I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, friends.
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Welcome to another
3ABN today program.
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My name is John
Lomacang and thank you so much
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for taking the time to
tune in today to join us
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for what I
believe is going to be
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a faith building
encouraging program
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as our guest today
is going to walk you
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through the
experiences of her life
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letting you know that God
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has been there with
her in the beginning,
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He is with her today
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and He promises never to
leave and never to forsake.
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Many of us face
trials and challenges,
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some of them are
more than just natural.
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Some of them are spiritualistic
and you will find out
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from our guest today
how you handle those moments
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when those attacks
come into your life.
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She is an author and encourager
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and you will get a chance to
meet her in just a few moments.
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But if you are
part of our 3ABN family
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we thank you for your prayers
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and also for
your financial support
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which makes it
possible for this ministry
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to continue going and growing
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as we prepare for the
soon coming of our Savior.
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Today, just before you
meet our guest we have a song
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by young man that's
gonna be playing Johan Sentana
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and he is gonna be
playing a song on piano entitled
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"Abide With Me."
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Thank you so much for that song
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"Abide With Me."
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You know it sets the
stage to segue from the thoughts
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that the song brings to our mind
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to the meaning of this program
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how God chooses to
abide with His people
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every moment of every
day through the good times
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and through the bad times.
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And so allow us at this time
to introduce you to our guest.
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Helen Heavirland, good
to have you here today.
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Thank you.
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I'm so close I'll reach
out and shake your hand.
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And you are very
interesting person.
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We had a chance to
talk before the interview
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to find out a little
bit about your life how--
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and so those who are watching
and listening to the program
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I'm gonna give you
the opportunity now
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to tell them who you
are, where you are from,
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and a little bit more
on what you do right now.
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Well, I grew up in a
home that read stories.
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Okay.
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Christian stories,
inspirational stories,
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nature stories.
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And I really
believe that the beginnings
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of my training for
what God has called me to do
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started before I could
even understand the words
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of the stories as my dad
would read to our whole family,
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to my older brothers
and sisters who understood.
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But I was too young at first
but yet the cadence of story
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just began to be in my
mind and it was a Christian home
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for which I'm very thankful
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and through the years
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I grew up, went
to-- became a nurse,
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grew up on a farm
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and then married
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and my husband
had-- has a business
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and I became his
bookkeeper and secretary
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and but for the
small family business
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and life was going along fine.
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And then-- then
I've always enjoyed words
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and I have always would
kind of write a lot of things
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but I never published
anything at least not much.
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And then on my 40th birthday
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I remember thinking
about the number of candles
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and thinking, you
know, there is a verse
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that talks about
three score and ten.
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If we have 70 years I
am more than halfway there.
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And if I was
ever going to write,
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maybe I ought to get started.
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Okay.
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I started writing.
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So diving into the
cadence of life saying okay,
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if there is ever a good time
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to begin what I'm
enjoying this is a good time.
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Where is home for
you though? Where is it?
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I live in the Walla Walla Valley
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right out on the Oregon
and Washington State borders.
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Okay.
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Now was that you
were raised in that area?
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I was raised first in the
coastal mountains of Oregon
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and then in the
around Tri-Cities
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in Washington in
the eastern desert
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there and my family was
among the very first farmers
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that went into the Columbia
Basin Irrigation District
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which is the area
below the Grand Coulee Dam.
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We went in when it
was desert and broke sod.
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I feel like kind of
belong with people--
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Like a pioneer. Yes.
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Like a-- we were pioneers. Wow.
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You know, when I
think of the north west
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I look at so much
of the green trees
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and the beautifully
landscaped mountains
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and its hard to think
of desert being up west.
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But I know, I know
where the Grand Coulee Dam is.
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So there was some desert at the
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or is it a still
desert out there?
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There is still some desert
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but now there is
miles and miles of fields,
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vineyards, orchids, farmers
fields of all kinds of crops.
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Wheat, of just all kinds
of crops, potatoes et cetera.
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And such a
peaceful setting allows you
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to really commune with God
and growing up on that farm.
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How many siblings are there?
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Well, there are six of us
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but we are very
far spread apart so--
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so I kind of--
it's like some of us
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grew up almost as only children
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because our older
siblings were quite a bit older
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and now younger
siblings quite a bit younger.
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And I had no brothers my age
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so I was chief tractor driver.
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Oh, so you, you really know
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how to use farm
equipment if you have to.
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Yep. Wow.
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And you talked
about being a nurse,
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that was when you
decided to start writing
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that was already a
part of your profession?
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Yes. Yeah.
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I had already worked for nursing
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for a number of years
and then had gone on to being
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a homemaker and the bookkeeper
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and secretary.
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We talked about being
raised in a Christian family,
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when did your
Christian relationship
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become more
personal with the Lord?
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You know, lot of times
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we are raised in Christian home
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but we don't inherit Christ.
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Right. Talk
about your conversion.
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It was a slow thing for me
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and step by step I
came closer to Jesus
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and I think one of
the early times was,
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early in high
school when I just realized
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that God really cared about me
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as a young person
and began to recognize
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God's love for me
on a personal basis.
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He did and absolutely
amazing miracle for me
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when I was a sophomore
and in high school and then,
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and then in
college as I took the class
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Life and Teachings of Jesus.
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And one day in my own devotions
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read the statement
about how God or how Jesus
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would have died, you
know, come to this earth,
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gone through everything
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He went through,
gone to the cross
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if only one person had sinned.
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Wow.
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And God just touched my
heart that could have been me
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that Jesus did
that for me personally
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and that was a very much
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a deepening of the
relationship with Him.
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Wow.
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You know, that is true
when you think about well,
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it is so easy to say,
for God so loved the word
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but its something all
together different to say,
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for God so loved me.
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And that personal
connection has not only value
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but also helps us understand
His intense love for us.
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And then those phrases like
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I will never leave
You, never forsake You,
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I'll be with You till the
end always you think well,
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who else will He be
with, it's just Him and me.
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And that's really,
that's really wonderful.
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And everyone else too
but He is with each of us
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as if we were the only one.
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That's right.
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That's wonderful.
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Now, the desire to write,
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talk about that
because a lot of us,
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you know, we wheedle,
we've heard of young people,
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most young girls
being raised with a diary.
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I don't know if you had a diary
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but where did the
desire to even start writing
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or start penning
your thoughts begin?
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Well, probably on
the tractor. Okay.
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I mean, you have a lot of
hours out there driving tractor,
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moving the hay or bailing
it or whatever you are doing
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and my mind was
always going doing something
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and I would write
poetry and in my mind
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and you know and
write stories in my mind.
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And again that came from
hearing stories all the time.
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Mission stories and you know,
but anyway I would in my mind
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I wrote even though
I was on the tractor
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and I never had pen in hand.
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But then when I went to
school, academy and college
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if I had a writing assignment
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that was a
major part of my grade
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I do pretty good in that class
because the writing classes
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I just almost always
did really well in those.
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As long I had a term paper
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that was a
major part of my grade
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got a good grade in that class.
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And so I think God
blessed with an ability to write
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and you know, I
recognized it but I--
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until then I had
never kept a diary.
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It wasn't until years
later that I started journaling
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and writing my
thoughts down that way.
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You know, I knew a young
man from the country of Norway
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and he was just an
amazing young man from Jan.
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From his young days
he would write an entry
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into a journal every
single day and he never stopped.
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He is still doing that today.
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He has I would say
volumes of his life.
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I was asking, I said to
him, what's the purpose?
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That he said, I'm
chronicling my life so one day
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it will be a benefit to someone.
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But every morning he wakes
up he writes something down
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what he did today
and I traveled with him
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for two years
and saw him do that.
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What are you writing?
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I'm writing
what I did yesterday.
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What are you writing?
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I'm writing what I did yesterday
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and what my day was
like in my devotions.
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And so that's that kind
of personal chronological
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walk through our lives.
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And at this point a
lot of my journaling
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is its almost
like a prayer journal,
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a devotional journal
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and it has been a real
encouragement to me myself
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as I look back
sometimes at how, you know,
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how God taught me in
my devotions that morning.
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And I will think
about what was that
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that was so
inspiring to me and I look back
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and it has been a real
blessing to me to journal.
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And as you are thinking God's
thoughts and you speak them
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or you write
them they are just--
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they go more deeply
into your brain and somehow
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I need Him, you know,
with me and I need that
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His presence in me
into me that's a help.
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And the journal and actually
becomes a part of our journey.
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Absolutely.
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If you go back and you look
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and like a prayer journal.
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My wife and I have-- we
go back and we look in it
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and we look at the
dates because whenever
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we write a prayer
we remember the dates
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and we go back couple
of years and remember wow,
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remember that and
just all of the sudden
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the thought comes back
to our mind and reminds us
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with that personal
connection with God.
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Now in the
journaling part of your life
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and in the writing part
and thinking your thoughts
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and eventually
penning those thoughts
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one day your life was
catapulted into this call
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on your life to go ahead
and being to be an offer.
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There was a young man
that you heard his testimony.
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Matter of fact
when I say young man
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I do that respectfully.
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My wife's manager she works
over 3ABN radio Jay Christian,
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you heard him tell us testimony
one day about his entrance
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into the occult world
and you were in that crowd.
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Tell us what it was
like that particular day
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when you were
listening to that testimony?
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I was moved by his
testimony and moved
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about how God had reached
out to him and drawn him.
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About the things
that caught him up
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and into a direction
that was not towards God
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but how God never gave upon him,
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kept reaching and
drawing him to Himself.
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And I just was
somehow it just fascinated me
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and-- you know,
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I was thinking more of it
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except on the way out
of the building that day.
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I had an impression
00:19:17.05\00:19:18.52
you ought to offer
to write Jay story.
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And I just put
that out of my mind
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and it came back again
as we were going through
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the four year I just laughed.
00:19:28.40\00:19:30.70
And my husband said,
what are you laughing about?
00:19:30.73\00:19:35.65
And I said, oh, nothing.
00:19:35.68\00:19:37.27
Anyway the
impression just kept coming back
00:19:37.30\00:19:39.38
and I pushed it
off and pushed it off.
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I couldn't-- at first I didn't--
00:19:41.53\00:19:44.57
I just thought it was
funny idea but I came to realize
00:19:44.60\00:19:47.26
that it probably was God calling
00:19:47.29\00:19:49.71
but I did not feel
adequate to write a book.
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I had written by this
time a number of short things
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and had a number of things
published but never a book.
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And I didn't feel
adequate to write a book.
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And I kind of-- I
related very well to Gideon
00:20:01.61\00:20:07.46
who-- oh, when he
was called, you know,
00:20:07.49\00:20:10.32
I'm from the smallest clan
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and my family is the smallest
00:20:12.49\00:20:14.38
and I'm the
weakest in my family.
00:20:14.41\00:20:15.94
I can't do this,
you know, or Jeremiah.
00:20:15.97\00:20:18.77
Oh, you know, I'm just
a kid, I can't do that.
00:20:18.80\00:20:21.17
Right. Or Moses, not me.
00:20:21.20\00:20:25.31
Not me, yeah. Yeah.
00:20:25.34\00:20:27.78
You know, let me just--
00:20:27.81\00:20:29.83
I thought about
that in the context
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of what you just
said, the Lord often calls
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those who
understand their deficiencies
00:20:33.47\00:20:35.74
to reveal His strength.
00:20:35.77\00:20:36.83
Yes.
00:20:36.86\00:20:38.01
That's just a very
fascinating thought
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because people
are not necessarily
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most everyone that God
called wasn't pre-qualified.
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But He qualified them
00:20:46.54\00:20:48.22
because they had
these interpretations
00:20:48.25\00:20:49.88
in their own lives,
these apprehensions,
00:20:49.91\00:20:51.30
these hesitations, these moments
00:20:51.33\00:20:53.52
of their inadequacies recognize
00:20:53.55\00:20:55.70
and you are calling me to go
00:20:55.73\00:20:57.49
and when I go to talk to Pharaoh
00:20:57.52\00:20:59.52
whom I'm gonna send
me, see this feeling of,
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I'm just not up to the task
00:21:04.15\00:21:06.24
and that was the kind of
experience he was having--
00:21:06.27\00:21:08.17
you were having when God
00:21:08.20\00:21:09.51
lay that
impression on your heart.
00:21:09.54\00:21:11.00
Absolutely.
00:21:11.03\00:21:14.57
But I-- to me
when it became clear
00:21:14.60\00:21:19.35
that it was God speaking
00:21:19.38\00:21:21.38
it looked like
this mountain to climb.
00:21:21.41\00:21:24.34
I had no idea that God was
opening a door of opportunity.
00:21:24.37\00:21:30.37
There is the
mountain, begin to climb it
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and you didn't have
any climbing gear at all
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but the Lord kept putting
00:21:34.01\00:21:35.04
that mountain in
front of your path.
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In different ways.
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When did you decided to stop
running and accept the project?
00:21:37.81\00:21:42.59
Well, actually Jay at
one point then called me
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and we had never met before.
00:21:45.36\00:21:47.26
That was a long series of event
00:21:47.29\00:21:51.76
that helped him know
00:21:51.79\00:21:56.54
that I was
writer and he called me.
00:21:56.57\00:21:59.42
And first I just
gave him some ideas
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about how to write
it and then he tried
00:22:01.79\00:22:04.18
and called me
back one day and said,
00:22:04.21\00:22:08.01
"You gave me good ideas
but I'm just not a writer.
00:22:08.04\00:22:10.85
Would you write it?"
00:22:10.88\00:22:12.91
At which God and I
spent some major time
00:22:12.94\00:22:18.15
discussing this
project and He made it so clear
00:22:18.18\00:22:21.95
that He had called me
00:22:21.98\00:22:23.66
that I could not call myself
00:22:23.69\00:22:27.18
a Christ follower and not do it.
00:22:27.21\00:22:30.18
Now you are about
to enter into a journey
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of doing something
that you had not done before
00:22:32.83\00:22:35.46
but this was actually
bigger than you thought
00:22:35.49\00:22:37.39
what it would have
been because you not only
00:22:37.42\00:22:38.88
are entering into a
task of writing a book
00:22:38.91\00:22:42.18
and conveying
someone's else's thoughts
00:22:42.21\00:22:43.78
and putting it, packaging it
00:22:43.81\00:22:45.02
for a reading market.
00:22:45.05\00:22:47.40
But you are entering into some
00:22:47.43\00:22:48.86
of the same experiences
that you talked about
00:22:48.89\00:22:50.89
in his entrance into the occult.
00:22:50.92\00:22:53.82
And now you not
only conveying words
00:22:53.85\00:22:56.09
but now you have
this encounter that seems
00:22:56.12\00:22:58.67
to come along with the story.
00:22:58.70\00:23:00.29
Just to make the story
very, very real talk about that.
00:23:00.32\00:23:04.60
From the time I
started on writing his book
00:23:04.63\00:23:07.34
and first let me
say that it's his story
00:23:07.37\00:23:10.28
of coming out of the occult
00:23:10.31\00:23:12.87
and New Age and spiritualism
00:23:12.90\00:23:15.27
and becoming a Christian.
00:23:15.30\00:23:16.75
Right.
00:23:16.78\00:23:17.84
And the story as I sight
00:23:17.87\00:23:22.51
was telling clearly
about the character of Satan
00:23:22.54\00:23:27.74
and about the character of God.
00:23:27.77\00:23:32.14
Satan doesn't
like to be unmasked.
00:23:32.17\00:23:34.84
No.
00:23:34.87\00:23:36.12
And so it appeared after a while
00:23:36.15\00:23:39.56
it became pretty evident to me
00:23:39.59\00:23:42.49
that he was fighting
having this book come out.
00:23:42.52\00:23:46.20
And so-- I began
having health challenges,
00:23:46.23\00:23:51.54
just there were all
kinds of interruptions,
00:23:51.57\00:23:54.73
it was just a
major-- became a major fight.
00:23:54.76\00:23:58.73
Eventually my
husband fell and...
00:23:58.76\00:24:04.18
and I got the
telephone call at the time
00:24:06.19\00:24:10.50
when I couldn't talk
because of the health challenges
00:24:10.53\00:24:13.35
I was having,
because of one of them
00:24:13.38\00:24:15.82
and there were several.
00:24:15.85\00:24:18.09
And the telephone rang,
00:24:18.12\00:24:20.45
I let the
answering machine take it
00:24:20.48\00:24:22.15
and my husband's
pained voice take it
00:24:22.18\00:24:24.02
and I wasn't even
sure it was him at first.
00:24:24.05\00:24:26.94
But said, "Please answer,
I need the doctor's number."
00:24:26.97\00:24:31.84
Wow.
00:24:31.87\00:24:32.90
And I grabbed
the phone and said,
00:24:32.93\00:24:36.24
what's going on?
00:24:36.27\00:24:37.51
And he said, I fell. I
think I broke both legs.
00:24:37.54\00:24:42.73
And the pain in his
voice was just so evident
00:24:42.76\00:24:45.44
I knew something
was really, really bad
00:24:45.47\00:24:47.86
and anyway he had indeed
fractured a bone in one foot
00:24:47.89\00:24:53.13
and crushed the
other ankle very severely.
00:24:53.16\00:24:56.75
It was-- there was
a lot of waiting time
00:24:59.67\00:25:02.80
throughout this whole process.
00:25:02.83\00:25:04.96
They were waiting
for the doctor's test.
00:25:04.99\00:25:07.44
It was waiting
for surgery for him.
00:25:07.47\00:25:09.52
Waiting for
doctor's tests for me
00:25:09.55\00:25:12.28
with the tumor in,
on my pituitary gland.
00:25:12.31\00:25:16.16
Having to be very silent
00:25:18.14\00:25:19.70
because of
nodules on my vocal chords
00:25:19.73\00:25:23.40
and told to
have total vocal rest
00:25:23.43\00:25:26.62
and it's really
hard to not talk at all
00:25:26.65\00:25:29.79
ever for anything.
00:25:29.82\00:25:32.04
But anyway,
anyway there were a lot
00:25:32.07\00:25:36.44
of waiting times
and some of the things
00:25:36.47\00:25:41.09
we did as he lay
in the hospital bed
00:25:41.12\00:25:43.80
waiting for surgery
and then after surgery
00:25:43.83\00:25:46.91
we talked about the way
God had led in the past.
00:25:46.94\00:25:50.40
And talked about the
miracles God had done.
00:25:50.43\00:25:52.80
We talked about like,
you know, knowing that,
00:25:52.83\00:25:56.03
that he just lost his
ability to make an income for us
00:25:56.06\00:26:00.07
and I worked
for his business up.
00:26:00.10\00:26:02.27
So our total family
income had disappeared.
00:26:02.30\00:26:05.71
Wow.
00:26:05.74\00:26:06.81
And we talked about
00:26:06.84\00:26:09.02
how God had prepared manna
00:26:09.05\00:26:12.97
for the
Israelites and we didn't know
00:26:13.00\00:26:16.79
how we were gonna eat,
may we get to figure out
00:26:16.82\00:26:19.02
what manna really was.
00:26:19.05\00:26:20.18
Maybe God have
to make manna again.
00:26:20.21\00:26:23.04
That's quite a thought.
00:26:23.07\00:26:24.51
We talked about
the time when he had--
00:26:24.54\00:26:31.50
he is industrial
painting contractor
00:26:31.53\00:26:33.53
and at one point we were working
00:26:33.56\00:26:35.26
in the oil
fields in North Dakota
00:26:35.29\00:26:38.44
and then the boom
busted as oil fields tend to do
00:26:38.47\00:26:42.50
and one year there were
nine painting contractors
00:26:42.53\00:26:44.89
and all of them just busy.
00:26:44.92\00:26:47.37
And the next year
there had been the burst
00:26:47.40\00:26:51.59
and there were three
contractors barely eking out,
00:26:51.62\00:26:54.42
the rest had gone bankrupt.
00:26:54.45\00:26:56.71
Our income that
year was two percent
00:26:59.07\00:27:02.31
of what it had
been the year before.
00:27:02.34\00:27:05.79
The total business income
00:27:05.82\00:27:07.39
was less than
two house payments.
00:27:07.42\00:27:10.14
Wow.
00:27:10.17\00:27:11.22
And yet somehow
00:27:11.25\00:27:16.12
we made it through that year.
00:27:16.15\00:27:18.96
When our accountant
who always double checked
00:27:18.99\00:27:21.77
the business
books and did the taxes,
00:27:21.80\00:27:23.75
when she looked as it
she shook her head and said,
00:27:23.78\00:27:26.32
this doesn't figure out.
00:27:26.35\00:27:28.31
You couldn't have made it.
00:27:28.34\00:27:31.72
And I said, but we did.
00:27:31.75\00:27:33.14
That's right.
00:27:33.17\00:27:34.21
And God just brought us through.
00:27:34.24\00:27:36.45
So during these waiting times
00:27:36.48\00:27:38.02
we talked about how God had led,
00:27:38.05\00:27:39.47
we talked about
the Bible stories,
00:27:39.50\00:27:40.96
about how God had provided.
00:27:40.99\00:27:43.12
And you know, one of the things
00:27:43.15\00:27:46.30
that is interesting to me
00:27:46.33\00:27:49.27
I think its Revelation 12:11
00:27:49.30\00:27:51.38
where it talks about the devil
00:27:51.41\00:27:52.99
and it says I'm
talking about the saints.
00:27:53.02\00:27:56.24
They overcame him by
the blood of the lamb.
00:27:56.27\00:27:59.34
Number one, that
it's the blood of the lamb
00:27:59.37\00:28:02.95
that overcomes the devil.
00:28:02.98\00:28:05.34
But there is a
secondary thing there.
00:28:05.37\00:28:07.66
They overcame him by
the blood of the lamb
00:28:07.69\00:28:09.99
and by the word
of their testimony.
00:28:10.02\00:28:11.61
That's right. That's right.
00:28:11.64\00:28:12.75
And as we
remember and speak or write
00:28:12.78\00:28:17.70
those things that God has done
00:28:17.73\00:28:20.68
it encourages
us, it strengthens us
00:28:20.71\00:28:23.15
as well as the
people who hear it.
00:28:23.18\00:28:24.99
And so as we waited
these are some of the things
00:28:25.02\00:28:27.94
that we did during those times.
00:28:27.97\00:28:30.59
You know, a lot of
time Christians serve God
00:28:30.62\00:28:33.10
when the sun is out,
when the finances are strong,
00:28:33.13\00:28:37.17
when everybody's
health is intact,
00:28:37.20\00:28:39.28
when the children
are behaving well.
00:28:39.31\00:28:42.05
We have a sunny day Christianity
00:28:42.08\00:28:45.34
but as you are saying
Christianity is not really--
00:28:45.37\00:28:49.18
let me use the
word here, not verified
00:28:49.21\00:28:53.24
unless we can be a Christian
when the sun doesn't shine,
00:28:53.27\00:28:57.39
and the finances
are not showing up
00:28:57.42\00:28:59.52
and the health that--
00:28:59.55\00:29:01.63
I think you mentioned
that your husband's income
00:29:01.66\00:29:05.01
therefore the whole
family's income dries up
00:29:05.04\00:29:07.34
going down to two percent.
00:29:07.37\00:29:09.26
How do you make it in the times
00:29:09.29\00:29:11.46
when it doesn't
even seem logical,
00:29:11.49\00:29:14.13
the figures don't add up
but the God we serve says,
00:29:14.16\00:29:17.99
"I will supply all of your need
00:29:18.02\00:29:20.53
according to My
riches in glory."
00:29:20.56\00:29:21.93
Amen.
00:29:21.96\00:29:23.02
And you are experiencing
that as you said earlier,
00:29:23.05\00:29:25.73
the manna is showing up in ways
00:29:25.76\00:29:28.13
that people cannot explain.
00:29:28.16\00:29:29.88
And that's where
Christianity become verified,
00:29:29.91\00:29:32.52
it becomes what's the word
00:29:32.55\00:29:34.76
I could use here, it
becomes tried and true
00:29:34.79\00:29:38.65
than you could say,
00:29:38.68\00:29:40.88
God has been with
us in the trenches,
00:29:40.91\00:29:43.59
not just on the sunny days.
00:29:43.62\00:29:45.35
I know God is real.
00:29:45.38\00:29:46.51
How I could not have made it?
00:29:46.54\00:29:48.62
We could not have made
it if God was not real.
00:29:48.65\00:29:51.94
And so that's the
kind of experience that you
00:29:51.97\00:29:53.88
and your family going through.
00:29:53.91\00:29:56.22
And it seemed like a long time.
00:29:56.25\00:29:58.37
It was only a couple of years
00:29:58.40\00:30:00.01
but it seemed like a
very, very long time.
00:30:00.04\00:30:02.75
But God walked through
it, just every moment with us
00:30:02.78\00:30:06.66
and even when we
couldn't see Him,
00:30:06.69\00:30:10.63
He was there and
through the promises of His word
00:30:10.66\00:30:12.96
and the one you just mentioned,
00:30:12.99\00:30:14.03
I remember one night
00:30:14.06\00:30:16.00
when my husband in the hospital,
00:30:16.03\00:30:17.67
going home in that night
00:30:17.70\00:30:19.37
I went to bed and I
was starting to worry
00:30:19.40\00:30:23.86
and I thought
no, I can't go there.
00:30:23.89\00:30:27.85
And I started going
through word by word.
00:30:27.88\00:30:30.85
"But my God shall supply all"
you know, now I can't say it.
00:30:33.26\00:30:38.31
All my need.
00:30:38.34\00:30:39.38
"All my need according
to His riches in glory."
00:30:39.41\00:30:41.95
But I started going
through it word by word
00:30:41.98\00:30:44.78
but there is a contrast.
00:30:44.81\00:30:47.18
You know, this is what
the situation looks like
00:30:47.21\00:30:50.28
but something is different.
00:30:50.31\00:30:53.04
But my God, Paul
wasn't just talking about
00:30:53.07\00:30:57.20
some God he had heard about.
00:30:57.23\00:30:59.03
This was his personal God.
00:30:59.06\00:31:01.06
He had a personal
relationship with this God.
00:31:01.09\00:31:04.14
This is my God.
00:31:04.17\00:31:05.60
But my God shall
supply, not may supply.
00:31:05.63\00:31:10.36
Not, oh, you know,
He will think about it.
00:31:10.39\00:31:13.86
He shall supply a word of surety
00:31:13.89\00:31:17.50
and not just a part of
your need but all your need.
00:31:17.53\00:31:20.75
And I went to bed, you know,
00:31:20.78\00:31:22.64
I lay there word by
word going through there
00:31:22.67\00:31:25.64
and went off to
sleep thinking about
00:31:25.67\00:31:28.05
how God was going to
supply for all of our need
00:31:28.08\00:31:31.83
no matter what the
circumstances look like.
00:31:31.86\00:31:34.35
And you know, He did
because two months of income
00:31:34.38\00:31:38.43
but 12 months of mortgage
00:31:38.46\00:31:39.95
and you made it
through Praise God for that.
00:31:39.98\00:31:41.84
Amen.
00:31:41.87\00:31:42.90
So He is not a God
that just makes promises
00:31:42.93\00:31:44.87
and say well, you know, I
thought I could help you out.
00:31:44.90\00:31:47.27
But He is the God
who honors His word.
00:31:47.30\00:31:49.91
He is the God who--
that fulfills His promises.
00:31:49.94\00:31:52.70
You know, Helen, you
brought out that word but,
00:31:52.73\00:31:54.59
you know, when you use that,
00:31:54.62\00:31:58.32
when you look for that
singular word in the Bible
00:31:58.35\00:32:00.28
there are so many places
that it's often put into,
00:32:00.31\00:32:03.78
it changes the prior
00:32:03.81\00:32:06.38
and shows you the beauty
of the-- it changes the former
00:32:06.41\00:32:09.68
and shows you
the beauty of the God
00:32:09.71\00:32:11.47
that you serve in the present.
00:32:11.50\00:32:12.93
You know, the one-- no
temptation has overtaken you
00:32:12.96\00:32:16.86
but such as this common
read but God is faithful.
00:32:16.89\00:32:20.42
Yes.
00:32:20.45\00:32:21.48
And when you think about that
00:32:21.51\00:32:22.69
you think of the
temptation, the trial,
00:32:22.72\00:32:24.42
the tribulation, the difficulty
00:32:24.45\00:32:25.84
but there is a God factor.
00:32:25.87\00:32:28.41
And so many
Christians forget the God factor
00:32:28.44\00:32:30.81
when
difficulties come their way.
00:32:30.84\00:32:32.77
and that's why I'm encouraged
00:32:32.80\00:32:34.01
because we are gonna talk
about your book in a moment
00:32:34.04\00:32:35.30
and why you
titled it the way you did
00:32:35.33\00:32:37.09
I don't want to say that yet
00:32:37.12\00:32:38.84
but I believe
that the God factor
00:32:38.87\00:32:40.69
is so much a part of your story.
00:32:40.72\00:32:42.42
Absolutely.
00:32:42.45\00:32:43.48
And there are, there are
several places in the Bible
00:32:43.51\00:32:47.22
where the words
"but God" come very,
00:32:47.25\00:32:50.37
very close, you know,
just they are right there.
00:32:50.40\00:32:53.06
And those "but God"
stories were really, really
00:32:53.09\00:32:57.30
need to me for that very reason.
00:32:57.33\00:32:59.26
You know, this is what
the circumstance but God.
00:32:59.29\00:33:02.59
And if God is in the
center the outcome is different.
00:33:02.62\00:33:07.88
There is a circumstance
and then there is God.
00:33:07.91\00:33:11.94
And if I go and
try to do it on my own
00:33:11.97\00:33:14.95
the outcome is
gonna be very different.
00:33:14.98\00:33:17.38
But if God is in the center
the outcome will be different.
00:33:17.41\00:33:21.36
You know, you
said if and I like that
00:33:21.39\00:33:23.39
and I like that a moment ago
00:33:23.42\00:33:25.03
there is another
text in Romans 8,
00:33:25.06\00:33:27.79
"If God be for us,
who can be against us?
00:33:27.82\00:33:31.26
You know if he
spared not his own Son,
00:33:31.29\00:33:32.95
but delivered him up for us all,
00:33:32.98\00:33:35.92
how well he not with him
00:33:35.95\00:33:37.82
also freely give us all things?"
00:33:37.85\00:33:40.97
Those are promises
that lot of Christians
00:33:41.00\00:33:42.52
don't remember
when difficulty come
00:33:42.55\00:33:44.82
and the reason I'm
spending little time on this
00:33:44.85\00:33:46.62
is because there are
those that are watching
00:33:46.65\00:33:47.69
and listening to the program
00:33:47.72\00:33:49.37
that maybe in the
middle of a trial right now
00:33:49.40\00:33:51.08
and saying well,
what do I do and Helen,
00:33:51.11\00:33:53.41
the author is
also the encourager
00:33:53.44\00:33:55.89
which leads to the reason
for the title of your book
00:33:55.92\00:33:57.82
and the title of your book is?
00:33:57.85\00:33:59.56
"My God is Bigger." I like that.
00:33:59.59\00:34:02.49
That's the but God, you see.
00:34:02.52\00:34:05.30
I know my trials are
big but my God is bigger.
00:34:05.33\00:34:08.27
I know that the income is
small but my God is bigger.
00:34:08.30\00:34:11.85
I know the burdens are
huge but my God is bigger.
00:34:11.88\00:34:14.89
So now talk about that book
because this is a book that,
00:34:14.92\00:34:18.66
that's kind of a
coming out of the trial book.
00:34:18.69\00:34:21.19
Absolutely.
00:34:21.22\00:34:22.35
But may I go one
that sells first?
00:34:22.38\00:34:23.64
sure.
00:34:23.67\00:34:24.74
And that is with
"My God is Bigger"
00:34:24.77\00:34:27.73
I think so much
about David and Goliath.
00:34:27.76\00:34:32.00
In-- as we see them there
00:34:32.03\00:34:37.11
to Goliath he was the giant.
00:34:37.14\00:34:41.70
To the Philistines
Goliath was the giant.
00:34:41.73\00:34:45.70
To the Israelite
soldiers Goliath was a giant.
00:34:45.73\00:34:49.71
To Saul, Goliath was a giant.
00:34:49.74\00:34:54.98
But who was the
giant in David's eyes?
00:34:55.01\00:34:57.49
God.
00:34:57.52\00:34:58.68
God was the giant. That's right.
00:34:58.71\00:35:00.99
And so any giant, any
trouble that just seems
00:35:01.02\00:35:04.16
to be overwhelming if
we look at it beside God,
00:35:04.19\00:35:09.58
God is the giant.
00:35:09.61\00:35:10.82
Wow, that's huge.
00:35:10.85\00:35:11.98
And so my God is bigger.
00:35:12.01\00:35:14.76
Actually I couldn't come up
with a title and friend of my
00:35:14.79\00:35:17.91
who had read the
manuscript, a writer friend
00:35:17.94\00:35:20.48
came up with the title
and I thought that's it.
00:35:20.51\00:35:22.90
That's right.
00:35:22.93\00:35:24.00
My God is bigger
because He is bigger
00:35:24.03\00:35:27.11
than any situation.
00:35:27.14\00:35:28.88
He is bigger than any challenge,
00:35:28.91\00:35:31.18
any trial that comes along.
00:35:31.21\00:35:33.21
Any health challenge,
any financial challenge,
00:35:33.24\00:35:37.46
any business challenge,
00:35:37.49\00:35:39.41
any challenge that
comes God is bigger.
00:35:39.44\00:35:43.72
You know, Helen,
you could actually walk
00:35:43.75\00:35:45.27
through the New
Testament the life of Christ
00:35:45.30\00:35:47.12
and the four gospels
00:35:47.15\00:35:48.67
and with that
title tell every story.
00:35:48.70\00:35:51.78
You know the man by
the Pool of Bethesda
00:35:51.81\00:35:53.53
but my God is bigger.
00:35:53.56\00:35:54.62
You kept but my God
is-- the widow of Nain
00:35:54.65\00:35:57.54
but my God is bigger.
00:35:57.57\00:35:59.02
The, you know, Lazarus
being dead for four days
00:35:59.05\00:36:01.57
but my God is bigger.
00:36:01.60\00:36:02.67
Mary and Martha will
say but my God is bigger.
00:36:02.70\00:36:05.22
And the theme just goes
00:36:05.25\00:36:06.41
on and on and on
and on it's just huge.
00:36:06.44\00:36:08.52
If I, you know, I just got
this little vision in my head,
00:36:08.55\00:36:12.16
if you just put a
tent up for one week
00:36:12.19\00:36:14.11
and the title of the, the
title of the whole week was
00:36:14.14\00:36:16.47
"My God is Bigger"
00:36:16.50\00:36:17.55
one story after
another after another
00:36:17.58\00:36:19.90
of Jesus in our
lives pulling us through
00:36:19.93\00:36:23.50
and show the world
that my God is bigger
00:36:23.53\00:36:25.54
because there are lot of
problems in the world today.
00:36:25.57\00:36:27.04
Absolutely.
00:36:27.07\00:36:28.10
In a political,
financial relationship problems,
00:36:28.13\00:36:30.73
marriage
problems, children problems,
00:36:30.76\00:36:32.59
health issues, economy, storms,
00:36:32.62\00:36:35.81
you know, the
list goes on and on
00:36:35.84\00:36:37.38
but now we come back
down to the real factor,
00:36:37.41\00:36:39.33
"My God is Bigger."
00:36:39.36\00:36:40.39
Tell us about
some of the-- okay.
00:36:40.42\00:36:42.89
God is continuing those stories.
00:36:42.92\00:36:46.38
The stories of the
New Testament, wonderful.
00:36:46.41\00:36:50.75
But they didn't stop
00:36:50.78\00:36:52.85
when the Bible was
finished being written.
00:36:52.88\00:36:55.92
And so these stories go
on and there are stories
00:36:55.95\00:36:59.45
every day in our lives today.
00:36:59.48\00:37:00.97
If we choose to
look at those stories
00:37:01.00\00:37:03.73
and choose to focus on our God
00:37:03.76\00:37:07.09
instead of on the challenge.
00:37:07.12\00:37:08.31
Yeah, we have to
see the challenges
00:37:08.34\00:37:10.08
and know what
to-- and deal with them
00:37:10.11\00:37:13.80
but focus on our God.
00:37:13.83\00:37:16.84
You know, the Bible testifies
as Jesus said John 5:39,
00:37:16.87\00:37:19.73
these are they that testify Me.
00:37:19.76\00:37:21.95
But now we are
the living testimony.
00:37:21.98\00:37:25.18
They overcame by
the blood of the lamb
00:37:25.21\00:37:27.15
and by the word
of their testimony.
00:37:27.18\00:37:29.14
So the New
Testimony stories continue
00:37:29.17\00:37:31.66
and isn't it wonderful to
think that throughout eternity
00:37:31.69\00:37:34.36
these are the stories
that are gonna be told
00:37:34.39\00:37:36.50
how big our God is to
share with un-fallen worlds.
00:37:36.53\00:37:41.14
Give us some of the
tastes because this book
00:37:41.17\00:37:43.36
we are gonna
talk about how those
00:37:43.39\00:37:44.83
who are listening
and watching this program
00:37:44.86\00:37:46.44
can get access to the book
but give us some of the titles
00:37:46.47\00:37:49.45
of some of the chapters
00:37:49.48\00:37:50.59
and maybe some
of the experiences
00:37:50.62\00:37:52.25
that are contained in that book.
00:37:52.28\00:37:55.20
Okay, chapters are there.
00:37:55.23\00:37:58.26
I remember one
of them is called,
00:37:58.29\00:38:00.03
"Sleeping in the boat."
00:38:00.06\00:38:01.55
Okay.
00:38:01.58\00:38:03.91
I this one called tests--
00:38:03.94\00:38:07.83
I don't remember the
chapter titles right off.
00:38:07.86\00:38:09.05
Okay.
00:38:09.08\00:38:10.63
But still it's chronicling
how God is much bigger.
00:38:10.66\00:38:13.35
It's chronicling our
experience through the trials
00:38:13.38\00:38:18.03
how God brought us through
00:38:18.06\00:38:20.62
and it's more than just a story.
00:38:20.65\00:38:22.24
Because in the back
there is also a study guide
00:38:22.27\00:38:25.08
to help people think through,
00:38:25.11\00:38:27.78
how do these apply to my life?
00:38:27.81\00:38:29.47
Wonderful.
00:38:29.50\00:38:30.53
Or our study
and discussion guide
00:38:30.56\00:38:32.74
it will work for
like a study group.
00:38:32.77\00:38:36.05
There is also tips
for memorizing scripture
00:38:36.08\00:38:41.17
because the Bible promises
00:38:41.20\00:38:42.74
and I have a little
packet of promises here.
00:38:42.77\00:38:45.55
I found it just so
valuable to put those promises
00:38:45.58\00:38:49.63
in my mind so that no matter
00:38:49.66\00:38:52.42
where I was I could
be focusing on them.
00:38:52.45\00:38:55.84
And one of the
things I like to do
00:38:55.87\00:38:58.59
to make the promises real to me
00:38:58.62\00:39:01.30
is I must be a little
bit of a visual person
00:39:01.33\00:39:04.76
because if I can get a visual
00:39:04.79\00:39:06.70
to go along with the text.
00:39:06.73\00:39:07.82
It helps it, it
helps me remember it.
00:39:07.85\00:39:11.55
But not only does
it help me remember it,
00:39:11.58\00:39:14.40
it makes it more real to me.
00:39:14.43\00:39:15.86
That's right.
00:39:15.89\00:39:17.11
And for instance one I
think of is Psalms 55:22,
00:39:17.14\00:39:23.93
"Cast thy burden upon the Lord,
00:39:23.96\00:39:26.11
and he shall sustain thee."
00:39:26.14\00:39:28.24
Okay, cast thy
burden upon the Lord,
00:39:28.27\00:39:31.25
what does that really mean?
00:39:31.28\00:39:33.13
You know, when I
was throwing the ball
00:39:33.16\00:39:36.21
for my dog Ucon one
day and all of a sudden
00:39:36.24\00:39:40.52
that came to
mind, I cast my burden.
00:39:40.55\00:39:44.90
I cast that ball for my dog
00:39:44.93\00:39:48.11
and she chase it
and bring it back to me.
00:39:48.14\00:39:51.97
When you throw
something you have to let it go.
00:39:52.00\00:39:56.86
And you know,
sometimes we are given
00:39:56.89\00:40:00.11
the image of bring
your burdens to Jesus
00:40:00.14\00:40:02.73
and lay them at the cross.
00:40:02.76\00:40:03.82
Well, I don't have
any problem with that.
00:40:03.85\00:40:05.97
The only problem I
have is that I'm very human
00:40:06.00\00:40:10.68
and I'm tempted
since I'm right there
00:40:10.71\00:40:12.59
and I'm tempted
to pick it back up
00:40:12.62\00:40:14.25
and carry it away with me.
00:40:14.28\00:40:16.06
I could see that, yeah.
00:40:16.09\00:40:17.66
But if I cast my
burdens to the Lord,
00:40:17.69\00:40:21.18
if I throw them I
have to let go off them
00:40:21.21\00:40:26.47
and they are off away.
00:40:26.50\00:40:27.54
I can't just pick
it up. That's right.
00:40:27.57\00:40:29.46
And that to me that
helps me cast at Him,
00:40:29.49\00:40:32.47
leave it with
Him, throw them to Him.
00:40:32.50\00:40:35.11
Matter a fact, in the Greek
a word there is another text
00:40:35.14\00:40:37.49
"Casting all your cares
upon Him for He cares for you."
00:40:37.52\00:40:40.29
The Greek is emphasizing
throw it as far as you can
00:40:40.32\00:40:43.35
to the point
where it's unreachable.
00:40:43.38\00:40:45.38
And its the Olympic,
is the Olympic language
00:40:45.41\00:40:48.05
that is being used here.
00:40:48.08\00:40:49.11
Cast it so far
that you can't reach it
00:40:49.14\00:40:51.68
therefore, you know you are
not gonna go back and get it
00:40:51.71\00:40:54.04
and that's so
real to me, you know.
00:40:54.07\00:40:55.88
And when you think about that
that's a beautiful illustration
00:40:55.91\00:40:57.98
because when we say lay
your burdens at the cross,
00:40:58.01\00:41:00.09
people tend to
lay their burdens,
00:41:00.12\00:41:02.38
kneel next to their burdens
and kind of scoot them back
00:41:02.41\00:41:04.52
in their
pockets when they leave.
00:41:04.55\00:41:06.17
Isn't that true? Yeah.
00:41:06.20\00:41:07.41
But when we cast
them we can't get them.
00:41:07.44\00:41:10.83
We see them leaving our hands,
00:41:10.86\00:41:12.34
we have expressively let them go
00:41:12.37\00:41:16.08
and we know that they are,
they are in flight to Jesus
00:41:16.11\00:41:20.84
and He is not gonna
send them back to us.
00:41:20.87\00:41:22.74
Amen. That's just wonderful.
00:41:22.77\00:41:24.62
And the Bible
promises talk about that
00:41:24.65\00:41:26.15
because you have a
little stack of cards here.
00:41:26.18\00:41:28.25
Lot of times you talk about
the memorization of scripture,
00:41:28.28\00:41:31.31
how that really helps you
and you carry that with you.
00:41:31.34\00:41:33.94
I do.
00:41:33.97\00:41:35.05
Like when I go for
a walk this is with me
00:41:35.08\00:41:37.66
and I'm
memorizing Bible passages.
00:41:37.69\00:41:39.80
I could be thinking about
all kinds of other things.
00:41:39.83\00:41:41.83
I could be
thinking about my problems
00:41:41.86\00:41:43.54
or whatever and, you
know, we all have them.
00:41:43.57\00:41:47.61
But I can choose
to focus on my God
00:41:47.64\00:41:51.93
and David and the dwarf.
00:41:51.96\00:41:57.26
That's Goliath is the
dwarf when he compared to God,
00:41:57.29\00:42:00.91
you know, and my
problems are dwarfs
00:42:00.94\00:42:05.40
when I am looking
at the giant of God.
00:42:05.43\00:42:09.16
That's right.
00:42:09.19\00:42:10.44
Anyway it just-- I,
as I memorize God's word
00:42:10.47\00:42:15.32
and then put it in my heart
00:42:15.35\00:42:17.01
it just make such
a difference to me.
00:42:17.04\00:42:19.96
And another one
during the waiting times
00:42:19.99\00:42:24.97
I wasn't quite sure
what to do with all these
00:42:25.00\00:42:27.98
Bible texts that
said, wait on the Lord.
00:42:28.01\00:42:30.64
I was tired of waiting.
00:42:30.67\00:42:32.59
I was tired of
waiting for lab results
00:42:32.62\00:42:35.13
and you know, all
these things take time.
00:42:35.16\00:42:37.18
And for my husband's
leg deal and so forth
00:42:37.21\00:42:39.87
and I didn't really
like those texts that said,
00:42:39.90\00:42:42.46
wait on the Lord.
00:42:42.49\00:42:44.24
And then I thought
well, what does it really mean
00:42:44.27\00:42:46.76
and I looked it up
in strong concordance
00:42:46.79\00:42:49.49
and one of the definitions
00:42:49.52\00:42:51.54
is to bind together
perhaps by twisting.
00:42:51.57\00:42:57.48
And I thought
what does that mean?
00:42:59.17\00:43:02.12
And then I got this picture
00:43:02.15\00:43:06.94
in my mind of a rope
00:43:06.97\00:43:11.84
and a rope is a number
of threads wound together.
00:43:11.87\00:43:15.81
Right.
00:43:15.84\00:43:17.84
And I began to see
myself as a tiny thread
00:43:17.87\00:43:24.68
and God as a steel cable.
00:43:24.71\00:43:28.89
And I-- I wasn't when
it says wait on the Lord
00:43:28.92\00:43:33.49
it doesn't mean sit
down and twiddle your thumbs.
00:43:33.52\00:43:36.11
Right, exactly.
00:43:36.14\00:43:37.66
It means for me to
wind my little thread,
00:43:37.69\00:43:42.72
my fragile, tiny
little thread that's me
00:43:42.75\00:43:47.02
in with the huge
steel cable that is God.
00:43:47.05\00:43:52.08
And then wait on the
Lord and He will strength you.
00:43:52.11\00:43:57.31
I become strong
because for somebody
00:43:57.34\00:44:01.36
to pull on me, you know,
for the devil to pull on me
00:44:01.39\00:44:04.40
he has to pull on
God because my mind,
00:44:04.43\00:44:07.82
my life is wound
with through His word,
00:44:07.85\00:44:13.62
and through the thoughts
I choose to think is wound
00:44:13.65\00:44:17.86
in with my God who
is ultimately strong.
00:44:17.89\00:44:21.74
Well, you know
what, Isaiah 26:3,
00:44:21.77\00:44:23.73
"You will keep
him in perfect peace,
00:44:23.76\00:44:25.19
whose mind is stayed on
Thee, because he trusts in You."
00:44:25.22\00:44:29.60
And if you are
stayed you are focused.
00:44:29.63\00:44:33.83
And I thought about that text
00:44:33.86\00:44:35.41
when you talked about
carrying your cards with you.
00:44:35.44\00:44:38.94
You know there are
people that are in their car
00:44:38.97\00:44:40.52
listening to
this program right now
00:44:40.55\00:44:42.20
and they maybe
looking at the roadway,
00:44:42.23\00:44:44.96
they may have the
music on in the background.
00:44:44.99\00:44:47.99
Actually if they
are listening to us
00:44:48.02\00:44:49.48
they are not listening to music
00:44:49.51\00:44:51.11
but they maybe
thinking about problems
00:44:51.14\00:44:53.18
that are waiting
for them at home,
00:44:53.21\00:44:55.14
they maybe thinking
about a tragic experience
00:44:55.17\00:44:58.24
that happened during their day
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or they maybe
thinking about sickness
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in the hospital or
somebody they just came to visit
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or they may just be in
their own personal trial
00:45:03.78\00:45:06.26
and I want to say to
them that this is a same God
00:45:06.29\00:45:09.08
that we are talking about today,
00:45:09.11\00:45:10.21
the God that wants us
to bind ourselves to Him.
00:45:10.24\00:45:14.00
The One that wants us to take
00:45:14.03\00:45:15.70
our little fragile
self, include ourselves
00:45:15.73\00:45:19.34
in the binding of the rope
00:45:19.37\00:45:20.51
and the steel
cable of this experience
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called divine assurance.
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And then I want
them to also know
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that God will not
allow them to break.
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He will not allow
them to be pulled apart
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because God is able.
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And 2 Peter 1:4,
"Whereby are given unto us
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exceeding great
and precious promises,
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that by these ye
might be partakers
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of the divine nature."
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Wow.
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You are not human
any longer, failed human.
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You know, we talked
about something here
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and the interesting time
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I want to go and dive into this.
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You put an acronym
together "God is Able."
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Yes. I want you
to communicate that.
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That is so beautiful.
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It is a good way to remember
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how God is able
but you broke it down.
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Okay.
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The "A" you know A-B-L-E,
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the "A" stands for assurances.
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God uses many
different ways to assure us.
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He may assure us
through a friend saying
00:46:17.59\00:46:21.23
I'm praying for you.
00:46:21.26\00:46:22.84
He may assure us through hymns,
00:46:22.87\00:46:26.31
through songs like "He is able,"
00:46:26.34\00:46:28.50
"My God is able
to carry me through."
00:46:28.53\00:46:31.84
"The Lord in Zion Reigneth"
I mean, you know, or...
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"A Mighty Fortress Is Our God."
00:46:36.57\00:46:37.71
That's the one I
was just thinking of.
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"A Mighty Fortress Is Our God"
00:46:39.12\00:46:40.79
how can you be discouraged
00:46:40.82\00:46:42.60
when you are singing
or thinking the words of
00:46:42.63\00:46:45.04
"A Mighty Fortress Is Our God."
00:46:45.07\00:46:47.21
Right.
00:46:47.24\00:46:49.64
There is just all kinds of
different little assurances
00:46:49.67\00:46:53.00
that God gives us.
00:46:53.03\00:46:55.04
Okay, so the "A"
stands for assurances.
00:46:55.07\00:46:58.54
The "B" stands for Bible.
00:46:58.57\00:47:00.86
The Bible promises which
we've just been talking about.
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Yes.
00:47:03.54\00:47:04.61
The Bible promises
that can strengthen us.
00:47:04.64\00:47:08.35
And Bible stories
which we've also talked about
00:47:08.38\00:47:11.61
as we keep those in
our mind and remember
00:47:11.64\00:47:15.16
that God didn't love the widow
00:47:15.19\00:47:20.69
who lost her son,
the Widow of Nain.
00:47:20.72\00:47:22.96
He didn't love her any more
00:47:22.99\00:47:24.74
than He loves you
today, you and me.
00:47:24.77\00:47:28.23
He loves us and
those Bible stories
00:47:28.26\00:47:31.13
He wants reach into our heart
00:47:31.16\00:47:33.06
and make a
difference in our lives.
00:47:33.09\00:47:37.59
So the "B" stands for
00:47:37.62\00:47:39.30
the Bible
promises, the Bible stories.
00:47:39.33\00:47:42.88
The "L" stands for
the lives of others.
00:47:42.91\00:47:49.09
When we are talking to someone
00:47:49.12\00:47:51.17
we can talk about the
weather and we can talk about
00:47:51.20\00:47:54.67
all kinds of different things.
00:47:54.70\00:47:57.16
But I'm finding a
good thing to do is to say,
00:47:57.19\00:48:00.67
what has God done for you?
00:48:00.70\00:48:02.45
That's right.
00:48:02.48\00:48:03.54
And get them
talking about and sharing
00:48:03.57\00:48:06.00
their testimony
and I am encouraged
00:48:06.03\00:48:09.40
when they share their testimony.
00:48:09.43\00:48:11.58
I can read books
about the lives of others.
00:48:11.61\00:48:13.82
"Corrie ten Boom"
00:48:13.85\00:48:14.90
is one that just comes
to my mind immediately.
00:48:14.93\00:48:18.01
The book, "A
Thousand Shall Fall"
00:48:18.04\00:48:20.66
which you know God led in
this man's life in amazing ways.
00:48:20.69\00:48:25.76
The book "One
Miracle After Another"
00:48:27.79\00:48:31.68
just there are so
many good Christian books,
00:48:31.71\00:48:35.67
uplifting books that tells
us about the lives of others
00:48:35.70\00:48:39.40
and how God has led
00:48:39.43\00:48:40.49
in their life
that encourages us.
00:48:40.52\00:48:44.16
And then the "E" is experience.
00:48:44.19\00:48:47.93
Our own experiences
remember and testify
00:48:47.96\00:48:53.20
to ourselves and to others
00:48:53.23\00:48:55.75
how God has led us in the past.
00:48:55.78\00:48:57.55
That's right.
00:48:57.58\00:48:58.64
And as we remember
those things and I think
00:48:58.67\00:49:01.17
so often about quote,
00:49:01.20\00:49:02.67
"We have nothing to
fear for the future,
00:49:02.70\00:49:05.68
except as we
forget how God has led us,
00:49:05.71\00:49:09.93
and His teaching
in our past history."
00:49:09.96\00:49:12.09
That's right.
00:49:12.12\00:49:13.20
If we remember how He
has led us in the past
00:49:13.23\00:49:17.29
and we trust that He
will do it for the future
00:49:17.32\00:49:21.09
what do we have to worry about?
00:49:21.12\00:49:22.47
That's right. That's right.
00:49:22.50\00:49:23.79
And I-- faith it has come to me,
00:49:23.82\00:49:28.29
I just I am amazed that
how significant faith is
00:49:28.32\00:49:31.93
because I think in Ephesians,
00:49:31.96\00:49:34.48
of The Armor of God and
he has talked about truth
00:49:34.51\00:49:39.12
and righteousness
and the preparation
00:49:39.15\00:49:41.74
and the gospel
of peace and then--
00:49:41.77\00:49:44.63
I mean, those are
pretty important things
00:49:44.66\00:49:45.92
we need to say but then he says
00:49:45.95\00:49:48.71
above all taking
the shield of faith.
00:49:48.74\00:49:54.03
Faith is a pretty
significant part of that armor.
00:49:54.06\00:49:58.54
When he is gonna say above all,
00:49:58.57\00:50:02.17
and I come to realize that faith
00:50:02.20\00:50:07.91
I have a new definition for it.
00:50:07.94\00:50:10.50
Faith is facing every situation
00:50:10.53\00:50:14.60
as if God is who
He really says He is.
00:50:14.63\00:50:19.78
And if God-- God has
said He is our refuge,
00:50:19.81\00:50:24.11
He is our
strength, He is our light,
00:50:24.14\00:50:27.52
He is our sufficiency.
00:50:27.55\00:50:30.83
He is our strong tower.
00:50:30.86\00:50:32.07
Yes. Wow.
00:50:32.10\00:50:33.99
Faith is looking at today
00:50:34.02\00:50:40.35
and seeing that God
is who He says He is.
00:50:40.38\00:50:43.22
That's right.
00:50:43.25\00:50:44.42
In my today and if, you know,
00:50:44.45\00:50:50.49
another thing I realized is
00:50:50.52\00:50:54.03
the things I worry
about are the things
00:50:54.06\00:50:57.74
that are bigger than my God.
00:50:57.77\00:50:59.70
Wow.
00:50:59.73\00:51:02.03
That really
caught me by surprise,
00:51:02.06\00:51:04.30
the moment that
came across my mind.
00:51:04.33\00:51:08.08
And is my God
really who I say He is?
00:51:08.11\00:51:14.20
Only if He is
that part of my life.
00:51:14.23\00:51:17.01
That's right.
00:51:17.04\00:51:18.40
The things we worry
about is bigger than our God
00:51:18.43\00:51:20.85
but when we focus on our God
00:51:20.88\00:51:23.18
He is bigger than the
things we worry about.
00:51:23.21\00:51:25.62
If He, if He isn't we
don't know the Creator God
00:51:25.65\00:51:30.51
and we need to
spend some more time
00:51:30.54\00:51:32.18
getting to know Him.
00:51:32.21\00:51:33.81
Now God did
miracles in our life.
00:51:33.84\00:51:35.91
He did a number of miracles.
00:51:35.94\00:51:38.19
There were some healings,
there were absolute times
00:51:38.22\00:51:41.58
when He said, go to the house
00:51:41.61\00:51:42.99
and the house was
filled with smoke.
00:51:43.02\00:51:45.05
There were and I
was able to remove
00:51:45.08\00:51:47.75
and we didn't lose our
house, remove that thing
00:51:47.78\00:51:50.24
that was causing the smoke.
00:51:50.27\00:51:52.70
I mean, God did amazing
miracles just to keep us alive.
00:51:52.73\00:51:57.75
But the biggest miracle
if you can quantify miracles
00:51:57.78\00:52:01.87
was giving us peace
in the midst of the storm
00:52:01.90\00:52:05.49
and that, that was something
00:52:05.52\00:52:09.35
that I hang on to and
I have to remind myself
00:52:09.38\00:52:11.88
every now and then
because we still have problems.
00:52:11.91\00:52:14.13
That's right.
00:52:14.16\00:52:15.21
You know, Helen, as
our time is winding up
00:52:15.24\00:52:16.61
I want our audience to know
that the book that Helen wrote
00:52:16.64\00:52:19.94
"My God is Bigger"
00:52:19.97\00:52:22.16
is available
through the 3ABN store.
00:52:22.19\00:52:24.56
If you go to
3abn.org and click on store
00:52:24.59\00:52:28.34
you will see the
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00:52:28.37\00:52:30.76
And Helen is also
available for invitations
00:52:30.79\00:52:33.49
but as you are
listening to the story
00:52:33.52\00:52:35.75
I also want to
give you the information
00:52:35.78\00:52:37.30
that you need to be
able to contact Helen
00:52:37.33\00:52:39.93
and invite her to come
and share in a broader sense
00:52:39.96\00:52:42.75
to a larger
audience how much her God
00:52:42.78\00:52:45.34
is much bigger
than our problems.
00:52:45.37\00:52:47.70
Here's the
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00:52:53.22\00:52:54.38
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00:52:54.41\00:52:56.21
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