I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my word
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to 3ABN today.
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Thank you for your love,
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your prayers in
support of this ministry.
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Allow me to introduce
myself, I'm C. A. Murray
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and it is a good day to be alive
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and a good day to be in Christ.
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Got a very, very
interesting program for you,
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we want you to
sort of draw close
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because we want to talk
about Black Hills Health
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and Education Center.
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I wish I got all
the H's in there.
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Black Hills
Health, yeah, BHHEC, yeah.
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That's right.
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And we've got
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three representatives
of that institution.
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I was there many years ago
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but I think things have
changed quite a little bit
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since I have been there.
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It's still just as beautiful.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, couldn't be any--
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that surely has not changed
because it is a beautiful,
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it's beautiful country
and beautiful place to be
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and it sits in a nice little--
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I guess it's a
valley surrounded by hills
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but its kind of elevated
and its kind of out there
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and you got
Buffalo running around
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and you got Mount
Rushmore not too far away
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and its just a
really serene setting.
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Yes, we have--
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actually the Red Rock Canyons
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were just settled
right in the Red Rock Canyons
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so it's just beautiful
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with the stream running through.
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And when I was
there it was sort of cold
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and crisp in the morning
and it warms up during the day
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and it's kind of
cold and crisp at night.
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But it's a wonderful place to be
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and such great
work is being done.
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Let me introduce my guest.
First, Rich Smith. Rich or Ric?
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Rich Smith, Ronda
Smith, Carola Janiak.
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I did that right?
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Now the first question
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I always ask
anybody whose name is Smith,
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is that your real name
or you in a special program?
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Real name.
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So you really are Rich Smith?
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I'm Rich Smith.
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Praise the Lord.
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So I will make
really Ronda Smith.
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That really does make me that.
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And Carola Janiak,
you couldn't invent that.
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That's got to be a real name.
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So we are okay with that.
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It's good to have you guys here.
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I want to talk about just
before we go to our music,
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your positions and
what you actually do there.
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You are development
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and when I hear
development I hear fundraising.
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Yes.
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You will tell
me if that is true.
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And then Ronda, you
are the wellness director
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and we want to
walk through that.
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And then Carola, consultant
for the massage school
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and I know when I was there
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the massage
school was just sort of
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in its infant stages.
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Just kind of
getting up and running.
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I think that's an integral part
of the program now, isn't it?
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So Rich, let's start with
you before we go to our music.
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What is your job description?
What you actually do?
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Well, you know,
there we are gonna
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put marketing on
the job description.
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Actually, development,
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recognize there
development is fundraising
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but I look at it as
much more than that.
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It's making sure
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that things begin to
kind of head the direction
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you would like them to
as far as business plan
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or a ministry plan,
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so fundraising and
online presence as well.
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So it's really kind of overall,
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I also have some responsibility
for human resources
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making sure that
the staff is happy.
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So you know,
naturally it's a ministry
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that you wear many hats so...
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Most ministries
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the lines get
barge just a little bit,
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nothing but really
pure, you know, you get,
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you walk in with
the job description
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and then it kind of
gets tweaked in this
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what they call
mission creep, you know,
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it kind of gets
real bigger, you know.
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He does that well,
let's give him that too,
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you know, that kind of thing.
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And Ronda, as wellness
director what does that mean?
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Well, that means
that you just make sure
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the wellness
program runs smoothly
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and everybody's needs are met
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and staff to cover the needs
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and just variety of things.
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I'm a nurse as well,
so I work in that area too
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and just it's very all around
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making sure
everything goes right.
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Okay.
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Carola, you are the consultant
for the massage school.
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Walk me through that.
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Well, I used to own a school,
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actually God
owned that we work there
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and it was in
close to the Molina
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there in California
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and so I had been praying about
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that there were no
longer any massage schools
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in the Adventist
world as far as training.
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And so I remember praying
and just within a couple days
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I get a call from Black Hills
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saying hey, would
you like to come out
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and help with our massage school
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getting it up in running again?
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And I said, of
course, I would love to.
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So it was like a sign
from God and its all miracle.
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God always creates
miracles and we love God.
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Now, I'm gonna ask--
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we need do on the
jib or the hammer,
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pull out and get us close to all
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a three shot as we can.
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Let's get all three of
these people on camera.
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First of all I'm doing
this for a special reason.
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Thank Turner, you
are doing it so well.
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And if you kind
of ease in on them
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these are three
good looking people
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and I say that
because they speak well.
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Obviously you
practice what you preach.
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The grey hair would indicate
that you are not children
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but having said that
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you speak well
for your ministry.
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You got bright smiles,
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you are nice looking people
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in meeting and talking with you.
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You are friendly and
affable and outgoing.
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And if I'm going
somewhere to get well
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these are the kind
of faces I wanted to see
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when I wake up in the morning
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and the kind of
people I want to be around.
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So we are gonna
talk about Black Hills
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and what it does to health.
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It is a health
and healing center
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and how you fit into that
and then we are gonna look
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at some of the
rarest aspects of it
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and just have a
good time together.
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So we want you to draw close,
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pull up, we got
a lot to talk about
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and if you are in
need of the services
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that Black Hills offers
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and I will say what
they do they do well.
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And a number of people from 3ABN
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have been on your
campus over the years.
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Everybody comes
back with great reports
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and we want to talk
about some of the changes.
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I think you guys
are fairly recent,
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you weren't
there when I was there.
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These faces I would remember.
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So the reason I don't
is because you were there.
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So we are gonna talk about
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the change that
you've brought with your
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and some of the new things
that Black Hills is doing.
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Okay.
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And we are gonna
have a good time together.
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First we are
gonna go to our music.
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Some time ago a
young man slipped in,
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I say young man
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because I remember
taking out to lunch
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and it took me a whole lunch
just to get this name right.
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Because it's
Pierre Van Westhuizen
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and it takes a little
while to get that correctly
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and we would tease--
I said I'm C.A. Murray
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that's really easy one to
get to Pierre Van Westhuizen.
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But wonderful man,
great singer, operatic voice
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and just a really
fabulous Christian
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and a fabulous guy.
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He is gonna be
singing "Lamb of Glory."
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Hear the story from God's Word
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That kings and
priests and prophets heard
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There would be a sacrifice
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And blood would
flow to pay sin's price
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Precious Lamb of glory
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Love's most wondrous story
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Heart of God's redemption of man
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Worship the Lamb of glory
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On the cross God loved the world
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While all the
pow'rs of hell were hurled
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No one there could understand
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The One they saw
was Christ the Lamb
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Precious Lamb of glory
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Love's most wondrous story
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Heart of God's redemption of man
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Glory to the Lamb
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Pure as snow I stand
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Worshipping the Lamb of Glory
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With the saints I
will stand in eternity
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Giving thanks to
the Lamb of Glory
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Precious Lamb of Glory
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Love's most wondrous story
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Heart of God's redemption of man
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Glory to the Lamb
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Pure as snow I stand
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Worshipping the Lamb of Glory
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Precious Lamb of Glory
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Love's most wondrous story
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Heart of God's redemption of man
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Glory to the Lamb
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Pure as snow I stand
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Worshipping the Lamb of Glory
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Amen
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Well, done,
Pierre Van Westhuizen,
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"Lamb of Glory."
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My guests are Rich Smith,
Ronda Smith and Carola Janiak.
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Janiak? Janiak. Praise the Lord.
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And they are
representing Black Hills.
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And guys, I want
to just talk to you
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just a little bit
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because as I said
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when I was there
you weren't there yet.
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How long have you been
working at black Hills?
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Well, actually we
arrived in February.
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Oh, okay. Newbies.
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We are newbies,
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not to the whole
scenario health ministry
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but to Black Hills we are.
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So you have been
in health ministries
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for a while?
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Actually Ronda I think
maybe she is up to 35 years
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and I'm maybe 25 years.
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Okay, so you have been
doing this a little while.
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Yes. Yeah.
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What brought you
particularly to Black Hills?
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We had been working in
California at a program
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and there was a
little bit of a break in that
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and it just happens that Carola
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called and said there
is a need in Black Hills,
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would you be interested?
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So I was kind of just
one thing led to another
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and so here we are.
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So you knew each
other before, Carola?
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Yes.
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I see. I see. So you
been there a bit longer?
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At Black Hills, no. I'm
just there as a consultant.
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Okay. Okay.
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So you are not stationed
at Black Hills per say?
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No. I'm in Grand
Junction, Colorado.
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So you just,
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you advised then as they get
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this massage
program up in running?
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Exactly. Very, very good.
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Very good. Very good.
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Carola and I have actually
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known each other for
quite a number of years.
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If some of listeners
remember Charles Thomas
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we had both worked
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at different
times with Dr. Thomas
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and that's how we
met many years ago.
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I see. Very, very good.
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Let's talk a little bit about
this school of massage Carola,
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because as I said when
I was there it was still
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and idea that was kind of fresh.
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They wanted to move in to,
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I think they may have
had one person on staff
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who had some background.
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Why is that
such an integral part
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because for a while
we didn't hear about
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massage that
much and you mentioned
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there were no
Adventist schools teaching it?
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Why is that such an
integral part of health
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and why is that important?
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Well, because touch is
such an important thing
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and more and more studies
are coming out on that now
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even in research
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but touch is a wonderful
way to reach hearts to Jesus
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and we've seen that
over and over again.
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When you can help somebody
and get them out of pain
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and make then feel better
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oh, my, their
hearts just open up
00:15:13.30\00:15:15.21
and then will
trust you and love you.
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And whatever you have to
say they are very open to it.
00:15:17.75\00:15:21.73
Now you obviously
have a background,
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where did you
learn your technique?
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Where did you study? I
initially studied at Weimar.
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I went there as a
professional observer
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also a nurse
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and then I ended
up going to Dr. Thomas
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and he was my
mentor for almost ten years
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and we had the school there
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so I ended up
becoming an instructor.
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And after he passed, you know,
00:15:43.16\00:15:44.71
he used to always
say, keep the vision.
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And so we wanted to
pass on that vision,
00:15:47.21\00:15:49.83
so another graduate
and I we started the hands
00:15:49.86\00:15:53.07
on medical massage
school out near Loma Linda.
00:15:53.10\00:15:56.02
Because we
wanted to continue that
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that vision to show that
we could do medical ministry
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and still higher
people at a good wage
00:16:01.84\00:16:04.37
and people being happy
working in medical ministry
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and giving high
quality education.
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Now I want to put
some legs on us little bit
00:16:12.14\00:16:13.86
because your
background is in nursing,
00:16:13.89\00:16:15.51
Ronda, your
background is in nursing also.
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You bring a nursing
background to your practice.
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The idea of massage, you know,
you think sitting in a chair
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and someone doing
your neck kind of thing.
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Is there really
a medical benefit
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to massage therapy
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as far as over all
health is concerned?
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Wrestle with that for
me for just a little bit.
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More than just man,
it feels good, you know,
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is there--
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are you really
doing something that has
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long term medical
benefit for the patient?
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Absolutely.
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Even when you are combining
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and especially
when you are combining
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hydrotherapy with it.
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So we teach hydrotherapy
along with the massage
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and it changes a
person's well being.
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Even their
serotonin levels go up,
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their dopamine levels
go up, endorphins go up.
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All those things even
on a mind type of thing.
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And hydrotherapy helps
with depression, menopause.
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There are so many different
simple therapy treatment
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such you can give
in like 10-20 minutes
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that can help
somebody or teach them
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how to do it themselves.
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And more and more research
is going into massage as well.
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Not just with the
muscles but also with structure,
00:17:24.93\00:17:28.94
with better breathing,
better-- total better wellness,
00:17:28.97\00:17:33.48
even the digestive system.
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When you work on the abdomen
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and you are working in
the internal, you know,
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on the internal
organs to get rid of it.
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Adhesions, from surgeries
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and a lot of disabilities
that people have in pain
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that they have no
idea it can be taken away
00:17:47.92\00:17:50.00
with message therapy.
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So I'm able to understand Rich,
00:17:52.41\00:17:55.06
that Black Hills now
teaches massage therapy,
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that's part of the curriculum?
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Yes.
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Well, the school of massage
is right there on the campus
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and we have a
lovely school of massage,
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well equipped and-- so
there is a lot to work with.
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Oh, there's a
picture on the screen.
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As I recall
that's downstairs in--
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That's right.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I'm trying to
go through my mind.
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Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:21.59\00:18:22.62
That's right. Yeah, yeah.
00:18:22.65\00:18:23.68
Very, very, very, very--
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You know, and I
wanted to go back
00:18:24.77\00:18:26.44
to Carola
mentioned hydrotherapy.
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I had-- personally
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I had a massage
practice in Washington State
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and one of I
called it my secret weapon
00:18:34.29\00:18:38.70
of doing my massage
practice was hydrotherapy.
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I found that using--
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the use of water really
reduces the amount of work
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of a massage therapist
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simply because you
get better circulation
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and it just reduce the amount
of work that you had to do
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and the results were better.
00:18:55.01\00:18:56.61
So it's really,
really, quite powerful.
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No Carola, sort
of nodding her head.
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Oh, yeah. I agree with him.
00:18:59.54\00:19:00.57
Yes, obviously
it does it. Amazing.
00:19:00.60\00:19:01.87
Now when you say hydrotherapy,
00:19:01.90\00:19:03.88
footbaths, hot
baths, immersion baths,
00:19:03.91\00:19:06.16
how you combining the two?
00:19:06.19\00:19:07.33
I'm very curious. I
want Carola answer that.
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Yeah, there are salt glows
00:19:09.67\00:19:11.27
like for people going
through menopause amazing,
00:19:11.30\00:19:14.42
just for a hot
flashes, for those mood swings
00:19:14.45\00:19:18.05
and its simple salt glow
that you just rub salt on
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you know, your whole
body, you do it in a certain way
00:19:21.57\00:19:24.15
and there is different wraps
00:19:24.18\00:19:25.87
like people who have
anxiety attacks, panic attacks,
00:19:25.90\00:19:29.34
those kind of things
that we just wrap them up
00:19:29.37\00:19:32.52
and keep them in a
wrap for maybe an hour
00:19:32.55\00:19:36.34
and its amazing what happens.
00:19:36.37\00:19:38.39
Even kids, when you give
kids a massage for ADD, ADHD
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just amazing how
they respond to that.
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They become calmer,
they are able to focus
00:19:46.31\00:19:51.04
and they do well in school.
00:19:51.07\00:19:52.97
And we've even had
teachers come back and say
00:19:53.00\00:19:55.18
wow, what
medication is your boy on?
00:19:55.21\00:19:58.04
And it's like
there is no medication
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its just plain massage.
00:20:00.52\00:20:02.57
You wouldn't think that
there would be a connection
00:20:02.60\00:20:04.57
between massage and
really calming a child down
00:20:04.60\00:20:07.06
that sort of not focused
00:20:07.09\00:20:08.32
and just kind of
all over the place,
00:20:08.35\00:20:10.23
that is a wonderful.
00:20:10.26\00:20:11.37
Now, if I wanted to come
away with some sort of degree
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or paper in massage therapy
00:20:15.24\00:20:19.12
does Black Hills provide
that and how long is the course?
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It's a five and
half month course
00:20:23.64\00:20:26.14
and they come
away with a certificate
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which they can use
to take their MBLEX
00:20:28.55\00:20:31.28
which is a licensing exam.
00:20:31.31\00:20:34.83
So they can go to
different states and practice
00:20:34.86\00:20:38.58
and then they are
eligible to be to have a career.
00:20:38.61\00:20:42.08
So that's the nice thing.
00:20:42.11\00:20:44.29
Not just a certification
but because its state certified
00:20:44.32\00:20:47.71
they are able to
work when they are done.
00:20:47.74\00:20:50.29
So they can combine
this with medical ministry
00:20:50.32\00:20:53.50
and just really
minister to people's needs.
00:20:53.53\00:20:55.68
Because we even teach them
how to pray with their clients.
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Oh, praise the Lord.
00:21:00.32\00:21:01.41
That's-- so walk
me through this now.
00:21:01.44\00:21:04.43
So I'm a person who
comes out of Black Hills
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with certificate
in massage therapy
00:21:08.17\00:21:11.17
what knowledge base do they have
00:21:11.20\00:21:13.06
as far as what to do,
how to do it, body parts,
00:21:13.09\00:21:15.83
what not to do,
what do they know?
00:21:15.86\00:21:19.10
Some other the basic
courses are anatomy, physiology,
00:21:19.13\00:21:22.53
pathology.
00:21:22.56\00:21:23.75
So when things go
wrong like diabetes and that
00:21:23.78\00:21:26.82
that they study that and know
00:21:26.85\00:21:28.32
how to work with
these types of clients.
00:21:28.35\00:21:30.73
Then there is kinesiology
00:21:30.76\00:21:33.15
and on top of all of
that is the hands on.
00:21:33.18\00:21:35.75
The Swedish massage,
deep tissue, sports massage
00:21:35.78\00:21:39.91
which is a lot of
fun and chair massage
00:21:39.94\00:21:43.93
it's just a lot of
different higher end.
00:21:43.96\00:21:46.77
lymph massage,
myofascial, neuromuscular
00:21:46.80\00:21:50.10
that they will be learning
00:21:50.13\00:21:51.48
so that they can see all
different types of patients
00:21:51.51\00:21:54.85
or clients.
00:21:54.88\00:21:56.55
And also we are going to
have a variety of instructors.
00:21:56.58\00:22:01.18
So it's not just
gonna be one person
00:22:01.21\00:22:03.12
teaching the whole program.
00:22:03.15\00:22:04.72
It will be
people who are experts
00:22:04.75\00:22:06.55
in that certain area.
00:22:06.58\00:22:08.31
So say pathology
will almost likely have
00:22:08.34\00:22:10.81
either like a
medical student or a nurse,
00:22:10.84\00:22:13.56
someone who is professional
in that area teaching.
00:22:13.59\00:22:16.54
Same thing with
anatomy in physiology
00:22:16.57\00:22:18.55
we have a physician
who is teaching that.
00:22:18.58\00:22:21.39
Okay.
00:22:21.42\00:22:22.45
So lots of
different instructors,
00:22:22.48\00:22:24.73
so it makes it more
interesting to the students.
00:22:24.76\00:22:27.79
In that way the
program doesn't just fold
00:22:27.82\00:22:30.45
if one person walks away.
00:22:30.48\00:22:31.96
I see. I see.
00:22:31.99\00:22:33.05
So as a consultant what are
you trying to get the people
00:22:33.08\00:22:36.91
or the-- at Black Hills
00:22:36.94\00:22:38.37
to try to
understand or to put into place
00:22:38.40\00:22:40.09
so that this is
an effective course?
00:22:40.12\00:22:42.29
Well, we are trying to get
all the instructors into place.
00:22:42.32\00:22:45.10
We have a coordinator
Bethany who is just awesome,
00:22:45.13\00:22:49.85
that's gonna be in
touch with the students.
00:22:49.88\00:22:51.84
So when the students call in
00:22:51.87\00:22:53.67
that's who they
will be talking to.
00:22:53.70\00:22:55.79
And so she will
help to make sure
00:22:55.82\00:22:57.33
that the instructor
show up and the students
00:22:57.36\00:23:00.86
and the students
will be wearing scrubs
00:23:00.89\00:23:03.17
so that's their uniform
00:23:03.20\00:23:04.48
and then when they
go out in the community
00:23:04.51\00:23:06.12
and that's something
that we really want to do
00:23:06.15\00:23:08.53
is get them in the
community doing chair massage
00:23:08.56\00:23:11.77
and working at sports events.
00:23:11.80\00:23:14.00
So this way we get
them out in the community
00:23:14.03\00:23:16.60
and bring the
community back to Black Hills
00:23:16.63\00:23:20.21
and to see, you
know, the professionalism,
00:23:20.24\00:23:23.67
the high education, quality,
00:23:23.70\00:23:26.68
you know, that set
these institutions.
00:23:26.71\00:23:28.33
So hands on is an
integral part of the curriculum?
00:23:28.36\00:23:31.65
Absolutely.
00:23:31.68\00:23:32.71
Lots of hands on,
lots of experience.
00:23:32.74\00:23:35.36
We are also gonna have a clinic.
00:23:35.39\00:23:37.42
So it's a community
clinic where they pay
00:23:37.45\00:23:40.32
or their charge maybe
$25-$30 for a treatment
00:23:40.35\00:23:44.24
which most people can afford
and the community comes in
00:23:44.27\00:23:48.04
and it becomes like a
family which is really nice.
00:23:48.07\00:23:50.91
Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:50.94\00:23:51.97
And then they get
low cost treatments
00:23:52.00\00:23:54.08
and are able to tell
other people about it.
00:23:54.11\00:23:56.32
I like the idea that
Black Hills gets to interface
00:23:56.35\00:23:58.70
with the
community by doing this.
00:23:58.73\00:24:00.15
Now I need to ask
you Mr. Development guy,
00:24:00.18\00:24:02.72
is there a market for,
are there a lot of people
00:24:02.75\00:24:06.25
who want to
learn these techniques?
00:24:06.28\00:24:08.05
Yes. Yes.
00:24:08.08\00:24:09.12
Yeah.
00:24:09.15\00:24:10.51
I would say absolutely.
00:24:10.54\00:24:12.54
Massage is a-- its
been around forever
00:24:12.57\00:24:16.10
but it is a ever
expanding industry
00:24:16.13\00:24:20.65
and you just hear
more and more about it
00:24:20.68\00:24:23.43
and of course you have
so many different methods
00:24:23.46\00:24:27.34
that you can what you want to do
00:24:27.37\00:24:29.05
I call it a fluffy massage
00:24:29.08\00:24:30.27
which will be a Swedish massage,
00:24:30.30\00:24:31.82
which is that feel good
that you are talking about.
00:24:31.85\00:24:33.65
Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:33.68\00:24:35.14
But if you want to
do more therapeutic
00:24:35.17\00:24:38.24
that's, you know, it's great
00:24:38.27\00:24:40.03
because we
offer not just Swedish
00:24:40.06\00:24:43.47
but more specific massages
00:24:43.50\00:24:45.76
and you can go out and
start your own practice
00:24:45.79\00:24:49.21
or you can work
for somebody else.
00:24:49.24\00:24:51.58
Its just really very--
00:24:51.61\00:24:55.69
there's so many
ways you could go.
00:24:55.72\00:24:57.37
And as I was going that so
that you're training people
00:24:57.40\00:25:00.27
so that when they leave
they've got a marketable skill
00:25:00.30\00:25:03.02
that they can
take and earn money.
00:25:03.05\00:25:04.42
I mean, this is not something
like where you got this degree
00:25:04.45\00:25:06.18
and you can't do
anything with it.
00:25:06.21\00:25:07.49
There is a need out
there and a call out there
00:25:07.52\00:25:09.73
and a desire for
this kind of skill.
00:25:09.76\00:25:11.57
Absolutely. Yeah.
00:25:11.60\00:25:12.63
You know, not
still from Carola hear
00:25:12.66\00:25:15.67
but there is actually
business component to a class
00:25:15.70\00:25:19.45
is that kind of gets them
on track of what should I do,
00:25:19.48\00:25:22.79
what shouldn't I
do, what do I need to do
00:25:22.82\00:25:25.30
as far as getting my
own practice going on.
00:25:25.33\00:25:28.26
Very good. Yeah.
00:25:28.29\00:25:29.32
Yeah. It's great.
00:25:29.35\00:25:30.47
It's a real good package.
00:25:30.50\00:25:31.70
Yeah, it sounds like that,
00:25:31.73\00:25:32.78
this is kind of a one
stop shopping kind of thing.
00:25:32.81\00:25:35.46
We will give you the skills
00:25:35.49\00:25:36.62
and then we also
give you methodology
00:25:36.65\00:25:38.41
so that you can go
out and act to get a job
00:25:38.44\00:25:39.50
due to this knowledge.
00:25:39.53\00:25:40.56
If you are comfortable.
00:25:40.59\00:25:41.62
Yeah, praise the Lord.
00:25:41.65\00:25:42.68
And its also based
on Christian principles
00:25:42.71\00:25:45.68
which a lot of
the massage schools
00:25:45.71\00:25:48.05
nowadays are you
know, more new age.
00:25:48.08\00:25:51.67
This is all based on
Christian principles.
00:25:51.70\00:25:53.70
Yeah. Now I'm
glad you said that.
00:25:53.73\00:25:55.09
That's very, very important
because there are aspects
00:25:55.12\00:25:58.05
they get into yoga and get
into some other kinds of things.
00:25:58.08\00:26:00.44
You are not into that.
00:26:00.47\00:26:01.50
You are on Christian principles.
00:26:01.53\00:26:02.84
Excellent. Excellent.
00:26:02.87\00:26:03.90
Excellent.
00:26:03.93\00:26:04.96
I want to move over to Ronda.
00:26:04.99\00:26:07.80
We didn't call you here
just to be a pretty face
00:26:07.83\00:26:09.88
we actually want you to
talk about the wellness center.
00:26:09.91\00:26:14.28
First tell me what
the wellness center is.
00:26:14.31\00:26:17.20
Well, the wellness center is
00:26:17.23\00:26:18.72
where the people
come and stay for 18 days.
00:26:18.75\00:26:21.77
We do have an 11 day program
00:26:21.80\00:26:23.35
but most people
need the 18 days.
00:26:23.38\00:26:25.79
And we teach them
how to live healthier
00:26:25.82\00:26:31.68
through diet and
exercise, hydrotherapy, massage.
00:26:31.71\00:26:36.72
We actually educate them,
why these things are important
00:26:36.75\00:26:41.18
and we just
teach them everything
00:26:41.21\00:26:46.29
they need to do to go
home and life healthfully.
00:26:46.32\00:26:48.99
They actually get in the kitchen
00:26:49.02\00:26:50.10
and help cook in cooking labs
00:26:50.13\00:26:52.89
and it's just a
really amazing program.
00:26:52.92\00:26:57.03
They visit the
doctor, we do lab work
00:26:57.06\00:26:59.45
to see where they are at
00:26:59.48\00:27:01.20
and we have a fitness center,
00:27:01.23\00:27:05.46
we have a
wonderful fitness center
00:27:05.49\00:27:07.55
with like 30 different
exercise machines and stations.
00:27:07.58\00:27:11.99
Yeah.
00:27:12.02\00:27:13.08
And a fitness trainer that
just helps them individually
00:27:13.11\00:27:17.92
what they need to work on
00:27:17.95\00:27:20.11
and just kind of
tailor it for their needs.
00:27:20.14\00:27:23.19
Yeah, yeah.
00:27:23.22\00:27:24.25
When I was there I was in that
fitness center every morning
00:27:24.28\00:27:28.03
but I found one of the nicest,
00:27:28.06\00:27:30.21
most refreshing
things was to walk.
00:27:30.24\00:27:32.35
We went out and you
got some beautiful trails
00:27:32.38\00:27:34.82
and you're also
having that good clean air.
00:27:34.85\00:27:36.70
So I suspect
00:27:36.73\00:27:37.76
that's an integral
part of the program also.
00:27:37.79\00:27:39.38
Yes.
00:27:39.41\00:27:40.45
We really
encourage them to get outside
00:27:40.48\00:27:42.61
and we have like you
said wonderful places to walk
00:27:42.64\00:27:45.48
and we have
actually a group walk
00:27:45.51\00:27:47.62
where you can walk together
00:27:47.65\00:27:49.55
and it's just a really
00:27:49.58\00:27:53.66
a nice camaraderi that develops
and people really enjoy.
00:27:53.69\00:27:59.22
It's not just boot
camp its all hard work,
00:27:59.25\00:28:02.56
it's a lot of good times. Yeah.
00:28:02.59\00:28:06.62
Now, I assume there
I went out as a speaker
00:28:06.65\00:28:09.23
for the camp meeting
00:28:09.26\00:28:10.53
but I said since I'm here
and my wife and I are both here
00:28:10.56\00:28:13.51
we might as well immerse
ourselves into the program.
00:28:13.54\00:28:16.29
You know, so we kind of
jumped into the boot camp
00:28:16.32\00:28:19.37
and other thing
00:28:19.40\00:28:20.49
but I found it very refreshing
00:28:20.52\00:28:22.99
and in talking with
the people who were there.
00:28:23.02\00:28:25.17
And maybe we need
to talk about this,
00:28:25.20\00:28:26.79
what are the kinds of I'll use
patients of clients that come?
00:28:26.82\00:28:31.92
Is there anyone
that is too sick to take,
00:28:31.95\00:28:34.27
are you looking for a specific
kinds of things to heal.
00:28:34.30\00:28:36.82
You take whatever comes?
00:28:36.85\00:28:37.88
Walk me through the
mindset of the people
00:28:37.91\00:28:39.89
that come to Black Hills.
00:28:39.92\00:28:41.72
Well, the only
real restriction we have
00:28:41.75\00:28:44.83
is they have to be able to
walk or take care of themselves.
00:28:44.86\00:28:51.83
But we get all
kinds of problems,
00:28:51.86\00:28:56.28
common ones are like
heart diseases, hypertension,
00:28:56.31\00:28:58.91
diabetes,
00:28:58.94\00:28:59.99
but arthritis,
muscular skeletal problems,
00:29:00.02\00:29:05.05
depression is becoming
much more of a diagnosis
00:29:05.08\00:29:09.87
that we see even
though it can be right along
00:29:09.90\00:29:12.04
with all the
other medical problems.
00:29:12.07\00:29:15.90
We also have some health coaches
00:29:15.93\00:29:20.55
that help
spiritually and mentally
00:29:20.58\00:29:23.49
and we have
seen wonderful things
00:29:23.52\00:29:25.60
happen with that.
00:29:25.63\00:29:26.67
They are helping
you to find tools
00:29:26.70\00:29:31.25
that help you to deal with
mental or emotional problems,
00:29:31.28\00:29:35.34
depression, anything like that.
00:29:35.37\00:29:38.00
It's just amazing to see
how the simple principles
00:29:38.03\00:29:42.63
that God has give us work
00:29:42.66\00:29:44.41
not only physically
00:29:44.44\00:29:45.47
but mentally and
emotionally as well.
00:29:45.50\00:29:49.12
That's--
00:29:49.15\00:29:50.18
You weave into your treatment.
00:29:50.21\00:29:54.79
The idea and I've heard it
00:29:54.82\00:29:57.71
all three you
sort of allude to it.
00:29:57.74\00:29:59.89
There is a spiritual component
00:30:00.66\00:30:01.91
that under
guards all that you do.
00:30:01.94\00:30:03.60
So when a person
comes they are gonna get
00:30:03.63\00:30:06.19
quality medical care
00:30:06.22\00:30:08.28
but there is also
a spiritual component
00:30:08.31\00:30:11.72
that filters its
way into all of that.
00:30:11.75\00:30:13.56
What if a person
is opposed to that?
00:30:13.59\00:30:17.26
I just want to get well.
00:30:17.29\00:30:18.32
I got depressed, I got this,
00:30:18.35\00:30:20.90
I don't really
see a need for that.
00:30:20.93\00:30:22.82
How do you address a person
that comes with that mindset?
00:30:22.85\00:30:26.22
We respect that.
00:30:26.25\00:30:28.82
You know, there is, like
there is a thought for the day
00:30:28.85\00:30:31.60
which is spiritual
00:30:31.63\00:30:33.14
but if they don't want
to attend that that's fine.
00:30:33.17\00:30:36.39
We respect people
from any belief system
00:30:36.42\00:30:40.43
and you know, we feel that
00:30:40.46\00:30:43.65
they are gonna
get a better benefit
00:30:43.68\00:30:45.72
if they have the
spiritual component as well
00:30:45.75\00:30:48.89
but that is their choice.
00:30:48.92\00:30:50.74
I would rather suspect though
00:30:50.77\00:30:51.96
that you don't get many
with that kind of mindset
00:30:51.99\00:30:54.21
because the fact is
that they are coming to you
00:30:54.24\00:30:56.06
and this is what you do.
00:30:56.09\00:30:57.60
They are kind of open to that.
00:30:57.63\00:30:58.72
Yes. Yeah.
00:30:58.75\00:30:59.79
Yeah. At least open to it.
00:30:59.82\00:31:02.04
Is there any particular reason
00:31:02.07\00:31:03.72
why an 18 day that
number fits or works,
00:31:03.75\00:31:07.77
that seems to be
the optimal number.
00:31:07.80\00:31:10.61
There are shorter programs
but 18 as supposed to 30 days
00:31:10.64\00:31:13.41
or 60 days or 90 that
seems to be a good fit
00:31:13.44\00:31:16.54
for health and for development.
00:31:16.57\00:31:19.07
Well, a couple of
things are probably involved.
00:31:19.10\00:31:21.55
Number one, people can't take
such a huge amount of time out
00:31:21.58\00:31:25.12
from work so you try to
make you know, fit into that.
00:31:25.15\00:31:28.80
But also it takes
a while to actually
00:31:28.83\00:31:34.24
change your lifestyle
and see those changes affect,
00:31:34.27\00:31:38.89
how you feel and
that kind of thing.
00:31:38.92\00:31:40.60
Actually they feel pretty good
00:31:40.63\00:31:42.44
usually within a
short amount of time
00:31:42.47\00:31:44.40
but that helps you to
feel like comfortable enough
00:31:44.43\00:31:49.29
with the habits
that you can go home
00:31:49.32\00:31:51.32
and do this at home and
that's the important thing.
00:31:51.35\00:31:54.83
Because if you
just come for 18 days,
00:31:54.86\00:31:57.67
you know, may have
been a nice pleasant 18 days
00:31:57.70\00:32:00.22
but really what counts is
00:32:00.25\00:32:01.86
what you do with
it when you go home.
00:32:01.89\00:32:03.60
And that's what we
are trying to teach them
00:32:03.63\00:32:05.65
and having grained
into their lifestyle is--
00:32:05.68\00:32:08.99
these are the things
00:32:09.02\00:32:10.05
that are gonna
help you feel better
00:32:10.08\00:32:11.11
for the rest of your life.
00:32:11.14\00:32:13.61
So you are
trying to put in things
00:32:13.64\00:32:14.81
that they can't
it's not go in Hawaii
00:32:14.84\00:32:16.86
then you forgot
about when you get out.
00:32:16.89\00:32:18.13
We need you to carry on
00:32:18.16\00:32:19.54
and I suspect
that's an important part
00:32:19.57\00:32:21.55
of what you try
to teach them that
00:32:21.58\00:32:22.80
it does no good
to just come here
00:32:22.83\00:32:25.25
and 18 days of this
regiment and then go home
00:32:25.28\00:32:28.23
and return back
to your old life.
00:32:28.26\00:32:29.48
Exactly. Yeah.
00:32:29.51\00:32:30.94
Very true, yes. Very good.
00:32:30.97\00:32:32.92
Most of clients are
referred to word of mouth,
00:32:32.95\00:32:36.91
how do you get
the people that come?
00:32:36.94\00:32:39.21
Some people just
go on the internet
00:32:39.24\00:32:40.80
and find us there,
00:32:40.83\00:32:43.93
others word of mouth.
00:32:43.96\00:32:45.27
People that have been
there say, oh, yeah, you know,
00:32:45.30\00:32:47.54
this is where you need to be.
00:32:47.57\00:32:48.76
Anyway that they just call
us and we work through them
00:32:50.72\00:32:53.83
the process of
helping them get there.
00:32:53.86\00:32:57.90
They could
maybe even watch 3ABN.
00:32:57.93\00:33:00.16
Oh, you think? Praise the Lord.
00:33:02.19\00:33:04.13
I want to talk
about a couple things
00:33:04.16\00:33:05.50
because when we talk
about a place like Black Hills
00:33:05.54\00:33:08.44
you have doctors there.
00:33:08.47\00:33:11.17
I mean, this is not--
00:33:11.20\00:33:12.58
you both have nursing background
00:33:12.61\00:33:13.95
so we've got
medical care at that level
00:33:13.98\00:33:16.18
but there are
doctors and physicians there
00:33:16.21\00:33:17.91
who are part of the
overall treatment, are they not?
00:33:17.94\00:33:20.13
Yes, and they see the
doctor once or twice a week.
00:33:20.16\00:33:24.17
We do lab tests
when they come in
00:33:24.20\00:33:26.17
and also when they leave.
00:33:26.20\00:33:27.70
Also the 18 day program is
what we call the full medical.
00:33:27.73\00:33:33.10
That means they see the doctor,
00:33:33.13\00:33:34.84
have the lab tests, you know,
all the other things as well.
00:33:34.87\00:33:39.07
And then we have a mini medical
00:33:39.10\00:33:41.71
which we allow
people to go into it
00:33:41.74\00:33:45.12
that don't necessarily need
the supervision of the doctor.
00:33:45.15\00:33:48.75
We check them when they come in,
00:33:48.78\00:33:50.04
we do some lab work
and things like that
00:33:50.07\00:33:51.93
but they don't
have health issues
00:33:51.96\00:33:55.85
that they are really needing
a doctors continued care.
00:33:55.88\00:33:59.35
And then we have
a tune-up program
00:33:59.38\00:34:02.02
which is for those
00:34:02.05\00:34:03.21
who really don't
have any health issues.
00:34:03.24\00:34:05.49
They just want to
have a healthy vacation
00:34:05.52\00:34:09.62
or learn how to stay healthy,
00:34:09.91\00:34:15.35
you know, and just want
some relaxing time away.
00:34:15.38\00:34:18.76
We keep them busy but--
00:34:18.79\00:34:20.00
Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:20.03\00:34:21.06
So there is different things.
00:34:21.50\00:34:22.74
Let me ask you
one of those kind of
00:34:22.77\00:34:24.38
high concept on
to logical questions
00:34:24.41\00:34:26.39
we threw out every now and then.
00:34:26.42\00:34:28.47
We live in a
world where people want,
00:34:28.50\00:34:30.19
they want it they want it now.
00:34:30.23\00:34:31.81
Give me a pill in the
morning I want this to be gone.
00:34:33.42\00:34:36.68
Why would a person
come to Black Hills?
00:34:36.71\00:34:40.22
You know, I'm trying
to figure the mindset
00:34:40.25\00:34:43.68
that of the things
that you have to offer.
00:34:43.71\00:34:45.69
Go to your local
hospital, go to your local gym,
00:34:46.54\00:34:48.75
why would a person
stop their routine,
00:34:50.24\00:34:52.57
put their life on hold
and come to Black Hills?
00:34:52.60\00:34:55.11
What is it about
Black Hills that would say
00:34:55.14\00:34:57.62
you need to be here because
00:34:57.65\00:34:59.62
we are doing
something different than just
00:34:59.65\00:35:02.08
running to your doctor
00:35:02.11\00:35:03.14
or running to a
CVS and getting a pill?
00:35:03.17\00:35:05.05
What is it about Black
Hills that would draw a person
00:35:05.08\00:35:07.54
and then give
them something of value
00:35:07.57\00:35:09.42
that may affect the
rest of their lives?
00:35:09.45\00:35:10.85
Well, you know, have
you heard of epigenetic?
00:35:10.98\00:35:15.28
It's something
that's relatively new.
00:35:15.31\00:35:17.54
I mean, its been
around for a few years but
00:35:17.57\00:35:21.44
they are studying
the fact that our genes,
00:35:21.47\00:35:25.11
you know, we
sometimes think that
00:35:25.14\00:35:26.48
well, I've just got bad
genes that's' the reason
00:35:26.51\00:35:28.56
I've got all
these health issues.
00:35:28.59\00:35:30.85
But actually
they are discovering
00:35:30.88\00:35:32.77
more and more that our genes
00:35:32.80\00:35:35.39
its like they say the
heredity loads the gun
00:35:37.11\00:35:42.12
but lifestyle pulls the trigger
and really they have found
00:35:42.15\00:35:47.13
that about 70
percent of our health
00:35:47.16\00:35:49.99
is determined by the
lifestyle that we live.
00:35:50.02\00:35:52.90
What we eat, what we exercise,
the stress all these things
00:35:52.93\00:35:57.12
make a huge different
much more than our genes.
00:35:57.32\00:36:01.09
Because the
lifestyle you can have a gene
00:36:01.12\00:36:04.55
that says you are
going to-- in your family
00:36:04.58\00:36:06.89
they are gonna
have high cholesterol
00:36:06.92\00:36:08.86
or diabetes or whatever
00:36:08.89\00:36:11.54
but you can turn that gene off
00:36:11.57\00:36:15.65
through lifestyle.
00:36:15.68\00:36:17.70
So it's really the
most important component
00:36:17.73\00:36:21.82
of being healthy
00:36:21.85\00:36:22.88
is what you are
doing in your lifestyle
00:36:22.91\00:36:25.14
and that's exciting
because we can change that.
00:36:25.17\00:36:27.88
We can't change your genes
00:36:27.91\00:36:29.85
but we can change
which of those are expressed.
00:36:29.88\00:36:32.78
Turned on so to speak.
00:36:32.81\00:36:34.00
Yeah. I like it.
00:36:34.03\00:36:35.06
Well, and what is exciting
not to over use that word
00:36:35.09\00:36:39.08
but the fact that
science is actually
00:36:39.11\00:36:40.90
able to study that now
00:36:40.93\00:36:42.40
and watch those
often on switches
00:36:42.43\00:36:45.58
as we change our lifestyle
00:36:45.61\00:36:47.29
and the
corrections in our health.
00:36:47.32\00:36:49.23
So its really
very fascinating feel
00:36:49.26\00:36:52.76
that is growing
by leaps and bounds.
00:36:52.79\00:36:54.80
The picture that I'm getting
and what makes a Black Hills
00:36:54.83\00:36:57.81
so necessary is
that we need time to get,
00:36:57.84\00:37:03.07
to use a phrase into your head
00:37:03.10\00:37:05.40
because what's
going in your head
00:37:05.43\00:37:06.62
is gonna affect your body.
00:37:06.65\00:37:07.68
So we need to pull you
out of your nine to five,
00:37:07.71\00:37:10.34
your work a day,
get you away from that
00:37:10.37\00:37:12.67
so we can rearrange
what's happening here
00:37:12.70\00:37:15.48
so then you can
change what's happening here.
00:37:15.51\00:37:18.09
Is that kind of what
we are going with this?
00:37:18.12\00:37:19.61
Yes, absolutely.
00:37:19.64\00:37:20.67
And you know
there are environment
00:37:20.70\00:37:22.82
whenever you go there
00:37:22.86\00:37:24.94
is absolutely,
it's so beautiful.
00:37:24.97\00:37:27.41
You just walk on
00:37:27.44\00:37:28.83
and here is this
beauty that you just,
00:37:28.86\00:37:32.90
you can't help but
take a great big deep breath
00:37:32.93\00:37:34.95
and relax.
00:37:34.98\00:37:36.38
And we hear that
comment frequently.
00:37:36.41\00:37:38.65
You look in the
picture Black Hills
00:37:38.68\00:37:40.06
is a surpassing beautiful place.
00:37:40.09\00:37:42.11
As I said like you--
00:37:42.14\00:37:43.89
we drove in at night
and it was just pitch black
00:37:43.92\00:37:46.45
and you just kind of,
00:37:46.48\00:37:47.99
you can see as far as
the headlights take you
00:37:48.02\00:37:50.00
but when the sun comes
up you are into this beauty
00:37:50.03\00:37:51.99
and I must say that
I'm an New York city guy
00:37:52.02\00:37:53.69
but that environment
is got to be conducive
00:37:53.80\00:37:55.99
to some kind of
growth in your heart
00:37:56.02\00:37:58.57
and in your mind
because its just--
00:37:58.60\00:37:59.79
you are in nature,
00:37:59.82\00:38:00.85
you are out there
and its just beautiful.
00:38:00.88\00:38:02.25
It really is.
00:38:02.28\00:38:03.31
Yeah, the two
pictures we just saw
00:38:03.34\00:38:05.55
one was taken
from Inspiration Point
00:38:05.58\00:38:10.12
which is upon
one of those cliffs,
00:38:10.15\00:38:11.78
one of those cliffs
and overlooks the valley
00:38:11.81\00:38:14.15
and that was just
one little segment
00:38:14.18\00:38:16.00
that you can see
on Inspiration Point
00:38:16.03\00:38:19.12
and but the
valley is quite long.
00:38:19.15\00:38:21.45
Then the other
picture was Battle Creek.
00:38:21.99\00:38:25.10
And Battle Creek has
nothing to do with Battle Creek
00:38:25.13\00:38:27.66
that we understand that to do
00:38:27.69\00:38:29.97
with the local
Indian population there.
00:38:30.00\00:38:33.52
How they had their
skirmishes next to that creek.
00:38:33.55\00:38:35.87
Yeah. Yeah. So lot of history.
00:38:35.90\00:38:37.33
Really, really,
when we took out walk
00:38:37.36\00:38:39.29
and we went through forest,
we went through kind of meadow,
00:38:39.32\00:38:42.02
we went over big
rocks, we did rushing water,
00:38:42.05\00:38:45.43
there's all
different kinds of terrain
00:38:45.46\00:38:47.01
within just a few
miles and you can diverse
00:38:47.04\00:38:49.99
and it was really,
really, just a refreshing time.
00:38:50.02\00:38:52.50
Well, you know, what,
00:38:52.53\00:38:53.94
its kind of fun,
its kind of a side
00:38:53.97\00:38:56.04
from what we are
doing on campus there
00:38:56.07\00:38:58.16
but we have, we are
in such a historical area
00:38:58.19\00:39:01.02
with Mount
Rushmore and Crazy Horse
00:39:01.05\00:39:03.61
and it just goes on and on.
00:39:03.64\00:39:05.14
That's one of the fun things
we get to do on a weekends.
00:39:05.17\00:39:07.82
Yes. Yes. Yeah.
00:39:07.85\00:39:09.25
We have two weekends and
on both Sabbath and Sunday
00:39:09.28\00:39:12.96
we do day
appropriate things for those
00:39:13.87\00:39:16.97
and so people get to
come and get better health
00:39:17.00\00:39:20.36
and go see one of
the most spectacular
00:39:20.39\00:39:22.26
manmade things
of Mount Rushmore.
00:39:22.29\00:39:23.95
Literally I think its 13
or 14 miles down the road
00:39:24.35\00:39:28.07
so a real easy drive and
then just so real beauty.
00:39:28.10\00:39:32.15
Yeah, I remember being
in church Sabbath morning
00:39:32.18\00:39:33.90
and then Sabbath
afternoon out in nature
00:39:33.93\00:39:35.97
and then Sunday we
went back and actually,
00:39:36.00\00:39:37.71
you know, the Crazy Horse,
Mount Rushmore kind of thing.
00:39:37.74\00:39:40.47
And then we herds of
buffalo and kind of thing.
00:39:40.50\00:39:42.29
Its just it's for a person
who spend a lot of time in city
00:39:42.32\00:39:45.69
breathing second-hand air
and smoke everything else so,
00:39:45.72\00:39:48.62
get out there
and to be in nature
00:39:48.65\00:39:50.36
and to see those things.
00:39:50.39\00:39:51.42
I think there is something
that does on in your heart,
00:39:51.45\00:39:53.23
in your soul
just being in nature
00:39:53.26\00:39:54.93
and breathing the air.
00:39:54.96\00:39:56.23
And being part
of that experience.
00:39:56.26\00:39:57.43
Yeah. Yes.
00:39:57.46\00:39:58.84
Then you get a
good massage, you know.
00:39:58.87\00:40:02.34
That's a good stuff.
How can you leave it?
00:40:02.37\00:40:06.29
Before our time gets over
00:40:06.32\00:40:07.35
and I'm looking at the
back end of my notes here,
00:40:07.38\00:40:09.35
you got some
actual miracle stories.
00:40:09.38\00:40:12.21
This of the--
00:40:12.24\00:40:13.27
I mean, you got some proof
that this kind of thing works.
00:40:13.30\00:40:15.67
You mentioned, I see
a young boy with ADHA
00:40:17.64\00:40:21.22
and I mean,
medical sciences said
00:40:21.25\00:40:23.81
the only way to
deal with that innocent
00:40:23.84\00:40:25.18
is dope him up or
give him some kind of pill
00:40:25.21\00:40:27.02
or something but obviously
00:40:27.05\00:40:28.08
there are other ways
to kind of tackle that.
00:40:28.11\00:40:30.45
Are they not?
00:40:30.48\00:40:32.43
Well, even in our
clinic or student clinic
00:40:32.46\00:40:35.05
that we used to have
in Southern California
00:40:35.08\00:40:37.01
we had a young boy came
00:40:37.04\00:40:38.26
and took the
place of his father.
00:40:38.29\00:40:40.06
And as long as
the parents are there
00:40:40.09\00:40:42.31
we can work on the minor.
00:40:42.34\00:40:43.84
And so the mother was there
00:40:43.87\00:40:46.05
and she told us little
bit about her son having
00:40:46.08\00:40:49.05
always sleep disorders
and not doing well in school
00:40:49.08\00:40:52.65
and in being in
the lower classes
00:40:52.68\00:40:55.14
and she was very concerned
00:40:55.17\00:40:57.76
and they kept telling
her, get him on riddling,
00:40:57.79\00:40:59.84
get him on these
medications and she says no,
00:40:59.87\00:41:02.90
I'm not gonna do that.
00:41:02.93\00:41:04.06
Then he came to clinic
00:41:04.24\00:41:05.39
and took his
father's place for massage
00:41:05.42\00:41:08.47
and all he got was
just a Swedish massage
00:41:08.50\00:41:11.60
and then he went back
to school the next day
00:41:11.63\00:41:13.62
and the instructor
said or the teacher said,
00:41:13.65\00:41:16.54
what medication did
you put your boy no.
00:41:16.57\00:41:18.79
It's working wonderfully.
00:41:18.82\00:41:20.80
And so she got to
thinking and she is like well,
00:41:20.83\00:41:23.15
the only thing is he
had a massage last night.
00:41:23.18\00:41:26.32
And so he continued to come back
00:41:26.35\00:41:28.23
and I saw him recently
and he is a big boy now
00:41:28.26\00:41:31.90
and he went up in his
classes and just went to a,
00:41:31.93\00:41:36.40
you know, ended up
being in the normal classes
00:41:36.43\00:41:38.77
and doing well.
00:41:38.80\00:41:39.89
Praise the Lord.
Praise God. Praise God.
00:41:39.92\00:41:41.88
Some of these things, you
know, the outworking of just
00:41:42.91\00:41:46.95
bad eating habits
or bad living habits.
00:41:46.98\00:41:49.15
Do you see those
kind of dramatic changes
00:41:49.18\00:41:50.87
in that 18 day period?
00:41:50.90\00:41:52.12
Yes.
00:41:52.15\00:41:53.18
You know,
everything from losing weight
00:41:53.21\00:41:55.12
to lowering the
cholesterol, the blood pressure,
00:41:55.15\00:41:58.65
of course when they exercise too
00:41:58.68\00:42:01.64
and that's really helpful.
00:42:01.67\00:42:02.70
But all of that
combined it's a plant based diet
00:42:02.73\00:42:06.25
and its just amazing
00:42:06.28\00:42:09.29
the results we
see in the lab work.
00:42:09.32\00:42:10.96
I mean, which is something
objective that you can see,
00:42:10.99\00:42:13.96
you know, it was here
00:42:13.99\00:42:15.02
and it went down
55 points or whatever.
00:42:15.05\00:42:18.19
And it's pretty convincing.
00:42:18.22\00:42:21.18
I mean, we work in this
and so we see it all the time
00:42:21.21\00:42:24.85
and it kind of
gets like old hat.
00:42:24.88\00:42:26.24
That's yeah,
that's what we expect.
00:42:26.27\00:42:27.95
If you forget the
miracle that really is then
00:42:28.66\00:42:31.40
you know, that God has made us.
00:42:31.43\00:42:33.56
If we eat right and
take care of our bodies
00:42:33.59\00:42:36.91
that we don't have to
00:42:36.94\00:42:39.22
go through all the
pain and suffering.
00:42:39.25\00:42:43.13
So obviously you get
the anecdotal evidence
00:42:43.16\00:42:45.63
oh, boy, I feel better
but you also got the metrics
00:42:45.66\00:42:47.42
to you got some hard
facts in front of that.
00:42:47.45\00:42:49.64
You do A,B,C,D
this is gonna happen.
00:42:49.67\00:42:51.83
Yeah. And you see that.
00:42:51.86\00:42:52.89
I mean, everybody is,
everybody is little different
00:42:52.92\00:42:54.99
and genes does play into it
00:42:55.02\00:42:57.45
but you know, you can improve it
00:42:57.48\00:43:00.15
even with bad genes or whatever.
00:43:00.18\00:43:02.67
And often times its
not everything like I said
00:43:02.70\00:43:05.74
that happens in the 18 days
00:43:05.77\00:43:08.16
sometimes things really
progress after you leave.
00:43:08.19\00:43:11.70
So it's a combination of
we see amazing things there
00:43:11.73\00:43:15.10
but for some people
it takes little longer.
00:43:15.13\00:43:17.27
Depending on how long
they have had a bad lifestyle
00:43:17.30\00:43:21.13
you know, sometimes
it takes little longer
00:43:21.16\00:43:23.08
to get things moving
in the right direction.
00:43:23.11\00:43:25.27
Praise the Lord. Praise God.
00:43:25.30\00:43:26.89
That is very, very
excited, exciting rather.
00:43:26.92\00:43:30.65
Do people as
their health gets better
00:43:32.67\00:43:36.32
do you have incidents
00:43:36.35\00:43:37.59
when they do get a
better hold on Jesus,
00:43:37.62\00:43:39.69
on who He is.
00:43:39.72\00:43:40.81
Do you see that happen also?
00:43:40.84\00:43:42.15
Yes. Very much so.
00:43:42.18\00:43:44.35
You know, it's
amazing how when people start
00:43:44.38\00:43:46.60
feeling better
their priorities change.
00:43:46.63\00:43:49.52
They start seeing things
different and they say, wow.
00:43:49.55\00:43:55.03
You know, this is amazing.
00:43:55.06\00:43:56.68
If God told us how to do things
physically to make us healthy,
00:43:56.71\00:44:01.07
you know, let's
see what else He says.
00:44:01.10\00:44:02.70
I mean, it's just
a natural reaction
00:44:02.73\00:44:04.95
that happens.
00:44:04.98\00:44:06.39
It's quite amazing to people's
spiritual changes as well.
00:44:06.42\00:44:09.80
And they have
time to stop and think.
00:44:09.83\00:44:12.16
You know, we are
so busy sometimes
00:44:12.19\00:44:14.19
in life that we don't
have time to stop and think
00:44:14.22\00:44:17.54
about really
what are my priorities
00:44:17.57\00:44:19.64
and where do I want
to go, what I want to do
00:44:19.67\00:44:22.54
and so when they have time
to and feel better they really--
00:44:22.57\00:44:26.89
it's just a life
changing experience really.
00:44:26.92\00:44:29.24
Praise the Lord.
00:44:29.27\00:44:30.30
I found and I don't know
00:44:30.33\00:44:31.44
if it was something
you guys did or it just,
00:44:31.47\00:44:33.87
my cell phone
does not always work,
00:44:33.90\00:44:36.15
did not always
work at Black Hills.
00:44:36.18\00:44:37.21
Yeah.
00:44:37.24\00:44:38.27
I don't know if
that providential or--
00:44:39.85\00:44:41.14
Yeah, we're gonna
say it's a God thing
00:44:41.17\00:44:42.97
but a place that I
could not get a signal
00:44:43.00\00:44:45.69
and I said, maybe not if
the Lord is doing something.
00:44:45.72\00:44:47.98
Praise the Lord. Yeah.
00:44:48.01\00:44:50.53
A little forth downtime
so that you can concentrate
00:44:50.56\00:44:53.70
on what's going on and
maybe that's not so bad.
00:44:53.73\00:44:56.48
Yeah.
00:44:56.51\00:44:57.86
I want to before
we go to our music
00:44:57.89\00:44:59.31
just take a moment before
our time slips away to give you
00:44:59.34\00:45:02.63
the contact
information for Black Hills.
00:45:02.66\00:45:05.42
Because probably
you heard something
00:45:05.45\00:45:07.70
that has tweaked your interest,
you may want to take some time
00:45:07.73\00:45:12.13
and really just get
healthy and get a new mindset
00:45:12.16\00:45:15.74
and contact them
because they are certainly
00:45:15.77\00:45:19.15
have some
information to give you.
00:45:19.18\00:45:20.30
Should you want
to make contact with
00:45:20.33\00:45:22.02
Black Hills Health and Heal--
00:45:22.05\00:45:24.41
HHEC, here's how you
can do precisely that.
00:45:24.44\00:45:29.56
If you would like
to reclaim your health
00:45:32.07\00:45:34.04
and learn the
secrets of on going wellness
00:45:34.07\00:45:36.21
then you could write
00:45:36.24\00:45:37.27
to Black Hills
Health and Education Center.
00:45:37.30\00:45:39.60
PO Box 19, Hermosa,
South Dakota, 57744.
00:45:39.63\00:45:44.92
That's Black Hills
Health and Education Center.
00:45:44.95\00:45:47.62
PO Box 19, Hermosa,
South Dakota, 57744.
00:45:47.65\00:45:53.06
You can call 605-255-4101.
00:45:53.09\00:45:57.63
That's 605-255-4101.
00:45:57.66\00:46:01.55
Or visit their
website at bhhec.org
00:46:01.58\00:46:06.11
and find out how
their health programs
00:46:06.14\00:46:07.90
can benefit you.
00:46:07.93\00:46:09.29
That's bhhec.org.
00:46:09.32\00:46:12.94
All right, well
that information there.
00:46:17.59\00:46:20.21
You were talking about
00:46:20.24\00:46:21.27
an exploratory
children's program
00:46:21.30\00:46:22.86
that you are sort of playing
with, walk me through that.
00:46:22.89\00:46:25.06
Well, you know, we
are just in process.
00:46:25.09\00:46:28.57
In fact, Ronda
and I had been talking
00:46:28.60\00:46:30.09
about it for several months.
00:46:30.12\00:46:31.83
Probably most
people have noticed that
00:46:33.87\00:46:35.35
the children's
health is getting worse
00:46:35.38\00:46:38.33
and some say that even children
00:46:38.36\00:46:40.41
are not going to live as long
as their parents did and so on.
00:46:40.44\00:46:44.08
And we're kind of
exploring the possibility
00:46:44.11\00:46:46.85
of maybe starting some kind of
00:46:46.88\00:46:49.29
a children's
health education program.
00:46:49.32\00:46:52.86
Whether or not that's on campus,
00:46:52.89\00:46:54.45
whether not that's off campus.
00:46:54.48\00:46:56.53
We are not exactly sure,
we are just trying to see
00:46:56.56\00:46:59.41
whether or not
there would be an interest
00:46:59.44\00:47:01.08
in something like that
00:47:01.11\00:47:02.55
because the need is
just beginning to explode.
00:47:02.58\00:47:05.30
And so that's kind of
00:47:05.33\00:47:08.31
what we are exploring right now.
00:47:08.34\00:47:09.99
And because I
know there is programs
00:47:10.02\00:47:12.03
but so we are just
kind of looking into that.
00:47:12.06\00:47:14.64
Here's what I noticed
what is exciting about
00:47:14.67\00:47:18.00
and they separate you
from other lifestyle centers.
00:47:18.03\00:47:22.42
Your educational
component is very strong
00:47:22.45\00:47:25.37
rather than just
come and get well
00:47:25.40\00:47:27.34
and God bless you bye.
00:47:27.37\00:47:29.43
You're putting
some things in place
00:47:29.46\00:47:32.38
that would begin to train people
00:47:32.41\00:47:35.48
but also move out
in some other areas
00:47:35.51\00:47:37.20
as that you see are necessary
00:47:37.23\00:47:39.17
when you look at lifestyle today
00:47:39.20\00:47:41.04
and it seems a separate
Black Hills a little bit from--
00:47:41.07\00:47:43.23
well, maybe some other
places that just kind of heals
00:47:43.26\00:47:45.56
and send you on your way.
00:47:45.59\00:47:46.98
But this teaching
component is very, very strong.
00:47:47.01\00:47:49.50
Is it no so? Yes. Yes.
00:47:49.53\00:47:50.94
Its exactly right.
00:47:50.97\00:47:52.42
Praise God. Praise God.
00:47:52.45\00:47:53.86
Very, very, very,
very exciting. I'm sorry.
00:47:53.89\00:47:56.06
We need to reach the community.
00:47:56.09\00:47:57.36
Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:57.39\00:47:58.42
And let me just ask this
before our time gets away.
00:47:58.45\00:48:00.91
You kind of come
off the mountain a lot,
00:48:00.94\00:48:03.20
do you not and go
into that local community.
00:48:03.23\00:48:05.92
We have in the past
yes, that's where in process
00:48:05.95\00:48:09.06
of actually will be
going in the churches
00:48:09.09\00:48:11.57
both denominational
Adventist churches
00:48:11.60\00:48:14.55
as well as
non-Adventist churches.
00:48:14.58\00:48:16.79
And just anybody that invites us
00:48:16.82\00:48:18.80
to come and give
them information about it.
00:48:18.83\00:48:22.80
Okay. Okay.
00:48:22.83\00:48:24.18
So do you as--
00:48:24.21\00:48:25.59
we gave contact information.
00:48:25.62\00:48:27.32
If a church wants to get
information on Black Hills
00:48:27.35\00:48:30.69
could they get a
representative to come out
00:48:30.72\00:48:32.32
and sort of walk them through
what you do and what you offer.
00:48:32.35\00:48:33.94
They could absolutely.
00:48:33.97\00:48:35.00
The could give us a ring
00:48:35.03\00:48:36.45
and we can see
what we can do for them.
00:48:36.48\00:48:38.96
Okay, excellent.
00:48:38.99\00:48:40.03
Are there employment
opportunities open there?
00:48:40.06\00:48:43.29
We have-- right now we have--
00:48:43.32\00:48:46.43
It's listed on the website.
Yes, listed on the website.
00:48:46.46\00:48:48.87
That would probably be the
best to just go to the website
00:48:48.90\00:48:52.42
in the contacts tab
there is employment,
00:48:52.45\00:48:55.40
go there and it's
listed right there.
00:48:55.43\00:48:56.84
Okay.
00:48:56.87\00:48:57.91
And if I wanted to get training,
00:48:57.94\00:48:59.22
I wanted to go
into massage therapy
00:48:59.25\00:49:01.00
I can do that same thing and--
00:49:01.03\00:49:02.72
Absolutely.
00:49:02.75\00:49:03.96
Excellent. Excellent. Excellent.
00:49:03.99\00:49:05.55
We are gonna go to
our music just now before
00:49:05.58\00:49:07.32
we go to our news break.
00:49:07.35\00:49:09.81
We are going to bring back
Pierre Van Westhuizen again
00:49:09.84\00:49:11.80
and this time he is
going to be singing,
00:49:11.83\00:49:13.42
"We Believe."
00:49:13.45\00:49:14.63
We believe in the Father
00:49:50.24\00:49:56.38
Who created all that is
00:49:56.41\00:50:03.76
And we believe
00:50:03.79\00:50:06.13
The universe and
all there in is His
00:50:06.16\00:50:14.13
As a loving heavenly Father
00:50:16.28\00:50:22.38
He yearned to save us all
00:50:22.41\00:50:29.00
To lift us from the fall
00:50:29.03\00:50:36.64
We believe
00:50:36.67\00:50:42.24
We believe in Jesus
00:50:42.27\00:50:48.45
The Father's only Son
00:50:48.48\00:50:55.66
Existing uncreated
00:50:55.69\00:51:01.34
Before time had begun
00:51:01.37\00:51:07.98
A sacrifice for sin
00:51:08.01\00:51:14.25
He died then rose again
00:51:14.28\00:51:21.33
To ransom sinful men
00:51:21.36\00:51:26.40
We believe
00:51:28.46\00:51:32.77
We believe in the spirit
00:51:34.24\00:51:40.28
Who makes believers one
00:51:40.31\00:51:45.87
Our hearts are
filled with His presence
00:51:47.56\00:51:53.48
The Comforter has come
00:51:53.51\00:51:59.76
His kingdom unfolds in His plan
00:51:59.79\00:52:06.19
Unhindered by quarrels of man
00:52:06.22\00:52:12.74
His church upheld by His hand
00:52:12.77\00:52:20.12
We believe
00:52:20.15\00:52:25.49
Though the earth be removed
00:52:25.52\00:52:28.92
And time be no more
00:52:28.95\00:52:32.17
These truths are
secure God's word shall endure
00:52:32.20\00:52:38.82
Whatever may change,
these things are sure
00:52:38.85\00:52:45.46
We believe
00:52:45.49\00:52:50.97
So if the mountains are
cast down into the plains
00:52:51.00\00:52:58.27
If kingdoms all
crumble, this one remains
00:52:58.30\00:53:04.55
Our faith is not
subject to seasons of man
00:53:04.58\00:53:10.98
With our fathers we proclaim
00:53:11.01\00:53:17.62
We believe our Lord
will come as He said
00:53:17.65\00:53:24.12
The land and the sea
will give up their dead
00:53:24.15\00:53:30.35
His children will
reign with Him as their head
00:53:30.38\00:53:37.84
We believe
00:53:37.87\00:53:45.84
We believe
00:53:47.22\00:53:55.22