I want to spend my life
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Spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my whole life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my whole life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and
welcome to 3ABN today.
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My name is C.A. Murray
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and allow me once
again to thank you
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for sharing just a
little of your day with us
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and to thank you for
all you do to help us
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lift up the mighty and
matchless name of Jesus.
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I'm very, very excited
today and I always get excited
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when I have guests who
are from New York City,
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having spent 30 years there.
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Um, so, this
program is a program
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that comes out of as
part of the legacy of NY13
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that we talked
about uh, just time ago.
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And the continuing ministry
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that is going on
in New York City,
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when the brethren came in
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and did that
heavy duty evangelism,
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it was done so with the idea
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that will not going to
just blow in, blow up, blow out.
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We're going to
stay there for a while,
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plant the flag
of Christ as it were
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and do continuing kinds
of things that will expose
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different
people to Jesus Christ.
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So this is part of that
and we're going to talk about
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some things that are
happening even to this day
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which may serve as
a model for something
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you may want to do.
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You may hear
something to stay there,
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you want to
replicate in your own town.
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I've got two good
looking young people.
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I'll call them young
because they are younger than me
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and good looking
because they are.
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Uh, first of all, Ivan Raj,
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Ivan, good to
have you here, man.
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Thank you.
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And good looking, young
guy on far for the Lord.
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Amen. And Heidi Tompkins.
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Heidi, nice to
have you here. Hi.
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Nice meeting you,
C.A. Thanks for having us.
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Yeah, you can see the joy
of the Lord in Heidi's face.
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She's been smiling
since she got here.
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You know, I think
her face is going to hurt
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when she leaves here
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because she's been
in this constant smile
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for the past several days
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and she's got the love
of Christ in her heart.
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Now, there are not
married, they are not dating.
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They are just
serving the Lord together.
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Get that out of
the way right now.
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Okay. All done, taken care of.
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Now, was your parents
that came with you also?
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Yes, they did.
And did some cooking?
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We did the cooking.
You did the cooking?
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They came to support
and they were big help.
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We could have done
all this without them.
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Excellent, excellent, excellent.
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Uh, we're going to talk
about Heidi's Health Kitchen.
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We're going to get to
Heidi's Health Kitchen.
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Got a long route to
travel before we get there
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but that's the punch
line to the ministry.
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Heidi's Health Kitchen,
that's where we are going,
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I think the
journey that will be fun
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and I think you'll enjoy
this program very, very much.
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I want to talk to you
before we go to our music
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and get a little
background on two of you guys
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because I know
you're from Connecticut.
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Yes. Thank you.
Yeah, Connecticut.
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You know, close
enough to New York
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to be part of New York.
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You grew in
Adventist home, Heidi
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Yes, I did. I
had that privilege.
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Praise God. Praise the Lord.
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Yes, I, in my teenage
was little bit rebellious
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unfortunately went
into a different way
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but God brought me back
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and it's just been
such a blessing serving God
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and having that
experience with Jesus
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that we all need to have.
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So many of us have
those wilderness years.
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Yes. Yeah, yeah.
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Brothers and sisters?
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Yes, an older sister,
who lives in Long island.
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She's a lawyer.
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Two younger brothers
who live in Connecticut.
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Oh, wow, big family.
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And my younger brother,
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my youngest brother, Scott
is involved in our ministry.
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He handles our website
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and helps us with a lot
of technical things remotely.
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Praise the Lord.
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Yeah, it is one thing Heidi,
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as you know to grow
up in an Adventist home
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and growing up
in an Adventist home
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or even attending
an Adventist Church
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may make you an Adventist
does not make you a Christian.
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That's right.
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When did this whole Christ thing
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become real for you
on a personal level?
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I would say probably
between 2003 and 2004.
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Um, I really, I had been
very successful in business
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and um, you know,
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achieved many
things, had many things,
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had all the money
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I could ever want to
buy whatever I needed.
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And those things didn't satisfy.
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When I came to that realization,
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when I came to
the end of my self,
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like the Bible says
about the prodigal son,
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I realized that there was
something missing in my life
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and then as I looked over
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my childhood and
all these things,
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I realized that
what was missing Was God.
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And I immediately straight
away that week made sure
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I'd found a Seventh Day
Adventist Church near me
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which at that time
happened to be on--
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in Patchogue Long Island.
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And I went through a little
bit of struggle just briefly,
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Um, I thought you know,
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I'll go to church and you know,
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still hadn't
stopped all of my habits.
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Like worldly habits.
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And you know, Friday
was a big happier type day
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and got up late Saturday morning
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and thought, I'll go to church
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but by the time I got
ready, it was like 12 or 12:30.
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I'm like, "Oh,
it's going to be over.
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I'll go next week.
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And this next week thing
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happened for about
three or four weeks
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and the last week I said,
"All right, that's enough."
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I know myself.
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"If I don't go
today, I'll never go,
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I don't care if this
singing the last line
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of the closing song,
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if I-- when I walk in
that door, at least I went
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and next week I'll
get there earlier."
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And I did and praise God.
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Patchogue actually has
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a Spanish service in the morning
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and the English
service in the afternoon.
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So when I walked in at 12:15,
they were just getting started.
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They are just getting started.
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And my relationship with
the Lord grew from there.
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I felt my need for the Lord.
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When you had your
sort of wandering years,
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wasn't it aggressive,
turning against the Lord
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or just kind of wandering
away, just kind of just apathy?
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Just wandering away,
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you know, worldly successes came
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and I went with it.
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Praise the Lord.
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What kind of business
were you involved in when you--
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Sales, all my
life sales retail sales
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as well as outside
sales in telecommunications.
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Oh, praise the Lord.
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That actually is good practice
for what you're doing now.
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Yes, it certainly is.
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The Lord notices
this kind of background
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and then he takes
what you're having
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and uses it to
what He wants you to do.
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It's funny, Ivan and I
talk about it all the time
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even what we are doing now
with Heidi's Health Kitchen,
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we praise God for
the career experiences
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and the life
experiences God has given us
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because we see it all
being used now for God's glory.
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Praise God.
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Praise the Lord, praise
God. That is so exciting.
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Raj, do you want to talk
us about, let me call you Ivan
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uh, I like Ivan better.
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Um, Adventist home growing up?
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Uh, no, we were born as Lutheran
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I mean, we were
raised as Lutheran Christians
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and then we became Pentecost
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and then we've gone
into Jehovah's Witness
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and then we found the
truth in 92 in India of course,
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I was in India that time
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through an evangelistic series
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and then we became
Seventh Day Adventist in 1992.
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Wow, Lutherans in India,
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one does not put
Lutheran together with India.
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You know, you don't think
Lutheran wouldn't think India.
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Pentecostal
perhaps, Jehovah Witness,
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may be, but not Lutheran.
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So your family was, it
seems like they were searching.
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Yes, absolutely, that's true.
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That's why we ended up in
Seventh Day Adventist Church
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because we found the truth here.
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Yeah.
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How did Adventistism come to you
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or you come to Adventistism?
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Um.
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Your family now,
I'm talking about.
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Yes, um, I was 12 at the time
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and they had a series of
meeting called um, what is it?
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I forgot.
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Um, there was a series
of evangelistic meetings
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in the city called Chennai
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and that's where I
was born and raised.
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And it's called Mission Madras.
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And Chennai used to be
called as Madras those days
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and Pastor Dwight
Nelson, he came there
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and he did some
evangelistic series
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and my mom went
there to see my uncle
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who actually organized
the meetings in Chennai.
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And so she sat out and
then she started taking notes.
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Because we thought okay,
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they are also Christians,
we are also Christians
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so let's see
what they have to say.
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And then she noticed that all
our questions were answered uh-
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Praise the Lord.
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On a daily basis
through his sermons
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and then at the end of
the series we got baptized.
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Was it your baptism at
the end of that series?
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Yes, and I was the
youngest to get baptized.
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Is that so?
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Yeah, my grandfather who
was staunch Lutheran also,
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he got baptized at the time.
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He was 76 when he got baptized
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through
Seventh-day Adventistism.
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Does being a Christian in India,
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with the
constellation of religions
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and the predominant one
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is kind of tough on
Christians in India?
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Yes, it was.
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It uh, few years back
it was a little relaxed
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I think but now
it's now again coming up.
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It's kind of tough
to practice your faith
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or talk about your
faith to other people,
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certain areas specifically--
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Yes, yes, did your whole family
come to the States or just you?
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Uh, just me and my brother,
younger brother, Martin Raj.
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He is studying in a
college, Heartland College.
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He is studying to
become a medical missionary.
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So my parents passed away
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so it's just me
and my brother, yeah.
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So, you think,
you guys were how old
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when you decided
to come to States?
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I came here three years back.
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Was it-- did your family
had somebody to meet you here
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or you just had a took off?
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No, I just took off.
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I just came here
for business opportunity
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which never worked out.
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Like I was looking for
some business opportunities
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that didn't work
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and it just
didn't work out for me
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and God led me into
Heidi's Health Kitchen.
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Okay, praise the Lord.
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We're going to talk a
little bit more about that.
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This story has got
a little back ground.
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Um, one coming over form India,
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one in Connecticut
coming down to New York.
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We got to find out how
they got fused together.
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How Heidi's Health
Kitchen got started
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and I really like that
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Heidi's Health
Kitchen it's not an end,
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it's really a means
to go to another end
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and I like that because it's,
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you are using
what's in your hand
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to do something for the Lord.
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And then God is blessing.
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So we're going to
talk all about that
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um, just after music,
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which today comes
from a great friend,
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personal friend and
friend of the ministry,
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Jennifer LaMounatin.
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She's going to be
singing "Make Me Like You."
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Amen.
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Teach me Father
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What to say
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Teach me Father
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How to pray
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Teach me all
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Along the way
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How to be
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Like Jesus
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Teach me
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How we may be one
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Like the Father
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And the Son
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And when all
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Is overcome
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I will be
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Like Jesus
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Lord, make me like you
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Please make me like you
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You are a servant
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Make me one too
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Oh, Lord I am willing
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To what you must do
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To make me like you Lord
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Make me like you
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I would be
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Like Jesus
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I would be
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Like Jesus
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Help me Lord
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To daily grow
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More and more
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Like Jesus.
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Well done, Jennifer LaMounatin.
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"I would be like Jesus"
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what a beautiful
song and beautifully sung.
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My guests are Ivan
Raj and Heidi Tompkins
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lord-and-lady,
good to have you here.
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When we left, um...
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we were talking little
bit about your background.
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Yes.
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I want to find out
how you got together,
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how you got to New York
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and how Heidi's Kitchen
actually got from there.
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I think I'll start
with you Heidi on this.
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You were asked to
be part of uh, NY13?
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Yes. How did that happen?
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God, by His providence
and miracles led me the NETS,
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The Northeast
Evangelism Training School.
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That's Eric Flickinger
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Yes, and Kevin Sears
And Kevin Sears, yeah.
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Yes, and the very
first training class for NETS
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was in New York City.
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And so it was a
great opportunity
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and I didn't
really wanted to go,
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there was a
little bit of a struggle
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but God made a way.
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God pushed me to go
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and when I got there I
was so happy that he did.
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It just turned out to be
an incredible blessing for me.
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Now for those who
don't know, Heidi, tell us
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what NETS is and
what it seeks to do.
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What is it trying-- Sure.
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Northeast
Evangelism Training school
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is a four-month training program
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that teaches
anyone who's interested
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how to do Bible
work, evangelistic work,
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medical missionary
work on the surface level
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and teaches the health message,
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the evangelism
message and the gospel.
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And it's really an amazing
and incredible experience.
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Each class gets
to do the prep work
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for an evangelistic series
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and so my class,
we did the prep work
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for the New York 13 series
that you mentioned earlier.
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So it kind of threw you in a
deep end right out of school.
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Yeah, it was great though.
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It was a great experience.
How big was your class?
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How many young
people-- We are 12 of us.
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Okay, nice size.
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Yes. Nice size.
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So that' how you got
connected with the meetings?
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Walk us through the meeting time
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and then what
happened subsequent to that.
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Sure, so I worked very closely
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with Mark & Tini Finley
mostly in the data room,
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handling all that type of stuff
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but I've got to
enjoy the meetings as well
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and throughout that
time, we had Bible students
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each of us is NETS
students had Bible students
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and we are bringing our
Bible students to the series
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and it was very exciting.
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At the same time,
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the International
Field School was going on
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and Ted Wilson and Mark Finley
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graciously
extended an invitation
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to the next student so
we had a very busy schedule.
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But it was a great experience
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and perhaps because I was local
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and because of
some other factors
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they were looking
for a student to stay by
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and do a six-month follow up
period of full time Bible work
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and they asked me to do so.
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I accepted and so
because the response
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of Revelation of
Hope was so significant,
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they were so many
contexts to follow up with.
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Not one person could
ever do it on their own
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so I decided to
train church members
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and I held to
eight-week training courses.
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The class is called Disciples.
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It's basically
like a little mini NETS.
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And taught the church members
how to go to door to door,
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how to give Bible studies
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and how to really
get involved in this work
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and Ivan was one
of the church members
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that was recommended
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by the Personal Ministries
director at that church
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at the West 11th Street Church.
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So he was in the
first disciples' class.
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Okay, all right.
We put a pause there.
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We go to Ivan. Yes.
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My understanding is
that you came a little
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what's the word I can use?
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Kicking and
screaming, dare I say.
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this was not a
natural segway in your life.
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So walk us
through that experience
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of first getting into the NETS
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and then we'll
move on from there.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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Um, so yeah, so
one day at church,
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lunch time,
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my, one of my
close friends in church,
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uh, he just gave my name.
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He referred my name to Heidi,
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when she came
asking for some names.
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And I was sitting beside him,
we were having lunch together
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and then he had said,
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"Okay, Heidi, take
Ivan Raj, Ivan Raj's name"
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and then I asked him,
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what's, "Why did you
give my name to her?"
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He said, "Ivan,
they're going to have
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a leadership training
program in the church,
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I think you have a potential
so I've referred your name."
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So I was thinking in my mind
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that I should
not go to this class
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because I've
been working six days
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and I'm exhausted, tired.
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After lunch I go back
home and get some rest,
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get ready for work
next day, Sunday, that is.
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And so again he said,
"Okay," like he understood
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that I was not
that much interested
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to attend this class
which Heidi is going to have
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and then he said, "Okay,
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if you don't want
to go, that's fine."
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Yeah, I don't want to go.
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I was telling
myself, I should not go.
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I just, I just go home
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and after sometime
another elder came and he said,
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"Ivan, can you help me
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arrange the chairs and
tables in the next room?"
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And I said "After my dessert.
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"So...
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So you take pot
luck pretty seriously.
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I missed the dessert part.
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I missed the dessert part, yeah.
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So, and then I said, "Okay."
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Everybody left and
then I had my dessert
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and I went to the
next room and noticed that
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all the tables and
chairs were already arranged.
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So I was thinking, I
gave him a commitment,
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I'll do something there
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but already, I
mean so let me get in,
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uh, get into the room
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and then take a
chair and a table
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and put it, put it around
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and then arrange
it and then leave.
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Then you're gone. Yeah. Yeah.
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So I walked into the room
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and I heard a voice
from my back side saying,
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"Ivan is present."
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And I turned around
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and then Heidi was
there beside the door.
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And I didn't not
know she was inside,
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I was like, "Oh, my goodness."
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I didn't know she was inside.
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Had I known that, I would
not have come into the room.
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I would have gone home.
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The Lord hide
little things from you
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'cause you got so much to do.
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Did you know who he was
at least before this time?
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His friend Ricardo,
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the Personal
Ministries director just said,
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"That's Ivan sitting over there.
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That's all I knew. I
knew what he looked like.
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So now obviously, you
know, you've been kind of
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I don't want to say
Shanghaied into something
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but you've gotten, someone
has gotten you into something
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that you weren't
really prepared for.
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No, not at all.
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So this was kind of a
whole new experience for you.
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Absolutely, when you experience
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and I thought, I
was telling myself,
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I was sitting in the first,
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okay, so after I noticed that
she said, "Ivan is present."
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I was still telling myself,
00:20:11.67\00:20:13.01
Ivan, I think you need
to go out and go back home.
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On the other
hand I was thinking,
00:20:15.38\00:20:16.71
what will happen to
Ricardo's reputation?
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Like he gave, he
referred me to her.
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So that'll get
tarnished as well.
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I didn't want that to happen.
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So I thought okay,
I'll just take part
00:20:22.78\00:20:24.55
in this one
class and then leave.
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I will not show my
face to her again. Okay.
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So I just sit in the class
and then she gave her testimony
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to all of the other, all of us.
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And then it was very
clear to me and evident
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that God wanted me to come back
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to the class again
and again and understand
00:20:36.50\00:20:39.13
and you know, the
importance of going door to door
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uh, to give
Bible studies as well.
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So I started coming back
every single class later on.
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Heidi's class, that is.
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And then at the
end of the class,
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I also started
going door to door.
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Oh, bless your
heart. Praise God.
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Now your testimony was
your time with the Lord,
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your NETS' time or
your time working with NY13?
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All of that, all of that.
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How I came back to the Lord,
how the Lord brought me back,
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how the Lord,
00:21:04.06\00:21:05.39
by His great providence
and miracles got me to NETS,
00:21:05.43\00:21:08.70
it's an amazing story,
00:21:08.73\00:21:10.07
I'll have to
tell you another time.
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I didn't even know
where it was going.
00:21:11.47\00:21:12.80
Someone said,
"You got to come here
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right now in Manhattan.
00:21:14.20\00:21:15.54
Here's the address." I
don't know where I'm going.
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I don't know what this
is. I'm like, "who does this?"
00:21:17.41\00:21:19.24
But then I'm
thinking about Abraham
00:21:19.27\00:21:20.61
and all these people, right.
00:21:20.64\00:21:22.14
So I'm like, "What is this?"
00:21:22.18\00:21:23.61
I wasn't feeling good that day,
00:21:23.65\00:21:24.98
I'm thinking,
I'm going to go home,
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juice, rest, lay low
00:21:26.38\00:21:28.38
and literally as I
was driving home that day
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um, I get down the
street towards my house
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and all the roads are closed.
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There is a police barricade.
00:21:36.52\00:21:37.86
The only way you
can go is turn a left
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into Park Avenue and Babylon
00:21:39.66\00:21:41.00
which goes right
by the train station.
00:21:41.03\00:21:42.53
And I thought, okay, Lord,
00:21:42.56\00:21:43.90
apparently you
want me to go somewhere.
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So I went and it
was a greatest blessing.
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Praise the Lord. Praise God.
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Of course, you were talking,
from Manhattan to Babylon,
00:21:49.64\00:21:52.91
you are talking, first of
all there's only two ways to go
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I know, Long Island past way,
00:21:55.61\00:21:57.31
you can go and fits
down, you can go Bell parkway,
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Southern State
Parkway go that way.
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But all of them,
00:22:02.58\00:22:03.92
choked with
traffic most of the day.
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So, you're talking, a
timing that went into, yeah.
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I ended up taking
Long Island railway road
00:22:07.86\00:22:09.19
but it's still an hour and--
00:22:09.22\00:22:10.56
Oh, you took a train.
00:22:10.59\00:22:11.93
Yes. Okay, but it still.
00:22:11.96\00:22:13.46
Still I went 20
minute riding this way.
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Precisely, yeah, so you don't--
00:22:14.86\00:22:16.46
That's just the Penn station
00:22:16.50\00:22:17.83
and then the
subway and everything.
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It's almost a two-hour
commute each day, everyday.
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That is work so--
Which I did for four months.
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Bless your heart.
But it was a blessing.
00:22:23.87\00:22:25.24
Oh, God, turned it
into such a blessing.
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Praise the Lord.
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So you met, you stayed,
00:22:29.41\00:22:31.71
you continued to
work through the meetings
00:22:31.75\00:22:35.08
and tell me just a
little bit about your experience
00:22:35.12\00:22:38.15
during the meetings.
00:22:38.19\00:22:39.52
'Cause we've had a lot
of people from NY13 here.
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Uh, not that many
from the Bible work end
00:22:42.42\00:22:44.46
but give me just
a little flavor of
00:22:44.49\00:22:45.93
you know, how the Lord blessed
00:22:45.96\00:22:47.30
and what you felt
during those meetings.
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Sure. It was a
very busy time for us.
00:22:48.70\00:22:50.37
We were still in
class so we had class
00:22:50.40\00:22:52.47
you know five days a week,
00:22:52.50\00:22:53.84
we were doing the
series on the weekends
00:22:53.87\00:22:56.30
and we didn't have any days off
00:22:56.34\00:22:57.74
but God gave the
energy and the strength
00:22:57.77\00:23:00.04
that we needed, we were
still going door to door,
00:23:00.08\00:23:01.94
we were still
doing Bible studies
00:23:01.98\00:23:03.55
and it was just such
an incredible experience.
00:23:03.58\00:23:07.62
Ted Wilson did a
great job doing the series,
00:23:07.65\00:23:10.99
Mark was there to
support him all the way.
00:23:11.02\00:23:13.69
I spend most of my time
in the data room with Tini
00:23:13.72\00:23:17.03
but was able to still
bring some of my Bible students
00:23:17.06\00:23:19.66
and have some of my contacts
come and they were blessed
00:23:19.69\00:23:23.13
and the baptisms all
throughout the meetings--
00:23:23.16\00:23:25.90
Praise God. Were just amazing.
00:23:25.93\00:23:28.67
Ivan, what impressed
you about those meetings?
00:23:28.70\00:23:30.04
They were held in your church.
00:23:30.07\00:23:31.41
I know your church was
prepped for those meetings
00:23:31.44\00:23:33.71
because Aldo
Wilson's is going to be there
00:23:33.74\00:23:35.31
and a lot of people were
coming in, moving through
00:23:35.34\00:23:37.81
but as the member of the church,
00:23:37.85\00:23:39.38
how are you impressed
with what was going on?
00:23:39.41\00:23:41.15
I was also a volunteer.
00:23:41.18\00:23:42.98
I was actually ushering
00:23:43.02\00:23:44.35
and I was part of
the whole ushering team
00:23:44.39\00:23:47.12
for those meetings.
00:23:47.16\00:23:48.49
And I also brought
one of my Hindu friends
00:23:48.52\00:23:50.39
as well for the meetings.
00:23:50.43\00:23:53.16
So it was
definitely a blessing to me
00:23:53.19\00:23:54.73
and I'm sure it was a blessing,
the guy, he came to the church,
00:23:54.76\00:23:57.00
he said, "I definitely
feel some peace here."
00:23:57.03\00:24:00.50
Praise the Lord.
Praise God. Yeah.
00:24:00.54\00:24:02.34
So the meetings as we
know were comprehensive
00:24:02.37\00:24:05.97
and a number of
things are happening.
00:24:06.01\00:24:07.94
Your church saw it as
on of the- kind of centers
00:24:07.98\00:24:10.98
or focuses of this thing.
00:24:11.01\00:24:13.21
Your, the Bible
work team was just the 12
00:24:13.25\00:24:16.79
that came out of NETS or
are they other individuals-
00:24:16.82\00:24:18.75
Yeah, just us. Just the 12.
00:24:18.79\00:24:20.12
Yes.
00:24:20.16\00:24:21.76
I'm curious as the
person who's done evangelism,
00:24:21.79\00:24:23.69
how many, how big were
your list is my question.
00:24:23.73\00:24:28.43
The follow up afterwards?
00:24:28.46\00:24:29.86
No, during the course, you know,
00:24:29.90\00:24:31.23
you getting your names of
your working, your names, yeah.
00:24:31.27\00:24:33.44
Sure, yeah, well, so we had
00:24:33.47\00:24:34.80
our regular
Bible studies going on.
00:24:34.84\00:24:36.37
Each of us probably
had between 8 and 12
00:24:36.40\00:24:39.37
personal Bible studies going on
00:24:39.41\00:24:41.14
and in addition we were
getting names given to us,
00:24:41.18\00:24:43.41
go follow up on this person
00:24:43.45\00:24:44.78
and write that
person and so forth.
00:24:44.81\00:24:46.82
Uh, you know, after,
00:24:46.85\00:24:48.18
if came a few nights,
then we didn't see them.
00:24:48.22\00:24:50.02
We immediately had to
go knocking at the door.
00:24:50.05\00:24:52.12
So I mean,
literally it was constant.
00:24:52.15\00:24:54.06
We didn't have a
day or a minute off.
00:24:54.09\00:24:56.56
That's what I
want to establish here.
00:24:56.59\00:24:57.93
Once evangelism starts,
you kind of jump on your horse
00:24:57.96\00:25:00.26
and we do not get off
till after the last baptism
00:25:00.30\00:25:03.47
and then your transitioned
it because you don't stop.
00:25:03.50\00:25:06.00
So if you got names those
names has to be revisited,
00:25:06.03\00:25:08.27
if some body drops
out, they have to be seen.
00:25:08.30\00:25:10.34
If a new person comes,
00:25:10.37\00:25:11.71
they have to be
encouraged you know,
00:25:11.74\00:25:13.54
you've got active names,
00:25:13.58\00:25:15.08
passive names and
you kind of on off
00:25:15.11\00:25:16.81
and you got to deal
with all of that stuff.
00:25:16.85\00:25:18.71
So that is, that's no
stroll through the park.
00:25:18.75\00:25:22.02
Yeah, it's hard work.
00:25:22.05\00:25:23.39
Yeah, but did you enjoy it?
00:25:23.42\00:25:24.82
I loved it and God
gave us all the strength
00:25:24.85\00:25:27.12
and especially
me with the commute.
00:25:27.16\00:25:29.96
It was difficult
00:25:29.99\00:25:31.66
and but I learned
to sleep on the train
00:25:31.69\00:25:33.33
and God gave me
the rest I needed.
00:25:33.36\00:25:36.06
Praise the Lord.
00:25:36.10\00:25:37.43
You got a lot of New Yorkers
who learnt to sleep on a train.
00:25:37.47\00:25:39.63
Somehow they woke
up at the right stop
00:25:39.67\00:25:41.24
and Lord kind of
blesses that too.
00:25:41.27\00:25:42.97
Let me just ask you this
00:25:43.00\00:25:44.34
and it's kind
of early left turn.
00:25:44.37\00:25:46.41
Give me, because I see the joy
in your face and in your voice,
00:25:46.44\00:25:50.91
the feeling to see somebody,
let me put it this way,
00:25:50.95\00:25:54.98
to see the light
come on in their life.
00:25:55.02\00:25:57.15
You know, they
are drinking this,
00:25:57.19\00:25:58.52
walking and doing
whatever and all of a sudden
00:25:58.55\00:25:59.89
they get it.
00:25:59.92\00:26:01.26
You know, tell me
about how that feels.
00:26:01.29\00:26:02.82
The joy is so incredible.
00:26:02.86\00:26:04.26
It's overwhelming. It is.
00:26:04.29\00:26:05.63
To me, it is overwhelming
because it's just so amazing
00:26:05.66\00:26:08.33
I mean, separate from this,
00:26:08.36\00:26:10.33
I mean, I'm
still doing Bible work
00:26:10.37\00:26:12.37
and I'm studying with
the woman in Long Island now.
00:26:12.40\00:26:15.20
Um, God through
out Bible studies,
00:26:15.24\00:26:17.44
we're only on the--
00:26:17.47\00:26:19.67
I think, next
week when I get home
00:26:19.71\00:26:21.04
we're doing the
seventh Bible study
00:26:21.08\00:26:22.41
and God is already delivered
her from six addictions.
00:26:22.44\00:26:25.91
And just you know,
00:26:25.95\00:26:27.62
when someone decides to
give their hearts for Lord,
00:26:27.65\00:26:30.09
and work for Him,
00:26:30.12\00:26:31.95
everyday just
becomes so exciting
00:26:31.99\00:26:33.96
to see what
God's going to do next.
00:26:33.99\00:26:35.39
Very true.
00:26:35.42\00:26:36.76
And people might
not understand this
00:26:36.79\00:26:38.36
but it's just so joyful,
00:26:38.39\00:26:40.10
it's, it gives me the
energy and strength that I need
00:26:40.13\00:26:43.37
and just to see
what God is doing,
00:26:43.40\00:26:45.80
it's just so amazing.
00:26:45.83\00:26:47.17
Yeah, it' amazing
and it's addictive.
00:26:47.20\00:26:50.21
Yes, it is.
00:26:50.24\00:26:51.94
Once you get, you wanted
to get in, it's like a high.
00:26:51.97\00:26:54.28
Wanting some more
and that kind of thing.
00:26:54.31\00:26:55.64
To see someone, to see
the, to make that turn,
00:26:55.68\00:26:58.71
and you can see that there
are coming closer to the Lord
00:26:58.75\00:27:00.75
and they see the Lord
begin to work in their lives,
00:27:00.78\00:27:02.75
then you see other people,
00:27:02.78\00:27:04.19
I want that for them,
I don't want it for them,
00:27:04.22\00:27:05.55
I want that for them and
I know that kind of thing.
00:27:05.59\00:27:06.92
And the Holy Spirit
works in such a way,
00:27:06.96\00:27:08.56
where you begin to see
them as Christ sees them
00:27:08.59\00:27:11.26
and you see the
potential and the possibility
00:27:11.29\00:27:13.73
and you see this transformation
00:27:13.76\00:27:15.53
from the
caterpillar to the butterfly
00:27:15.56\00:27:17.23
right before your eyes.
00:27:17.27\00:27:18.73
And it's like
creation all over again.
00:27:18.77\00:27:20.40
It's amazing.
00:27:20.44\00:27:21.77
Ivan, do you feel the same way?
00:27:21.80\00:27:23.14
Absolutely, I feel the same way.
00:27:23.17\00:27:24.51
Yeah, praise God.
00:27:24.54\00:27:25.87
We got Ivan out of his
bed uh, on Sabbath afternoons
00:27:25.91\00:27:30.75
and the Lord got him--
and the Lord got him on Friday
00:27:30.78\00:27:33.21
and both of you were sleepy
but the Lord gives you energy
00:27:33.25\00:27:35.42
when you are doing
these kinds of things.
00:27:35.45\00:27:37.29
So the meetings end and we
know about the big fan fare
00:27:37.32\00:27:41.56
we were there,
our 3ABN was there
00:27:41.59\00:27:43.32
Jim Gilley and I were
there for the big baptism,
00:27:43.36\00:27:45.09
I mean just, just
an incredible high day.
00:27:45.13\00:27:47.86
Uh, are you were there?
00:27:47.90\00:27:49.23
Were you in Long
Island at the coliseum?
00:27:49.26\00:27:50.60
No I was not at the coliseum.
00:27:50.63\00:27:52.57
You were at the coliseum.
Okay, you were at the coliseum.
00:27:52.60\00:27:54.10
Just an incredible high day.
00:27:54.14\00:27:55.47
The meetings
cannot go on for ever.
00:27:55.50\00:27:56.84
They come to an
end. Now what do we do?
00:27:56.87\00:28:00.14
So now follow up
00:28:00.18\00:28:01.58
and that's where the
church member training came in.
00:28:01.61\00:28:04.41
In Ivan's class,
in the first class,
00:28:04.45\00:28:06.61
there were uh, 18 church members
00:28:06.65\00:28:09.32
and you know, my training was,
00:28:09.35\00:28:10.85
okay, start with the small group
00:28:10.89\00:28:12.35
and you know, some of the people
00:28:12.39\00:28:13.72
in the church thought, you know,
00:28:13.76\00:28:15.09
no one is going to come to this.
00:28:15.12\00:28:16.46
But 18 people signed
up for the first class
00:28:16.49\00:28:18.36
and I didn't want
to say no to anybody
00:28:18.39\00:28:19.73
because if they are interested,
we got to get them going now.
00:28:19.76\00:28:22.43
We can't wait and let
that interest die out.
00:28:22.46\00:28:24.33
So the first class
had a 18 church members,
00:28:24.37\00:28:26.67
the second class had 23
00:28:26.70\00:28:29.44
and so a lot of church members
at the West 11th Street Church,
00:28:29.47\00:28:32.47
um, got to take
part in the Bible works,
00:28:32.51\00:28:34.74
some of them who were
more active than the others,
00:28:34.78\00:28:36.68
one of the things that
I really, really respected
00:28:36.71\00:28:39.05
about Ivan at
that time, was that,
00:28:39.08\00:28:41.55
in our first class
00:28:41.58\00:28:43.39
and out of both
of them actually,
00:28:43.42\00:28:45.25
he was the most
interested in evangelism.
00:28:45.29\00:28:48.42
Every Sabbath, at potluck,
00:28:48.46\00:28:50.26
Ivan was coming
to me and saying,
00:28:50.29\00:28:51.86
"Oh, I have this idea. We
can do this, we can do this.
00:28:51.89\00:28:54.26
I'm in a mean up group and
all of this people you know
00:28:54.30\00:28:57.10
or are open and you know,
00:28:57.13\00:28:59.30
we can maybe
show cosmic conflict
00:28:59.33\00:29:01.67
or some type of DVDs
00:29:01.70\00:29:03.20
that'll engage
them in a discussion."
00:29:03.24\00:29:05.11
And every week he came
to me with all these ideas
00:29:05.14\00:29:07.34
and it was just so exciting.
00:29:07.38\00:29:09.04
So he really
had that initiative.
00:29:09.08\00:29:10.65
Praise the Lord, Ivan,
let's explore this a little bit.
00:29:10.68\00:29:12.51
Sure.
00:29:12.55\00:29:13.88
Because you came
in kind of reluctant.
00:29:13.92\00:29:15.95
I would say, you
finished your dessert
00:29:15.98\00:29:17.32
and you get the dessert,
00:29:17.35\00:29:18.95
I'm teasing about this.
00:29:18.99\00:29:20.32
But you have
finished your dessert
00:29:20.36\00:29:21.69
and you got
hijacked into this thing.
00:29:21.72\00:29:24.03
Where did the change
come? When did it click for you?
00:29:24.06\00:29:27.13
You know, you said, you came,
00:29:27.16\00:29:28.50
"I'm going to come one time
and I'm done, I'm out of here."
00:29:28.53\00:29:31.13
But something happened, man.
00:29:31.17\00:29:32.83
Walk me through that experience?
00:29:32.87\00:29:34.20
Uh, it was Heidi's testimony.
00:29:34.24\00:29:38.04
She shared her
personal testimony to all of us
00:29:38.07\00:29:40.34
and that made me,
00:29:40.38\00:29:41.94
that was, I was impressed
that God wants me to be here
00:29:41.98\00:29:45.25
and also in the hear meeting
in this class every single week
00:29:45.28\00:29:48.28
and also start going
door to door as well.
00:29:48.32\00:29:50.79
And which is what I did
00:29:50.82\00:29:52.29
after the end of
the training program.
00:29:52.32\00:29:53.79
Prior to the whole um, NY13,
00:29:53.82\00:29:57.29
were you kind of a
couch potato Adventist
00:29:57.33\00:29:59.13
or you're kind of Adventist,
an active Adventist already?
00:29:59.16\00:30:01.96
I was an active Adventist.
00:30:02.00\00:30:03.70
When I say active Adventist,
okay, let me put it this way.
00:30:03.73\00:30:06.40
After, I would, I
must say that I met God
00:30:06.43\00:30:09.90
or I had a, I started having
a personal experience with God,
00:30:09.94\00:30:12.97
after I came to New York City.
00:30:13.01\00:30:14.88
Before that, I was like you said
00:30:14.91\00:30:16.44
couch potato Adventist probably.
00:30:16.48\00:30:18.21
But I got the real experience
00:30:18.25\00:30:21.05
and I went
through a lot of issues,
00:30:21.12\00:30:23.52
a lot of struggles and issues
and everything, complications.
00:30:23.55\00:30:26.76
But I noticed God's hand
was there throughout the ordeal.
00:30:26.79\00:30:31.66
And I had to surrender
00:30:31.69\00:30:33.13
and I loved to
surrender myself to God.
00:30:33.16\00:30:35.46
It became a habit to me
and it got into my system
00:30:35.50\00:30:38.37
and you know like
you said addiction.
00:30:38.40\00:30:40.54
I think you'll love it.
00:30:40.57\00:30:41.90
You just fall in love with God
00:30:41.94\00:30:43.27
and then you don't know
like you don't want to go
00:30:43.30\00:30:44.64
out of it after that.
00:30:44.67\00:30:46.01
It's a relationship.
It's a special experience.
00:30:46.04\00:30:48.54
You can never
get it anywhere else.
00:30:48.58\00:30:50.31
So I was getting into
that experience at that time
00:30:50.35\00:30:53.38
before the NY13 and everything.
00:30:53.42\00:30:55.18
Okay, so this is just
another part of the journey,
00:30:55.22\00:30:57.79
another step along the road
00:30:57.82\00:30:59.15
that you are
already traveling on.
00:30:59.19\00:31:00.52
Yes, yes.
00:31:00.56\00:31:01.89
That's gonna say
something you want to do.
00:31:01.92\00:31:03.26
Yes, and I wanted to
get business and everything
00:31:03.29\00:31:04.63
but everything failed.
00:31:04.66\00:31:05.99
All my efforts were
failing, failing, failing.
00:31:06.03\00:31:07.96
Which is what led
me into, you know,
00:31:08.00\00:31:09.96
issues and complications
and everything, so--
00:31:10.00\00:31:13.57
So this was kind of a an answer
to a prayer either unanswered
00:31:13.60\00:31:17.41
or uh, but God was
kind of moving in your half
00:31:17.44\00:31:20.48
and in your direction.
00:31:20.51\00:31:22.01
Okay, so you got
this, the meetings end
00:31:22.04\00:31:25.25
but you still got work to do.
00:31:25.28\00:31:26.68
Yes, so for meetings end,
00:31:26.72\00:31:29.32
I do, we do the six
months of follow up,
00:31:29.35\00:31:31.82
myself and the church members.
00:31:31.85\00:31:33.39
Uh, the six
months come to an end
00:31:33.42\00:31:35.89
and at that point, you know,
my contract comes to an end.
00:31:35.92\00:31:39.59
Um, I'm not
getting paid anymore.
00:31:39.63\00:31:41.76
But I still have Bible students.
00:31:41.80\00:31:43.13
I can't leave them hanging.
00:31:43.16\00:31:44.50
So I continued the
Bible work for free
00:31:44.53\00:31:46.23
which I'm still
doing to this day.
00:31:46.27\00:31:47.60
Bless your heart.
00:31:47.64\00:31:48.97
Praise God. Wow. Wow.
00:31:49.00\00:31:50.34
But God has been my
sustainer and my provider.
00:31:50.37\00:31:52.77
Even through the difficulties
that I've been through,
00:31:52.81\00:31:55.54
you know, was not having income
and these types of things.
00:31:55.58\00:31:58.38
God has been my provider.
00:31:58.41\00:31:59.81
God has been my husband,
00:31:59.85\00:32:01.35
I mean, the
relationship with God
00:32:01.38\00:32:03.12
just gets better
and better every day.
00:32:03.15\00:32:05.42
Deeper faith, stronger
trust. Praise the Lord.
00:32:05.45\00:32:07.69
Fearlessness that will happen.
00:32:07.72\00:32:09.12
It is, that's where I'm heading
00:32:09.16\00:32:10.49
because you see I know what
it's like to get on the subway,
00:32:10.53\00:32:14.23
you and 10,000 of
your closest friends.
00:32:14.26\00:32:16.67
You are going back and forth.
00:32:16.70\00:32:18.70
You are going back
and forth, you are moving,
00:32:18.73\00:32:20.34
and sometimes
you out a little late
00:32:20.37\00:32:21.70
and you want to reach.
00:32:21.74\00:32:23.07
You got a person that is, who
wants to know about the Lord.
00:32:23.10\00:32:24.57
And it's 6 o'clock and
you don't stop at the clock
00:32:24.61\00:32:27.04
because this
person has a question.
00:32:27.08\00:32:28.64
So you got to stay with him.
00:32:28.68\00:32:30.01
So you maybe
there till 8 o'clock
00:32:30.05\00:32:31.55
or now I got to go home
00:32:31.58\00:32:32.91
and go all the way
back out to Babylon.
00:32:32.95\00:32:34.68
And you know, we could
make Babylon jokes all day long.
00:32:34.72\00:32:38.99
We're coming out of Babylon
00:32:39.02\00:32:40.36
you know, we could
do that all day long.
00:32:40.39\00:32:41.72
So and you, you are
going in your pocket.
00:32:41.76\00:32:45.83
The conference isn't paying you.
00:32:45.86\00:32:47.20
Correct. Correct. The
church isn't paying you.
00:32:47.23\00:32:49.26
You've got other
people like Ivan and others
00:32:49.30\00:32:51.40
who are doing
stuff on their own.
00:32:51.43\00:32:53.87
We got to fund this thing
man we got to find some money
00:32:53.90\00:32:56.71
'cause you cannot go
on forever like this.
00:32:56.74\00:32:59.77
So walk me through that time
00:32:59.81\00:33:01.91
because this is the
birth of Heidi's Kitchen.
00:33:01.94\00:33:03.65
Yes, correct.
00:33:03.68\00:33:05.25
And so last
year between probably
00:33:05.28\00:33:08.62
you know,
between March and April,
00:33:08.65\00:33:09.98
I really, really
started praying to the Lord
00:33:10.02\00:33:12.89
because the
work is never ending.
00:33:12.92\00:33:14.82
This work needs to be done
00:33:14.86\00:33:16.89
and to see so many people
receptive in New York City,
00:33:16.93\00:33:21.26
going door to door as
just a four-question survey.
00:33:21.30\00:33:25.13
Just who knows
those people's mind.
00:33:25.17\00:33:26.94
They think New
York City is impossible.
00:33:26.97\00:33:28.74
Oh, people, they won't
be interested you know.
00:33:28.77\00:33:30.64
But they are.
00:33:30.67\00:33:32.37
There are people searching
for hope and for peace.
00:33:32.41\00:33:35.78
And they find it when
they study God's word.
00:33:35.81\00:33:37.85
And so I was praying, asking God
00:33:37.88\00:33:41.52
to show me a way that
this can support myself,
00:33:41.55\00:33:45.45
not just me, but
other Bible workers
00:33:45.49\00:33:47.59
because where there is one
of me, there should be ten.
00:33:47.62\00:33:50.26
And I want to say this because
having worked in New York City,
00:33:50.29\00:33:53.09
and you guys know now.
00:33:53.13\00:33:55.16
People mistake
bigness for coldness.
00:33:55.20\00:33:57.70
Because it's a big town,
00:33:57.73\00:33:59.77
Well, there can't
be any Jesus here.
00:33:59.80\00:34:01.27
There's a lot of Jesus there.
00:34:01.30\00:34:02.70
And there are a lot of
people looking for Jesus.
00:34:02.74\00:34:04.51
It's just you got to go to them.
00:34:04.54\00:34:06.74
They are not coming to you
00:34:06.78\00:34:08.11
because the
town is just too big.
00:34:08.14\00:34:09.48
We got 60 plus
Adventist churches there
00:34:09.51\00:34:11.55
and we are still invisible
00:34:11.58\00:34:12.91
because you got a pool
of eight men in the metro
00:34:12.95\00:34:15.32
and 12 men in the bigger area,
00:34:15.35\00:34:18.29
so people are there.
00:34:18.32\00:34:19.65
But somebody's got
to go knock on doors
00:34:19.69\00:34:21.62
and go into those
apartment buildings.
00:34:21.66\00:34:22.99
I had a member,
it's at 27 storeys,
00:34:23.02\00:34:25.39
five different buildings,
11 apartments on each.
00:34:25.43\00:34:28.66
You know you got 3000
apartments in one building
00:34:28.70\00:34:31.93
and you got to get in
there and take Jesus with you.
00:34:31.97\00:34:34.17
Yes. Amen.
00:34:34.20\00:34:35.54
So there's this
investing of time,
00:34:35.57\00:34:37.84
so we got to have some cash
00:34:37.87\00:34:39.31
because we got to have some cash
00:34:39.34\00:34:41.44
You know, we got
to fund this thing.
00:34:41.48\00:34:43.11
So walk me through now
00:34:43.14\00:34:44.48
just a little bit how
Heidi's Kitchen start.
00:34:44.51\00:34:45.88
Sure, and so knowing that
00:34:45.91\00:34:47.48
the spirit of
prophesy clearly defines
00:34:47.52\00:34:49.38
that this is how the
work is going to finish.
00:34:49.42\00:34:51.15
Bible workers
going door to door,
00:34:51.19\00:34:52.72
medical
missionaries going door to door
00:34:52.75\00:34:54.72
uh, I was praying
about this as I said
00:34:54.76\00:34:57.19
and Ivan actually came to me
00:34:57.23\00:34:59.09
because he had a
been volunteering
00:34:59.13\00:35:01.96
at an Adventist restaurant
up in Maine for a few months.
00:35:02.00\00:35:05.20
He had just taken a
break and gone up there
00:35:05.23\00:35:07.84
and had this great
experience and he came back
00:35:07.87\00:35:10.67
and he was in this
squandering his life,
00:35:10.71\00:35:13.84
"do I stay here,
do I go to India.
00:35:13.88\00:35:15.78
I want to start a ministry.
00:35:15.81\00:35:17.41
I've been looking for
the right ministry partner,
00:35:17.45\00:35:19.11
haven't found the right
person and what do I do?"
00:35:19.15\00:35:21.98
Okay, but yeah,
what's up with Maine?
00:35:22.02\00:35:25.09
You know, what are
you doing in Maine?
00:35:25.12\00:35:26.45
Yeah, I was staying
at an Adventist family
00:35:26.49\00:35:31.46
with the Adventist family,
they were very nice people.
00:35:31.49\00:35:33.23
The Farlays are
beautiful people Adventists
00:35:33.26\00:35:35.53
and from there I
wanted to go back to India.
00:35:35.56\00:35:37.93
I had all my luggage
with me, I thought okay,
00:35:37.97\00:35:39.93
the last two years,
I spent here you know,
00:35:39.97\00:35:42.17
my time in New
York, nothing worked out.
00:35:42.20\00:35:43.54
There was no providence.
00:35:43.57\00:35:44.91
Okay, so things
are not jelling for you
00:35:44.94\00:35:46.57
so I'm going back home.
00:35:46.61\00:35:47.94
So I'm going back home.
00:35:47.98\00:35:49.31
So I did get an
opportunity as well in India.
00:35:49.34\00:35:51.25
Two opportunities:
one in North India
00:35:51.28\00:35:53.15
and one in South India as well.
00:35:53.18\00:35:54.62
So I wanted to
get back to India.
00:35:54.65\00:35:56.55
But that opening,
that offer, the job offer
00:35:56.58\00:35:59.89
kept postponing as well.
00:35:59.92\00:36:01.89
And in the mean while,
00:36:01.92\00:36:03.32
I kept praying, fasting,
fasting and praying at lot.
00:36:03.36\00:36:06.86
I mean, a lot of
prayer went into it.
00:36:06.90\00:36:08.66
And then God I--
00:36:08.70\00:36:10.13
God opened up providence for
me to get back into Brooklyn,
00:36:10.17\00:36:15.24
the same place
where I used to stay.
00:36:15.27\00:36:16.60
So I got back to Brooklyn
00:36:16.64\00:36:17.97
and then, now I have to survive.
00:36:18.01\00:36:19.47
It's Brooklyn,
you have to survive.
00:36:19.51\00:36:21.04
That's right. You do.
00:36:23.51\00:36:24.85
Yeah, it's Brooklyn
man, you got to do something.
00:36:24.88\00:36:26.21
Yeah.
00:36:26.25\00:36:27.58
So I was again praying about it.
00:36:27.62\00:36:29.75
It was very clear to me
00:36:29.78\00:36:31.12
that God did not
want me to back to India
00:36:31.15\00:36:33.36
but wanted me to
come back to Brooklyn.
00:36:33.39\00:36:35.22
That's providence
opened up in Brooklyn for me.
00:36:35.26\00:36:37.73
Now I knew that God is going
to open up providence for me
00:36:37.76\00:36:40.16
survive as well
and I prayed about it.
00:36:40.20\00:36:42.56
From my side I said, "Okay,
00:36:42.60\00:36:44.27
let me go through some
you know, some websites
00:36:44.30\00:36:46.90
and see if I can apply
for some odd jobs for now
00:36:46.94\00:36:49.90
and I was, one day I
was very strongly impressed
00:36:49.94\00:36:53.14
to go for an
interview to a coffee shop
00:36:53.17\00:36:55.11
in West Village, Manhattan.
00:36:55.14\00:36:56.68
So it was really,
00:36:56.71\00:36:58.05
God like literally
forcing me to go there.
00:36:58.08\00:37:00.72
So I got dressed up and all
00:37:00.75\00:37:02.08
and I went to
Manhattan from Brooklyn
00:37:02.12\00:37:04.39
and before I stepped
into the coffee shop,
00:37:04.42\00:37:07.19
I thought, okay let me
read the add once again
00:37:07.22\00:37:09.29
just to
understand the prerequisites.
00:37:09.32\00:37:11.89
So I was about to step in
00:37:11.93\00:37:13.26
and I read and
the bottom of the ad,
00:37:13.29\00:37:14.63
it said "No walk-ins allowed."
00:37:14.66\00:37:16.70
And I was like, "Why
did God send me here?"
00:37:16.73\00:37:19.53
I noticed God forced me
here but why did I come here.
00:37:19.57\00:37:23.04
Maybe I thought I
just walk in and then say,
00:37:23.07\00:37:24.84
"Hey, I just came
so just interview me."
00:37:24.87\00:37:28.01
And I noticed that
00:37:28.04\00:37:29.54
there are a lot of
people inside the coffee shop
00:37:29.58\00:37:30.95
so I was a little hesitant.
00:37:30.98\00:37:32.31
I didn't want to
disturb their business
00:37:32.35\00:37:33.68
so I thought okay,
00:37:33.72\00:37:35.05
I sat outside the
coffee shop in a chair
00:37:35.08\00:37:36.42
and I said, "Hey," I
sent an email to them,
00:37:36.45\00:37:38.55
"I'm outside this
coffee shop right now,
00:37:38.59\00:37:41.52
I just noticed that
you don't allow walk-ins
00:37:41.56\00:37:44.13
but here is my
resume, I'm sitting outside."
00:37:44.16\00:37:46.66
And they asked
for pictures also.
00:37:46.70\00:37:48.66
So I had some pictures
with the Statue of Liberty
00:37:48.76\00:37:51.20
and friends hanging out.
00:37:51.23\00:37:52.57
I only had those pictures.
00:37:52.60\00:37:53.94
So I sent those pictures
00:37:53.97\00:37:55.30
only have these
pictures with me.
00:37:55.34\00:37:56.71
So I sent it to them.
00:37:56.74\00:37:58.07
I'm thinking of God's
providence going to work
00:37:58.11\00:37:59.94
but I was there
sitting for the some time
00:37:59.97\00:38:01.68
and no body
called me, no response,
00:38:01.71\00:38:03.04
nothing and then I
called their number,
00:38:03.08\00:38:04.41
I think I called
their number, I'm not sure.
00:38:04.45\00:38:05.78
But anyway, so there
was no kind of communication
00:38:05.81\00:38:07.78
or response from them
uh, for my application.
00:38:07.82\00:38:11.22
So, I thought okay,
00:38:11.25\00:38:13.15
so this is just
my own imagination
00:38:13.19\00:38:14.86
that I had to come here,
not God who impressed me.
00:38:14.89\00:38:17.53
So I was back to the subway
00:38:17.56\00:38:20.16
and I noticed a
chocolate store there
00:38:20.20\00:38:23.57
and the chocolate
store was well designed
00:38:23.60\00:38:26.30
and every thing
interiors were excellent
00:38:26.33\00:38:28.40
but there was not
many people there.
00:38:28.44\00:38:30.01
So my mind just took a
picture of the coffee shop
00:38:30.04\00:38:33.81
and I walked
back home, that's it.
00:38:33.84\00:38:35.18
And for the next one week,
00:38:35.21\00:38:36.54
this picture was
lingering in my mind.
00:38:36.58\00:38:38.38
So I was thinking,
when I said coffee shop,
00:38:38.41\00:38:40.22
no, it's a chocolate store,
chocolate store, I'm sorry.
00:38:40.25\00:38:43.08
Uh, so I'm thinking,
00:38:43.12\00:38:44.45
maybe I need to start
a carob treats business.
00:38:44.49\00:38:47.02
Vegan, sugar-free
carob treats business.
00:38:47.06\00:38:49.72
And I don't know
how to make carob treats
00:38:49.76\00:38:52.56
so I thought, okay
let me contact Heidi
00:38:52.59\00:38:54.66
and check if she knows somebody
whom she can connect me with
00:38:54.70\00:38:58.83
you know, so I can do
business at the same time
00:38:58.87\00:39:01.70
do ministry and evangelism
through the same business.
00:39:01.74\00:39:04.17
Okay, you're
trying to connect to that
00:39:04.21\00:39:05.54
and put things together
00:39:05.57\00:39:06.91
to support yourself and
the ministry, yup, yeah.
00:39:06.94\00:39:09.94
Absolutely, so
that was my intention
00:39:09.98\00:39:12.01
and so I send a text message,
"Heidi, do you know anyone
00:39:12.11\00:39:14.62
who can make vegan, carob treats
00:39:14.65\00:39:16.89
which are
healthy and delicious?"
00:39:16.92\00:39:18.49
Her response to me
were two words, "Yes, me."
00:39:18.52\00:39:21.32
Okay, when he sent that
to you were you thinking
00:39:23.66\00:39:27.56
just answer the question
00:39:27.60\00:39:28.93
or you're thinking maybe
something just happening here?
00:39:28.96\00:39:30.90
I just answered the question.
00:39:30.93\00:39:32.43
And then he started you
know, texting me and called me
00:39:32.47\00:39:35.20
and we started
talking about this
00:39:35.24\00:39:36.57
and he said,
"Look," he said, "I,
00:39:36.60\00:39:38.04
you know this happened, I
have this vision in my mind,
00:39:38.07\00:39:41.01
I'm thinking that
we can you know, sell.
00:39:41.04\00:39:44.18
We should start a
health food ministry
00:39:44.21\00:39:45.65
and sell, health
foods, health desserts
00:39:45.68\00:39:47.88
to fund the Bible work."
00:39:47.92\00:39:50.19
And then light
started glowing up.
00:39:50.22\00:39:52.55
Now you're mind was not,
00:39:52.59\00:39:54.22
health foods per
say, health desserts.
00:39:54.26\00:39:55.99
Yes.
00:39:56.02\00:39:57.36
Still got that
dessert thing going on.
00:39:57.39\00:39:59.23
And praise the Lord.
00:40:03.53\00:40:05.07
Desserts are important.
00:40:05.10\00:40:06.43
So the eyes beginning, the idea
00:40:06.47\00:40:09.10
rather is
beginning to birth itself
00:40:09.14\00:40:12.07
that we can do
something here, ministry wise.
00:40:12.11\00:40:14.08
Yes, and then we began praying
you know, praying together
00:40:14.11\00:40:16.58
having worship
every day on the phone
00:40:16.61\00:40:17.95
and praying together and praying
00:40:17.98\00:40:19.31
you know, what does
God want us to do with this
00:40:19.35\00:40:20.82
and at the very same time,
00:40:20.85\00:40:23.18
I had been reading a
book that had been given to us
00:40:23.22\00:40:25.75
at the Evangelism Field School
00:40:25.79\00:40:28.19
or the International
Field School of Evangelism
00:40:28.22\00:40:30.59
by Mark Fidley,
Finley and Ted Wilson.
00:40:30.63\00:40:33.06
They gave me a book
called The Blue Print,
00:40:33.09\00:40:36.23
Ministry for the city
00:40:36.26\00:40:37.60
and it's
written by two gentlemen
00:40:37.63\00:40:39.00
who have business experience.
00:40:39.03\00:40:40.37
They've compiled all
Alan White's writings
00:40:40.40\00:40:41.74
and how do ministry in the city
00:40:41.77\00:40:43.44
based on the vision from
Alan White of the bee hive.
00:40:43.47\00:40:46.84
Nine or ten
different ministries,
00:40:46.88\00:40:48.28
all working together
00:40:48.31\00:40:49.64
and then you have a thriving
thing going in a large city.
00:40:49.68\00:40:52.98
And I had started to read
that about a month or so prior
00:40:53.01\00:40:56.99
and I had a small group.
00:40:57.02\00:40:58.69
We are all reading the book.
00:40:58.72\00:41:00.16
I recommended the book to Ivan,
00:41:00.19\00:41:01.76
a friend of his
got the book for him--
00:41:01.79\00:41:03.36
As a surprise, as a surprise
yeah, he had sent it to me,
00:41:03.39\00:41:06.73
yeah, I didn't know
he's going to send it me.
00:41:06.76\00:41:08.10
He sent it to me on the same day
00:41:08.13\00:41:09.46
when I shared my
vision with Heidi
00:41:09.50\00:41:10.83
about making the carobs
treats in New York City.
00:41:10.87\00:41:13.40
Lord has
started lining stuff up.
00:41:13.44\00:41:14.77
The timing and everything,
00:41:14.80\00:41:16.14
yeah, God is working
everything out and so--
00:41:16.17\00:41:19.07
We had to come up for the name
00:41:19.11\00:41:20.44
like we had to
come up with the names
00:41:20.48\00:41:21.81
so people were
like, "We'll ask them."
00:41:21.84\00:41:23.18
"What are you guys name,
going to name your venture?"
00:41:23.21\00:41:25.68
And then I started
fasting and praying about it.
00:41:25.71\00:41:27.68
So and then I called
after the fasting was over,
00:41:27.72\00:41:30.19
I mean, at that
time I got this name,
00:41:30.22\00:41:31.69
"Heidi's Health Kitchen."
00:41:31.72\00:41:33.32
So I called
Heidi, I said, "Heidi,
00:41:33.36\00:41:34.69
we are going to
name our venture,
00:41:34.72\00:41:36.06
Heidi's Health
Kitchen what do you think?
00:41:36.09\00:41:38.33
She said, "Hmm, interesting"
00:41:38.36\00:41:40.73
when I was uh,
that is her response.
00:41:40.76\00:41:43.37
And I said, "When I
was eight years old,
00:41:43.40\00:41:44.93
I had a cook book and I
named it as "Heidi's Kitchen"
00:41:44.97\00:41:49.74
So that how the name--
00:41:49.77\00:41:51.11
So the name
actually came from you,
00:41:51.14\00:41:52.67
the Lord gave you the
name, Praise the Lord.
00:41:52.71\00:41:54.71
Now I need to say, you're
still in Babylon Long Island
00:41:54.74\00:41:57.05
and you are in Brooklyn.
00:41:57.08\00:41:58.41
You are in 718
and you are in 516.
00:41:58.45\00:42:01.45
Six three one. Six three one.
00:42:01.48\00:42:02.85
Yeah, you live further out.
00:42:02.88\00:42:05.05
I'm trying to
remember my area codes there.
00:42:05.09\00:42:07.82
But yeah, so you are not I mean,
00:42:07.86\00:42:09.29
you're a good
ways from each other.
00:42:09.32\00:42:11.29
Not we're thinking
00:42:11.33\00:42:12.66
you are in the same
city, no you're not--
00:42:12.69\00:42:14.03
Between Long Island
railroad and subway.
00:42:14.06\00:42:15.40
It's a two-hour.
00:42:15.43\00:42:16.77
And then my friend
asked, my- we went to a friend
00:42:16.80\00:42:18.63
and we started distributing
samples of the carobs treats,
00:42:18.67\00:42:21.34
which Heidi
makes and then he said,
00:42:21.37\00:42:22.77
"Do you have your colors
ready, your brand colors?
00:42:22.80\00:42:25.47
And then he said, "Why don't
you guys, do a pink and brown."
00:42:25.51\00:42:28.44
And then immediately I said,
yeah, pink and brown is good
00:42:28.48\00:42:31.08
and she agreed to it immediately
00:42:31.11\00:42:32.45
so and then we left his
office, we were walking back
00:42:32.48\00:42:34.65
and then "You know,
why I said pink and brown
00:42:34.68\00:42:36.72
would be good for our
logo" she said, "Why?"
00:42:36.75\00:42:39.35
I said because brown
for me and pink for you.
00:42:39.39\00:42:41.32
Okay.
00:42:43.56\00:42:46.09
And then she said,
00:42:46.13\00:42:47.46
"You know, Ivan, pink and brown
00:42:47.50\00:42:48.83
are my favorite
colors all the time.
00:42:48.86\00:42:50.63
Like that is her you
know, always favorite--
00:42:50.67\00:42:52.00
Everyone who knows me
knows my favorite colors
00:42:52.03\00:42:53.57
have always been pink and brown.
00:42:53.60\00:42:55.24
So that fell into place
00:42:55.27\00:42:56.60
and then the logo
has to be designed.
00:42:56.64\00:42:58.67
So again I was praying about it,
00:42:58.71\00:43:00.14
God impressed me
00:43:00.18\00:43:01.51
that the H has to be
in the form of butterfly
00:43:01.54\00:43:03.11
'cause it has to resonate
Heidi's vibrant character
00:43:03.14\00:43:06.41
personality that is, and--
00:43:06.45\00:43:08.02
Let's bring that logo back up.
00:43:08.05\00:43:09.65
I just want to, in
want to bring that back up
00:43:09.68\00:43:11.02
and take a look at it.
00:43:11.05\00:43:12.89
'Cause we are talking about it,
00:43:12.92\00:43:14.26
the, if you can
bring the graphic back up.
00:43:14.29\00:43:16.09
There we are. Okay.
00:43:16.12\00:43:17.46
So that what the
butterfly, yeah, okay.
00:43:17.49\00:43:20.03
Side view of a butterfly.
00:43:20.06\00:43:21.40
That's a yes indeed.
00:43:21.43\00:43:22.76
Heidi's Health Kitchen,
first of all it's very pretty.
00:43:22.80\00:43:25.10
And it is catchy, I
could see this on a big signed,
00:43:25.13\00:43:29.10
you know,
somewhere down in a village.
00:43:29.14\00:43:30.71
It's really, really Heidi.
00:43:30.74\00:43:33.21
Well, where were we excited,
we had an event coming up
00:43:33.24\00:43:35.31
or we're going to
have two eight foot tables,
00:43:35.34\00:43:37.88
we're going to have 16
feet of Heidi's Health Kitchen,
00:43:37.91\00:43:40.22
banner on each side and
another one in the middle.
00:43:40.25\00:43:42.02
It was so exciting.
00:43:42.05\00:43:43.39
But out of 16 feet, half
00:43:43.42\00:43:45.09
we're going to of
course sell our desserts
00:43:45.12\00:43:47.56
and then the other
half, you are going to offer
00:43:47.59\00:43:49.29
free medical
missionary services as well.
00:43:49.32\00:43:52.06
Oh, wow, quite a job.
00:43:52.09\00:43:53.43
Blood pressure
testing, relaxation therapy.
00:43:53.46\00:43:54.86
Chair message, my brother
Martin is going to do it.
00:43:54.90\00:43:56.23
Praise God, now this ministry
does not exist for itself. No.
00:43:56.26\00:44:01.97
It exists to help
other things you're doing.
00:44:02.00\00:44:05.17
Walk me though how one feeds
the other or funds the other.
00:44:05.21\00:44:08.68
Yes, currently uh, we make
several different products.
00:44:08.71\00:44:12.25
They can be seen on our website
www.heidishealthkitchen.com.
00:44:12.28\00:44:15.28
But our signature
product line is the carubies,
00:44:15.32\00:44:17.39
and that's the carobs.
00:44:17.42\00:44:18.75
The carubies. We
started with one flavor--
00:44:18.79\00:44:20.12
You didn't happen to
bring any carubies with you?
00:44:20.16\00:44:21.49
We sure did
actually. Oh, praise the Lord.
00:44:21.52\00:44:22.86
Very good. Yes, we did.
00:44:22.89\00:44:24.23
We have a box for you.
00:44:24.26\00:44:25.59
Why come all this way
00:44:26.33\00:44:27.66
and not bring some
good carubies there you go.
00:44:27.70\00:44:29.26
Excellent. Those are carubies.
00:44:29.30\00:44:31.63
And so um, every
purchase of carubies
00:44:31.67\00:44:35.64
goes to fund the
Bible work in New York City
00:44:35.67\00:44:39.27
and so uh, so this is
how we've gotten started.
00:44:39.31\00:44:42.38
We offer free cooking
classes in New York City,
00:44:42.41\00:44:44.65
we sell our products
after the cooking class
00:44:44.68\00:44:46.88
and every purchase
funds the current Bible work
00:44:46.92\00:44:49.75
going on now in New York City.
00:44:49.78\00:44:51.42
And we're raising funds to
open an Adventist restaurant.
00:44:51.45\00:44:54.82
We are raising, we're looking.
00:44:54.86\00:44:56.19
Our goal is to raise about
$500,000 to open a restaurant.
00:44:56.22\00:45:00.36
Which is why God is
going to bless this?
00:45:00.40\00:45:03.57
Because it's, you
started off as a means
00:45:03.60\00:45:07.80
to do direct evangelism.
00:45:07.84\00:45:10.37
What goes in your mind
is we're not doing cooking
00:45:10.41\00:45:12.37
just to feed people.
00:45:12.41\00:45:14.91
This is the method
to fund to reach people.
00:45:14.94\00:45:18.51
We don't want to
open a restaurant
00:45:18.55\00:45:19.88
to open a restaurant, we
want to open this restaurant
00:45:19.91\00:45:22.75
knowing right up
front our staff will include
00:45:22.78\00:45:25.45
Bible workers and
medical missionaries
00:45:25.49\00:45:27.39
going door to door.
00:45:27.42\00:45:28.76
Praise God. Praise God.
00:45:28.79\00:45:30.13
We'll be open for
breakfast and lunch.
00:45:30.16\00:45:31.89
In the evening there will be
health classes, Bible classes,
00:45:31.93\00:45:35.66
seminars and stress management,
stop smoking all these things,
00:45:35.70\00:45:39.13
we're serving the
community in the evenings.
00:45:39.17\00:45:40.70
This follows into the
center of influence modal
00:45:40.74\00:45:43.30
that we were talking about.
00:45:43.34\00:45:44.67
The picture just left.
Now I was coming to it.
00:45:44.71\00:45:46.57
I want to see it again because
I want to know what that is.
00:45:46.61\00:45:48.31
That's the
vision. That's the vision.
00:45:48.34\00:45:49.68
That's the vision. Yeah, yeah.
00:45:49.71\00:45:51.28
Let's bring that
back up guys if are uh,
00:45:51.31\00:45:53.78
first of all, I like that.
00:45:53.82\00:45:55.98
You got a little fresh go thing
00:45:56.02\00:45:57.35
going on there
little thing outside.
00:45:57.39\00:45:58.72
Yeah, that is
really, really good.
00:45:58.75\00:46:00.16
So the vision is a
café or a small restaurant.
00:46:00.19\00:46:04.56
Are you thinking, in Manhattan
and Brooklyn, in Queen Square--
00:46:04.59\00:46:06.29
In Manhattan.
00:46:06.33\00:46:07.66
Yes, we are looking for
a store front like that.
00:46:07.70\00:46:09.60
So if anybody is watching
00:46:09.63\00:46:11.07
and you own
property in Manhattan
00:46:11.10\00:46:12.80
and you'd like to help us out,
we'd be we'd love to see it.
00:46:12.83\00:46:15.50
But we are looking--
00:46:15.54\00:46:16.87
That would be a
blessing of the Lord.
00:46:16.91\00:46:18.24
Amen. 'Cause you know what?
00:46:18.27\00:46:19.61
Manhattan is just
going to be your first.
00:46:19.64\00:46:21.08
That's going to be your first--
00:46:21.11\00:46:22.48
Then Lord is going to
take you to other places.
00:46:22.51\00:46:23.95
You know, first of all, I
see this in the tragective
00:46:23.98\00:46:26.92
what God wants for cities.
00:46:26.95\00:46:28.65
Um, knocking on doors is good
00:46:28.68\00:46:31.92
but you got to have a way
for to draw people to you.
00:46:31.95\00:46:35.89
Because the
towns are just too big.
00:46:35.92\00:46:38.39
And I think the
idea is heaven inspired
00:46:38.43\00:46:41.56
that your, you are
basically evangelist.
00:46:41.60\00:46:44.60
This is just
something to support evangelism.
00:46:44.63\00:46:47.77
The gourmet food is going
to reach us to those classes
00:46:47.80\00:46:50.71
that are not being
reached in the big cities.
00:46:50.74\00:46:52.94
Very, very cool.
00:46:52.97\00:46:54.31
Give me some idea
of the kinds of things
00:46:54.34\00:46:56.44
that you are
providing even now, food wise.
00:46:56.48\00:46:58.21
We know we got the carubies.
00:46:58.25\00:46:59.75
The carubies. Yes.
00:46:59.78\00:47:01.65
The carubies,
what else is in your--
00:47:01.68\00:47:03.65
We have a few
pictures of some of our foods.
00:47:03.69\00:47:05.79
Let's do it.
00:47:05.82\00:47:07.22
So in addition to the carubies,
00:47:07.26\00:47:08.99
we currently sell
organic kale chips.
00:47:09.02\00:47:12.49
I love kale chips.
00:47:12.53\00:47:13.86
In four different flavors.
00:47:13.90\00:47:15.23
We have cheesy, spicy,
garlic and jalapeno lime. Yum.
00:47:15.26\00:47:20.24
We also sell raw
vegan tarts as well.
00:47:20.27\00:47:23.74
And then carrot mousse,
00:47:23.77\00:47:25.34
and then maple roasted
nuts pecans and cashew nuts.
00:47:25.37\00:47:28.91
Now back off just a second.
00:47:28.94\00:47:30.55
Walk me through raw- raw tarts.
00:47:30.58\00:47:33.18
Sure. It's a frozen raw tart.
00:47:33.21\00:47:35.95
We have a key lime,
00:47:35.98\00:47:37.32
we have a blue berry
icai pomegranate mint.
00:47:37.35\00:47:40.56
And next in the
making is going to be
00:47:40.59\00:47:42.26
a mango pineapple type deal.
00:47:42.29\00:47:43.63
Oh, I'm scared of you now.
00:47:43.66\00:47:45.16
Excellent. They are
absolutely delicious.
00:47:46.49\00:47:48.20
For our summer line
00:47:48.23\00:47:49.56
we actually just
recently introduced
00:47:49.60\00:47:51.27
a raw vegan ice cream.
00:47:51.30\00:47:53.03
Indian based, Indian
flavoring little bit.
00:47:53.07\00:47:55.84
It's called kulfi.
00:47:55.87\00:47:57.34
Wow, see these are kind
of things that everybody is--
00:47:57.37\00:48:00.44
you know, you are not going
to find this on every corner.
00:48:00.48\00:48:02.38
So you've got an niche
there of different tastes
00:48:02.41\00:48:06.11
that they can't
get anyplace else.
00:48:06.15\00:48:07.78
My wife does a key
lime thing out of avocado
00:48:07.82\00:48:12.05
and which is
really, really good.
00:48:12.09\00:48:13.42
But Indian flavors, is
kind of a whole new deal.
00:48:13.46\00:48:16.12
Yes, so we are
using cardamom and vanilla
00:48:16.16\00:48:18.49
and just making things
a little bit different.
00:48:18.53\00:48:20.23
Whoa, whoa, scary.
00:48:20.26\00:48:22.43
Yeah, and you know,
God's going to bless.
00:48:22.46\00:48:24.10
Amen. He is going to bless.
00:48:24.13\00:48:25.47
And really the niche is
everything that we make,
00:48:25.50\00:48:27.94
everything we produce,
00:48:27.97\00:48:29.30
everything we show
in our cooking classes,
00:48:29.34\00:48:30.91
everything is plant
based and gluten free.
00:48:30.94\00:48:33.58
Praise God.
00:48:33.61\00:48:34.94
I want to do this real quick.
00:48:34.98\00:48:36.31
I want to go to
the contact information
00:48:36.34\00:48:38.25
because first of all,
this is, it's a new venture,
00:48:38.28\00:48:41.62
it's a God-blessed venture
00:48:41.65\00:48:43.15
and if you want to
get in on a ground floor
00:48:43.18\00:48:45.02
to help Heidi and Ivan
00:48:45.05\00:48:47.42
and what they are
doing in New York City,
00:48:47.46\00:48:49.72
here is the contact information
that you are going to need.
00:48:49.76\00:48:52.63
Heidi's Health
Kitchen is committed
00:48:54.33\00:48:55.96
to offering
delicious, healthy vegan foods
00:48:56.00\00:48:59.07
that are
appealing to the senses.
00:48:59.10\00:49:00.97
If you'd like to know more,
00:49:01.00\00:49:02.34
you can write to
Heidi's Health Kitchen,
00:49:02.37\00:49:04.67
Post Office Box 232,
Babylon, New York 11702.
00:49:04.71\00:49:10.21
That's Heidi's Health
Kitchen, Post Office Box 232,
00:49:10.25\00:49:14.38
Babylon, New York 11702,
You can call (631) 663-3128.
00:49:14.42\00:49:21.16
That's (631) 663-3128.
00:49:21.19\00:49:24.59
Or visit them online
for events, food and more
00:49:24.63\00:49:28.26
at heidishealthkitchen.com.
00:49:28.30\00:49:30.77
That's heidishealthkitchen.com.
00:49:30.80\00:49:34.77
So that is the contact
information that you need.
00:49:39.21\00:49:41.98
Now we've got some pictures,
00:49:42.01\00:49:43.35
we need to kind
of run through it.
00:49:43.38\00:49:44.71
It kind of gives the
people a little vision
00:49:44.75\00:49:46.08
of what we're trying do.
00:49:46.11\00:49:47.45
So let's go to
those pictures now.
00:49:47.48\00:49:48.82
Sure, so these are pictures
of some of the attendees
00:49:48.85\00:49:50.22
that have come to our free
cooking classes in Manhattan.
00:49:50.25\00:49:52.89
If you got a
friend or a family member
00:49:52.92\00:49:54.59
that lives in Manhattan,
00:49:54.62\00:49:55.99
send them to the
Crossroads SDA Church
00:49:56.02\00:49:58.19
every second
Sunday of the month.
00:49:58.23\00:49:59.79
These are our attendees.
00:49:59.83\00:50:01.16
We got a few more pictures here.
00:50:01.20\00:50:02.53
We always have a good crowd.
00:50:02.56\00:50:03.90
Yeah, I would guess
this has a good number--
00:50:03.93\00:50:05.27
Good attendance, all
of it from the community.
00:50:05.30\00:50:06.84
We also make sure we
engage with our attendees.
00:50:06.87\00:50:09.84
So you know, make a good
humor, make it really humorous
00:50:09.87\00:50:13.17
as well for the people to enjoy.
00:50:13.21\00:50:14.78
And this is our
team, our volunteers
00:50:14.81\00:50:16.98
and that's our
pastor from Crossroads.
00:50:17.01\00:50:18.98
Yes, so now
everybody is volunteers.
00:50:19.01\00:50:21.28
Where is the money coming
from to buy the cooking stuff?
00:50:21.32\00:50:23.95
We have been able to
partner with the church.
00:50:23.99\00:50:25.89
Actually this guy
right here, David Ephraim,
00:50:25.92\00:50:27.89
he is the Personal
Ministries Director
00:50:27.92\00:50:29.99
and he has really spearhead this
00:50:30.03\00:50:32.03
and what I love about this
00:50:32.06\00:50:33.60
is that the church is working
with Heidi's Health Kitchen
00:50:33.63\00:50:37.00
as part of the
long term evangelism--
00:50:37.03\00:50:38.73
Amen. Good.
00:50:38.77\00:50:40.10
So these cooking classes where,
00:50:40.14\00:50:41.87
here you see Ivan and I
demonstrating a cooking class.
00:50:41.90\00:50:44.77
These are the bridge of events
00:50:44.81\00:50:47.51
which will be
followed up by our small group
00:50:47.54\00:50:50.08
and our team, are
going door to door.
00:50:50.11\00:50:52.45
And then, we are
going to be offering
00:50:52.48\00:50:54.38
some of the interests
00:50:54.42\00:50:55.75
like stress
management and stop smoking,
00:50:55.78\00:50:57.99
things that people
that express interest in
00:50:58.02\00:51:00.26
and then all of
this is leading up
00:51:00.29\00:51:01.96
to an evangelistic
series in November.
00:51:01.99\00:51:04.36
So you got
names, you got people,
00:51:04.39\00:51:05.79
you're getting contacts
and you're making friends.
00:51:05.83\00:51:08.06
Yes, by touching them
where they need to be touched.
00:51:08.10\00:51:09.43
Absolutely. Praise the Lord.
00:51:09.46\00:51:10.80
Absolutely, these are some
pictures from our local ASI
00:51:10.83\00:51:15.40
and met some people
that you might know there.
00:51:15.44\00:51:19.37
Yeah, I know that guy.
00:51:19.41\00:51:20.74
It's a blessing to go to ASI
00:51:22.31\00:51:23.75
where we were able
to share the testimony.
00:51:23.78\00:51:25.48
And that's from the
vegan event in Manhattan.
00:51:25.51\00:51:27.62
Yes, this is the vegan
market called The Seed.
00:51:27.65\00:51:30.19
They contacted us
from our cooking classes
00:51:30.22\00:51:32.62
and said, "We want you
to participate with us.
00:51:32.65\00:51:34.19
Excellent, Excellent, good.
00:51:34.22\00:51:35.92
Now at this place we've
got a few pictures here.
00:51:35.96\00:51:37.99
We've got our banner,
00:51:38.03\00:51:39.36
and you'll see a little
bit of our table spread here.
00:51:39.39\00:51:41.76
At this event, they said, "Look,
00:51:41.80\00:51:44.07
we got animal rights covered,
we've got veganism covered
00:51:44.10\00:51:46.80
but we don't have
anybody promoting health."
00:51:46.84\00:51:48.54
And Ivan said--
00:51:48.57\00:51:49.90
"That's were we come in."
00:51:49.94\00:51:51.27
Oh, praise the
Lord, praise the Lord.
00:51:52.87\00:51:54.64
The fact that
people are knowing,
00:51:54.68\00:51:56.01
you are now beginning to reach
out to you is very positive.
00:51:56.04\00:51:57.81
Yes. Excellent.
00:51:57.85\00:51:59.18
These are some of the products
we sell there are kulfi,
00:51:59.21\00:52:01.85
our raw vegan ice
cream, our carubies--
00:52:01.88\00:52:03.52
Four-layer. Yum.
00:52:03.55\00:52:05.35
Raw peanut butter
cookies, our kale chips.
00:52:05.39\00:52:07.96
Yeah, I love kale
chips. Yeah, okay, so--
00:52:07.99\00:52:10.39
And so that was a very
successful event for us.
00:52:10.43\00:52:12.83
Uh, this is our ASI family,
00:52:12.86\00:52:14.90
that, the family that
leads our ASI Atlantic chapter,
00:52:14.93\00:52:17.37
the Perry's.
00:52:17.40\00:52:18.73
They came to see us.
00:52:18.77\00:52:20.10
Oh, excellent, excellent.
00:52:20.14\00:52:21.47
So you are getting
some ASI support also.
00:52:21.50\00:52:22.84
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah, praise God.
00:52:22.87\00:52:24.21
That's got a real
blessing. Praise God.
00:52:24.24\00:52:25.67
Now we're going to
go to our news break,
00:52:25.71\00:52:27.18
then on the backend
we've got two minutes.
00:52:27.21\00:52:29.14
I want to talk about a little
bit more about the vision,
00:52:29.18\00:52:31.35
that you've got
something in your mind
00:52:31.38\00:52:32.71
that Christ is leading you to
00:52:32.75\00:52:34.08
and we want to see how our
folks can help you do that.
00:52:34.12\00:52:35.88
We've got a news break
00:52:35.92\00:52:37.25
and then we'll be
just back in two minutes.
00:52:37.29\00:52:39.42