53.54\00:42:54.87
And some of
those, you know, these--
00:42:54.90\00:42:56.81
because that's also our goal
00:42:56.84\00:42:58.74
to make our
missionaries self-supporting...
00:42:58.77\00:43:00.61
Self-supporting.
00:43:00.64\00:43:01.98
You know so that
they don't need to be
00:43:02.01\00:43:03.35
depending on somebody else.
00:43:03.38\00:43:05.11
They will learn the
skills and do their--
00:43:05.15\00:43:08.78
Do these skills for their living
00:43:08.82\00:43:10.59
and then share the gospel.
00:43:10.62\00:43:12.19
You know, so this is what
we are really working it out.
00:43:12.22\00:43:14.89
And also skilled labors,
00:43:14.92\00:43:16.26
you're talking about builders
because as I looked at the--
00:43:16.29\00:43:17.69
Yeah, that's right.
00:43:17.73\00:43:19.06
Yeah, we need
definitely builders,
00:43:19.09\00:43:20.53
you know, like this completion
of the lifestyle center
00:43:20.56\00:43:22.53
if there is somebody
who can come and help us out
00:43:22.56\00:43:24.87
in completing the construction
that would be a great help.
00:43:24.90\00:43:27.70
Painters, finishing carpenters,
people that can run electric.
00:43:27.74\00:43:31.37
That's right.
00:43:31.41\00:43:32.74
And also let's talk
about some of the future needs.
00:43:32.77\00:43:34.31
I saw some of
the computers you had
00:43:34.34\00:43:35.98
and they had big monitors.
00:43:36.01\00:43:39.65
Well, in America,
Pastor Atwood knows this
00:43:39.68\00:43:42.08
we are down to flat
screens and LCD monitors,
00:43:42.12\00:43:45.75
there is also a need to upgrade
00:43:45.79\00:43:48.36
some of the stuff you have.
00:43:48.39\00:43:49.72
Well, these are the
computers that we got in--
00:43:49.76\00:43:52.53
you know, used ones.
00:43:52.56\00:43:53.90
These are all used ones. Right.
00:43:53.93\00:43:55.26
We got it really
cheap and of course,
00:43:55.30\00:43:57.33
some of them, we
are not able to use now.
00:43:57.37\00:43:59.47
And so we are praying
that God will provided
00:43:59.50\00:44:01.57
some more equipment
00:44:01.60\00:44:02.94
so that we can
teach our students
00:44:02.97\00:44:05.54
the update information.
00:44:05.57\00:44:07.38
And let me also
ask another thing.
00:44:07.41\00:44:09.51
What about access to internet?
00:44:09.54\00:44:11.58
Do you have that
coming to your facility
00:44:11.61\00:44:13.11
or is that
something that's a dream?
00:44:13.15\00:44:14.55
Well--
00:44:14.58\00:44:15.92
I see your wife smiling.
00:44:15.95\00:44:17.29
We have access, but
it's-- the speed is very slow.
00:44:17.32\00:44:20.92
I mean you have
to wait for hours
00:44:20.96\00:44:22.62
sometime to download something.
00:44:22.66\00:44:23.99
Wow.
00:44:24.03\00:44:25.36
I mean you have
to pay a lot of money
00:44:25.39\00:44:26.73
to get speed internet
00:44:26.76\00:44:28.16
which we are not
able to do all this while.
00:44:28.20\00:44:31.70
I see, well, Pooranam,
00:44:31.73\00:44:33.34
what are you
going to say about that?
00:44:33.37\00:44:34.80
To me it's like a
dream because anytime
00:44:34.84\00:44:39.11
we want to check our
mail, it takes a long time.
00:44:39.14\00:44:44.65
We have to wait
until it is connected too.
00:44:44.68\00:44:47.62
And sometimes I have to travel
00:44:47.65\00:44:49.18
to the next
town to get internet.
00:44:49.22\00:44:52.15
So the question would
be that I'm gonna pose is,
00:44:52.19\00:44:54.52
is it available where you
are or is it not available?
00:44:54.56\00:44:57.86
Was it just the
cost that's prohibiting?
00:44:57.89\00:44:59.89
Yeah, it's the cost.
Yeah, basically it's the cost.
00:44:59.93\00:45:03.50
You know, and those who
are watching the program
00:45:03.53\00:45:06.37
as you can see the
Jeeva Jyothi Ministries,
00:45:06.40\00:45:11.44
give me the definition
again, it's not little light.
00:45:11.47\00:45:12.91
It's Living Light.
00:45:12.94\00:45:14.28
The Living Light.
00:45:14.31\00:45:15.74
The Living
Light is what the Lord
00:45:15.78\00:45:17.11
wants to continue to shine
in not only in Southern India
00:45:17.15\00:45:21.22
but also in the different parts
where the volunteers come from,
00:45:21.25\00:45:25.09
where the trainees come from.
00:45:25.12\00:45:26.45
They take it back
to their families,
00:45:26.49\00:45:28.46
to their villages,
to their place of work,
00:45:28.49\00:45:30.59
not just the poor class
but also the affluent class.
00:45:30.63\00:45:33.93
That's right. That's right.
00:45:33.96\00:45:35.30
What about automobiles?
00:45:35.33\00:45:37.33
I know sometimes I
talked about the motorbikes
00:45:37.37\00:45:40.37
but then how do you transport
00:45:40.40\00:45:43.41
and what kind of needs are there
00:45:43.44\00:45:44.97
if there are any in
the area of transportation?
00:45:45.01\00:45:48.04
Well, the Lord has
provided a small jeep
00:45:48.08\00:45:52.58
that we were able to
buy through the donations
00:45:52.61\00:45:55.72
that we got and we
certainly need a vehicle
00:45:55.75\00:46:00.06
so that we can
transport our students
00:46:00.09\00:46:01.86
to villages so
that they can minister.
00:46:01.89\00:46:03.93
You know, especially
00:46:03.96\00:46:05.29
when we have to
take more students,
00:46:05.33\00:46:07.20
we have no transportation.
00:46:07.23\00:46:08.56
They have to go by bus.
00:46:08.60\00:46:09.93
You know the public
bus. They go by bus.
00:46:09.96\00:46:11.73
So definitely yes, it is a need
00:46:11.77\00:46:14.07
that we can have to help
00:46:14.10\00:46:16.54
our students to
visit the communities.
00:46:16.57\00:46:18.31
Like a nice bus
that will carry them
00:46:18.34\00:46:19.77
and bring them
back because I know
00:46:19.81\00:46:21.14
that
transportation at best it's,
00:46:21.18\00:46:23.14
you know, I must say it
is a joy to drive in India
00:46:23.18\00:46:26.51
because not only Pastor Atwood,
00:46:26.55\00:46:28.85
if you haven't been there
yet, you need to go visit,
00:46:28.88\00:46:31.05
because while there are lanes
00:46:31.09\00:46:32.79
going in each
direction in India,
00:46:32.82\00:46:34.16
everybody makes their own lanes.
00:46:34.19\00:46:36.76
That's right. It's a journey.
00:46:36.79\00:46:38.29
It's an experience that
really you never forget soon.
00:46:38.33\00:46:41.93
Before I speak to the
audience about financial needs
00:46:41.96\00:46:45.40
and how they could participate,
tell us about your connection
00:46:45.43\00:46:48.10
with Outpost
Centers International.
00:46:48.14\00:46:50.14
Well, we have
become the member of OCI,
00:46:50.17\00:46:54.41
and OCI has accepted
us as one of their members
00:46:54.44\00:46:58.85
and it helps us to, you
know, have a network around the,
00:46:58.88\00:47:04.05
around the world and
they have all our information
00:47:04.09\00:47:08.32
in their website and anyone who,
00:47:08.36\00:47:11.96
you know, who is looking for,
00:47:11.99\00:47:15.46
to donate and
also for volunteers.
00:47:15.50\00:47:19.13
You know, we have all
the information at OCI.
00:47:19.23\00:47:21.27
Yes.
00:47:21.30\00:47:22.64
And so as doctor
said so wonderfully,
00:47:22.67\00:47:24.81
here's the information
that you need to contact
00:47:24.84\00:47:26.64
not only his ministry
00:47:26.68\00:47:28.31
but to become an effective donor
00:47:28.34\00:47:30.38
to the cause that
we just talked about.
00:47:30.41\00:47:32.38
If you would like to
know more about this ministry
00:47:35.55\00:47:37.82
or how you can support it,
00:47:37.85\00:47:39.19
then you can write to
Jeeva Jyothi Ministry,
00:47:39.22\00:47:42.32
Outpost Centers International,
00:47:42.36\00:47:44.19
5132 Layton Lane,
Apison, Tennessee, 37302.
00:47:44.23\00:47:50.00
That's Jeeva Jyothi Ministry,
Outpost Centers International,
00:47:50.03\00:47:54.40
5132 Layton Lane,
Apison, Tennessee, 37302.
00:47:54.44\00:47:59.91
You can call 423-236-5600.
00:47:59.94\00:48:03.85
That's 423-236-5600.
00:48:03.88\00:48:07.95
You can visit them
online at OutpostCenters.org
00:48:07.98\00:48:12.15
or email them
00:48:12.19\00:48:13.52
at jeevajyothiministry98
@gmail.com.
00:48:13.56\00:48:17.89
Well, friends, as you see
00:48:21.50\00:48:22.83
when Jesus had let
your light so shine,
00:48:22.86\00:48:25.40
He really meant
that in a spiritual
00:48:25.43\00:48:27.70
and in some ways a literal way
00:48:27.74\00:48:29.90
as the light is shining
wonderfully in Southern India
00:48:29.94\00:48:33.64
through the
ministry that God has called.
00:48:33.68\00:48:36.44
Pastor John Stephen Sundaraj.
00:48:36.48\00:48:38.65
Sundaraj, that's right.
00:48:38.68\00:48:40.02
And his wife
Pooranam Stephen. Yes.
00:48:40.05\00:48:41.72
And Pastor Atwood who
is continuing to shine
00:48:41.75\00:48:44.25
for the glory of God
there in Wildwood, Georgia.
00:48:44.29\00:48:47.52
We want to encourage you.
00:48:47.56\00:48:48.89
We have a second song
here that Rosemary Malkiewycz
00:48:48.92\00:48:50.99
is going to sing
entitled "Jesus in Your Heart."
00:48:51.03\00:48:54.06
Ask the Lord how can this Christ
00:48:54.10\00:48:56.87
who wants to life in
your heart make a difference
00:48:56.90\00:48:59.63
in the lives of
those not only here
00:48:59.67\00:49:01.30
in America but also in India.
00:49:01.34\00:49:03.41
May you be blessed
00:49:03.44\00:49:04.77
by all that the Lord
does in and through you.
00:49:04.81\00:49:07.78
If I could have one wish,
00:49:22.09\00:49:25.26
I know just
what I'd like to find
00:49:25.29\00:49:31.83
If I could have one
dream come true before my eyes
00:49:31.87\00:49:39.17
More than a pot of gold,
00:49:41.54\00:49:46.38
More than a pathway to the stars
00:49:46.41\00:49:51.52
More than anything I know,
00:49:51.55\00:49:56.29
I want Jesus in your heart
00:49:56.32\00:50:01.36
If I could paint a picture
00:50:10.91\00:50:14.51
In my mind of
what I'd like to see
00:50:14.54\00:50:20.62
If I could take you
once inside my deepest dreams
00:50:20.65\00:50:27.99
More than a treasure's glow,
00:50:30.56\00:50:35.46
More than a comet trav'ling far
00:50:35.50\00:50:40.60
More than anything I know,
00:50:40.64\00:50:45.67
I want Jesus in your heart
00:50:45.71\00:50:50.55
He's more than
all the world can give
00:50:55.52\00:51:00.66
When He truly comes
to live in your heart
00:51:00.69\00:51:07.63
Why do you try
to search for more?
00:51:10.67\00:51:15.57
When He's what you're
looking for in your heart?
00:51:15.60\00:51:22.94
So if I could have one wish,
00:51:25.01\00:51:28.22
I know just
what I'd like to find
00:51:28.25\00:51:34.92
And if I could have one
dream come true before my eyes
00:51:34.96\00:51:42.43
More than a pot of gold,
00:51:45.13\00:51:50.01
More than a pathway to the stars
00:51:50.04\00:51:55.31
More than anything
I know, I want Jesus
00:51:55.34\00:52:02.85
I pray you'll find Jesus,
00:52:04.55\00:52:10.33
I want Jesus in your heart.
00:52:10.36\00:52:15.36