Participants: C. A. Murray (Host), Pr. Juan Garcia & Laurie Olson & Susan
Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY015038A
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00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my words Let my word 00:29 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:50 Mending broken people Mending broken people 01:06 Hello and welcome to 3ABN today. 01:08 My name is C.A. Murray and allow me once again 01:11 to thank you for sharing just a little of your 01:14 no doubt very busy day with us 01:16 and to thank you as always for your love, your prayers 01:19 and your support of 3ABN as a ministry 01:22 that seeks to lift up the mighty 01:24 and matchless name of Jesus. 01:25 And we realize that we could not do what we are called to do 01:28 without your partnership and without your support. 01:30 So again we thank you. 01:31 And I want you to kind of draw closer to television set 01:34 as-- we're gonna have fun. 01:35 First of all this is gonna be a fun program. 01:37 We got some really neat guests, some really cool people 01:40 that I have known to come to love even as we just met 01:43 for just a little bit and we are gonna talk about 01:46 what I would call a niche ministry. 01:48 This is a particular ministry 01:50 targeted to a particular set of people that-- 01:54 when you are thinking about ministries 01:55 that the church can function in and do, 01:58 you may not think of this as a ministry 02:00 but we've got three people to tell you 02:02 that this is a fast growing and a wonderful ministry 02:06 and if you saw on the jib shot coming in 02:10 you saw this motorcycle here 02:12 behind this wonderful Kawasaki 1400 02:16 that's backing us up. 02:17 We are gonna talk about motorcycle ministry, 02:19 "Adventist Motorcycle Ministry." 02:22 Just-- first of all to start the fun subject 02:24 and I've got some really fun people. 02:26 I'm gonna start with Pastor Juan Garcia. 02:27 Pastor, good to have you here. 02:28 Good to be here, pastor. 02:29 And he is sitting next to Laurie Olson. 02:32 The lovely Laurie Olson. Good to have you here. 02:35 And Susan Armstrong is anchoring our guest role. 02:39 These are all riders, these are all 02:42 part of this ministry and their dress bespeaks, 02:44 their dress betreyeth them. 02:46 The dress bespeaks that they are part of 02:49 not only the ministry but they are riders, all three. 02:54 Some in the front end and one on the backend 02:56 but they are, they are all on motorcycle. 02:58 So we are gonna talk about what this ministry is, 03:00 what this ministry does, 03:01 how you can help with this ministry, 03:03 the kinds of successes that the ministry is having. 03:06 It's gonna be a really fun hour 03:08 that we are gonna spend together 03:10 and then we have some Skype calls we are gonna do 03:13 and we are gonna down to Brazil in just a moment 03:15 because this ministry pastor has chapters where? 03:19 Let me know where. 03:20 Well, we have in eight international countries so far. 03:24 So Brazil, Australia, Nepal, Pakistan, India. 03:28 Wow! So we are growing. 03:29 Hungary, you know. Praise the Lord. 03:31 Now before we go to our music I need to talk to you 03:33 just to gather the history. 03:34 Pastor, you are from where? 03:35 I'm from Puerto Rico. 03:36 From Puerto Rico, all right. Praise the Lord. 03:40 Amen. 03:41 Now, how long you have been riding. 03:43 Wow, since I was in high school. 03:48 I always liked the bike and use it to go to school, 03:50 then I went to college 03:52 in Seventh-day Adventist college in Puerto Rico. 03:53 I did motorcycle up the mountain, 03:56 then I become a pastor and then I ride my bike 03:58 to the conference wherever you go. 04:00 It was part of me. Yes. 04:03 So when you came to this you always kept on riding. 04:05 Yeah. 04:06 You know, as you mature and you progress 04:09 you upgrade your bike, 04:11 that's important in this culture, you know. 04:13 So I did serve to pastor. Praise the Lord. 04:20 You came into the ministry riding, 04:22 did you know that AMM 04:23 even existed back in those days? 04:25 No. Yeah. 04:27 Praise the Lord. 04:28 Laurie, you are from Oregon. Yes. 04:32 I'm told. 04:33 Did you grow up in Adventist home? 04:34 No, not all. 04:36 How did you come to the Lord? 04:37 Oh, boy, that's a big, that's a big question. 04:40 Oh, give me the Readers Digest version. 04:42 Well, I would just say that I had been searching 04:45 for God all my life. 04:46 I know He has always been there 04:48 and went to evangelistic series that we had in our town 04:55 and do some Bible studies and the Lord delivered me 05:00 from my smoking addiction. 05:01 For 35 years I smoked 05:04 about two, two and half packs a day. 05:06 You must have started as a baby? 05:07 I was nine years old. 05:09 Yeah, I didn't grow up in a Christian home at all. 05:11 I grew up in a very secular home. 05:12 We have motorcycles and actually have 05:15 some gang members in our family. 05:17 So I was kind of used to that kind of seeing and so-- 05:21 anyways, you know, the Lord had a calling for me 05:24 and He delivered from that and other things. 05:27 So I'm thankful. Praise the Lord. 05:29 So you again riding before you became Adventist? 05:32 Well, I was-- I rode dirt bikes growing up 05:34 with my brother but I never rode street bikes. 05:36 My husband and I when we were married 05:38 back in let's see 99 he wanted to get a motorcycle 05:43 and I said, well, you better two 05:44 because I'm not riding on the back. 05:45 So, we are riding ever since. Okay. 05:48 Now speaking of riding on the back-- 05:51 Susan Armstrong, you are from where? 05:53 I'm from Oregon also. Boy, another Oregonian. 05:55 Yes. 05:56 Did you grow up in Adventist home? 05:58 Yes, I did. 05:59 We finally got a classic Adventist here. 06:01 Now were you riding before you became Adventist or? 06:04 Well, I was three months old when I became Adventist 06:06 by my parents was. 06:08 No, I was not riding until-- my husband actually has a-- 06:13 he enjoys it and I go along because he enjoys it 06:16 and I want to be with him. 06:18 But then really what brought me into really enjoying it 06:22 as when I found out that this is not a motorcycle club, 06:27 it is a ministry and that made me 06:31 very much supported and it's just unbelievable. 06:35 Yeah, I want to un-package that, 06:37 that is not a motorcycle club, it's a ministry 06:40 and there is a difference. 06:41 So you are all actively involved 06:43 in the ministry end of this. 06:46 Now I got to get your titles right because, Pastor, 06:48 you are the executive vice-president of AMM. 06:52 Is that for AMM worldwide, AMM North America? 06:55 Worldwide. Worldwide, okay. 06:57 And Laurie is the national secretary. 07:01 Yes. Well, praise the Lord. 07:02 And Susan is a secretary of the Oregon chapter. 07:06 Yes. 07:08 Okay. Praise the Lord. 07:09 We've got that, we got that right. 07:10 And also-- Also national treasure. 07:14 That's very important. 07:15 Yes, sir. 07:17 We don't want to leave that out. 07:19 That is very, very important. 07:21 And I want to walk through the kinds of ministries that 07:24 that you are involved in and what makes this 07:27 a tool in the hand of God. 07:30 So it's AMM, that's what we're gonna be talking about today, 07:32 that is the burden of our hour together. 07:36 Before we un-package their stories further 07:38 we want to go to our music which comes to us 07:40 all the way from Australia. 07:42 Every now and then Sandra makes her way here 07:44 to the States and we always, we are very happy 07:47 when she does come 07:48 because she is such a fun person 07:49 and such a lovely Christian and a gifted singer 07:53 and she is going to be singing "You Gave Me Love." 08:11 You gave me time 08:14 When no one gave me time of day 08:23 You looked deep inside 08:26 While the rest of the world looked away 08:36 You smiled at me 08:38 When there weren't just friends everywhere 08:48 You gave me love 08:50 When nobody gave me a prayer 09:00 That's why I call You Savior 09:06 That's why I call You friend 09:12 You touched my heart 09:15 You touched my soul 09:18 And helped me start all over again 09:24 That's why I love You Jesus 09:30 That's why I'll always care 09:37 You gave me love 09:40 When nobody gave me a prayer 09:49 You gave me laughter 09:52 After I cried all my tears 10:01 You heard my dreams 10:04 While the rest of the world closed its ears 10:13 I looked in Your eyes 10:16 And I found such tenderness there 10:25 You gave me love 10:28 When nobody gave me a prayer 10:37 And that's why I call You Savior 10:43 That's why I call You friend 10:49 'Cause You touched my heart 10:52 You touched my soul 10:54 And helped me start all over again 11:00 And that's why I love You Jesus 11:06 That's why I'll always care 11:12 You gave me love 11:15 When nobody gave me a prayer 11:24 And that's why I call You Savior 11:30 That's why I call You friend 11:36 You touched my heart 11:39 You touched my soul 11:42 And helped me start all over again 11:48 That's why I love You Jesus 11:54 That's why I'll always care 12:01 You gave me love 12:04 When nobody gave me a prayer 12:20 Thank you so very much, Sandra Entermann. 12:22 "You Gave Me Love" so very, very well done. 12:24 My guests are Pastor Juan Garcia, 12:26 Laurie Olson, Susan Armstrong. 12:28 They all of Adventist Motorcycle Ministries. 12:32 Now, as you said to us a bit ago, Pastor, 12:35 that this is an international ministry 12:38 with chapters in several countries. 12:40 We have on our Skype line... 12:45 some representatives from Brazil. 12:48 And let me get this correct, 12:49 first of all Pastor Natal is here. 12:53 Are you with us, Pastor? 12:55 Yes, can you hear me? 12:57 I can hear you quite well. Thank you so very much. 12:59 Now the conference president is there also 13:02 and that's Pastor William Cesar. 13:05 Pastor, are you there? 13:06 Yep. 13:09 Praise the Lord. 13:10 Pastor Natal, tell me what conference that you are, 13:12 you are representing. 13:15 We are in the South Parana Conference 13:18 because Parana is a state of Brazil in the south. 13:22 So this is the South Parana Conference. 13:24 Alrighty. 13:25 Now the representative or the chapter president is-- 13:30 is it Leomar. 13:33 Leomar, Leomar Gehrke. Are you there? 13:36 Yeah. Yeah. 13:38 Praise t he Lord. 13:39 It's good to have you three gentlemen with us. 13:41 I need to ask are there many motorcycle riders in Brazil? 13:46 In Brazil, we have 376 members. 13:51 Praise the Lord. And which one we call Steps. 13:56 There are people who are not Adventist yet 13:58 but they are riding with people and they are, 14:00 will be soon baptized. 14:02 Praise the Lord. 14:04 So your ministry is actually an evangelistic ministry, 14:09 is that not so? 14:10 Totally. Totally evangelistic. 14:13 Now, Pastor Natal, I'm told that you are getting 14:17 great support from the conference. 14:19 Is that so? Yes. 14:21 Yes, my president is here 14:23 because we have a great support and Leomar and his ministry 14:27 they really are working, they ride, 14:30 the invite people to ride with them 14:32 and they distribute books, 14:34 Ellen White books with a different cover. 14:37 Can I show you, guys? 14:38 Please do. 14:39 This is a "Steps to Christ" but with a different cover. 14:45 It has a motorbike 14:48 and Jesus appears in the mirror. 14:52 It is very interesting 14:53 because Brazil is a Christian place, 14:56 you know, this attracts a lot of people. 14:58 and the message is the same, 14:59 it's "Steps to Christ" from Ellen White. 15:02 Excellent. We have that here. 15:03 Would you ask 15:04 the conference president for me, 15:07 how he feels about this kind of ministry 15:10 and the value of this kind of ministry? 15:25 When members are involved in any kind of ministry we did, 15:28 the goal of saving people from sin 15:31 this is very relevant for the church. 15:33 Very good. 15:35 Would you tell us please just some of the things 15:38 we're asking Leomar now, some of the things that 15:41 the ministry is doing specifically 15:44 to bring people to Christ. 15:58 One of the things they are going to secular 16:00 meetings of motor bikers 16:03 and they are going now next month to Brazil, 16:05 capital of Brazil to the second major meeting 16:08 on motor bikers in the world and they have a stand 16:14 and they will distribute books and some information. 16:19 The last year they distributed 7,000 books. 16:22 This year they have a goal to distribute 10,000 books. 16:25 Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. 16:27 Praise the Lord. 16:28 Could you give us some idea 16:30 of how many people have been baptized 16:32 into the church since the ministry has begun? 16:45 In two years, 22 people. 16:47 Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. 16:50 That's good evangelism. 16:52 That is evangelism. 16:53 And they have a motto, they have a slogan 16:56 that I love to hear. 16:58 Their slogan is something like, 17:01 "Doing what you have to do in the way you enjoy." 17:05 Oh, praise the Lord. 17:06 We like that. Say that again, pastor. 17:08 Say it one more time. 17:10 "Doing what I have to do but in the way I enjoy." 17:14 I like that. I like that. 17:15 Yeah. That's a good Christian motto. 17:17 Doing what you have to do but do it in the way that 17:19 you enjoy it so that you keep on doing it. 17:21 Gentlemen, thank you so very much. 17:23 We've got some more calls to make 17:24 and I want to talk to my guest here, 17:26 so we can't keep you too long. 17:27 But thank you so very much for being part of this ministry 17:30 and for lifting up Jesus there is Brazil. 17:34 Amen. Praise the Lord. Thank you. 17:36 God bless you. God bless you. 17:38 God bless. Bye-bye. 17:40 That's exciting. 17:42 It is. Yeah. 17:43 Now I suspect that you guys do some of the same kinds 17:46 of things in the States. 17:48 Let me talk to Laurie for just a little bit. 17:50 Out there in Oregon what are the some of the kinds 17:52 of events that you hold and the things that you do 17:55 to try to get the name of Jesus out there. 17:58 Yeah. 17:59 Yeah, so we attend rallies also, 18:01 secular rallies and we set up booths 18:04 and we pass out the literature that you see here 18:08 but we also walk along and we try to mingle 18:11 with the crowds and try to build relationships. 18:14 You know, get to know people and befriend them 18:17 and the Lord just always gives us an opportunity 18:20 to share the Three Angels' Messages 18:22 which is what I love to do. 18:24 And we also, we help the homeless. 18:27 We have a program where we help the homeless in Oregon. 18:30 We adopt families for Christmas. 18:32 We visit people that have fallen away 18:36 from the church, riders. 18:39 We get together, we pray, we visit churches. 18:42 We have church visits and, you know, fellowship and ride. 18:46 We love to ride so-- Praise the Lord. 18:48 Let me ask you this because when we think motorcyclists, 18:51 you know, there is this stigma. 18:53 Matter of fact we just recently had this incident in Waco. 18:57 One, when you guys show up at a secular rally, 19:02 is your presence accepted, is it resented, 19:06 how are you received 19:07 because you are brining Christ with you? 19:09 Is that something that people are open to 19:10 or is they are resistance? 19:12 Kind of walk me through that. 19:13 Maybe we will start with you, Susan. 19:14 That is one exciting thing to me 19:16 that I was not expecting. 19:19 Because you know, when we come, 19:22 we put our ID on our backs 19:24 and they know who we are and what we stand for. 19:27 And people come to you and start asking 19:30 about spiritual things. 19:32 That's what's been very exciting. 19:34 To me they are not, I mean, they don't beat around 19:37 the bush, they just go right to, 19:39 you know, I need prayer or something like 19:41 that has been very impressive to me. 19:45 I-- you know, you might be if-- 19:47 normally as a Christian we, 19:49 we try to behave like a Christian 19:53 and we might not tell people we are but with this 19:57 they see it automatically and it gets people to talking. 20:01 Praise the Lord. Praise God. Yes. 20:02 You praise God. 20:03 I want to talk about your dress, 20:05 you know, because there is this characteristic 20:09 "motorcycle" kind of dress 20:11 and you got the leather jackets on 20:13 and there is a lot of pins and patches and all, 20:15 you know, kind of things going on. 20:16 Glad the see the pastor got his cross 20:18 prominently displayed. 20:20 Laurie, see your name is there and you got your AMM 20:23 prominently displayed. 20:25 Is this kind of a more of a formal, 20:27 you got the white shirt on, you got the little tag 20:29 and little vest and a little pants, 20:31 you know, which I like. 20:32 This is kind of a more formal kind of a deal. 20:34 Right. 20:35 This is Sabbath. This is Sabbath. 20:36 This is Sabbath. This is Sabbath. 20:38 This is Sabbath dress. Praise the Lord. 20:40 For the church, these are our church clothes. 20:42 You dressed up to come to 3ABN. 20:43 Yes. Praise the Lord. 20:44 This one, she feels like saying happy Sabbath. 20:47 Yes, I do. 20:49 What are the little patches 20:50 and all these other little things mean? 20:53 Just little things you are gonna pick up along the way? 20:56 Well, when we go to rallies we can get little pins 20:59 if we want to 21:00 and then we bought some Christian patches. 21:04 I like the Christian patches like we like to wear here. 21:07 "Be an organ donor give your heart to Jesus." 21:09 And different things like that. 21:13 It's interesting, it intrigues people. 21:15 They like to read them. 21:18 Where and when did AMM actually began? 21:21 Does anybody know when this thing 21:22 actually got started, Pastor? 21:23 Well, we were born in October of 2008 21:27 Fort Myers, Florida. 21:30 These-- this ministry began in the mind of a layperson 21:34 and that excites me because you know, 21:36 our ministry started out in the mind of pastors 21:39 but in the mind of laypeople, you know, 21:42 and Miguel Dominguez, you know, came with this idea 21:44 because he belong to another association, 21:47 motorcycle association. 21:48 Say, why we don't have something like that? 21:50 So he spoke to Pastor Orlando Lopez 21:52 and Idaberto Torrez in the conference camp meeting 21:58 and they brought the news to me in Miami 22:01 and we start boarding and in October 2008 22:04 we got together with an 70 bikers 22:06 in the little church in the West coast of Florida. 22:09 So began in Florida? 22:10 Yes, sir. With a Latino guy? 22:11 Yes, sir. Praise the Lord. 22:14 Yes, sir. 22:16 And from there is being an amazing, you know, 22:20 we discuss the name-- first of all 22:23 it was the Adventist Motorcycle Association 22:26 but we ended up with the ministry part. 22:28 And as I said it's been a hit, 22:30 it'd been accepted all over the world 22:32 and the callers, we love that 22:34 the North American Division sponsor us. 22:37 You know, we ask them to do that. 22:38 So they took the risk to allow us to carry 22:41 the name and the logo at their same colors. 22:43 Yeah. 22:44 And that was so exciting for us, you know. 22:46 So I was telling Laurie here that 22:49 sometime I ride my bike with no, what do you call, 22:53 no identification and I'm a Christian still, you know. 22:56 But when I wear this collar 22:57 and when I wear the name of my church 22:59 and you know, I step up and saying 23:01 I have to be a better rider, more better behaved. 23:03 I'm sorry, sorry to say, but it's true, you know. 23:06 And this magic happened, now this mystery happened 23:10 when our members all around the world 23:12 wear our collars and our name. 23:14 Praise the Lord. 23:15 So this has full sponsorship all away to the top 23:18 of the North American Division? 23:19 Yes, sir. Praise the Lord. 23:20 Praise God. And praise God. 23:22 That is so wonderful. 23:24 So you guys found out about it, 23:26 did it kind of excite you that the church 23:28 actually had something that you could do 23:30 what you love but also marry that with evangelism for Jesus? 23:34 Absolutely. 23:35 Yeah. It's exciting. 23:37 Yeah, I'm sure it is. 23:39 Tell me a little bit, Laurie and Susan, quickly 23:42 about the kinds of things-- in fact, let me go to this. 23:45 You said before and this touched me 23:48 that this is not a club it's a ministry. 23:52 Let's wrestle with that just a little bit. 23:53 I want all three of you to weighing on this. 23:55 What separates this from 23:56 what would be a motorcycle club to a motorcycle ministry? 24:00 In your minds, what's the difference? 24:05 Before we start we always have prayer. 24:08 We ask the Lord to go with us. 24:10 We are prepared with literature that we want to give to people. 24:14 We are-- we actually do mingle 24:17 with the people a lot, with the purpose of making 24:20 ourselves available 24:21 so that people can see our patches. 24:24 Because we are going there with the idea of ministering 24:28 to somebody and finding 24:29 whoever might need it, you know. 24:33 Pastor, you agree? Laurie, you agree? 24:34 Of course, yes. 24:35 That one advantage is to see we have fun. 24:38 There is no doubt with that but our ride is a mission 24:44 and then and that makes of a ministry. 24:48 You know, we, every time we get together 24:50 we are going with the purpose of reach somebody, 24:54 pass it somebody, make friends with stranger 24:57 and later become family. 24:59 You know, what I'm saying? 25:00 If they come and hangout with these people here 25:02 how we eat, how we speak, how we have fun, 25:05 you know, and you don't see there all these things. 25:07 You know, what I'm saying? Yes. 25:08 They really want to joins us 25:10 and that's the experience we've been finding. 25:11 Yes, praise God. 25:13 That's why I like the logo from Brazil, 25:15 doing what is fun. 25:16 Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I like that. 25:19 That is a great thing. 25:23 Coming to the Lord, serving Lord on this wise 25:28 give me some idea of how many motorcycle riders 25:30 there are in the United States. 25:31 Is anybody have a ballpark figure? 25:33 Is it a large number? 25:35 It's close to 300. 25:37 Now I mean, in the total community. 25:39 Oh, that many. 25:40 Just total bikers in the States. 25:42 That brings them to along million. 25:43 Yeah, one million bikers in Sturgis. 25:45 We have an event coming up that's one of the largest 25:48 motorcycle rally events in the United States. 25:51 Now where would that be? 25:52 That's gonna be in Sturgis in South Dakota. 25:54 That's gonna be, yeah, coming up here in August so... 25:57 Now will you be there? Well, you will be there? 25:59 Yes, absolutely. We will have a booth. 26:01 I will be running children's booth believe it or not 26:03 that you bring children and Susan will have a... 26:07 A little health fair. 26:09 And will help assessment type thing. 26:11 Yeah. 26:12 Now you did not tell me you are-- 26:13 you have nursing background? 26:14 Yes. Both of you? 26:15 Not, me. No. I'm a hairdresser. 26:17 Okay, Susan does? I do. 26:18 Okay. Praise the Lord. 26:19 So this calls for a time investment. 26:21 This is not just kind of a now and again, 26:24 off and on kind of thing. 26:25 This calls for really investment 26:27 of your time and your resources? 26:29 Yes. Yeah. 26:30 We've been working on this for close to a year already. 26:35 So this Sturgis thing is an annual, 26:37 an annual kind of a deal? 26:39 You know, Ellen White says, 26:40 that whenever people are gathered in large numbers 26:42 for any reason Adventist ought to be there. 26:45 So you've got your justification 26:46 that you need to be there and this is a group. 26:48 Are these kinds of rallies are they held 26:52 often across the United States? 26:54 Is this something happens a lot? 26:55 Oh, yeah. Yeah. 26:57 How do you pick which one's you are going to attend 26:59 and which one's you are gonna try to have an influence in? 27:03 Well, you know, it just started off so small, 27:05 you know, for Oregon, for our chapter, 27:08 you know we were just asked 27:09 if we could set up a booth and we started out so small 27:12 just amazing how God has blessed 27:14 this group and led us to such larger rallies. 27:17 But you know, if they have us we come. 27:19 So we just invite ourselves and you have to pay 27:22 for the booth for the space but yeah-- 27:25 Wow. 27:26 In Florida, Daytona Beach is the most, 27:29 well known rally and for the last four years 27:33 Adventist Motorcycle Ministry has been there 27:35 and we send an army of people, an army of people with bags, 27:39 with our name on the bags and in each bag 100 27:42 "Steps to Christ" 27:44 or the "Ride of Your Life" books. 27:46 So we hit the corners and we start meeting people, 27:48 praying with people on the street, 27:49 to know their names 27:50 and each book have a AMM website, 27:55 so they can reconnect to us, 27:57 work with us, what kind of their need is. 28:00 So yeah, it's a challenge, pastor. 28:02 It is a challenge. But it's such a joy time. 28:05 Isn't it, guys? 28:08 We have so much fun 28:09 and I would not change it for anything. 28:11 Praise the Lord. Yeah. 28:12 Now, Laurie, you told the number 300 28:14 before is that 300 in your chapter, 28:17 300 Adventist riders across the United States? 28:19 United States. United States. 28:21 So it's not a big, big number but I suspect growing. 28:24 It's growing. 28:25 Twenty chapters in United States. 28:27 Twenty chapters? 28:28 Yes, sir. Praise the Lord. 28:29 So the number up and down because, you know, what's okay 28:32 but that's why we do this kind of ministry. 28:34 We come to you guys and we want to outreach 28:36 any Seventh-day Adventist rider out there 28:38 who want to join us and will be-- 28:40 want to be part of this army. 28:42 You know, the Lord is calling us to do this 28:44 and I promise you will have fun. 28:47 Yes. Absolutely. 28:49 You consistently talk about having fun. 28:52 I guess riding itself is fun. 28:55 I had a-- my Kawasaki wasn't quite this large, 28:59 I had a KZ1000 but riding is fun. 29:02 You know, as you get older 29:05 you don't heal as fast as you did 29:06 when you are younger 29:07 so my wife has forbidden me to do this anymore. 29:11 But I used to bring my bike to church on Sunday mornings 29:14 and take the pathfinders 29:15 around the block and kind of thing 29:16 and we would have fun. 29:17 And it is-- there is a kind of club 29:20 when you pass somebody on the street 29:21 you will give them-- you know, kind of thing. 29:23 So there is a kind of fun. 29:28 How does one get started or form a chapter 29:31 or find a chapter or join a chapter? 29:34 I'm a biker, I'm an Adventist 29:35 I didn't know there was this kind of ministry. 29:37 How do I connect with you guys 29:38 and maybe start something in my own areas, my own church. 29:43 Well, the most basic will be, you know, 29:45 to see across in the website, 29:48 AdventistMotorcycleMinistry.org and there we follow you. 29:52 You call us, you do email us we will follow up with that. 29:55 We will help you all with the step 29:57 and most of the time and depending how far you are, 30:00 you know, somebody from the administration 30:02 will come to support you 30:04 from the region to open your ministry. 30:07 These rallies that you have are they in every state? 30:10 Oh, pretty much, yeah. 30:12 So you can so-- if you want to 30:13 you can find somewhere to go? 30:14 Oh, yeah. 30:16 How do you at the national level determined 30:18 and we touch some of celebrity before that 30:20 you got this big mega rallies like this one 30:22 you are going to in South Dakota, North Dakota? 30:24 South Dakota. 30:25 South Dakota and then another big one in Florida, 30:27 are they regional, 30:29 are they state wide rallies of this size? 30:32 They're nationwide, Sturgis is nationwide 30:35 and I think international actually too. 30:37 Yeah. Yeah. 30:38 So let me ask you a question 30:40 which is maybe the 800 pound elephant 30:42 in the room we are not talking about. 30:44 Motorcycle gangs have a reputation. 30:48 Some are certainly just groups of people 30:50 who want to ride together 30:51 others have some malevolence stuff going on. 30:54 How do you determine which ones to avoid which-- 30:57 or do you just say listen, I'm taking Christ to the theme, 30:59 going where the people are? 31:01 You know, how do you wrestle with that, Laurie? 31:03 Oh, that's good question. 31:05 Well, if they have a MC on their vests 31:07 it shows that they are motorcycle club 31:09 and so you know that they are club. 31:11 How do we approach them? 31:15 We just talk bikes. 31:16 Like for me I ride a Harley and it's pretty impressive 31:20 when I pull up, it sounds good and you know, 31:22 I am just being honest. 31:23 You know, they love it and they surround the bike. 31:26 Wow, you know, oh, you got cams, 31:28 you know, this and that and we start bikes. 31:30 And that's their interest. 31:31 So I just talk to them about what I know. 31:34 I don't know that much about bikes but I know 31:36 I have a really cool bike and, you know, and they liked it. 31:39 You know, we talk about bikes, 31:40 we talk about riding and before you know, 31:42 you know, the Lord prompts you at the right time 31:45 and my passion like 31:46 I said, is to show the Three Angels' Message 31:48 but we don't go in there with an intention to-- 31:50 you know, we're going there to the intention 31:52 of just being friends and just loving them. 31:54 Because they are-- you know, my experience 31:56 with bikers is that they-- 31:59 biker clubs they kind of hide behind that image 32:03 of the tough guy they have to be, you know, 32:06 rough and tough because they are hiding behind. 32:09 They need family and they are actually to me 32:13 I feel like they are reaching out more than anybody 32:15 and they are winning attention. 32:17 And so, I think the Lord has given me a gift 32:20 to be able to reach their hearts and that's, 32:23 that's what I like to do. 32:24 So it sounds like also you never really felt 32:27 threatened in your association, 32:29 you just kind of take Jesus with and go? 32:31 Amen. Yeah. 32:32 It's always a blessing, yeah. 32:34 Yeah, if I could share a couple-- 32:36 Please do. 32:38 Well, at one events we have-- we did a Bible study, 32:44 it was called "Good Vibrations" 32:46 and you know this young man 32:48 just walked up and he seen the banner 32:50 and he said Adventist Motorcycle Ministry 32:52 and there he is in the t-shirt 32:54 and he said don't you guys go to church on Saturday? 32:57 We said, oh, yeah, yeah. We keep the Sabbath day. 32:59 He said, I read that before in the Bible. 33:02 I said, yeah. 33:03 He said, matter of fact, I think I read somewhere 33:05 that the Roman Catholic church changed it, 33:07 change your Sabbath? 33:08 Oh, wow. 33:10 And I said absolutely. 33:11 He did, that's right they did, you know. 33:13 That's the beast power. 33:14 Well, before you know it 33:16 we sat down and I did a complete Bible study with him 33:18 an hour and half on the Mark of the Beast, 33:21 you know, the Second Coming. 33:23 That's my passion and it comes from God 33:26 because I was not raised with this. 33:28 It just comes out and we bring the Bible 33:30 and we share and pray 33:32 and we actually led him to a church there 33:34 so he started attending church there in that area. 33:37 That's one. 33:39 We have another one just-- you know, 33:42 we witnessed to other bikers but we also witnessed 33:45 to wherever the Lord puts us. 33:47 Sometimes we think we are going to an event 33:49 and you meet someone in a parking lot. 33:53 So for instance we have a picture 33:54 of this young man named-- 33:57 well, this is another one in the parking lot. 33:59 We went-- we are riding to a beautiful area 34:03 where they have beautiful falls 34:05 and we were getting ready to leave 34:06 and this coupled stopped us and they said, 34:09 wow, look at your patch here, you are a Christian. 34:11 We heard your bikes and you know, they stopped 34:13 and want to talk to us and before you know 34:15 we were able to give them a book. 34:16 We prayed with them and you know. 34:20 These people also, 34:22 they just started telling us all about their history. 34:25 He had just gotten out of jail for substance use I believed 34:32 and he just started telling us all about this. 34:37 He had just gotten out of prison or jail whichever 34:39 and his wife was in the car. 34:42 He was telling us she had just 34:43 gotten out of a women's shelter. 34:46 They had just gotten their child back. 34:48 He was in the-- she was in the backseat 34:51 and he started just telling us 34:52 all these because he saw our patches 34:55 that we are a Christian. 34:57 And he was saying that he was wanted to do 34:59 something spiritual and get something going himself 35:02 so that he could get himself and his family back together. 35:06 And that was, we just drove into the parking lot 35:09 and they happened to be beside us. 35:11 Praise the Lord. 35:12 And the loud bikes get people's attention 35:15 and so it automatically it's just immediate, 35:19 it's just amazing to me how quickly people 35:23 will get closer than they normally would 35:26 for if you were just, you know, 35:28 beside them without the bikes. 35:30 So, Laurie, your bike is a loud bike. 35:32 It is. 35:33 Pastor, your bike is a loud one? 35:34 Oh, yeah. 35:36 I tell people when they don't like the loud pipes 35:38 I say, Jesus is not coming quiet, okay? 35:43 With the sound of the trumpet or a loud bike. 35:47 Susan, your husband's bike is a loud bike also? 35:49 No, it's very quiet. 35:51 Praise the Lord. Yes. 35:52 I wanted to-- You have to make sure its running. 35:53 Yes. 35:55 So I think, we think we are gonna get a CD in ours, 35:58 you know, that has the pipes on it 36:00 so that we can turn that up when we get there. 36:02 But we rely on the noise from their. 36:05 From their bikes. Praise the Lord. 36:06 But obviously that attracts people to the Lord. 36:09 With us on the phone is North American Division 36:12 Youth Ministries director, James Black. 36:14 James, are you there? 36:17 I'm here. 36:18 Yeah, I know you are in an airport getting ready 36:20 to get on the plane so thank you for taking 36:21 a moment out of your time. 36:22 Hope, you don't miss your flight. 36:23 But I didn't know having known you for a while, 36:25 I didn't know you are a bike rider, man. 36:28 Yeah, I've got a few secrets in there. 36:31 Evidently. 36:33 How long have you been riding? 36:37 Actually, it's been about 30 years I had a bike 36:40 when I was in college and the wife made me 36:42 get rid of it when we had our first child 36:44 and we had like a 30 year gap and I had this all over again 36:48 so it's been about six or seven years 36:51 I kind of started all over again. 36:52 Yeah, that kind of parallels 36:53 my situation except the start all over again part. 36:57 I didn't do that. 36:59 Tell me about the value of a ministry like this. 37:01 You are director of youth ministries 37:03 and these people who are with me 37:04 on Saturday Night Youth, but they are very youthful. 37:07 But talk to me about the value 37:09 of a particular niche ministry like this. 37:13 You know, motorcycle ministry is a very power ministry. 37:17 What I like about is that of all the forms of evangelism 37:21 not every form will be able to get young people 37:24 or young adults, even adults to come to the local church. 37:28 And through motorcycle ministry it's one of those means 37:31 whereby we can get people 37:32 who are un-churched to come to the church. 37:35 It's like a blessings and other types 37:37 of cleanliness it's like that. 37:40 Okay. 37:41 We know you are in a airport 37:42 so we can accept that little background noise. 37:46 Do you know of any particular people 37:48 in your own work or stories of those 37:52 who have come to the Lord through this ministry? 37:55 Yes. 37:57 We just have an experience about two weeks ago 37:59 the Restoration Praise Center in Bowie, Maryland 38:04 raised a motorcycle bike blessing about three years ago 38:08 and started with about maybe 25 bikers 38:11 and two weeks ago 38:13 we had about 125 bikers in the parking lot 38:16 of the Seventh-day Adventist Church 38:19 pretty much 100 of those non-Adventist 38:22 and God just blessed the thing in a powerful way 38:25 and it's an annual event now and the whole church 38:28 has embraced, the community has embraced it. 38:30 And we are seeing people actually come to church 38:33 now as a result of that motorcycle blessing. 38:35 Praise the Lord. 38:36 So the ministry is having a positive effect. 38:39 We know that you are in an airport, 38:40 you got to get on that plane. 38:42 Thank you so very much, man. 38:44 Good to hear from you and keep on riding. 38:48 I sure will. Well, thank you. 38:49 You got some great people there on the stage with you. 38:51 God bless you. Guys, see you in Sturgis. 38:53 Amen. 38:56 Praise the Lord. So he is coming to Sturgis? 38:59 Yes. 39:00 Excellent. Excellent. Excellent. 39:02 Are there a number of Adventist administrators, 39:04 Adventist pastors that are motorcycle riders? 39:09 In Florida? Yeah, yes. 39:10 We got Pastor Idalberto Torres, 39:13 we got Pastor Rolando de los Rios, 39:15 we got Pastor-- I said Orlando Lopez, 39:19 Idaberto, Dai-Kimi and Dan Rolando, 39:21 yeah, four pastors. 39:23 Wow. 39:25 Not everybody attend at the same time. 39:26 But instead. Yeah. 39:27 Yeah. Yeah. 39:28 But they are totally supporting this. 39:29 Yeah, praise the Lord. 39:30 You Latino guys are pretty interpret, 39:31 that is great. 39:32 That is really great stuff. Yeah. 39:34 Talk to me a little bit more about Sturgis, 39:36 what you plan on doing? 39:38 A group this big how many Adventist 39:41 do you think will descend on Sturgis? 39:43 That is hard to tell. 39:46 However I'm looking forward to finding 39:50 some former Adventist there because I have noticed 39:54 that when we go to other rallies 39:57 we find former Adventist. 39:59 In fact, when we were in what they call 40:01 the Oyster Run last fall 40:04 I was wondering through the people 40:07 and I was supposed to be going back to the booth 40:09 but I was impress to try another route 40:11 so I did and people were so thick on the sidewalk 40:16 that you had to walk like this to get through people. 40:19 Yeah. 40:20 And so I was surprised 40:23 when I felt a tap on my shoulder 40:26 and I looked around and it was a man and he said, 40:30 are you Adventist? 40:32 And I said, well, yes I am. 40:34 And he said, and you ride a bike? 40:37 I said well, yes, I do. 40:39 He said, I don't believe it. 40:41 I would never believe 40:43 an Adventist would be riding bikes to a rally. 40:46 And so we got to talking and we found-- 40:49 I found that he was a Vietnam vet, 40:53 he had been raised in Adventist home, 40:56 he had been schooled in Adventist schools, 41:01 and he went to the Vietnam War. 41:05 I could tell by looking at him that he probably 41:08 had someone like, something like PGST 41:10 something like that. 41:12 And we got to talking right amongst crowded 41:15 with these other people 41:18 and he was so impressed 41:23 that Adventist would be there at a rally. 41:26 We stopped and had prayer 41:27 right amongst all these people 41:29 and I said, would you believe 41:30 there are more people here too? 41:32 So we went and saw the other people in the booth 41:35 and he was very touched about it. 41:37 Wow. Praise God. 41:38 And I was thrilled, you know, and so I expect in Sturgis 41:42 to find some other Adventists 41:44 and if we wear our ID on our back they will notice 41:48 when they see us who we are. 41:49 Now, I'm very impressed of that 41:51 is this something that happens often? 41:53 Do you find many Adventists occasional, 41:57 frequent is this something happens very, very, 41:59 you know, very much? 42:00 At another rally we were just standing 42:03 there looking at whatever activity was there 42:07 and my husband was standing with me 42:10 and somebody slapped him on the back 42:12 and said happy Sabbath. 42:15 He had had to be an Adventist and he just kept on walking. 42:19 He didn't want to talk or anything 42:21 but it was very obvious, he knew. 42:22 Yeah. 42:23 Well, that's inside lingo, happy Sabbath. 42:26 Yes. Praise the Lord. 42:27 And so sometimes just that touch, you know, 42:29 that hated somebody else 42:30 out there just like, just like me. 42:32 Now what did it say on the back? 42:33 I didn't get to see the back that identifies you. 42:36 Your's say Adventist Motorcycle Ministry 42:38 on the front very close but what's on the back? 42:42 Okay. 42:44 Now, pastor just stand and then turn around. 42:47 Can we get, can you push in on that, on that rough? 42:50 There we go. 42:51 So you can see very clearly 42:53 there is a Adventist logo and Miami, Florida, 42:56 Adventist Motorcycle Ministry. 42:57 So it's very, very-- Thank you, pastor. 43:00 Very, very clear that 43:03 who you are and what you stand for. 43:06 Now you mentioned to me that 43:07 there are motorcycle camp meetings. 43:10 Are these regional, state-wide, where are they, 43:12 when do they happen? 43:13 Walk me through that. 43:16 Okay. 43:19 Well, we have one in Florida. We have one in Florida. 43:21 Every year we have our camp meeting-- 43:26 James Black, was our speaker last time 43:28 and we had about 75-80 bikers from Oakwood College, 43:34 we got from Tennessee. 43:36 We had, they came from Oregon, 43:39 you know, and the Floridian people, 43:41 you know the home guest. 43:43 He will say women the great one of the better camp meeting, 43:47 best camp meeting I've been in my last few years. 43:50 Praise the Lord. 43:51 That's very spiritual, rides were great 43:54 and the moment you know, 43:55 I can say that it was a total success 43:57 and blessing, you know. 43:58 Praise the Lord. 43:59 What time of the year you have it, summer? 44:01 Yes. Yes. 44:02 If can anybody attend, even a non-biker 44:06 or is it kind of strictly for bikers? 44:07 No, everybody is welcomed. Everyone is welcomed. 44:09 Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. 44:11 Do you have anything like that out west? 44:13 Yes. 44:14 We have it one in our North Conference. 44:18 North Pacific. 44:19 North Pacific Conference. 44:21 One is held there. 44:23 This will our fifth year I believe 44:26 and yeah, 44:28 we have about 75-80 that come 44:31 and we invite friends and, yeah, it's really great. 44:34 We've had Pastor James Black there, 44:36 we've had John Reaves and it's a really nice event. 44:39 We have workshops 44:40 and you go on rides and fellowship. 44:43 Yeah, it's wonderful. 44:44 One of the things people tell me 44:45 when they talk about motorcycle clubs 44:47 and motorcycle gangs is that they provide 44:50 for a person who maybe a down-- 44:53 and maybe that's a wrong term, 44:54 but someone who maybe alienated, marginalized. 44:57 It gives them a sense of family. 44:59 Do you feel that in the Adventist 45:01 motorcycle circle that there is a sense of comrade, 45:04 the sense of family? 45:06 Yes. 45:07 Yeah, actually we just recently did 45:10 and another picture that I wanted to show 45:11 is a couple that we went to visit Brad and Kyra. 45:15 They were in the Adventist Church 45:17 and they had kind of slipped away 45:18 and they started riding with another group, 45:20 non-Christian group. 45:22 And we wanted to love them back into the church. 45:25 We went to visit them, they are about three hours 45:27 south from us and there is a picture of them. 45:30 They are in the middle there and you know, 45:33 we made a special trip to go down and see them 45:36 because in this group that they were riding with 45:39 they actually went down on their bike 45:40 and had a horrible accident. 45:42 And he is pretty much disabled for life. 45:46 And so we wanted to go and visit them, you know, 45:49 pray with them, go to their church, 45:50 support them because he is still having 45:52 a lot of problems. 45:53 And we took up a little collection of, 45:55 you know, money for them and prayed with them 45:58 and it just-- I mean, it just made their life, 46:00 it made their world that we cared enough. 46:02 And so we are encouraging them 46:03 to open a chapter because even he doesn't ride 46:06 he can open a chapter, you know. 46:08 So when you talk about ministry, 46:10 this is really ministry. 46:11 They are very strong, 46:12 very different ministerial aspects to this. 46:15 Not only to the wider evangelistic world 46:18 but within the group itself 46:19 you are ministering to each other? 46:20 Yeah and it's not always motorcycles 46:22 like we were saying before. 46:24 Have another photo of a gentleman we met 46:26 in a parking lot on the way. 46:30 His name is Brandon and on the way 46:33 to go see Brad and Kyra we were-- 46:36 we stayed at a hotel and we get up in the morning 46:39 and you know, these kids are out, you know, 46:40 looking at the bikes and stuff and of course 46:42 when I went out and started mine, like, 46:43 wow, you know, where did you got that? 46:46 You know, so we started talking 46:47 and you know, I went to give him a book, 46:50 one of the "Steps to Christ" books there. 46:52 He said, oh, no, no. 46:53 I don't believe. I said, you are kidding me. 46:55 You don't believe in the world we live in today? 46:57 Seriously? I said, okay, what do you believe? 46:59 He said, oh, no, I'm kind of agnostic, 47:01 I really don't. 47:02 I said well, explain that to me what does that mean? 47:05 What is your belief? 47:06 And I think we have a picture of him in the parking lot. 47:11 His name is Brandon. 47:12 Anyway so we got to talking and before you make a-- 47:16 you know, before you make a long story short, 47:18 here he-- there he is. 47:19 I ended up doing a Bible study with him 47:22 right there in the parking lot 47:23 and gave him a book and we also prayed with him 47:26 and I continually pray for him because he understood once 47:29 I started sharing things from the word 47:31 then it made sense to him and he was like, 47:33 oh, I never heard that before. 47:36 You know, the Bible says that if you, 47:37 you know, if you are gonna burn 47:39 you are gonna burn and you just gonna burn up, 47:41 you are not gonna burn forever and ever. 47:43 He said, really? 47:44 So we shared that. 47:45 And that's to me that's a blessing. 47:46 That's what I love to do. 47:47 So the bike does give you opportunities 47:49 for evangelism, for witness? 47:50 Yeah. It's a tour. 47:51 We're missing it say, 47:52 bike would have baptize in pool. 47:54 Yeah, exactly. 47:56 You have-- Maybe she hook up something 47:59 on her back to drag along with, 48:00 you could baptize them right on the spot. 48:01 Yes. 48:02 I think we've got another Skype call. 48:05 All right, this is Juan Santos 48:07 and he is the national president 48:10 and he is a detective. 48:11 He is a law enforcement. 48:13 Detective Santos, are you with us? 48:16 Yes. How are you, Pastor Murray? 48:18 We are well. 48:19 We are well and it's good to hear your voice. 48:21 Now we know you just finished a long shift working 48:25 and so we are keeping you 48:27 from your beauty nap, man, we apologize. 48:29 But tell me how long have you been 48:32 with Adventist Motorcycle Ministries? 48:36 I've been with the ministry since 2008 actually 48:38 when they first formed I was invited to sitting 48:43 in their first-- one of the first 48:45 organizational meetings where we loaded on 48:49 the color of the patch, the design, 48:52 and how we are gonna name ourselves. 48:56 And ever since then it's been awesome experience 49:00 that has helped us and me personally and my family 49:04 a great deal has been, it's been a wonderful ride, 49:08 no fun intended. 49:10 No fun intended. 49:11 It would go on, it goes on 49:13 in the Adventist Motorcycle Ministry. 49:16 Has it been rewarding to you to see the growth 49:19 of this ministry and how it has spread out 49:21 not only across the country but across the world? 49:24 It has. 49:25 Rewarding it's an under statement to say the least. 49:29 It's been, it's been incredible how a simple idea 49:33 got so much fire behind it and the only thing 49:38 I could achievable to is in fact, that God 49:41 directed this and that the Holy Spirit took over. 49:44 It ain't by nobody's one person hard work 49:49 but if not by the grace of God 49:51 that we have been able to 49:53 touched so many lives and done so many things. 49:57 It's been an incredible journey. 49:59 Praise the Lord. 50:00 You know, when we think of motorcyclist 50:02 in general we think of outlaws 50:04 but you are a member of law enforcement 50:06 and we praise the Lord for that. 50:07 Before we let you go and our time is running out, 50:09 do you have any particular testimonies 50:11 or stories that sort of pop out in your mind 50:14 of how God has used this ministry? 50:16 Yes. 50:17 Actually a one quick one 50:19 that very first Daytona mission trip that we did, 50:24 we did Daytona mission we gave up books 50:26 "Steps to Christ" the motorcycle edition 50:30 and my wife, my daughters 50:32 who were extremely, extremely shy individuals 50:35 they were out there just giving books, 50:38 witnessing to people. 50:40 We had a young lady come over 50:41 and just walk over, began to talk to us 50:46 and she actually by the end of the day 50:49 gave her life to Christ and that just gave us so much, 50:54 it's just such a boost of doing God's work as we-- 50:58 He actually showed us how He was using 51:02 that ministry to be able to touch that one life 51:05 and if it was only for that one life 51:06 it was 100 percent worth it. 51:08 And so we were so blessed and moved by it 51:12 that I had to-- that we just continue on. 51:15 And again if you meet my family, 51:17 my daughters don't talk. 51:18 You know, if you got teenagers they will talk to nobody, 51:20 but come mission, they're out there, 51:23 mingling with people, talking to people, 51:25 witnessing to people, giving them books. 51:27 I seen how God literally changed their lives 51:30 just by be able to, you know, through the ministry 51:35 be able to witness to others. 51:36 It's an incredible, really incredible 51:38 touching thing for us, for me personally. 51:41 I've never seen my family that way 51:42 so I thank God, that He used us to be able 51:45 to use them and give them that purpose 51:50 of what we are supposed to be doing. 51:52 Praise the Lord. 51:53 Real quick, how long does the presidency last for? 51:57 How long are you-- is your term? 52:00 It's for four years, this is my last year 52:04 and so yeah, every four years we elect a new leader 52:09 so-- for me it's been an incredible journey, 52:12 incredible trip of complete honor 52:15 and a privilege to be able to serve as president. 52:18 And so I thank the Lord 52:20 for that opportunity that He gave us. 52:22 Thank you so very, very much, Juan. 52:25 God bless you and Lord keep you safe 52:27 as you do your job in law enforcement. 52:30 Thank you so much. 52:32 Take care guys, love you all. 52:33 What I want to do just now before our time 52:36 is out is to go to the contact roll, 52:38 the address roll and the information. 52:40 Should you want to make contact with this ministry 52:43 to support it, to find out about a chapter near you, 52:45 to attend a rally, to speak with any 52:47 of these wonderful people who are sitting by me just now? 52:51 Should you want to make contact with 52:53 Adventist Motorcycle Ministry, 52:54 here is how you can do precisely that. 52:59 Adventist Motorcycle Ministry 53:01 reaches hundreds of thousands of bikers 53:03 around the world who may otherwise 53:05 never know the message of salvation. 53:07 If you would like to know more about this ministry 53:10 you may write to them at AMM, P.O. Box 173535, 53:16 in Tampa, Florida, 33672. 53:20 That's AMM, P.O. Box 173535, 53:24 in Tampa, Florida, 33672. 53:28 You may also call them at 813-323-5215 53:33 or visit them online at 53:35 AdventistMotorcycleMinistry.org. 53:39 That's AdventistMotorcycleMinistry.org. 53:45 All right, that's the contact information 53:47 that you will need and you really need 53:48 to make contact with, with this group particularly 53:52 if you are an ex-Adventist 53:54 who rides or you know some people who ride, 53:56 who you may want to reach out to 53:58 and there is a brotherhood, there is a lingo, 54:01 a language that perhaps a non rider cannot have 54:05 that those who ride and are part of this family 54:07 can reach out in a very special way. 54:09 And they are telling me you don't have to be Adventist 54:12 but you want to associate with some Christians, 54:15 some good clean wholesome riding Christian fun 54:18 you can, you can be part of this. 54:21 Now, Susan, you've got a little burden that we need 54:23 to give you a minute or two to talk about. 54:24 I do. Thank you. 54:27 Some people ask, 54:28 why we would even go to Sturgis? 54:31 Because you know, it's a place 54:33 where some people say it's wild 54:36 and are a little hesitant to go to something like that 54:39 but my reason is because of the women there. 54:45 The women in the clubs, 54:49 I've learned a little bit about them. 54:52 They might have started in the clubs when they were, 54:56 you know, thinking it was an adventure 54:58 and they wanted to have fun and things. 55:01 But after they have been in there well, 55:02 they realized that they are actually, 55:05 they are people's property. 55:07 They are the property of the clubs 55:09 and kind of slaves to the clubs. 55:13 And it can be to the whole club or whatever 55:17 and there are many that want to escape 55:23 and they have a very difficult time to. 55:25 But I see the picture 55:27 that was just on there and if you noticed 55:30 the ladies picture it says property of. 55:35 They even wear on their backs 55:37 that they are the property of that club. 55:39 And I just have a real burden 55:42 for those women to be able to reach them 55:46 because they have a difficult time. 55:48 Men cannot talk with them. 55:50 They are not allowed to talk with them, 55:52 only women can. 55:54 So you got a very special ministry. 55:55 I have a very special burden on my heart for these women. 55:58 In fact, I'm praying for the Lord to prepare 56:01 whoever He has prepared for me to meet at Sturgis 56:06 because I want to find one of those girls 56:09 and make friends with her. 56:10 And that is just a real burden on my heart 56:14 to do the women because we usually think of the men 56:18 but we see the women but I just have a burden 56:22 for them the more I find out about them. 56:26 Very good, Susan. 56:27 You know, it occurs to me, 56:29 you know, that there is an element of danger 56:30 in what you do. 56:32 There is. 56:33 Because you are going into unknown territory. 56:35 Now agreed the angel of the Lord encamps around 56:37 about them there for Him, to deliver. 56:39 So you are taking the name of Jesus with you 56:41 but we need to keep them in prayer. 56:43 This ministry needs to be bathed in prayer 56:45 because at any time 56:46 as we've seen recently things can happen. 56:49 Now, need to say this, 56:50 are you going to be at General Conference? 56:51 Yes. And we look to see you there. 56:52 You all be there? Yes. 56:53 So we will come by and shake hands 56:55 and that kind of thing. 56:56 Keep them in prayer and support this ministry. 56:58 Well, our time has fast slipped into eternity. 57:01 Allow me now in closing to wish 57:02 you both grace and peace 57:04 through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 57:05 We will see you again soon. 57:06 Bye-bye and God bless. 57:09 Amen. |
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