I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome
again to 3ABN today.
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We are so thankful that
you join us each and every day
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and it's just a pleasure
to have this opportunity
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to introduce you to
some of God's special people.
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We are all special
in the eyes of the Lord
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but we have so many
wonderful testimonies
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and today is
going to be a good one.
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We just want to
thank you for your prayers
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and your
financial support of 3ABN
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because we couldn't be doing
what we are doing without you.
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I want to introduce you
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to our very special guest today.
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We have two gentlemen here
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that I had the
privilege of meeting
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when I was speaking at
the Eden Valley Annual Council
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and it was a story-- the
testimony was so wonderful
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that we just knew
we had to get them here
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so that you
could hear their story.
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And first of all we
have Pastor Elisha Rao Ganta.
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And pastor, it's so
wonderful to have you here.
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I'm also very happy to be here.
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Yes.
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And you little bit--
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and this is your
first time to be at 3ABN?
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This is first time for me to be.
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Yes.
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Well, don't be nervous,
you have a television ministry
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so I know you are
not nervous on television
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but sometimes its
intimidating when you don't know
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what somebody is gonna ask you.
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Yes.
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Well, we are
thrilled to have you here.
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And we also have Roger Stone
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and Roger is with the
Stones Valley Foundation.
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And Roger, you have
an amazing ministry.
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I think you started
something like 81 churches
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and you have 41 pastors on
your payroll for your ministry.
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And we will hear
little from Roger as well
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because God has been
using him in a major way
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to bless the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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and the Indian people.
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Well, first we
have a treat for you.
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We know how much you like music
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and today's
singer is no stranger
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to any of you if you watch 3ABN.
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This is a man who
has sung for presidents.
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He has quite the
reputation out there
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but he sings for the
glory of the Lord and he is--
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I'm pleased to
introduce Wintley Phipps
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who is going to be singing
"The Lord in Zion Reigneth."
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The Lord in Zion reigneth
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Let all the world rejoice
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And come before
His throne of grace
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With tuneful heart and voice
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The Lord in Zion reigneth
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And there His praise shall ring
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To Him shall
princes bend the knee
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And kings their glory bring
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The Lord in Zion reigneth
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And who so great as He?
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The depths of
earth are in His hands
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He rules the mighty sea
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O crown His Name with honor
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And let His standard wave
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Till distant
isles beyond the deep
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Shall own His power to save
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The Lord in Zion reigneth
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These hours to Him belong
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O enter now His temple gates
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And fill His courts with song
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Beneath His royal banner
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Let every creature fall
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Exalt the King
of heaven and earth
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And crown Him Lord of all
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Exalt the King
of heaven and earth
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And crown Him Lord of all
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Mercy.
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What a blessing it is
to listen to Wintley sing.
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We thank you, Wintley Phipps.
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Well if you are joining
us just a few minutes late
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our special guest today
are Pastor Elisha Rao Ganta
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from India and Roger Stone
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who is with the Stone's
Valley Foundation in Colorado.
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And we just want to
jump right into this.
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Elisha, when you
told me your story
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it was something that
glorified God in a way that I--
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its rare to hear how fascinating
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it is when God
intervenes in someone's life
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and turns it totally around.
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I shouldn't say its rare
but your's is a rare story.
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So let's just get started.
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You grew up in
what part of India?
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This is south
central state of India
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that called Andhra Pradesh.
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Okay.
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So...
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And you grew up in a very
poor and deprived environment.
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Yes.
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I lost my father when
I was very, very young,
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maybe between six
and nine-years-old.
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I was-- my mother was left alone
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with four children in a slum
in a hut in extreme poverty.
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So that hunger
drove me to the streets
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and I went
around begging for food,
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slept in railway
stations and bus stands
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and I ate
everything that was found like,
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leftover rotten fruits,
leftover food thrown off,
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food before
homes, before hotels,
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before any places.
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So I was--
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as I was going
there I was going in rags,
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torn clothes and
looking for food.
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Then you weren't
living at home at all?
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I mean, did your
mother just allow you to be
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on the streets or
she had no choice?
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She had no choice.
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She couldn't afford
to take care of all four.
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So she could take it off any two
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and the other two
are left on the street.
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We go and come but
mostly we are on the street
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exposed to abuse, exploitation,
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very dangerous
diseases and experiences.
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How does a child at
the age of seven-years-old
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basically you were
six to seven-years-old,
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how does a child know how
to survive on the streets?
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Are there gangs,
are there people,
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do you gang up
with other children?
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How do you learn the
rules of the streets even?
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When we go there we go
alone to spend a day or two
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but once we go there we
find lot of other children,
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the same
background and situation.
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So we gang up, gang up together,
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we team up together and then
live on the street on our own.
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Learn to live on our own.
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Some boys they polish
shoes, they some pickup rags
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and old plastic
bottles and it's very dangerous
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for girls of the same age.
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They live there and
expose to lot of abuse.
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Including sexual abuse.
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Including sexual abuse.
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I know many girls who they
just sleep along with the others
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and they are raped many
times and they get pregnant
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and leave the children there.
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And they are
with diseases like HIV
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and other sexually
transmitted diseases and all.
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So very pathetic situation
and this constant exploitation,
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harassment from people
on the street and police
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and other people on the street.
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But the
conditions there are such
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that there are a lot
of children on the street.
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Lot of children.
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It's estimated about
400,000 to 800,000 children
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in India on the streets.
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That's so amazing.
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Yeah, that number fluctuates
because it's a floating thing.
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They move from
one place to other.
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They are not
confined to any place.
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You were on the
streets for about seven years?
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About six, seven years.
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Okay.
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Tell us how you never--
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you didn't know
about Jesus Christ,
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you didn't know
anything about religion
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and your family was Hindu?
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Hindu.
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My father was a
Hindu, my mother was nobody.
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She was just
struggle for survival.
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Okay.
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She was after that.
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Here you are on the streets
and I guess within seven years
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you are getting
pretty street smart.
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Yes.
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Tell us how you
happen to pass by our church
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and the music attracted you.
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Tell us what happened.
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One day as I was
walking along the street
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not knowing where I
was going in the morning
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and as I was passing
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through a
building, church building.
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I heard beautiful
songs coming out of that.
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And then I went
there out of curiosity
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what's going on there.
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So I saw so many children
and few adults sitting there
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and singing songs.
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I saw a woman
telling them stories
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with the help of
pictures and all.
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As I was peeping through
the window that lady came
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and said, asked me to
come in but I was reluctant
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because I was with
torn clothes and dirty hair.
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So she took me and wash
me and gave me a lose shirt.
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I went and sat inside there.
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And within one or two
weeks there are some teachers
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who came from
an Adventist school
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and enrolled me under
Christian Children Fund, CCF.
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How did they find you again?
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Where you-- had you been going
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the whole two weeks there
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or how did they
find you to enroll you?
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I was there first and
then went back to the street
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and the pastor
came in search of me
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and he found me sitting
in a line begging for food.
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So he handpicked
me and then asked me,
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brought me there and asked me
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whether I wanted to go
to school and get education.
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I said, yes.
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So he enrolled my name
under Christian Children Fund
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and then sent me to Narsapur
Seventh-day Adventist School
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and that was like
heaven for me having good food
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and place to sleep and school
to go and then attend classes.
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So here you are about
14 years old at the time
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and had you had any
education whatsoever?
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I had some informal education
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like I know some
alphabets in my own language
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but I didn't know
anything about English.
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Okay.
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So I went there and learned
from the beginning, from zero.
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So I started with
A-B-C-D there at the age of 14.
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At 14 and here you
are now in-- I mean,
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God has literally
plucked you up off the streets
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because there were very
few positions available.
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Certainly.
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And because you
had been attracted
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to a church by beautiful music
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God opened the door for
you to get this education.
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Now tell us about
those years of education.
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You were evidently a
pretty bright student
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because you went on to college.
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Yeah, I worked very hard.
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I realized that
there was no shortcut
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for success except hard work.
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And worked day and
night and learned English
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and other subjects and
went through high school
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and from there I was
sent to Spicer College
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and did my education.
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There also the
Lord's hand was behind.
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Many times I was
trying to go away from there
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because I
couldn't pay fees and all
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but the Lord
somehow kept me there
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and I finished college education
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and came to the field
and joined as a teacher
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in one of the
Seventh-day Adventist schools
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in a town called Vijayawada.
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How long did you teach then?
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I taught there
for five, six years.
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And then something
absolutely amazing happened
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that was a turning point
in his life that took you
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from being a
teaching and opening the door,
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God plucked you up once
again to have you follow
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the path of becoming a pastor.
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Tell us about the train?
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Yes, as I was
traveling one day in a train
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from one place to a big
city that was Mary festival day,
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that was a pilgrimage day,
the trains are all very full.
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So I got in there
because I had to go to school.
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As I was there inside the school
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some people had
a fight and they--
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Inside the train?
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Yeah, inside the train.
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I was standing at the
door along with other people.
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So they pushed us
out of the running train
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so we fell from a running
train and a couple of women
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and three, four
people were dead on the stop
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and then I was
struggling for life.
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I was not able
to breathe properly.
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So then it's true
that we understand.
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So the train is running,
its going and it was just
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so crowded that they pushed
a number of you out the door
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just for room and
several people were killed?
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Killed.
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And then there you lay--
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Lay there unconscious.
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By the time I
regained conscience
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I thought that I remembered
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that I got on to
train and then fell
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and I was not able
to breathe properly.
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So I very
fervently prayed to the Lord.
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Lord, if I'm
dying forgive my sins
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and take me to
heaven otherwise if I live,
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I live to proclaim your gospel
in India and do Your work,
00:17:29.38\00:17:36.92
gospel
ministry, work as a pastor
00:17:36.95\00:17:39.59
and then evangelize
India, parts in India.
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Praise the Lord.
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So that's how the Lord led.
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I convinced that it was
Lord's hand behind His plan
00:17:46.13\00:17:50.93
that led me
through and then saved me
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from that terrible accident.
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So God saved you
miraculously when everyone else,
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you were the only one
who survived at those?
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I was the only one.
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That those that were pushed off.
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Now God opened the door for you
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to be able to go
again to college?
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You went to Spicer?
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Yes, I went to
school and resigned my job
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and planned to go to Spicer
and then I was sent to Spicer
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and studied M.A.
theology from Andrews Extension
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at Spicer Memorial College.
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Having completed
that I came back to field
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and joined as a
pastor and started working
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moving from one
place to the other.
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So at last I
came to a place called
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a coastal town called Chirala.
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So there I found--
again the Lord intervening
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and doing His
purpose in my life.
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So now that
you've become a pastor
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and because you promised
the Lord you would evangelize.
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You still had a soft spot
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in your heart
though for the orphans.
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By all means.
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And so tell us how you
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actually became
involved with Stone's Valley.
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I was there in Chirala and
then that was a famous place
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for robbers and criminals.
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There are criminal
villages all around
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and I found many
children as we went around,
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I and my wife and my daughter
as we went around the huts
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and the slum areas we
found children on the streets.
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I remembered my
childhood and my heart was drawn
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towards them and I
was touched terribly
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by that situation and
understood their situation
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and then the Lord led me
to do something about them.
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So I-- we gathered
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some children there, children
whose father's died of AIDS
00:19:58.96\00:20:04.50
and accident or
addiction or police encounter.
00:20:04.53\00:20:10.01
So they were
left on the streets.
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So we went and
handpicked them, gathered them,
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put them in school with
faith, stepped out in faith
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that the Lord
would take care of them.
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So the Lord led me
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through a friend
a colporteur friend
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by name Mr. Judson Rao and
introduced me to Mr. Roger.
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Okay, so Roger Stone
the Stone Valley Foundation.
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Roger, when you
first met Pastor Elisha
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what did he say to you?
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He just introduced himself
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and it was a
couple of weeks later
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that he gave me a
phone call and said sir,
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I have about 35 children
here that live on the street.
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They only get something to
eat every second or third day.
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He said, do you
have enough money
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so we could give these
children one meal a day?
00:21:05.69\00:21:09.86
And I was short on money then.
00:21:09.90\00:21:12.60
I said, well, this
sounds like something
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that God would want us to do.
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You organize it
and get it going.
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So he called me back
two days later and he says,
00:21:19.31\00:21:21.21
I've got everything organized
but I don't have 35 children.
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I have 50 children. He
says, I can't get any less.
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And I said, well, if
God can give us the money
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to feed 35 children
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He can give us the
money to feed 50 children.
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Amen.
00:21:34.39\00:21:35.72
So that's how it started.
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And then he called me one
day a short time later and said,
00:21:37.56\00:21:41.10
you know, if you
could pay for some uniforms
00:21:41.13\00:21:44.33
and school fees and books
we could bring these children
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all to the Adventist school
00:21:48.34\00:21:50.74
which was getting ready to close
00:21:50.77\00:21:52.37
because of lack of children,
00:21:52.41\00:21:55.14
lack of children
paying school fees.
00:21:55.18\00:21:57.61
So I had to furnish
school fees, plus uniforms,
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books and the school
is going real strong today
00:22:02.28\00:22:05.19
which we are very thankful for.
00:22:05.22\00:22:06.55
Praise God.
00:22:06.59\00:22:07.92
Now how did you start
Stone's Valley Foundation?
00:22:07.96\00:22:09.82
Let's talk-- how did you get
00:22:09.86\00:22:11.89
interested in the work in India?
00:22:11.93\00:22:15.86
Well, originally in 1999 I
went to India with Amazing Facts
00:22:15.90\00:22:20.54
and held a series of
meetings South of Chennai
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and started a little church
00:22:23.54\00:22:24.87
which is still
going very strong.
00:22:24.91\00:22:26.24
They bought land a
build a new church.
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And it's a
blessing when I go there.
00:22:28.38\00:22:31.21
Okay, probably with that
series of evangelist meetings
00:22:31.25\00:22:34.62
I said Lord, please
send me back to India
00:22:34.65\00:22:37.22
and let me do this again.
00:22:37.25\00:22:38.82
And I didn't hear a
voice but I knew assuredly
00:22:38.85\00:22:41.46
as if I had heard a voice
00:22:41.49\00:22:43.26
that I was told
you are coming back.
00:22:43.29\00:22:45.86
And took me few
months to get back
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and I took my wife back with me.
00:22:47.33\00:22:48.66
By now its was 2000
and I was asked to go up
00:22:48.70\00:22:53.07
to the state of Andhra Pradesh
where 30 non-Adventist pastors
00:22:53.10\00:22:57.84
had asked Doug
Batchelor to send a teacher.
00:22:57.87\00:23:00.48
And so I fulfilled
that, filled that spot
00:23:00.51\00:23:04.35
and held classes
for these 30 men.
00:23:04.38\00:23:07.38
They are all
baptized as Adventists.
00:23:07.42\00:23:09.95
It took me two years to
hold evangelistic meetings
00:23:09.98\00:23:12.55
in everybody's church
00:23:12.59\00:23:14.16
and turn the whole
church into an Adventist church.
00:23:14.19\00:23:17.09
Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
00:23:17.13\00:23:18.96
So Stone's Valley, you've
got what now, 81 churches?
00:23:18.99\00:23:22.40
I've started 81 churches,
00:23:22.43\00:23:24.77
56 are in the
close area where I live.
00:23:24.80\00:23:27.70
A lot of in a range of mountains
00:23:27.74\00:23:30.51
that are controlled
by communist terrorists
00:23:30.54\00:23:33.41
and it used to be
very, very dangerous
00:23:33.44\00:23:35.14
to go in there
but I would pray about
00:23:35.18\00:23:37.91
when I felt
impressed and then I would go
00:23:37.95\00:23:40.65
even though I had a hard time
00:23:40.68\00:23:42.02
sometimes getting a
translator to go with me.
00:23:42.05\00:23:44.32
I had the full
assurance God would protect me
00:23:44.35\00:23:46.69
and He did and now the communist
00:23:46.72\00:23:49.56
become our friends and
kind of our protectors.
00:23:49.59\00:23:52.03
When we will come back we
will get some more stories
00:23:52.06\00:23:54.13
that we would like you to share
just a moment if we have time.
00:23:54.16\00:23:57.27
But Roger and his wife Barbara
00:23:57.30\00:23:59.10
are doing an
amazing work in India
00:23:59.13\00:24:01.40
and it's just so
exciting to see that no matter,
00:24:01.44\00:24:07.28
you know, in
Psalms it talks about that
00:24:07.31\00:24:11.05
as we grow older
that we can still be
00:24:11.08\00:24:14.22
a walking memorial
to the grace of God
00:24:14.25\00:24:16.58
and that we can
still be blooming
00:24:16.62\00:24:20.49
with fervent for the Lord
and that's what you are doing.
00:24:20.52\00:24:27.50
All right, I just
want to come back here
00:24:27.53\00:24:30.13
because we have in you
Elisha a child who is--
00:24:30.17\00:24:37.51
whose mother is unable
to care for her, for him,
00:24:38.84\00:24:42.18
she had to
actually just leave you
00:24:42.21\00:24:44.71
and one of your
siblings on the streets
00:24:44.75\00:24:47.08
because your father was
dead and must have been,
00:24:47.12\00:24:49.45
you know, we think
about this poor mothers
00:24:49.48\00:24:51.85
how difficult that
must be for a mother.
00:24:51.89\00:24:54.62
Now on the streets
for seven years just--
00:24:54.66\00:24:58.19
and you were kind
00:24:58.23\00:24:59.56
of what they call an
untouchable, weren't you?
00:24:59.59\00:25:02.43
Yes.
00:25:02.46\00:25:03.80
You were someone
that was looked down upon.
00:25:03.83\00:25:06.13
Yeah.
00:25:06.17\00:25:07.50
You were someone who had
no motherly love or affection.
00:25:07.54\00:25:12.11
Yeah.
00:25:12.14\00:25:13.48
And then you hear the
music, you go into a church
00:25:13.51\00:25:18.51
and this pastor comes and seeks
you out to put you in school.
00:25:18.55\00:25:22.72
So you go from school
to college to get a degree
00:25:22.75\00:25:25.92
an education and then earn.
00:25:25.95\00:25:28.12
After the train accident you
go back for degree in theology.
00:25:28.16\00:25:32.59
What is God doing? Now,
you started the orphanage.
00:25:32.63\00:25:36.23
I think you got what 90 now?
About 90 kids in the orphanage.
00:25:36.26\00:25:40.37
Kids, yeah.
00:25:40.40\00:25:41.74
Yeah. What is He doing though?
00:25:41.77\00:25:44.47
How are you fulfilling
your promise to the Lord
00:25:44.51\00:25:47.94
that if you lived
after that train accident
00:25:47.98\00:25:50.68
that you were going to
speak to all the world.
00:25:50.71\00:25:56.15
I'm very strongly convinced
00:25:56.18\00:25:58.29
that its not by
accident or by chance
00:25:58.32\00:26:00.92
but its by God's
plan and God's hand behind
00:26:00.96\00:26:04.86
that He led me
through all these experiences
00:26:04.89\00:26:07.56
otherwise I would have
died like a dog on the street.
00:26:07.60\00:26:11.30
It is Jesus
Christ who pick me up
00:26:11.33\00:26:15.14
and then using me in all this.
00:26:15.17\00:26:17.14
So that
conviction keep me going.
00:26:17.17\00:26:20.78
So the Holy Spirit moves, moved
upon my heart very strongly
00:26:20.81\00:26:26.48
and reminded me
about my covenant
00:26:26.51\00:26:29.52
and my promise
with the Lord telling me
00:26:29.55\00:26:34.99
that heavenly Father is
a father of Indian people
00:26:35.02\00:26:40.16
and the Lord died for them.
00:26:40.20\00:26:43.26
And 87 percent of
Indians are Hindus.
00:26:43.30\00:26:47.87
Eighty seven percent?
00:26:47.90\00:26:49.24
Percent and 10
percent of Muslims.
00:26:49.27\00:26:51.94
And Sikhs and
Buddhist are one percent
00:26:51.97\00:26:53.78
and all Christian put
together are hardly two percent.
00:26:53.81\00:26:57.85
So a land filled with casteism
and so many other barriers
00:26:57.88\00:27:04.75
and millions of Gods
and Goddesses and idols
00:27:04.79\00:27:09.09
and ignorance, superstition
I see darkness coverning
00:27:09.12\00:27:14.03
the whole continent
and the Lord is giving me
00:27:14.06\00:27:19.77
the passion and commitment
00:27:19.80\00:27:21.30
to put out the gospel
of the Lord Jesus Christ
00:27:21.34\00:27:24.97
to these people and the Lord
is coming and time is short.
00:27:25.01\00:27:30.18
So I'm using every opportunity
and praying very fervently
00:27:30.21\00:27:35.75
that God would
open someway to put out
00:27:35.78\00:27:38.85
especially the end time message
00:27:38.89\00:27:40.49
the three angels
message to India.
00:27:40.52\00:27:43.39
1.27 billion people
00:27:43.43\00:27:46.26
and the second most
populous country in the world.
00:27:46.29\00:27:49.26
Yes. Now the Lord
did open the door.
00:27:49.30\00:27:52.53
Did open.
00:27:52.57\00:27:53.90
Tell us about the
charismatic televisions network.
00:27:53.94\00:28:01.21
I was praying about it
without any penny in my hand
00:28:01.24\00:28:06.65
with sheer faith in the Lord
00:28:06.68\00:28:08.65
that He would
intervene and then do this work.
00:28:08.68\00:28:12.35
I was solely depend
upon the Lord Jesus Christ.
00:28:12.39\00:28:15.76
I was day and night I
was whispering this desire
00:28:15.79\00:28:21.46
in His ears and the
Lord unexpectedly open
00:28:21.50\00:28:27.54
a way through Elder Roger.
00:28:27.57\00:28:32.64
When I see him I
don't know my father's love,
00:28:32.67\00:28:35.21
I don't have elder brother
00:28:35.24\00:28:37.08
and God gave that love of
a father and a elder brother
00:28:37.11\00:28:40.82
through him and
express my desire to him.
00:28:40.85\00:28:44.35
And he didn't
accept it immediately.
00:28:44.39\00:28:47.16
And what was your
desire specifically?
00:28:47.19\00:28:49.89
Specifically the time
is short the Lord is coming
00:28:49.92\00:28:55.63
so we have to proclaim
00:28:55.66\00:28:59.43
the ever
lasting gospel to India.
00:28:59.47\00:29:03.24
I told him that as I
was reading the Bible
00:29:03.27\00:29:06.61
after having prayed that
I came to Revelation 14:6
00:29:06.64\00:29:10.81
in which it says that,
00:29:10.85\00:29:12.65
there is angel flying
in the midst of the sky.
00:29:12.68\00:29:16.82
And I told him that angel
flying in the midst of the sky
00:29:16.85\00:29:20.36
should be satellite TV ministry.
00:29:20.39\00:29:25.49
So I told him that
door to door ministry
00:29:25.53\00:29:28.50
and church planting and
public ministry in India
00:29:28.53\00:29:34.17
won't yield much fruit
00:29:34.20\00:29:36.60
because Hindus they
have their own barriers,
00:29:36.64\00:29:39.91
Muslims they have their
own barriers around them.
00:29:39.94\00:29:42.68
They don't come to our meetings,
00:29:42.71\00:29:44.05
they don't come to our
church, they don't read Bible.
00:29:44.08\00:29:48.05
And then they treat as outcaste.
00:29:48.08\00:29:51.12
So there is no way to reach them
00:29:51.15\00:29:53.99
with the everlasting gospel.
00:29:54.02\00:29:55.36
So when you say the Hindus
treat Christians as outcaste?
00:29:55.39\00:29:58.99
Yeah, because it was Christians
who accepted the outcaste
00:29:59.03\00:30:03.83
that accepted the
Christianity in India.
00:30:03.87\00:30:06.33
Okay. Okay.
00:30:06.37\00:30:07.70
So they--
00:30:07.74\00:30:09.44
it is offensive
for them than we--
00:30:09.47\00:30:12.14
when the living preachers
go and then teach them.
00:30:12.17\00:30:14.54
So you approached Roger
about a television ministry
00:30:14.58\00:30:17.35
and after sometime you actually
00:30:17.38\00:30:19.05
began this television ministry.
00:30:19.08\00:30:20.55
Tell us about the
owner of the network there.
00:30:20.58\00:30:24.22
It was Goodnews Channel.
00:30:24.25\00:30:27.66
It's called in
Telugu Subhavaartha channel.
00:30:27.69\00:30:32.13
There used to me
one medical network,
00:30:32.16\00:30:34.33
only one Christian
network that was closed
00:30:34.36\00:30:38.90
for no reason but it
started all of a sudden in 2007.
00:30:38.93\00:30:43.27
So we got this idea in 2009
00:30:43.30\00:30:47.04
and it actually
materialized in 2010.
00:30:47.08\00:30:50.91
So we had able to
get into this net--
00:30:50.95\00:30:55.38
channel that's
covering 90 percent of Andhra
00:30:55.42\00:30:58.82
and Andhra Pradesh
00:30:58.85\00:31:00.19
that's a central
state and much of India
00:31:00.22\00:31:05.06
and its satellite TV
covering about 120 countries.
00:31:05.09\00:31:09.36
And in the beginning
they had a very hard time.
00:31:09.40\00:31:11.80
They were actually on the street
00:31:11.83\00:31:15.04
but later on God intervened
00:31:15.07\00:31:16.94
and then carried
on this satellite TV.
00:31:16.97\00:31:21.91
Virtually most of
the homes who have the TV
00:31:21.94\00:31:25.35
they watch this TV
in India, Christian TV,
00:31:25.38\00:31:29.05
only most popular
Christian TV in India.
00:31:29.08\00:31:32.25
There are others now recently
00:31:32.29\00:31:35.12
they are open
but they are not as--
00:31:35.16\00:31:37.39
Popular.
00:31:37.43\00:31:38.76
All right, so you are on
the most popular network,
00:31:38.79\00:31:40.90
how did the other pastors
because this is basically
00:31:40.93\00:31:46.90
Sunday keeping
network if you will.
00:31:46.94\00:31:48.84
All the pastors,
all the Protestants
00:31:48.87\00:31:51.04
that are Sunday
keepers how did they accept you
00:31:51.07\00:31:56.21
when you came out with a voice
00:31:56.24\00:31:58.71
talking about the Sabbath
the Seventh-day Adventist
00:31:58.75\00:32:01.08
and giving this
in time Revelation.
00:32:01.12\00:32:03.28
Yeah, in the beginning
it really offended them
00:32:03.32\00:32:07.12
about 10-15 of them
they came and protested
00:32:07.16\00:32:12.39
and then complained
to the channel director
00:32:12.43\00:32:16.20
that when Seventh-day Adventist
00:32:16.23\00:32:18.10
speak all these false
teachings about the law of God
00:32:18.13\00:32:21.24
and Sabbath and anti-Christ
and three angels message
00:32:21.27\00:32:26.78
and all so we will not
accept that, we will drop out.
00:32:26.81\00:32:30.11
So the director--
00:32:30.15\00:32:31.81
So they are
threatening the director
00:32:31.85\00:32:33.35
that they are gonna
cancel their programming,
00:32:33.38\00:32:35.65
their paid programming
00:32:35.68\00:32:37.45
if he leaves you on the network?
00:32:37.49\00:32:39.59
Yes. All right.
00:32:39.62\00:32:41.22
So he called us and then
told us about the problem
00:32:41.26\00:32:45.63
and then we told
him that you gather us
00:32:45.66\00:32:50.50
and then we will give-- we
will answer their questions
00:32:50.53\00:32:54.04
if they have any objection.
00:32:54.07\00:32:55.54
And then let us see
if this is Bible based
00:32:55.57\00:32:59.31
and then let them
accept if it is biblical.
00:32:59.34\00:33:02.18
So he called us and
then we had Bible study,
00:33:02.21\00:33:04.88
very serious Bible study
00:33:04.91\00:33:06.61
on the law of
God and the Sabbath.
00:33:06.65\00:33:08.85
At the end I was
thrilled when the director came
00:33:08.88\00:33:12.62
and hugged and then said,
Elisha, this is the truth,
00:33:12.65\00:33:16.36
we never knew this and you
have courage to proclaim this.
00:33:16.39\00:33:19.69
So you go ahead.
00:33:19.73\00:33:21.06
Though these people dropout
00:33:21.10\00:33:22.53
I think you need to
carry on this program
00:33:22.56\00:33:25.97
because we have
about 150 pastors on TV
00:33:26.00\00:33:29.20
they just tell
stories and then some topics
00:33:29.24\00:33:32.04
without head and tail and
some faith healing and all
00:33:32.07\00:33:34.81
but you are giving solid message
00:33:34.84\00:33:36.91
and we feel that
this is the message
00:33:36.95\00:33:39.55
that has to go to the
people before Jesus coming.
00:33:39.58\00:33:42.62
I felt like it
was the voice of God.
00:33:42.65\00:33:44.82
Oh, absolutely.
00:33:44.85\00:33:46.19
And that was
another miracle to think
00:33:46.22\00:33:49.56
that someone who
was of his background,
00:33:49.59\00:33:53.60
religious
background just through a study
00:33:53.63\00:33:57.73
even though I'm sure
it was an intense study
00:33:57.77\00:33:59.57
but that he could be convinced
immediately of the truth
00:33:59.60\00:34:03.57
and actually have
the boldness to say,
00:34:03.61\00:34:07.44
it has got to go forward.
00:34:07.48\00:34:09.18
This is a true message.
00:34:09.21\00:34:10.55
Even if the rest
of these-- I mean,
00:34:10.58\00:34:12.51
he was putting his
business in jeopardy actually
00:34:12.55\00:34:14.88
because the other people
were threatening to quit.
00:34:14.92\00:34:18.35
Yeah, I told
them and then demote
00:34:18.39\00:34:20.26
some of his misunderstandings.
00:34:20.29\00:34:23.83
I told him that
how this church came up
00:34:23.86\00:34:27.43
in the reformation
time and middle ages and all
00:34:27.46\00:34:32.13
and how God brought this
church out of mini churches.
00:34:32.17\00:34:38.51
Now we have about
3,000 churches in India
00:34:38.54\00:34:42.44
and according to
Christian encyclopedia
00:34:42.48\00:34:45.18
there are 9,000
churches in the world
00:34:45.21\00:34:47.68
and this is the only church
that is completely Bible based
00:34:47.72\00:34:53.69
and God brought it
out from Baptist church,
00:34:53.72\00:34:56.99
Methodist
church, Congregational,
00:34:57.03\00:34:58.46
Presbyterian in 1800s
00:34:58.49\00:35:01.63
and then gave the end time
final warning to this church.
00:35:01.66\00:35:08.47
Just like He gave
it Noah and Elijah,
00:35:08.50\00:35:12.27
John the Baptist,
Martin Luther, William Miller,
00:35:12.31\00:35:15.68
so He gave this church,
so this church needs to be
00:35:15.71\00:35:21.08
His end time witness for Him
00:35:21.12\00:35:24.99
proclaiming the final
warning message to India.
00:35:25.02\00:35:28.56
So the good news is I'm
just gonna cut to the chase here
00:35:28.59\00:35:32.86
is that the chairman of this
00:35:32.89\00:35:36.23
or president of
this network is now,
00:35:36.26\00:35:38.97
he has become a Sabbath keeper.
00:35:39.00\00:35:41.24
Oh, secretly.
00:35:41.27\00:35:42.87
He said, you go
ahead we will support.
00:35:42.90\00:35:44.94
You bring as many
Seventh-day Adventist
00:35:44.97\00:35:46.81
as possible and then put out
00:35:46.84\00:35:48.84
this three angels
message through our network.
00:35:48.88\00:35:51.45
Otherwise--
00:35:51.48\00:35:52.81
So what kind of
programs do you put on?
00:35:52.85\00:35:55.48
I give Bible study on Revelation
00:35:55.52\00:35:58.99
and three angels message and all
00:35:59.02\00:36:02.02
and then through and our
27 or 28 Adventist doctrines
00:36:02.06\00:36:08.40
we make these programs
with the help of pictures
00:36:08.43\00:36:13.57
and graphics so that even
the most illiterate people
00:36:13.60\00:36:17.04
in the villages in India--
00:36:17.07\00:36:18.64
around 72 percent
are illiterate in India
00:36:18.67\00:36:21.14
they can understand the
end time message to the people.
00:36:21.18\00:36:24.71
So when we preach through Hindi,
00:36:24.75\00:36:27.35
Telugu and English in these,
00:36:27.38\00:36:30.42
in this channel
we will have covered
00:36:30.45\00:36:33.15
this 1.27
billion people in India
00:36:33.19\00:36:38.19
with the everlasting gospel.
00:36:38.23\00:36:40.26
Yes.
00:36:40.30\00:36:41.63
But now this has had--
your teaching has got worsen
00:36:41.66\00:36:46.23
just trying to get you to
teach to people in their homes,
00:36:46.27\00:36:51.01
He actually opened the
door to attract the attention
00:36:51.04\00:36:55.41
of so many pastors now
that are Sunday keeping pastors
00:36:55.44\00:37:01.52
who want to know the
truth about Revelation.
00:37:01.55\00:37:04.65
Tell us what-- how
God has opened the door
00:37:04.69\00:37:07.06
for you to train them?
00:37:07.09\00:37:08.42
Yeah, by God's grace our program
00:37:08.46\00:37:10.93
is one of the top five programs,
00:37:10.96\00:37:14.00
program that has
most response and--
00:37:14.03\00:37:17.00
This is your TV program? Yeah.
00:37:17.03\00:37:18.80
Many pastors started enquiring
00:37:18.83\00:37:21.57
that we understand
all the books of the Bible
00:37:21.60\00:37:24.14
but we had been
praying that God would give us
00:37:24.17\00:37:27.71
some
understanding on this last book,
00:37:27.74\00:37:32.18
Revelation, Book of Revelation.
00:37:32.21\00:37:33.85
So here is a pastor who
teaches about Revelation.
00:37:33.88\00:37:38.15
So they invite us every
month about hundreds of them,
00:37:38.19\00:37:43.59
at least 60 to 70 non-Adventist
pastors every month,
00:37:43.63\00:37:48.23
a new group invite me to
teach them about Revelation
00:37:48.26\00:37:53.47
and three angels message
and all the end time message
00:37:53.50\00:37:57.14
in Revelation as a sort of
three angels message seminar
00:37:57.17\00:38:01.11
or Revelation seminar.
00:38:01.14\00:38:03.04
And you do this
on a monthly base?
00:38:03.08\00:38:05.15
Yeah, monthly base.
00:38:05.18\00:38:06.51
We have at least two groups
every month of these pastors.
00:38:06.55\00:38:11.52
We stay there from morning
nine to evening four-five
00:38:11.55\00:38:15.99
and then we study
the Bible together
00:38:16.02\00:38:18.53
and then many are
convinced about this.
00:38:18.56\00:38:21.53
If I preach I preach
to only 200-300 people
00:38:21.56\00:38:24.27
but if I educate these pastors
00:38:24.30\00:38:26.50
with the end time
message they will put it out
00:38:26.53\00:38:28.97
to millions of
other people in India.
00:38:29.00\00:38:31.31
Glory to God.
00:38:31.34\00:38:32.67
So I see God's hand behind.
00:38:32.71\00:38:35.74
Oh, absolutely. Are you kidding?
00:38:35.78\00:38:37.45
I mean, it's
like you are sending
00:38:37.48\00:38:39.55
all of these
Sunday keeping pastors
00:38:39.58\00:38:43.39
are now coming and
being trained and--
00:38:43.42\00:38:45.52
you know, if you
understand Revelation,
00:38:45.55\00:38:47.82
I understand that Daniel
00:38:47.86\00:38:49.19
unlocks
Revelation that's the key.
00:38:49.22\00:38:51.66
You can't help
begin to understand
00:38:51.69\00:38:54.66
the permanency
of the law of God.
00:38:54.70\00:38:57.40
You understand the sanctuary.
00:38:57.43\00:38:59.37
You just understand God's grace
better and what an opportunity.
00:38:59.40\00:39:04.94
I mean, that's as exciting to me
00:39:04.97\00:39:07.58
as it is that you
are on television,
00:39:07.61\00:39:09.68
is that you are teaching,
00:39:09.71\00:39:11.35
God's opened the doors
to train all these pastors.
00:39:11.38\00:39:15.58
Yeah.
00:39:15.62\00:39:16.95
Though they get
angry in the beginning
00:39:16.99\00:39:18.59
and get agitated when we touch
00:39:18.62\00:39:20.69
about the law of
God and the Sabbath
00:39:20.72\00:39:22.12
but later on when they
actually see in the Bible,
00:39:22.16\00:39:25.26
we see the Holy
Spirit giving them
00:39:25.29\00:39:28.26
the conviction of the truth.
00:39:28.30\00:39:30.47
They accept and then we ask
00:39:30.50\00:39:32.53
the local Adventist
conferences and union
00:39:32.57\00:39:36.10
to accommodate them to
take care of our churches.
00:39:36.14\00:39:40.34
That is amazing.
00:39:40.38\00:39:42.68
I think this is-- you know,
00:39:42.71\00:39:45.15
could you ever have imagined,
the stupid tried question,
00:39:45.18\00:39:51.25
there is no way where
you could have imagined
00:39:51.29\00:39:53.36
as a
seven-year-old child on street
00:39:53.39\00:39:56.42
that you are going to
come to know the true God
00:39:56.46\00:39:59.93
who loved you, the true God
00:39:59.96\00:40:02.33
who would give you the
fathering you never had,
00:40:02.36\00:40:05.40
the love you never
had, who would lead you
00:40:05.43\00:40:09.24
and preserve your
life from the many times
00:40:09.27\00:40:14.18
that you could have been killed
00:40:14.21\00:40:15.91
on the street or in
this train accident,
00:40:15.94\00:40:18.58
take you to
school not for one degree
00:40:18.61\00:40:21.12
but for two and
then have you preaching
00:40:21.15\00:40:24.29
into hundreds of
thousands of homes
00:40:24.32\00:40:28.42
and teaching
non-Adventist pastors.
00:40:28.46\00:40:32.39
I mean, that's amazing to me.
00:40:32.43\00:40:36.03
That's giving me the
highest joy to do this.
00:40:36.06\00:40:39.50
I have no other aim in
my life, beside in my life
00:40:39.53\00:40:42.97
than to tell about Jesus
Christ who risked eternity
00:40:43.00\00:40:47.61
and everything
to save even Indians
00:40:47.64\00:40:51.28
or all the people in the world
00:40:51.31\00:40:53.98
to save them from sin
and death and give them
00:40:54.02\00:40:56.15
great future, eternal life.
00:40:56.18\00:40:58.45
So that passion keeps me
00:40:58.49\00:41:00.46
going to give out
this gospel to them
00:41:00.49\00:41:04.49
because many of
the Hindus in India
00:41:04.53\00:41:07.53
they accept Jesus
as one of the Gods.
00:41:07.56\00:41:10.43
They don't believe
that the blood of Jesus
00:41:10.47\00:41:14.40
cleanses them from sin
and saves them and in heaven.
00:41:14.44\00:41:18.67
So I have--
00:41:18.71\00:41:22.71
I preach to
millions of people in India
00:41:22.74\00:41:26.61
through TV that Jesus
is not one of the gods
00:41:26.65\00:41:30.59
but and He is the
one and the only God
00:41:30.62\00:41:32.65
and His blood
cleanses us from sin
00:41:32.69\00:41:36.02
and his atoning
sacrifice saves us from sin.
00:41:36.06\00:41:39.13
And then Sabbath is going to be
00:41:39.16\00:41:40.93
the end time test
to receive God's seal
00:41:40.96\00:41:44.53
and be saved into His kingdom.
00:41:44.57\00:41:47.00
Amen. Amen.
00:41:47.04\00:41:48.67
Well, I just
thank, it is amazing.
00:41:48.70\00:41:50.54
Now tell us the--
00:41:50.57\00:41:52.67
you still running the orphanage,
00:41:52.71\00:41:54.04
you have about 90
children what are your needs?
00:41:54.08\00:41:57.28
What is going in the future?
00:41:57.31\00:41:59.21
Right now we don't
have our orphanage building
00:41:59.25\00:42:04.49
to care for these kids.
00:42:04.52\00:42:08.36
They come and then eat
and study and then go back--
00:42:08.39\00:42:13.09
To the streets.
00:42:13.13\00:42:14.46
Some of them we
don't know where they stay,
00:42:14.50\00:42:16.36
they stay with
one of their parents,
00:42:16.40\00:42:19.10
some with some
neighbors and all.
00:42:19.13\00:42:20.94
So we are very
afraid about some girls
00:42:20.97\00:42:23.54
who stay with other people.
00:42:23.57\00:42:25.51
That so--
00:42:25.54\00:42:27.21
that's our one of the greatest
need to have a orphanage
00:42:27.24\00:42:30.71
and a Bible training center
00:42:30.75\00:42:32.95
so that we can invite all
these non-Adventist pastors
00:42:32.98\00:42:36.89
and then train them
and then send them out.
00:42:36.92\00:42:40.32
And then Andhra--
00:42:40.36\00:42:41.69
this Hyderabad
is a central state
00:42:41.72\00:42:43.83
connecting North
India, South India.
00:42:43.86\00:42:45.56
Whatever happens there
00:42:45.59\00:42:46.93
the ripples are felt everywhere.
00:42:46.96\00:42:48.40
So if we have a
Bible training center
00:42:48.43\00:42:51.63
and then train up
as many as possible
00:42:51.67\00:42:54.90
they will meet our
need in the mission
00:42:54.94\00:42:56.44
at the same time
we can send them out
00:42:56.47\00:42:58.81
as missionaries throughout India
00:42:58.84\00:43:00.38
Amen. Amen.
00:43:00.41\00:43:01.74
And Roger, that is one
of the problems, isn't it?
00:43:01.78\00:43:03.51
You started these 81 churches
00:43:03.55\00:43:06.38
but keep Adventist pastors
or you got Adventist pastors
00:43:06.41\00:43:10.69
on staff that finding enough
pastors to get the message out.
00:43:10.72\00:43:14.62
Yes. Yeah.
00:43:14.66\00:43:16.36
One thing I'd like to interject
we figured it out last year
00:43:16.39\00:43:19.49
that the TV
station did a survey,
00:43:19.53\00:43:21.90
we are getting into
twelve and half homes
00:43:21.93\00:43:24.60
for every penny we spend
in India sponsor of course.
00:43:24.63\00:43:28.80
For every penny if
sponsorship on this,
00:43:28.84\00:43:32.44
twelve and half
homes, that's amazing.
00:43:32.47\00:43:34.64
That's a real burden.
00:43:34.68\00:43:36.88
Well, I want you before--
we only got a couple of minutes
00:43:36.91\00:43:39.88
but I want you to share a
story that you shared with me
00:43:39.91\00:43:43.45
when we were at Eden
Valley about the communist and--
00:43:43.49\00:43:47.96
let's talk about the monkeys
for just a couple of minutes.
00:43:47.99\00:43:50.43
Tell us that story.
00:43:50.46\00:43:51.93
Okay, it took us four years
00:43:51.96\00:43:53.29
to get the gospel
into this one village.
00:43:53.33\00:43:56.10
A lot of hard work,
I've got a good pastor there.
00:43:56.13\00:43:58.87
We got a group then
Baptized after a while.
00:43:58.90\00:44:02.50
There hadn't
been Baptized too long
00:44:02.54\00:44:04.84
when one day on
Friday afternoon we heard,
00:44:04.87\00:44:06.98
they heard the
monkeys were coming.
00:44:07.01\00:44:09.04
Now these aren't
some cute little things.
00:44:09.08\00:44:10.41
These are big
monkeys, there are fears
00:44:10.45\00:44:13.92
if you have something
they want they will attack you
00:44:13.95\00:44:16.12
and they will take it
away from you, bite, scratch,
00:44:16.15\00:44:18.29
whatever and you--
they come into some fields
00:44:18.32\00:44:22.16
where they are growing
crops they will destroy them
00:44:22.19\00:44:24.59
just like children
tearing up something.
00:44:24.63\00:44:27.13
And so you have to be out there
00:44:27.16\00:44:28.50
with clubs to
fight them, all right.
00:44:28.53\00:44:31.13
So we hear on Friday afternoon
that the monkeys are coming.
00:44:31.17\00:44:35.80
Okay, the Hindus
start getting things,
00:44:35.84\00:44:37.21
right they say,
okay, now you Adventist
00:44:37.24\00:44:38.57
you better not be
taken off tomorrow,
00:44:38.61\00:44:39.97
you better be
here fighting monkeys.
00:44:40.01\00:44:42.34
And so the
Adventist had their usual
00:44:42.38\00:44:44.31
Friday night meeting
and they thought about it.
00:44:44.35\00:44:46.01
I remember these are
new Adventist and they say,
00:44:46.05\00:44:48.38
now what would God wants to do?
00:44:48.42\00:44:49.75
Are we supposed to go out
00:44:49.78\00:44:51.12
and protect our
fields on Sabbath
00:44:51.15\00:44:52.49
or should we come to
church and let God protect them?
00:44:52.52\00:44:55.96
And they talked about it.
00:44:55.99\00:44:57.63
They knew that as Hindus
before they became Adventist
00:44:57.66\00:45:00.76
the Hindu God's
didn't protect them any,
00:45:00.80\00:45:02.36
now is the Christian
God gonna protect us.
00:45:02.40\00:45:04.43
After praying hard
and long Friday night
00:45:04.47\00:45:06.84
then he said we are
gonna trust it to God.
00:45:06.87\00:45:09.00
Okay, the next morning
00:45:09.04\00:45:10.37
the Hindus are up
getting their big sticks ready
00:45:10.41\00:45:12.27
and everything
and they found out
00:45:12.31\00:45:13.71
the Adventist
are going to church.
00:45:13.74\00:45:15.68
Oh, you Adventists, next winter
00:45:15.71\00:45:17.65
when you are out of
food don't come and ask us
00:45:17.68\00:45:19.48
because we are
not gonna help you.
00:45:19.51\00:45:21.25
Well, the Adventist
took their food to church,
00:45:21.28\00:45:24.69
they spent the day
together fellowshipping,
00:45:24.72\00:45:26.45
strengthening each other
00:45:26.49\00:45:27.82
hoping they had
made the right decision.
00:45:27.86\00:45:30.29
And remember they
are very new Adventist
00:45:30.33\00:45:32.13
and this here's the
church to where they go to now.
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Okay.
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Well, toward the evening
one big ran back out the fields
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that he just couldn't
wait to see what happened.
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And he came back
to the church and said
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not one Adventist
field has been touched.
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The whole church went
out, there was sun down by now
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and they met the
other people coming in,
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their hair hanging
down, their clothes torn,
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butt bitten and everything else.
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They had saved their fields
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most of them
but not all of them.
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The Adventist got out there,
00:45:58.65\00:45:59.99
no Adventist
field had been touched,
00:46:00.02\00:46:01.76
no Adventist
home had been touched.
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So God kept His protective.
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God kept the protection.
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And over them, that is
such a precious for them.
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Now we have a
very nice church there
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and a nice congregation.
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That is wonderful story.
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And if we had
time we would tell you
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this is a communist
nation that actually,
00:46:15.74\00:46:19.97
the communist
leaders are now studying
00:46:20.01\00:46:22.91
and learning about the
Lord and have prevented other,
00:46:22.94\00:46:27.42
they are keeping
other Christian groups out
00:46:27.45\00:46:30.19
saying this is an
Adventist village.
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So it's amazing.
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Well, we are just--
we are gonna come back
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in just a moment
for a closing word
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but we have such an
incredible wonderful time
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listening to your story
and it was a great story
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for what God has done.
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But we do have
another song for you
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so we want to get that
song in with Wintley Phipps
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and then we are gonna come
back for some closing words.
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Wintley is going to sing
for us now, "He Hideth My Soul."
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A wonderful
Savior is Jesus my Lord
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A wonderful Savior to me
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He hideth my soul in
the cleft of the rock
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Where rivers of pleasure I see
00:48:00.51\00:48:06.82
He hideth my soul in
the cleft of the rock
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That shadows a dry, thirsty land
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He hideth my life in
the depths of His love
00:48:26.10\00:48:34.08
And covers me
there with His hand
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And covers me
there with His hand
00:48:43.35\00:48:51.09
A wonderful
Savior is Jesus my Lord
00:48:56.06\00:49:03.97
He taketh my burden away
00:49:05.17\00:49:12.78
He holdeth me up
and I shall not be moved
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He giveth me strength as my day
00:49:20.89\00:49:26.83
He hideth my soul in
the cleft of the rock
00:49:29.36\00:49:37.34
That shadows a dry, thirsty land
00:49:38.27\00:49:44.01
He hideth my life in
the depths of His love
00:49:46.92\00:49:54.82
And covers me
there with His hand
00:49:54.86\00:50:01.66
And covers me
there with His hand
00:50:03.30\00:50:10.51
When clothed in His
brightness transported I rise
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To meet Him in clouds of the sky
00:50:37.60\00:50:43.27
His perfect
salvation, His wonderful love
00:50:49.74\00:50:57.69
I'll shout with
the millions on high
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He hideth my soul in
the cleft of the rock
00:51:06.49\00:51:14.47
That shadows a dry, thirsty land
00:51:15.50\00:51:22.04
He hideth my life in
the depths of His love
00:51:24.35\00:51:32.15
And covers me
there with His hand
00:51:32.19\00:51:39.39
And covers me there
00:51:40.46\00:51:44.97
He covers me there
00:51:51.31\00:51:56.75
with His hand
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With His hand
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