I want to spend
my life Spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words Let my word
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken
people Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to 3ABN today.
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My name is C.A. Murray
and allow me once again
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to thank you for
sharing just a little of your
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no doubt very busy day with us
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and to thank you as always
for your love, your prayers
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and your support
of 3ABN as a ministry
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that seeks to lift up the mighty
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and matchless name of Jesus.
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And we realize that we could
not do what we are called to do
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without your partnership
and without your support.
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So again we thank you.
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And I want you to kind of
draw closer to television set
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as-- we're gonna have fun.
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First of all this is
gonna be a fun program.
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We got some really neat
guests, some really cool people
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that I have known to come
to love even as we just met
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for just a little bit
and we are gonna talk about
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what I would
call a niche ministry.
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This is a particular ministry
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targeted to a
particular set of people that--
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when you are
thinking about ministries
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that the church
can function in and do,
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you may not think
of this as a ministry
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but we've got
three people to tell you
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that this is a fast
growing and a wonderful ministry
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and if you saw on
the jib shot coming in
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you saw this motorcycle here
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behind this
wonderful Kawasaki 1400
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that's backing us up.
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We are gonna talk
about motorcycle ministry,
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"Adventist Motorcycle Ministry."
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Just-- first of all
to start the fun subject
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and I've got some
really fun people.
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I'm gonna start
with Pastor Juan Garcia.
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Pastor, good to have you here.
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Good to be here, pastor.
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And he is sitting
next to Laurie Olson.
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The lovely Laurie
Olson. Good to have you here.
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And Susan Armstrong is
anchoring our guest role.
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These are all
riders, these are all
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part of this ministry
and their dress bespeaks,
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their dress betreyeth them.
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The dress bespeaks
that they are part of
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not only the ministry but
they are riders, all three.
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Some in the front end
and one on the backend
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but they are, they
are all on motorcycle.
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So we are gonna talk
about what this ministry is,
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what this ministry does,
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how you can help
with this ministry,
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the kinds of successes
that the ministry is having.
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It's gonna be a really fun hour
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that we are gonna spend together
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and then we have some
Skype calls we are gonna do
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and we are gonna down
to Brazil in just a moment
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because this ministry
pastor has chapters where?
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Let me know where.
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Well, we have in eight
international countries so far.
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So Brazil, Australia,
Nepal, Pakistan, India.
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Wow! So we are growing.
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Hungary, you
know. Praise the Lord.
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Now before we go to our
music I need to talk to you
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just to gather the history.
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Pastor, you are from where?
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I'm from Puerto Rico.
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From Puerto Rico, all
right. Praise the Lord.
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Amen.
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Now, how long
you have been riding.
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Wow, since I was in high school.
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I always liked the bike
and use it to go to school,
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then I went to college
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in Seventh-day Adventist
college in Puerto Rico.
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I did
motorcycle up the mountain,
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then I become a pastor
and then I ride my bike
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to the
conference wherever you go.
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It was part of me. Yes.
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So when you came to this
you always kept on riding.
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Yeah.
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You know, as you
mature and you progress
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you upgrade your bike,
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that's important in
this culture, you know.
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So I did serve to
pastor. Praise the Lord.
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You came into
the ministry riding,
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did you know that AMM
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even existed back in those days?
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No. Yeah.
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Praise the Lord.
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Laurie, you are
from Oregon. Yes.
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I'm told.
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Did you grow up
in Adventist home?
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No, not all.
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How did you come to the Lord?
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Oh, boy, that's a
big, that's a big question.
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Oh, give me the
Readers Digest version.
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Well, I would just say
that I had been searching
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for God all my life.
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I know He has always been there
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and went to evangelistic
series that we had in our town
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and do some Bible studies
and the Lord delivered me
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from my smoking addiction.
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For 35 years I smoked
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about two, two
and half packs a day.
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You must have started as a baby?
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I was nine years old.
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Yeah, I didn't grow up
in a Christian home at all.
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I grew up in a
very secular home.
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We have
motorcycles and actually have
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some gang members in our family.
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So I was kind of used to
that kind of seeing and so--
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anyways, you know, the
Lord had a calling for me
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and He delivered from
that and other things.
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So I'm
thankful. Praise the Lord.
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So you again riding
before you became Adventist?
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Well, I was-- I rode
dirt bikes growing up
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with my brother but I
never rode street bikes.
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My husband and I
when we were married
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back in let's see 99 he
wanted to get a motorcycle
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and I said, well, you better two
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because I'm not
riding on the back.
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So, we are
riding ever since. Okay.
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Now speaking of
riding on the back--
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Susan Armstrong,
you are from where?
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I'm from Oregon also.
Boy, another Oregonian.
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Yes.
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Did you grow up
in Adventist home?
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Yes, I did.
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We finally got a
classic Adventist here.
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Now were you riding
before you became Adventist or?
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Well, I was three months
old when I became Adventist
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by my parents was.
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No, I was not riding until--
my husband actually has a--
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he enjoys it and I go
along because he enjoys it
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and I want to be with him.
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But then really what brought
me into really enjoying it
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as when I found out that
this is not a motorcycle club,
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it is a
ministry and that made me
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very much supported
and it's just unbelievable.
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Yeah, I want to un-package that,
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that is not a
motorcycle club, it's a ministry
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and there is a difference.
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So you are all actively involved
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in the ministry end of this.
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Now I got to get your
titles right because, Pastor,
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you are the executive
vice-president of AMM.
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Is that for AMM
worldwide, AMM North America?
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Worldwide. Worldwide, okay.
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And Laurie is the
national secretary.
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Yes. Well, praise the Lord.
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And Susan is a
secretary of the Oregon chapter.
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Yes.
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Okay. Praise the Lord.
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We've got that,
we got that right.
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And also-- Also
national treasure.
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That's very important.
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Yes, sir.
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We don't want to leave that out.
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That is very, very important.
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And I want to walk through
the kinds of ministries that
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that you are involved
in and what makes this
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a tool in the hand of God.
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So it's AMM, that's what we're
gonna be talking about today,
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that is the burden
of our hour together.
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Before we un-package
their stories further
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we want to go to our
music which comes to us
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all the way from Australia.
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Every now and then
Sandra makes her way here
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to the States and we
always, we are very happy
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when she does come
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because she is such a fun person
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and such a lovely
Christian and a gifted singer
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and she is going to be
singing "You Gave Me Love."
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You gave me time
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When no one gave me time of day
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You looked deep inside
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While the rest of
the world looked away
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You smiled at me
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When there weren't
just friends everywhere
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You gave me love
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When nobody gave me a prayer
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That's why I call You Savior
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That's why I call You friend
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You touched my heart
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You touched my soul
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And helped me
start all over again
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That's why I love You Jesus
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That's why I'll always care
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You gave me love
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When nobody gave me a prayer
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You gave me laughter
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After I cried all my tears
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You heard my dreams
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While the rest of
the world closed its ears
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I looked in Your eyes
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And I found
such tenderness there
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You gave me love
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When nobody gave me a prayer
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And that's why I call You Savior
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That's why I call You friend
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'Cause You touched my heart
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You touched my soul
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And helped me
start all over again
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And that's why I love You Jesus
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That's why I'll always care
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You gave me love
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When nobody gave me a prayer
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And that's why I call You Savior
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That's why I call You friend
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You touched my heart
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You touched my soul
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And helped me
start all over again
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That's why I love You Jesus
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That's why I'll always care
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You gave me love
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When nobody gave me a prayer
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Thank you so very
much, Sandra Entermann.
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"You Gave Me Love"
so very, very well done.
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My guests are
Pastor Juan Garcia,
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Laurie Olson, Susan Armstrong.
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They all of Adventist
Motorcycle Ministries.
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Now, as you said to
us a bit ago, Pastor,
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that this is an
international ministry
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with chapters in
several countries.
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We have on our Skype line...
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some
representatives from Brazil.
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And let me get this correct,
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first of all
Pastor Natal is here.
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Are you with us, Pastor?
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Yes, can you hear me?
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I can hear you quite
well. Thank you so very much.
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Now the conference
president is there also
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and that's Pastor William Cesar.
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Pastor, are you there?
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Yep.
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Praise the Lord.
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Pastor Natal, tell me
what conference that you are,
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you are representing.
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We are in the
South Parana Conference
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because Parana is a
state of Brazil in the south.
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So this is the
South Parana Conference.
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Alrighty.
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Now the representative or
the chapter president is--
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is it Leomar.
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Leomar, Leomar
Gehrke. Are you there?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Praise t he Lord.
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It's good to have you
three gentlemen with us.
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I need to ask are there many
motorcycle riders in Brazil?
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In Brazil, we have 376 members.
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Praise the Lord. And
which one we call Steps.
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There are people who
are not Adventist yet
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but they are riding
with people and they are,
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will be soon baptized.
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Praise the Lord.
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So your ministry is actually
an evangelistic ministry,
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is that not so?
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Totally. Totally evangelistic.
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Now, Pastor Natal, I'm
told that you are getting
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great support
from the conference.
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Is that so? Yes.
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Yes, my president is here
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because we have a great support
and Leomar and his ministry
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they really are
working, they ride,
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the invite
people to ride with them
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and they distribute books,
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Ellen White books
with a different cover.
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Can I show you, guys?
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Please do.
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This is a "Steps to Christ"
but with a different cover.
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It has a motorbike
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and Jesus appears in the mirror.
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It is very interesting
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because Brazil is
a Christian place,
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you know, this
attracts a lot of people.
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and the message is the same,
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it's "Steps to
Christ" from Ellen White.
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Excellent. We have that here.
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Would you ask
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the conference president for me,
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how he feels about
this kind of ministry
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and the value of
this kind of ministry?
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When members are involved
in any kind of ministry we did,
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the goal of
saving people from sin
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this is very
relevant for the church.
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Very good.
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Would you tell us
please just some of the things
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we're asking Leomar
now, some of the things that
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the ministry is
doing specifically
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to bring people to Christ.
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One of the things
they are going to secular
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meetings of motor bikers
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and they are going
now next month to Brazil,
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capital of Brazil to
the second major meeting
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on motor bikers in the
world and they have a stand
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and they will distribute
books and some information.
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The last year they
distributed 7,000 books.
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This year they have a goal
to distribute 10,000 books.
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Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
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Praise the Lord.
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Could you give us some idea
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of how many
people have been baptized
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into the church since
the ministry has begun?
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In two years, 22 people.
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Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
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That's good evangelism.
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That is evangelism.
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And they have a
motto, they have a slogan
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that I love to hear.
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Their slogan is something like,
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"Doing what you have to
do in the way you enjoy."
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Oh, praise the Lord.
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We like that. Say
that again, pastor.
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Say it one more time.
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"Doing what I have to
do but in the way I enjoy."
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I like that. I like that.
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Yeah. That's a
good Christian motto.
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Doing what you have to
do but do it in the way that
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you enjoy it so that
you keep on doing it.
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Gentlemen, thank
you so very much.
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We've got some
more calls to make
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and I want to
talk to my guest here,
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so we can't keep you too long.
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But thank you so very much
for being part of this ministry
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and for lifting up
Jesus there is Brazil.
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Amen. Praise
the Lord. Thank you.
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God bless you. God bless you.
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God bless. Bye-bye.
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That's exciting.
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It is. Yeah.
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Now I suspect that you
guys do some of the same kinds
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of things in the States.
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Let me talk to Laurie
for just a little bit.
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Out there in Oregon what
are the some of the kinds
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of events that you hold
and the things that you do
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to try to get the
name of Jesus out there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so we attend rallies also,
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secular rallies
and we set up booths
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and we pass out the
literature that you see here
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but we also walk
along and we try to mingle
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with the crowds and
try to build relationships.
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You know, get to know
people and befriend them
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and the Lord just
always gives us an opportunity
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to share the
Three Angels' Messages
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which is what I love to do.
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And we also, we
help the homeless.
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We have a program where we
help the homeless in Oregon.
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We adopt families for Christmas.
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We visit people
that have fallen away
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from the church, riders.
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We get together, we
pray, we visit churches.
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We have church visits and,
you know, fellowship and ride.
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We love to ride
so-- Praise the Lord.
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Let me ask you this because
when we think motorcyclists,
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you know, there is this stigma.
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Matter of fact we just recently
had this incident in Waco.
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One, when you guys
show up at a secular rally,
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is your presence
accepted, is it resented,
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how are you received
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because you are
brining Christ with you?
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Is that something
that people are open to
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or is they are resistance?
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Kind of walk me through that.
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Maybe we will
start with you, Susan.
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That is one exciting thing to me
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that I was not expecting.
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Because you know, when we come,
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we put our ID on our backs
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and they know who we
are and what we stand for.
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And people come to
you and start asking
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about spiritual things.
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That's what's
been very exciting.
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To me they are not, I
mean, they don't beat around
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the bush, they just go right to,
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you know, I need
prayer or something like
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that has been
very impressive to me.
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I-- you know, you might be if--
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normally as a Christian we,
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we try to
behave like a Christian
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and we might not tell
people we are but with this
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they see it automatically
and it gets people to talking.
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Praise the
Lord. Praise God. Yes.
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You praise God.
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I want to talk about your dress,
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you know, because
there is this characteristic
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"motorcycle" kind of dress
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and you got the
leather jackets on
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and there is a lot of
pins and patches and all,
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you know, kind
of things going on.
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Glad the see the
pastor got his cross
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prominently displayed.
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Laurie, see your name is
there and you got your AMM
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prominently displayed.
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Is this kind of
a more of a formal,
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you got the white shirt
on, you got the little tag
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and little vest
and a little pants,
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you know, which I like.
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This is kind of a
more formal kind of a deal.
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Right.
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This is
Sabbath. This is Sabbath.
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This is
Sabbath. This is Sabbath.
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This is Sabbath
dress. Praise the Lord.
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For the church, these
are our church clothes.
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You dressed up to come to 3ABN.
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Yes. Praise the Lord.
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This one, she feels
like saying happy Sabbath.
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Yes, I do.
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What are the little patches
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and all these
other little things mean?
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Just little things you are
gonna pick up along the way?
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Well, when we go to
rallies we can get little pins
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if we want to
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and then we bought
some Christian patches.
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I like the Christian patches
like we like to wear here.
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"Be an organ donor
give your heart to Jesus."
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And different things like that.
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It's interesting,
it intrigues people.
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They like to read them.
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Where and when did
AMM actually began?
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Does anybody
know when this thing
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actually got started, Pastor?
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Well, we were
born in October of 2008
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Fort Myers, Florida.
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These-- this ministry
began in the mind of a layperson
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and that excites
me because you know,
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our ministry started
out in the mind of pastors
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but in the mind of
laypeople, you know,
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and Miguel Dominguez,
you know, came with this idea
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because he belong
to another association,
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motorcycle association.
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Say, why we don't
have something like that?
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So he spoke to
Pastor Orlando Lopez
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and Idaberto Torrez in
the conference camp meeting
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and they brought
the news to me in Miami
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and we start
boarding and in October 2008
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we got together
with an 70 bikers
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in the little church in
the West coast of Florida.
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So began in Florida?
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Yes, sir. With a Latino guy?
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Yes, sir. Praise the Lord.
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Yes, sir.
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And from there is
being an amazing, you know,
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we discuss the
name-- first of all
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it was the Adventist
Motorcycle Association
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but we ended up
with the ministry part.
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And as I said it's been a hit,
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it'd been
accepted all over the world
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and the callers, we love that
00:22:32.02\00:22:34.42
the North American
Division sponsor us.
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You know, we
ask them to do that.
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So they took the
risk to allow us to carry
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the name and the
logo at their same colors.
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Yeah.
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And that was so
exciting for us, you know.
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So I was
telling Laurie here that
00:22:46.80\00:22:49.64
sometime I ride my bike
with no, what do you call,
00:22:49.67\00:22:53.09
no identification and I'm
a Christian still, you know.
00:22:53.12\00:22:55.84
But when I wear this collar
00:22:56.10\00:22:57.57
and when I wear
the name of my church
00:22:57.60\00:22:59.32
and you know, I
step up and saying
00:22:59.35\00:23:01.37
I have to be a better
rider, more better behaved.
00:23:01.40\00:23:03.87
I'm sorry, sorry to
say, but it's true, you know.
00:23:03.90\00:23:06.70
And this magic happened,
now this mystery happened
00:23:06.73\00:23:10.53
when our members
all around the world
00:23:10.56\00:23:12.45
wear our collars and our name.
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Praise the Lord.
00:23:14.18\00:23:15.56
So this has full
sponsorship all away to the top
00:23:15.59\00:23:18.21
of the North American Division?
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Yes, sir. Praise the Lord.
00:23:19.35\00:23:20.53
Praise God. And praise God.
00:23:20.56\00:23:22.02
That is so wonderful.
00:23:22.05\00:23:24.36
So you guys found out about it,
00:23:24.39\00:23:26.52
did it kind of
excite you that the church
00:23:26.55\00:23:28.76
actually had
something that you could do
00:23:28.79\00:23:30.78
what you love but also marry
that with evangelism for Jesus?
00:23:30.81\00:23:34.43
Absolutely.
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Yeah. It's exciting.
00:23:35.53\00:23:37.60
Yeah, I'm sure it is.
00:23:37.63\00:23:39.57
Tell me a little bit,
Laurie and Susan, quickly
00:23:39.60\00:23:42.15
about the kinds of things--
in fact, let me go to this.
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You said before
and this touched me
00:23:45.57\00:23:48.55
that this is not a
club it's a ministry.
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Let's wrestle with
that just a little bit.
00:23:52.12\00:23:53.69
I want all three of
you to weighing on this.
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What separates this from
00:23:55.16\00:23:56.58
what would be a motorcycle
club to a motorcycle ministry?
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In your minds,
what's the difference?
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Before we start we
always have prayer.
00:24:05.25\00:24:08.66
We ask the Lord to go with us.
00:24:08.69\00:24:10.28
We are prepared with literature
that we want to give to people.
00:24:10.31\00:24:14.41
We are-- we actually do mingle
00:24:14.44\00:24:17.34
with the people a lot,
with the purpose of making
00:24:17.37\00:24:20.36
ourselves available
00:24:20.39\00:24:21.49
so that people
can see our patches.
00:24:21.52\00:24:24.40
Because we are going there
with the idea of ministering
00:24:24.43\00:24:27.98
to somebody and finding
00:24:28.01\00:24:29.46
whoever might need it, you know.
00:24:29.49\00:24:33.32
Pastor, you
agree? Laurie, you agree?
00:24:33.35\00:24:34.41
Of course, yes.
00:24:34.44\00:24:35.47
That one advantage
is to see we have fun.
00:24:35.50\00:24:38.45
There is no doubt with
that but our ride is a mission
00:24:38.48\00:24:44.12
and then and that
makes of a ministry.
00:24:44.15\00:24:48.40
You know, we, every
time we get together
00:24:48.43\00:24:50.25
we are going with the
purpose of reach somebody,
00:24:50.28\00:24:54.36
pass it somebody,
make friends with stranger
00:24:54.39\00:24:57.63
and later become family.
00:24:57.66\00:24:59.11
You know, what I'm saying?
00:24:59.14\00:25:00.20
If they come and
hangout with these people here
00:25:00.23\00:25:02.79
how we eat, how we
speak, how we have fun,
00:25:02.82\00:25:05.40
you know, and you don't
see there all these things.
00:25:05.43\00:25:07.58
You know, what I'm saying? Yes.
00:25:07.61\00:25:08.64
They really want to joins us
00:25:08.67\00:25:10.63
and that's the
experience we've been finding.
00:25:10.66\00:25:11.95
Yes, praise God.
00:25:11.98\00:25:13.05
That's why I like
the logo from Brazil,
00:25:13.08\00:25:15.14
doing what is fun.
00:25:15.17\00:25:16.53
Yeah, I like
that. Yeah, I like that.
00:25:16.56\00:25:18.98
That is a great thing.
00:25:19.01\00:25:23.07
Coming to the Lord,
serving Lord on this wise
00:25:23.10\00:25:28.34
give me some idea of
how many motorcycle riders
00:25:28.37\00:25:30.69
there are in the United States.
00:25:30.72\00:25:31.75
Is anybody have
a ballpark figure?
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Is it a large number?
00:25:33.45\00:25:35.10
It's close to 300.
00:25:35.13\00:25:37.53
Now I mean, in
the total community.
00:25:37.56\00:25:39.12
Oh, that many.
00:25:39.15\00:25:40.19
Just total bikers in the States.
00:25:40.22\00:25:42.21
That brings them
to along million.
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Yeah, one million
bikers in Sturgis.
00:25:43.58\00:25:45.66
We have an event coming
up that's one of the largest
00:25:45.69\00:25:48.35
motorcycle rally
events in the United States.
00:25:48.38\00:25:51.07
Now where would that be?
00:25:51.10\00:25:52.16
That's gonna be in
Sturgis in South Dakota.
00:25:52.19\00:25:54.83
That's gonna be, yeah,
coming up here in August so...
00:25:54.86\00:25:57.03
Now will you be there?
Well, you will be there?
00:25:57.06\00:25:59.17
Yes, absolutely.
We will have a booth.
00:25:59.20\00:26:01.49
I will be running children's
booth believe it or not
00:26:01.52\00:26:03.48
that you bring children
and Susan will have a...
00:26:03.51\00:26:07.63
A little health fair.
00:26:07.66\00:26:09.58
And will help
assessment type thing.
00:26:09.61\00:26:11.22
Yeah.
00:26:11.25\00:26:12.28
Now you did not
tell me you are--
00:26:12.31\00:26:13.62
you have nursing background?
00:26:13.65\00:26:14.71
Yes. Both of you?
00:26:14.74\00:26:15.87
Not, me. No. I'm a hairdresser.
00:26:15.90\00:26:16.98
Okay, Susan does? I do.
00:26:17.01\00:26:18.08
Okay. Praise the Lord.
00:26:18.11\00:26:19.66
So this calls for
a time investment.
00:26:19.69\00:26:21.70
This is not just
kind of a now and again,
00:26:21.73\00:26:24.85
off and on kind of thing.
00:26:24.88\00:26:25.94
This calls for really investment
00:26:25.97\00:26:27.66
of your time and your resources?
00:26:27.69\00:26:29.71
Yes. Yeah.
00:26:29.74\00:26:30.79
We've been working on this
for close to a year already.
00:26:30.82\00:26:33.71
So this Sturgis
thing is an annual,
00:26:35.80\00:26:37.95
an annual kind of a deal?
00:26:37.98\00:26:39.10
You know, Ellen White says,
00:26:39.13\00:26:40.24
that whenever people are
gathered in large numbers
00:26:40.27\00:26:42.87
for any reason
Adventist ought to be there.
00:26:42.90\00:26:44.98
So you've got your justification
00:26:45.01\00:26:46.46
that you need to be
there and this is a group.
00:26:46.49\00:26:48.67
Are these kinds of
rallies are they held
00:26:48.70\00:26:52.37
often across the United States?
00:26:52.40\00:26:54.46
Is this something happens a lot?
00:26:54.49\00:26:55.72
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:26:55.75\00:26:57.24
How do you pick which
one's you are going to attend
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and which one's you are gonna
try to have an influence in?
00:26:59.46\00:27:03.27
Well, you know, it
just started off so small,
00:27:03.30\00:27:05.79
you know, for
Oregon, for our chapter,
00:27:05.82\00:27:08.34
you know we were just asked
00:27:08.37\00:27:09.55
if we could set up a booth
and we started out so small
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just amazing how God has blessed
00:27:12.48\00:27:14.45
this group and led us
to such larger rallies.
00:27:14.48\00:27:17.10
But you know, if
they have us we come.
00:27:17.13\00:27:19.24
So we just invite
ourselves and you have to pay
00:27:19.27\00:27:22.44
for the booth for
the space but yeah--
00:27:22.47\00:27:25.32
Wow.
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In Florida,
Daytona Beach is the most,
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well known rally and
for the last four years
00:27:29.29\00:27:33.05
Adventist Motorcycle
Ministry has been there
00:27:33.08\00:27:35.05
and we send an army of people,
an army of people with bags,
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with our name on the
bags and in each bag 100
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"Steps to Christ"
00:27:42.62\00:27:44.06
or the "Ride of
Your Life" books.
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So we hit the corners
and we start meeting people,
00:27:46.02\00:27:48.41
praying with
people on the street,
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to know their names
00:27:49.62\00:27:50.68
and each book
have a AMM website,
00:27:50.71\00:27:55.29
so they can reconnect to us,
00:27:55.32\00:27:57.37
work with us, what
kind of their need is.
00:27:57.40\00:28:00.02
So yeah, it's a
challenge, pastor.
00:28:00.05\00:28:02.07
It is a challenge.
But it's such a joy time.
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Isn't it, guys?
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We have so much fun
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and I would not
change it for anything.
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Praise the Lord. Yeah.
00:28:11.70\00:28:12.73
Now, Laurie, you
told the number 300
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before is that
300 in your chapter,
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300 Adventist riders
across the United States?
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United States. United States.
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So it's not a big, big
number but I suspect growing.
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It's growing.
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Twenty chapters
in United States.
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Twenty chapters?
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Yes, sir. Praise the Lord.
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So the number up and down
because, you know, what's okay
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but that's why we do
this kind of ministry.
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We come to you guys
and we want to outreach
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any Seventh-day
Adventist rider out there
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who want to
join us and will be--
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want to be part of this army.
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You know, the Lord
is calling us to do this
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and I promise you will have fun.
00:28:44.88\00:28:47.12
Yes. Absolutely.
00:28:47.15\00:28:49.55
You consistently
talk about having fun.
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I guess riding itself is fun.
00:28:52.40\00:28:55.91
I had a-- my Kawasaki
wasn't quite this large,
00:28:55.94\00:28:58.99
I had a KZ1000
but riding is fun.
00:28:59.02\00:29:02.51
You know, as you get older
00:29:02.54\00:29:05.36
you don't heal
as fast as you did
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when you are younger
00:29:06.60\00:29:07.68
so my wife has
forbidden me to do this anymore.
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But I used to bring my bike
to church on Sunday mornings
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and take the pathfinders
00:29:14.65\00:29:15.71
around the block
and kind of thing
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and we would have fun.
00:29:16.80\00:29:17.88
And it is--
there is a kind of club
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when you pass
somebody on the street
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you will give them--
you know, kind of thing.
00:29:21.30\00:29:23.48
So there is a kind of fun.
00:29:23.51\00:29:26.67
How does one get
started or form a chapter
00:29:28.22\00:29:31.36
or find a chapter
or join a chapter?
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I'm a biker, I'm an Adventist
00:29:34.31\00:29:35.49
I didn't know there
was this kind of ministry.
00:29:35.52\00:29:36.98
How do I connect with you guys
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and maybe start something
in my own areas, my own church.
00:29:38.54\00:29:43.33
Well, the most
basic will be, you know,
00:29:43.36\00:29:45.77
to see across in the website,
00:29:45.80\00:29:48.07
AdventistMotorcycleMinistry.org
and there we follow you.
00:29:48.10\00:29:52.62
You call us, you do email
us we will follow up with that.
00:29:52.65\00:29:55.57
We will help you
all with the step
00:29:55.60\00:29:57.52
and most of the time and
depending how far you are,
00:29:57.55\00:30:00.49
you know, somebody
from the administration
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will come to support you
00:30:02.80\00:30:03.97
from the region to
open your ministry.
00:30:04.00\00:30:07.51
These rallies that you
have are they in every state?
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Oh, pretty much, yeah.
00:30:10.52\00:30:12.10
So you can so-- if you want to
00:30:12.13\00:30:13.53
you can find somewhere to go?
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Oh, yeah.
00:30:14.95\00:30:16.02
How do you at the
national level determined
00:30:16.05\00:30:18.56
and we touch some of
celebrity before that
00:30:18.59\00:30:20.15
you got this big
mega rallies like this one
00:30:20.18\00:30:22.17
you are going to in
South Dakota, North Dakota?
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South Dakota.
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South Dakota and then
another big one in Florida,
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are they regional,
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are they state wide
rallies of this size?
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They're nationwide,
Sturgis is nationwide
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and I think
international actually too.
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Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:37.93\00:30:38.96
So let me ask you a question
00:30:38.99\00:30:40.02
which is maybe
the 800 pound elephant
00:30:40.05\00:30:42.24
in the room we
are not talking about.
00:30:42.27\00:30:44.73
Motorcycle gangs
have a reputation.
00:30:44.76\00:30:48.32
Some are certainly
just groups of people
00:30:48.35\00:30:50.57
who want to ride together
00:30:50.60\00:30:51.74
others have some
malevolence stuff going on.
00:30:51.77\00:30:54.52
How do you determine
which ones to avoid which--
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or do you just say listen,
I'm taking Christ to the theme,
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going where the people are?
00:30:59.99\00:31:01.26
You know, how do you
wrestle with that, Laurie?
00:31:01.29\00:31:03.73
Oh, that's good question.
00:31:03.76\00:31:05.59
Well, if they have
a MC on their vests
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it shows that they
are motorcycle club
00:31:07.79\00:31:09.34
and so you know
that they are club.
00:31:09.37\00:31:11.92
How do we approach them?
00:31:11.95\00:31:15.07
We just talk bikes.
00:31:15.10\00:31:16.59
Like for me I ride a Harley
and it's pretty impressive
00:31:16.62\00:31:20.13
when I pull up, it
sounds good and you know,
00:31:20.16\00:31:22.63
I am just being honest.
00:31:22.66\00:31:23.88
You know, they love it
and they surround the bike.
00:31:23.91\00:31:26.16
Wow, you know, oh, you got cams,
00:31:26.19\00:31:28.40
you know, this and
that and we start bikes.
00:31:28.43\00:31:30.45
And that's their interest.
00:31:30.48\00:31:31.55
So I just talk to
them about what I know.
00:31:31.58\00:31:34.50
I don't know that
much about bikes but I know
00:31:34.53\00:31:35.97
I have a really cool bike and,
you know, and they liked it.
00:31:36.00\00:31:39.15
You know, we talk about bikes,
00:31:39.18\00:31:40.36
we talk about
riding and before you know,
00:31:40.39\00:31:42.23
you know, the Lord
prompts you at the right time
00:31:42.26\00:31:45.22
and my passion like
00:31:45.25\00:31:46.50
I said, is to show
the Three Angels' Message
00:31:46.53\00:31:48.21
but we don't go in
there with an intention to--
00:31:48.24\00:31:50.50
you know, we're going
there to the intention
00:31:50.53\00:31:52.48
of just being
friends and just loving them.
00:31:52.51\00:31:54.77
Because they are--
you know, my experience
00:31:54.80\00:31:56.86
with bikers is that they--
00:31:56.89\00:31:59.37
biker clubs they kind
of hide behind that image
00:31:59.40\00:32:03.66
of the tough guy
they have to be, you know,
00:32:03.69\00:32:06.48
rough and tough
because they are hiding behind.
00:32:06.51\00:32:09.12
They need family and
they are actually to me
00:32:09.15\00:32:13.46
I feel like they are
reaching out more than anybody
00:32:13.49\00:32:15.88
and they are winning attention.
00:32:15.91\00:32:17.49
And so, I think the
Lord has given me a gift
00:32:17.52\00:32:20.64
to be able to reach
their hearts and that's,
00:32:20.67\00:32:23.36
that's what I like to do.
00:32:23.39\00:32:24.44
So it sounds like
also you never really felt
00:32:24.47\00:32:27.18
threatened in your association,
00:32:27.21\00:32:29.81
you just kind of
take Jesus with and go?
00:32:29.84\00:32:31.14
Amen. Yeah.
00:32:31.17\00:32:32.25
It's always a blessing, yeah.
00:32:32.28\00:32:34.44
Yeah, if I
could share a couple--
00:32:34.47\00:32:36.49
Please do.
00:32:36.52\00:32:38.16
Well, at one events we
have-- we did a Bible study,
00:32:38.19\00:32:43.98
it was called "Good Vibrations"
00:32:44.01\00:32:46.61
and you know this young man
00:32:46.64\00:32:48.11
just walked up
and he seen the banner
00:32:48.14\00:32:50.24
and he said
Adventist Motorcycle Ministry
00:32:50.27\00:32:52.71
and there he is in the t-shirt
00:32:52.74\00:32:54.69
and he said don't you
guys go to church on Saturday?
00:32:54.72\00:32:57.23
We said, oh, yeah,
yeah. We keep the Sabbath day.
00:32:57.26\00:32:59.33
He said, I read
that before in the Bible.
00:32:59.36\00:33:02.26
I said, yeah.
00:33:02.29\00:33:03.36
He said, matter of
fact, I think I read somewhere
00:33:03.39\00:33:05.80
that the Roman
Catholic church changed it,
00:33:05.83\00:33:07.90
change your Sabbath?
00:33:07.93\00:33:08.96
Oh, wow.
00:33:08.99\00:33:10.02
And I said absolutely.
00:33:10.05\00:33:11.66
He did, that's
right they did, you know.
00:33:11.69\00:33:13.75
That's the beast power.
00:33:13.78\00:33:14.91
Well, before you know it
00:33:14.94\00:33:16.00
we sat down and I did a
complete Bible study with him
00:33:16.03\00:33:18.93
an hour and half on
the Mark of the Beast,
00:33:18.96\00:33:21.09
you know, the Second Coming.
00:33:21.12\00:33:23.27
That's my passion
and it comes from God
00:33:23.30\00:33:26.25
because I was
not raised with this.
00:33:26.28\00:33:28.31
It just comes out
and we bring the Bible
00:33:28.34\00:33:30.76
and we share and pray
00:33:30.79\00:33:32.33
and we actually led
him to a church there
00:33:32.36\00:33:34.53
so he started attending
church there in that area.
00:33:34.56\00:33:37.28
That's one.
00:33:37.31\00:33:39.46
We have another
one just-- you know,
00:33:39.49\00:33:42.65
we witnessed to other
bikers but we also witnessed
00:33:42.68\00:33:45.95
to wherever the Lord puts us.
00:33:45.98\00:33:47.73
Sometimes we think
we are going to an event
00:33:47.76\00:33:49.96
and you meet
someone in a parking lot.
00:33:49.99\00:33:53.22
So for instance
we have a picture
00:33:53.25\00:33:54.89
of this young man named--
00:33:54.92\00:33:57.25
well, this is another
one in the parking lot.
00:33:57.28\00:33:59.07
We went-- we are
riding to a beautiful area
00:33:59.10\00:34:03.23
where they have beautiful falls
00:34:03.26\00:34:05.11
and we were
getting ready to leave
00:34:05.14\00:34:06.68
and this coupled
stopped us and they said,
00:34:06.71\00:34:09.08
wow, look at your patch
here, you are a Christian.
00:34:09.11\00:34:11.72
We heard your bikes
and you know, they stopped
00:34:11.75\00:34:13.51
and want to talk to
us and before you know
00:34:13.54\00:34:15.10
we were able to
give them a book.
00:34:15.13\00:34:16.24
We prayed with
them and you know.
00:34:16.27\00:34:18.99
These people also,
00:34:20.57\00:34:22.10
they just started telling
us all about their history.
00:34:22.13\00:34:25.46
He had just gotten out of jail
for substance use I believed
00:34:25.49\00:34:32.44
and he just started
telling us all about this.
00:34:32.47\00:34:37.02
He had just gotten out
of prison or jail whichever
00:34:37.05\00:34:39.48
and his wife was in the car.
00:34:39.51\00:34:42.29
He was telling us she had just
00:34:42.32\00:34:43.91
gotten out of a women's shelter.
00:34:43.94\00:34:46.94
They had just
gotten their child back.
00:34:46.97\00:34:48.92
He was in the--
she was in the backseat
00:34:48.95\00:34:50.97
and he started just telling us
00:34:51.00\00:34:52.72
all these because
he saw our patches
00:34:52.75\00:34:55.72
that we are a Christian.
00:34:55.75\00:34:57.09
And he was saying
that he was wanted to do
00:34:57.12\00:34:59.42
something spiritual and
get something going himself
00:34:59.45\00:35:02.71
so that he could get himself
and his family back together.
00:35:02.74\00:35:06.48
And that was, we just
drove into the parking lot
00:35:06.51\00:35:09.28
and they
happened to be beside us.
00:35:09.31\00:35:11.59
Praise the Lord.
00:35:11.62\00:35:12.82
And the loud bikes
get people's attention
00:35:12.85\00:35:15.84
and so it automatically
it's just immediate,
00:35:15.87\00:35:19.96
it's just amazing to
me how quickly people
00:35:19.99\00:35:23.37
will get closer
than they normally would
00:35:23.40\00:35:26.75
for if you were just, you know,
00:35:26.78\00:35:28.70
beside them without the bikes.
00:35:28.73\00:35:30.62
So, Laurie, your
bike is a loud bike.
00:35:30.65\00:35:32.21
It is.
00:35:32.24\00:35:33.61
Pastor, your bike is a loud one?
00:35:33.64\00:35:34.70
Oh, yeah.
00:35:34.73\00:35:36.12
I tell people when they
don't like the loud pipes
00:35:36.15\00:35:38.03
I say, Jesus is
not coming quiet, okay?
00:35:38.06\00:35:40.38
With the sound of the
trumpet or a loud bike.
00:35:43.94\00:35:47.60
Susan, your husband's
bike is a loud bike also?
00:35:47.63\00:35:49.56
No, it's very quiet.
00:35:49.59\00:35:51.24
Praise the Lord. Yes.
00:35:51.27\00:35:52.85
I wanted to-- You have
to make sure its running.
00:35:52.88\00:35:53.93
Yes.
00:35:53.96\00:35:55.44
So I think, we think we
are gonna get a CD in ours,
00:35:55.47\00:35:58.65
you know, that
has the pipes on it
00:35:58.68\00:35:59.99
so that we can turn
that up when we get there.
00:36:00.02\00:36:02.31
But we rely on
the noise from their.
00:36:02.34\00:36:05.14
From their
bikes. Praise the Lord.
00:36:05.17\00:36:06.39
But obviously that
attracts people to the Lord.
00:36:06.42\00:36:09.55
With us on the phone
is North American Division
00:36:09.58\00:36:12.74
Youth Ministries
director, James Black.
00:36:12.77\00:36:14.90
James, are you there?
00:36:14.93\00:36:17.23
I'm here.
00:36:17.26\00:36:18.34
Yeah, I know you are in
an airport getting ready
00:36:18.37\00:36:19.98
to get on the plane
so thank you for taking
00:36:20.01\00:36:21.44
a moment out of your time.
00:36:21.47\00:36:22.54
Hope, you don't
miss your flight.
00:36:22.57\00:36:23.88
But I didn't know
having known you for a while,
00:36:23.91\00:36:25.59
I didn't know you
are a bike rider, man.
00:36:25.62\00:36:28.17
Yeah, I've got a
few secrets in there.
00:36:28.20\00:36:31.62
Evidently.
00:36:31.65\00:36:33.47
How long have you been riding?
00:36:33.50\00:36:34.73
Actually, it's been
about 30 years I had a bike
00:36:37.15\00:36:40.25
when I was in
college and the wife made me
00:36:40.28\00:36:42.54
get rid of it when
we had our first child
00:36:42.57\00:36:44.25
and we had like a 30 year gap
and I had this all over again
00:36:44.28\00:36:48.40
so it's been
about six or seven years
00:36:48.43\00:36:51.12
I kind of
started all over again.
00:36:51.15\00:36:52.60
Yeah, that kind of parallels
00:36:52.63\00:36:53.71
my situation except the
start all over again part.
00:36:53.74\00:36:57.89
I didn't do that.
00:36:57.92\00:36:58.97
Tell me about the value
of a ministry like this.
00:36:59.00\00:37:01.04
You are director
of youth ministries
00:37:01.07\00:37:02.98
and these people who are with me
00:37:03.01\00:37:04.81
on Saturday Night Youth,
but they are very youthful.
00:37:04.84\00:37:07.57
But talk to me about the value
00:37:07.60\00:37:09.77
of a particular
niche ministry like this.
00:37:09.80\00:37:13.20
You know, motorcycle ministry
is a very power ministry.
00:37:13.23\00:37:17.58
What I like about is that
of all the forms of evangelism
00:37:17.61\00:37:21.71
not every form will be
able to get young people
00:37:21.74\00:37:24.36
or young adults, even adults
to come to the local church.
00:37:24.39\00:37:28.05
And through motorcycle
ministry it's one of those means
00:37:28.08\00:37:31.13
whereby we can get people
00:37:31.16\00:37:32.34
who are un-churched
to come to the church.
00:37:32.37\00:37:35.27
It's like a
blessings and other types
00:37:35.30\00:37:37.29
of cleanliness it's like that.
00:37:37.32\00:37:40.17
Okay.
00:37:40.20\00:37:41.23
We know you are in a airport
00:37:41.26\00:37:42.29
so we can accept that
little background noise.
00:37:42.32\00:37:46.02
Do you know of
any particular people
00:37:46.05\00:37:48.73
in your own work
or stories of those
00:37:48.76\00:37:52.10
who have come to the
Lord through this ministry?
00:37:52.13\00:37:55.73
Yes.
00:37:55.76\00:37:57.23
We just have an
experience about two weeks ago
00:37:57.26\00:37:59.82
the Restoration Praise
Center in Bowie, Maryland
00:37:59.85\00:38:04.38
raised a motorcycle bike
blessing about three years ago
00:38:04.41\00:38:08.88
and started with
about maybe 25 bikers
00:38:08.91\00:38:11.46
and two weeks ago
00:38:11.49\00:38:13.33
we had about 125
bikers in the parking lot
00:38:13.36\00:38:16.85
of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
00:38:16.88\00:38:19.25
pretty much 100 of
those non-Adventist
00:38:19.28\00:38:22.15
and God just blessed
the thing in a powerful way
00:38:22.18\00:38:25.57
and it's an annual
event now and the whole church
00:38:25.60\00:38:28.76
has embraced, the
community has embraced it.
00:38:28.79\00:38:30.85
And we are seeing
people actually come to church
00:38:30.88\00:38:33.35
now as a result of
that motorcycle blessing.
00:38:33.38\00:38:35.57
Praise the Lord.
00:38:35.60\00:38:36.63
So the ministry is
having a positive effect.
00:38:36.66\00:38:39.35
We know that you
are in an airport,
00:38:39.38\00:38:40.88
you got to get on that plane.
00:38:40.91\00:38:42.18
Thank you so very much, man.
00:38:42.21\00:38:44.67
Good to hear from
you and keep on riding.
00:38:44.70\00:38:48.74
I sure will. Well, thank you.
00:38:48.77\00:38:49.80
You got some great people
there on the stage with you.
00:38:49.83\00:38:51.27
God bless you.
Guys, see you in Sturgis.
00:38:51.30\00:38:53.77
Amen.
00:38:53.80\00:38:54.89
Praise the Lord. So
he is coming to Sturgis?
00:38:56.74\00:38:59.31
Yes.
00:38:59.34\00:39:00.37
Excellent. Excellent. Excellent.
00:39:00.40\00:39:02.59
Are there a number of
Adventist administrators,
00:39:02.62\00:39:04.91
Adventist pastors
that are motorcycle riders?
00:39:04.94\00:39:09.30
In Florida? Yeah, yes.
00:39:09.33\00:39:10.74
We got Pastor Idalberto Torres,
00:39:10.77\00:39:13.51
we got Pastor
Rolando de los Rios,
00:39:13.54\00:39:15.73
we got Pastor-- I
said Orlando Lopez,
00:39:15.76\00:39:19.05
Idaberto,
Dai-Kimi and Dan Rolando,
00:39:19.08\00:39:21.85
yeah, four pastors.
00:39:21.88\00:39:23.83
Wow.
00:39:23.86\00:39:24.98
Not everybody
attend at the same time.
00:39:25.01\00:39:26.06
But instead. Yeah.
00:39:26.09\00:39:27.14
Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:27.17\00:39:28.20
But they are
totally supporting this.
00:39:28.23\00:39:29.26
Yeah, praise the Lord.
00:39:29.29\00:39:30.32
You Latino guys
are pretty interpret,
00:39:30.35\00:39:31.49
that is great.
00:39:31.52\00:39:32.57
That is really
great stuff. Yeah.
00:39:32.60\00:39:34.83
Talk to me a little
bit more about Sturgis,
00:39:34.86\00:39:36.57
what you plan on doing?
00:39:36.60\00:39:38.55
A group this big
how many Adventist
00:39:38.58\00:39:41.07
do you think will
descend on Sturgis?
00:39:41.10\00:39:43.93
That is hard to tell.
00:39:43.96\00:39:46.58
However I'm
looking forward to finding
00:39:46.61\00:39:50.47
some former Adventist
there because I have noticed
00:39:50.50\00:39:54.61
that when we go to other rallies
00:39:54.64\00:39:57.44
we find former Adventist.
00:39:57.47\00:39:59.22
In fact, when we
were in what they call
00:39:59.25\00:40:01.79
the Oyster Run last fall
00:40:01.82\00:40:04.80
I was wondering
through the people
00:40:04.83\00:40:07.20
and I was supposed to
be going back to the booth
00:40:07.23\00:40:09.22
but I was impress
to try another route
00:40:09.25\00:40:11.46
so I did and people
were so thick on the sidewalk
00:40:11.49\00:40:16.03
that you had to walk like
this to get through people.
00:40:16.06\00:40:19.12
Yeah.
00:40:19.15\00:40:20.18
And so I was surprised
00:40:20.21\00:40:23.30
when I felt a tap on my shoulder
00:40:23.33\00:40:26.47
and I looked around and
it was a man and he said,
00:40:26.50\00:40:30.67
are you Adventist?
00:40:30.70\00:40:32.34
And I said, well, yes I am.
00:40:32.37\00:40:34.43
And he said,
and you ride a bike?
00:40:34.46\00:40:37.45
I said well, yes, I do.
00:40:37.48\00:40:39.89
He said, I don't believe it.
00:40:39.92\00:40:41.95
I would never believe
00:40:41.98\00:40:43.41
an Adventist would be
riding bikes to a rally.
00:40:43.44\00:40:46.80
And so we got to
talking and we found--
00:40:46.83\00:40:49.79
I found that he
was a Vietnam vet,
00:40:49.82\00:40:53.12
he had been
raised in Adventist home,
00:40:53.15\00:40:56.38
he had been schooled
in Adventist schools,
00:40:56.41\00:41:01.50
and he went to the Vietnam War.
00:41:01.53\00:41:05.51
I could tell by
looking at him that he probably
00:41:05.54\00:41:07.97
had someone like,
something like PGST
00:41:08.00\00:41:10.27
something like that.
00:41:10.30\00:41:12.05
And we got to
talking right amongst crowded
00:41:12.09\00:41:15.61
with these other people
00:41:15.64\00:41:18.11
and he was so impressed
00:41:18.14\00:41:23.24
that Adventist
would be there at a rally.
00:41:23.27\00:41:26.19
We stopped and had prayer
00:41:26.23\00:41:27.60
right amongst all these people
00:41:27.63\00:41:29.30
and I said, would you believe
00:41:29.33\00:41:30.80
there are more people here too?
00:41:30.83\00:41:32.45
So we went and saw the
other people in the booth
00:41:32.48\00:41:35.16
and he was very
touched about it.
00:41:35.19\00:41:37.35
Wow. Praise God.
00:41:37.38\00:41:38.87
And I was thrilled, you
know, and so I expect in Sturgis
00:41:38.90\00:41:42.89
to find some other Adventists
00:41:42.92\00:41:44.94
and if we wear our ID on
our back they will notice
00:41:44.97\00:41:48.46
when they see us who we are.
00:41:48.49\00:41:49.53
Now, I'm very impressed of that
00:41:49.56\00:41:51.62
is this something
that happens often?
00:41:51.65\00:41:53.49
Do you find many
Adventists occasional,
00:41:53.52\00:41:57.88
frequent is this
something happens very, very,
00:41:57.91\00:41:59.63
you know, very much?
00:41:59.66\00:42:00.69
At another rally
we were just standing
00:42:00.72\00:42:03.51
there looking at
whatever activity was there
00:42:03.54\00:42:07.58
and my husband
was standing with me
00:42:07.61\00:42:10.76
and somebody
slapped him on the back
00:42:10.79\00:42:12.46
and said happy Sabbath.
00:42:12.49\00:42:15.35
He had had to be an Adventist
and he just kept on walking.
00:42:15.38\00:42:19.30
He didn't want
to talk or anything
00:42:19.33\00:42:21.15
but it was very
obvious, he knew.
00:42:21.18\00:42:22.67
Yeah.
00:42:22.70\00:42:23.74
Well, that's inside
lingo, happy Sabbath.
00:42:23.77\00:42:26.08
Yes. Praise the Lord.
00:42:26.11\00:42:27.51
And so sometimes
just that touch, you know,
00:42:27.55\00:42:29.24
that hated somebody else
00:42:29.27\00:42:30.31
out there just
like, just like me.
00:42:30.34\00:42:32.38
Now what did it say on the back?
00:42:32.41\00:42:33.62
I didn't get to see the
back that identifies you.
00:42:33.65\00:42:36.04
Your's say
Adventist Motorcycle Ministry
00:42:36.07\00:42:38.51
on the front very
close but what's on the back?
00:42:38.54\00:42:40.74
Okay.
00:42:42.97\00:42:44.02
Now, pastor just
stand and then turn around.
00:42:44.05\00:42:47.23
Can we get, can you push
in on that, on that rough?
00:42:47.26\00:42:50.09
There we go.
00:42:50.12\00:42:51.19
So you can see very clearly
00:42:51.22\00:42:53.04
there is a Adventist
logo and Miami, Florida,
00:42:53.07\00:42:56.13
Adventist Motorcycle Ministry.
00:42:56.16\00:42:57.46
So it's very,
very-- Thank you, pastor.
00:42:57.49\00:42:58.79
Very, very clear that
00:43:00.52\00:43:03.59
who you are and
what you stand for.
00:43:03.62\00:43:06.26
Now you mentioned to me that
00:43:06.30\00:43:07.71
there are
motorcycle camp meetings.
00:43:07.74\00:43:10.23
Are these regional,
state-wide, where are they,
00:43:10.26\00:43:12.69
when do they happen?
00:43:12.72\00:43:13.75
Walk me through that.
00:43:13.78\00:43:14.94
Okay.
00:43:16.61\00:43:19.10
Well, we have one in
Florida. We have one in Florida.
00:43:19.13\00:43:21.61
Every year we
have our camp meeting--
00:43:21.64\00:43:24.57
James Black, was
our speaker last time
00:43:26.08\00:43:28.63
and we had about 75-80
bikers from Oakwood College,
00:43:28.66\00:43:34.76
we got from Tennessee.
00:43:34.79\00:43:36.77
We had, they came from Oregon,
00:43:36.80\00:43:39.08
you know, and
the Floridian people,
00:43:39.11\00:43:41.90
you know the home guest.
00:43:41.93\00:43:43.34
He will say women the great
one of the better camp meeting,
00:43:43.37\00:43:47.64
best camp meeting I've
been in my last few years.
00:43:47.67\00:43:50.34
Praise the Lord.
00:43:50.37\00:43:51.40
That's very
spiritual, rides were great
00:43:51.43\00:43:54.24
and the moment you know,
00:43:54.27\00:43:55.55
I can say that it
was a total success
00:43:55.58\00:43:57.72
and blessing, you know.
00:43:57.75\00:43:58.78
Praise the Lord.
00:43:58.81\00:43:59.85
What time of the
year you have it, summer?
00:43:59.88\00:44:01.23
Yes. Yes.
00:44:01.26\00:44:02.44
If can anybody
attend, even a non-biker
00:44:02.47\00:44:06.45
or is it kind of
strictly for bikers?
00:44:06.48\00:44:07.82
No, everybody is
welcomed. Everyone is welcomed.
00:44:07.85\00:44:09.90
Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
00:44:09.93\00:44:11.10
Do you have
anything like that out west?
00:44:11.13\00:44:13.11
Yes.
00:44:13.14\00:44:14.19
We have it one in
our North Conference.
00:44:14.22\00:44:18.66
North Pacific.
00:44:18.69\00:44:19.72
North Pacific Conference.
00:44:19.75\00:44:21.85
One is held there.
00:44:21.88\00:44:23.06
This will our
fifth year I believe
00:44:23.09\00:44:26.63
and yeah,
00:44:26.66\00:44:28.11
we have about 75-80 that come
00:44:28.14\00:44:31.39
and we invite friends
and, yeah, it's really great.
00:44:31.42\00:44:34.33
We've had Pastor
James Black there,
00:44:34.36\00:44:36.06
we've had John Reaves
and it's a really nice event.
00:44:36.09\00:44:39.59
We have workshops
00:44:39.62\00:44:40.68
and you go on
rides and fellowship.
00:44:40.71\00:44:43.29
Yeah, it's wonderful.
00:44:43.32\00:44:44.37
One of the things people tell me
00:44:44.40\00:44:45.78
when they talk
about motorcycle clubs
00:44:45.81\00:44:47.69
and motorcycle
gangs is that they provide
00:44:47.73\00:44:50.82
for a person who maybe a down--
00:44:50.85\00:44:53.08
and maybe that's a wrong term,
00:44:53.11\00:44:54.14
but someone who maybe
alienated, marginalized.
00:44:54.17\00:44:57.21
It gives them a sense of family.
00:44:57.24\00:44:59.21
Do you feel
that in the Adventist
00:44:59.24\00:45:01.25
motorcycle circle that
there is a sense of comrade,
00:45:01.28\00:45:04.57
the sense of family?
00:45:04.60\00:45:06.09
Yes.
00:45:06.12\00:45:07.17
Yeah, actually
we just recently did
00:45:07.20\00:45:10.03
and another picture
that I wanted to show
00:45:10.06\00:45:11.40
is a couple that we
went to visit Brad and Kyra.
00:45:11.43\00:45:14.98
They were in
the Adventist Church
00:45:15.01\00:45:17.01
and they had
kind of slipped away
00:45:17.04\00:45:18.58
and they started
riding with another group,
00:45:18.61\00:45:20.88
non-Christian group.
00:45:20.91\00:45:22.93
And we wanted to love
them back into the church.
00:45:22.96\00:45:25.55
We went to visit them,
they are about three hours
00:45:25.58\00:45:27.31
south from us and
there is a picture of them.
00:45:27.34\00:45:30.52
They are in the
middle there and you know,
00:45:30.56\00:45:33.94
we made a special trip
to go down and see them
00:45:33.97\00:45:36.26
because in this group
that they were riding with
00:45:36.29\00:45:39.27
they actually
went down on their bike
00:45:39.30\00:45:40.87
and had a horrible accident.
00:45:40.90\00:45:42.26
And he is pretty
much disabled for life.
00:45:42.29\00:45:46.45
And so we wanted to go
and visit them, you know,
00:45:46.48\00:45:49.03
pray with them,
go to their church,
00:45:49.06\00:45:50.73
support them
because he is still having
00:45:50.76\00:45:52.11
a lot of problems.
00:45:52.14\00:45:53.17
And we took up a
little collection of,
00:45:53.20\00:45:55.58
you know, money for
them and prayed with them
00:45:55.61\00:45:58.28
and it just-- I mean,
it just made their life,
00:45:58.31\00:46:00.41
it made their world
that we cared enough.
00:46:00.44\00:46:02.80
And so we are encouraging them
00:46:02.83\00:46:03.90
to open a chapter
because even he doesn't ride
00:46:03.93\00:46:06.01
he can open a chapter, you know.
00:46:06.04\00:46:08.48
So when you talk about ministry,
00:46:08.51\00:46:09.99
this is really ministry.
00:46:10.02\00:46:11.31
They are very strong,
00:46:11.34\00:46:12.83
very different
ministerial aspects to this.
00:46:12.86\00:46:15.78
Not only to the
wider evangelistic world
00:46:15.81\00:46:18.12
but within the group itself
00:46:18.15\00:46:19.66
you are
ministering to each other?
00:46:19.69\00:46:20.77
Yeah and it's not
always motorcycles
00:46:20.80\00:46:22.74
like we were saying before.
00:46:22.77\00:46:24.70
Have another photo
of a gentleman we met
00:46:24.73\00:46:26.81
in a parking lot on the way.
00:46:26.84\00:46:30.34
His name is
Brandon and on the way
00:46:30.37\00:46:33.35
to go see Brad
and Kyra we were--
00:46:33.38\00:46:36.50
we stayed at a hotel
and we get up in the morning
00:46:36.53\00:46:38.99
and you know, these
kids are out, you know,
00:46:39.02\00:46:40.84
looking at the bikes
and stuff and of course
00:46:40.87\00:46:42.53
when I went out
and started mine, like,
00:46:42.56\00:46:43.80
wow, you know,
where did you got that?
00:46:43.83\00:46:46.20
You know, so we started talking
00:46:46.23\00:46:47.37
and you know, I
went to give him a book,
00:46:47.40\00:46:50.22
one of the "Steps
to Christ" books there.
00:46:50.25\00:46:52.35
He said, oh, no, no.
00:46:52.38\00:46:53.44
I don't believe. I
said, you are kidding me.
00:46:53.47\00:46:55.34
You don't believe in
the world we live in today?
00:46:55.37\00:46:57.53
Seriously? I said,
okay, what do you believe?
00:46:57.56\00:46:59.66
He said, oh, no,
I'm kind of agnostic,
00:46:59.69\00:47:01.39
I really don't.
00:47:01.42\00:47:02.76
I said well, explain that
to me what does that mean?
00:47:02.79\00:47:05.32
What is your belief?
00:47:05.35\00:47:06.87
And I think we have a picture
of him in the parking lot.
00:47:06.90\00:47:11.12
His name is Brandon.
00:47:11.15\00:47:12.33
Anyway so we got to
talking and before you make a--
00:47:12.36\00:47:16.07
you know, before you
make a long story short,
00:47:16.10\00:47:18.21
here he-- there he is.
00:47:18.24\00:47:19.59
I ended up doing a
Bible study with him
00:47:19.62\00:47:22.03
right there in the parking lot
00:47:22.06\00:47:23.67
and gave him a book
and we also prayed with him
00:47:23.70\00:47:26.46
and I continually pray for
him because he understood once
00:47:26.49\00:47:29.84
I started sharing
things from the word
00:47:29.87\00:47:31.84
then it made sense
to him and he was like,
00:47:31.87\00:47:33.49
oh, I never heard that before.
00:47:33.52\00:47:36.13
You know, the
Bible says that if you,
00:47:36.16\00:47:37.96
you know, if you are gonna burn
00:47:37.99\00:47:39.74
you are gonna burn and
you just gonna burn up,
00:47:39.77\00:47:41.43
you are not gonna
burn forever and ever.
00:47:41.46\00:47:43.07
He said, really?
00:47:43.10\00:47:44.16
So we shared that.
00:47:44.19\00:47:45.24
And that's to me
that's a blessing.
00:47:45.27\00:47:46.55
That's what I love to do.
00:47:46.58\00:47:47.63
So the bike does
give you opportunities
00:47:47.66\00:47:49.11
for evangelism, for witness?
00:47:49.14\00:47:50.33
Yeah. It's a tour.
00:47:50.36\00:47:51.45
We're missing it say,
00:47:51.48\00:47:52.55
bike would have baptize in pool.
00:47:52.58\00:47:54.46
Yeah, exactly.
00:47:54.49\00:47:56.22
You have-- Maybe
she hook up something
00:47:56.25\00:47:59.14
on her back to drag along with,
00:47:59.17\00:48:00.34
you could baptize
them right on the spot.
00:48:00.37\00:48:01.70
Yes.
00:48:01.73\00:48:02.76
I think we've got
another Skype call.
00:48:02.79\00:48:05.22
All right, this is Juan Santos
00:48:05.25\00:48:07.47
and he is the national president
00:48:07.50\00:48:10.78
and he is a detective.
00:48:10.81\00:48:11.86
He is a law enforcement.
00:48:11.89\00:48:13.87
Detective
Santos, are you with us?
00:48:13.90\00:48:16.80
Yes. How are you, Pastor Murray?
00:48:16.83\00:48:18.34
We are well.
00:48:18.37\00:48:19.59
We are well and it's
good to hear your voice.
00:48:19.62\00:48:21.78
Now we know you just
finished a long shift working
00:48:21.81\00:48:25.77
and so we are keeping you
00:48:25.80\00:48:27.13
from your beauty
nap, man, we apologize.
00:48:27.16\00:48:29.48
But tell me how
long have you been
00:48:29.51\00:48:32.35
with Adventist
Motorcycle Ministries?
00:48:32.38\00:48:34.81
I've been with the
ministry since 2008 actually
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when they first formed
I was invited to sitting
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in their
first-- one of the first
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organizational
meetings where we loaded on
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the color of the
patch, the design,
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and how we are
gonna name ourselves.
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And ever since then
it's been awesome experience
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that has helped us and
me personally and my family
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a great deal has been,
it's been a wonderful ride,
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no fun intended.
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No fun intended.
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It would go on, it goes on
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in the Adventist
Motorcycle Ministry.
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Has it been rewarding
to you to see the growth
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of this ministry and
how it has spread out
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not only across the
country but across the world?
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It has.
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Rewarding it's an under
statement to say the least.
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It's been, it's been
incredible how a simple idea
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got so much fire
behind it and the only thing
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I could achievable
to is in fact, that God
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directed this and that
the Holy Spirit took over.
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It ain't by
nobody's one person hard work
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but if not by the grace of God
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that we have been able to
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touched so many lives
and done so many things.
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It's been an incredible journey.
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Praise the Lord.
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You know, when we
think of motorcyclist
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in general we think of outlaws
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but you are a
member of law enforcement
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and we praise the Lord for that.
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Before we let you go
and our time is running out,
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do you have any
particular testimonies
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or stories that sort
of pop out in your mind
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of how God has
used this ministry?
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Yes.
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Actually a one quick one
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that very first Daytona
mission trip that we did,
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we did Daytona
mission we gave up books
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"Steps to Christ"
the motorcycle edition
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and my wife, my daughters
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who were extremely,
extremely shy individuals
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they were out
there just giving books,
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witnessing to people.
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We had a young lady come over
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and just walk
over, began to talk to us
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and she actually
by the end of the day
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gave her life to Christ
and that just gave us so much,
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it's just such a boost
of doing God's work as we--
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He actually showed
us how He was using
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that ministry to be
able to touch that one life
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and if it was
only for that one life
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it was 100 percent worth it.
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And so we were so
blessed and moved by it
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that I had to--
that we just continue on.
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And again if you meet my family,
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my daughters don't talk.
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You know, if you got teenagers
they will talk to nobody,
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but come mission,
they're out there,
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mingling with
people, talking to people,
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witnessing to
people, giving them books.
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I seen how God
literally changed their lives
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just by be able to, you
know, through the ministry
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be able to witness to others.
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It's an
incredible, really incredible
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touching thing for
us, for me personally.
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I've never seen
my family that way
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so I thank God, that
He used us to be able
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to use them and
give them that purpose
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of what we are
supposed to be doing.
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Praise the Lord.
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Real quick, how long
does the presidency last for?
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How long are you-- is your term?
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It's for four
years, this is my last year
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and so yeah, every four
years we elect a new leader
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so-- for me it's been
an incredible journey,
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incredible trip
of complete honor
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and a privilege to be
able to serve as president.
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And so I thank the Lord
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for that
opportunity that He gave us.
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Thank you so
very, very much, Juan.
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God bless you and
Lord keep you safe
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as you do your job
in law enforcement.
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Thank you so much.
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Take care guys, love you all.
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What I want to do
just now before our time
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is out is to go
to the contact roll,
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the address roll
and the information.
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Should you want to make
contact with this ministry
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to support it, to find
out about a chapter near you,
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to attend a
rally, to speak with any
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of these wonderful people
who are sitting by me just now?
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Should you want
to make contact with
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Adventist Motorcycle Ministry,
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here is how you
can do precisely that.
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Adventist Motorcycle Ministry
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reaches hundreds
of thousands of bikers
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around the world
who may otherwise
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never know the
message of salvation.
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If you would like to
know more about this ministry
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you may write to them
at AMM, P.O. Box 173535,
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in Tampa, Florida, 33672.
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That's AMM, P.O. Box 173535,
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in Tampa, Florida, 33672.
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You may also call
them at 813-323-5215
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or visit them online at
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AdventistMotorcycleMinistry.org.
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That's
AdventistMotorcycleMinistry.org.
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All right, that's
the contact information
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that you will need
and you really need
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to make contact with,
with this group particularly
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if you are an ex-Adventist
00:53:52.05\00:53:54.08
who rides or you
know some people who ride,
00:53:54.11\00:53:56.47
who you may want to reach out to
00:53:56.50\00:53:58.73
and there is a
brotherhood, there is a lingo,
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a language that
perhaps a non rider cannot have
00:54:01.12\00:54:05.22
that those who ride
and are part of this family
00:54:05.25\00:54:07.53
can reach out in
a very special way.
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And they are telling me
you don't have to be Adventist
00:54:09.80\00:54:12.79
but you want to
associate with some Christians,
00:54:12.82\00:54:15.68
some good clean
wholesome riding Christian fun
00:54:15.71\00:54:18.68
you can, you
can be part of this.
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Now, Susan, you've got a
little burden that we need
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to give you a minute
or two to talk about.
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I do. Thank you.
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Some people ask,
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why we would even go to Sturgis?
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Because you know, it's a place
00:54:31.39\00:54:33.66
where some people say it's wild
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and are a little hesitant
to go to something like that
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but my reason is
because of the women there.
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The women in the clubs,
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I've learned a
little bit about them.
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They might have started
in the clubs when they were,
00:54:52.13\00:54:56.47
you know, thinking
it was an adventure
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and they wanted to
have fun and things.
00:54:58.72\00:55:01.04
But after they
have been in there well,
00:55:01.07\00:55:02.82
they realized
that they are actually,
00:55:02.85\00:55:05.30
they are people's property.
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They are the
property of the clubs
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and kind of slaves to the clubs.
00:55:09.76\00:55:13.73
And it can be to the
whole club or whatever
00:55:13.76\00:55:17.42
and there are many
that want to escape
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and they have a
very difficult time to.
00:55:23.52\00:55:25.74
But I see the picture
00:55:25.77\00:55:27.85
that was just on
there and if you noticed
00:55:27.88\00:55:30.53
the ladies picture
it says property of.
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They even wear on their backs
00:55:35.66\00:55:37.37
that they are the
property of that club.
00:55:37.40\00:55:39.38
And I just have a real burden
00:55:39.41\00:55:42.51
for those women to
be able to reach them
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because they
have a difficult time.
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Men cannot talk with them.
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They are not
allowed to talk with them,
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only women can.
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So you got a
very special ministry.
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I have a very special burden
on my heart for these women.
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In fact, I'm praying
for the Lord to prepare
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whoever He has prepared
for me to meet at Sturgis
00:56:01.88\00:56:06.80
because I want to
find one of those girls
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and make friends with her.
00:56:09.26\00:56:10.92
And that is just a
real burden on my heart
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to do the women because
we usually think of the men
00:56:14.35\00:56:18.72
but we see the women
but I just have a burden
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for them the more I
find out about them.
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Very good, Susan.
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You know, it occurs to me,
00:56:27.79\00:56:29.06
you know, that there
is an element of danger
00:56:29.09\00:56:30.94
in what you do.
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There is.
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Because you are going
into unknown territory.
00:56:33.14\00:56:35.40
Now agreed the angel
of the Lord encamps around
00:56:35.43\00:56:37.72
about them there
for Him, to deliver.
00:56:37.75\00:56:39.40
So you are taking the
name of Jesus with you
00:56:39.43\00:56:41.59
but we need to
keep them in prayer.
00:56:41.62\00:56:43.62
This ministry needs
to be bathed in prayer
00:56:43.65\00:56:45.63
because at any time
00:56:45.66\00:56:46.89
as we've seen
recently things can happen.
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Now, need to say this,
00:56:49.00\00:56:50.08
are you going to be
at General Conference?
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Yes. And we look
to see you there.
00:56:51.45\00:56:52.69
You all be there? Yes.
00:56:52.72\00:56:53.93
So we will come
by and shake hands
00:56:53.96\00:56:55.01
and that kind of thing.
00:56:55.04\00:56:56.37
Keep them in prayer
and support this ministry.
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Well, our time has
fast slipped into eternity.
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Allow me now in closing to wish
00:57:01.10\00:57:02.34
you both grace and peace
00:57:02.37\00:57:04.19
through our Lord
and Savior Jesus Christ.
00:57:04.22\00:57:05.90
We will see you again soon.
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Bye-bye and God bless.
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Amen.
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