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Kirley-Sue's Cakes and Puddings Kitchen

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Participants: Jill MOrikone (Host), Susanne Kirlew & Claudia Kirlew

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01:07 Hello friends, and welcome
01:08 to another 3ABN today cooking program.
01:11 I'm Jill Morikone
01:12 and we have an exciting program of--
01:15 we don't tell you yet, it's gonna be a surprise.
01:18 First we're gonna introduce, our guest.
01:20 That is Susanne Kirlew,
01:22 and she came all the way from England to us here,
01:27 to share these recipes with you at home
01:29 and you've been here before, Susanne.
01:30 How many times have you been here?
01:31 Twice before, so this is my third time, yes.
01:34 And every time when Susan comes
01:36 we know we're gonna have good food.
01:37 Ah, thank you.
01:39 And a good time in the kitchen.
01:41 Tell our friends
01:42 may be they haven't caught a previous program,
01:44 tell them just a little bit about your ministry
01:47 "Kirly-Sue's Kitchen"
01:48 and what you're all about, what you do?
01:49 Well, "Kirly-Sue's Kitchen" ministry
01:51 is a ministry that helps people
01:53 to kick-start their vegan journey.
01:56 So we have cookbooks
01:58 and we have online recipe videos
02:00 and all sorts of help for people
02:03 who want to make that switch
02:04 from a non-plant based diet to a plant based diet.
02:08 And you don't have to be a vegan,
02:10 to appreciate the food.
02:11 If you just-- some people out what you call flexitarians.
02:14 Yes.
02:15 So they're not vegan or vegetarian all the time,
02:17 they do, they keep meat and fish
02:20 and dairy to a minimum.
02:21 So those recipes that I have are good
02:24 for all sorts of people as well.
02:25 So it's helping people along their and vegan journey
02:29 and to eat healthy and to have good ideas.
02:31 Because traditionally,
02:33 you know, some times people think of vegan food is boring
02:36 and tasteless but this is to show them, no, it's not.
02:38 Absolutely, I love Susanne's ministry.
02:42 It's an incredible ministry.
02:43 The things that she does within the ministry
02:45 and the why that she reaches out
02:48 to people all over the world.
02:50 And the way that she reaches in a special way
02:52 with a plant based message, in to the secular world.
02:56 It's just an incredible thing.
02:57 And today we're gonna focus especially on the image,
03:01 the image, the vegan image.
03:03 So tell me about the image of veganism
03:05 as we quick start here.
03:06 Veganism can't seem quite bland to some people.
03:10 As soon as you as veganism they think, that's disgusting.
03:13 Oh, you're really missing out.
03:16 But I'm here to tell you it doesn't have to be bland,
03:18 it doesn't have to be tasteless,
03:19 it doesn't have to be boring, it's all about creativity,
03:23 and trying new things,
03:25 and finding your style of veganism.
03:29 Veganism doesn't have to be tofu,
03:31 it doesn't have to be lettuce leaf's,
03:34 it can be a combination of things.
03:37 Because sometimes people, when say I'm a vegan,
03:39 they'll say, oh, so what do you eat?
03:41 Nothing. How boring.
03:42 Just salad like rabbit, but there is something,
03:44 but there is a lot more then that.
03:45 Well, lots of people will say oh, I don't eat vegan food.
03:47 And I say to them, do you eat fruit?
03:50 Yes, that's vegan.
03:52 Do you drink water?
03:53 Yes, that's vegan.
03:55 Do you eat bread? Yes, a lot's of bread is vegan.
03:58 So, they already eat vegan things
04:00 but they don't identify them as vegan
04:03 because they are not marketed as vegan.
04:05 So it's helping them to understand,
04:07 you already eat vegan things.
04:08 It's just, if you wanted to make that change,
04:10 is just increasing it.
04:11 Yeah, and on the flip side, we talked about--
04:14 we have the veganism and some people say
04:16 that's boring or you touched on that.
04:18 And how it's doesn't have to be it,
04:19 it can be tasty and wonderful.
04:21 But in addition to that,
04:22 you said there can be angry veganism.
04:24 Tell us about that.
04:25 Oh, boy, that is out there, most challenging one.
04:28 Some times people unfortunately may come across
04:33 though they're using it as a position of power.
04:36 I'm doing something right and you know that attitude.
04:38 Yes.
04:39 I don't think that's the way to go.
04:41 If you're a vegan and somebody isn't everybody has a choice
04:45 and everybody is entitled to choose what they what to do.
04:47 For me, is not saying you have to be a vegan.
04:50 It saying this is an opportunity
04:52 that's available to you.
04:54 If you want to choose this path I'm her to help you
04:57 and give you some information and share with you
04:59 what I have learned along my personal. Amen.
05:02 Because of one year to date,
05:04 I am now been a vegan for one year.
05:06 One year? Yes.
05:07 That's incredible.
05:08 And so they cool it and--
05:09 vegan anniversary that's it.
05:14 Vegan anniversary?
05:15 Yes, so it's called vegan anniversary.
05:17 Vegan anniversary,
05:19 now I learnt a new word, I had no idea.
05:21 Yes, vegan anniversary. That's neat.
05:22 Well, let's talk briefly
05:24 before we get into what we're gonna make today.
05:26 Let's talk briefly about your cookbooks.
05:28 I know that you have several cookbooks--
05:30 I do.
05:31 And you have some that are brand new.
05:32 Yes and the two newest ones are "Kirly Sue's Sweet Treats"
05:36 in which the recipes we're doing for the show
05:38 are all featured in that.
05:40 So we're doing desserts today.
05:41 Yes, we are. Cat out of the bag.
05:42 That's wonderful.
05:43 "Kirly Sue's Sweet Treats," I love that.
05:45 There is a picture of the book there. Okay.
05:47 And we're also doing, and the other book
05:49 I've got is "Kirly-Sue's Midweek Meals." Okay.
05:51 Yes, these are all--
05:53 these are at the moment are e-books
05:54 but, probable by the time this is show goes to ahead
05:57 it will be a printed version as well so you can get,
05:59 an app, electronic version for your iPad,
06:03 Kindle, cell phone, or you can get the printed version,
06:06 lots of us still love to have a printed version.
06:08 Something that you can actually hold in your hands.
06:09 Yes, so both will be available.
06:11 You can get dirty in the kitchen.
06:12 You can use this one.
06:13 That's great! Yeah they're available online.
06:15 And then you have a book,
06:16 "How to Become A Vegan." Yes.
06:17 And that's great, because a lot of people don't know.
06:20 And say it seems scarier
06:21 or it seems difficult I have no idea
06:23 and so this is good tip.
06:24 I think this may be of all the books
06:27 I have written the best seller because it's the free one.
06:31 So this book is free? Okay. This one is free.
06:33 You go to my website you just download it.
06:34 It's basically a step by step guide on,
06:37 if you are brand new to veganism
06:39 and you don't know where is to begin
06:40 this will help you and it's a easy read.
06:43 Even though I have a degree in masters,
06:45 I did not write in formal academic language.
06:47 It's all easy to follow,
06:49 It's not something that you're gonna sit there
06:51 and think, I have to plough through it.
06:52 It's easy to follow,
06:55 and it has ideas, hints and tips
06:57 and also where you go to do further research,
07:00 DVD's you can watch, websites you can go on to,
07:02 you can kind of a familiarise yourself
07:04 with the whole vegan world.
07:06 I love that, because we need information
07:08 in order to make informed decisions.
07:10 Now we already let the proverbial cat
07:12 out of the bag by telling you we're doing sweet treats today
07:15 but we're doing Kirly-Sue's cakes. Yes.
07:18 Let's take a look at all those yummy recipes.
07:21 Our Cornmeal Pudding.
07:22 Jamaican. Ah!
07:24 Traditional Jamaican pudding.
07:26 Nice, looks good and a Vegan Mango Cake.
07:29 Now you see the Jamaican influences
07:31 over there again, mango.
07:33 That's right, and next we're going to a Vegan Ginger Cake.
07:36 Again Jamaica comes up.
07:38 Yes, that's wonderful,
07:39 because your heritage is from there. Yes.
07:40 I can't wait to try these--
07:41 Vegan Brownies. Brownies.
07:43 Yes, these are lovely. I love them.
07:45 Now those could be American.
07:46 Yes. Coffee in there. We're--
07:47 Okay, okay. Sweet potato pudding.
07:50 Yes, you can't go wrong with that
07:52 because sweet potato is low in carbohydrates,
07:55 so if people are on a diet that's perfect for them.
07:56 Oh, yes.
07:57 And last but not least is the Raw Carrot.
07:59 Raw carrots cake.
08:00 I've been asked a lot about raw feed recipes
08:04 so I've started to do some recipes along those lines.
08:07 Great, oh that's wonderful.
08:08 So if people wanted to try out--
08:11 this is easy because you eat raw carrot,
08:12 people eat raw carrots anyway
08:14 so this would be a easy real food recipe to start with.
08:15 Yeah, oh that's great.
08:17 Let's read the first recipe for the Cornmeal Pudding.
08:53 Yummy, I like all the spices mix together over there.
08:57 Great. Shall we begin? Yes, all right.
08:59 Right, you put the cornmeal
09:00 where you sift the cornmeal first of all like said.
09:05 Nice.
09:06 And while you sifting it you going to--
09:08 once it's going down by about half in the sift
09:11 then you are going to put the flour in sifting
09:14 kind of mix them together. Yeah.
09:16 Put over there please, and go like that.
09:19 Now plain flour would that be
09:20 like an unbleached flour, or just--
09:22 Yes, I always go for unbleached the healthiest you can find.
09:27 Sometimes you just can't find,
09:29 so doing the best you can with what you have available
09:32 that's, I think that's the fairest way to...
09:34 I think that is fair absolutely.
09:36 It's a kind of advice to people.
09:38 So, yeah.
09:39 As you can see with the cornmeal
09:40 sometimes as little bits in there.
09:42 Yes, you have some of that left behind. Yes.
09:44 Now this makes lighter when you sift it like that.
09:47 Yes, it put-- well, this is not gonna rise. Okay.
09:51 And because it's a pudding, but, here in the US
09:55 pudding is what would we called a mousse.
09:58 So it's kind of like your sweet potato pie-- Okay.
10:01 But without the crust,
10:02 that's the kind of the consistency sort of.
10:04 All right, that's make sense.
10:05 Yeah, so you just sift it.
10:08 I'm gonna use this to speed up.
10:11 Well that's a little bit sound there.
10:12 Lots of that.
10:17 Oh, yeah.
10:18 Yeah, we're nearly done. Yeah.
10:21 Yeah, you just got the little granules at the bottom there.
10:23 Real good all the way through like so.
10:26 So this is traditional Jamaican?
10:28 It is definitely. Cornmeal pudding.
10:30 I borrow one of those bowls.
10:31 Just gonna put that in. And that is sweet.
10:35 You can add fresh grated coconut or dusted coconut.
10:40 That would be wonderful. Oh, yeah.
10:43 Now we are going to do the coconut milk.
10:47 Now it's a thick coconut milk. Yes.
10:50 Now with coconut milk if you can,
10:53 because this program is shown all around the world,
10:56 if you can grate the coconut,
10:57 and make the coconut milk yourself,
11:00 it tastes wonderful.
11:01 Oh.
11:02 I know, not everybody can do that unfortunately.
11:05 So, for those of us in other country
11:08 we have to use the tinned coconut milk,
11:10 which is fine, which is fine.
11:11 It works out okay.
11:13 So to the coconut milk you add your vanilla.
11:16 All right.
11:17 And then you are going to add your spices. Oh, nice.
11:20 Now you call the all spice
11:21 something different in England.
11:22 Mixed spice. Mixed spice, okay.
11:24 Yes. Okay.
11:25 You just stir that around it had been added to that.
11:27 Oh, it smells the good.
11:28 Because that helps distribute it quicker.
11:32 You want the salt? Yes, we'll add the salt.
11:37 Yummy. You can smell it.
11:40 Right, now we are going to add it to the dry mixture.
11:46 All right. You like so.
11:47 All right, these are going in there.
11:51 Very nice.
11:52 Now we're going to mix this round
11:55 and then we're gonna come to fun part...
11:59 which is going to show you
12:00 how you get the lumps out of the mixture.
12:03 Ah! I was wondering about that.
12:05 I like, I like the bit
12:07 where you get the lumps out of the mixture.
12:08 You like the-- what way?
12:09 I like getting the lumps out of the mixture. Yes.
12:11 It's very therapeutic actually.
12:14 Kind of like kneading bread,
12:15 getting your hands in there and they're working.
12:17 Kind of, yeah.
12:18 So to get the lumps out...
12:22 How do we do? We use the gloves.
12:25 You don't have to as far as your hands
12:27 and nails are clean you don't have to
12:29 but anyone who is British one has to be posh.
12:32 That's right. Oh, yeah.
12:34 One must maintain the British image. Yes.
12:37 And you basically just use your hands.
12:40 Ah!
12:41 To take the lumps out like that.
12:42 Okay, yeah.
12:43 So this is very watery at this part.
12:45 Yes, it is watery. Okay.
12:48 And that's okay.
12:49 Yeah now, it supposed to be. It supposed to be.
12:51 If it's not watery then... There is a problem.
12:53 Add more coconut milk. Okay.
12:55 Yeah, you do that. Nice.
12:58 So it's quite therapy,
12:59 you won't get every single loss lump out.
13:02 No, you won't but you will get most of it out.
13:05 And then the rest will be come out in the baking.
13:07 But what you don't want is
13:08 large lumps of flour that baking into
13:10 and then the flour it tastes...
13:12 And then, you take a bite and you get a whole-- yes.
13:14 Yes, flour of, mouth full of flour
13:16 that's what you don't want--
13:17 Now see this which I'm sure everybody will enjoy doing.
13:23 So much like massaging the mixture.
13:26 Absolutely.
13:27 So, and then we're going to add the raisins.
13:31 The raisins coming?
13:32 Can you tip the raisins for me, please
13:33 while I get rid of these--
13:36 There you go.
13:39 Stir those around.
13:43 Now what made you into this type of cooking,
13:45 in the beginning, Susanne?
13:46 Well, traditionally because my country orient is Jamaica.
13:53 Even though you grew up in England.
13:54 I grew up in England.
13:55 But, if you think of--say if your parents had graduated--
13:59 not graduated, immigrated to say India
14:02 you would still know American recipes,
14:03 because your momma teach you American recipes
14:05 even if spoke the language,
14:07 you were born there, grew up there,
14:08 into school there, you will still have
14:09 some connection with America.
14:10 It's a culture. So it's the same as myself.
14:12 I was born in London, grew up in London
14:14 but my parents are from Jamaican,
14:15 so they taught us and they very patriotic.
14:17 Yeah that's honor.
14:18 So you must know the national anthem,
14:19 you must know the national flower,
14:21 you must know all the dishes,
14:23 you must be able to speak the dialect,
14:24 it was very scary thing.
14:25 That's, wonderful, and what about going more plant based?
14:28 There is a-- I'm in Jamaica--
14:30 Were you always planned based or?
14:32 No, no. No, okay.
14:33 So what led you on that journey,
14:35 going more plant based.
14:36 It's through church, through the church actually.
14:40 And for me personally in recent years
14:44 I've had to undergo major surgery twice. Okay.
14:47 And I just got to point where there is a saying
14:50 that says genetic loads to gun, "genetics loads the gun,
14:54 but lifestyle pulls the trigger."
14:56 So that the illness that I had,
14:59 that I had to under related to--
15:00 Were related to genetics you can.
15:01 Yeah, they were related to genetics
15:03 but it was lifestyle perhaps that pulled the trigger.
15:06 We may never know.
15:07 But I thought, you know what?
15:09 This hospital thing is not fun.
15:12 They can't cook.
15:13 It's very boring, so no, thank you.
15:15 Absolutely, so we're put in our bun.
15:17 Yes.
15:20 Then pour it in. Yeah.
15:23 You know all the raisins under there.
15:27 So this must be our topping over here.
15:29 It is, but I'm-- because of time--
15:32 We're not gonna--
15:33 Really, what you would do usually
15:36 is bake this for 15 minutes
15:39 so that it's kind of a just starting to set on top.
15:42 And then you may, you mix the sugar,
15:45 the coconut milk, and some butter,
15:48 and then pour it on top,
15:49 so that when it's cooks the top layer
15:51 is kind of like a jellyish,
15:53 softest consistency in the bottom. Nice.
15:54 Oh, that's sounds good. Yes.
15:57 But we're not able to do that now
15:59 but, all you do wait 15 minutes then pour it on top
16:01 and then let it continue cooking.
16:04 And it bakes at 350 Fahrenheit.
16:06 Three fifty Fahrenheit,
16:07 which is 180 Celsius and gas mark four.
16:11 Four. Okay. Yes.
16:13 I'm learning this.
16:14 And that's as simple, that's as simple is it is.
16:16 I love that and we have
16:18 some that already finished here. Yes.
16:19 Put the raisin on top, and I can see,
16:21 the coconut milk and the sugar that you added later,
16:24 you can see that it makes the difference on the top.
16:26 Looks wonderful and I have my own private stash.
16:30 Enjoy.
16:32 Oh, that's great.
16:36 I'm glad you like it.
16:38 I love spices.
16:39 So everybody watching from Jamaican now will got yeah!
16:45 That's why I'll be coming to Jamaica
16:47 and eat your food, it's wonderful.
16:48 Oh, I love it.
16:50 The spices make it. Thank you.
16:52 Very nice, lets go to our next recipe.
16:54 You want to read that.
17:19 Yummy. I like it with the mango.
17:22 I know, it's one of my favorite fruits.
17:24 Is it really? Yes.
17:25 And it is very quick and easy to make. I like that.
17:27 As I try to make all my recipes.
17:29 So basically, you just put the flour--
17:31 and in the recipe we said all purpose flour,
17:34 it's also known as plain flour.
17:37 Same sort of thing. Okay.
17:38 You want me start, you know? Yeah, the baking powder.
17:40 Yes, please, yeah, go ahead.
17:42 Thank you.
17:43 Cardamom powder, so basically you sift together
17:46 all of the dry ingredients and set that aside.
17:49 And then in another bowl
17:51 we're gonna add the delicious mango puree.
17:54 Now, how did you make a mango puree?
17:57 What did you do that?
17:58 Well, because we're traveling
18:00 and we're in the US we just got the tin.
18:05 But, if I was making this at home
18:07 I would try to disuse mangos.
18:12 In Jamaica one of the mangos
18:14 that you use for stuff like this,
18:15 this is called the Julie mango.
18:17 Because there are different varieties of mangos
18:19 Julie mango is one that you can use
18:21 when you're making a lot of mango juice and so forth.
18:24 But any mango really would be fine.
18:26 So you just peal it?
18:27 You peal it and then just crush, crush the flesh of it.
18:32 You can do that with--
18:34 The blender or?
18:35 You can do with a fruit processor
18:36 or can just with them a fork or whatsoever.
18:39 Okay, yeah. Yeah.
18:40 So, then you stir all of this together like so.
18:44 Yum. Yum, is right.
18:49 And I like the way when you bake it,
18:50 it comes out that nice kind of yellowy orangey color.
18:53 Yeah! What fabulous? Yeah.
18:55 Like that, so we're gonna move this over here
18:59 and then you're just going to add this.
19:03 Little bits at a time.
19:04 Yeah, so that the flour doesn't go all over the place.
19:08 Yes. That's very smart.
19:11 Just mixed up together.
19:13 Very nice.
19:15 I sometimes make this like for in cupcakes
19:19 I was going to a potluck at church,
19:21 Holloway church in north London.
19:23 They said oh, please.
19:25 Some of them all me Kirly-Sue.
19:27 They say Kirly-Sue, can you bring some cupcakes?
19:29 So I made a cupcake version of this
19:32 and the cupcakes were,
19:34 as they say gone in 60 seconds which is a huge complement.
19:37 They were fabulous. Yes.
19:39 There were people taking their main course
19:42 and then heading straight to the dessert table
19:44 before they finished the main course
19:46 and went up now I'm gonna make sure I get a cupcake.
19:48 I need one of Kirly-Sue's cupcakes
19:49 because we know, Kirly-Sue makes good cupcakes.
19:51 And the kids were all ah, cupcakes, yes.
19:54 Everybody likes cupcakes.
19:56 And you know I love that about your cooking
19:57 and your recipes, Susanne.
19:58 Thank you.
19:59 Because there are things that we would recognize. Yes.
20:02 You know the food-- Familiarity--
20:04 That we are familiar with that we say, oh I recognize that,
20:06 I would like to eat that but here
20:07 is just a plant based version.
20:09 Yes. So that's great.
20:10 I like that very much.
20:12 Some of them are plant based anyway like,
20:14 the cornmeal pudding we made earlier
20:17 that would be vegan anyway.
20:19 Okay. Yeah.
20:20 Because in Jamaica there is a movement of people
20:23 called "Rastafarians" which is a religion
20:28 and they eat only vegetarian or vegan food.
20:33 And there are some them who don't cook anything,
20:35 they just have raw food.
20:36 They are very healthy and live very long as well.
20:42 So and you just transfer that in to the bowl.
20:45 You want me or you're going to?
20:46 Yes if you could hold it for me it's a quite heavy this bowl
20:48 There you go. Yep.
20:50 And you've already greased the pan?
20:52 Yes, we did. Perfect.
20:55 My glamorous assistant taught me.
20:58 It's nice, you got your two sisters coming.
21:00 I have, yes.
21:01 Not one but two this time.
21:05 It's nice.
21:07 Because when you come it's a lot of work
21:08 and then this time Jeremy and Iris came
21:10 and they're in kitchen too and that's a blessing.
21:12 Yes, definitely. That's wonderful.
21:14 Really they are very grateful.
21:16 So we shake it around like that and then that's go in the oven.
21:20 And what's baking, at what temperature?
21:21 It bakes at,
21:23 always I have to have my notes for my US conversion,
21:27 350 degrees Fahrenheit,
21:30 which is a 180 degrees Celsius, and its gas mark four.
21:35 Okay.
21:36 For 35 to 40 minutes
21:38 and then when it's all completed it looks like this.
21:40 And that looks fabulous.
21:43 Yum, yum, yum.
21:45 And you can see's that nice color, rich color as well.
21:48 Oh it's beautiful, I love it.
21:49 Probably if you use fresh mango it has a even better taste.
21:52 If can't and you can only get the pureed one in the tin
21:56 then go with what you've got with.
21:57 You can use the fresh one.
21:58 Oh yes-- It's fabulous.
21:59 Fresh is always best,
22:00 just because the flavor of so much better.
22:01 Yes, it's such a stronger flavor.
22:03 Yes, is less work to do when you use good ingredients.
22:06 It is, that's right. Absolutely.
22:08 Lets go to our next cake recipe.
22:10 That the "Vegan Ginger Cake".
22:37 Yummy, yummy, that's what I can say
22:39 about the whole program.
22:41 Because you all know I like desserts anyway,
22:42 but these are healthy plant
22:44 based desserts, and I like that.
22:45 That's all nice.
22:46 And this is again is another quick and easy one to make.
22:50 So you add, to bowl you put in the oil
22:55 and the sugar.
22:56 Have you ever made up with non-sunflower
22:58 like if you make the different types.
22:59 Yeah, you can use, you can use,
23:00 I think in the US you have safflower oil
23:04 or you can use canola oil as well. Okay.
23:07 Yes, you can, it doesn't have to sunflower.
23:08 It gives us options, okay.
23:09 Yeah, and maple syrup. Nice.
23:13 And your vinegar and you stir those together.
23:19 That was our apple cider vinegar you used for that,
23:21 all right, okay.
23:25 Just stir that around. So you want to mix it.
23:28 Just to combine it.
23:30 Then you just add all the rest of the ingredients.
23:33 Nice. So now we gonna add our ginger.
23:36 And the bicarbonate soda would be--
23:38 Also called baking soda in other countries.
23:39 Okay, yeah.
23:41 Sounds good
23:42 Yes, stir that around.
23:45 Have you ever made it with fresh ginger
23:46 or you always do it with--
23:47 Fresh ginger is good to use.
23:49 If you can use the fresh ginger even better,
23:52 as I say, fresh is best.
23:53 Yes.
23:54 And if you can do that that will be much better.
23:58 And yeah, that's, that's what you want to go for,
24:02 but obviously you just make sure
24:03 you don't over do it with the amount of what it will be--
24:06 as it they call it like the kick of seven angry mules.
24:11 Yeah that's what you don't want.
24:13 That would have a good kick if you go too much.
24:14 Absolutely.
24:16 And then you add your soya milk
24:19 and then you're good to got to just stir this.
24:21 Nice.
24:24 Now do you do this full time in ministry?
24:26 I'm almost there,
24:28 by the time I come back to record some old shows
24:31 I will be able to say, yes, I am full time.
24:34 Amen. Amen.
24:35 God is sending me down that path and I'm almost there--
24:40 not long now to go.
24:41 So He's opened up many doors for me
24:44 and I'm, I'm very grateful and I feel humbled, as well.
24:48 Amen, Amen.
24:49 But to me when you put your hand
24:50 or your life in to the hand of God. Yep.
24:52 You know, what you have done and you say okay God,
24:54 I wanted to use by You which You have done
24:57 and then God put in your hear this burden,
25:00 this desired to do the plant based,
25:03 to reach out, and to minister to people
25:05 from all over the world.
25:06 And so, that's an incredible thing.
25:07 And not only has God birth the ministry in your heart
25:10 now He's providing the way that you can do fulltime.
25:12 Absolutely. Praise God.
25:14 Because I love the last time Susanne was here
25:15 we were saying
25:17 and you know you were talking about
25:19 wanting to step out into full time,
25:20 but it wasn't a reality yet.
25:22 Now we think a year from now look what God has done
25:26 and how God grown her ministry
25:28 and now she is ready to step out full time.
25:30 So I want to encourage you at home two things.
25:34 First of all to pray for Susanne,
25:36 pray for her ministry, pray for the calling
25:39 God has put in her heart and in her life.
25:41 And the second thing, maybe God is calling you
25:43 and He is saying okay, my son, my daughter,
25:46 step out in to something.
25:48 I've given you this call I've planted it in your heart
25:51 and step out in what I've given you.
25:53 So that's just a challenge for you at home
25:55 because God gives each one of us something.
25:57 Absolutely. And He wants us to do that.
25:59 Absolutely. Praise God.
26:00 I'm excited for you. Thank you.
26:02 That's very nice.
26:03 And we just transfer in to a beacon tin and--
26:09 It sounds good. Then we just bake it.
26:12 Oh yes. What do we bake it at?
26:14 We bake it at 350 degree Fahrenheit,
26:18 180 degree Celsius, or gas mark four.
26:20 Okay.
26:23 Thank you. Nice and it bakes for?
26:26 About an hour to an hour and half, it take's a while.
26:28 Quite a while.
26:30 You have put a toothpick into the middle of to see
26:31 if it comes out clean because the middle tends
26:34 to take a little while
26:36 and if you can put it at the top of then,
26:37 then the top shelf of the oven then that will help as well
26:39 or if you got a fan assisted convection oven even better
26:43 because then it blows all the air around us fine.
26:45 Absolutely. And that's it, simple as that.
26:47 Nice and when it's all finished it looks--
26:48 Here is one me prepared earlier.
26:50 Yep. Thank you. Well, that's look good.
26:53 Later I will cut a piece,
26:54 but we don't want to cut in to it now
26:55 because it's look so pretty.
26:56 Okay. The cakes all done.
26:59 Lets go to our next recipe "Vegan Brownies."
27:03 Do you want to read that Susanne?
27:04 Sure.
27:26 Very nice.
27:28 Brownies to be our traditional American,
27:30 but I think they could be traditional
27:31 anywhere all over the world.
27:32 Do you think? It's universal.
27:34 Yes, universal, that's right brownies.
27:37 Wherever you're in the world everybody loves brownies.
27:39 Everybody loves brownies. Yes.
27:40 Yes, so we got to do a plant based brownies.
27:42 Yes we are.
27:44 So you put the flour in to the bowl, add the sugar.
27:51 Now you use different types of sugar,
27:53 like this one now the demerara the last one--
27:55 some have different types and is there a reason for that?
27:57 Some, some sugars give it more caramelly type flavor
28:01 and some give it a more kind of light and fluffy. Okay.
28:04 Depending on what you're making.
28:05 What you're looking for.
28:07 Yes. Perfect.
28:08 You put those in,
28:10 so we put in the salt and baking powder.
28:13 Just give that a stir like so.
28:15 Just to combine all the ingredients,
28:17 it doesn't have to be.
28:19 A difficult process.
28:21 No, it's not a difficult process at all.
28:23 You stir around like that
28:26 and then you're going to add water,
28:32 the oil...
28:36 and vanilla...
28:40 and stir.
28:44 And this is really-- it looks like
28:47 you're in Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory.
28:50 That's right.
28:51 It's so nice.
28:53 Oh, yes, absolutely.
28:56 Now you look lot of these recipes online
28:58 as well, don't you?
28:59 Yes, I've got a YouTube channel
29:01 and on it you've got recipe videos.
29:04 Lots of recipe videos, so you can go on there
29:06 and watch me doing the cooking demonstration
29:10 and in the comment section below
29:12 it has the recipe as well.
29:13 So you can see the recipe. Nice.
29:14 Now, I have not been to your YouTube channel
29:17 so I'm not speaking from experience
29:18 because I don't know.
29:20 But, where would you-- do you do it in your home?
29:23 You do it at the church?
29:25 Where do you do that cooking demonstration?
29:26 Lots of different places, lot of places.
29:30 I've done one of the places is,
29:32 there is a shopping mall in an London
29:36 that has a kitchen stage for people
29:39 to do recipe demonstration
29:42 and I managed to get a spot there. Nice.
29:45 To do some demonstrations, and I was--
29:49 So like a professional crew came and filmed it?
29:52 Yes, yeah, I got a crew, camera crew to come and film me
29:54 so those clips are on there as well.
29:56 So yeah, lots of different clips.
29:58 Nice.
29:59 So then we just transfer into here.
30:06 Like say...
30:11 Okay.
30:16 Nice.
30:19 Yeah, it smells good.
30:21 Smells like a big slap of chocolate doesn't it?
30:23 It does indeed and we are definitely ready
30:26 to consume it.
30:27 Okay.
30:28 And then this goes in to the oven for...
30:31 Three fifty. Three fifty, yep.
30:33 Fahrenheit. Fahrenheit.
30:35 Which is 180 Celsius. Yes.
30:37 And Gas mark four.
30:39 I'm getting good at this, if I read it.
30:40 Thank you.
30:42 All right, and that's there you have it.
30:43 And it bakes for half an hour or?
30:45 Yes, and you have to watch it because it can go quite quickly
30:48 depending on size of the pan, you got to end.
30:51 Oh yeah, that's it then you can enjoy,
30:53 cutting into little slices and taste.
30:55 That's the best.
30:57 And we have some that's all finished.
30:59 Here look at that, I love that.
31:01 Would you like to try some?
31:03 You better wait, you want to try some.
31:13 Oh, that's good.
31:15 I'm glad you like it.
31:18 I've made these for different occasions,
31:21 I've also use the same recipe to make cake bites.
31:25 You know cake balls, I think you call them or cake puffs.
31:30 It's like a round cake ball of a cake,
31:34 and it's on a lollipop stick.
31:35 Nice. Yes.
31:36 I've made that so because I got a cake puff maker at home.
31:40 So you use the same plant base thing
31:42 and you just make it something modern as well.
31:44 Because sometimes with vegan things
31:45 people think oh, it's gonna be something old fashioned
31:47 and not that exciting.
31:49 But cake puffs, or cake balls are something quite new.
31:53 So I've just use the plant based traditional recipe and--
31:57 We're talking about the image right of veganism
32:00 at the very begin of the program.
32:01 So that would be another image
32:03 or we could say an image of myth
32:05 that you trying to dispel that--
32:06 Yes, absolutely. Veganism is old fashioned.
32:09 That it can be modern, incoherent,
32:11 and relevant as us today.
32:12 Absolutely.
32:14 I like that.
32:16 Very-- this is good. This is-- it's very, moist.
32:19 Yep.
32:20 Just the right amount of sweetness,
32:21 it's not too sweet it's perfect and nice and chocolaty.
32:26 It's wonderful.
32:27 Thank you. Very, very nice.
32:28 You could have that for parties.
32:29 Definitely. And cake puff.
32:30 Yes, of any special occasion and Christmas, Thanksgiving.
32:34 Whatever the occasion is.
32:35 So now did you any catering with your ministry, or no?
32:38 No, I don't.
32:39 No, I don't yeah.
32:40 Just going out and sharing this.
32:42 Yes, yeah. That's wonderful,
32:43 Because that's a whole different approach.
32:47 It is, right.
32:48 And you have to say, how has God called me
32:50 and God has called you to this specific--
32:52 Yeah, but not to catering, you know.
32:57 Well, let's go to our next recipe here.
33:02 Yum.
33:03 Yum, that's right.
33:30 Now would you have sweet potato pudding
33:32 in England or in Jamaica?
33:34 I know we got it here. It's Jamaican.
33:36 It's Jamaican. Yes, yes.
33:38 Very nice.
33:39 And I know we have especially southern cooking,
33:41 we have a lot of that sweet potatoes.
33:42 Yes. Yeah. Oh yeah.
33:43 So, the sweet potatoes are pealed and grated
33:47 finely so we can put that into the bowl.
33:50 You done the work for us.
33:51 Yeah.
33:53 Didn't thing you'd want to stand here,
33:55 peel and then grate it so, yeah.
33:58 We've done that already.
34:00 Very nice. Thank you.
34:01 Then you add your coconut milk.
34:05 Obviously if you can make the fresh coconut milk--
34:08 You would want to grate it and make your own--
34:09 Grate it.
34:10 Yeah, because how you do it, is you grate the coconut
34:14 and add warm water to it,
34:17 and then squeeze it through a sift
34:18 and then that's the coconut milk
34:20 that will come out through it.
34:21 Okay. Then you add the grated apple.
34:24 Nice.
34:27 And you can use any type of the apple?
34:29 Yeah. Okay.
34:31 Add your raisins.
34:35 So this is really easy.
34:36 You just grated and then you just put it in together.
34:38 I like that. Yep.
34:41 Lots of Jamaican recipes are quite easy,
34:43 we don't like complicated.
34:45 We like to make life's simple for people.
34:48 They're quite easy to follow yeah, in terms of baking.
34:51 I mean, the savory dishes
34:52 now those, those can't be more complicated.
34:55 But you're baking your sweeter dishes?
34:57 Yep.
34:58 All right, you mix all together like so.
35:03 It's very nice. Okay.
35:05 Now you do a lot of social networking--
35:08 Social media, yes.
35:09 I mean, your ministry, social media, social networking
35:12 and you're tell me about was it a Facebook post that you did?
35:15 Yes.
35:16 I have a Facebook page
35:18 and I also belong to other vegan Facebook pages.
35:23 So I'm asked the question in a Facebook forum to say,
35:28 if you could find out more information about veganism
35:31 besides food, what else would you be interested in?
35:34 So, you posted that question on your Facebook?
35:36 I did, and I've-- And what was the response?
35:39 I had over 100 people respond
35:43 with a whole host of different comments and suggestions.
35:47 But to pick out a few of them
35:49 the most popular responses were,
35:51 they wanted a list of ingredients
35:53 that had animal products in it that it was an obvious,
35:57 that they have--
35:58 So, like if you buy a prepackage,
35:59 say you're buying a bread or some thing and say-- Yes.
36:01 Is there animal products in this or whatever?
36:03 Yes. Okay.
36:04 One of them for example
36:06 is red food color in Cochineal
36:08 or something like that I don't know what it is called,
36:10 but red fruit in some other countries
36:12 has animal products in it
36:14 and you wouldn't necessarily know that.
36:17 You would not know that at all. No.
36:18 So there is hidden animal products in different things.
36:21 He wanted to list of that.
36:22 Can you give us another example?
36:23 Can you think-- I know I'm putting you on the spot
36:25 but any other food ingredients that would have?
36:28 Pastry, some pastry has pork fat in it.
36:31 So you would need to kind of,
36:32 you have to be an ingredient spy,
36:35 you have to always look at it.
36:36 But sometimes the ingredient may be called
36:38 something that you're not familiar with
36:42 or you may not necessarily know is an animal product.
36:45 For example in the UK lard is pork fat,
36:49 it's a pork product.
36:50 It's an animal product.
36:51 So, if the pastry said lard in it
36:53 then you wouldn't have it obviously
36:55 because it's not vegan.
36:56 So its things like that.
36:58 That was one of them they wanted to know.
37:00 Another one they wanted to know is
37:02 very easy go to recipes.
37:04 So if you're a busy person, you come in from work
37:06 and you want to know what can I cook?
37:08 You can just pull out one of your easy,
37:11 quick and easy go to recipe.
37:13 So they wanted list of those,
37:15 quite of lot of different things
37:17 that they wanted to know as well.
37:19 So, it's was really inspiring
37:21 and it showed there was hunger for knowledge,
37:23 and a lot of people wanted to know
37:24 lots of different things about veganism.
37:26 So, it was, it was really interesting.
37:28 And also people asked about, raising children as vegan.
37:33 I don't have any children.
37:34 But, I have two nieces and nephew.
37:36 So I'm an experienced aunty.
37:39 Yes.
37:41 Absolutely, because probably parents say, okay,
37:43 can my child get enough calcium to build strong bones? Yes.
37:47 Is there enough protein for their body?
37:49 And you think about all these things as a parent
37:50 because you want want's best for your child.
37:52 Yes, absolutely.
37:54 So-- That's great.
37:55 Well, praise God. Yeah.
37:57 So, we're gonna need some help with this.
37:58 All of it can't fit in here
38:00 so we just put some of it in here.
38:01 Hopefully we're not splashing your apron there.
38:03 No but good.
38:05 You put that into here.
38:06 I think that should be enough-- actually we can fit all.
38:10 So you-- would you normally-- well this isn't enough for,
38:12 I was gonna say you could have two loaf pans--
38:14 You could actually, yeah, or just one big one.
38:15 Oh, one, okay. Yeah.
38:17 Okay, okay. That will be fine.
38:18 Because it's lot of--whole lot left for a second one.
38:20 No, and we didn't put a lot of sugar in there,
38:22 because it's sweet potatoes sweet enough
38:23 and you got raisins in there,
38:25 so that's enough, that's enough.
38:27 Yeah. That's great.
38:28 And then you just bake it at...
38:31 Three fifty, that is our magic number.
38:33 Yeah, 180 and gas mark four.
38:36 That's it And that's it, simple as that.
38:38 And it's bakes for an hour or--
38:40 Yes, it needs to bake for about an hour,
38:42 hour 15 minutes depending on what type of oven you have
38:46 because you know, different ovens
38:47 bake slightly differently.
38:50 All ovens are not credited equal.
38:51 No, they are not.
38:52 So, how would you check your oven to know,
38:54 okay as my oven comparable to someone else's oven?
38:57 Do you know what I'm saying?
38:58 Yeah, that would be difficult
38:59 because you have to use the oven to find it now.
39:02 So the main thing is once you are baking this,
39:04 is to just keep an eye on it.
39:05 So, after an hour check it,
39:08 put a toothpick in the middle see if it comes out clean,
39:11 you know, and then just test check if it isn't,
39:14 then give it another 10 minutes or 15 minutes
39:17 and then it should be done, fine.
39:18 Would you be an advocate,
39:19 you know, they say you should put a temperature,
39:21 you should check and see if my oven
39:24 actually say's this is 350 say Fahrenheit
39:27 and then I look at the temperature
39:28 is really at 350 or not
39:29 are you an advocate of that, or not?
39:31 My-- yes I'm.
39:33 In my experience usually the oven temperature
39:37 on the oven doesn't compare with the--
39:39 if you put the oven thermometer in the oven.
39:42 I have a oven thermometer at home.
39:44 Because the temperature that the oven tells you it's that
39:47 usually differ some what to the actual temperature
39:50 in there oven, if you put a oven thermometer in there
39:53 which you could buy them.
39:54 Which would be, which would be higher the oven thermometer
39:56 or the actual temperature on the oven?
39:57 Not necessary higher,
39:58 which one will be more accurate would be the--
40:00 Okay.
40:01 The thermometer inside the oven
40:04 because that called lie reading.
40:05 Absolutely.
40:06 Probably they do both a decent work.
40:09 Yes, so I would go with that.
40:10 But they are not always accurate
40:11 what's on your, on your knob.
40:13 No, they're not. Okay.
40:14 No they are not and particularly with baking,
40:15 baking is a science
40:16 and you need to be as accurate as possible.
40:18 Yes. Yes.
40:19 And we got a final product here, that's looks wonderful.
40:22 Yeah, thank you.
40:24 Yummy, very nice,
40:25 and we got the sweet potatoes in the side.
40:29 That's great.
40:30 Now we did not do the topping, did we?
40:32 We did it.
40:33 Didn't we read a recipe for the topping in the beginning?
40:34 Yes, we did, wait till you make it bake
40:38 for 15 minutes first of all
40:40 and then you mix the coconut milk,
40:42 the sugar, and a little bit of raisins
40:44 and then you put it on top.
40:45 Because when you make it bake first
40:46 and you make it a little bit solid it's sets a bit.
40:49 We did that with the cornmeal.
40:50 Yes, the similar thing. The sime-- okay.
40:52 Yes, and you do that.
40:53 And then it's comes out wonderful.
40:55 Oh, yeah.
40:56 Because that would give it that extra flavor on the top.
40:58 Yes, yes. Yes.
40:59 And then get all the way through-- I like that, yummy.
41:02 Okay, let's go to our last recipe,
41:05 for, we're doing raw, Raw Carrot Cake?
41:07 We are, yes.
41:08 Do you want to read that for us, Susanne?
41:09 Yes.
41:34 I like this recipe because it features raw. Yes.
41:36 And a lot of times when we think something is raw
41:39 or they say live we think of just a salad. Yeah.
41:41 Or something like that, but, but you're saying
41:43 I can make a dessert and have it be raw.
41:45 Absolutely.
41:47 This dessert actually a friend of mine called Melissa
41:50 inspired me with this recipe.
41:52 She gave me this recipe.
41:54 Because I saw her on social media
41:57 I'm connected to her and she made it.
41:58 And I said to her, I need, I need that recipe.
42:02 It's really great. That's wonderful.
42:04 So thank you, Melissa. That's wonderful.
42:06 And are you doing more raw recipes or not really?
42:08 I'm gonna, I'm gonna be bringing out,
42:10 a raw cook book soon, yeah.
42:13 By the time I come back next year that one will be out.
42:16 Because lots of people ask me about raw food recipes,
42:20 I've got a friend called Sibell who lives in Australia
42:25 and she inspired me as well.
42:27 She does lots of raw food recipes
42:29 and she really, she is really good at in
42:31 and they taste nice as well.
42:32 She is really good.
42:34 So thank you Sibell.
42:36 Thank you, Sibell. That's great.
42:37 Yeah. All right.
42:39 We already did some of the work.
42:40 You grated some stuff and--
42:41 Yes, so you've finely grind
42:44 and finely grate the carrots
42:47 and so you put them into a bowl like so.
42:49 Remember there is no baking in this.
42:52 This is basically you make it and put it in the freezer.
42:55 Oh in the freezer?
42:56 Yep. Oh.
42:58 Okay.
42:59 And then you mix it in with your nuts.
43:03 Do you find when people are looking in to veganism
43:05 do they even begin to raw
43:08 or is that like a whole another world?
43:10 It is a whole another world but they tend to overlap. Okay.
43:13 Because it, you know, raw tends to be
43:15 not always not always vegan but a lot of it is. Right.
43:19 Yes, you mix in nuts and nicer, and then you blend the dates.
43:22 I've done this already.
43:24 Blended that dates, I soaked as well.
43:27 So you want to soak them in, okay.
43:28 Yeah.
43:30 So, this is how you sweeten
43:31 it's got dates and raisins in it
43:33 and carrots are quite sweet as well.
43:34 They are.
43:36 And again this is the good one
43:37 for getting your children involved as well
43:41 or if you just want something quick, easy,
43:43 simple and different
43:44 and if you have any dinner party as well.
43:47 Then you add in your spices.
43:50 Oh yeah, that would give a good flavor.
43:52 Ginger, cardamom, all that.
43:58 Now, were lot of people are starting to especially,
44:02 I shouldn't say especially.
44:03 We know, all different types of people
44:06 are started to move toward to veganism?
44:08 Veganism.
44:09 Started to be more open to it but it also in public arena
44:12 it's becoming more now popular.
44:13 It's on the raise.
44:14 Yeah, lots of celebrates are vegan
44:18 and I've notice that Oprah tried out veganism recently.
44:23 And in her magazine she had some kind of vegan challenge.
44:27 I'm aware that, I think Ellen DeGeneres say,
44:30 yeah Ellen DeGeneres she is a vegan,
44:33 Russell Brand, he is a British present and comedian.
44:36 I think he does a lots of stuff here in the States.
44:39 He is a vegan and lots of people becoming vegan.
44:41 And athletes as well.
44:43 I mean, these athletes-- Lots of athletes, yeah.
44:45 Who are all getting into that which is, you know
44:46 people think, okay, well, I need to be strong.
44:48 But yet, they are athletes and there are,
44:50 you know the bodies at peak performance.
44:53 And yet they are going into the vegan.
44:54 Lots, lots of them are...
44:58 in addition to that people are just wanting more options.
45:03 Because in the UK,
45:05 we at one point had a horse meat scare
45:09 where one of the popular supermarket's,
45:11 it was discovered
45:13 that the burgers had horse meat in it not beef.
45:18 So it was a terrible experience for the UK.
45:22 So, lots of people during that horse meat scare
45:25 were asking me for more information about the veganism.
45:28 A friend of mine who wasn't a vegan,
45:30 she had recently had a baby and she said to me
45:33 Susanne, I need some more information on veganism
45:36 because I'm not happy to,
45:38 you know, she said my child is a baby
45:40 but had she had been older
45:42 I could have bought those burgers
45:43 and given them to her and who knows
45:44 what could have happened.
45:46 So she wasn't very happy, so she said,
45:47 I need to know more about a plant based diet,
45:51 and she said I need to buy one of your books please.
45:53 So said okay, no problem, that's fine.
45:55 Absolutely, so the control wasn't very good,
45:58 quality control on that.
46:00 Till that was through I guess.
46:01 Well, with anything, with any kind of production there,
46:04 you know, we live in a world where mistakes can be made.
46:07 That is true.
46:08 And the supermarket came-- their CEO he came out
46:12 with an official apologize to the public
46:14 and it was on the news, it wasn't very good.
46:17 No, the apology was good
46:18 but you know that wasn't a very good experience,
46:20 obviously for them.
46:22 So, yeah, it did create a lot of interest in--
46:27 It does right.
46:28 And in England we also have meat free Monday.
46:31 Where they encourage people once a week to have--
46:33 Do you having anything like that?
46:34 We go meat free. Meat free Monday.
46:36 No meat free Monday.
46:37 Or sometimes they call it as meatless Monday.
46:39 Yes, I was gonna say meatless but yeah, absolutely.
46:43 Then you just put it in to your container.
46:48 And it's a nice orange, nice bright color as well.
46:51 I think this would be well,
46:52 really well in the summer as well.
46:54 Anytime of a year but especially in the summer
46:56 because always it's frozen.
46:59 And you know, I was thinking
47:00 that going back to the different celebrities
47:02 and the people who are in to going more vegan,
47:05 going more plant based,
47:06 you know, when you think about it,
47:09 it's a great thing that that people in the secular world
47:13 are getting in to that and that was wonderful.
47:15 But at the same time it gives us,
47:17 you know, as Christians who have the health message,
47:21 who say as we share this plant based diet
47:24 not only will it make you feel better
47:26 but it's gonna connect you more closer with God
47:28 and to me that's a beautiful thing.
47:29 You know, as your mind and your body is healthier
47:32 and then of course, you're connected more with God.
47:35 And so that the whole goal of going plant based
47:38 and doing that is with the spiritual component
47:40 which we have.
47:41 Yep, well body is a temple of the Holy Spirit
47:44 and you should look after it.
47:45 And you know, God knows what's best for us,
47:48 He made us, He designed us
47:49 so He gives us instructions on how best to look after that.
47:54 It's like with any manufacturer
47:55 there is instructions so there you go.
47:58 That's right.
48:00 So we have this done and I was just gonna ask you
48:02 we don't bake it, it goes in the freezer.
48:03 It goes at no degree Celsius, no degree Fahrenheit,
48:08 no Gas mark--
48:10 Because it's your free to for an hour.
48:12 Okay. Yeah.
48:13 And then it would be ready to serve after an hour.
48:15 Ready to eat at your leisure.
48:17 Nice, and we have one that's all complete.
48:19 Yes, there is one there. That's looks great.
48:21 I like it very much.
48:22 And it keeps the nice color as well.
48:24 It does, right because there is no cooking.
48:26 So you already have the live enzymes in there. No. Yes.
48:28 That's great.
48:29 Now, we're gonna talk about your cookbooks one more time
48:31 before we go to your address.
48:33 You have several cookbooks out. I do.
48:35 I have some actually in my kitchen at home
48:38 and it's a blessing.
48:39 You know, the plant based food,
48:41 the food that we're familiar with that,
48:43 we recognize and also food it just tastes good
48:46 and that's the good thing about Susanne's cooking.
48:48 You have how to become a--
48:50 "How to Become a Vegan?" Yes. Vegan, okay.
48:52 And that one is like how to tips and?
48:55 It's-- if you are new to become a new vegan
48:58 and you think, oh, I don't know where to start,
48:59 this will help you.
49:00 It's a easy to follow step-by-step guide.
49:03 It's an easy read, it's not that actually long either
49:06 and it helps you to make that transfer
49:09 from non-plant based to a plant based diet.
49:12 It gives you lots of information
49:13 and also information on DVDs you can watch
49:16 and other books to read,
49:19 also different websites you can go on different forums.
49:22 You can get help, because what would be really good is
49:24 if you have vegan sponsor.
49:26 So if know somebody else who is a vegan,
49:27 he is a nice vegan, non-angry vegan, a nice vegan.
49:31 Yes, they can help you on your vegan journey as well.
49:34 So that, that is important,
49:36 because lots of the time people want information.
49:39 Oh, of course. And easy information.
49:41 And how can you make a decision
49:43 without having information to make an educated decision,
49:46 so that's important--
49:47 Because people have asked me how did you become a vegan?
49:51 And one of the things I did I read the book
49:52 called that "The China Study."
49:53 Yes.
49:55 Which is really, really helpful book.
49:56 I also watched a couple of DVDs
49:59 one was called "Forks Over Knives"
50:01 and the other one's--
50:02 We have that here in the States it's a great--
50:04 And another one it's an American film
50:06 called "The Truth About Milk."
50:08 Now, that one I'm not as familiar with, okay.
50:10 It's-- you can watch it on YouTube. Okay.
50:11 Yeah, it's uploaded it on there by "The Truth About Milk,"
50:15 "Forks Over Knives,"
50:16 and read the book "The China Study." Yes.
50:19 That's amazing.
50:20 Amazing it will, I mean if you doesn't convert you to veganism
50:22 at least you aware of these things.
50:24 And "The China Study" is not just one persons opinion,
50:28 he looks at his own research and then goes back
50:31 and look at other peoples research
50:33 and then put all together,
50:35 so it's not just a one persons coming to a conclusion
50:37 it's a whole collection of people coming to a conclusion
50:40 on why a plant based diet is so good.
50:42 That's great, and you also have a couple of more cookbooks
50:45 one is the "Sweet Treat"
50:46 and we took almost all of our and the recipes we did today
50:50 with Kirly-Sue's cakes were
50:51 from called "Kirly Sue's Sweet Treats."
50:54 Yes. That's right.
50:55 And then you have one other
50:56 which was something not entrees but midday.
50:59 "Mid Week Meals." "Mid Week Meals"
51:00 Yes. Okay.
51:02 "Mid Week Meals" and that's great too.
51:03 That gives you lots of ideas, great tips, and recipes. Yeah.
51:07 Would there be any breakfast at recipes
51:09 or they all more dinner recipes?
51:11 You have to buy the book and see.
51:13 That.
51:14 She is a good saleswoman, did you notice that,
51:16 buy the book and see.
51:18 Thank you for coming, it's just joy to have you.
51:19 You're welcome. Thank you.
51:21 We always love it when she and her sisters
51:23 come from across the pond as we would say it in England.
51:26 And what we what we to right now
51:29 is to put up a Kirly-Sue's address.
51:32 We want to put up, her social media information
51:36 and that way you can contact her for her yourself,
51:39 you can get any one of these cookbooks
51:41 or "How to Become a Vegan"
51:43 and you can check out her YouTube
51:45 all of that stuff is available, right here.
51:52 If you would like to know more
51:53 about Kirly-Sue's kitchen ministry
51:56 then visit her online at KirlySuesKitchen.co.uk.
52:02 That's KirlySuesKitchen.co.uk.
52:09 You can visit her on Facebook at Kirly.Sues.Kitchen.
52:15 That's Kirly.Sues.Kitchen.
52:18 Or you can find her on Twitter at KirlySuesKitchen,
52:23 again at KirlySuesKitchen.
52:27 Contact her today.
52:28 She would love to hear from you.


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