Participants: Danny Shelton (Host), Jim Burr
Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY014100A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my words 00:29 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:06 Hello, and welcome to another "3ABN today program." 01:10 I am so blessed today. 01:11 We're so blessed to have Brother Jim Berg. 01:14 Jim, it's good to have you here. 01:15 Good to be here, Danny. 01:16 And you're the president of Heaven's Declare. 01:19 I like that incorporated, Heaven's Declare. 01:22 I will tell this, Jim is one of my 01:23 favorite people to come here. 01:25 I'll tell you why. 01:26 He's one of the most interesting individuals 01:29 you'll ever meet and very balanced. 01:32 Just that one plane ride I had with you 01:34 couple of years ago, 01:35 somewhere from ASI we sat by each other. 01:37 I said, I could listen this guy because I learned so much. 01:41 And Jim is very balanced and I love that about. 01:44 Now that as you know Jim, 01:45 we got people gone off this side of boat 01:47 and fallen out over here so to find somebody did it, 01:51 that it's solid, it's straight down in the middle, 01:54 it's balanced and got common sense. 01:57 You know, so I find it a blessing today, 01:59 to have you here and the knowledge that 02:01 you have gained over many, many years of studying the universe, 02:06 the stars and I mean the astronomy. 02:08 This is-- 02:10 This is something that you've been doing 02:12 from many, many years. 02:13 Did this start, it started out as a hobby? 02:15 Yes, that's right. 02:17 I think we started 3ABN about 27 year -- 02:19 21 years ago and we did 16 programs 02:21 and Christian concerns. 02:23 We'll have our programs on astronomy starting-- 02:25 I think 94 or something like that. 02:27 Now it's been a long time, hasn't it? 02:29 Yeah. 02:30 And this thing has just grown and grown 02:31 but the communications and the-- 02:36 That has developed so much 02:38 in the last 27 years from the time you came, 02:42 we know so much more than we knew back then, right. 02:45 That's right. 02:46 Talk about Daniel says, the last events we be rapid, 02:50 you know, men run to and fro knowledge shall be increased. 02:53 And this gonna be a great program. 02:55 We actually have some videos 02:56 from the Hubble or what is it called? 02:58 Yeah, we have some clips from the Hubble. 02:59 Some video clips we got some pictures. 03:01 We're gonna talk about God's great universe. 03:04 Reminds me that song, 03:05 "How big is God, how big and wide is His vast domain, 03:08 To try to tell these lips can only start, 03:11 He's big enough to rule the mighty universe, 03:13 but most importantly He is small enough 03:15 to live within our hearts." 03:17 We serve a great big wonderful God. 03:20 Today we have some special music 03:23 and talk about favorite people 03:25 this is also one of my favorite people 03:26 and singers here today Margie Salcedo-Rice 03:30 and she is gonna be doing a medley about heaven. 03:48 There's a land that is fairer than day 03:54 And by faith we shall see it afar 04:01 For the father waits over the way 04:07 To prepare us a dwelling place there 04:14 In the sweet by and by 04:21 We shall meet on that beautiful shore 04:28 In the sweet by and by 04:34 We shall meet on that beautiful shore 04:41 In the sweet by and by 04:48 We shall meet on that beautiful shore 04:54 In the sweet by and by 05:01 We shall meet on that beautiful shore 05:08 By and by 05:11 When the morning comes 05:13 When the saints of 05:16 God are gathered home 05:19 We shall tell the story 05:22 How we've overcome 05:25 We'll understand it better 05:27 By and by 05:30 We'll understand it better 05:33 By and by 05:38 On that resurrection morning 05:40 When the trump of God shall sound 05:42 We shall rise, we shall rise 05:47 Then the saints will come rejoicing 05:49 And no tears will e'er be found 05:51 We shall rise, we shall rise 05:56 We shall rise, Hallelujah! We shall rise! 05:59 Amen! We shall rise! 06:02 On that resurrection morning 06:05 When the prison bars are broken 06:07 We shall rise, we shall rise 06:48 We shall rise, Hallelujah! 06:51 We shall rise! 06:56 Oh, face to face I shall behold Him 07:03 Far beyond the starry sky 07:10 Oh, face to face in all His glory 07:18 I shall see Him 07:20 By and by 07:25 Oh, face to face I shall behold Him 07:33 Far beyond the starry sky 07:40 Oh, face to face in all His glory 07:47 I shall see Him by and by 07:55 By, I shall see Him 08:03 Face to face 08:14 To face 08:21 Amen. Thank you, Margie. 08:22 That's a toe tapper, that's a happy song. 08:25 And when we are talking about Saint Jesus face to face, 08:28 rightfully it should be but I've found out 08:30 something about her today. 08:31 I've always thought her as violinist 08:33 but I found out she got little country in her 08:35 because she is fiddling today. 08:36 There is difference, if you don't know 08:38 you have t stick around and listen little bit. 08:40 There's a difference between a fiddling, 08:42 when you're fiddling or when you're playing a violin 08:45 but she can do both. 08:46 Thank you so much for your music 08:48 and your dedication to the Lord. 08:49 Again my guest today, our guest today 08:51 is Brother Jim Berg. 08:53 Jim, once again it's great to have you here 08:55 and I don't want to take up anymore time. 08:57 I want to give you the other 45 minutes 08:59 or so that's left because you have 09:01 some incredible information for us today. 09:03 Well, praise the Lord. 09:05 You know, I thought it would be good for us 09:06 to get everybody on the same page. 09:08 You've probably seen this before. 09:09 And the first picture is gonna show us 09:10 how small the Earth is, compared to the sun. 09:13 And you see at tiny little spec, 09:15 we could put million Earths inside the sun. 09:18 And our sun is just kind of an average star. 09:21 It's nothing really big or special about it. 09:23 That little bead that one says Earth right that? 09:25 Yeah, in the corner. There it is. 09:26 You can compare to the sun. 09:28 Now let's look at one of the biggest-- 09:29 the biggest star we know about 09:31 and the next picture is Canis Majoris 09:33 and there you see our sun compared to Canis Majoris. 09:35 Now how small will Earth be on that picture. 09:38 You wouldn't be able to see it with naked eye. 09:39 You can put a pin on the screen 09:41 and say that's how big our Earth is. 09:43 So it helps us realize we're not really 09:45 at the centre of the universe. 09:47 No, mercy. 09:49 But yet, sometimes people say 09:50 oh, I feel so small after I sit through 09:52 one of your programs and this one interesting 09:54 "Desire of Ages" says in page 668. 09:57 It says, "The Lord is disappointed 09:59 when His people place a low estimate upon themselves." 10:02 If the cross tells it's how valuable we are to God 10:05 and He desire His chosen heritage 10:07 to value themselves according to the price 10:09 He is placed upon us. 10:11 Wow. 10:12 So that kind of puts things in perspective. 10:14 Now we got some new incredible footage 10:16 from the Hubble Space Telescope. 10:19 We have in our Milky Way galaxy, 10:21 you know, 200 maybe it depending on 10:23 which book you read. 10:25 We're gonna zoom in 10:26 on a cluster of 10 million stars. 10:28 Ten million? 10:29 There is 10 million, this is the Omega star cluster, 10:32 the Hubble is zooming in 10:33 and when it switches the color now you're gonna see 10:36 the new color camera $125 million camera 10:39 but it's gonna show you how these stars are gonna move 10:41 in the next 10, 000 years. 10:44 It plotted those for four years 10:46 and here is how they are going over the next 10,000 years. 10:49 Now they are not just on a wall. 10:51 They are going in three dimensions 10:53 in every different direction. 10:54 And they are taking planets with them 10:57 and you don't see any crashing into each other, 11:00 I mean, it's just amazing. 11:01 Those are just blazing suns like our sun. 11:03 Our sun puts out four million tons 11:05 of mass every second, its emitting four million tons. 11:09 And so when you see all those stars moving 11:11 in all these different directions 11:12 they're also taking planets with them. 11:14 They're traveling an average of ten-- 11:17 tens of actually, tens of thousands of miles 11:19 an hour in every direction 11:21 and the interesting thing is Jupiter moves 11:26 our Sun a half a million miles, 500,000 miles. 11:29 When Jupiter goes around our Sun, 11:31 it moves the Sun off center, 500, 000 miles. 11:36 When your kids are little you swing them in a circle 11:37 you know, when they get bigger pretty soon 11:39 they are swinging you, right. 11:40 Okay. 11:41 Well, Jupiter swings it off 11:43 500, 000 miles and what is interesting 11:46 I attended a lecture on gravity form the University of Oklahoma 11:49 and this professor said that, when you have three Jupiter, 11:54 we got two Jupiter and the moon, 11:55 when you three bodies of different sizes 11:58 there is no mathematician on Earth 12:00 that can give you a formula for the center of those three. 12:04 It can't be done, 12:05 and when I got back home I emailed him. 12:08 I said, professor, before I repeat that in the public, 12:10 did I hear you correctly? 12:13 I got choked up when he said that 12:16 because I've been showing audiences these stars going 12:19 and I realize we got 100 billion. 12:22 In our Milky Way galaxy, 12:23 and God got it all figured out and we can't figure out three. 12:27 He said yes, he said, Google three body problems says, 12:31 Isaac Newton for 330 years, we have not been able to come 12:36 for formula give you the centre of rotation. 12:37 Now he said, we can get close, 12:40 we can simulate it on a computer 12:41 but there is nobody been able to write a formula 12:43 for the exact center of rotation of three. 12:45 Now what's incredible, 12:46 we have another clip coming up in just a little bit 12:49 and it's gonna show you 12:50 how our sun is going 45, 000 miles an hour. 12:54 I mean, we got so many different motions 12:55 taking the planets with it. 12:57 And so here you see all the planets 12:59 going around the sun 13:01 that outer one there is probably Pluto, 13:03 it takes Pluto 247 years for Pluto to go around the sun. 13:07 It's traveling at 10,600 miles an hour. 13:09 But you can see Saturn and Jupiter 13:11 there orbiting the sun traveling through space. 13:15 So when you think of that other previous clip 13:17 where we had all these stars going in different directions, 13:20 realize they're all doing this 13:22 probably with planets in every different directions. 13:24 What a God we serve? 13:26 What a God? 13:28 We can't figure out three, 13:29 what if we had to try to figure out four? 13:32 Is that an incredible clip? 13:33 Oh, it's absolutely, mind boggling. 13:35 This was done in Holland by a gentleman 13:39 and he gave his permission to use 13:41 this clip with his blessing. 13:43 Now there is one other motion it's missing there. 13:45 You remember I told you 13:46 the sun is moving 500, 000 miles an hour, 13:48 so we should actually see that sun wobbling 13:52 and we are wobbling with it. 13:53 Oh, my. 13:54 You know, so it's in-- this incredible 13:58 what a God we serve. 14:00 It overwhelmed you really. 14:03 We're going to, the next picture 14:05 we're gonna show is Saturn. 14:07 We've shown this before but, it's one of my favorite 14:09 because there is the Earth from one billion miles away 14:13 and this was taken by the Cassini Spacecraft, 14:15 the Cassini traveled, 14:17 it took seven years to get there, 14:18 they flew it through 14:19 the F and G ring fire, the rockets 14:21 and its now the sun is right behind the planet, 14:24 you see the sunbeams, the rays coming out. 14:27 The sun is right behind it, 14:28 now see that arrow pointing to our Earth. 14:31 And we-- That's Earth? 14:32 That's Earth, that little spec. 14:33 Yeah, I can hardly see it. 14:35 We talked about this before, 14:37 but something is occurred to me you know, 14:41 when Christ was tempted-- the Bible tells us, 14:45 Jesus says, all powers given me in heaven and Earth. 14:47 We look at this all these stars 14:49 and all these galaxies and Jesus said, 14:51 all power is given to me and yet Satan tempted Him 14:53 and said, I will give You all this glory, 14:56 that little spec. 14:58 I don't think Jesus was surprised. 15:01 You know, I never thought about that before, absolutely, 15:04 I give you the whole Earth and then you say, 15:06 the whole Earth you can't even see it, 15:07 it really compare to the universe. 15:09 Yes, I don't think was He impress, 15:11 He was that impressed in another thing. 15:12 Is there more that we haven't seen? 15:15 Well, we can look out about-- 15:18 They say 13.7 billion light-years away. 15:22 That's about as far as we can which you know, 15:25 I don't believe in the Big Bang. 15:26 In fact, I did a series, 15:28 I did 40 some programs on Loma Linda, 15:30 "The Hubble, The Bible, The Big Bang" 15:32 and form that at least a few people thought 15:34 I believe in the Big Bang. 15:37 And I change the title "The Hubble, The Bible 15:40 and The Big Bang that Never Happened." 15:42 Or-- 15:44 Well, I always thought of Big Bang 15:46 but not maybe the one that they thing. 15:48 When Lord said, let them rely, 15:50 when the Lord spoke and things happened, 15:52 I got a feeling it was great power. 15:55 Yes. Bang. 15:56 But it wouldn't be just something out there doing. 15:59 When God speaks it's powerful, it happens. 16:01 I need to be clear, 16:03 I don't believe in the Big Bang. 16:04 That what I think about that picture again 16:06 that little spec, I think of one other illustration 16:08 and that is Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel 4:30 16:11 he is walking on the roof the palace, 16:13 he is probably got suspenders 16:15 and he gone wow, isn't this the great Babylon I have built? 16:18 I like to get Nebuchadnezzar right in the space, 16:21 in the Cassini Spacecraft and give him binoculars 16:24 and then Nebuchadnezzar can go where? 16:27 Where is this great Babylon I've built? 16:29 Yeah, not even outside know universe the first-- 16:32 Kind a puts things in perspective. 16:34 Wow. 16:35 You know, Psalm 33:8, 9 says, 16:36 "By the word of the LORD were the heavens made." 16:39 You know the power of God created the heavens, 16:43 and Isaac would agree with that, 16:46 the equivalence of mass and energy, 16:48 mass and energy God's got this incredible energies, 16:51 incredible power which is this mass, 16:53 this is matter and Einstein says 16:55 it's the equivalence of mass and energy 16:57 God could speak 16:58 and put power in and create matter. 17:02 I talked to a Russian scientist not too long ago 17:06 and I ask him if he believed in God? 17:10 And he said, he didn't use, but the more he learns 17:14 and the more he sees 17:16 and with all these incredible technology 17:19 he said, I will say there must a designer. 17:23 I don't know, he doesn't know about Jesus for sure, 17:25 he doesn't know about all the things 17:27 but he says, it's just could not have happen by coincidence, 17:31 there must be a master designer. 17:36 There is something pretty amazing 17:37 that doesn't have to with the astronomy, 17:38 but it does have to do 17:39 with the Creator and an atheist. 17:41 Dr. John Sanford, who is a geneticist, 17:45 he has 32 patterns in the field of genes. 17:48 He invented the gene gun, 17:50 he sold his last company and then he is said, 17:51 I'm gonna do what I'm interested in 17:53 and he started looking at human reproduction 17:55 and he says, every child of that 17:57 who is running downhill from the parents, gene pool 18:01 and we loose one to three percent. 18:05 In fact, Adam lived 960 years, we're not living 96, 18:08 he must have had pretty good gene pool. 18:10 Dr. John say, he was an atheist, 18:12 an evolution an atheist, 18:14 and so he started looking at the research 18:15 and discovered that every generation looses 18:17 one to three percent. 18:19 He started running that back 18:20 and he said, when you get back to Adam, 18:22 Adam would had a perfect gene pool, 18:25 you didn't come from a monkey billions years ago, 18:27 because of research and then he said, 18:29 in 100 generations Earth will be depopulated, 18:32 there will be nobody on Earth 18:33 because of this passing on 18:36 we have 100 million billion body cells 18:39 that have to duplicate themselves. 18:41 If we loose one to three percent 18:43 and 100 years there will be nobody on Earth. 18:45 You know what, God show this to the lady 120 years ago 18:48 in councils in the chapter 18:51 the "Violation of Physical Laws" 18:52 and "Councils on Health." 18:54 She said, what he-- she verified 18:55 what he discovered in the lab it is amazing 18:58 and she says, the present 18:59 and feeble condition of the human family 19:02 was presented before me 19:03 every generations been growing weaker 19:06 and disease of every form afflicts the race. 19:09 Had Adam originally, had your gene pool 19:11 there be nobody on Earth today. 19:12 Yeah. 19:13 And she says, vital four, she doesn't use gene pool. 19:15 But there be nobody. 19:17 She said, if Adam is started out 19:18 where we are today there be nobody on Earth 19:20 and she says, through success of generations 19:24 after the fall the tendency is been continually down 19:26 where disease has been transmitted 19:28 from parents to children, generation after generation. 19:31 If the Lord should not soon come 19:34 and destroy Satan's power, the Lord will be-- 19:38 the Earth would be depopulated. 19:40 And here what Dr. Sanford discovere 19:41 in the lab was told 120 years of basically the same thing, 19:45 if Adam had your gene pool nobody on Earth today 19:47 and in the future, 19:48 if God doesn't destroy Satan's power 19:49 there will be nobody on Earth, just amazing stuff. 19:52 That is. 19:54 And Isaiah 55 it says, 19:55 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts," 19:57 it's going back to the all these stars moving, 19:59 this fits, "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, 20:03 nor My ways your ways," says the Lord, 20:05 "for as the heavens are higher than the Earth 20:07 so are My ways higher than your ways. 20:10 And My thoughts and your thoughts." 20:11 How high that last galaxy 13.7 billion years, 20:14 that's how much higher God's thoughts 20:16 are than our thoughts. 20:17 We have another picture of Saturn, 20:19 this is kind of interesting one 20:20 because somebody did some artwork and said, 20:23 if Saturn was placed where our moon is 20:25 that what you'd see when you look outside. 20:29 The Bible says, "Eye has not seen, 20:31 nor ear heard, has not even entered 20:33 into the heart of man the things 20:35 which God has prepared for those who love Him." 20:37 That's kind of-- they did one of Saturn as well. 20:41 Okay, we got some new stuff. 20:42 We've talked about this before 20:44 but we got something brand new this year. 20:46 Okay, the penny, the energy in, 20:48 if the God put the atom in there so powerful 20:51 that Atom is so powerful if you could fuse the atom 20:55 in a penny would be equal 20:56 the 2.2 million gallons of gasoline. 20:59 That is the power there, a 17 times 21:01 more powerful than our nuclear reactors. 21:02 What is in the penny? 21:04 To run San Francisco for one year 21:06 takes 21 million box carts of coal, 21:08 if we could release like what happens on our sun. 21:12 The fusion process, we could run San Francisco 21:15 on 500 gallons of seawater for year. 21:17 500 gallon-- there is so much power 21:19 in that atom 500 gallons 21:20 of seawater replace 21 million boxcars of coal. 21:25 So we're trying to create a sun on Earth. 21:27 Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, 21:29 they have a recipe for making a sun. 21:31 Really? 21:32 This is a laser, okay, this a laser. 21:35 They're taking a hundred-- 21:36 I mean, we got a lasers 21:37 will cut through steel like that. 21:39 But they're amplifying these lasers 100-- 21:42 they will take 192 and amplify them 21:44 at one quadrillion times, 21:46 they have to feed each laser through 21:48 one mile of tubes to amply it and then they're focusing them 21:51 on the little capsule, a little capsule, 21:54 192 lasers focus on this capsule of heavy hydrogen, 21:58 it's a seawater basic called lithium. 22:02 So they are firing and they're actually, 22:04 have now in February they have actually heated 22:06 this the temperature of the core of sun, 22:08 50 million degrees C and they got-- 22:10 they prove the sun works, they put in 10, 000 joules 22:14 and they got 17, 000 joules out. 22:17 This a 50 year project, 100 of suns that 22:19 we can solve our energy problem. 22:21 The sun is so incredible, just cries out that, 22:23 this going for billions of years, 22:25 you know if it was made out of coal, 22:26 be gone and 5, 000 years. 22:28 Yeah. 22:29 So, in February of 2014 this year, 22:33 they got a gain of about 70 percent gain 22:36 coming out of that thing, okay. 22:38 That they only could fire it, 22:39 then only the lasers on for 20 trillions of a second, 22:44 you want to melt California off the map, 22:46 but they in that 20 trillions, 22:47 they heated this thing to the temperature 22:50 the core of the sun 50 million degrees C, 22:52 and they got more out and they put in. 22:54 Now what's interesting, remember what I said, 22:58 that they had to have 192 miles of tubes to amplify? 23:03 Okay, they got a 7,000 joule gain, 23:05 they put in 10, 000 they 17 out, 23:08 it took 500 trillion joules of energy 23:11 to heat those lasers to the temperature 23:13 of the core of the sun. 23:17 You know, if-- I don't know where my match is 23:20 but if we had-- I was like to strike a match 23:24 for the audience but, if we had that thing, 23:28 heat of the temperature of the core of the sun, 23:29 we'd be vapor bricks and all be gone, you know. 23:32 Wow. 23:35 So it took 500 trillion joules to get 7, 000 joule gain. 23:40 The Lord says, the Bible says, 23:42 "I'm the Lord that is My name, 23:44 I will not share My glory with anyone else." 23:45 Is that sun glorious out there? 23:47 Is that sun big? 23:48 Is that sun hot? Yeah. 23:50 Folks, this is the glory of man. 23:52 They heat a little capsule, 23:53 they bring it ahead of a match for 20 trillion of a second, 23:56 we have 2, 000 into the smartest scientist, 23:58 I mean, these are 2,000 scientists, 24:00 they have $20 billion to build 24:02 this facility to 50 year project, 24:05 you try to harvest the sun. 24:08 God did it and He says, 24:11 I will not share My glory with anyone else. 24:13 And there are so many other problems, 24:15 we have-- these people will say, 24:19 you know, on the sun everything was just right, 24:21 hydrogen gas was just right, the gravity is just right, 24:23 and pull that together and all of a sudden 24:24 we had the miracle of a sun, just happen. 24:27 We have 100 billions stars in the Milky Way galaxy, 24:30 100 billion times a hydrogen gas was just right, 24:32 the gravity is just right and spinning, collapsing, 24:34 condensing that heated through gravity 24:36 that pulls this gas together, where it hit 50 million degrees 24:38 and voila, we have proof a sun, okay. 24:41 And this is all we can do. 24:43 With 2,000 scientists, $20 billion, 24:46 this is what man's been able to do. 24:49 And they have a 100 billion in the Milky Way galaxy, 24:52 at 100 times everything was just right, 24:53 oh, we have a 100 billion galaxies. 24:55 What do you think all this knowledge 24:57 and it now there is a new, I heard the other day, 25:00 a new telescope it's gonna be-- 25:02 how many times, 100 times stronger than Hubble, 25:06 I'm not sure, it's supposed to be take us 25:10 into places we've never been. 25:12 What do you know about that? 25:14 Well, it's a James Webb telescope, it's been delayed, 25:17 I think it was probably four, five years late. 25:21 It is gonna reduce some spectacular stuff. 25:23 It's gonna be placed out in space a million miles, 25:26 we won't be able to go out there to fix it 25:27 or service it, it's out, like it was very cold, it's beyond. 25:32 So we have the sun and then we have the Earth 25:34 going around the sun, and there is a spot 25:37 where gravity is null called the Lagrange points, 25:40 there are these spots around like 25:41 between the Earth and the sun, 25:43 we have a null area where you can put a satellite, 25:45 it needs very little correction 25:47 because the gravity of both just kind a cancels. 25:49 Very little correction to keep it there 25:50 and so it's gonna be beyond the Earth. 25:53 And yeah, we can hardly wait, 25:54 it's gonna be still number of years 25:56 before they get it. 25:57 Amazing. 25:58 What is this do to all of their 26:00 starting back in 50s you know, 26:02 and this is an event in their life time. 26:04 You know, in our 50s they had know programs about 26:07 Marian Martians when you go 26:08 because you know, now this is how intelligent 26:10 we were for all these 1, 000s years of plant Earth. 26:14 So we said, well, there people that live 26:16 maybe you know, on Mars, and so there is Martians, 26:19 and then so you got all these UFO hunters 26:22 always looking for somebody but from what-- 26:25 Hubble can take us out how far away, 26:28 I mean, how many light years away 26:30 and we still not seeing any aliens out there, 26:33 I mean, that should be if I were a UFO hunter 26:36 and believing in aliens, 26:37 I would kind of start loosing my faith in it. 26:40 I thank when you, way I seen anything else out there. 26:44 I think there is increasing interest in aliens. 26:49 And I think Satan's gonna come-- 26:50 if you look at Great Controversy, 26:52 page 624 it says, soon marvelous things 26:55 in the heaven's are gonna happen 26:57 and she goes on and she said, the cry will go out, 26:59 Christ has come, Christ has come. 27:01 There is a very controversial thing, 27:03 there is a telescope looking for aliens savior. 27:07 This kind of controversy, I didn't know 27:09 if you bring it up or not? 27:10 It's called the Lucifer Telescope. 27:11 Oh, my, really? 27:12 And they believe, that in aliens 27:17 and that they would be more superior than man 27:19 because we're sinners 27:20 and then these aliens are gonna come 27:22 and they're going to reveal the Bible to us better 27:27 because they're closer to God, and they're more righteous 27:29 and more-- who believes this? 27:31 Well, there is a group of people? 27:33 You can look up. Okay. 27:34 You can look up, Lucifer Telescope. 27:36 Oh, my goodness, okay. 27:37 And they think that there is aliens gonna come, 27:40 and the aliens savior is coming, 27:41 if you read Great Controversy 624, you will see 27:44 where it talks about Satan, personating Christ. 27:46 False Christ it's gonna be. 27:47 So I think anything involve 27:49 with aliens has to do with Satan. 27:52 And I think the Star Wars all of these, 27:54 I think feed into that. 27:56 Prepare people for that. Absolutely. 27:57 When you turn on the television, 27:59 you can't even hardly watch it, 28:00 it's all about alien creatures and it's got worse and worse 28:04 and they are much more sophisticated 28:06 when you look at deal, Frankenstein deal, 28:08 and that went from there to finally 28:09 we went into you know, these other Martians 28:12 as I said earlier and all of these, 28:14 they were very and now they've got 28:16 all these sophisticated beings that come from all over 28:20 and spirits and ghost, and you name it. 28:22 That's what the media is portraying 28:25 and people have a tremendous-- 28:27 seem like they have a thirst to hear that junk. 28:30 I can use that word maybe you should just say, 28:32 garbage and be straight out with it. 28:36 When I lecturing usually I do about 100 pictures an hour, 28:40 and you say 12, okay? 28:42 I like to give you one really beautiful picture. 28:45 Here in the next picture coming up. 28:46 Isn't that a glorious picture? 28:47 Oh, it's not a Orion. 28:49 That's actually was actually by 12,000 light-years away, 28:54 it's about a 100 light-years across, 28:56 takes lights about 100 years across that area, 28:58 it's in the-- the light-years? 29:00 Its six trillion miles, so distance light 29:02 can travel in one year. 29:04 The six trillion miles. The six trillion miles. 29:05 Yeah. That is amazing. 29:07 And your automobile will take you about 8,000 years to-- 29:10 Yeah. 29:12 Travel that actually. Yeah. 29:14 If you want to see that picture, 29:16 you could click on our picture heavensdeclare.org 29:20 and you click on NASA picture of the day, 29:22 everyday on our website 29:23 we have a NASA picture of the day. 29:25 This happened to be you can go back to November 18, 29:27 November 18, 2014 29:30 and you can actually download that image is this. 29:31 And where is this? Where is this? 29:32 Well, it's in our Milky Way galaxy, 29:34 it's in the Tadpole Nebula. 29:36 Just put it back up again 29:37 if we can for our production that's incredible. 29:41 Isn't that incredible? Isn't that incredible? 29:43 That absolutely amazing. 29:44 But yeah, you can download 29:45 that picture printed out if you like. 29:47 Go to our website heavensdeclare.org 29:50 and you click on NASA picture of the day, 29:52 and you go down to the calendar 29:53 and click on November 18 and you will see, 29:56 may have got all the pictures there can go back. 29:58 If you don't believe that this was designed 30:01 what's your other options? 30:03 I mean, really you been into this so long as you said 30:07 all of this stuff could never happened, it's amazing. 30:10 I mean, when you think about showing the pictures of the sun 30:14 and pulling the planet and all these traveling 30:16 and none of these are crashing into each other, 30:19 I mean, that it's mind boggling to me. 30:23 So what is your options, if you sitting there 30:25 and say no, I don't believe in God is this-- 30:28 I mean, could this just have happened out of nowhere? 30:31 It couldn't have been yet, I think people are in-- 30:33 children have doctrinated young 30:35 and prepared for that 30:37 and they just buy the whole lie. 30:39 You know, they just buy the whole. 30:40 But on the other hand the question would be asked 30:43 how come God doesn't forget about us? 30:44 Look we're just a tiny spec 30:46 and we haven't found heaven yet, 30:48 it's apparently, further than is. 30:50 How come we be assured that God remembers us? 30:54 He knows the sparrow that falls, 30:56 and the hairs on your head and I believe it. 30:57 You know, we have so much evidence 30:59 they are just, so much evidence, 31:00 how can they not believe? 31:01 It seems like the evidence. 31:02 I mean, how do you get from a warm little pond 31:05 and an ameba to a mango? 31:08 You know, as a quite tree or an elephant 31:11 or a humming bird. 31:13 You know, or a bat that can fly-- 31:15 he has got radar, how do you evolve radar 31:17 from an ameba who can find a mosquito 31:19 in the dark with the radar system? 31:21 I mean, God is so good, 31:23 He gave us 20, 000 herbs and spices. 31:26 You know, if evolution was true 31:28 you'd be looking to be eaten down lines greens of-- 31:30 you know, or grass. 31:32 Twenty thousand and thousands of foods 31:34 there are just a goodness of God. 31:35 Moses said, let me see your glory, 31:37 and I will think of something spectacular like 31:39 that picture we saw and he says, 31:40 I'll make my goodness pass before you. 31:43 And the Romans have goodness of God 31:44 leads us to repentance. 31:46 Wow. 31:47 I want to show you a picture of an Orion. 31:50 Okay. 31:51 Okay, whenever I travel in evident circles 31:54 I'm often ask about Orion. 31:55 This is the Horsehead Nebula, 31:57 its right there at the bottom belt star. 31:59 Look at that bottom 32:00 half of the picture is a thick cloud. 32:02 Wow. 32:06 In Deuteronomy 5 and then in Exodus 19 32:10 God covered the whole mountain with the thick cloud, 32:12 with the glory, His brightness. 32:14 He had to cover the whole mountain three times, 32:16 one place He covered it with thick darkness. 32:19 If this New Jerusalem is the city of light, 32:20 where He have to put a cloud over that? 32:22 Absolutely. 32:23 Is that where we looking at? 32:24 Let's go back and take a look at that picture again. 32:26 That whole bottom half of the picture 32:29 is dark every book you read says. 32:31 These are dark-- Orion. 32:32 Yes, it's in Orion. 32:33 Its right at the bottom of belt star. 32:36 Every book you read say it dark dense of scaring clouds. 32:40 Now there is something else you need to look for, 32:43 if you there, that is just one little part of it. 32:49 That cloud if you will Google Barnard's Loop, 32:53 I couldn't get that picture to you here. 32:56 You will see a thick cloud with light coming out 32:59 around this whole cloud. 33:00 Could that be a thick cloud covering the New Jerusalem? 33:04 That cloud is so big, in fact the Horsehead 33:07 just across the Horsehead that is 30 trillion miles tall, 33:10 the neck of the horse is 30 trillion. 33:11 How much? Thirty trillion. 33:12 Thirty trillion. 33:15 You like horses across the bridal. 33:18 Bridal part of that, 33:19 maybe they will show that again, 33:20 right across the bridal. 33:21 Yeah, let's bring it up again. 33:22 The bridal you can put a 100 of our suns 33:25 with all the planets, a 100 solar systems right across 33:28 with all the bridal of that Horsehead. 33:30 Oh, that is just amazing. 33:31 And 30 trillion miles up. 33:33 So then if we-- 33:34 I'm gonna have to lay down. 33:35 It's getting into me. 33:38 You got my brain working, 33:39 it's not used to working that hard. 33:40 If you-- if our audience 33:41 would Google Barnard's Loop, 33:43 you will see the light coming out 33:45 and it's a big circle, that circle is so far across 33:47 a flash of lighting over here would take 33:50 300 years to see it on the other side. 33:52 It is huge and there is light coming out, 33:54 I'm juts kind of what? I'm speculating. 33:56 My wife says, you're speculating 33:58 it a little too much. 33:59 But it could be the light 34:01 from that New Jerusalem, you know. 34:02 Now we got one more picture the Horsehead coming up 34:04 and this is an infrared picture of the black 34:06 one was your Kodak moment, 34:08 this shows you the heat present. 34:09 Isn't that glorious? 34:10 Absolutely. 34:11 Right there at the bottom belt star of the horse. 34:13 Absolutely. 34:16 Okay, our time is fly, we've got time 34:18 is fast moving along. 34:21 But when we get to heaven what we're gonna do in heaven? 34:26 We have no idea, eye has not seen, ear is not heard. 34:29 What we're gonna do? 34:30 But you know, like Paul in the road 34:32 of the Damascus Lord, what will you have me do? 34:35 And here is how I got the Sabbath 34:36 into the Baptist Church down Colorado. 34:40 Here is what God could do. 34:41 We don't have any idea about what He could do. 34:43 Say, Danny, I'm going to give you an assignment. 34:46 I want you to have a little spec of the universe, 34:48 the Hubble through looking through a little spec 34:50 of the sky, saw 20,000 galaxies. 34:54 The Lord could say, that's gonna be 34:55 your place in the universe. 34:57 I want you to go check it out, okay? 35:01 And in fact I would like you, let's go to next picture, 35:04 here is the one galaxy, 35:06 okay, just one galaxy. 35:07 And the Lord can say, Danny, 35:08 I want you to spend a week on each galaxy, 35:10 each star in that galaxy. 35:11 Look at the planets 35:12 and just go check out each star. 35:14 Now if you were to do that, 35:18 but you're gonna get a lot of freaking flier miles 35:20 because the Bible says, for one Sabbath 35:22 to another shall all flesh come to worship before Me. 35:24 So you are going to come back to worship 35:26 before the Lord but if you went spend six days 35:28 on each one of those stars on the screen, 35:31 its gonna take you 14 billion 737 million years 35:35 to cover the stars on this screen 35:37 and then you got 19,999 more galaxies to go to. 35:43 Well, that's why it has to be eternity. 35:46 You couldn't do that in short time, 35:48 we've got to have eternity, 35:50 there is a reason why it's eternity. 35:52 Now that galaxy is to get there is gonna 35:54 take you about 30 million years, 35:55 if you travel through speed of out of flash of light. 35:58 Yeah, But I think we're gonna get to travel 35:59 at the speed of thought or the twinkling of an eye 36:01 or like Gabriel when he came to Daniel praying. 36:04 Absolutely. 36:05 And Isaac Asimov the sci-fi writer said, 36:07 you know, I don't believe in after life, 36:10 I don't worry about the tortures of hell 36:13 or even worse the boredom of heaven. 36:14 Boredom. 36:15 Do you think it's gonna be boring there? 36:19 You'll enjoy heaven more than most of us, 36:22 you've been studying this for so long 36:23 and to see it firsthand, we won't be able 36:26 to get your attention for Mary and Jesus. 36:29 Hey, Jim, I'm over here, sorry I'm still taking in, 36:32 I'm fascinated by all of this creation. 36:36 Just one other thought while we look at that galaxy 36:38 that they tell us would take you, 36:40 you know, 30 million years to get there, 36:43 I have a real burden because there are 36:45 some wonderful ministries in the United States 36:48 that say this universe was made 6,000 years ago, 36:50 the whole universe. 36:52 People who are interested in science 36:53 will roll their eyes and think-- 36:55 and never hear the gospel. 36:56 They'll think of you as a flatterers' society. 36:59 I just did a-- 37:00 we just did a series of programs, 37:01 a documentary on the age of the universe. 37:03 You know, the Bible tells us 37:05 that God's throne is in the heavens, 37:07 over nine places it's said His throne is in the heavens, 37:09 His throne is from everlasting, 37:11 His throne is of old in the heavens, nine places. 37:15 If the universe is made 6,000 years ago, 37:17 how could God's throne-- 37:20 you know, what qualifies as of old? 37:25 Micah 5:2, "Bethlehem Ephratah, 37:27 are these who come he who is of old 37:30 and there it as he is from everlasting." 37:32 Look at Revelation 12:12, rejoice ye heavens-- 37:34 woe the devil-- woe the Earth, 37:36 Satan's come down, he has a short time. 37:39 So he considers 6,000 years a short time. 37:43 And they say the universe is young and Peter-- 37:45 in 2 Peter 3:5, it says, "By the word of the Lord 37:50 the heavens were of old." 37:52 The Bible's plain, they say the universe is young, 37:54 the Bible's plain, heavens were of old. 37:57 Your throne, O God, exists forever and ever, 37:59 Your throne is from time memorial, 38:02 Your throne is established of old, 38:04 thou art from everlasting. 38:06 Why did they feel like it's important to say 38:07 the universe is 6,000 years old? 38:09 Because they read the fourth commandment, 38:11 they won't use the fourth commandment. 38:13 For in six days the Lord made heaven, 38:14 the Earth and the sea and all that in them is, 38:17 but they won't keep the fourth commandment, 38:18 but that is one of their biggies. 38:21 But in Genesis 1:8 it says that 38:24 the firmament God called heaven. 38:26 In the creation account it's about the Earth, 38:28 the Earth, the Earth 21 times, 38:29 the Earth, the Earth, the Earth, 38:31 56 times things of the Earth 38:32 and then in verse 8 it says God talking about the firmament 38:35 and if it's talking about 38:37 100 billion galaxies in the universe 38:39 and it's talking about the Earth and the sea, 38:41 why is the sea mentioned? 38:42 If it's talking, God has already told us, 38:44 put these glasses on, Genesis 1:8, 38:46 the firmament, the sky 38:48 and if it's talking about the sky, 38:50 the Earth and the sea, it fits. 38:52 Scripture fits. 38:53 Now there are a couple other scriptures 38:54 they use too but that's a biggie. 38:57 What about the Earth in itself? How do you-- 38:59 Well, this is really interesting 39:00 because the Bible says of old 39:02 he laid the foundations of the Earth, 39:04 12 times, 11 times it says He laid the foundations, 39:07 created the heavens, laid the foundations, 39:08 created the heavens, laid the foundations, 39:09 created the heavens, 39:10 of old he laid the foundations of the Earth, 39:12 the foundations are never mentioned in Genesis, 39:15 you're a constructor, contractor, 39:17 you put the foundation in first, 39:19 they're never mentioned in Genesis. 39:20 The foundations are never mentioned in Genesis 39:23 but throughout scripture they're mentioned 39:25 and they're laid of all along with the heavens. 39:28 Could it be God laid the foundations of the Earth, 39:31 it was without form and void 39:33 and darkness is upon the face of the deep 39:34 and then 6,000 years ago, God came and put life here? 39:38 That's what I think happened. 39:40 And that really started to fit, you see. 39:43 So anyhow we're doing all right, 39:45 we got down to 12 minutes and we're doing all right. 39:48 Yeah. Great stuff. 39:50 It is, it is great stuff. 39:53 There's a scripture that is really interesting 39:55 in Job 38:31, 32 and it says that God asked Job, 40:00 "Can you bind the Pleiades? 40:02 Can you loose the belts of Orion? 40:03 Can you bring forth the constellations? 40:05 Can you guide our Taurus with its sons?" 40:07 Well, the Pleiades are bound together like 40:09 a flock of birds, move to the east 40:10 at the 90,000 miles an hour. 40:12 They're bound together, where you saw the stars going 40:14 every different direction, the Pleiades are bound together 40:17 like a flock of birds, 500 bound together. 40:21 God said to Job, "Can you bind the Pleiades 40:23 or loose the belts of Orion?" 40:25 We have discovered now there are three stars 40:26 that have left the belt of Orion 40:28 in three different constellations 40:30 traveling at high speeds, they've traced that back. 40:33 Can you guide Arcturus? 40:34 And we've talked about this before 40:35 but we've got something new. 40:36 Can you guide Arcturus with its suns? 40:39 Arcturus a runaway star, traveling you saw that galaxy, 40:42 it's traveling through our galaxy 400, 000 miles an hour, 40:45 it's not yet collided with other stars, okay. 40:51 Astronomers say it may leave our galaxy. 40:53 New articles come out now and say did another 40:55 galaxy give us Arcturus? 40:56 It looked like it came from another galaxy, 40:58 it traveled through our galaxy, 40:59 it may leave our galaxy with its suns. 41:02 If you Google Arcturus group, 41:04 I for years wondered what that meant. 41:07 And an airline pilot Christian came into my office 41:09 when he said, do you know what that means? 41:10 He says, Google Arcturus group, 41:11 if you Google Arcturus group, 41:13 you'll find there are 52 stars with Arcturus, God said to Job, 41:17 "Can you guide Arcturus with its sons? 41:20 So that's his kind of interview ship Job 38:31. 41:26 I want to share something with you, 41:27 that's just something else amazing. 41:28 This stuff is on. 41:32 I'm gonna say Lord, who might be so blessed 41:33 to be able share this stuff but it's, the more we learn-- 41:37 Absolutely. 41:38 What a God we service. 41:39 Yeah, and look how blessed we are 41:41 because, you are literally imparting to us 41:45 things that's taken you years to do 41:47 and, you know, look what a shortcut 41:49 we get to enjoy and learn so much of this 41:52 but for people just like you, thank you for what you do 41:55 and you don't keep it to yourself, 41:57 that you're traveling all around 41:58 the country in the world, 41:59 where you say 100 engagements probably a year, you do? 42:02 And that's amazing and later we'll put 42:05 your address here in a few minutes, 42:06 if people want to contact you for whatever reasons, 42:10 you know, and back here to find out information, 42:12 go to your website, we want them 42:14 to keep in contact with you 'cause this is incredible. 42:16 My wife and I've been to Russia, 42:17 we've been speaking in 20 cities throughout Russia. 42:20 She's only been one trip, I was there for four. 42:23 We did camp meeting in France, 42:25 camp meeting in Australia, camp meeting throughout US, 42:28 we get to prayer in many lot schools. 42:29 Wow. And it's pretty exciting. 42:32 I'm trying to sell my business 42:34 so I can go on the road a little bit more 42:37 but, you know, Bible says if-- 42:38 Your business happens to be... 42:40 A tentmaker. 42:43 Yeah, you're tentmaker but you-- 42:45 I've seen some of the telescopes 42:47 that you've been involved in 42:49 and I guess, did you invent some of those? 42:51 Yeah, I have a dozen patterns. 42:54 A dozen patterns on telescopes, 42:56 some of them I saw look huge. 42:58 Well, there are some of them, we did a couple for NASA, 43:00 we did one on a trailer with a four wheeler-- 43:02 He's very humble, you see, 43:04 I'm having to try to warm this out of him, 43:06 he don't just tell you on his own. 43:08 He says I'm a tentmaker. 43:09 What you're doing is all been to what you're doing now, 43:13 I mean, incredible that you not only bought them 43:16 but you developed, designed and built 43:18 these incredible telescopes. 43:21 The best one probably is the binocular telescope 43:23 where you get a 16 inch telescope for each eye 43:26 when you can use both eyes, 43:27 walk around like this for a while, 43:29 you get eye fatigue looking at dim galaxy 43:32 with one eye and having-- 43:34 just like you're fastening your seatbelts, 43:35 just like you're in space when you look through those 43:37 but they're expensive, and business is not good, 43:39 people don't have money like they did. 43:41 I used to have 18 employees, 43:42 you know, I'm down to six full time once now. 43:45 But in my Father's house there are many mansions. 43:47 All right. 43:48 You're a builder, you know, how about a tree house? 43:51 Let's take a look at a tree house. 43:52 Tree houses are becoming very popular today. 43:54 Okay, wow. 43:55 Do you think you could build one like that? 43:56 I don't know, that's pretty neat one right there. 44:00 In my Father's house there are many mansions. 44:02 You know, I live in the mountains of Colorado 44:04 where we have deer and elk and raccoons 44:07 and birds, humming birds 44:08 and in the country, people often say, 44:11 when I went to Russia, live in these big, 44:14 you know, high-rises, oh, that would be heaven to have, 44:18 you know, to have animals like that. 44:20 Well, the Bible tells us that the inheritance 44:23 of the saints is called a country 44:25 in Hebrews 11:14-16, 44:28 inheritance is called the country. 44:31 And tree houses are getting very popular. 44:32 I'm gonna show you something that I think will amaze you 44:35 but let's take a look at the next picture. 44:37 Could you live in that tree house? 44:38 Wouldn't that be an amazing place to live? 44:42 We're gonna build houses in heaven 44:43 and in my Father's house, there are many mansions, okay. 44:47 Now take a look at the next one. 44:49 This is one I drive by everyday. 44:51 In Colorado. 44:52 It's up on the top of the mountain, 44:53 and in my Father's made for a-- 44:54 Looked like a big spaceship for a minute, you know. 44:57 Look what Ellen White says talking about heaven, 45:00 "I saw the most beautiful houses 45:02 that had the appearance of silver." 45:04 Does that look like kind of what she's talking about? 45:07 "Supported by four pillars set 45:09 with pearls most glorious to behold, 45:11 which were the inhabitance of the saints." 45:13 I think she's talking about a pretty spectacular place, 45:18 pillars, we got one more picture, 45:19 take a look as most all of these tree houses 45:21 have are on pillars. 45:23 They're supported on pillars and she saw these houses, 45:27 they were more spectacular houses 45:28 which were the inhabitance of the saints. 45:30 Wow. 45:32 So, here Danny, we got through that 45:34 series better than I thought we would, 45:35 I was afraid we wouldn't get all the way through. 45:38 But we can talk about a million other things, 45:41 I tell you it is-- 45:43 I think this is so incredible and just for us, Jim, 45:47 for you to bring this to us to keep in mind 45:49 because my dad used to tell me something, 45:52 I'm really glad he did, 45:53 he never had any formal education, 45:55 went to the eighth grade, 45:56 first one of his family out of 14 kids 45:59 they raised 13 or 12 46:01 but to go through the eighth grade, 46:03 be an awful lot of common sense 46:05 but when we would be at home and you didn't like something 46:09 there was five of his kids, and we'd be-- 46:11 he'd say, hey, hey, hey, son, 46:13 this world doesn't revolve around you, 46:16 you're just a speck on planet Earth, 46:20 you need to seeing what you can do for the world 46:22 and look into world rather than thinking 46:24 the whole world's looking at you here 46:26 and it helps bring us to the tension 46:29 what kind of a God, God's-- how big is this heart of God 46:35 to love frail human agents who constantly fail 46:39 that He didn't just do, wouldn't that been so easy? 46:41 The universe look like you'd even notice this whole Earth, 46:44 He just zap this off 46:46 but what kind of love does that say? 46:49 I wrote a song recently, it says 46:50 "Calvary says love to me" and so really that's it 46:54 and it sums up when you look at Calvary, 46:58 that shows doesn't say, 47:00 it really shows God's love for us. 47:03 So we serve a Creator that can do all of this 47:06 and yet He loves us enough to leave all of that 47:10 to come to the serve-- 47:11 Yes, and live like a street person. 47:13 Now there's something else along with those tree houses, 47:17 I've had people say heaven's kind of spiritual 47:21 and Ellen White says that a fear of making 47:23 the future inhabitance seem too 47:25 material has led many to spiritualize 47:28 the way the very truths 47:29 which lead us to look upon it as our home. 47:32 You know, and she says that 47:34 Christ has showed His disciples 47:36 that He want to prepare mansions for them 47:37 in His Father's house. 47:38 And she also mentions that eye has not seen, 47:40 we don't have any idea 47:41 but, you know, I wanted to mention 47:43 what's going on in Denver. 47:45 The people in Denver, we have six Christian radio stations, 47:48 we have three television stations. 47:50 We're dark, Denver is dark, 47:52 Colorado is dark, its a dark place. 47:55 I just come back from Minnesota, 47:56 you got ten major cities have 3ABN television. 47:58 People are-- my sister says 48:00 we had eight people walk into our church ready for baptism. 48:02 Praise the Lord. 48:03 We had-- I just talked to her 48:04 two weeks ago and she said, 48:05 you know, we had a family in our church 48:07 that was raising dogs and somebody called up 48:09 and said, can we come 48:10 and see your puppies on Saturday? 48:11 And they said oh, we're going to church on Saturday. 48:13 And they said, is there a Saturday church around here? 48:15 We're looking, we're watching 3ABN, 48:17 we've been looking for a Saturday church 48:19 and then some friends came over, 48:21 their family came over, 48:22 you guys go to church on Saturday, 48:24 that's crazy, you know? 48:25 And so in the course of their visit 48:26 and then after a while, 48:27 you know what, we got to get home 48:29 because there's a program we want to see on Hope TV 48:32 and they didn't tell them that was a Saturday church. 48:34 But, you know, I was up in Eureka, Montana, 48:36 that may not be the end of the world 48:38 but I think you can see it from there. 48:40 Six people walked in to Eureka from watching, 48:43 listening radio, 3ABN radio. 48:45 But Denver is dark and people are being-- 48:47 they're not told the truth. 48:49 Well, I know that you have peaked a lot of interest here 48:52 from around the world, there's gonna be people 48:54 bombarding your website, I can almost guarantee you that 48:58 but I'd like to give your address 49:00 if you don't mind if it's okay with you, 49:02 we're gonna let the folks 49:03 if you like to get in contact with brother Jim, 49:06 go to his website, you may do this 49:08 at the following address. 49:13 If you'd like to contact to Jim 49:14 or learn more about his ministry, 49:16 then you can write to Heavens Declare Incorporated, 49:20 8550 West 14th Avenue, Lakewood, Colorado, 80215. 49:26 That's Heavens Declare Incorporated, 49:29 8550 West 14th Avenue, Lakewood, Colorado, 80215. 49:35 You can call 303-233-5353. 49:40 That's 303-233-5353 or you can visit his website 49:45 at heavensdeclare.org. 49:48 It's all one word, heavensdeclare.org. 49:51 Call or write to him today. |
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