I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and
welcome to 3ABN Today.
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I'm your host Yvonne Lewis
and I'm flying so low today.
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Usually I'm with Danny Shelton
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and I just kind of
sit on the side of him
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and he kind of
carries the bowling,
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but Molly said, no, we
want you to do this today
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and Danny is out of town
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and so I get to have
this wonderful interview
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and I'm so
excited about our topic.
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I am so thankful to be
able to share this testimony,
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this guest who has this
amazing testimony with you.
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I'd like to start with
a scripture and it's found
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in Deuteronomy 18:9 through 12.
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And it says, "When
thou art come into the land
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which the Lord
thy God giveth thee,
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thou shalt not learn to do
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after the
abominations of those nations.
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There shall not
be found among you
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any one that maketh
his son or his daughter
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to pass through the
fire, or that useth divination,
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or an observer of
times, or an enchanter,
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or a witch, or a charmer,
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or a consulter
with familiar spirits,
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or a wizard, or a necromancer.
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For all that do these things
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are an
abomination unto the Lord:
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and because of
these abominations
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the Lord thy God doth drive
them out from before thee."
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Powerful words
from a powerful book.
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I like to introduce
our guest Wendy Gareau.
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Wendy is from Canada.
Welcome to 3ABN Today.
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Thank you.
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So great to have you, Wendy.
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Your story is so powerful
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and it's powerful for
so many different reasons,
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but I want you to
share just what happened.
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Let's talk about your son.
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What happened to him?
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Well, my son, since he was born
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he's had life
threatening food allergies.
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So since the time he
was born, he was very--
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He had a skin
condition at six weeks old.
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He had eczema from
the top of his head
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to the tip of his toes.
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And we were told that
it's just the skin problem
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and it's just severe eczema.
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One point the dermatologist said
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when we finally
got to see him told us
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that if you
wanted to help your son,
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you had to move to
a different climate
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and go somewhere tropical.
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You have to pick up
everybody, the whole family
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and go to a tropical
place to help your son.
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He just said by
living in the environment
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that we live in Canada
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that we have very dry atmosphere
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and the winter time is dry
and the summers are dry heat
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and he said
that there is nothing
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that will help your son here.
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And so it was
around that exact time
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our son was 6 months old
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and he had his
first introduction to food
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we gave him baby cereal
mixed upwith some formula
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and he had an
anaphylactic reaction
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and we were at the hospital
in emergency within 10 minutes.
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We never called an ambulance
while we were reprimanded
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at the hospital that we
didn't so from that time on
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we had blood test done.
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We found out what all
his allergens actually were
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and I was nursing at
the time so we knew that,
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I knew inside
that he was actually
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allergic to the
foods I was eating.
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I don't know if he was actually
allergic to my breast milk
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but I knew he was
allergic to the foods.
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So it was a protein
allergy and he was allergic.
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He still is allergic to
dairy products, wheat, eggs,
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variety of grains and
then along with that comes
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in vitamins allergies
and then he developed asthma
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and everything
that goes with it.
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The only protein strand
when we went to the allergist
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that he wasn't
allergic to was meat.
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Okay.
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So, but he can't do any
gluten, he can't do any--
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No. No. No.
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He has multiple allergies.
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And he is allergic
to all legumes as well.
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All legumes, yeah.
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So the only sources of
protein that you can use for him
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are animal protein and nut
butters and things like that.
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Can you use nuts?
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No, he is
allergic to nuts as well.
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So he is allergic--
like a peanuts or legume
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but he is
allergic to nuts as well,
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like he's never had any nuts
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like pecans or
walnuts or anything like that.
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Right. Right.
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Well, if he has these allergies,
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you have to work
with what you have.
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Why, and they're
life threatening more
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the anaphylactic where
we're carrying EpiPen with us,
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Benadryl, Claritin like
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we have to take
his medication with us
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everywhere we go.
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So what happen was for
the first couple of years
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and we have four children,
so he is our third child,
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so our children at this time
like they're two years apart
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and have an older
son and an older daughter
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and then him and
then my younger daughter
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and so we just really learned
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how to cope with
his allergies and,
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you know, he just
can't have certain things.
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And then when he was
about three years old,
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it's at the time my husband
and I started a business,
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and our business
was doing extremely well
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in a very, very
short period of time.
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And we happen to
meet a lot of people.
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And one of the
things that we found
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is no matter where we went,
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somebody always had
some kind of advice for us.
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Have you done this?
Have you tried that?
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And we were like, no, of course
we tried everything we can,
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we've talked to every doctor
and he had pediatrician and,
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you know, we just,
we tried so many things
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and we just stick with.
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And how old was he at this time?
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Well, he is three
years old at this time
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when we got
introduced to this one family.
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And she told us, you need
to go and see this doctor.
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He's kind has a
private practice.
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I think it was more of
a holistic or naturopathy
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kind of practice and she
said, he helped so many people.
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For whatever
reason, my husband and I
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really edified
what they had to say,
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so we trusted them more
than a lot of other people.
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And part two because
where you have respect
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for them but also
because many times
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you do want to
try something natural.
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You do want to go
a different route.
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You don't want to over
medicate your children,
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so you feel like, oh,
maybe I should try this
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because it seems as
though it will be less harmful.
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Well, and it's so popular,
you just see it everywhere
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and like have you gone
to this naturopathic doctor?
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Have you tried this?
Have you done acupuncture?
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Have you gone to
chiropractic med?
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Have you done
all of these things?
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We were like, well,
we've tried some of those
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but I don't really feel
comfortable doing others,
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and for whatever
reason this particular advice
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that we got it
sounded very scientific to me.
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I have a degree, I
have a biology background
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and so science is something
that was important to me.
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And so that been said money
wasn't an option at this time
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because we were
blessed beyond our means
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and so at this
point we were like,
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yeah, we'll do
anything, you know,
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God has provided for us,
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we can go and do
all of these things
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and go and try and help our son,
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so that he can have
the same quality life
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as our other children
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because he is
trying to get to an age
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by now that he
really know the difference
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of what he can and
can't have and fairness
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all of these things,
so we made a special trip,
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it was a 6 hour
trip out of our way to go
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and see this doctor
and he did the scan,
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and it was a scan
basically he just scanned his
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from the head to toe.
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It was called the CRT 2000.
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And basically he was
taking his temperature
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at different points of
his body so it was just,
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it was like a thousand
different points of his body
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taking his
temperature and this machine
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was hooked up to
a computer program
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and was all based
on German medicine
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and the results went
into the computer system
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and then the doctor said, now,
I'm going to analyze it based
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on what the program tells me
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and I'll call
you with the results
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in a couple of days.
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It was measuring
heat at various levels.
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Yeah. Okay.
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And so it sounded
pretty scientific to me,
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and the whole thing
that really appealed to us
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was how they sold it to
us like the skin cost $800
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and the way they sold it
to us is that typical medicine
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that doctors
you've gone to see today,
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they don't have
training in all of these things.
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And so all you've been
doing for the last few years
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is coping with the
symptoms of allergies.
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We're like, well, exactly
we know what his symptoms are.
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We just cope with that
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so that he doesn't
have those symptoms,
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but he said, do you know
what is causing the symptoms?
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What is the actual chemical
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or physiological
processes happening
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inside your son's
body that's causing him
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to be so much different
than you other children.
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I was like, well, I don't know,
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that's what we don't
know what's the mystery
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behind these things
and he is like, well,
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that's what I'm going to
tell you what, from the skin.
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Right!
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So essentially
he's saying to you
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in allopathic
medicine you're dealing
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with managing the symptoms
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but I'm gonna give
you the root cause.
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Because if you know the cause,
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you can treat the problem
and now you have a solution.
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Which makes sense.
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Yeah, you are not
just treating a symptom,
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you're treating the cause,
and if you treat the cause,
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then you can cure your son.
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Absolutely.
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And it sounds all
very logical, right?
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And it sounded
scientific to me so we agreed.
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Yeah, no let's go
ahead and do this.
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One thing I have to admit
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is at this time
during our business um,
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our business
had gotten very busy
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and my husband and I
are baptized Christians.
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We gave our heart to Christ
before our family began um,
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years before it'll be 11
years in June since our baptism.
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We had baptism
together, baptized together.
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Amen.
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And so we've always
had a unified family.
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It's never been a
separation in our family
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in that regard but at this time
in our business both of us--
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we were not going
to church regularly.
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We definitely were not praying.
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We weren't worshiping
or-- our children were going
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and getting a Christian
education but we weren't.
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We definitely never prayed
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before we made any of
these decisions we thought of.
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That's for sure.
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And there was a
separation between us
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in God and our family.
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So anyway we went into this scan
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and a couple of days
later the doctor called us
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and over the phone gave
us the results and he said,
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"Your son is the sickest little
boy I have ever encountered.
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I have never seen
a child this young
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with this many infirmities."
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And so he started with his brain
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and he started from here
to here and then he said,
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"His brain is not
functioning properly
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because of his protein
deficiency, he needs to get
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put on this amino
acid drops immediately.
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If you don't do this then um,
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probably by the time
he's five or six years old,
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he's gonna start characteristics
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of mental retardation."
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And so we are like,
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"Oh, my gosh like
this is really serious
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and we knew that we thought
we were getting the best piece
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like he's not
getting enough proteins
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from the amount
of meat he is eating
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which we don't even eat meat
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very much in our
family at this point.
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I had tried to
convert to a vegetarian diet
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and at this point I was
eating a little bit of meat
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but not very much
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and so he's like he's
just not getting enough protein
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and his brain is
not developing enough.
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Children need protein
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for their brains to be developed
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so that they can
learn and he said,
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"Your child's
brain is not normal."
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And then he went to his
lungs and his lungs were-
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he has- he's asthmatic.
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He has asthma and he said,
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"His lungs were
not working properly."
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And he had all of
these chemical explanations
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of things that were going
on his lungs and in his heart
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but then he went to his stomach
and this is his intestines.
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And he said, "This
is the most alarming
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was his stomach's
intestines and his liver."
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He said, "Actually
his intestines inside
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were upside down or twisted."
00:13:01.31\00:13:03.40
He said, "This is how
they would normally look
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and your son's are like this
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and this is actually the process
00:13:07.22\00:13:09.29
of why when your son eats,
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he's not getting all
the nutrition from his food
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because
intestines are backwards."
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So um.
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This was something
you never heard before.
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I've never heard anything
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but it made so much sense to me
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with the way he
explained it on the phone
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he had all of
these scientific words
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and jargon and you know,
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you list - I mean
they are all words
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that I have heard before.
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He was talking
about this amino acids
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and he's like his
intestines are not,
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because I have a biology
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and I took anatomy as
well when I was in college.
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And he said, "His
intestines are not absorbing
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the nutrients properly
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and this is
what's creating histotomy
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and his allergic
reactions to these."
00:13:46.93\00:13:49.77
But he said, "If
he got his intestines
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turn the right way
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then everything will
start to work properly.
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It'll take some time,
you're gonna need to get
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some work done on him
but it'll take some time."
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And then-- and then he said
00:14:01.42\00:14:02.75
something that
I'll never forget.
00:14:02.78\00:14:04.09
He said, "Are you willing to do
00:14:04.13\00:14:05.66
whatever I tell you
to do to help your son?"
00:14:05.69\00:14:08.26
I was like,
"Well, of course I will,
00:14:08.29\00:14:09.76
that's why I came to you
00:14:09.79\00:14:11.81
'cause I wanted to help my son."
00:14:11.84\00:14:13.68
And he's like, "No."
00:14:13.71\00:14:14.74
He's like, "Are you
willing to do anything?"
00:14:14.77\00:14:16.63
'Cause he said, "I
can't guarantee you your son."
00:14:16.66\00:14:21.16
Like, he never used the D word.
00:14:21.19\00:14:22.84
He never said my
son was gonna die
00:14:22.87\00:14:24.32
but he had strong,
strong implications
00:14:24.35\00:14:26.61
that if we didn't follow
and do what he advised us to do
00:14:26.64\00:14:31.95
that he might not
live till 20 years old.
00:14:31.98\00:14:34.78
Wow, what pressure.
00:14:34.81\00:14:37.59
What pressure to
and what control, right?
00:14:37.62\00:14:41.72
It was and my husband and
I, we were just really confused
00:14:41.75\00:14:46.03
at this time 'cause we
just-- we looked at each other
00:14:46.06\00:14:48.78
and we talked about
it and we were like,
00:14:48.81\00:14:50.12
" Why, why is he telling us
00:14:50.15\00:14:51.51
that our son could
be mentally retarded
00:14:51.54\00:14:53.29
and have all these
problems with his brain
00:14:53.32\00:14:55.35
and now he's telling us that
00:14:55.38\00:14:57.27
if we don't do what he
tells us that he could die
00:14:57.30\00:15:01.34
or we were
inhibiting his chance of life,
00:15:01.37\00:15:04.98
and yet his
pediatrician is telling us
00:15:05.01\00:15:07.47
he's gonna
probably live longer than
00:15:07.50\00:15:08.99
any of you because
he has healthy diet.
00:15:09.02\00:15:12.91
He never had processed foods.
00:15:12.94\00:15:14.99
He's never had
any of these things.
00:15:15.02\00:15:17.05
He's probably
gonna outlive all of us
00:15:17.08\00:15:18.87
because of his
healthy organic diet.
00:15:18.90\00:15:22.63
So now you have a
real conflict here
00:15:22.66\00:15:25.78
between what the
pediatrician is saying
00:15:25.81\00:15:27.91
and what this other alternative
medical practitioner is saying.
00:15:27.94\00:15:32.06
Right. So what did you do?
00:15:32.09\00:15:34.10
Well, at this point we
told-- we decided we were like,
00:15:34.13\00:15:37.58
"Yeah, you know what?
We want to help our son."
00:15:37.61\00:15:39.80
The pediatrician isn't
giving us any solutions,
00:15:39.84\00:15:42.89
he's just really telling us
00:15:42.93\00:15:44.55
how we are coping
with it and you know,
00:15:44.58\00:15:46.52
we don't want to
take any chances.
00:15:46.55\00:15:48.22
At this point we thought we've
really have nothing to lose
00:15:48.25\00:15:51.36
by trying these methods or doing
00:15:51.39\00:15:53.80
what this doctor is
gonna tell us to do.
00:15:53.83\00:15:57.19
So we were like, "We
don't have anything to lose
00:15:57.22\00:15:58.98
you know, God has blessed us
00:15:59.01\00:16:00.09
maybe this is why
God has blessed us
00:16:00.12\00:16:01.93
so that we can
afford to help our son now
00:16:01.96\00:16:04.37
where we maybe wouldn't
have been able to do it before."
00:16:04.40\00:16:07.04
So he said, "Great,
I'm excited to hear that.
00:16:07.07\00:16:10.11
Now obviously you
live too far away from me
00:16:10.14\00:16:12.55
for me to come and
do the work to your son
00:16:12.58\00:16:14.86
for to have
regular appointments."
00:16:14.89\00:16:16.80
But he said, "You
live near Calgary."
00:16:16.83\00:16:18.88
And so we live in Red Deer,
00:16:18.91\00:16:20.67
which is about
an hour and a half
00:16:20.70\00:16:22.14
from the city of Calgary
00:16:22.17\00:16:23.25
which is a major
metropolis at Alberta."
00:16:23.28\00:16:25.59
And he said,
"I'm gonna connect you
00:16:25.62\00:16:28.96
with the best of
the best of the best.
00:16:28.99\00:16:31.12
There's a lady
that lives in Calgary.
00:16:31.15\00:16:33.53
She has a six-month
waiting list to get into see her
00:16:33.56\00:16:36.81
and I know that
if I give her a call,
00:16:36.84\00:16:40.12
I'll see if I can
pull up few strings
00:16:40.15\00:16:41.99
and I can get you in sooner just
00:16:42.02\00:16:43.51
by the condition of your son
but she is the best of the best
00:16:43.54\00:16:47.30
and she actually even mentored
me in everything that I do."
00:16:47.33\00:16:50.97
And so we're like,
"Great, like just call us
00:16:51.00\00:16:53.18
as soon as you
get an appointment."
00:16:53.21\00:16:54.47
And sure enough,
within a couple of days,
00:16:54.50\00:16:56.16
we've gotten a call that we had
00:16:56.19\00:16:57.99
an appointment in six
weeks to go and see her so.
00:16:58.02\00:17:01.38
So we went to see her
00:17:01.41\00:17:02.94
and we went in to
the appointment on time
00:17:02.97\00:17:06.37
and our first
red flag that we had
00:17:06.40\00:17:08.71
is when we pulled up
in front of her house.
00:17:08.74\00:17:11.13
The address we had
was a residential address
00:17:11.16\00:17:13.83
and so my husband just
looked at me and he's like,
00:17:13.86\00:17:16.76
"Oh, really, like she
has- she is so well edified
00:17:16.79\00:17:20.03
and yet she
works out of her house,
00:17:20.06\00:17:21.53
like she's not in a
professional building
00:17:21.56\00:17:23.28
or anything like this."
00:17:23.31\00:17:24.67
And then I said,
"You know what Dallas?"
00:17:24.70\00:17:26.01
I said I don't know, I said,
my husband's name is Dallas,
00:17:26.04\00:17:28.26
I said, "I'm just
trusting you know,
00:17:28.29\00:17:30.61
sometimes people
work out this at home."
00:17:30.64\00:17:32.11
Now at this point we'd
only heard the word work
00:17:32.14\00:17:35.25
like they wanted
to work on our son
00:17:35.28\00:17:38.31
and so my husband asked me,
00:17:38.34\00:17:40.41
I never questioned it
because I just had in my head
00:17:40.44\00:17:43.64
what I thought
this meant and he said,
00:17:43.67\00:17:46.34
"What kind of work
are they gonna do?"
00:17:46.37\00:17:47.68
And I said, "Well, I'm assuming
because of his intestines,
00:17:47.71\00:17:50.73
the way they are is gonna
be some kind of massage therapy
00:17:50.76\00:17:54.49
or like it's chiropractic
treatment or something like--
00:17:54.52\00:17:58.63
Some kind of
manipulation of area.
00:17:58.66\00:17:59.85
Yeah, something physical
where they're gonna massage him
00:17:59.88\00:18:03.54
or something like
that and that's the way
00:18:03.57\00:18:05.19
it kind of came of
and it was implied and so.
00:18:05.22\00:18:08.14
And when we
pulled up to the house,
00:18:08.17\00:18:09.56
that was my argument.
00:18:09.59\00:18:10.80
I said, "Maybe,
there's a lot of people
00:18:10.83\00:18:13.06
that work from their
homes, massage therapists,
00:18:13.09\00:18:14.84
chiropractics and chiropractors
00:18:14.87\00:18:17.59
and what not so we
were like you never know."
00:18:17.62\00:18:20.16
Right, right.
00:18:20.19\00:18:22.06
So we went into the house.
00:18:22.09\00:18:23.31
It was just my son and myself
and she was an older lady.
00:18:23.34\00:18:27.19
She was probably
close to about 60 years old
00:18:27.22\00:18:29.66
and I'm a very observant person
00:18:29.69\00:18:32.31
so I'm always looking
for signs and pictures
00:18:32.34\00:18:34.63
or anything like that and
when I went into her house,
00:18:34.66\00:18:36.75
I didn't notice
anything out of the ordinary
00:18:36.78\00:18:39.16
except that
everything was white.
00:18:39.19\00:18:41.10
Her carpets were
white, her walls were white,
00:18:41.13\00:18:43.56
her baseboards were white,
00:18:43.59\00:18:44.86
her doors were
white her cabinets
00:18:44.89\00:18:46.59
and her kitchen were white.
00:18:46.62\00:18:47.98
She had one picture
hanging up in that living room
00:18:48.01\00:18:51.65
that had a white picture frame
00:18:51.68\00:18:52.83
but there is a pink
flower in the middle of it.
00:18:52.86\00:18:57.40
Yeah, so everything was
just white in her house.
00:18:57.43\00:18:59.70
I was like, wow,
this is like, you know,
00:18:59.73\00:19:02.32
in today's day
and age there's always
00:19:02.35\00:19:03.61
a little bit of color
in the walls or something
00:19:03.64\00:19:05.72
but everything was
white, the linoleum was white.
00:19:05.75\00:19:08.09
And then she invited
us to go into the room
00:19:08.12\00:19:11.03
that she had set
up that had a little
00:19:11.06\00:19:12.46
kind of massage table
on there and she sat down
00:19:12.49\00:19:15.20
and it was
nothing fancy in there
00:19:15.23\00:19:17.98
and so I sat down on the chair
00:19:18.01\00:19:19.47
and my son sat
on the- on the bed,
00:19:19.50\00:19:22.98
the massage table and she said,
00:19:23.01\00:19:24.72
"So what are you - what
can I do for you today?"
00:19:24.75\00:19:27.11
And I thought that was
kind of odd and I said,
00:19:27.14\00:19:28.86
"Well, didn't Dr.
Brian - didn't he send you
00:19:28.89\00:19:31.44
the file with all of
the findings that he had?"
00:19:31.47\00:19:34.61
And she said, "No."
00:19:34.64\00:19:36.18
And she said, "Well,
tell me what you're here for.
00:19:36.21\00:19:39.04
And so I gave her
the whole medical history
00:19:39.07\00:19:41.73
and I started and about half way
00:19:41.76\00:19:43.32
through she stopped me.
00:19:43.35\00:19:44.38
She's like,
"Stop! Stop, stop, stop.
00:19:44.41\00:19:46.31
She said I'll find
out the rest by myself.
00:19:46.34\00:19:48.16
You don't need to
say anything else.
00:19:48.19\00:19:49.91
I was like, "Oh, okay."
00:19:49.94\00:19:52.69
That was another
red flag, wasn't it?
00:19:52.72\00:19:54.87
I mean, it just
sounded, she didn't know
00:19:54.90\00:19:59.22
what he was there for
and the doctor had said
00:19:59.25\00:20:01.73
he would pull some strings
00:20:01.76\00:20:03.35
so that she could see him early.
00:20:03.38\00:20:05.72
She didn't know
what he was there for
00:20:05.75\00:20:07.24
and she said, "Stop,
I'll find out myself.
00:20:07.28\00:20:11.59
Those are definite red flags.
00:20:11.62\00:20:13.66
Yeah, I know it was and...
00:20:13.69\00:20:16.44
But there is a sense
of curiosity that I had.
00:20:16.47\00:20:18.66
I wanted to see
what she was going to do
00:20:18.69\00:20:21.92
and again there
was no prayer at all.
00:20:21.95\00:20:24.56
We didn't pray at all
before we went in there,
00:20:24.59\00:20:26.67
we never prayed.
00:20:26.70\00:20:27.73
I never did any of those
things and so she said, "Okay."
00:20:27.76\00:20:32.13
She's like, you
sit in the chair.
00:20:32.16\00:20:34.37
There was a chair in
the corner of the room.
00:20:34.40\00:20:35.75
It was just a small little room
00:20:35.78\00:20:37.07
so I was right
beside the massage table,
00:20:37.10\00:20:39.36
she said, "You
sit in that chair."
00:20:39.40\00:20:41.49
And she said, "You don't speak
00:20:41.52\00:20:43.41
and you don't move
unless I speak to you
00:20:43.44\00:20:45.46
and I invite you to get up."
00:20:45.49\00:20:46.94
She's like, "But
if I- if you move
00:20:46.97\00:20:48.88
you're gonna have
to leave the room."
00:20:48.91\00:20:50.03
And I said, "Well, I'm
not leaving you in the room
00:20:50.06\00:20:51.95
by yourself with my son,"
00:20:51.98\00:20:53.65
And she's, "Well,
then just sit there
00:20:53.68\00:20:55.48
and don't speak
unless I speak to you."
00:20:55.51\00:20:57.38
And from that moment on
she had complete authority
00:20:57.41\00:21:00.06
in the room like
I sat in the chair
00:21:00.10\00:21:02.42
and there's nothing I can do.
00:21:02.45\00:21:04.01
I was completely
paralyzed. I could not speak.
00:21:04.04\00:21:06.50
I couldn't move
unless she command,
00:21:06.53\00:21:09.69
she asked me to move.
00:21:09.72\00:21:11.60
Now, did her attitude change?
00:21:11.63\00:21:15.10
Did she go from
being kind of friendly
00:21:15.13\00:21:17.89
to being very authoritative and-
00:21:17.92\00:21:21.03
She was kind of authoritative
right from the beginning.
00:21:21.06\00:21:23.30
Like she had-- she had
a confidence about her,
00:21:23.33\00:21:25.48
As we were
walking into the house,
00:21:25.51\00:21:27.12
there was another
patient that was walking out.
00:21:27.15\00:21:29.37
So she knew what she was
doing like as we walked in,
00:21:29.40\00:21:33.47
she had another
person walking out
00:21:33.50\00:21:35.30
so we knew that she was busy.
00:21:35.34\00:21:36.92
She had an appointment
after appointment, right?
00:21:36.95\00:21:38.98
So, that was
another area I guess reason
00:21:39.01\00:21:42.71
why I had a
little bit of confidence,
00:21:42.74\00:21:47.26
"Whoa, there's other people
here so she really is busy."
00:21:47.29\00:21:49.77
Right? Right.
00:21:49.80\00:21:50.83
And she must
know what she's doing
00:21:50.86\00:21:51.89
And this lady was
edifying her and saying,
00:21:51.92\00:21:54.52
"Oh, you're in right place,
she's gonna help you so much."
00:21:54.55\00:21:57.96
And all of this and she's like,
00:21:57.99\00:21:59.49
"You're definitely
coming to the right place."
00:21:59.52\00:22:01.04
And she was
going there regularly
00:22:01.07\00:22:02.54
so probably went
there once a week
00:22:02.57\00:22:04.44
or once every two
weeks to see this lady.
00:22:04.47\00:22:07.12
So anyway we went into room
00:22:07.15\00:22:08.83
and as she told me to sit
in the corner on the chair,
00:22:08.86\00:22:12.84
she looked at my son
and I can't remember it
00:22:12.87\00:22:15.10
specifically
exactly what she did
00:22:15.13\00:22:17.67
or I know there was
no actions that she did
00:22:17.70\00:22:20.43
but within 30 to 45
seconds, my three year old son
00:22:20.46\00:22:23.89
that was active having
hard time sitting on the edge
00:22:23.92\00:22:26.96
of the massage
table was fast asleep.
00:22:26.99\00:22:30.15
She just - he was
in a coma like sleep.
00:22:30.18\00:22:33.12
She just laid him down.
00:22:33.15\00:22:34.18
He fell asleep, kind
of in her arms or whatever
00:22:34.21\00:22:36.30
and she just laid
down right there on that.
00:22:36.33\00:22:39.37
And she didn't do
anything but just lay him down.
00:22:39.40\00:22:41.63
No, she - from what I remember,
00:22:41.66\00:22:43.66
she looked in his eyes
00:22:43.69\00:22:44.97
and she kind of
just had her hands
00:22:45.00\00:22:46.11
on his
shoulders and that was it.
00:22:46.14\00:22:47.99
She just put her
hands on his shoulders
00:22:48.02\00:22:49.23
and she was just talking to him
00:22:49.26\00:22:50.35
and then within seconds he just.
00:22:50.38\00:22:52.63
It was about 30 to 45 seconds
00:22:52.66\00:22:54.76
but she didn't like say
any fancy words or anything
00:22:54.79\00:22:57.92
and she laid him down
00:22:57.95\00:22:58.98
and he was fast asleep
like and I was just like,
00:22:59.01\00:23:02.17
"What in the world
like did you just do
00:23:02.20\00:23:05.69
to make him sleep like that?"
00:23:05.72\00:23:06.87
Right. Whoa, it's spooky.
00:23:06.90\00:23:10.92
But I was in that
chair and I was paralyzed
00:23:10.95\00:23:12.83
and I couldn't move
and I couldn't question
00:23:12.86\00:23:14.78
and I couldn't just be like.
00:23:14.81\00:23:15.89
"Hey what did you just do?"
00:23:15.92\00:23:17.19
Why? Because she told you
not to interfere on any level.
00:23:17.22\00:23:21.40
"Don't say a word."
00:23:21.43\00:23:23.40
So I just sat there
and there was a such a--
00:23:23.43\00:23:26.00
I was so curious.
00:23:26.03\00:23:27.80
I just wanted to see
what was going to happen next.
00:23:27.83\00:23:31.77
So, for an hour and a
half she worked on my son
00:23:31.80\00:23:36.64
and she did about I
would say 90% of her time
00:23:36.67\00:23:41.44
that she spent during that time
00:23:41.47\00:23:43.23
was from the tip of his
head to the bottom of his chest.
00:23:43.58\00:23:47.40
And when you said she
worked on him, what did she do?
00:23:47.43\00:23:50.13
She never touched him.
00:23:50.16\00:23:51.28
She never ever touched him
00:23:51.31\00:23:52.71
but she kept her
hands above an inch away
00:23:52.74\00:23:57.63
from his body so
she just kind of--
00:23:57.66\00:23:59.78
she was waving her
hands over top of him
00:23:59.81\00:24:01.65
and she was breathing over
top of him so she was like--
00:24:01.68\00:24:05.12
Her eyes were
closed the whole time
00:24:05.15\00:24:07.16
and she was just
breathing over top of him,
00:24:07.19\00:24:09.65
over top of his head, all part--
00:24:09.68\00:24:11.34
all angles of his
head and his chest
00:24:11.37\00:24:13.90
and like I said most of the time
00:24:13.93\00:24:15.75
and the time went by so
fast that I didn't even know
00:24:15.78\00:24:18.08
how long we were in
there until we had left.
00:24:18.11\00:24:20.89
Did she speak over him at
all? Did she say anything?
00:24:20.92\00:24:23.08
No, it was completely silent.
There was no speaking at all.
00:24:23.11\00:24:26.27
No speaking at all,
which is kind of weird too
00:24:26.30\00:24:29.16
but it's like there
was, and the time went
00:24:29.19\00:24:32.23
by like in a blink of an
eye and then she went down--
00:24:32.26\00:24:36.80
when she was done working
on his head and his chest,
00:24:36.83\00:24:39.82
then she went and
worked on his arms.
00:24:39.85\00:24:41.61
She did a little
bit on his stomach
00:24:41.64\00:24:43.12
and then she worked on his leg
00:24:43.15\00:24:44.39
and this is the
only time she spoke to me
00:24:44.42\00:24:46.07
or invited me to stand up,
00:24:46.10\00:24:47.75
is when he was
laying down at this point,
00:24:47.79\00:24:49.45
he was laying on his back
00:24:49.48\00:24:50.51
but she could
do anything to him.
00:24:50.54\00:24:52.73
She could take his shirt off.
00:24:52.76\00:24:53.89
She lifted him up,
turned him on his stomach
00:24:53.92\00:24:56.00
and he was still fast
asleep through this whole thing.
00:24:56.03\00:24:59.37
And so at this point
he was laying on his back
00:24:59.40\00:25:01.90
and his legs were
straight out and she said,
00:25:01.93\00:25:04.28
"Look at his leg.
00:25:04.31\00:25:05.68
Do you see his one leg here?"
00:25:05.71\00:25:06.87
And it was kind of turned
00:25:06.90\00:25:07.93
to the side like
this and she said,
00:25:07.96\00:25:10.20
"His leg is twisted.
He's got a twist in his leg.
00:25:10.23\00:25:12.68
Did you ever notice
that he runs different?"
00:25:12.71\00:25:14.66
And I said, "No, not really."
00:25:14.69\00:25:16.18
And I was like, "Well, maybe
it's just laying to the side."
00:25:16.21\00:25:18.38
And she said, "No,
it's definitely twisted."
00:25:18.41\00:25:20.50
And she's like watch
this and so she took his leg
00:25:20.53\00:25:24.02
and she began to
twist it and she twisted it
00:25:24.05\00:25:26.48
to the outside like this
and she twisted it in a way
00:25:26.51\00:25:29.30
that I've never
seen a leg be turned
00:25:29.33\00:25:31.83
or could be or
should be turned ever
00:25:31.86\00:25:34.96
and then she put it back.
00:25:34.99\00:25:36.02
She put in back in
position and she's like,
00:25:36.05\00:25:38.20
"See, look it's
nice and straight now.
00:25:38.23\00:25:41.15
Oh, oh, oh.
00:25:41.18\00:25:43.73
What were you
thinking when she did that?
00:25:43.76\00:25:46.45
What was going through
your head when she did that?
00:25:46.48\00:25:48.99
When she did that and I
saw that I was just like,
00:25:49.02\00:25:52.05
"What in the
world is going on here?"
00:25:52.08\00:25:54.23
At this point I'm like
pretty confused because she--
00:25:54.26\00:25:58.22
We've been here
for a little while now,
00:25:58.25\00:26:00.16
she didn't massage,
00:26:00.19\00:26:01.24
she didn't even spend
much time on his stomach
00:26:01.27\00:26:03.55
and I'm kind of confused
00:26:03.58\00:26:05.57
and I'm having these
doubts pop up in my head
00:26:05.60\00:26:07.84
and I'm like what is this?
00:26:07.87\00:26:09.45
This is some kind of Voodoo.
00:26:09.48\00:26:10.78
That's the only word
that came in my head.
00:26:10.81\00:26:12.24
I was like, "What kind of
Voodoo is this lady doing?"
00:26:12.32\00:26:15.72
And at this point
she was just about done,
00:26:15.75\00:26:17.49
she finished up with his ankles
00:26:17.52\00:26:18.89
and she sat up and
she woke Darien up,
00:26:18.92\00:26:23.87
the only way that he
woke up is by her control.
00:26:23.90\00:26:27.33
She made him wake
up and so then she--
00:26:27.36\00:26:30.85
She told me how much it was
00:26:30.88\00:26:32.28
and I was writing
out a check for her
00:26:33.47\00:26:34.57
and I asked
her-- I don't even know
00:26:34.60\00:26:37.78
where these questions came from
00:26:37.81\00:26:39.10
'cause I was just like
so confused but I said,
00:26:39.13\00:26:41.06
"Okay, so is he
gonna be better now,
00:26:41.09\00:26:43.78
is he gonna get better?"
00:26:43.81\00:26:44.84
And she looked at me kind
of bewildered and she's like,
00:26:44.87\00:26:47.58
"What do you mean,
is he gonna get better?"
00:26:47.61\00:26:49.16
She had told me she's
gonna find out the rest
00:26:49.19\00:26:51.62
'cause she had only
heard a very little bit
00:26:51.65\00:26:54.25
about his medical
background and she said,
00:26:54.28\00:26:58.98
"What do you mean
he's gonna get better?"
00:26:59.01\00:27:00.79
I said, "Well, his allergies,
does his asthma gonna go away?"
00:27:00.83\00:27:03.75
'Cause at this time
he's been hospitalized
00:27:03.78\00:27:05.75
a couple of times
because of asthma.
00:27:05.78\00:27:07.45
I said, "Does his
asthma gonna be better?
00:27:07.48\00:27:09.28
Does his
allergies gonna go away?"
00:27:09.31\00:27:11.71
And she's like,
well, and I said,
00:27:11.74\00:27:14.13
"Do I have to come
back for another treatment?
00:27:14.16\00:27:15.91
And she said, "Well,
I definitely recommend
00:27:15.94\00:27:17.46
coming back for
another treatment.
00:27:17.49\00:27:19.54
But she said as for how
many treatments he needs
00:27:19.57\00:27:22.89
I don't know, but she said
00:27:22.92\00:27:24.25
for sure he'll
probably need another treatment
00:27:24.28\00:27:26.43
and she said but,
"All I can tell you is that
00:27:26.46\00:27:30.80
he's going to get stronger.
00:27:30.83\00:27:32.51
So this is some of the things
00:27:32.54\00:27:33.89
that you can look
for some side effects.
00:27:33.92\00:27:37.29
She said, "When
he's playing outside
00:27:37.32\00:27:39.43
or playing with other
children or whatever he is doing
00:27:39.46\00:27:41.72
don't be
surprised if all of a sudden
00:27:41.75\00:27:43.59
he just falls asleep right away
00:27:43.62\00:27:45.58
like whether you
are traveling in the van
00:27:45.61\00:27:47.32
and it's the
middle of the morning
00:27:47.36\00:27:48.63
or middle afternoon like
he'll fall asleep quickly
00:27:48.66\00:27:51.49
or he'll be playing
outside with the other kids
00:27:51.52\00:27:54.07
and boom he'll fall asleep.
00:27:54.10\00:27:55.28
He might even fall
asleep in the grass
00:27:55.31\00:27:56.64
but don't be bewildered by that.
00:27:56.67\00:27:59.25
Don't be surprised
because that's his body
00:27:59.28\00:28:01.89
needing rest to get stronger,
to fight what's inside of him."
00:28:01.92\00:28:06.23
I was like, "Okay well,
maybe his body needs to fight,
00:28:06.26\00:28:10.38
you know there are
cellular rejuvenation
00:28:10.41\00:28:12.76
or something and
he needs extra rest
00:28:12.79\00:28:14.54
and I was kind of
trying to justify it and then,
00:28:14.57\00:28:18.21
well, I was trying to justify it
00:28:18.24\00:28:19.64
the way she is explaining it.
00:28:19.67\00:28:21.39
Well, of course
because you asked her,
00:28:21.42\00:28:22.52
"Was he gonna be better?"
00:28:22.55\00:28:24.14
Because you came there
with the set of symptoms
00:28:24.17\00:28:27.63
that you wanted to know,
00:28:27.66\00:28:28.73
is this gonna
work for what he's got.
00:28:28.76\00:28:31.07
Yeah.
00:28:31.10\00:28:32.15
So go ahead.
00:28:32.18\00:28:33.21
And so then after that we went--
00:28:33.24\00:28:36.56
I asked her another
question or she began,
00:28:36.59\00:28:39.40
she kept on explaining
the things and then she said,
00:28:39.43\00:28:42.63
"And don't be surprised
00:28:42.66\00:28:44.02
when he is playing
with the other kids
00:28:44.05\00:28:45.36
if he gets more
aggressive if he's gonna-
00:28:45.39\00:28:48.11
he need to get stronger to
fight what's inside of him."
00:28:48.15\00:28:52.09
And I was like, like,
00:28:52.12\00:28:55.55
I was like "I don't
want my son to be meaner?"
00:28:55.58\00:28:57.85
Like when you
think of aggression
00:28:57.88\00:28:59.31
and I was like
okay he's gonna fight
00:28:59.34\00:29:00.68
with the other kids now.
00:29:00.71\00:29:01.82
She's like, "No, no,
don't let it alarm you though
00:29:01.86\00:29:04.07
because he needs to get stronger
00:29:04.10\00:29:06.10
for what's inside of him
00:29:06.13\00:29:07.87
and this is something
that you're going to notice."
00:29:07.90\00:29:09.93
She said it's not
gonna happen overnight
00:29:09.96\00:29:11.92
but it will happen eventually."
00:29:11.95\00:29:13.44
She said, "I don't
know long it's gonna take
00:29:13.47\00:29:15.16
before you're gonna
start to see these things
00:29:15.19\00:29:17.57
but this is what's gonna happen.
00:29:17.60\00:29:19.70
And so then out of the
blue I just asked her a question
00:29:19.73\00:29:23.07
and I and I just threw
this question out there
00:29:23.11\00:29:25.86
'cause at this
point I didn't even know
00:29:25.89\00:29:27.27
what kind of
therapy I just paid for.
00:29:27.30\00:29:28.92
I wrote a check out
to her not a practice
00:29:28.95\00:29:31.22
or clinic or
something-- just to her name
00:29:31.25\00:29:34.59
and I said, "So what
kind of work is this?"
00:29:34.62\00:29:36.51
I said, "Is this reiki?"
00:29:36.54\00:29:38.57
And I just
dropped the reiki word.
00:29:38.60\00:29:39.99
I said, "Is this
reilki? And she kind of laughed.
00:29:40.02\00:29:42.85
She's like, "No."
00:29:42.88\00:29:44.10
She's like, "This is not reiki."
00:29:44.13\00:29:45.84
She's like, "I don't
limit my source of energy.
00:29:45.88\00:29:49.05
I use universal energy
and she lifted her hands up
00:29:49.08\00:29:53.88
to the sky and
she kind of laughed.
00:29:53.91\00:29:55.46
She's like, "I don't
limit my source of energy
00:29:55.49\00:29:58.62
not to just reiki."
00:29:58.65\00:30:01.09
And I said, "Okay,
and my sister at this time
00:30:01.12\00:30:05.20
I knew was
doing something called
00:30:05.23\00:30:08.16
Angel Empowerment Practitioner.
00:30:08.19\00:30:09.99
She was an Angel
Empowerment Practitioner, AEP
00:30:10.02\00:30:13.02
and so she was
telling me about angel therapy
00:30:13.05\00:30:16.60
and how she was helping
people through angel therapy
00:30:16.63\00:30:18.70
so I started asking, I said,
"Well, do you believe in angels
00:30:18.73\00:30:21.29
and like this angel therapy,
00:30:21.32\00:30:23.09
is that what, is
that who you're using,
00:30:23.13\00:30:24.36
are you using
angels to do this?"
00:30:24.39\00:30:26.23
And she kind of looked at
me weirdly and she's like,
00:30:26.26\00:30:28.52
"No, she said, I
use universal energy,
00:30:28.55\00:30:30.37
I don't limit myself in
the sources of my energy
00:30:30.40\00:30:34.03
and I said, "Do you
believe in Jesus Christ?"
00:30:34.06\00:30:36.56
And it just-- I blurted it out,
00:30:36.59\00:30:38.61
I don't even know
how when I reflect on it,
00:30:38.64\00:30:40.86
I don't even know
00:30:40.89\00:30:41.93
where the confidence
of the words came from
00:30:41.96\00:30:43.91
because I don't even
believe it was me that said it
00:30:43.94\00:30:48.27
and I said, "Do you
believe in Jesus Christ?"
00:30:48.31\00:30:51.04
And she laughed
again and she said,
00:30:51.07\00:30:52.67
"No," She's like, 'I
don't believe in any religion.
00:30:52.70\00:30:56.67
And so basically at
that point I was like,
00:30:56.70\00:30:58.81
"Okay, well, she
doesn't believe in religion,
00:30:58.84\00:31:00.66
she does not believe in Jesus."
00:31:00.69\00:31:04.04
She believes Jesus is
associated to religion
00:31:04.07\00:31:06.98
and, "I'm not here
for a spiritual debate
00:31:07.01\00:31:08.79
so I'm just gonna
leave now and that's it"
00:31:08.82\00:31:12.48
'Cause she already
showed me her authority
00:31:12.51\00:31:14.49
when we were in the
room and I'm not here
00:31:14.52\00:31:16.50
for a spiritual debate so
I can just leave and go now.
00:31:16.53\00:31:20.06
When she said to you,
I don't believe in Jesus,
00:31:20.09\00:31:23.64
did that set of something in you
00:31:23.67\00:31:27.94
based on what had happened?
00:31:27.97\00:31:29.10
I know that at that
point in your spiritual walk
00:31:29.13\00:31:31.83
you weren't really
walking with the Lord
00:31:31.86\00:31:34.02
the way you wanted to
be or the way you are now
00:31:34.05\00:31:37.54
but did that set off
some kind of like little alarm
00:31:37.57\00:31:40.26
or red flag in your head
00:31:40.29\00:31:41.53
that she said I don't
believe in Jesus Christ?
00:31:41.56\00:31:45.14
I don't believe
I did at that time
00:31:45.17\00:31:47.60
because there is a lot of
people that I come across,
00:31:47.63\00:31:49.80
I'm in a secular
world that don't know
00:31:49.83\00:31:52.03
who Jesus really is,
so it never at that time
00:31:52.06\00:31:55.81
but later on when I reflected
on it, then I knew for sure.
00:31:55.84\00:32:00.13
When God revealed to
us through the problems
00:32:00.16\00:32:02.89
we were having,
then I was like, "Wow."
00:32:02.92\00:32:05.36
'Cause I left the feeling
so when I got into the vehicle,
00:32:05.39\00:32:08.25
my husband was waiting
00:32:08.28\00:32:09.31
with the other
children in the van.
00:32:09.34\00:32:11.10
He's like, "What in the
world were you doing in there,
00:32:11.13\00:32:13.19
that was an hour and a half."
00:32:13.22\00:32:15.04
He's like, "I've never
seen a massage therapist
00:32:15.07\00:32:17.11
take an hour and a half.
00:32:17.14\00:32:18.18
I want to know what kind
of massage she was giving."
00:32:18.21\00:32:20.19
'Cause he's like,
"I want a massage too
00:32:20.22\00:32:22.07
for an hour and a half.
00:32:22.10\00:32:23.42
Did he think she
was a massage therapist?
00:32:23.45\00:32:25.10
Well, we
thought, it was gonna be
00:32:25.13\00:32:26.57
some kind of massage or
chiropractic and you know,
00:32:26.60\00:32:29.01
chiropractic treatment
is less than 10 minutes
00:32:29.04\00:32:31.19
or massage most you'll
get is 45 minutes right?
00:32:31.22\00:32:35.03
But this was an hour
and 30 minutes and I said,
00:32:35.06\00:32:37.11
"Really, has it been that long?"
00:32:37.14\00:32:39.26
And he's like, "Yeah,
he's like I can't believe
00:32:39.29\00:32:42.05
how long I was in there."
00:32:42.08\00:32:43.44
And it's like, "Well, get me
out of here as soon as possible
00:32:43.47\00:32:46.22
'cause it was all voodoo.
00:32:46.25\00:32:47.35
I said, "Just get out of here."
00:32:47.38\00:32:48.71
He's like what do mean?
00:32:48.74\00:32:49.93
Tell me, what did
she do? What did she do?"
00:32:49.96\00:32:51.33
And I explained how
she had put him to sleep
00:32:51.36\00:32:53.87
and that she
never even touched him.
00:32:53.90\00:32:54.94
She didn't even
physically touch him
00:32:54.97\00:32:56.58
and except for the
one instance with his leg
00:32:56.61\00:33:00.10
and I can't remember exactly
what she had done to his arms,
00:33:00.13\00:33:02.88
but I know she touched his arms
00:33:02.91\00:33:04.33
but the one real
physical thing in that
00:33:04.36\00:33:06.70
I remembered that she did
00:33:06.73\00:33:07.90
is when she had
twisted and manipulated his leg
00:33:07.93\00:33:11.23
and I was like, when I
told him that he's like,
00:33:11.26\00:33:14.58
"Let's go."
00:33:14.62\00:33:15.83
He's like, "I can't believe
00:33:15.86\00:33:16.89
that we just
spent $150 on that."
00:33:16.92\00:33:19.67
And I was like,
"Yeah, me neither."
00:33:19.70\00:33:21.13
So-
00:33:21.16\00:33:22.19
You know, I think
while you were in there,
00:33:22.22\00:33:25.02
the Holy Spirit had you ask her,
00:33:25.05\00:33:27.63
"Do you believe
in Jesus Christ?"
00:33:27.66\00:33:29.09
Because God is
our mighty fortress.
00:33:29.12\00:33:34.75
He is the one
that we can depend on
00:33:34.78\00:33:37.25
even when we're
walking away from Him,
00:33:37.28\00:33:39.43
even when we are
not walking with Him,
00:33:39.46\00:33:42.18
what a mighty fortress?
00:33:42.21\00:33:43.25
I truly believe that too,
00:33:43.28\00:33:44.53
when you accept Jesus
Christ as your savior,
00:33:44.56\00:33:46.80
He's with you all the time.
00:33:46.83\00:33:48.31
Yes. All the time.
00:33:48.34\00:33:49.90
And I believe He was
there protecting me that day,
00:33:49.93\00:33:53.09
even though maybe I
wasn't asking Him for guidance,
00:33:53.12\00:33:55.86
He wasn't
interfering on my free will.
00:33:55.89\00:33:57.98
He was letting me
have this experience
00:33:58.01\00:34:00.18
but there was
things happening like
00:34:00.21\00:34:01.84
when I asked that question
00:34:01.87\00:34:03.03
and maybe it didn't
mean anything to me then,
00:34:03.06\00:34:05.22
but as you'll see
like 18 months later,
00:34:05.25\00:34:07.29
wow, then I knew for
sure what I was dealing with
00:34:07.32\00:34:10.60
and it was quite a revelation.
00:34:10.63\00:34:13.10
And I want us to
really look at that.
00:34:13.13\00:34:15.97
I want-- we have a song
00:34:16.00\00:34:18.43
that I think
would be great for you
00:34:18.46\00:34:20.51
to hear right
now by Jaime Jorge.
00:34:20.54\00:34:23.87
"A Mighty Fortress is
Our God." Let's listen.
00:34:23.90\00:34:27.91
Whoo!
00:37:59.62\00:38:00.67
That's the two
handers Danny would say.
00:38:00.70\00:38:02.85
That is so powerful.
00:38:02.88\00:38:04.68
Jaime Jorge just makes
that violin sing, doesn't he?
00:38:04.71\00:38:07.89
It's incredible.
00:38:07.92\00:38:09.67
So we left off with you
and your husband and son
00:38:09.70\00:38:13.73
pulling away from that "energy
medicine practitioner's" place.
00:38:13.76\00:38:20.67
What happened after that?
00:38:20.70\00:38:22.28
Well, we were on our drive home,
00:38:22.31\00:38:24.57
and my sister had called me
00:38:24.60\00:38:26.30
and she lives in a province over
00:38:26.33\00:38:27.79
and she lives in Saskatchewan
00:38:27.82\00:38:28.97
and she knew that we
were going to do this
00:38:29.00\00:38:31.53
and she asked me and she
said, "Hey, so how did it go,
00:38:31.56\00:38:34.54
what did she do and
I explained everything
00:38:34.57\00:38:36.36
that had happened
00:38:36.39\00:38:37.67
and then she told me something
that I'll never forget.
00:38:37.70\00:38:40.96
She's like, well, she's like,
00:38:40.99\00:38:43.16
"You know, I can do
exactly what she did."
00:38:43.19\00:38:46.63
And I said, "What?
00:38:46.66\00:38:48.23
You don't even
know what she did.
00:38:48.26\00:38:49.46
You weren't even there."
And she's like, "Trust me."
00:38:49.49\00:38:52.39
She's like, "I can do it."
00:38:52.42\00:38:53.54
She's like, "You don't
know everything that I can do."
00:38:53.57\00:38:56.08
And I told you
earlier she was doing
00:38:56.11\00:38:57.97
this Angel
Empowerment Practitioner
00:38:58.00\00:38:59.71
and I knew she
had taken this course
00:38:59.74\00:39:01.40
and she had these cards.
00:39:01.43\00:39:03.51
They are called angel
cards and so and she--
00:39:03.54\00:39:07.68
she was-- she's
very, very influential.
00:39:07.71\00:39:11.53
And so there's always
00:39:11.56\00:39:13.16
a little bit of
curiosity behind anything
00:39:13.19\00:39:15.34
when you learn something new,
it's like, "Is this for real?
00:39:15.37\00:39:18.34
Is it like, can
you really do this
00:39:18.37\00:39:20.60
and she's like,
"Well, I'll tell you what."
00:39:20.63\00:39:22.06
She's like I can probably
00:39:22.09\00:39:23.52
even do it better
than that woman did."
00:39:23.55\00:39:26.13
But she said, "I'm
not gonna charge you $150
00:39:26.16\00:39:28.66
to do it like she did.
00:39:28.69\00:39:30.29
And I was like, "What?
00:39:30.32\00:39:31.46
She said, "The next
time we come to visit,
00:39:31.49\00:39:33.75
will you let me work on Darien?
00:39:33.78\00:39:35.52
And again she used
that word "work" she's like,
00:39:35.55\00:39:37.48
"Will you let me work on Darien?
00:39:37.51\00:39:39.48
And I was like, "Wow."
00:39:39.51\00:39:41.68
At this point I didn't
think that they did anything.
00:39:41.71\00:39:44.12
I was like, "Well, I guess so."
00:39:44.15\00:39:45.43
I said, "I don't
see any harm in it.
00:39:45.46\00:39:46.96
She didn't do anything anyway.
00:39:46.99\00:39:48.66
He looks exactly the
same as when we went in there
00:39:48.69\00:39:51.16
and she did say
00:39:51.19\00:39:52.22
that he would
probably need more treatments
00:39:52.25\00:39:54.13
and if you're
not gonna charge me."
00:39:54.16\00:39:55.66
And I had such
strong bondage to money
00:39:55.69\00:39:58.43
that I was like you know,
00:39:58.46\00:40:00.15
"Well, if you're not
gonna charge me to do it,
00:40:00.18\00:40:01.76
then yeah, I don't
see any harm in it.
00:40:01.79\00:40:03.97
So she's like,
"Okay," she's like,
00:40:04.00\00:40:05.95
"well, next time we come
home to visit, I'll do it."
00:40:05.98\00:40:08.80
And so sure enough
it wasn't very long
00:40:08.83\00:40:10.85
after maybe it was
a month or so later,
00:40:10.88\00:40:12.99
she was at her house
00:40:13.02\00:40:14.07
and she always
took her angel cards
00:40:14.10\00:40:15.68
every where she went
and she took her stones
00:40:15.71\00:40:18.54
and every thing that
she had with her and,
00:40:18.57\00:40:21.68
she asked, she said,
"Can I go work on Darien?"
00:40:21.71\00:40:24.16
And they were all the
kids were outside playing
00:40:24.19\00:40:26.41
and having a great
time was nice outside.
00:40:26.44\00:40:28.37
And I was like, "Yeah, sure."
00:40:28.40\00:40:29.49
She's like, "You never noticed
anything different from him
00:40:29.52\00:40:31.49
since his first one,
his first treatment?"
00:40:31.53\00:40:33.58
And I said, "No,
everything is exactly the same."
00:40:33.61\00:40:35.86
Even Dallas, my husband said,
00:40:35.89\00:40:37.53
"Everything is
exactly the same."
00:40:37.56\00:40:39.71
And she's like, "Okay."
00:40:39.74\00:40:40.95
So we took him in the
bedroom, my husband never came.
00:40:40.98\00:40:43.58
Just it was my
sister, myself and my son
00:40:43.61\00:40:46.02
and she literally did exactly
the same thing that lady did.
00:40:46.05\00:40:49.25
Within 45 seconds, she
had him in a deep sleep.
00:40:49.28\00:40:52.40
She never did anything to him.
00:40:52.43\00:40:53.57
All she did was like
talk to him really softly.
00:40:53.60\00:40:56.05
She looked at him in his eyes
00:40:56.08\00:40:57.51
and she just laid
him down on the bed
00:40:57.54\00:40:59.61
and it was only
for about 45 minutes
00:40:59.64\00:41:02.02
but she basically
did the same thing.
00:41:02.05\00:41:03.55
There was no
talking, no touching
00:41:03.58\00:41:05.46
and she just waved her
hands over top of his head
00:41:05.49\00:41:07.67
and chest for about 45
minutes and then she woke him up
00:41:07.70\00:41:13.49
and so that was--
we were like, "Wow."
00:41:13.52\00:41:16.11
My husband asked me afterwards,
00:41:16.14\00:41:17.38
"So did she do exactly
the same as that lady did?"
00:41:17.41\00:41:19.93
And I said, "Yeah,
she was exactly the same."
00:41:19.96\00:41:22.08
He's like, "Really?"
He's like, "That's crazy."
00:41:22.11\00:41:25.05
He's like, he had this
little bit of disbelief
00:41:25.08\00:41:28.01
though 'cause he
had never seen it
00:41:28.04\00:41:29.22
and I said,
"Well, you know what?
00:41:29.25\00:41:30.29
I'm never doing it again
00:41:30.32\00:41:31.58
unless you're
gonna be in the room
00:41:31.61\00:41:32.72
so you can see it for yourself.
00:41:32.75\00:41:34.97
And so actually what
happened inside at that visit,
00:41:35.00\00:41:39.24
she actually did a card reading
for myself and on my husband
00:41:39.27\00:41:43.42
and we weren't in
the room with each other.
00:41:43.45\00:41:45.58
They were on
separate occasions but--
00:41:45.61\00:41:48.06
Were the cards like tarot cards?
00:41:48.09\00:41:50.04
Oh, yeah exactly.
00:41:50.07\00:41:51.12
So, they-- they foretell
00:41:51.15\00:41:52.70
the future and
that kind of thing.
00:41:52.73\00:41:54.17
Yeah, the only difference is,
00:41:54.20\00:41:56.37
is that every single
one are her readings.
00:41:56.40\00:41:59.53
There was always medium ship
00:41:59.56\00:42:00.85
and she was always
talking to a spirit god
00:42:00.88\00:42:02.95
or she was always talking
to some one that was deceased
00:42:02.98\00:42:06.69
and then there
was always a message
00:42:06.72\00:42:08.04
from the deceased person.
00:42:08.07\00:42:09.18
Every-- So she's a medium?
00:42:09.21\00:42:10.64
She was a medium.
00:42:10.67\00:42:11.70
She's Angel Practitioner medium.
00:42:11.73\00:42:14.18
Wow.
00:42:14.21\00:42:15.24
And so every card
reading she ever did,
00:42:15.27\00:42:17.59
there was medium ship
involved and I didn't know
00:42:17.62\00:42:20.09
because I knew
that state of the dead
00:42:20.13\00:42:22.21
and no body can argue with
me about the state of the dead
00:42:22.24\00:42:25.16
because I know what
the scriptures says.
00:42:25.19\00:42:27.00
We studied this.
00:42:27.03\00:42:28.06
This is something that
I had it as a foundation
00:42:28.09\00:42:30.09
and I could never argue with.
00:42:30.12\00:42:31.85
And yet when I
went into that meeting,
00:42:31.88\00:42:33.68
I told her, you can
do the card reading,
00:42:33.71\00:42:35.95
but there can be no medium ship.
00:42:35.98\00:42:38.25
But she didn't
tell me beforehand
00:42:38.28\00:42:40.02
that every card
reading always has a message.
00:42:40.05\00:42:43.16
That's for through medium ship.
00:42:43.19\00:42:45.38
So you were thinking
that it's okay to do the cards
00:42:45.41\00:42:51.05
but just keep
the dead thing out.
00:42:51.08\00:42:52.21
I didn't think it was
okay, but I was curious.
00:42:52.44\00:42:55.24
So I did it anyway.
00:42:55.27\00:42:57.50
And you know
that-- that you used
00:42:57.53\00:42:59.39
that term
curious about four times,
00:42:59.42\00:43:01.68
in Acts 19:19, if
we're forced to curious arts,
00:43:01.71\00:43:06.86
so go ahead,
we'll talk about that.
00:43:06.89\00:43:09.32
So what happened?
She read your cards.
00:43:09.35\00:43:12.30
Did you at any point--
The reason why I'm asking
00:43:12.33\00:43:17.25
this is because at
one point in my life I--
00:43:17.28\00:43:20.73
Well, I used to
practice "alternative medicine,"
00:43:20.76\00:43:23.53
"holistic
medicine," new age medicine
00:43:23.56\00:43:26.09
that I didn't realize it.
00:43:26.12\00:43:27.54
And at one point
though years and years ago,
00:43:27.57\00:43:31.60
there was a psychic
that I sang for a session
00:43:31.63\00:43:35.69
for I wasn't Adventist,
I would gone away from Lord
00:43:35.73\00:43:38.61
and I sang for this
session and she said,
00:43:38.64\00:43:41.32
"I have something to tell you."
00:43:41.35\00:43:43.15
And I just thought
she wanted to say thanks
00:43:43.18\00:43:45.84
and instead she
started reading me
00:43:45.87\00:43:49.40
and she started saying,
00:43:49.43\00:43:51.55
giving me
things and then saying,
00:43:51.58\00:43:53.22
"Oh, okay thank you, thank you
00:43:53.25\00:43:54.70
and then coming back
and telling me things
00:43:54.73\00:43:56.57
and I felt at the
end I was so curious.
00:43:56.60\00:44:00.02
I wanted to know
what she had to say
00:44:00.05\00:44:02.89
but when it was
over, I felt so guilty.
00:44:02.92\00:44:06.02
Yeah.
00:44:06.05\00:44:07.08
Is that what happened to
you? What happened to you?
00:44:07.11\00:44:08.26
Well, for me, she never
came to me telling me adamant
00:44:08.29\00:44:11.47
that how she got into
medium ship and into--
00:44:11.50\00:44:14.09
that's how somebody came to her.
00:44:14.12\00:44:15.33
It's like they went up to
her at a new age trade show
00:44:15.36\00:44:19.15
and that's how
she even got into it.
00:44:19.18\00:44:21.76
But that's her story
and hopefully someday
00:44:21.79\00:44:24.31
she'll be able to
come and share that.
00:44:24.34\00:44:25.98
Yes, absolutely.
But anyway for me-
00:44:26.01\00:44:27.91
How did you feel?
00:44:27.94\00:44:28.99
How did I feel?
00:44:29.02\00:44:30.22
I just wanted to see
what she's gonna say.
00:44:30.25\00:44:32.07
I was just curious you
know, " What are you gonna say?"
00:44:32.10\00:44:34.54
And she brought up
somebody from my past
00:44:34.57\00:44:36.91
that had died that
was really close to me
00:44:36.94\00:44:38.83
and meant a lot to me
00:44:38.86\00:44:40.03
and that whole
message just shook me.
00:44:40.06\00:44:42.09
It's like, "How do you
even know these things?"
00:44:42.12\00:44:44.32
Like how do you
like, it was just unnerving
00:44:44.35\00:44:48.05
the things that she said
00:44:48.08\00:44:49.11
and the things
that she had brought up
00:44:49.14\00:44:50.79
and afterwards I
had a sense of guilt
00:44:50.82\00:44:53.10
that just came over
top of me and I was like,
00:44:53.13\00:44:55.31
"I know the state of
the dead and the dead
00:44:55.34\00:44:58.27
do not sit beside me,
the dead are not trying
00:44:58.30\00:45:00.52
to connect with
me or speak to me.
00:45:00.55\00:45:02.26
Right!
00:45:02.29\00:45:03.32
But she was so
convincing and I was like,
00:45:03.35\00:45:05.57
"I know what the
Bible says in the word."
00:45:05.60\00:45:07.67
But then she did my
husband afterwards too
00:45:07.70\00:45:09.50
so then we were both confused.
00:45:09.53\00:45:12.60
So how did, I can't
believe our time is getting
00:45:12.63\00:45:15.78
by us so quickly.
00:45:15.81\00:45:16.89
How did you find out the truth?
00:45:16.92\00:45:21.68
What was the journey like?
How did you find out the truth?
00:45:21.71\00:45:23.90
Well, there was
like lots of things
00:45:23.93\00:45:25.35
that happened after that.
00:45:25.38\00:45:26.68
There was-- my husband
00:45:26.71\00:45:27.74
actually got to witness her
to work on our son one time.
00:45:27.77\00:45:30.63
And then, that was
actually at her house
00:45:30.66\00:45:32.99
and something happened there
00:45:33.02\00:45:34.44
because she believed that
she was working with angels.
00:45:34.47\00:45:36.99
And the second time
she worked on my son,
00:45:37.02\00:45:39.00
when they were
done working on him,
00:45:39.03\00:45:40.41
it was exactly the
same as the first time
00:45:40.44\00:45:42.39
but she spoke to
Darien and she said,
00:45:42.42\00:45:44.18
"Darien, can
you see your angel?"
00:45:44.21\00:45:46.66
And he said, "Yes."
00:45:46.69\00:45:48.16
And she's like
what does he look like?
00:45:48.19\00:45:49.99
Is he beautiful?"
00:45:50.02\00:45:51.09
And he's like,
"Yeah, he's so beautiful."
00:45:51.12\00:45:53.57
And she said,
"What color is he?"
00:45:53.60\00:45:55.27
And he said, "He's black."
00:45:55.30\00:45:56.75
And so she just - she said
00:45:56.78\00:45:59.01
he looks like a black man
like with a really dark skin
00:45:59.04\00:46:02.16
and I was like,
"That's just creepy."
00:46:02.19\00:46:04.25
'Cause she said he is
standing right behind me.
00:46:04.28\00:46:05.74
He can see him right now
00:46:05.77\00:46:07.48
and so Darien saw
him and she's like,
00:46:07.52\00:46:09.33
"Okay, Darien, you
can go and play now."
00:46:09.36\00:46:11.54
And that night, so
my husband was just--
00:46:11.57\00:46:14.38
well, at this point my husband
00:46:14.41\00:46:16.01
didn't even want to
go visit her any more.
00:46:16.04\00:46:17.92
We were together
that night going to bed.
00:46:17.95\00:46:20.03
He said, Wendy, he's
like, "your sister scares me,
00:46:20.06\00:46:22.58
she talks to dead people,
00:46:22.61\00:46:23.83
she'll spend all day
talking to your dead grandma
00:46:23.86\00:46:26.27
and like I just
don't feel real comfortable
00:46:26.30\00:46:28.78
even being at her house anymore.
00:46:28.81\00:46:30.11
I don't want to
come visit her anymore."
00:46:30.14\00:46:31.39
And I said, "You know
what? Don't worry about it.
00:46:31.42\00:46:32.90
It's okay."
00:46:32.93\00:46:34.80
Like I said she's
talking about angels
00:46:34.83\00:46:36.62
like archangel
Michael and archangel Raphael
00:46:36.65\00:46:40.47
and you know, these
are all biblical angels
00:46:40.50\00:46:42.84
and so I kind of justified it.
00:46:42.87\00:46:44.89
On that night
when we went to bed
00:46:44.92\00:46:46.99
at about 3
o'clock in the morning
00:46:47.02\00:46:48.78
our son woke up and
had an asthma attack
00:46:48.81\00:46:50.94
and the way our, we were staying
00:46:50.97\00:46:52.76
in our Fifth Wheel trailer
and I could see that moonlight
00:46:52.79\00:46:55.72
was coming
through all the windows
00:46:55.75\00:46:57.04
so I could see right
from where I was sleeping
00:46:57.07\00:46:58.73
right to the end of the trailer
00:46:58.76\00:47:00.01
'cause the door was
open were the kids room was.
00:47:00.04\00:47:02.40
And when I woke up,
I heard him coughing.
00:47:02.43\00:47:04.69
I had to go give
him his medicine.
00:47:04.72\00:47:07.54
There was a man
kneeling down beside him
00:47:07.57\00:47:10.11
on one knee with his
hands over top of his head
00:47:10.14\00:47:13.96
and I screamed out loud
and I was just so startled
00:47:13.99\00:47:18.77
and so frightened
and my husband woke up
00:47:18.80\00:47:21.02
just the second
before I screamed,
00:47:21.05\00:47:22.19
he's like," What
- what's going on?"
00:47:22.22\00:47:23.25
What's going on?
00:47:23.28\00:47:24.31
And I said, "Did you
see, did you see it?"
00:47:24.34\00:47:25.87
And he's like-- and he's like,
00:47:25.90\00:47:27.60
"Yeah, I saw it."
00:47:27.63\00:47:28.93
And I probably
wouldn't have even believed
00:47:28.96\00:47:30.55
what I saw if he didn't agree
00:47:30.58\00:47:32.20
that he had seen
it too and he's like,
00:47:32.23\00:47:34.86
"Yeah, I saw, who was that?"
00:47:34.89\00:47:36.24
And I was like, I don't
know and it was a dark man.
00:47:36.27\00:47:38.63
It was like a dark
skin man just like the one
00:47:38.66\00:47:41.48
they had described
earlier that afternoon.
00:47:41.51\00:47:44.23
His own personal demon.
00:47:44.26\00:47:46.45
Well, his personal
angel is what they told us
00:47:46.48\00:47:49.71
and so I woke up
and but she had told us
00:47:49.74\00:47:52.98
that day that he had six.
00:47:53.01\00:47:54.71
He had six angels.
00:47:54.74\00:47:55.80
In the afternoon she said,
00:47:55.83\00:47:56.86
"I see six angels
with him all the time.
00:47:56.89\00:47:59.09
Most people have three or four
00:47:59.12\00:48:00.98
but he's really, really special.
00:48:01.01\00:48:03.15
For some reason he
has a big purpose in life
00:48:03.18\00:48:05.95
and he had six angels
with him all the time."
00:48:05.98\00:48:09.49
And so, she said,
00:48:09.52\00:48:11.58
"Some people don't have
any which is really weird."
00:48:11.61\00:48:13.39
But she said he had six
00:48:13.42\00:48:15.23
and most people have
two or three, may be four.
00:48:15.26\00:48:17.82
And so that night we
saw the one that he had seen
00:48:17.85\00:48:20.61
and I couldn't sleep.
00:48:20.64\00:48:21.93
Dallas is like, "Wendy, I
don't know what happened,"
00:48:21.96\00:48:24.96
but he said,
"I'm praying right now
00:48:24.99\00:48:26.76
and we prayed for Jesus Christ.
00:48:26.79\00:48:28.08
We prayed for Jesus Christ
00:48:28.11\00:48:29.42
to come into that
trailer right at that moment.
00:48:29.45\00:48:31.90
I knew that my Bible was there.
00:48:31.93\00:48:33.33
I had a Bible
somewhere tucked in by my bed
00:48:33.36\00:48:35.47
but we never
grabbed it or any thing
00:48:35.50\00:48:36.96
but we just prayed aloud.
00:48:36.99\00:48:38.17
We're like, "Jesus,
we need you right now.
00:48:38.20\00:48:40.24
Come into our
trailer, protect us,
00:48:40.27\00:48:42.19
we don't know what we
just saw but whatever it was,
00:48:42.22\00:48:44.61
we just have a feeling that
we need you with us right now."
00:48:44.64\00:48:47.39
And he sent me to go down
00:48:47.42\00:48:49.00
and go give our
son the medicine.
00:48:49.03\00:48:50.59
I was like, we were frightened.
00:48:50.62\00:48:52.35
We were scared and
I never slept a wink
00:48:52.38\00:48:54.68
for the rest of the night.
00:48:54.71\00:48:56.33
The next morning I
went and saw my sister
00:48:56.36\00:48:58.51
and I asked her
when she was up, I said,
00:48:58.54\00:49:00.57
"What in the world did you do
00:49:00.60\00:49:01.87
because we saw that black person
00:49:01.90\00:49:05.07
that you guys were describing?
00:49:05.10\00:49:06.82
Dallas and I saw him
00:49:06.85\00:49:08.18
when Darien was having
an asthma attack at night."
00:49:08.21\00:49:10.49
And she's like, "Why
are you getting all upset?"
00:49:10.52\00:49:12.23
And her voice was so soft,
00:49:12.26\00:49:13.46
she's like, "Why are you upset?"
00:49:13.49\00:49:15.12
She's like, "Isn't it wonderful,
00:49:15.15\00:49:17.12
you got to see his
angel, oh, my gosh,
00:49:17.15\00:49:19.75
I'm so happy, you
got to finally see it.
00:49:19.78\00:49:22.36
Oh, isn't he beautiful
00:49:22.39\00:49:23.94
and he was his
guardian angel and he was there.
00:49:23.97\00:49:26.17
He was probably
there to wake you up
00:49:26.20\00:49:27.76
so you would give
Darien his medicine."
00:49:27.79\00:49:30.03
And I was just, I was
like - I wasn't 100% convinced
00:49:30.06\00:49:33.94
but she definitely
had a good argument.
00:49:33.97\00:49:37.58
So what happened after that is,
00:49:37.61\00:49:40.03
really, really gradually his
personality started to change.
00:49:40.06\00:49:44.69
We started
noticing when he would fall
00:49:44.72\00:49:46.28
asleep quickly and
we're like, "Oh, well,
00:49:46.31\00:49:48.20
it's because he's
going through a growth spurt.
00:49:48.23\00:49:49.73
He's growing up, you know,
00:49:49.76\00:49:50.80
he's sleeping a lot
more, stuff like that.
00:49:50.83\00:49:53.82
And what had happened
00:49:53.85\00:49:55.12
is I call it spiritual insomnia
because I had only attested
00:49:55.15\00:49:59.40
my personal experience
from being with that woman
00:49:59.43\00:50:02.76
or even the
experiences with my sister,
00:50:02.79\00:50:05.19
they got so far
back in my memory
00:50:05.22\00:50:06.93
that I forgot that all
those things that happened.
00:50:06.96\00:50:09.35
I call it spiritual insomnia
00:50:09.38\00:50:11.50
and as all my son's
personality started to change,
00:50:11.53\00:50:15.22
he stared
kindergarten in the fall
00:50:15.25\00:50:17.52
and his first day
of kindergarten going
00:50:17.55\00:50:19.85
to the Seventh-day Adventist
School our children go.
00:50:19.88\00:50:23.62
The principal called me.
00:50:23.65\00:50:25.41
"What's going
on?" I wasn't even new.
00:50:25.45\00:50:27.16
She's like, "I
can't handle Darien,
00:50:27.19\00:50:29.20
like he's out of control
00:50:29.24\00:50:30.54
like all I'm doing is
disciplining him all day.
00:50:30.57\00:50:33.03
He's hurting the
other kids, he's disruptive,
00:50:33.06\00:50:35.43
he won't let us
pray, he won't let us sing,
00:50:35.46\00:50:38.08
like I've never seen him
act like this ever before."
00:50:38.11\00:50:40.99
And we're like, "Oh."
00:50:41.02\00:50:42.18
And he had
pre-school the year before
00:50:42.21\00:50:44.12
and they had assured me that
he was ready for kindergarten.
00:50:44.15\00:50:48.62
So, anyway it kind of just
progressed the bad behavior,
00:50:48.65\00:50:52.63
we made a decision to
take him out of the school
00:50:52.66\00:50:54.89
early on and put
him in a public school
00:50:54.92\00:50:56.93
where he'd be in a classroom
with his peers rather than,
00:50:56.96\00:51:00.15
big class room with,
like a multi-grade classroom
00:51:00.18\00:51:04.71
and then yeah, that
turned into a disaster too.
00:51:04.74\00:51:08.35
So, wow, they were all of the-
his whole personality changed
00:51:08.38\00:51:13.35
and I know you have
the rest of the story
00:51:13.38\00:51:16.23
where you're gonna tell
00:51:16.26\00:51:17.86
how the Lord just intervened
and brought everything,
00:51:17.89\00:51:22.21
brought him back because
this-- where he is right now
00:51:22.24\00:51:27.27
in the story is
super, super concerning.
00:51:27.30\00:51:32.04
Yeah.
00:51:32.07\00:51:33.10
And we know the
power of the enemy
00:51:33.13\00:51:35.53
but greater is he, it's in
us than he that's in the world.
00:51:35.56\00:51:40.55
So there might be some people
00:51:40.58\00:51:42.52
that want to get
in touch with you.
00:51:42.55\00:51:44.76
Watch, here is the address
00:51:44.79\00:51:46.88
where you can get Wendy
to come and share her story.
00:51:46.91\00:51:49.74
If you'd like to contact Wendy,
00:51:52.94\00:51:55.00
then you can
write to Wendy Gareau,
00:51:55.03\00:51:57.20
RR1 Red Deer,
Alberta Canada, T4N 5E1.
00:51:57.23\00:52:03.32
That's Wendy
Gareau, RR1 Red Deer,
00:52:03.35\00:52:07.32
Alberta Canada, T4N 5E1.
00:52:07.35\00:52:11.49
You can call (403) 597-8009.
00:52:11.52\00:52:16.15
That's (403)
597-8009 or you can email her
00:52:16.18\00:52:22.20
at wendygareau@gmail.com.
00:52:22.23\00:52:25.26
That's wendygareau@gmail.com.
00:52:25.29\00:52:30.73
Contact her today.
00:52:30.76\00:52:32.56