Participants: Danny Shelton (Host), Dean C. Hickman, John D. Rowsey, Neil B. Uhrig
Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY015012A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my words 00:27 Let my word 00:29 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:39 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:50 Mending broken people 01:07 Hello and welcome to another 3ABN Today program. 01:10 Thank you for joining us as you do each and every day. 01:13 I want you to know that Jesus loves you, 01:14 He died for you. 01:16 He made a plan of salvation for you 01:17 and He's coming back very soon in the clouds of glory. 01:21 I'm excited about ministry, 01:22 I love and support all of those who are out into ministry 01:26 and today we have some special guests 01:28 and it's a group 01:29 and they're called The Guardians 01:30 and we're so glad that you guys are here. 01:32 Start with Dean. Thank you, Danny. 01:34 Dean Hickman, where are you from? 01:35 I'm from West Virginia originally. 01:37 I grew up in Clarksburg, West Virginia, 01:40 and then moved to Portsmouth, Ohio, 01:41 to sing with The Golden Keys Quartet. 01:43 Jim Hill who wrote "What a day that will be. 01:45 He was in that group and I took his place. 01:47 And what a great gentleman he is, he's still living, 01:49 he's 84 years old. 01:51 84 years old. 01:52 And still sings his song alive. 01:53 He comes with us every now and then. 01:54 And where are you based now? 01:55 Columbus, Ohio. Columbus, Ohio. 01:57 We've had this group together for 26 years, over 26 years. 02:01 That's amazing. 02:02 Now I go to Columbus once a year at least, 02:05 they have the AQHA Congress, Quarter Horse Congress, 02:08 you know, there's a big huge horse show up there. 02:11 I usually go up there and spend just a few days 02:13 'cause I enjoy horses over there. 02:15 Right. All right. 02:16 Sitting next to you of course is John, John Rowsey. 02:19 John, now you've been with the group how long? 02:21 Going on 3 years. Three years. 02:23 Yes, July will be my 3 year anniversary. 02:26 All right. Well, there's gonna be some great stories. 02:28 I'm the newbie. 02:29 Yeah, we're gonna get back 02:31 and find out a little about you all and your background 02:33 and gospel music and all of that. 02:36 And of course down here we've got Neil Uhrig, right? 02:39 Did I get it right? You got it right. 02:41 All right. Neil, and where are you from? 02:43 I'm from Chillicothe, Ohio, 02:44 about 45 miles south of Columbus. 02:46 Okay. All right, how long have you been with the group? 02:49 Since its inception, 26 years, going on 27 ago. 02:52 Wow, is that right? Mm-hmm. 02:54 So you've been with through all. 02:55 Now was your dad a member of this too? 02:58 Maybe still he is? 02:59 He well, he considers himself still a Guardian. 03:01 Absolutely. I agree with that. 03:03 Once you are, you are there, right? 03:05 Right. That's it, perpetually. 03:07 When we added John, he talked about, 03:09 well, he really helps, doesn't he? 03:11 So even though he's not out on the road. 03:13 I love it, absolutely, absolutely. 03:15 You know, the amazing thing, Danny, 03:17 in 26 years we had two gentlemen 03:19 that died with us, 03:20 but we've only have one personnel change in 26 years. 03:24 Gentleman retired and John took his place, 03:26 so who could talk about that? 03:28 And one personnel change, wow. 03:30 I know, that is amazing and I love your music. 03:33 I actually found out about The Guardians 03:35 from Lari Goss and Lari Goss, 03:38 our viewers know Lari, they're familiar with him 03:40 and some of the recent projects that we did, 03:43 they're also aware of his passing. 03:45 But Lari used to talk to me about this one group 03:49 and at least once a week, 03:51 "Danny, you got to get The Guardians, 03:53 you just got-- you got to meet these guys, 03:55 you got to hear their music, I've been working with them. 03:57 I absolutely love them." 03:58 And then he would call me a week or two later. 04:01 "Did you call them, yeah?" 04:02 I'd say, well, you didn't even give me their info, Lari. 04:05 "Oh, I didn't. 04:06 Well, I have Carolyn, I'll have Carolyn 04:08 send that to you. 04:09 You got to get them there now, I'm not being pushy. 04:12 You know, I wouldn't do this to you, 04:14 I'm not pushy but you got to meet these guys." 04:17 So honestly Lari's worked 04:19 with incredible musicians and artists 04:22 around the world as you know. 04:23 But I can say this with my hand up, 04:25 he never promoted anybody like he promoted you guys. 04:28 'Cause he said they're genuine. We're humbled. 04:31 And today we hate to say it 04:32 but that's kind of a fleeting commodity, 04:35 even in the industry of gospel music 04:37 and, you know, preachers and, 04:40 you know, I don't want to go and sound negative 04:42 but I'm just saying so when you meet people 04:44 of like spirits that are focused on their mission, 04:48 that's to represent the Lord Jesus Christ 04:50 to share Him in the marketplace. 04:53 Right. 04:54 Then we're like this 04:56 because that's really what we're all about. 04:58 Christians those of us following 04:59 the example of Lord Jesus Christ 05:01 and He said, go ye into all the world. 05:03 So some people preach, some teach, other sing. 05:06 And you guys been doing this a long time. 05:09 I want to talk a little more, 05:10 then we're gonna do maybe three or four songs, 05:12 see how much time we have. 05:14 Thank you. 05:15 But, Dean, I want to get a little bit 05:16 of your background now, 05:17 you know, where are you from, 05:18 what kind-- were you raised in a Christian home? 05:20 Oh, I was raised in a --home, 05:23 very conservative 05:24 and my dad was one of the greatest Christians 05:27 I've ever met in my life. Uh-huh. 05:29 Lived to be almost 98. Is that? Right. 05:31 He married my mom, he was 11 years older than her. 05:35 She lived to be 85 and he outlived her, 05:37 I mean, you never think that. Yeah. 05:40 So I was raised in a good Christian home, 05:41 loved the gospel music 05:43 and then moved to Portsmouth, Ohio, 05:44 in 1965 to sing with The Golden Keys Quartet. 05:48 And fell in love with the music 05:50 and then God has just opened up doors in my life, 05:53 it's unbelievable. 05:55 Have you always had a desire to be a Christian? 05:58 I have a song that John helped me write 06:02 that talked about as a child, I was going down this road, 06:05 I thought, you know, God's tugging on my heart, 06:07 I want to be a Christian, 06:09 but then I thought, well, you know what? 06:10 I need to go out and learn my way a little bit first. 06:12 And then, but He kept tugging. 06:14 Mm-hmm, all right. 06:15 And then I come back. Okay. 06:17 So but that song is just so it's like what about now, 06:21 what about right now, what about here. 06:24 Now you don't have to put this off 06:26 and it's the best life to live anyway. 06:29 Why wouldn't you live this life? 06:30 Absolutely, absolutely, beautiful. 06:32 So what do you do now? What is your work? 06:36 I went down on the state highway patrol 06:38 after The Golden Keys Quartet continued to sing with groups, 06:41 then after that I went down to Goodyear Atomic Corporation, 06:44 I was security director there and Congressman Dingell 06:47 and Senator John Glenn decided 06:50 that the nuclear weapons program in the country 06:52 was not being protected well enough. 06:55 So they set up this program where they want to go out 06:57 and have a performance testing program 07:00 and I just lucked into that program, Danny, 07:02 and started running that program. 07:03 You were blessed into it. Yeah, I was blessed. 07:04 Oh, yes, blessed into it, absolutely. 07:07 I mean, my life was not planned. 07:08 Whatever I did, I did for the system, never for me. 07:13 Whatever it was, 07:14 always displayed honesty, integrity and trust. 07:16 Okay. Never for yourself. 07:18 And so in the last 30 years, 07:21 we've been inspecting nuclear weapons facilities 07:22 and it's all performance based. 07:24 We actually take ex Seal team members, 07:26 special force members went and attack the facility, 07:28 try to steal the special nuclear weapons. 07:30 Oh, really? For the materials, yes. 07:31 You're serious, Dean? Yeah, it's serious stuff. 07:33 You're not like just looking on a camera decide, you know-- 07:35 No, no, no. Don't use your bullets. 07:37 It's all performance based. Really? 07:39 Yeah, it is. It's phenomenal. 07:41 So because I travel so much, 60-70% of my time for 30 years, 07:45 we could only sing on the weekends. 07:47 So then we got a manager in the last 3 years, 07:50 I mean, he's better than me. 07:52 So he's running the program mostly and I could back off 07:55 and so now we're fulltime ministry 07:58 into what my heart wants to do. 08:00 Yeah. What a neat story. 08:01 I hope you've written a book. Well, I haven't. 08:04 You haven't, you should, that'd be my suggestions. 08:06 Thank you. 08:07 Because, you know, we want to put all this together. 08:09 I mean, what a great story going from there. 08:11 You've done a number of these 08:13 contracts with the government, right? 08:14 Yes, 18 contracts with the government 08:17 in various things and we-- that's all we've ever bid on 08:21 and we never lost a one of them. 08:22 Again it's just God's blessings. 08:24 All right. 08:25 So I'm gonna do this with each of you. 08:27 We'll go down we're gonna have a song in a moment. 08:28 What church do you, you have affiliate, 08:32 what church are you with today? 08:34 My wife and I were Wesleyans for while 08:36 and then we went to a Nazarene church for a while, 08:38 a minister come in there and took them from 300 to 30. 08:41 And I told my wife, I said, we got to get back there 08:43 and help them get their church build. 08:45 So we went back and March 1st, our group's gonna be there 08:49 for the opening of that church. 08:50 So we raised and made into, and overnight utmost, 08:55 and we built the church so we want to dedicate it, 08:59 our opening service March 1. 09:00 Oh, that's wonderful. Yeah. 09:01 Great. Absolutely. 09:03 What we want to do we're gonna ask 09:05 you guys to sing a song for us 09:07 and they've written a number of songs 09:09 but I think the very first one, you're all gonna know this song 09:12 and I know I love it and it's-- 09:14 you know, you can talk about 09:15 some of the greatest songs ever written, 09:17 "Amazing grace" but the song 09:19 that they're about to sing "The Lord's Prayer" 09:21 I'm gonna have to put in that list too. 09:22 I mean, what a incredible song "The Lord's Prayer" 09:26 and then after that we're gonna actually 09:28 do a few more songs. 09:30 But I appreciate once again 09:31 The Guardians coming here from Ohio 09:33 and their music and the arrangements 09:36 that you're gonna hear are by the legendary Lari Goss, 09:40 absolutely incredible. 09:41 So I've had an advantage, I've got to hear some of these 09:44 but I know you're gonna be blessed 09:45 as they sing to us now "The Lord's Prayer." 10:02 Our Father 10:07 who art 10:10 in heaven 10:18 Hallowed be 10:25 thy Name 10:35 Thy kingdom come 10:42 Thy will be done in earth 10:50 as it is 10:54 in heaven 11:00 Give us this day 11:05 our daily bread 11:10 And forgive us our debts 11:16 As we forgive our debtors 11:21 As we forgive our debtors 11:25 And lead us not into temptation 11:31 But deliver us from evil 11:37 For thine is the kingdom 11:43 And the power, 11:47 and the glory 11:50 Forever and ever 11:58 Amen 12:05 Amen Amen 12:12 Amen 12:15 Amen... 12:19 Amen... 12:23 Amen... 12:29 Amen... 12:40 Beautiful. The Lord's Prayer. 12:42 This is The Guardians, I've a CD here. 12:45 We'll be talking about it a little bit later. 12:47 "Let my Heart Sing." 12:49 And I don't' know about yours 12:50 but mine singing right now when we think about that, 12:53 there's a kingdom and the power and the glory forever. 12:56 And so we're gonna be blessed with some more music 12:59 so we want you to stick around a little bit, 13:00 we'll put up an address and all of that. 13:02 Well, guys, thank you so much. 13:04 Thank you, Danny. 13:05 Wow. What a great job. 13:06 Lari Goss is all over that thing too. 13:08 Yes. Yes, he is. 13:09 Music behind him, I mean, honestly he's just-- 13:13 his music amazes me and-- 13:15 No talent like him. 13:17 Yeah, you guys have known him for sometime 13:20 and you talked about his humility. 13:23 Yeah, I think Bill Gaither said 13:25 that his talent is only equaled by his humility 13:29 and I second that, wow. 13:32 He was the most humble man I'd ever met. 13:35 With all that greatness he had 13:36 and all I had ever hear him say is, 13:38 I ask God all time, why did he give me this? 13:41 You know why, why was it me? 13:42 Yeah. 13:44 And I said, Lari, how did you-- 13:45 'Cause he can handle it. 13:46 Yeah. 13:47 How did you learn to write all this orchestration? 13:49 I mean, you don't have to write 13:50 the horns in different key, how did you learn to do this? 13:52 He said, well, my brother, he said, he said, Ronnie said 13:54 after my elder brother died in a plane crash, 13:56 he said, we need somebody to write orchestration, 13:59 he said, well, Lari can do it. 14:01 Yeah, yeah. 14:02 And he got into it, you know. 14:03 Then he did it. Yeah. 14:05 Absolutely. 14:06 Well, we want to go over to John. 14:07 John, we want to find out a little about you, 14:09 you got a great voice 14:11 and I can tell that you're not-- 14:12 you've been in 3 years 14:13 but you're not a stranger to gospel music, 14:15 that's for sure. 14:16 I got a feeling you've been singing most of your life, 14:18 is that right? 14:19 Oh, I loved it since as early as I can remember. 14:21 I was a southern gospel music fan 14:23 and grew up on the music of the Happy Goodman's 14:25 and The Rainbows and The Statesmen and all, 14:28 all of the groups from the day, 14:30 I just loved every bit of it. 14:32 And I started to sing with my family 14:34 and that turned into a group that started 14:36 after I got out of high school called New Journey 14:39 and I traveled with them until I went with Karen Peck 14:42 and New River and... Did you? 14:43 In 1999 stayed till 2003 14:46 and came off the road to work in my church 14:49 and help build the music program there. 14:51 All right. What kind of church you go to? 14:53 I go to Christ Temple in Huntington, West Virginia. 14:55 Okay. 14:56 It's a nondenominational church 14:57 where my pastor I've known since I was 15. 15:00 Okay. 15:01 Now he was a radio disc jockey 15:02 in his early days in southern gospel music. 15:05 And the Lord called him to preach 15:07 and the next thing, you know, 15:09 he is the pastor of the church that had been 15:12 originally pastored by a man for 40 years almost. 15:15 And that church grew immediately 15:18 under my pastor Nell's leadership 15:22 from about 60-70 people to about 2,500. 15:26 Wow. So God has really blessed. 15:28 Yeah, absolutely. 15:29 And I love it how these guys comment, 15:31 instead of just talking about themselves, 15:32 I ask them about their selves 15:33 and both of them have gone to their churches, 15:36 notice that about how they're grown and all of that. 15:39 And so now your music, your family, 15:42 you said did they all sing, your parents-- 15:44 Well, yes, my grandmother 15:46 and my aunt had a trio with another lady in our church 15:49 when I was growing up. 15:51 And she passed away 15:52 and when she, just before she passed away, 15:55 she said, you need to take John and keep singing. 15:59 And, you know, I was 11 years old 16:02 and but I could hear parts and so we just started that way 16:06 and our church would invite us here and there 16:08 and one thing led to another 16:10 and the Lord just opened doors 16:11 and we kept walking through 16:13 and I mean, I fell in love with the music. 16:17 All right. Now you play instruments? 16:19 I play piano, play keyboards 16:21 and sometimes when we're out live, you know, 16:23 we always try to bring things down to a ministry time 16:28 at least at the end and that is the time 16:31 when it just becomes intimate with the congregation. 16:34 Sure, absolutely. 16:36 Tell me a little bit about-- I know you're a songwriter, 16:38 maybe the rest of you guys write too some 16:40 but I think he's probably your main songwriter. 16:42 He's the writer. 16:43 He's the writer, Neil. This is the guy, right. 16:45 He's the writer, yes. 16:46 I'm always I'm intrigued by the minds of writers, 16:49 you know, where they come from 'cause people, 16:51 I'm not prolific writer like some of you all, 16:53 but I've written songs over the years and people would say, 16:55 where did that come from? 16:57 I know people who've sang for most all their life 16:59 but they say I can't write, 17:01 I don't know how to put that together 17:03 and I don't know how to explain that. 17:05 What happens to you? Where do you-- 17:08 what makes you tick when it comes to writing? 17:09 And people ask me-- 17:11 You'd sit around and get up the morning say, 17:12 I think I'll write a song today. 17:13 I wish it was like that 17:15 and it's not really like that for me. 17:16 People ask me, you know, 17:17 how do you come up with these ideas? 17:19 And I'll say, you know, there's nothing else up there, 17:21 so I pretty much can just concentrate on the songs 17:25 but I'll get something from something 17:27 that my pastor will say in a message. 17:29 I'll hear somebody say something 17:31 just in casual everyday, 17:33 you know, conversation that will strike me 17:35 and I'll, maybe not necessarily 17:37 just the phrase they said 17:39 but it'll turn my mind to something else 17:40 and next thing, you know, 17:42 there's a song that is birth out of just 17:45 some little thing you hear. 17:46 You know, I don't write a lot of Bible story songs, 17:49 you know, so many people are great at rewriting 17:52 the three Hebrew children and I just does 17:54 but I more find myself writing things about everyday life 17:59 and how God works in everyday life 18:01 because that's what we're all living right now 18:03 is everyday life. 18:04 Absolutely. 18:05 And so I see God work so often 18:07 and I just think it's worse to talk it about in a song. 18:11 So do you write the music first or the words 18:14 or do you write them together? 18:15 For me it's almost always together. 18:17 It's very seldom. 18:19 Now Dean and I wrote a song together 18:20 on the new project that he was talking about 18:24 a little bit earlier called what about now, 18:26 and he really had talked about 18:29 what he-- how he felt like the Lord dealt with him, 18:31 you know, growing up 18:32 and the way his mind was working 18:34 and he kind of laid out all of that story 18:37 and started putting, you know, phrases and music together 18:41 with his story and next thing we know we had a song, 18:45 normally always it's music and lyric together. 18:49 Now do your songs in general 18:51 when you're writing them yourself, do they come quickly 18:53 or is it some-- you maybe write a little bit, 18:55 then a week or two later, you come back and month later 18:58 you finish it or how's that? 18:59 I find myself doing it that way most all the time. 19:02 It's very seldom over all the years I've written music 19:05 where I sat down and it was just coming like that for me 19:08 and I was just writing as fast as I could go. 19:11 Now it's a little different when I do co-writes, 19:14 we're pretty much in a room 19:15 for 6 or 7 hours in a day and we come out with a song 19:18 but you don't sit down and just start writing, 19:21 Now, so that'll help you finish it. 19:22 That's right. That's right. 19:26 So do you write for publishing companies? 19:28 Yes, I write for Daywind in Nashville. 19:30 And I've written for just about everybody 19:33 in southern gospel music. 19:34 The Lord has opened a lot of doors 19:36 and almost everybody in southern gospel music 19:38 has recorded a song of mine. 19:39 Oh, that's great. 19:40 And I'm thankful for that. 19:41 Wonderful. 19:42 You ever hear of Rick Shelton down there? 19:44 I am very much acquainted with Rick, 19:46 he's the gentleman who purchase all my songs. 19:49 He's my publisher. 19:50 Okay. Well, he's your buddy then? 19:51 He is my buddy, I love Rick with all my heart. 19:53 Yeah, absolutely. 19:55 Well, he's my nephew as you may have figured that out. 19:57 I finally figured out that. 19:58 But he loves what he's doing. 20:01 A quick story about Rick that you can go back 20:03 and you can tell him I said it. 20:06 But when he was little, he loved music 20:10 but when he was young for some reason 20:11 I didn't think he'd ever carry tune, 20:13 he actually sings pretty well. 20:14 I don't know if you ever heard him, 20:15 but Rick can sing well but he loved gospel music 20:19 so my wife Kay who was later killed in automobile accident 20:24 and my brother Tommy, 20:26 we had a trio called the Shelton trio 20:28 in the late '60s and early '70s and we sang around. 20:32 Rick would go, they were introduce to, 20:35 you know, he was 3 or 4 or 5 years old, 20:37 Shelton trio, he just walk up, serious, 20:40 just made me grab my mike 20:42 and just stand there ready to sing 20:43 and like, do I get to sing? 'Cause we get ready to leave, 20:47 go get on the bus, he'd get the driver's seat, 20:50 5 years old, went to so later, 20:53 years later he's getting little older, 20:55 any groups come through Southern Illinois, 20:58 we called him a diesel sniffer 'cause he chased all those, 21:01 any gospel music he-- 21:03 dad, I want to go, can somebody take me? 21:05 Uncle Danny. 21:06 Somebody take him to hear these gospel groups. 21:08 Soon as they got to car and I said his dream is 21:12 to be around gospel music, 21:14 is to know these artists and talk to them. 21:16 now go up 20 years later, I went down 21:20 to the Quartet Convention a year or so ago, 21:22 he said, I want to introduce you around some of my folks, 21:25 we were walking down the hallways, 21:26 all the groups that he used to go try to, 21:29 hey, can I get a picture all of them would say, 21:31 hey, Rick, we need to talk to you, 21:33 we got the song idea, 21:34 have you got something for us? 21:36 Now he's an influencer. 21:37 And all of these people that he used to watch 21:40 are now calling him saying, hey, we need to get together. 21:44 That's great. 21:45 So I said, you know, very few people Dean in life 21:48 accomplish what their dreams are when they are a kid. 21:50 Some will far exceed them, some won't ever get there 21:54 but very few just from time you're 6, 7, 8, 10 years old 21:57 gonna end up, 21:58 he's exactly where he would have dreamed, 22:01 if you would say when he's 10, what do you want to be? 22:03 That's what he would, he'd be right there so, 22:05 kind of a neat story and-- 22:07 That sounds like a neat family. 22:09 Well, God has blessed, 22:10 there're some of us like all of us, 22:12 you know, my dad used to say, 22:14 son, you're a good boy but you're not quite all there 22:17 but don't worry about it. 22:18 He would introduce me by saying, this is my son Danny 22:20 and you can tell by looking at him 22:22 he's not all there 22:23 but he's a good kid, had a good heart. 22:24 And my dad would tell me, 22:26 he says, son he said, you need to go to Hollywood, 22:28 he'd say, the walk would really do you good. 22:31 There you go and you're outstanding 22:33 in the field somewhere, right? 22:35 Heard all those, go back to those. 22:37 Let's get back to some music here. 22:39 "Somebody Prays", who wrote that song? 22:41 I did. 22:42 You wrote this song? Okay, 22:43 so we're gonna ask you guys, we're gonna ask The Guardians, 22:45 if you'll get ready and they're gonna do another song 22:47 "Somebody Prays." 22:48 Once again, we'll put up an address in a bit 22:52 and hopefully you'll be able to get it. 22:53 We'll tell you how to get your CDs. 22:55 Now they not only have this one, 22:56 they have numerous, maybe 15, 22:58 we'll ask them in a little bit 23:00 but they've got a number of products 23:02 and that we'll put up an address, 23:04 a website, where you'll be able to contact them 23:06 because I know you're gonna want this music. 23:08 Absolutely uplifting, spiritually draws you closer 23:12 to the Lord and how could it be 23:14 arranged any better than to have Lari Goss. 23:16 So here's a beautiful song, "Somebody Prays." 23:33 A force lies within our hands 23:38 of power not known to man 23:43 It opens the door to all that's in store 23:48 For those who obey 23:53 It's where miracles wait for you 23:59 And mercy comes shining through 24:04 Just see what the Lord can do 24:09 When somebody prays 24:15 Somebody prays and haven pays attention 24:25 Somebody prays and angels listen in 24:35 In Heaven it's written down 24:41 God's heart can hear the sound 24:46 And His mighty power abounds 24:51 When somebody prays 24:56 Oh, I've seen it time and again 25:01 A soul's reached its very end 25:06 The pressures of life 25:09 All the burdens and strife just don't go away 25:17 Oh, but strength comes down from above 25:22 And touches that hurting one 25:27 And faith rides on wings of love 25:32 When somebody prays 25:38 Somebody prays and haven pays attention 25:49 Somebody prays and angels listen in 25:58 Oh, in Heaven it's written down 26:04 God's heart can hear the sound 26:09 And His mighty power abounds 26:14 When somebody prays 26:20 I just steal away 26:25 I just steal away 26:30 It's where miracles wait for you 26:35 And mercy comes shining through 26:41 Just see what the Lord can do 26:46 When somebody prays 26:51 Somebody prays... 26:56 Somebody prays... 27:09 Amen. That's a two hander. 27:11 Down here we say two hander, you got one hander, 27:13 sometimes a two hander. 27:15 Somebody Prays, what a beautiful song. 27:18 And I don't know about you 27:20 but I find myself falling in love with the music 27:22 of The Guardians. 27:23 And so again we'll put up an address in a little bit, 27:27 I know I keep saying that 27:28 but I want you to get your pencil and your paper ready 27:30 and because we're gonna hear a couple more songs 27:32 and then we'll give you the address. 27:34 And I'm gonna encourage you to contact them 27:37 and find out all the products that they have available 27:40 and I know this product, 27:42 I'm gonna try to get and talk about this one 27:44 because this one here, 27:45 this is not only these great songs and these guys 27:48 but Lari Goss is all over 27:49 so I got to have one of these myself 27:51 and you'll probably feel the same way. 27:54 Thanks again. Beautiful song. 27:55 John, you wrote that, I want to say that again, 27:57 now you wrote that song, right? 27:58 Okay. 27:59 And the inspiration behind that one was? 28:02 Well, there had been a situation in my family 28:04 that for me just kind of looked impossible 28:07 and I thought, well, this is a dandy, you know, 28:10 everybody comes to those situations in their family 28:13 and I watched the Lord do something that 28:16 only He could do 28:17 and I knew it was because there were so many praying 28:21 and it touched me so much that it really 28:26 I guess hit home how much power there is in prayer. 28:29 And I just wanted to say when we pray, 28:33 sometimes we feel like that our hands are tied 28:36 but that's the most power we have. 28:38 When we call in the name of the Lord in faith 28:40 and belief what we're praying, 28:42 we know that He's gonna hear and He's gonna answer, 28:44 maybe it's not in the time that I'm looking for 28:47 and maybe it's not exactly the way, 28:49 but His ways are higher than my ways. 28:51 And I've come to find out, if I put my trust in Him 28:54 and just pray for His will, 28:56 everything's gonna, it's gonna happen His way. 28:58 The Matthew 28:18 says, "All power He's given me." 29:03 Yes. He's establishing who He is. 29:06 That's right. All power is given to me. 29:07 So if you're gonna pray, who you're gonna pray to? 29:09 I want to pray to God that's got all the power, 29:13 who can answer prayers in a better way than we asked. 29:16 Right. 29:17 That's the beauty of it, you say 29:18 it doesn't always end the way we want it to, 29:21 but it's for the best. 29:23 For His honor and for His glory. 29:25 Well, Neil, we're gonna come down over here to you, 29:27 so usually we put the guy that, 29:29 you know, that talks most down that line, 29:30 I don't know if this is true or not, 29:32 you may be the talker of the group 29:34 and but you've been with them from the beginning, right? 29:37 Yes, I have, since we started. 29:38 And you sing the baritone, right? 29:40 Yes. 29:41 Okay, now I forgot to say that, you're the tenor of course. 29:44 And you're doing the lead, 29:45 and but you've got a range, you could not think, 29:48 John, you can sing probably a few parts 29:51 or whatever they need, 29:52 I got a feeling he could jumping to do it, 29:54 you may be the same way. 29:55 Well, not as high as him, 29:57 even on that song he was talking about, 29:59 what about now? 30:00 He even goes over the tenor on some of that, 30:02 he does it quite right. 30:03 That's not fair, that's not fair. 30:05 We have to talk about that later. 30:08 We don't like guys to show ourselves like that, 30:10 you know, no, 30:11 but you folks have a great range, 30:13 mine's about this big so I always like, 30:15 I appreciate others who's got a great range. 30:18 But you've been singing for long time, 30:20 tell me a little bit about your background, 30:21 how were you, what kind of home you were raised in? 30:24 Church home, mom and dad Christians, 30:27 grandparents Christians, 30:28 in fact as early as I can remember back, 30:32 my grandmother started chasing me 30:34 and telling me how to get saved. 30:36 That was a priority in our life 30:38 and I remember when I hit 10 years old, 30:42 she told me that now is the time. 30:44 And that's when I met the Lord 30:45 and it's because of my grandmother so... 30:47 Isn't that amazing? 30:48 And I've grown up in church, attended church all my life. 30:52 Lot of grandmothers don't try that 30:53 but if it works, maybe we ought to think about chasing around 30:56 so now is the time. 30:58 So what kind of church were you raised in? 31:00 Church of Christ in Christian Union, 31:02 relatively new denomination. 31:04 Same doctrine as Nazarene as Dean said. 31:07 I see, okay. Great. 31:09 So now your grandmother encourages you 31:12 but the time you get 15, 16, 17, 18, 31:15 sometimes those ideas, you have second thoughts, 31:17 did you ever have second thoughts or say, 31:20 you know, I think I want to go out 31:21 and try different direction 31:22 or have you always just wanted to serve the Lord? 31:24 Devil never leaves you alone. 31:27 He's always chasing you, 31:29 but I can't say that I ever thought about anything else 31:32 because I still had good, good help at home 31:37 with my parents and my grandparents 31:39 and my family and then ended up 31:40 they found me a girlfriend who was a Christian. 31:42 Okay, there you go. 31:43 And that made a lot easier to stay there, 31:45 I won't say I haven't had battles 31:47 and the devil hadn't worked hard, 31:48 I went to college and, but God is faithful 31:54 and you just need to keep your eyes on Him 31:56 and He'll take care of you. 31:57 Absolutely. 31:58 What line of work, have you always been in music 32:00 or do you do other... to support your music? 32:03 Actually for 35 years I worked in school system 32:07 and I retired almost 10 years ago, 32:10 school administrator. 32:11 You weren't an English teacher, were you by chance? 32:13 No, I hated English. They make me nervous. 32:17 I hated English. 32:18 So anyway 10 years ago 32:22 when I retired from school superintendent 32:24 in public schools in Southern Ohio, 32:27 I went to work for Dean. 32:29 He had a job there that my skills could handle 32:32 and I've been working for him ever since. 32:35 You get him breaking in 32:36 and trying to break into government-- 32:41 so we can do that. 32:43 He's a professional administrator. 32:45 Oh, I see, okay. Yeah. 32:46 So you're just administrating that, 32:48 but knowing all the stuff and doing all the work. 32:50 That's good. 32:51 I think I like your job better. 32:53 Yeah, I do too, feel safer. 32:55 Yeah, it's little feel safer, that job for sure. 32:58 So gospel music is just your family saying? 33:02 My dad had a family group, 33:03 in fact years ago they called it 33:06 the Uhrig Brothers Quintet, 33:08 it was not a quartet, there were five of them. 33:10 Him and his two brothers 33:11 and they had two first cousins that sang. 33:13 And when I was 17 in the summer, 33:20 the baritone decided he wanted to retire, 33:21 start traveling. 33:23 I never really had sung that much in church at all 33:27 other than in choirs but my dad came to me and said, 33:29 hey, why don't you try singing the baritone? 33:32 I could harmonize. 33:34 And I said-- he said just come for a part time 33:36 till I find someone. 33:38 I did that for almost 37 years, 33:41 he was still finding someone to fill the position. 33:44 37 years, okay. 33:45 And then it kind of wound down to where 33:48 we'd lost piano players, 33:50 couldn't find someone like John Rowsey to play the piano. 33:53 And it looked like we were gonna fold up 33:55 and Dean had sung with us 3 years, 34:00 and started what '79 or '78? 34:02 '79, yeah. 34:03 And filled in as tenor for that period of time. 34:06 So we were about ready to fold up 34:07 and we had this great date mission we'd like to go 34:10 and my dad said why don't we call Dean 34:12 and see if he'd fill in with us and we'd get a piano player 34:15 when we go out and do that date. 34:17 And Dean wasn't singing at the time 34:19 and we went, right about 27 years ago? 34:22 Right. 34:23 And we took that date and kind of liked it, 34:26 so let's sing a couple more times. 34:28 And eventually in short pretty time 34:31 we formed this group. 34:32 Mm-hmm. 34:33 Well, I love the fact that you said 34:35 there'd been so few changes 34:37 and couple of deaths and maybe change one time 34:40 that tells you about you guys and your mission, 34:43 it hasn't changed, you haven't-- you know, 34:45 you're still there, you're still doing 34:46 what God's called you to do. 34:48 Dean and I have never had an argument 34:50 in all these years. 34:51 Yeah. Wow, that's amazing. 34:52 What I loved about it when I came with the group was, 34:55 you know, they've been friends for all these years and, 34:58 you know, a lot of times 34:59 when you enter into a situation like that, 35:02 you find out the behind the scenes 35:04 is not really as good as what you see on the exterior. 35:08 But behind the scenes was even better 35:10 than the exterior, 35:11 that was that heart after the Lord and the mission was 35:14 how can we reach somebody with this gospel message 35:17 and what are we gonna do to change a life 35:20 because God has blessed us. 35:21 How can we bless somebody else 35:23 and that really spoke volumes to me. 35:25 I've been blessed, you know, with Karen Peck and New River, 35:28 great, just phenomenal people. 35:30 And when you have a standard like that, 35:33 you just want to always measure up to that standard 35:36 and these guys, wow, they really did it, 35:38 it's been blessing for the last 3 years almost. 35:42 We're gonna get you do another song, 35:43 may have time for two if you don't mind, 35:45 we'll work on that 35:46 but this one's "You'll Never Walk Alone", 35:49 now is that the one that we know from way back 35:52 or is this a new version of it or? 35:54 That song was written in 1945, 35:56 the year I was born, Lari Goss was born that year 35:59 and I've always loved that song. 36:01 And recorded it another times 36:03 and so when Lari was doing that, 36:05 we said, Lari, can you do us arrangement 36:07 on You'll Never Walk Alone? 36:09 So he called us, he said, 36:10 you guys like, would you mind starting in a minor key? 36:13 I don't know we'll hear it. 36:15 So then he put the other courses in there, 36:18 made it really a wonderful song. 36:21 And his-- the orchestration on this is unbelievable. 36:24 He's genius. Yeah. 36:26 Well, you guys get ready to sing for us 36:28 and I can't wait to hear this 36:29 because I've not heard this one, 36:31 and when Lari Goss is asking you, 36:33 I'm used to him doing that, 36:34 do you mind if we do this or that, 36:36 I've learned to say, well, let's hear it 36:37 'cause I know it's gonna be good. 36:39 And but again the arrangements, but a beautiful song I'm sure, 36:42 many of you'll know it. 36:44 "You'll Never Walk Alone." 37:13 When you walk through a storm 37:21 Hold your head up high 37:28 And don't be afraid of the dark 37:41 At the end of the storm 37:48 There's a golden sky 37:54 And the sweet silver song 38:01 Of a lark 38:08 Walk on through the wind 38:15 Walk on through the rain 38:20 Though your dreams be tossed 38:28 And blown 38:34 Walk on 38:38 Walk on with hope in your heart 38:47 And you'll never walk alone 39:01 You'll never walk alone 39:15 Till the storm passes over 39:21 Till the thunder sounds no more 39:27 Till the clouds roll forever 39:32 From the sky 39:38 Walk on 39:40 Walk on with hope in your heart 39:49 And you'll never walk alone 40:02 You'll never walk alone 40:15 You'll never walk alone 40:31 Just hold 40:34 To God's unchanging hand 40:40 Hold to God's unchanging hand 40:49 And you'll never ever 40:56 Walk alone 41:05 Never walk alone 41:24 If you'd like to know how you can get the CD 41:26 "Let My Heart Sing" or if you'd like to contact them, 41:30 then you can write to The Guardians, 41:32 6527 Blain Highway, Chillicothe, Ohio, 45601. 41:38 That's The Guardians, 6527 Blain Highway, 41:43 Chillicothe, Ohio, 45601. 41:46 You can call 614-716-8089. 41:50 That's 614-716-8089. 41:54 You can also visit their webpage for CDs, 41:57 tour schedules and more at theguardiansmusic.com. 42:02 That's theguardiansmusic.com. 42:11 Amen. 42:12 You know, I've heard that song 42:14 practically all my life and I did not expect that, 42:17 I did not expect, what did you call that? 42:19 Lari calls those as... 42:20 Turning the corner. Turning the corner. 42:22 I did not expect him to turn those corners like that 42:26 and I mean, I don't even have words, it's fabulous. 42:29 I loved it. Thank you. 42:30 I'm blessed, I get chill bumps all over me 42:34 not only the way you guys sing it 42:35 but how you put that together, 42:37 it's just literally is so inspiring. 42:40 I mean that is beautiful, I love that. 42:42 Well, you'll never walk alone. 42:44 Tell me a quick story, Neil? 42:46 Well, we're here because of Lari Goss 42:49 who made the arrangement 42:50 and a humorous story about him is 42:53 he first found out what Dean did for living 42:57 and he was so intrigued about wanting to know 43:00 the story behind all that, 43:01 he even a second or third time we meet, 43:03 he started getting Dean aside and 43:05 trying to fill in more things and he said, 43:07 he asked Dean, he said, is it possible, 43:10 he said, I would really like for you if you could 43:13 to get me a scud missile. 43:14 Says that, can you get me a scud missile? 43:17 Dean says, well, I don't know. What do you suppose to do? 43:19 I'd like to have one of those things. 43:21 When I'm working with some of these groups 43:22 that can't sing, 43:23 he said, I'd like to fire a scud missile at them and-- 43:27 But we said we wouldn't get him one till we were finished. 43:29 Yeah. 43:30 So second trip back down there, 43:34 it was that song there I believe, 43:36 you know, things are kind of rough 43:37 when you're first learning songs. 43:39 And you're just kind of singing around the piano with Lari 43:42 and he was playing along and we were trying to go 43:44 and I kind of got out into the woods a little bit 43:47 and he looked over me, he says, where is that scud missile? 43:49 No. 43:53 That was Lari. 43:55 That we call that getting out on a limb. 43:57 Sometimes I get out on a limb, 43:59 I've heard musicians or singers who get out on limb, 44:01 you can't get back. 44:02 It's nice to be able to go out on that bass player, 44:05 we used to have a bass player, but 44:07 he didn't play with our group but one we'd go 44:09 and I'd say that he'd run that thing 44:11 and he get way out on a limb 44:12 but he couldn't get back, 44:14 but it was great going out there 44:16 so I know what you mean, but you guys got back, 44:19 you got back so I know. 44:20 Of course Lari if he meant that, he wouldn't have said it, 44:23 that's probably when he's quiet, 44:24 when I have to wonder what he's thinking about me. 44:27 But he was always encouraging, wasn't he? 44:29 Always. 44:30 He literally encouraged you and got the best out of you. 44:33 You never heard anything 44:34 but encouragement from him, yeah. 44:35 Yeah, absolutely loved him. 44:37 Well, it's been a privilege having you guys here today 44:40 and getting to know you and for our folks at home 44:43 getting to know you a little bit. 44:44 And I want to make sure that I put you on the spot, 44:47 you know, on international television, 44:48 surely you'll come back. 44:49 This won't be the last time, right? 44:51 If you have us, Danny, we would love it. 44:53 We stand in awe at 3ABN 44:55 and wow, what's been done here 44:58 and it's going on around the world, 45:01 touching hearts, it's just unbelievable. 45:04 There's no doubt it's God at work. 45:06 No doubt. Wow. 45:07 And that's what it should be 45:08 and that's what we feel about you guys, 45:10 so we have that in common because you realized 45:13 that we can do nothing ourselves 45:15 but we can accomplish all things through Christ Jesus. 45:19 Amen. Absolutely. 45:20 We're gonna have you guys do another song, 45:21 it's your last song for today, 45:23 "Greatest of all Miracles." 45:24 Now tell me about this song. 45:26 Yeah, that song was written probably close to 40 years 45:29 by Squire Parsons and it speaks to me, 45:33 you know, no matter what Jesus did on earth, 45:36 He did some great miracles but how can you take a black heart 45:40 and turn it white as snow, 45:42 you know, save that soul from hell, 45:46 put them on the right path, 45:47 you know, that's the greatest miracle we could ever imagine. 45:50 And that song, it just spoke to me forever. 45:52 I recorded it probably 30 years ago 45:56 and then when we were recording anniversary CD with us, 45:58 I said, gentlemen, I would like to get back 46:00 and just record that again. Wow. 46:02 I'm glad you did, I heard it and I love it 46:03 and folks are going to if you guys get ready right now. 46:06 But on this latest project The Guardians 46:08 "Let My Heart Sing", 46:09 there is number of songs here. 46:11 "My hope is in the Lord, Be still and know, 46:13 It ain't gonna worry me long," 46:15 I heard that one earlier. 46:16 "You'll never walk alone, Shoutin' sounds, 46:18 Somebody prays, Get out of the way," 46:21 I like that, Get out of-- 46:22 I've been told that before to get out of the way. 46:24 "Let my heart sing, Going to the Promised Land 46:27 and then, What about now." 46:29 So we want to encourage you, 46:32 we'll put the address up again 46:34 before we're through here in just a few moments 46:36 and encourage you to contact The Guardians 46:38 and just get to know them, 46:39 see what products they have available 46:41 and then share them with your friends and your enemies, 46:43 sharing with everybody, right? 46:45 So right now we're gonna be blessed as we hear 46:47 "Greatest of all Miracles." 47:11 I wasn't there 47:13 by the shores of Galilee 47:20 When Jesus touched 47:23 those blinded eyes and made them see 47:30 And though I did not see the empty tomb 47:35 that day, I still believe 47:40 For I know 47:42 what Jesus did for me 47:49 And I believe there is power 47:54 in the blood of the Lamb 47:58 And I believe there is healing 48:04 in the touch of His hand 48:11 But the greatest of all miracles 48:16 was when my Jesus saved me 48:21 Yes, I know 48:23 what Jesus did for me 48:30 I'm so thankful for the touch of my life. 48:34 Now I have seen 48:37 the lowest sin-sick soul 48:44 Find life anew and be made pure, 48:49 so pure and whole 48:54 Friend, I have felt Him break the chains of sin 49:00 He set my spirit free 49:03 And today I know 49:06 what Jesus did for me 49:13 And I believe there is power 49:18 in the blood of the Lamb 49:22 And I believe there is healing 49:28 in the touch of His hand 49:35 But the greatest of all miracles 49:40 was when my Jesus saved me 49:44 Yes, I know 49:47 what Jesus did for me 49:52 But the greatest of all miracles 49:59 was when my Jesus saved me 50:03 Yes, I know 50:06 what Jesus did for me 50:13 Yes, I know 50:15 what Jesus did for me 50:34 If you'd like to know how you can get the CD 50:36 "Let My Heart Sing" or if you'd like to contact them, 50:39 then you can write to The Guardians, 50:41 6527 Blain Highway, Chillicothe, Ohio, 45601. 50:47 That's The Guardians, 6527 Blain Highway, 50:52 Chillicothe, Ohio, 45601. 50:55 You can call 614 716-8089. 50:59 That's 614 716-8089. 51:03 You can also visit their webpage for CDs, 51:06 tour schedules and more at theguardiansmusic.com. 51:11 That's theguardiansmusic.com. |
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