I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and
welcome to 3ABN Today.
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My name is C.A. Murray
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and allow me once again
to thank you for sharing
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just a little of your
no doubt busy day with us.
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To thank you for
your love, your prayers,
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your support of 3ABN
because we've realized
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that we couldn't do
what we're called to do
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without your partnership.
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So we thank you from
the bottom of our hearts.
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We got a very, very,
very good show today.
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I'm excited for a
number of reasons.
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I'm excited because
of the subject matter.
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I'm excited because
mission stories always drew me
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and have since I
was a little child.
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And I'm excited
because of our guests.
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They are Dr.
Barry and Shelley Bacon.
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Good to have you both
here. Thank you so much.
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And we've had a
chance to a little bit
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and really thrilling story.
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A lot of good things happening,
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a lot of miracles from the Lord,
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the Lord had blessed them.
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But before we go to our music,
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I want to take just a moment.
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You're from where?
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Originally from Minnesota,
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but we live in Washington
State, north of Spokane.
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Small town Colville, Washington.
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Very good, Shelley,
from the northwest also?
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No, I'm all over and nowhere.
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My father was a
pastor and teacher.
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We moved around a lot.
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When did you said nowhere,
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is it the army
or-- the Lord's army.
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And you best said.
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How did you guys meet?
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We were in
academy back in Minnesota,
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Southern
Minnesota, Maplewood Academy.
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So we were about 16 years old
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and we liked
each other, friends.
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Well, it took
him a while to decide
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that I was more
then just a friend.
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Oh, I see. Not
the other way around.
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So from, basically
from high school days?
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We've been singing together
and ever since got married--
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Five years after
we met. That's right.
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So you were
married through college?
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Yes. Last year of college.
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Last year of
college we were married.
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And through
medical school. Oh, I see.
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Was medicine always something
you wanted to do, Barry?
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Since I was very young actually,
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yeah, probably when I
was about six years old,
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the idea was planted in my head
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and I explored
other possibilities,
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but medicine was
really what I was focused on.
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Was there
medicine in your family,
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someone else or something
just kind of settled on you?
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No, something that was sort
of talked about early in my life
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and I thought maybe this is
something I could commit too.
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And I think you're the first one
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to finish college
in your family also.
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I think so to, yeah.
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Where did you go to school?
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I went to--
After Maplewood Academy
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I went to Union
College, both of us did and then
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I got my medical school training
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in Loma Linda University.
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Loma Linda guy? Yeah.
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All right, praise the Lord.
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Praise the Lord. Yeah.
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And Shelley, what
did you study in college?
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Education and I
studied eliminatory education,
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but most of my
teaching career has been
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in junior academy
level which I really enjoy.
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Seems like a good match.
It's lasted for 40 plus years.
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So I guess it was a good match.
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So you both sing? Yes, we do.
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Oh, praise the Lord.
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Praise the Lord. Yeah.
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We have to get you back,
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you have to do
some singing sometimes.
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That will be
wonderful, thank you.
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But right now we're gonna talk
about-- really a great effort.
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You want a kind
of stick by for this
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because this is not
only medical missionary work,
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that's just a small spoonful
of what we're gonna talk about
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because we're gonna
about conflict resolution.
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We're gonna talk about stepping
in to what is basically a,
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a war zone and
trying to bring peace
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and bring the love of
Christ to that situation.
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So these two may look
like just teacher and doctor,
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but they are really
marines for the Lord.
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And you will
understand what I mean by that,
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as we sort of
unpackaged their story.
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But before we do that,
we got special music today
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and it is coming
from a great friend
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of this ministry Vonda Beerman.
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She's going to be
singing "Embrace the Cross."
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All right.
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I am crucified with Christ
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Therefore I no longer live
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Jesus Christ now lives in me
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I am crucified with Christ
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Therefore I no longer live
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It's Jesus
Christ who lives in me
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Embrace the cross
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Where Jesus suffered
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Though it will cost you
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All you claim as yours
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Your sacrifice will seem small
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Beside the treasure
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Eternity can't measure
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What Jesus has in store
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Embrace the love
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The cross requires
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Cling to the one
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Whose heart knew every pain
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Receive from Jesus
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Fountains of compassion
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For only He can fashion
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Your heart to move as His
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Oh, wondrous cross
our desires rest in you
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Oh, Lord Jesus
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Make us bolder
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To face with courage
the shame and disgrace
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You bore upon Your shoulder
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Embrace the life
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That comes from dying
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Come trace through the steps
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The Savior walked for you
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An empty tomb
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Concludes Golgotha's sorrow
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Endure then till tomorrow
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Your cross of suffering
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Embrace the cross
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Embrace the cross
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The cross of Jesus
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Amen. Thank you, Vonda.
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Very well done.
"Embrace the Cross."
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My guests are
Barry and Shelley Bacon.
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He a doctor, she a teacher.
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But that's not
why they are here.
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They are here
because God gave them
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a very special burden
and a very special mission.
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Now you been married for
a little while, children?
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Yes, we do. We
have four children.
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Four? Two boys and two girls.
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Two boys and two
girls, match sets as it were.
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Very, very good.
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Is your degree in medicine
in any particular specialty or?
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After I finished
medical school at Loma Linda
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I went to take a
residency in family medicine
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at Hinsdale
Hospital near Chicago.
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And from there we had a chance
to go Malawi for three years.
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So that was a
great experience too, 87.
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That where he got
the Africa mission bug.
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And that was my
next question, yeah.
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Did that sort of put
the bit in your mouth
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as it were four missions?
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Did it occur to
you that at sometime
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in your medical practice
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you're gonna spent some time
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serving outside
of the United States
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or you had your
pyramid settle down
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to sort of American
standard medical deal?
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No, early on in
my life I wanted to--
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I realized, I wanted to
do something to serve people
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who can never pay any back.
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And so for a portion of my life
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I wanted to curve our
time for those people, yeah.
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And that was based on
hearing mission stories back in,
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way back when I
was a young child.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Were you aware of
that sort of mission fever
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and did you have
that also, Shelley?
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I was aware of it.
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And I guess it
doesn't really sink in,
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what that really meant.
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And he never-- He mentioned
that he wanted to go overseas.
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He never mentioned
the rest of his life.
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He never said that part
and I'm not sure he knew
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that until he was there
and felt that great calling.
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And to be quite frank,
when I was there in Malawi,
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I learned to be
okay with the idea
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and I felt like we
could stay there longer
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but I didn't feel
called to be there.
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I want to raise my children
where they could want of Rome
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and places to go
and things like that.
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And we, you know, we couldn't
fulfill some of those important
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and also worthy dreams there.
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And I said if I die
there, do not bury me there,
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you must bring me back here.
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Anyway-- so, you know,
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we had a long term plan
for our children as well.
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But I think as time
went on and I experienced
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some of the short
term mission trips we did.
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My heart has
always been for service.
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I just didn't
have the same burden
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to serve overseas as Barry did.
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When we went Rwanda
in 2011 for four months,
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that changed and I
became very involved
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with some of the orphans
there at one of the orphanages
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and also some
other projects like,
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I was able to participate in it.
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And the next year I actually
went back on my own to Africa
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because I had promised
them I was coming back.
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And very simple, we
can't go back there,
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but I promised,
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so I went back by
myself for a couple of weeks.
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So what was in his
heart, you sort of,
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for one of a
better term infected you
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and you kind of
picked up the bug?
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Praise the Lord.
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So let's go
back to the beginning
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of this whole deal
because back in 1996,
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Upper Columbia Conference
is doing a mission trip.
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Yes.
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Now this is not something
that was organized by you.
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No, not at all.
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You sort of just jumped onboard?
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I did. Both of you went?
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Shelley did not go on that trip.
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Just you.
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What happened on that trip?
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In 1996, this
was really primarily
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a building project in
the city of En-ginyang,
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it's in Northern
Kenya among the Pokot Tribe.
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It really was
the first opportunity
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to develop a worship center,
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Seventh-day Adventist worship
center among the Pokot Tribe.
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The plan by the
Upper Columbia Conference
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was to come along side
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the Pokot people
develop a church there.
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And so really it was a
primarily a building project.
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We were also
providing primary medical care
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and dental care as a free
service to people who came,
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so that we could
also include them
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and bring attention
to the building project
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that we're part of.
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Was there any
Adventist president
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among the Pokot people
before previous to this?
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This really--
As I understand it,
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it was the first opportunity
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that the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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had to introduce the Adventist
message to the Pokot Tribe.
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Now where did the
call to come from?
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It didn't come from the Pokot
people, no Adventist there.
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Where did that start?
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I believe it came from
the Kenya Conference Reunion.
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So the Kenya leadership
sent out a message and said,
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we have the opportunity
to put up a structure,
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begin a church project here,
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would you come
along side us and help us?
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And the Upper
Columbia Conference
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had the
opportunity to, to do that
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and to make that reality.
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The Pokot
people, are you talking
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about a fairly
large tribe, small tribe?
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You know, I think its
several hundred thousand people
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in remote desert
area of Northern Kenya
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living at a very desert--
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difficult part of
the-- part of the country.
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Great Rift Valley up north there
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and these people have
been relatively isolated
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compared to some
of the other tribes
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that have maybe
had the opportunity,
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to have the gospel preached.
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So you're talking
about a fairly large
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people group that is un-reached?
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What was your
experience during that time?
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It's a wonderful
trip. Had a great time.
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Went with some
relatives, our daughter,
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oldest daughter had
a chance to go along.
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She met her future
husband there on that trip,
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as it turn out so it was pretty
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wonderful trip
for a lots of reasons.
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We didn't know at
that time. Indeed.
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But it also sort of reinforced
the difficult circumstances
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that people sometimes live in,
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in very remote
areas of the world.
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And also the transforming power
00:14:29.81\00:14:31.96
of the gospel in
the Adventist message
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because as we saw
this whole story unfold,
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it wasn't just
about the building,
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it was also about what
the presence of the church
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could do in
transforming a community
00:14:40.84\00:14:43.04
because they were conflicts
going on at the time in 1996.
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This conflict
goes back a long ways
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between the various tribes,
00:14:47.97\00:14:49.39
the Turkana's and the Pokots,
stealing each others cows
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and taking them
up to the boarder
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and selling them,
trading them for AK47s.
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This conflict was
going on at that time
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and it continued
on to the present.
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The people who were
there working with us
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were transformed by
the presence of the church
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because the presence of
the church brought about
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support, technical support
to invest in that community,
00:15:10.29\00:15:13.48
develop water and
then the presence of water
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in that community
helped to transform
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and so it began to
feel more like a town,
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like a community
and that brought peace.
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Like that government
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was going to give
them this piece of land,
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but they kind of gave it
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in a very
inconvenient place on purpose.
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They used that
to guard advantage
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by developing this
place and putting in water
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and again asking
for more support,
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four things like
the water project.
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So then they became the hub
and people started coming there
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to get their water and
they were able to develop
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many different
things in that area.
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The wonderful thing
about that project is,
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it's still going
and still improving.
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We have a picture of the church
that was taken a few years ago
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and they are still
a lot of people there.
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You can see pathfinders
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and community service
people and everything.
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So the church grew
from that small beginning
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and continues to the
state to be a very active force
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in the
community looking for ways
00:16:08.60\00:16:10.33
to improve gardening there
00:16:10.36\00:16:12.19
because of the dry conditions
the kind of water that's there,
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it's very difficult
for them to water anything
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because of the,
the salt in the water.
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So trying to find
seeds that will grow there
00:16:22.64\00:16:26.61
and benefiting the
whole community with their,
00:16:26.64\00:16:29.02
their research and their
advancements in that community.
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Yeah, so there were
lot of forces working
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against anything really
of substance happening there.
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And, plus you're
kind of end up in hot zone
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as far as
hostility that concerned.
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And yet Upper
Columbia came and did
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and obviously
the work is paid off
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because things are growing.
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It's so excited to go
back after this number of years
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and see the number of children.
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The picture showed the,
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the-- Pathfinder Club
for the En-ginyang Church
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and so, it's so
exciting to see that.
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See the first ever born.
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Oh, praise the
Lord. So that's 1996.
00:17:00.33\00:17:03.31
Obviously something
clicked in your mind
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or was planted in your
mind and laid there for a while
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because several years
later you started getting calls.
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Walk me through that experience.
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Shelley and I were working
in Rwanda at the time in 2011
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and we began to receive
emails and messages saying
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could you come and help us,
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we've just been
through two years
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of very difficult conflict.
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The conflict
stems back to the 1990s.
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It had been going on
over 16 years at the time
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between the two tribes
the Turkana's and the Pokot's.
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Now I want to
stop you there, Barry,
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because you're saying conflict.
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And I want to be very clear.
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Are you telling me
people shouting bad words
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at each other over the
fence or writing nasty emails?
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We're talking
about conflict tell me
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what is the
nature of the conflict?
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The conflict is very severe.
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When we
eventually went there in 2012
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and they were able to
tell us their stories,
00:17:55.29\00:17:56.90
we realized how difficult
00:17:56.93\00:17:58.22
circumstances
were for these people.
00:17:58.25\00:18:00.31
Women would go out to just
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get a bucket of
water from the river
00:18:01.80\00:18:04.12
and they are risking
their lives to do so.
00:18:04.15\00:18:06.24
They go out into the desert
to get a few palm branches
00:18:06.27\00:18:08.79
to try to weave
a basket together
00:18:08.82\00:18:10.84
and they would risk their
lives literally to do this.
00:18:10.87\00:18:13.07
People were taking
potshots at each other,
00:18:13.10\00:18:15.41
tremendous loss of life.
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In 2010, we happened to
see a document from 2010
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written by the people
of the Kapado community
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where we we'd eventually
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be working on
this peace initiative
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and we saw that, there
were hundreds of orphans
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probably about 300 at the time
and this is a small community.
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And of the parents who had died
as a result of this conflict,
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35 percent of them had
died because of violence
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and another20
percent because of HIV.
00:18:41.66\00:18:43.63
So this deep poverty and
violence goes hand in hand.
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It just brings people
down to a very, very low level.
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So at this point in
2000, are you living in Rwanda?
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You're on a
mission trip to Rwanda?
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Walk me through that?
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We were teaching
in Rwanda at the time.
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I was teaching physicians there
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and Shelley was
teaching deaf children
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as well as some English students
00:19:04.11\00:19:06.63
and an orphan group.
00:19:06.66\00:19:08.94
Just, just volunteering
the kinds of things that--
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So, Shelley, when
you get converted,
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you really get converted.
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She is amazing. She
did amazing thing there.
00:19:14.51\00:19:16.05
So you're back in Rwanda
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for how long was
this period of time
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that you're working in Rwanda?
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This was a four
month period of time
00:19:20.41\00:19:21.75
that we had
committed to teaching.
00:19:21.78\00:19:24.43
And that's when we
started getting these messages
00:19:24.46\00:19:27.48
and our initial response was
no, we're committed to Rwanda,
00:19:27.51\00:19:30.44
we're teaching here,
we don't have any money,
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we don't have the time.
00:19:32.04\00:19:33.61
We don't know anything
about cattle wrestling.
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We didn't learn about
that in medical school,
00:19:35.22\00:19:36.90
so thanks, but no thanks.
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That was the initial response.
00:19:38.21\00:19:40.33
So really-- I mean,
there are this conflict--
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They are a lot of
facets to as what I'm saying.
00:19:45.44\00:19:47.81
People being shot
yet, cattle being stolen
00:19:47.84\00:19:49.86
or a lot of things are going on,
00:19:49.89\00:19:50.92
this is sort of a hot conflict.
00:19:50.95\00:19:53.04
Were you able to
just sort of shut
00:19:53.07\00:19:54.52
your practice
down here in the States
00:19:54.55\00:19:55.99
or step back from it and
take these, these troops?
00:19:56.02\00:19:58.60
Shelley was telling me that
the nature of your teaching,
00:19:58.63\00:20:01.92
you could sort of
do it from anywhere
00:20:01.95\00:20:03.20
where you can
internet and get a computer.
00:20:03.23\00:20:05.06
So you're pretty portable,
but how were you able to take
00:20:05.09\00:20:07.93
such large blocks of
time away from your practice?
00:20:07.96\00:20:12.25
What I
discovered in 2011 is that,
00:20:12.28\00:20:14.45
taking four
months out of the year
00:20:14.48\00:20:16.66
and scaling back my,
00:20:16.69\00:20:18.43
my practice as
well as my our finances,
00:20:18.46\00:20:21.91
because that's
where it has to come from,
00:20:21.94\00:20:24.71
it's not easy to do.
00:20:24.74\00:20:26.31
When I got back
after the 2011 trip
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I realized that my
patients were unhappy with me,
00:20:29.20\00:20:31.41
my partners were
unhappy with me and things,
00:20:31.44\00:20:34.05
and things in Rwanda look like
we're gonna be shutting down.
00:20:34.08\00:20:38.27
That's when we
realized, well, maybe we need
00:20:38.30\00:20:39.91
to be looking at
this in another way.
00:20:39.94\00:20:41.60
Maybe God is trying
to telling us something.
00:20:41.63\00:20:43.50
Maybe we really could
curve out a month every year
00:20:43.53\00:20:46.30
and the financial support that
we're going to use for Rwanda
00:20:46.33\00:20:48.89
maybe we could use that
for this peace initiative.
00:20:48.92\00:20:52.34
We realized
because of the conflict
00:20:52.37\00:20:54.23
and because of our
experience in Rwanda
00:20:54.26\00:20:56.11
that peace is foundational.
00:20:56.14\00:20:57.86
You can't talk about development
00:20:57.89\00:20:59.79
whether you're
talking about gardening
00:20:59.82\00:21:01.04
or water development,
00:21:01.07\00:21:02.41
if people are
running for their lives.
00:21:02.44\00:21:04.31
So we had to make
peace, the foundational aspect
00:21:04.34\00:21:09.06
and we had to make sure that
all of our peace initiatives,
00:21:09.09\00:21:12.01
all of our
development initiatives
00:21:12.04\00:21:13.87
were tied to a peace process.
00:21:13.90\00:21:15.01
Okay, I want to--
00:21:15.04\00:21:16.51
Just allow me
to give you flowers
00:21:16.54\00:21:19.25
while you're alive
00:21:19.28\00:21:20.43
because I'm impressed
by a number of things.
00:21:20.46\00:21:22.44
One, when we
step out for the Lord.
00:21:22.47\00:21:25.39
The devil knows you're doing
that, so he does oppose you.
00:21:25.42\00:21:28.37
So not only is
there opposition in Africa
00:21:28.40\00:21:31.85
because of the
nature of the work
00:21:31.88\00:21:33.57
but things are
not all rosy at home
00:21:33.60\00:21:35.27
because you're missionary
zeal is impacting your practice.
00:21:35.30\00:21:40.78
So you've got pressure there.
00:21:40.81\00:21:42.72
Obviously that
pressure didn't say to you,
00:21:42.75\00:21:45.83
stop what you're
doing and come home
00:21:45.86\00:21:46.90
and be a
standard kind of bona-fide
00:21:46.93\00:21:49.67
American doctor type guy.
00:21:49.70\00:21:52.24
You were just looking
for more creative ways
00:21:52.27\00:21:54.56
to do what God
has called you to do.
00:21:54.59\00:21:57.39
And one was scaling back
and sort of, just adjusting
00:21:57.42\00:22:00.56
so that you could
still do this work for Lord.
00:22:00.59\00:22:03.07
I salute you for
you that. Thank you.
00:22:03.10\00:22:04.59
And thank you for
following the calls of God.
00:22:04.62\00:22:06.91
So now you're thinking
we're gonna go back to Kenya,
00:22:06.94\00:22:12.32
but it makes no sense
to try to start a work
00:22:12.35\00:22:14.95
when people are
shooting at each other.
00:22:14.98\00:22:16.98
So everything now is based
on trying to get some peace
00:22:17.01\00:22:20.09
and some sanity
to the situation.
00:22:20.12\00:22:22.43
How did you-- I mean
that's a massive task.
00:22:22.46\00:22:24.92
You were not Henry Kissinger.
00:22:24.95\00:22:27.76
You know you're a doctor
00:22:27.79\00:22:29.72
and you've got
skills of the doctor
00:22:29.75\00:22:31.15
and yet you got to try to
establish this some sanity
00:22:31.18\00:22:34.45
before you can even
do what you want to do,
00:22:34.48\00:22:35.70
so walk me through
that experience if you will.
00:22:35.73\00:22:37.89
For me it was a
matter of deep prayer.
00:22:37.92\00:22:40.18
I said, God, I
don't know what I'm doing,
00:22:40.21\00:22:41.93
but You're calling me.
00:22:41.96\00:22:43.24
If You're telling me,
You got to open the way,
00:22:43.27\00:22:44.74
You got to hold my hand,
00:22:44.77\00:22:46.12
You got to support
me through this process.
00:22:46.15\00:22:48.23
So really it was a matter
of deep prayer at the time.
00:22:48.26\00:22:50.67
And yet we wanted to experience
what God meant when He said,
00:22:50.70\00:22:53.27
"Blessed are the peacemakers."
00:22:53.30\00:22:54.60
What does that mean?
00:22:54.63\00:22:55.66
You know, how do I
step into a peace process?
00:22:55.69\00:22:58.37
This is a miraculous
and divine sort of process.
00:22:58.40\00:23:01.34
This is not something
that has just generated
00:23:01.37\00:23:03.02
from human power.
00:23:03.05\00:23:05.32
So I said, God, if
you're serious about this,
00:23:05.35\00:23:07.53
if You want me involved,
You got to open the way,
00:23:07.56\00:23:10.03
You got to make it clear to me
how we're gonna make this work?
00:23:10.06\00:23:12.98
And I felt like He was.
He was opening that door.
00:23:13.01\00:23:14.99
So in 2012, we had the
chance to make our first trip
00:23:15.02\00:23:19.49
and we sat down with both sides
00:23:19.52\00:23:21.51
because in a conflict
zone you really can't say,
00:23:21.54\00:23:24.36
well, these are the good
guys and these are the bad guys.
00:23:24.39\00:23:26.87
Just because one group has
the upper hand at the moment,
00:23:26.90\00:23:29.53
it doesn't mean that there
has really any better or worse,
00:23:29.56\00:23:31.50
they are just human beings
doing what we do as humans.
00:23:31.53\00:23:36.03
Well, we decided
we're going to have
00:23:36.06\00:23:37.76
to set some
ground rules for the way
00:23:37.79\00:23:40.08
that we conduct
ourselves in this process.
00:23:40.11\00:23:43.15
And we recognized because
of our experience in Rwanda
00:23:43.18\00:23:45.95
and because of the nature
00:23:45.98\00:23:47.15
of the transforming
in the power of peace,
00:23:47.18\00:23:49.11
that we needed
engage both sides.
00:23:49.14\00:23:51.53
We went to meet
with the Pokot's,
00:23:51.56\00:23:53.03
we went to meet
with the Turkana's,
00:23:53.06\00:23:54.24
we sat down, we
listened to their stories,
00:23:54.27\00:23:56.44
we listened to the
difficulties they were having.
00:23:56.47\00:23:59.16
And what we
recognized in 2012 is that,
00:23:59.19\00:24:02.14
both sides were equally
impoverished by this conflict.
00:24:02.17\00:24:05.62
The Turkana's were sort
of hunted down in a community
00:24:05.65\00:24:09.54
where they
couldn't travel any longer,
00:24:09.57\00:24:11.32
because they
would have to travel
00:24:11.35\00:24:12.52
across hostile Pokot territory
and risk losing their lives.
00:24:12.55\00:24:17.24
They had the
hospital, they had the schools
00:24:17.27\00:24:21.05
and they have the churches,
00:24:21.08\00:24:22.99
but they didn't have
access to their herds,
00:24:23.02\00:24:25.77
to water, to transportation,
all of those things, commerce.
00:24:25.80\00:24:30.94
The Pokot's on the
other hand had the water
00:24:30.97\00:24:32.98
and they had the land and they
had all the flocks and herds,
00:24:33.01\00:24:36.32
but they couldn't
access primary healthcare
00:24:36.35\00:24:38.22
and they couldn't
send their children,
00:24:38.25\00:24:40.35
so it created their
own sense of poverty,
00:24:40.38\00:24:42.53
both sides were
equally impoverished.
00:24:42.56\00:24:44.43
What we wanted to do is, to
bring the two sides together
00:24:44.46\00:24:47.41
and talk about peace.
00:24:47.44\00:24:49.26
Each of our initiatives,
every part of our development
00:24:49.29\00:24:53.02
was to be tied
to a peace process
00:24:53.05\00:24:54.96
and we had to engage both
sides in order to do that.
00:24:54.99\00:24:58.15
And then we could talk about
00:24:58.18\00:24:59.23
what the priorities
were for the tribes.
00:24:59.26\00:25:03.34
The Turkana's could
set their own agenda
00:25:03.37\00:25:06.17
and the Pokot's could set their
own agenda, but both sides,
00:25:06.20\00:25:09.41
both agendas would be
tied to a peace process.
00:25:09.44\00:25:11.34
Peace process.
00:25:11.37\00:25:12.41
On this trip, Shelley,
did you go with your husband?
00:25:12.44\00:25:14.64
No, not in their first one.
00:25:14.67\00:25:15.71
We have a picture of
getting out there to the site
00:25:15.74\00:25:18.24
and you can,
which doesn't, you know,
00:25:18.27\00:25:20.02
it doesn't
inhabit me from going.
00:25:20.05\00:25:22.31
This picture actually
makes it look lot greener
00:25:22.34\00:25:25.10
and more lush than it is.
00:25:25.13\00:25:26.61
I don't more-- If
we just took about
00:25:26.64\00:25:28.75
two thirds of those trees away,
00:25:28.78\00:25:30.72
it might look a
little bit more standard,
00:25:30.75\00:25:32.82
but it was
difficult trip to get there.
00:25:32.85\00:25:35.24
And when I went--
00:25:35.27\00:25:38.44
I went in 2013
for the first time
00:25:38.47\00:25:42.69
it was quite the trip.
00:25:42.72\00:25:43.97
We've been on bad
African rose before.
00:25:44.00\00:25:45.72
I'm not sure these
are the worst of them,
00:25:45.75\00:25:47.61
but it's a
difficult place to get to
00:25:47.64\00:25:50.75
and the place
was, it's inhospitable.
00:25:50.78\00:25:55.14
We value and honor those
people for staying there.
00:25:55.17\00:25:58.15
I guess that's
where they are living,
00:25:58.18\00:25:59.65
but when we came it was
100 degrees plus each day
00:25:59.68\00:26:02.76
and they said, we
brought the cool weather
00:26:02.79\00:26:05.98
which was interesting to us.
00:26:06.01\00:26:07.35
Very hot days and
the evenings were hot
00:26:07.38\00:26:10.87
and before he went Barry said,
there will be running water
00:26:10.90\00:26:13.88
and they will a electricity
00:26:13.91\00:26:15.67
because of the hydroelectric
project that have been
00:26:15.70\00:26:17.63
put it some finished
missionaries back in the 1960s
00:26:17.66\00:26:22.13
and they left
about the 90s sometimes,
00:26:22.16\00:26:24.00
so they had this guest house,
00:26:24.03\00:26:25.62
it was quite nice
and some other buildings,
00:26:25.65\00:26:27.74
that had electricity and fans
00:26:27.77\00:26:29.61
and one even had
an air conditioner
00:26:29.64\00:26:31.39
and had a
refrigerator and everything
00:26:31.42\00:26:34.60
and the finished
people had put in a sauna.
00:26:34.63\00:26:37.37
We don't why, it makes no sense.
00:26:37.40\00:26:39.85
But when I arrived
there in 2013 no electricity,
00:26:39.88\00:26:44.00
no running water
and it broken down.
00:26:44.03\00:26:46.38
Hydroelectric
system had broken down.
00:26:46.41\00:26:48.72
And then we went back in 2014,
00:26:48.75\00:26:51.32
in the mean time we
had raised some money
00:26:51.35\00:26:53.32
and they had fixed
the hydroelectric system,
00:26:53.35\00:26:56.23
but by the time
we went back in 2014,
00:26:56.26\00:26:58.60
it was broken again.
00:26:58.63\00:26:59.78
Yeah, so...
00:26:59.81\00:27:01.25
When Barry first went in 2011?
00:27:01.28\00:27:05.29
Sorry, 2012. 2012, 2012.
00:27:05.32\00:27:07.75
Were you
worried because you know
00:27:07.78\00:27:08.82
he's going into try to settle
some decade's long conflict?
00:27:08.85\00:27:13.86
Where you worried
about? Not so much.
00:27:13.89\00:27:16.55
Maybe he didn't give
me very many details.
00:27:16.58\00:27:18.81
Sometimes he doesn't give
me all the story on purpose.
00:27:18.84\00:27:22.22
I don't know sincerely,
what is the extent, you know.
00:27:22.25\00:27:27.52
But, no I wasn't
aware of all of that details
00:27:27.55\00:27:30.31
and I'm not showing you
all the stories of the people.
00:27:30.34\00:27:33.48
You know one of the stories
that he may tell a bit later
00:27:33.51\00:27:35.44
is about a man risked his
life to save some Pokot's,
00:27:35.47\00:27:39.36
he was a Turkana, he risked
his life to save some Pokot's.
00:27:39.39\00:27:42.23
We didn't know
those stories then,
00:27:42.26\00:27:43.69
possibly was just this well.
00:27:43.72\00:27:46.53
So obviously
during one of these times
00:27:46.56\00:27:48.64
your heart became
knit with this project
00:27:48.67\00:27:50.65
and with these people.
00:27:50.68\00:27:52.26
My question is since
you're not living there
00:27:52.29\00:27:54.74
and we talk about
this a little bit further
00:27:54.77\00:27:56.00
but how did you know
that your peace platform
00:27:56.03\00:28:01.01
because everything was based
on cessation of hostilities.
00:28:01.04\00:28:04.83
We got to behave
like civilized people
00:28:04.86\00:28:06.45
before we can
begin to build together.
00:28:06.48\00:28:08.49
How did you know that,
that was being carried out
00:28:08.52\00:28:10.49
or that was even
still part of the equation,
00:28:10.52\00:28:12.90
since you're here and
things are going on there.
00:28:12.93\00:28:16.03
How did that play itself out?
00:28:16.06\00:28:18.16
That's really good
point because, you know,
00:28:18.19\00:28:20.67
the peace
initiative really ties itself
00:28:20.70\00:28:22.79
to a number of different
activities simultaneous
00:28:22.82\00:28:25.11
and we'll talk about
those in just a minute.
00:28:25.14\00:28:27.31
But we really have to have
good partners on the ground.
00:28:27.34\00:28:29.92
We have to have Kenyan partners
00:28:29.95\00:28:31.72
who are really
committed to the peace process.
00:28:31.75\00:28:34.06
We had a pastor by
the name of Jacob Beles,
00:28:34.09\00:28:37.42
wonderful person,
very committed individual,
00:28:37.45\00:28:40.10
who was a missionary
within the country of Kenya
00:28:40.13\00:28:43.31
from another tribe
brought the Adventist message
00:28:43.34\00:28:45.46
and the gospel to the
Pokot's for the first time.
00:28:45.49\00:28:48.50
We met him in 1996 and we said,
00:28:48.53\00:28:50.99
this is the person that
we want to partner with.
00:28:51.02\00:28:53.26
Another young man by
the name of Samuel Lamar's.
00:28:53.29\00:28:55.91
Samuel is a
nursing student presently
00:28:55.94\00:28:58.44
but he met us for the
first time also in 1996.
00:28:58.47\00:29:01.51
A young man who
is also impoverished
00:29:01.54\00:29:03.23
because of the conflict.
00:29:03.26\00:29:04.29
He lost his father
at a very young age.
00:29:04.32\00:29:07.22
His father was a
Pokot and were shot
00:29:07.25\00:29:08.95
by the Turkana's
during this conflict.
00:29:08.98\00:29:11.37
So he lived with
that legacy growing up
00:29:11.40\00:29:13.64
and when he medicine 1996,
00:29:13.67\00:29:16.13
his life began on
a different journey.
00:29:16.16\00:29:18.50
He said, this, I want
my life to be about this.
00:29:18.53\00:29:20.26
I see these people coming in
00:29:20.29\00:29:21.88
to try to bless
people with their lives
00:29:21.91\00:29:23.79
and that's the direction
I want to go with my life.
00:29:23.82\00:29:26.30
So he's a nursing student now
00:29:26.33\00:29:28.15
and he's part of our initiative.
00:29:28.18\00:29:29.36
He's actually the director
of the peace initiative.
00:29:29.39\00:29:31.71
That's how we have
accountability built in.
00:29:31.74\00:29:33.58
So obviously you had enough
people in those two tribes
00:29:33.61\00:29:37.40
who were vary enough
of conflict that you had,
00:29:37.43\00:29:40.49
you had a base of
people with which to work.
00:29:40.52\00:29:43.08
Also when we go on our
trips, there's always a meeting
00:29:43.11\00:29:46.79
and we try to
meet with both sides,
00:29:46.82\00:29:48.31
not every trip is
that possible to do so,
00:29:48.34\00:29:50.64
but there is a meeting
00:29:50.67\00:29:51.90
and we have a slide
of one of those meetings
00:29:51.93\00:29:53.60
as well of the
people that come together.
00:29:53.63\00:29:56.13
And of course
Barry can tell you about
00:29:56.16\00:29:58.01
one of their first
meetings he had there with them
00:29:58.04\00:30:00.27
that helped him know, he
absolutely had to do this.
00:30:00.30\00:30:03.59
This is-- I think the
picture of their first meeting.
00:30:03.62\00:30:05.79
Yes, it is.
00:30:05.82\00:30:07.74
So this is our first meeting
00:30:07.77\00:30:08.80
with the Turkana's
side of the equation,
00:30:08.83\00:30:11.19
but we decided that we
really needed to meet with both,
00:30:11.22\00:30:14.42
the folks in the Turkana's
side told us their stories
00:30:14.45\00:30:17.73
and I broke down when I
went to this first meeting.
00:30:17.76\00:30:20.19
When I heard the
stories of the women
00:30:20.22\00:30:22.37
who were risking their lives
00:30:22.40\00:30:23.43
just to get a
little bit of water,
00:30:23.46\00:30:24.55
to get a little bit
of weaving materials
00:30:24.58\00:30:26.65
so they can make a
little bit of income
00:30:26.68\00:30:28.08
for their
families, I broke down.
00:30:28.11\00:30:29.79
I couldn't bear to
the thought of my sisters
00:30:29.82\00:30:32.66
or my mother having to
live in circumstances like this
00:30:32.69\00:30:36.75
and risking their lives
00:30:36.78\00:30:37.84
just to try to take
care of their families.
00:30:37.87\00:30:39.68
I said, we've
got to do something,
00:30:39.71\00:30:41.12
I don't have
any-- I'm a human being.
00:30:41.15\00:30:43.40
But we have to trust
that by divine intervention
00:30:43.43\00:30:46.63
and by partnership with
God that we can accomplish
00:30:46.66\00:30:49.89
what we can only
dream of as human beings.
00:30:49.92\00:30:52.23
They had the military there,
00:30:52.26\00:30:53.68
the Kenyan military
had been stationed there
00:30:53.71\00:30:55.92
to try to elevate the stress
of the conflict and everything.
00:30:55.95\00:30:59.58
And they tried many different
things over the past decade
00:30:59.61\00:31:02.92
or so and nothing had been
effective for the long term.
00:31:02.95\00:31:06.70
It's true.
00:31:06.73\00:31:07.77
So the first trip now--
Just to sort of I'll try this.
00:31:07.80\00:31:10.57
The first trip
you went by yourself.
00:31:10.60\00:31:12.79
The next year or
your in change you came
00:31:12.82\00:31:15.05
what did you feel
or find by the time
00:31:15.08\00:31:16.83
you got there, Shelley?
00:31:16.86\00:31:17.89
Well, the people--
00:31:17.92\00:31:19.23
As far as feeling
about the project,
00:31:19.26\00:31:21.36
you know, this was a commitment
00:31:21.39\00:31:23.58
that we made
financially to these people.
00:31:23.61\00:31:27.20
And you don't, at least we don't
00:31:27.23\00:31:29.93
make a financial commitment
without great thought.
00:31:29.96\00:31:32.42
We invest in what we believe in.
00:31:32.45\00:31:34.70
And so invested in this project.
00:31:34.73\00:31:37.66
So it was
rewarding to meet the people.
00:31:37.69\00:31:40.80
Very loving and
welcoming people.
00:31:40.83\00:31:42.64
The first trip I did not
get to meet any of the Pokot's
00:31:42.67\00:31:46.90
although there were
some who came into town
00:31:46.93\00:31:49.17
and previous to this,
00:31:49.20\00:31:50.39
the Pokot's would not come
into this little Turkana Island
00:31:50.42\00:31:52.77
in the middle
of Pokot territory.
00:31:52.80\00:31:54.53
They didn't feel
safe going there.
00:31:54.56\00:31:56.57
But by the time we came in 2013,
00:31:56.60\00:31:59.49
they were coming into
town for medical care,
00:31:59.52\00:32:01.35
during the
daylight hours not at night.
00:32:01.38\00:32:03.22
Of course night at
that part of the world
00:32:03.25\00:32:04.75
near the equator from
six till six basically.
00:32:04.78\00:32:08.59
But it was
wonderful to see them come
00:32:08.62\00:32:11.34
and access medical
care and walk to the village
00:32:11.37\00:32:14.54
feeling safe
that they could do so.
00:32:14.57\00:32:16.57
To meet the
orphans and meet the people
00:32:16.60\00:32:19.90
that are part of
the peace initiative,
00:32:19.93\00:32:21.88
the main players
there within the community.
00:32:21.91\00:32:25.27
It was really
blessed thing to do,
00:32:25.30\00:32:28.34
despite how hot it was and
dry and relatively miserable,
00:32:28.37\00:32:32.66
but it was, you
don't worry about that
00:32:32.69\00:32:34.46
because you're doing something
that's really wonderful.
00:32:34.49\00:32:35.80
Really wonderful.
00:32:35.83\00:32:36.86
Now and not to
patch you on the back,
00:32:36.89\00:32:38.24
but this is a Lord being pleased
00:32:38.27\00:32:41.07
to smile upon your efforts
00:32:41.10\00:32:42.84
to do what the
army could not do.
00:32:42.87\00:32:45.68
I mean people are stealing
cattle and buying AK47s,
00:32:45.71\00:32:48.98
these are not little popguns
these are assault rifles.
00:32:49.01\00:32:52.27
So you have well armed people
who can do a lot of damage
00:32:52.30\00:32:55.31
and a lot of destruction
and obviously had been doing,
00:32:55.34\00:32:57.93
but God was pleased
to smile on your efforts
00:32:57.96\00:33:00.09
and you saw a
difference of change.
00:33:00.12\00:33:02.73
Things were
changing by the time.
00:33:02.76\00:33:04.42
Shelley came on
that first trip in 2013,
00:33:04.45\00:33:08.13
we could see that
they were measurable ways
00:33:08.16\00:33:09.61
in which peace was
coming to this community.
00:33:09.64\00:33:11.94
We like to highlight
a few of those pictures
00:33:11.97\00:33:13.63
if you don't mind.
00:33:13.66\00:33:14.86
And just talk
about the peace projects
00:33:14.89\00:33:18.10
that are involved in peace.
00:33:18.13\00:33:19.16
So I think the next picture
00:33:19.19\00:33:20.77
is of the some of
the orphans there,
00:33:20.80\00:33:25.27
we sponsor about 10 orphans
00:33:25.30\00:33:27.34
as part of this
peace initiative.
00:33:27.37\00:33:28.99
They decided which
ones were most worthy
00:33:29.02\00:33:31.05
and needy of some support.
00:33:31.08\00:33:32.98
And so we came along
side them with orphan support
00:33:33.01\00:33:36.12
and these are the 10 orphans,
these are just receiving
00:33:36.15\00:33:38.27
some guest on one
of the recent trips.
00:33:38.30\00:33:40.64
Another picture
the hot water waterfall
00:33:40.67\00:33:45.20
that flows down into
the river from up above.
00:33:45.23\00:33:49.00
This is very, very hot
water and it's very salty
00:33:49.03\00:33:51.24
so it's destructive in
terms of the equipment.
00:33:51.27\00:33:54.36
Beside at there to left you
can see the simple hydro plant
00:33:54.39\00:33:57.92
that was developed there
by the finish missionaries.
00:33:57.95\00:34:00.77
This is that something else
00:34:00.80\00:34:01.85
that we want to
try to reestablish
00:34:01.88\00:34:04.78
because it's
important for income generation
00:34:04.81\00:34:07.06
and income generation is
such an important part of peace.
00:34:07.09\00:34:10.22
Because people have
to be able to provide
00:34:10.25\00:34:11.86
for their
families in a simple way
00:34:11.89\00:34:13.20
so that they are not, they are
not dealing with this conflict,
00:34:13.23\00:34:17.63
deep poverty sort
of lends itself to.
00:34:17.66\00:34:20.18
Now you says,
water is hot and salty.
00:34:20.21\00:34:21.79
Yes, it is.
00:34:21.82\00:34:22.85
So that's rough on
any kind of malady.
00:34:22.88\00:34:25.28
Yeah, it's a
challenge, yeah, yeah.
00:34:25.31\00:34:26.79
So that the same part keeps
wearing out over and over again
00:34:26.82\00:34:29.82
and they have to replacing it.
00:34:29.85\00:34:31.55
And we were foolish enough--
00:34:31.58\00:34:33.36
The first time we were there,
00:34:33.39\00:34:34.42
we Americans
were both mechanical,
00:34:34.45\00:34:35.89
we're gonna fix this.
00:34:35.92\00:34:37.85
So we decide that we're
gonna way across the river there
00:34:37.88\00:34:41.65
and of course just
upstream is the bathing area,
00:34:41.68\00:34:43.66
so you know they have to
bath, watch people walking there
00:34:43.69\00:34:47.94
and you can't walk
right where the waterfall is
00:34:47.97\00:34:49.94
because it is too hot,
you will scald yourself.
00:34:49.97\00:34:52.19
What kind of temperature
are we talking about?
00:34:52.22\00:34:54.32
Hundred and twenty?
00:34:54.35\00:34:55.39
I think, yeah,
it's more than a 120.
00:34:55.42\00:34:56.45
More than 120,
it's hot. It's hot.
00:34:56.48\00:34:58.76
So we had to--
if to go downstream
00:34:58.79\00:35:00.18
at least, you know,
five, ten feet or so
00:35:00.21\00:35:02.55
and it's still very, very
warm and then climb up beside
00:35:02.58\00:35:05.67
and take it all the parts
and here we're with our tools
00:35:05.70\00:35:08.25
and getting all
greasy and everything.
00:35:08.28\00:35:10.46
Come to find out--
00:35:10.49\00:35:11.95
They knew exactly
what was wrong with it.
00:35:11.98\00:35:13.49
The ahead of time
they just were too kind
00:35:13.52\00:35:15.22
to really tell us.
00:35:15.25\00:35:16.28
They knew the
part there was out,
00:35:16.31\00:35:17.65
it been out before.
00:35:17.68\00:35:18.92
They had a
person trained to fix it
00:35:18.95\00:35:21.43
and we were just kind
of trying to look like
00:35:21.46\00:35:23.84
we knew what we're
doing and getting the part out
00:35:23.87\00:35:27.10
and taking pictures and saying,
we can, we can help with this.
00:35:27.13\00:35:30.37
Basically we just
provided some money for them
00:35:30.40\00:35:32.26
to buy another
part which broke down.
00:35:32.29\00:35:34.44
We were there
within nine months.
00:35:34.47\00:35:35.81
The next trip
was nine months later
00:35:35.84\00:35:37.35
and it was
already broken down again.
00:35:37.38\00:35:39.17
So something has to
change with the whole system.
00:35:39.20\00:35:40.71
Yes, yes. Yes, yes.
00:35:40.74\00:35:41.77
So this looks like
a fairly robust flow.
00:35:41.80\00:35:44.41
I mean it's not a trickle,
this is coming out pretty good.
00:35:44.44\00:35:46.85
So if you can get something
00:35:46.88\00:35:48.07
that would work
this can drive it.
00:35:48.10\00:35:49.58
Exactly.
00:35:49.61\00:35:50.64
So we need technical
support to try to help us,
00:35:50.67\00:35:52.81
put this back together in
a way that seals the bearings
00:35:52.84\00:35:55.76
so that they don't
corrode so quickly.
00:35:55.79\00:35:57.54
And we think about
the income generation.
00:35:57.57\00:35:59.23
I don't know if
that's the next slide,
00:35:59.26\00:36:00.48
but the, the income
generation possibilities.
00:36:00.51\00:36:05.78
They are already our ladies
because they are safer now.
00:36:05.81\00:36:08.18
They can go down
and get the reeds.
00:36:08.21\00:36:09.99
They have two
different groups develop there
00:36:10.02\00:36:12.42
and the Turkana's up
there in the little town
00:36:12.45\00:36:14.96
that are weaving
baskets and trying to sell them.
00:36:14.99\00:36:17.75
We'd buy some every time.
00:36:17.78\00:36:19.46
We bring them back to the States
00:36:19.49\00:36:21.18
and then we have
a little tiny store
00:36:21.21\00:36:23.58
in our Adventist school
in Colville, Washington,
00:36:23.61\00:36:27.58
where we sell
some of these baskets.
00:36:27.61\00:36:30.23
And some of
those are fairly large.
00:36:30.26\00:36:31.83
They are -- Right, we
bring as many as we can.
00:36:31.86\00:36:34.80
We buy as many as we can
00:36:34.83\00:36:36.05
and 'cause we take
things and leave them there
00:36:36.08\00:36:38.25
and then we have
room in our suitcases.
00:36:38.28\00:36:40.10
We bring back baskets
00:36:40.13\00:36:41.95
and that's a
wonderful way to support them.
00:36:41.98\00:36:44.29
You think about the other income
00:36:44.32\00:36:45.91
producing
possibilities with electricity.
00:36:45.94\00:36:49.42
You extend your
hours of your shops.
00:36:49.45\00:36:51.39
You can have
refrigeration 'cause they have
00:36:51.42\00:36:53.56
a refrigerator there
like in the guesthouse.
00:36:53.59\00:36:55.64
They put things in it.
00:36:55.67\00:36:56.71
I have no idea why
00:36:56.74\00:36:57.84
'cause it's not
cold, it's not even cool,
00:36:57.87\00:37:00.71
but they put things in there.
00:37:00.74\00:37:01.77
So you can imagine.
We think about ice cream.
00:37:01.80\00:37:03.77
They could make ice cream there.
00:37:03.80\00:37:05.44
And they could have charging
stations for cell phones
00:37:05.47\00:37:08.46
because they do
have cell phones there,
00:37:08.49\00:37:10.95
ours never work there,
but they do have cell phones
00:37:10.98\00:37:13.19
and bringing the
possibility of internet there
00:37:13.22\00:37:15.65
and developing--
00:37:15.68\00:37:16.72
There's tens of thousands--
00:37:16.75\00:37:17.78
So once you bring in electricity
00:37:17.81\00:37:18.86
I mean its limit
less. I thing we should do.
00:37:18.89\00:37:20.78
So that's kind
of the first thing
00:37:20.81\00:37:22.36
and electricity can also
help with purifying the water,
00:37:22.39\00:37:25.39
so the water is drinkable.
00:37:25.42\00:37:27.91
I like to show a
picture of hospital workers,
00:37:27.94\00:37:29.82
well if I could.
00:37:29.85\00:37:31.22
There's a couple of
pictures of the hospital.
00:37:31.25\00:37:33.08
This is a delivery of a baby
00:37:33.11\00:37:34.35
that we're privileged to
be a part of this past year.
00:37:34.38\00:37:37.97
This is an amazing
experience in such a remote area
00:37:38.00\00:37:40.63
because they have
so little equipment
00:37:40.66\00:37:43.51
and when I asked them--
00:37:43.54\00:37:44.57
so they asked me to come
and help out with this delivery
00:37:44.60\00:37:46.97
and I did come and said,
00:37:47.00\00:37:48.15
what do you have free equipment?
00:37:48.18\00:37:50.50
We don't have
that. We don't have that.
00:37:50.53\00:37:53.32
You know, it's just such
a difficult circumstance.
00:37:53.35\00:37:55.26
So I started making a shopping
list immediately and said,
00:37:55.29\00:37:58.16
we've got to change that,
we need to try to help you.
00:37:58.19\00:38:01.06
Hospital
innovation, hospital equipment
00:38:01.09\00:38:03.05
is part of the peace process.
00:38:03.08\00:38:04.85
We have another picture
00:38:04.88\00:38:06.17
of doing a minor
surgery on this gentleman.
00:38:06.20\00:38:08.34
I want to just
elute his, this gentleman
00:38:08.37\00:38:10.97
because it's such
a remarkable story.
00:38:11.00\00:38:12.70
He had a funny fatty
little lump on his forehead
00:38:12.73\00:38:15.30
that he asked me to help with.
00:38:15.33\00:38:16.36
He speaks very
good-- He always wear hat.
00:38:16.39\00:38:17.52
Yeah, he always wear hat.
00:38:17.55\00:38:18.58
He's one of the
workers there in the hospital.
00:38:18.61\00:38:21.37
His story is amazing
00:38:21.40\00:38:22.43
because he was
willing to risk his life.
00:38:22.46\00:38:24.60
He was one of the
people that when violence
00:38:24.63\00:38:27.83
again erupted in January 2012,
00:38:27.86\00:38:30.48
he was willing to
sacrifice his life.
00:38:30.51\00:38:32.45
He's Turkana and there
were Pokot's in the hospital
00:38:32.48\00:38:35.10
who were being stoned,
this is serious stuff there.
00:38:35.13\00:38:38.41
The Turkana chief was
killed in January 2012
00:38:38.44\00:38:42.29
and then these
people came back to town
00:38:42.32\00:38:46.54
and they began
to kill the Pokot's.
00:38:46.57\00:38:48.63
Any Pokot's that they
could put their hands on,
00:38:48.66\00:38:50.31
they have to kill them.
00:38:50.34\00:38:51.79
There were
several in the hospital.
00:38:51.82\00:38:53.03
They were hidden by this
man, locked in the laboratory,
00:38:53.06\00:38:55.56
risked his life,
stones were flying,
00:38:55.59\00:38:57.50
people are being cut,
00:38:57.53\00:38:58.59
but he risked his
life because he's willing
00:38:58.62\00:39:00.79
to lay down his life
for the sake of his enemies.
00:39:00.82\00:39:02.95
We said these are kind of people
00:39:02.98\00:39:04.16
that we want to partner with.
00:39:04.19\00:39:05.26
Certainly, certainly, certainly.
00:39:05.29\00:39:06.74
Bless his heart. Yeah.
00:39:06.77\00:39:07.80
So you were able to take
care of this thing on the head?
00:39:07.83\00:39:09.77
Yeah.
00:39:09.80\00:39:10.83
Just a simple
kindness, easy to do.
00:39:10.86\00:39:15.02
Sure he's very,
very, very pleased.
00:39:15.05\00:39:17.45
Yeah. So that was your 2013.
00:39:17.48\00:39:21.60
You went back again
in 2014? Yes, we did.
00:39:21.63\00:39:24.79
We heard about an orphan project
00:39:24.82\00:39:27.49
or the conflict
in southern Sudan
00:39:27.52\00:39:31.50
of course it's
been ongoing issue
00:39:31.53\00:39:33.71
and children are fleeing,
00:39:33.74\00:39:34.99
orphans are
fleeing and other refugees.
00:39:35.02\00:39:37.21
We heard about an opportunity
00:39:37.24\00:39:38.42
to come alongside
some of these children
00:39:38.45\00:39:40.60
who are orphans and had ended up
00:39:40.63\00:39:42.29
in an refugee
camp in Northern Kenya.
00:39:42.32\00:39:46.28
Some friends of
ours called us and said,
00:39:46.31\00:39:47.62
are you willing to
come and help us with this,
00:39:47.65\00:39:49.13
now your
commitment to work in Africa
00:39:49.16\00:39:50.98
and we said well, who
would want to turn down
00:39:51.01\00:39:53.09
an opportunity to
help 600 orphan children.
00:39:53.12\00:39:56.74
And our job was to go and
do a medical evaluation to see
00:39:56.77\00:39:59.18
if they were ready for the
next part of their journey.
00:39:59.21\00:40:01.45
Very bleak circumstances.
00:40:01.48\00:40:03.65
Well, long story
but that situation
00:40:03.68\00:40:07.17
was more
difficult than we thought.
00:40:07.20\00:40:09.31
What we're doing
now is to write a--
00:40:09.34\00:40:10.99
We wrote a proposal to
the UN High Commissioner
00:40:11.02\00:40:13.39
for Refugees to see
00:40:13.42\00:40:14.45
if there was a way
to bring those children,
00:40:14.48\00:40:15.83
incorporate them into the peace
00:40:15.86\00:40:17.60
process in this
community of Kapado.
00:40:17.63\00:40:20.69
Not an easy thing to do,
00:40:20.72\00:40:22.38
but we're working with UN to see
00:40:22.41\00:40:23.44
if that can be a reality.
00:40:23.47\00:40:24.68
We heard about some
other needs at the same time.
00:40:24.71\00:40:27.29
But, so this whole peace process
00:40:27.32\00:40:30.24
is just sort of blossoming,
00:40:30.27\00:40:31.62
I'd say, where do we--
How do we curtail this thing?
00:40:31.65\00:40:34.89
Is this something a dream
00:40:34.92\00:40:35.99
that maybe some other
people have in their hearts
00:40:36.02\00:40:38.45
as well to see how they
can help with technical support
00:40:38.48\00:40:43.15
or ideas of orphan support?
00:40:43.18\00:40:45.45
And then we heard
about a medical school
00:40:45.48\00:40:47.52
opportunity in Western Ethiopia
00:40:47.55\00:40:49.35
where there are
again a number of refugees.
00:40:49.38\00:40:51.49
One of our
South Sudanese friends
00:40:51.52\00:40:52.93
that we met there said,
00:40:52.96\00:40:54.00
which would be
willing to help us
00:40:54.03\00:40:55.06
start a medical
school in Western Ethiopia
00:40:55.09\00:40:57.28
to try to help transform
00:40:57.31\00:40:58.90
the healthcare
system in South Sudan.
00:40:58.93\00:41:01.21
So it just goes on and on.
00:41:01.24\00:41:03.67
I see three specific
fronts that you're working on.
00:41:03.70\00:41:07.01
First, you got the medical
needs, the clinical needs,
00:41:07.04\00:41:11.11
then you've got the electrical
slash mechanical deal.
00:41:11.14\00:41:15.79
You've got to get power there.
00:41:15.82\00:41:17.15
Challenges, yeah.
00:41:17.18\00:41:19.10
And then of
course there's always
00:41:19.13\00:41:20.82
the spread of the
gospel as you know
00:41:20.85\00:41:22.86
and/you've got a lot of children
00:41:22.89\00:41:27.07
without parents who
need, who need care.
00:41:27.10\00:41:29.49
So what became, let's build
a church and get out of here
00:41:29.52\00:41:33.26
has now sort of blossomed into
really a lifetime commitment.
00:41:33.29\00:41:36.84
And you said you have given them
00:41:36.87\00:41:37.90
a commitment of five years.
00:41:37.93\00:41:38.96
That's correct.
00:41:38.99\00:41:40.02
I rather suspect hearing
you and talking with you that,
00:41:40.05\00:41:43.06
that's gonna go on a
little longer than that.
00:41:43.09\00:41:45.04
May be.
00:41:45.07\00:41:46.59
But this project sort of
owns your heart, doesn't it?
00:41:46.62\00:41:51.43
Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:51.46\00:41:52.70
It just gives me such
a sense of fulfillment.
00:41:52.73\00:41:56.33
When I'm going
through the day-to-day work
00:41:56.36\00:41:58.17
in my American practice,
00:41:58.20\00:42:00.78
you know, these
people come to my mind,
00:42:00.81\00:42:02.23
I carry them with me.
00:42:02.26\00:42:03.33
Yes. And try to find ways--
00:42:03.36\00:42:06.14
Shelley and I
have tried to find ways
00:42:06.17\00:42:07.88
to curve out a place in our
lives for the care of the poor.
00:42:07.91\00:42:12.01
It's sort of
like you have to set
00:42:12.04\00:42:13.90
a place for them at your
table, otherwise life goes on
00:42:13.93\00:42:17.86
and you miss the opportunity
to do the good things
00:42:17.89\00:42:19.89
that you could with your life
00:42:19.92\00:42:21.40
and try to bless
people with your life.
00:42:21.43\00:42:24.53
I think that stepping
into this kind of a life
00:42:24.56\00:42:26.77
is an opportunity to really
00:42:26.80\00:42:27.86
try to understand
God's heart for the poor
00:42:27.89\00:42:30.00
and why they are so dear to Him?
00:42:30.03\00:42:32.16
And so and so doing
00:42:32.19\00:42:34.04
we have the opportunity
to experience God's heart
00:42:34.07\00:42:36.64
and we're
transformed in the process.
00:42:36.67\00:42:38.41
We don't do it just overseas
either and that's the thing
00:42:38.44\00:42:41.31
that maybe some of the viewers
will never have a chance.
00:42:41.34\00:42:43.66
Maybe they are
physically or financially unable
00:42:43.69\00:42:46.09
to ever take a trip
outside of their borders
00:42:46.12\00:42:48.54
or even get a passport.
00:42:48.57\00:42:50.24
But one of the
things that we do is,
00:42:50.27\00:42:51.98
we have a Friday
night dinner at our house
00:42:52.01\00:42:53.67
and we invite friends,
00:42:53.70\00:42:55.19
people that we gotten
to know in the community
00:42:55.22\00:42:57.10
and they are
gonna just lonely guys
00:42:57.13\00:43:00.14
and they are all
single and we feed them soup
00:43:00.17\00:43:04.04
and bread and ice cream,
00:43:04.07\00:43:05.59
every Friday
night that we're home.
00:43:05.62\00:43:07.12
Chance to eat homemade soup,
00:43:07.15\00:43:09.74
made by Shelley Bacon
is an opportunity like.
00:43:09.77\00:43:12.94
And it's such an
honor to serve them
00:43:12.97\00:43:15.14
and we have seen
their lives transformed
00:43:15.17\00:43:17.78
as a result of unconditional
love and everyone can do that.
00:43:17.81\00:43:20.25
And they are single guys,
00:43:20.28\00:43:21.31
they are just single
guys in the community.
00:43:21.34\00:43:22.54
Just some people that we've
met through different things
00:43:22.57\00:43:26.08
and some of them have come
to our meetings in the past
00:43:26.11\00:43:28.94
and we just wanted to
continue relationship.
00:43:28.97\00:43:31.53
And absolutely
no strings attached
00:43:31.56\00:43:33.17
and now they have
become Adventists,
00:43:33.20\00:43:34.99
but they have
seen unconditional love
00:43:35.02\00:43:37.18
and that's what
Jesus asked us to do.
00:43:37.21\00:43:39.12
What a neat thing to do.
00:43:39.15\00:43:40.24
Now you also told me
00:43:40.27\00:43:41.46
because you guys just
have a missionary spirit,
00:43:41.49\00:43:43.23
we can hear when we talk to.
00:43:43.26\00:43:44.43
Is it a bike trail?
00:43:44.46\00:43:47.09
Walk me through
that, that, I love that.
00:43:47.12\00:43:48.87
Some years back
Barry discovered that,
00:43:48.90\00:43:51.70
you know, we'd see cyclists,
00:43:51.73\00:43:53.01
distant cyclists
with all their bags
00:43:53.04\00:43:54.62
on their bikes
riding down our road.
00:43:54.65\00:43:56.99
We live five miles out
of town on a bunch of land
00:43:57.02\00:43:59.62
and, and he found
out from a patient
00:43:59.65\00:44:03.15
that we were on the bike
raft for adventure cycling's.
00:44:03.18\00:44:06.01
I wonder, we see so many people.
00:44:06.04\00:44:08.49
Then as we were thinking about
building a house upon our hill
00:44:08.52\00:44:11.76
which is a huge
place for minister.
00:44:11.79\00:44:13.91
We get to do fund raising
there and all kinds of things.
00:44:13.94\00:44:17.51
He said let's put, let's
put a bike hostel up there.
00:44:17.54\00:44:20.38
We said okay let's do that.
00:44:20.41\00:44:21.62
So we built, it helped us
get access with some state land
00:44:21.65\00:44:25.01
and we built a
four bedroom, two bath,
00:44:25.04\00:44:27.34
a little apartment that
we lived in for two years
00:44:27.37\00:44:29.66
while we were building the house
00:44:29.69\00:44:30.72
and we said to the state,
00:44:30.75\00:44:32.10
we'll put this
up there cyclists.
00:44:32.13\00:44:35.06
And when after we're done
using it, we'll open it up,
00:44:35.09\00:44:38.09
which is exactly what we did.
00:44:38.12\00:44:39.77
So it's been opened
for about five years now
00:44:39.80\00:44:42.03
and we have-- The first
year was only 15 cyclists
00:44:42.06\00:44:45.28
and then it went
up to 50 in last year,
00:44:45.31\00:44:46.80
89 cyclists came through
and signed our guest book
00:44:46.83\00:44:49.86
and stayed
overnight or sometimes two,
00:44:49.89\00:44:51.85
put a little pin on
their map on the wall
00:44:51.88\00:44:54.23
and get a taste of
what it means to say,
00:44:54.26\00:44:57.05
what we've is yours and we want
00:44:57.08\00:44:58.32
to share this
just because we can.
00:44:58.35\00:44:59.85
Wow. Powerful, powerful.
00:44:59.88\00:45:02.18
Shelley has a
gift of hospitality.
00:45:02.21\00:45:03.99
So she has opened up our home
00:45:04.02\00:45:05.32
to some more people
is just really wonderful.
00:45:05.35\00:45:07.01
Sometimes it is
our home as well,
00:45:07.04\00:45:08.30
'cause sometimes we
invite them over for dinner,
00:45:08.33\00:45:10.43
sometimes for ice
cream, sometimes--
00:45:10.46\00:45:12.20
One time we had another
group using that bike hostel
00:45:12.23\00:45:14.81
for a weekend
weeding at our neighbors
00:45:14.84\00:45:17.06
and someone you know called
ahead as they do and said,
00:45:17.09\00:45:19.55
we need a place to stay.
00:45:19.58\00:45:20.61
Well, we have an extra bedroom
in the house, come on over.
00:45:20.64\00:45:23.14
Yeah, this is so
exciting because it says
00:45:23.17\00:45:25.39
that if you have the
heart and the mindset,
00:45:25.42\00:45:27.39
you can do ministry.
00:45:27.42\00:45:28.66
And it doesn't have to
be in a foreign country.
00:45:28.69\00:45:30.32
It can be right
in your neighborhood,
00:45:30.35\00:45:31.46
right where you are,
00:45:31.49\00:45:32.99
there is ministry is all around.
00:45:33.02\00:45:34.55
Now let me ask you this
00:45:34.58\00:45:35.61
because you told me
you have four children.
00:45:35.64\00:45:38.34
You alluded to the
fact that one of them
00:45:38.37\00:45:40.28
is either married or is married.
00:45:40.31\00:45:42.70
Met her husband, okay.
So that burden is gone.
00:45:42.73\00:45:45.56
I'm calling it burden
because children take money.
00:45:45.59\00:45:49.04
What ages are
the three remaining?
00:45:49.07\00:45:51.72
Well, we have one that's 30,
00:45:51.75\00:45:53.48
one that's 25
and one's that's 22.
00:45:53.51\00:45:55.81
Okay.
00:45:55.84\00:45:57.01
If they are not gone,
they are on their way out.
00:45:57.04\00:45:58.32
Okay, so what
I'm saying is that,
00:45:58.35\00:46:00.24
now you have more
time to devote to ministry
00:46:00.27\00:46:02.25
because the child
rearing days are behind you
00:46:02.28\00:46:06.00
or about to be behind you.
00:46:06.03\00:46:07.42
So now you can kind
of concentrate on doing--
00:46:07.45\00:46:11.66
What is in your heart to do?
00:46:11.69\00:46:12.97
Next chapter,
yeah. Yeah, the next--
00:46:13.00\00:46:14.48
We do have some pretty
significant responsibilities
00:46:14.51\00:46:16.61
still with some of the kids,
00:46:16.64\00:46:18.36
but that is, it is
still on the way out.
00:46:18.39\00:46:21.72
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's more rearview mirror
00:46:21.75\00:46:24.11
than in the
windshield, so yeah, yeah.
00:46:24.14\00:46:26.17
What's in your heart as
far as, but I want to get to--
00:46:26.20\00:46:31.78
as far as the
long-term development
00:46:31.81\00:46:33.60
of this Africa project in Kenya?
00:46:33.63\00:46:36.47
There's so much
more that we like do.
00:46:36.50\00:46:38.10
We've shown some pictures of
the women's income generation
00:46:38.13\00:46:42.17
and the hospital support.
00:46:42.20\00:46:43.70
There are other facets that
are still kind of in the works.
00:46:43.73\00:46:46.14
The orphans still
need our attention.
00:46:46.17\00:46:48.31
We put up a structure for them.
00:46:48.34\00:46:50.46
It's a brand new structure,
00:46:50.49\00:46:51.69
we were able to
complete that this year
00:46:51.72\00:46:53.54
and that's an orphan shelter.
00:46:53.57\00:46:55.52
This is, we're looking at now?
That's right, that's correct.
00:46:55.55\00:46:58.43
So that was the structure
we were able to complete.
00:46:58.46\00:47:00.41
There's water development
that we need to put in.
00:47:00.44\00:47:02.03
We're trying to find partners
who are working in the area
00:47:02.06\00:47:04.26
to put in water for the Pokot's.
00:47:04.29\00:47:06.56
Water for their--
for human consumption
00:47:06.59\00:47:09.13
as well as for their livestock
00:47:09.16\00:47:10.70
and we'd like to
also develop agriculture.
00:47:10.73\00:47:13.40
Their food opportunities
are so very limited out
00:47:13.43\00:47:16.95
in the desert area
00:47:16.99\00:47:18.18
and yet we're convinced
that the ground is fertile
00:47:18.21\00:47:21.37
and we could grow crops.
00:47:21.40\00:47:22.97
Mangoes, papayas, citrus
trees grow well in this--
00:47:23.00\00:47:26.68
There sun all
the time of course.
00:47:26.71\00:47:28.03
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:47:28.06\00:47:29.29
Yeah, so we've plenty
of sun, we just need water.
00:47:29.32\00:47:32.55
So we've talked
to chiefs and said,
00:47:32.58\00:47:35.42
would you be willing
to let us put in a ram,
00:47:35.45\00:47:37.14
couple of ram
pumps down in the river.
00:47:37.17\00:47:38.58
There's a river upstream
from where the salty waterfall
00:47:38.61\00:47:42.57
flows into the
river, that water is fresh
00:47:42.60\00:47:45.39
and we could
irrigate from the river
00:47:45.42\00:47:47.52
probably and
develop a garden project.
00:47:47.55\00:47:50.10
But we think the water is fresh.
00:47:50.13\00:47:51.20
We bought back
a-- Oh, you tasted it.
00:47:51.23\00:47:53.06
Yeah, we tasted it.
We brought back samples.
00:47:53.09\00:47:54.50
We have been able to
afford to get the samples
00:47:54.53\00:47:57.16
adequately tested
yet, another project.
00:47:57.19\00:47:59.69
But we did taste it.
00:47:59.72\00:48:01.78
So we have a
number of technical issues
00:48:01.81\00:48:03.48
that we need to work around,
00:48:03.51\00:48:05.25
but a lot of is just
developing some of the resources
00:48:05.28\00:48:07.37
that are there and
helping people to come together.
00:48:07.40\00:48:11.84
The Pokot's
needs the opportunity
00:48:11.87\00:48:13.80
because they are impoverished
because of their remoteness.
00:48:13.83\00:48:16.59
The opportunity for their
children to have education.
00:48:16.62\00:48:18.95
They need primary healthcare.
They need to hear the gospel.
00:48:18.98\00:48:21.75
We want to put a structure out
in the remote areas of Akoret
00:48:21.78\00:48:25.57
or where the Pokot's live.
00:48:25.60\00:48:27.35
A structure that can be
used for multiple purposes,
00:48:27.38\00:48:30.45
primary
healthcare, adult education,
00:48:30.48\00:48:32.85
showing of the gospel.
00:48:32.88\00:48:34.27
We think that
will create community
00:48:34.30\00:48:36.53
and it will
bring about the peace
00:48:36.56\00:48:38.12
that we're looking for,
once that is in the works.
00:48:38.15\00:48:41.74
We want to show a
couple of other pictures
00:48:41.77\00:48:43.58
of the remote
clinic sites as well.
00:48:43.61\00:48:47.72
So these are,
these are great pictures
00:48:47.75\00:48:50.23
of what we're dong out
in the very remote areas.
00:48:50.26\00:48:53.85
So this is a clinic?
00:48:53.88\00:48:55.85
This is a clinic that we
just set up under the trees,
00:48:55.88\00:48:58.29
under the scrublands and
you can tell by the faces
00:48:58.32\00:49:01.50
of these people how
difficult their lives are.
00:49:01.53\00:49:05.22
These people work very hard
00:49:05.25\00:49:06.39
and the age very
early in their lives.
00:49:06.42\00:49:08.47
So you can also see joy
00:49:08.50\00:49:09.76
that's written on
these peoples face
00:49:09.79\00:49:11.60
and this is an
opportunity to share the gospel.
00:49:11.63\00:49:13.75
Yeah.
00:49:13.78\00:49:15.26
These women, when we
were leaving the area
00:49:15.29\00:49:17.54
they began to sing
this beautiful song for us
00:49:17.57\00:49:19.76
and clap their hands for us
00:49:19.79\00:49:21.41
and they were
singing the song that's said,
00:49:21.44\00:49:23.72
"God bless you, our guests.
00:49:23.75\00:49:26.64
You have come in
peace, now go in peace."
00:49:26.67\00:49:28.96
Wonderful experience. Yeah.
00:49:28.99\00:49:31.00
They have been a lot of people
00:49:31.03\00:49:32.07
that have been
able to come along side
00:49:32.10\00:49:33.65
as in some of
these projects as well.
00:49:33.68\00:49:36.97
Again, not
everyone can go themselves
00:49:37.00\00:49:39.67
but every year we
have a fundraiser,
00:49:39.70\00:49:42.09
we call it "Music on the
Menu" and we have a large home
00:49:42.12\00:49:45.77
that can
accommodate a lot of people
00:49:45.80\00:49:47.39
and it was built for
that purpose to do so.
00:49:47.42\00:49:50.54
We have the Upper Columbia
Academy in choir leaders
00:49:50.57\00:49:53.32
who have come each year.
00:49:53.35\00:49:55.28
They provide the music.
00:49:55.31\00:49:56.69
The music is listed on the menu.
00:49:56.72\00:49:58.35
The food is free and that's
the regular standard fare.
00:49:58.38\00:50:01.68
We have our local rental
place that donates the rental
00:50:01.71\00:50:04.39
of all the tables
and chairs for our place,
00:50:04.42\00:50:06.37
we have the furniture,
00:50:06.40\00:50:07.43
it become the nicest
restaurant in town for 24 hours.
00:50:07.46\00:50:10.58
And the people come
and the napkins are folding
00:50:10.61\00:50:12.42
and everything's
in readiness for them.
00:50:12.45\00:50:14.23
And then they look at the menu
00:50:14.26\00:50:15.45
and for every
donation of $100 or more,
00:50:15.48\00:50:17.75
they chose the
song from the menu.
00:50:17.78\00:50:19.96
So we call it
"Music on the Menu."
00:50:19.99\00:50:22.03
And we've been able to
raise up to $6,000 in a night.
00:50:22.06\00:50:24.50
And, you know,
00:50:24.53\00:50:25.77
we're just a little
people in a little town
00:50:25.80\00:50:27.80
and 5,000 people in our town
00:50:27.83\00:50:29.73
and economically depressed area,
00:50:29.76\00:50:32.14
and yet but people come
00:50:32.17\00:50:33.38
and they want to
become a part in this way.
00:50:33.41\00:50:35.84
So they feel what you're
doing. Let me ask you this.
00:50:35.87\00:50:37.91
What is your relationship like,
00:50:37.94\00:50:39.33
with the local
conference there in Kenya?
00:50:39.36\00:50:41.68
Are they in full
support of what you're doing?
00:50:41.71\00:50:44.14
We met with them
on this last trip.
00:50:44.17\00:50:46.94
They invited us to come
00:50:46.97\00:50:48.00
and just have a
brief meeting with them
00:50:48.03\00:50:49.40
so that we could explain to them
00:50:49.43\00:50:51.06
what we're working
on and the projects.
00:50:51.09\00:50:53.26
Pastor Jacob
Beles the lay pastor
00:50:53.29\00:50:55.80
that we've been working with,
brought us and introduced us
00:50:55.83\00:50:57.89
to the leadership there in
the Central Kenya Conference.
00:50:57.92\00:51:01.83
They were
delighted with our work.
00:51:01.86\00:51:03.00
They invite us,
please stop here,
00:51:03.03\00:51:04.60
every time you come though,
please we want to talk to you,
00:51:04.63\00:51:06.73
we want to see
how things are going,
00:51:06.76\00:51:08.25
very
interested, very supportive,
00:51:08.28\00:51:10.86
although they don't have
financial support to offer us,
00:51:10.89\00:51:13.25
they welcome us as
part of their work.
00:51:13.28\00:51:16.62
And the trip before
we also met with them
00:51:16.65\00:51:18.04
in a different
location, remember?
00:51:18.07\00:51:19.58
Yes, we do.
00:51:19.61\00:51:20.86
So the last two trips
we met with the conference
00:51:20.89\00:51:23.82
and in fact it's a brand new
conference if I'm not mistaken.
00:51:23.85\00:51:26.09
Yes, yes, and the
Karura is the headquarters now
00:51:26.12\00:51:27.66
for the new conference
00:51:27.69\00:51:29.12
where they have
re-designated the conference.
00:51:29.15\00:51:31.33
Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
00:51:31.36\00:51:33.76
This is-- I'm almost speechless
00:51:33.79\00:51:37.89
because there
are so many facets.
00:51:37.92\00:51:39.67
A man and woman
decide they wanted to help
00:51:39.70\00:51:42.68
and then it's like when
you're trying to remodel house
00:51:42.71\00:51:45.29
and you take down the wall,
00:51:45.32\00:51:46.35
you found all boarders
more work here than I thought.
00:51:46.38\00:51:48.98
And it's growing and
growing and growing and growing.
00:51:49.01\00:51:51.79
In a moment or
two we're going to go
00:51:51.82\00:51:53.69
to their contact information.
00:51:53.72\00:51:55.97
We've tried to
highlight some of the needs.
00:51:56.00\00:51:59.00
One, they are gonna
need something better
00:51:59.03\00:52:00.35
help them with that,
that hydroelectric deal.
00:52:00.38\00:52:03.57
And if you of anyone or if you,
00:52:03.60\00:52:05.91
yourself have those
kinds of abilities--
00:52:05.94\00:52:09.62
This is a great
mission opportunity
00:52:09.65\00:52:11.79
because the train of things
that will spring from them
00:52:11.82\00:52:15.00
getting electricity there
is, is almost without end.
00:52:15.03\00:52:18.16
We've talked about some of them,
00:52:18.19\00:52:19.23
so that's number One.
00:52:19.26\00:52:20.53
Two, financial support for
the multiplicity of projects
00:52:20.56\00:52:25.99
that are going
to be taking place.
00:52:26.02\00:52:28.33
And if you're just a preacher,
teacher you want to go over
00:52:28.36\00:52:30.49
and just lift up
the light of Jesus,
00:52:30.52\00:52:31.98
they can use that too.
00:52:32.01\00:52:33.58
You've got a lot of
young people without parents.
00:52:33.61\00:52:36.42
There are so many
facets to this ministry
00:52:36.45\00:52:39.08
and this is really,
I don't want to say,
00:52:39.11\00:52:41.46
more than two people can handle,
00:52:41.49\00:52:42.55
but many hands
make the burden light.
00:52:42.58\00:52:45.19
And should you want to
help in this really wonderful--
00:52:45.22\00:52:49.69
Are you 501C3?
00:52:49.72\00:52:51.85
We work through our
local church actually.
00:52:51.88\00:52:54.33
So people can make contributions
00:52:54.36\00:52:55.71
to the Colville
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
00:52:55.74\00:52:58.09
it is designated
for the Africa project.
00:52:58.12\00:53:00.11
And then you can get
your tax deduction for that.
00:53:00.14\00:53:04.38
If you heard anything to
say that has moved your heart
00:53:04.41\00:53:06.60
and Holy Spirit
is working upon you,
00:53:06.63\00:53:08.39
here is the contact information
that you're gonna need.
00:53:08.42\00:53:13.10
If you would like to
support this ministry
00:53:13.13\00:53:14.98
or learn more about it
00:53:15.01\00:53:16.38
then you can write
to Dr. Barry Bacon,
00:53:16.41\00:53:18.92
570 Hotchkiss Road,
Colville, Washington 99114.
00:53:18.95\00:53:24.18
That's Dr. Barry Bacon,
00:53:24.21\00:53:25.96
570 Hotchkiss Road,
Colville, Washington 99114.
00:53:25.99\00:53:31.31
You can email him
at baconbarry@juno.com.
00:53:31.34\00:53:35.50
That's baconbarry@juno.com.
00:53:35.53\00:53:39.28
Or visit them online for
stories, projects and more
00:53:39.31\00:53:42.82
at pokotturkana
peaceinitiative.com.
00:53:42.85\00:53:50.82