I want to spend my life 00:00:01.48\00:00:07.51 Mending broken people 00:00:07.54\00:00:12.29 I want to spend my life 00:00:12.32\00:00:18.71 Removing pain 00:00:18.74\00:00:23.66 Lord, let my words 00:00:23.69\00:00:29.92 Heal a heart that hurts 00:00:29.95\00:00:34.49 I want to spend my life 00:00:34.52\00:00:40.22 Mending broken people 00:00:40.25\00:00:45.61 I want to spend my life 00:00:45.64\00:00:51.23 Mending broken people 00:00:51.26\00:00:55.39 Hello, and welcome to 3ABN Today. 00:01:07.05\00:01:09.68 We are so glad that you are joining us 00:01:09.71\00:01:11.95 as you do each and everyday. 00:01:11.98\00:01:13.66 And just from the bottom of our hearts 00:01:13.69\00:01:15.62 we want to thank you for your prayers 00:01:15.65\00:01:17.34 and your love, and your financial support. 00:01:17.37\00:01:19.83 This is the Mending Broken People Network, 00:01:19.86\00:01:22.42 and it exists because God uses you to help support His work. 00:01:22.45\00:01:28.89 I am really excited today. 00:01:28.92\00:01:30.60 We have such a special guest 00:01:30.63\00:01:32.55 and it's someone that I've just kind of adopted 00:01:32.58\00:01:35.98 as another spiritual son in the Lord, 00:01:36.01\00:01:39.81 he and his wife are precious people 00:01:39.84\00:01:41.61 and just want to adopt both of them. 00:01:41.64\00:01:45.41 But without any further ado, 00:01:45.44\00:01:49.26 let me just introduce our special guest 00:01:49.29\00:01:51.30 and that is Jeremy Dixon with Revive cafe's from New Zealand. 00:01:51.33\00:01:56.22 You are a kiwi. 00:01:56.25\00:01:57.47 That's right. 00:01:57.50\00:01:59.10 Kiwi. 00:01:59.13\00:02:00.16 And, Jeremy, you are a chef. 00:02:00.19\00:02:03.69 That's right. Yes. You're a Christian. 00:02:03.72\00:02:05.87 And I would say you're an evangelist. 00:02:05.90\00:02:07.91 Since the health message is the right arm of the gospel. 00:02:07.94\00:02:12.35 You really have a mission, don't you? 00:02:12.38\00:02:15.21 Yes, I do. 00:02:15.24\00:02:16.27 Yeah, so what we're going to do is-- 00:02:16.30\00:02:20.10 we're going to be introducing several things to you today 00:02:20.13\00:02:23.69 and Jeremy is an amazing person, 00:02:23.72\00:02:26.82 an amazing Christian young man. 00:02:26.85\00:02:29.10 He has the number one cookbook in New Zealand. 00:02:29.13\00:02:34.35 And this is not just for vegan-vegetarian cookbooks, 00:02:34.38\00:02:37.62 this is-- he is at the top of the list of all the cookbooks. 00:02:37.65\00:02:42.22 So he is very good cook. 00:02:42.25\00:02:46.39 I get fat if I lived around his place 00:02:46.42\00:02:48.65 where he's got cafe's and wonderful things, 00:02:48.68\00:02:51.66 but he's also a very strong Christian 00:02:51.69\00:02:54.49 and he is on a mission from the Lord 00:02:54.52\00:02:56.57 and we want you to stay tuned today 00:02:56.60\00:02:58.31 because you gonna hear fascinating story 00:02:58.34\00:03:00.80 and he may even give some advise 00:03:00.83\00:03:02.43 to those who are thinking about starting their own business. 00:03:02.46\00:03:05.41 But before we get into the interview, 00:03:05.44\00:03:07.54 what we want to do right now is have some music 00:03:07.57\00:03:10.82 and we love music around here. 00:03:10.85\00:03:12.34 We know you do as well. 00:03:12.37\00:03:14.12 And right now we've got a special treat today 00:03:14.15\00:03:16.65 because Danny Shelton, our founder 00:03:16.68\00:03:19.08 is going to sing for us "Give him glory." 00:03:19.11\00:03:22.63 Give Him glory 00:03:34.12\00:03:40.60 Give Him glory 00:03:40.63\00:03:45.51 Lifting holy hands towards heaven 00:03:45.54\00:03:51.25 Worship Christ the Lord 00:03:51.28\00:03:56.93 He is worthy 00:03:56.96\00:04:03.32 He alone is worthy 00:04:03.35\00:04:08.15 The Lamb slain from the foundation 00:04:08.18\00:04:12.84 His worthy of our praise 00:04:12.87\00:04:19.84 Give Him glory 00:04:19.87\00:04:26.04 Give Him glory 00:04:26.07\00:04:30.98 Lifting holy hands towards heaven 00:04:31.01\00:04:36.77 Worship Christ the Lord 00:04:36.80\00:04:41.59 Praise Him, Praise Him 00:04:42.61\00:04:48.21 Praise the name of the Lord 00:04:48.24\00:04:53.99 Let all heaven and earth proclaim it 00:04:54.02\00:04:58.90 That Jesus Christ is Lord 00:04:58.93\00:05:05.40 Praise Him, praise Him 00:05:05.43\00:05:08.25 Jesus our blessed Redeemer 00:05:08.28\00:05:11.11 Praise Him, praise Him 00:05:11.14\00:05:13.94 Every in joyful song 00:05:13.97\00:05:17.52 Give Him glory 00:05:21.13\00:05:27.57 Give our God all the glory 00:05:27.60\00:05:32.35 Lifting holy hands towards heaven 00:05:32.38\00:05:38.66 Worship Christ the Lord 00:05:38.69\00:05:44.14 Worship Christ the Lord 00:05:44.17\00:05:51.00 Worship Christ the Lord 00:05:51.03\00:05:58.00 Thank you, Danny. 00:06:08.55\00:06:09.61 You know, Danny is one of my favorite singers 00:06:09.64\00:06:11.31 because he really preaches a sermon in his songs. 00:06:11.34\00:06:16.02 I just love the way he sings because he's telling a story 00:06:16.05\00:06:19.28 and he does it for the glory of God. 00:06:19.31\00:06:22.00 Once again welcome, and if you are just joining us, 00:06:22.03\00:06:24.55 our special guest today is Jeremy Dixon from New Zealand. 00:06:24.58\00:06:28.63 And I'm gonna share a scripture 00:06:28.66\00:06:29.99 that is very applicable to Jeremy's life. 00:06:30.02\00:06:33.64 And that is Proverbs 16:3, 00:06:33.67\00:06:37.10 the New King James version says this, 00:06:37.13\00:06:40.19 "Commit your works to the Lord 00:06:40.22\00:06:42.25 and your thoughts will be established." 00:06:42.28\00:06:44.84 The NIV says it this way, 00:06:44.87\00:06:47.33 "Commit to the Lord whatever you do 00:06:47.36\00:06:50.45 and your plans will succeed." 00:06:50.48\00:06:53.82 And Jeremy is someone 00:06:53.85\00:06:55.69 who is definitely committed to the Lord 00:06:55.72\00:06:58.03 and who has committed his plan to the Lord. 00:06:58.06\00:07:00.48 And God has given him incredible success. 00:07:00.51\00:07:03.26 Jeremy, once again 00:07:03.29\00:07:04.40 we're so glad that you are here. 00:07:04.43\00:07:05.94 Great to be here. 00:07:05.97\00:07:07.00 This is actually your third trip to 3ABN. 00:07:07.03\00:07:10.55 You've been coming over and doing programming. 00:07:10.58\00:07:12.42 We're gonna announce that in just a moment. 00:07:12.45\00:07:15.04 And you know, what I admire about you, 00:07:15.07\00:07:17.92 our programmers are not paid to come here. 00:07:17.95\00:07:22.45 What they do is, they have to pay their own expenses 00:07:22.48\00:07:24.51 and he's is traveling all the way from New Zealand 00:07:24.54\00:07:26.59 and it's costs you $10,000 a trip, hasn't it? 00:07:26.62\00:07:30.01 So that shows your dedication 00:07:30.04\00:07:32.78 to the project that we have you on. 00:07:32.81\00:07:35.22 I'm very committed to 3ABN as well. 00:07:35.25\00:07:37.36 Praise the Lord. 00:07:37.39\00:07:38.98 Tell us a little bit about growing up? 00:07:39.01\00:07:43.32 Did you inherit "the Adventist faith" 00:07:43.35\00:07:46.86 or did you grow up in an Adventist home 00:07:46.89\00:07:48.57 or how did you become an Adventist? 00:07:48.60\00:07:50.86 I didn't have any kind of religious upbringing at all 00:07:50.89\00:07:53.16 or any kind of Christian upbringing. 00:07:53.19\00:07:55.28 I have wonderful, wonderful parents 00:07:55.31\00:07:57.29 and a great upbringing. 00:07:57.32\00:07:58.72 And it wasn't until I was at high school 00:07:58.75\00:08:00.66 at a normal state high school. 00:08:00.69\00:08:02.51 I met a friend who is an Adventist. 00:08:02.54\00:08:04.68 And we became very good friends 00:08:04.71\00:08:06.15 and I went along to some news activities. 00:08:06.18\00:08:08.10 And develop some new friendships as well. 00:08:08.13\00:08:10.49 About that time I was thinking a lot about life 00:08:10.52\00:08:12.47 and death and that type of thing. 00:08:12.50\00:08:14.30 And death really scared me. 00:08:14.33\00:08:15.60 I was kind of, you know, death is, 00:08:15.63\00:08:17.01 you get to the end of your life 00:08:17.04\00:08:18.07 and it's just black and that's it. 00:08:18.10\00:08:20.94 I thought what was the point of life 00:08:20.97\00:08:22.22 if you just die at the end of it. 00:08:22.25\00:08:24.23 And at that same point in time, 00:08:24.26\00:08:25.51 you know, became acquainted 00:08:25.54\00:08:26.59 with the Adventist Christian message, 00:08:26.62\00:08:28.94 and just you know, 00:08:28.97\00:08:30.14 what just follows after the death, 00:08:30.17\00:08:31.65 you know, we can live forever. 00:08:31.68\00:08:33.85 And that's what really grasped me 00:08:33.88\00:08:35.25 along with the prophecies of the-- 00:08:35.28\00:08:37.45 they gave the evidence that the Bible is true. 00:08:37.48\00:08:40.05 And that was pretty much my stepping stone 00:08:40.08\00:08:42.09 to becoming a Christian. 00:08:42.12\00:08:43.48 Amen, glory. 00:08:43.51\00:08:45.04 Now, you and your precious wife Faraday, 00:08:45.07\00:08:47.04 how long you've been married? 00:08:47.07\00:08:48.24 12 years now? That's right. 00:08:48.27\00:08:49.80 And like I said, at the beginning 00:08:49.83\00:08:51.74 I'd love to adopt both of these. 00:08:51.77\00:08:53.22 You're just a precious couple and you-- 00:08:53.25\00:08:57.61 did you meet her through church 00:08:57.64\00:08:59.73 or when you were working at the sanitarium? 00:08:59.76\00:09:02.10 Oh, we actually grew up 00:09:02.13\00:09:03.16 in the same town of Christchurch 00:09:03.19\00:09:05.55 and went Adventist Churches down there. 00:09:05.58\00:09:07.61 But never ever rub shoulders that we can remember. 00:09:07.64\00:09:11.47 One thing was my wife is seven years younger. 00:09:11.50\00:09:13.16 So when I was 20 she was 13, 00:09:13.19\00:09:14.99 so probably would have been appropriate that age. Yes. 00:09:15.02\00:09:18.14 But we both moved to Auckland, independently. 00:09:18.17\00:09:20.72 And meet each other at Adventist Church 00:09:20.75\00:09:23.63 and that's how we got know each other. 00:09:23.66\00:09:25.20 Oh, and the Lord brought you two together, no doubt. 00:09:25.23\00:09:27.52 That's right. 00:09:27.55\00:09:28.58 So, you went to work for-- 00:09:28.61\00:09:31.12 tell us what the Sanitarium is in New Zealand? 00:09:31.15\00:09:33.84 Well, Sanitarium is a fantastic company. 00:09:33.87\00:09:36.21 It's the biggest cereal manufacturer in New Zealand, 00:09:36.24\00:09:38.66 kind of lot like Kelloggs of New Zealand. 00:09:38.69\00:09:40.83 And it's owned entirely 00:09:40.86\00:09:42.16 by the Seventh-day Adventist Church 00:09:42.19\00:09:44.06 and all the funds go towards the mission of the church, 00:09:44.09\00:09:46.66 which is fantastic. 00:09:46.69\00:09:47.72 Amen. And-- 00:09:47.75\00:09:49.28 What did you do there? And I was in-- 00:09:49.31\00:09:50.76 I started off in finance for two years 00:09:50.79\00:09:52.92 and then eight years after that 00:09:52.95\00:09:54.25 I worked in the marketing department. 00:09:54.28\00:09:56.08 And I was you know, running all the brains, 00:09:56.11\00:09:58.01 you know, which involve marketing of promotions, 00:09:58.04\00:10:00.59 TV commercials, and all that sort of things 00:10:00.62\00:10:02.80 and events and across all the different cereal brands 00:10:02.83\00:10:05.90 and that was just such great fun. 00:10:05.93\00:10:07.47 Oh, I'm sure, it was. 00:10:07.50\00:10:08.81 They've got wonderful things, we-- 00:10:08.84\00:10:11.12 JD ordered the biscuits? 00:10:11.15\00:10:13.80 Weet-bix. Weet-- yeah. 00:10:13.83\00:10:15.57 They're pronounced Weet-bix Say it again. 00:10:15.60\00:10:16.98 Weet-bix. 00:10:17.01\00:10:18.04 It's a number one breakfast cereal in New Zealand. 00:10:18.07\00:10:19.87 And it, we really enjoyed that 00:10:19.90\00:10:21.67 when we were down there in New Zealand. 00:10:21.70\00:10:22.91 It's such a beautiful country and just lovely. 00:10:22.94\00:10:26.32 Now, you went from being employed 00:10:26.35\00:10:29.81 with the largest cereal company in New Zealand 00:10:29.84\00:10:33.73 to starting your own cafe. 00:10:33.76\00:10:36.86 How on earth did you make that transition? 00:10:38.26\00:10:41.59 What happened? 00:10:41.62\00:10:42.65 And there are few things that happened. 00:10:42.68\00:10:43.71 Firstly, Verity and I went to health retreat in Queensland, 00:10:43.74\00:10:47.51 where we had, you know, juice fasting, 00:10:47.54\00:10:49.23 healthy, vegetarian meals, 00:10:49.26\00:10:52.02 all the treatments to go with it 00:10:52.05\00:10:53.43 and it was just a great experience. 00:10:53.46\00:10:54.80 We came back with so much energy and vitality. 00:10:54.83\00:10:58.17 And we tried to find, you know, healthy food 00:10:58.20\00:10:59.89 and it's so difficult to find food that, 00:10:59.92\00:11:02.63 you know, isn't full of processed, 00:11:02.66\00:11:04.55 sugar, flour, meat, all those type of things. 00:11:04.58\00:11:08.19 So we kind of thought it would be great 00:11:08.22\00:11:09.74 to have a really healthy food outlet. 00:11:09.77\00:11:12.57 And about the same time 00:11:12.60\00:11:13.64 I kind of wanted a bit of an event show, 00:11:13.67\00:11:15.30 I wanted to do something for God, 00:11:15.33\00:11:17.66 some kind of mission, some kind of a calling, 00:11:17.69\00:11:20.62 and I kind of started thinking about those two things, 00:11:20.65\00:11:22.79 I thought, well, why not open a cafe. 00:11:22.82\00:11:25.50 Or-- well, a cafe, and restaurant in New Zealand, 00:11:25.53\00:11:27.55 they're kind of interchangeable term so-- 00:11:27.58\00:11:29.00 Okay, okay. 00:11:29.03\00:11:30.50 So you did and this is you know, 00:11:30.53\00:11:34.25 something that I've learned from Jeremy. 00:11:34.28\00:11:36.14 He said that about 90% of cafe's fail. 00:11:36.17\00:11:38.69 Is that correct? That's right. 00:11:38.72\00:11:40.33 And he was a person who thought that 00:11:40.36\00:11:44.37 because he was doing it for God, 00:11:44.40\00:11:46.91 God was gonna workout the miracles for him. 00:11:46.94\00:11:49.64 Tell us about the beginning of your cafe? 00:11:49.67\00:11:53.35 How you started and the lessons God thought you in hurry? 00:11:53.38\00:11:56.51 You see, there are very many lessons I learned. 00:11:56.54\00:11:59.34 Also I read Ellen White, 00:11:59.37\00:12:00.74 Ellen White has got some guidance 00:12:00.77\00:12:02.37 in terms of what a restaurant should look like, 00:12:02.40\00:12:06.58 probably back on, you know, in the early 1900s 00:12:06.61\00:12:08.34 so I read that, and obviously just found exact prescription 00:12:08.37\00:12:11.07 because times have changed. 00:12:11.10\00:12:12.18 I kind of use that as my blueprint 00:12:12.21\00:12:14.15 for like what a restaurant would look like? 00:12:14.18\00:12:17.10 So I just looked around Auckland 00:12:17.13\00:12:19.36 and there is always a lot of cafes or restaurants for sale, 00:12:19.39\00:12:22.69 they're always going out of business. 00:12:22.72\00:12:24.20 So I found one on a good location, 00:12:24.23\00:12:25.84 in the middle of Auckland, Central Auckland, 00:12:25.87\00:12:28.33 and put an offer on it, 00:12:28.36\00:12:30.02 and I bought the business off the existing owner. 00:12:30.05\00:12:32.51 So you take on the lease, 00:12:32.54\00:12:33.57 you take on all of the equipment, 00:12:33.60\00:12:35.83 tables and chairs and that sort of things. 00:12:35.86\00:12:38.17 And so I resigned from my job and signed up this lease 00:12:38.20\00:12:42.15 and started on the adventure. 00:12:42.18\00:12:43.73 And that's amazing, so here you start-- 00:12:43.76\00:12:47.21 Now this-- did New Zealand 00:12:47.24\00:12:49.04 or Auckland have any plant based restaurants? 00:12:49.07\00:12:54.68 That's something interesting when I first started research, 00:12:54.71\00:12:56.69 and I like went to Sydney as well, 00:12:56.72\00:12:58.95 and look for Auckland and looked up all the organic, 00:12:58.98\00:13:01.57 vegetarian, similar type 00:13:01.60\00:13:03.25 healthy type restaurants and cafe, 00:13:03.28\00:13:05.26 so I could, you know, find out what people were doing 00:13:05.29\00:13:06.93 and what was successful. 00:13:06.96\00:13:08.65 One fell into that process, 00:13:08.68\00:13:09.83 there is an awful lot of closed down 00:13:09.86\00:13:12.37 vegetarian healthy restaurants, 00:13:12.40\00:13:14.17 you know, I went to Sydney and looked up all these places 00:13:14.20\00:13:16.76 and turned up and half of them were out of business, 00:13:16.79\00:13:20.07 so it's a very, very grueling unforgiving industry to bean. 00:13:20.10\00:13:24.37 Yes, it is. 00:13:24.40\00:13:25.50 But so now you started up, and you taken old cafe, 00:13:25.53\00:13:28.44 you transformed it. 00:13:28.47\00:13:30.24 What was your first day like, 00:13:30.27\00:13:31.88 when you opened up when people-- 00:13:31.91\00:13:33.78 I mean, you use the word plant based 00:13:33.81\00:13:36.03 rather than vegetarian or vegan, is that correct? 00:13:36.06\00:13:38.51 That's correct, It's just a much more acceptable term 00:13:38.54\00:13:42.38 to people who don't understand this type of things. Okay. 00:13:42.41\00:13:44.91 So when you opened up your "planed based restaurant," 00:13:44.94\00:13:49.06 what happened the first day? 00:13:49.09\00:13:50.76 Well, we took this cafe, 00:13:50.79\00:13:52.37 we basically gave it a fresh coat of paint. 00:13:52.40\00:13:55.74 You know, we just made everything beautiful, 00:13:55.77\00:13:57.91 organize the kitchen 00:13:57.94\00:13:58.97 how we wanted it for my style of food. 00:13:59.00\00:14:01.20 And I remember getting out 00:14:01.23\00:14:02.29 and we-- it is actually opened at 7 am in the morning, 00:14:02.32\00:14:05.68 I remember walking, and it's hard to chef as well 00:14:05.71\00:14:07.36 at this stage, I remember opening up-- 00:14:07.39\00:14:09.40 opening the doors, 00:14:09.43\00:14:10.69 first thing in the morning the cafe was clean, 00:14:10.72\00:14:12.49 we spent the whole last week 00:14:12.52\00:14:14.60 just getting everything perfect, 00:14:14.63\00:14:15.86 every table aligned in the right position 00:14:15.89\00:14:18.48 and I opened the door, a very yum cold dark, 00:14:18.51\00:14:23.50 you know, people were brushing by on the way to work, 00:14:23.53\00:14:26.31 and the first person came in, 00:14:26.34\00:14:28.49 and I was like sitting behind the counter 00:14:28.52\00:14:30.00 booming with excitement, my first customer, 00:14:30.03\00:14:31.80 the mission has began, 00:14:31.83\00:14:34.00 I want a cup of coffee please, caffe latte. 00:14:34.03\00:14:36.32 Oh, sorry, we don't serve coffee 00:14:36.35\00:14:37.80 because I chose not to serve coffee, 00:14:37.83\00:14:40.24 oh, okay, person walked out. 00:14:40.27\00:14:42.94 Okay, well, I can handle this. 00:14:42.97\00:14:44.35 Second person walked in, 00:14:44.38\00:14:45.41 hi, can I please have double shot latte, please. 00:14:45.44\00:14:47.99 I'm sorry, we don't serve coffee. 00:14:48.02\00:14:50.16 Third person walked in, 00:14:50.19\00:14:52.47 hi, there can I have some latte? 00:14:52.50\00:14:54.35 I'm sorry, we don't serve coffee, 00:14:54.38\00:14:56.06 he said, what you some kind of religious nut 00:14:56.09\00:14:57.81 or something and stormed out the door. 00:14:57.84\00:15:00.35 I put my head and I'm thinking, 00:15:00.38\00:15:01.49 oh, no I've just left everything behind, 00:15:01.52\00:15:03.86 this is just gonna be terrible 00:15:03.89\00:15:05.14 my first experience was just feeling terrible, 00:15:05.17\00:15:08.46 here I have you know, invested all this money, 00:15:08.49\00:15:11.13 my house was on the line, personal finance, 00:15:11.16\00:15:13.40 I just saw bankruptcy coming 00:15:13.43\00:15:15.82 from these first three people that walked in. 00:15:15.85\00:15:18.14 But that is not the way it turned out 00:15:18.17\00:15:20.53 because you actually have 00:15:20.56\00:15:22.78 one of the most successful restaurants in New Zealand 00:15:22.81\00:15:27.90 and not only one but now two. 00:15:27.93\00:15:31.76 At first you thought God was going to, 00:15:31.79\00:15:36.70 I guess worked miracles for you 00:15:36.73\00:15:38.91 because you were doing this for His glory. 00:15:38.94\00:15:41.03 You were trying to teach the health message. 00:15:41.06\00:15:43.39 Did He work miracles for you? 00:15:44.82\00:15:46.40 Or how did He broke things out for you? 00:15:46.43\00:15:48.46 God worked tremendous miracles and gave me a lot of guidance, 00:15:48.49\00:15:53.10 but not in the way I thought it would happen. 00:15:53.13\00:15:56.30 I thought I'm doing this for God, 00:15:56.33\00:15:58.99 I'm putting everything on the line, 00:15:59.02\00:16:00.38 and say crossing my life for Him-- 00:16:00.41\00:16:02.72 for this, for this venture. 00:16:02.75\00:16:05.37 And I thought He would just make it all easy, 00:16:05.40\00:16:07.16 He would just make it happen, He bring the customers, 00:16:07.19\00:16:09.18 the business sort of worked out. 00:16:09.21\00:16:10.64 It will just instantly grow to be this prosperous business. 00:16:10.67\00:16:14.99 And I was very wrong, 00:16:15.02\00:16:16.73 God had a few years that he wanted to develop my faith 00:16:16.76\00:16:20.87 to get that happening. 00:16:20.90\00:16:22.05 Yes. 00:16:22.08\00:16:23.15 And it has happened but you know, I was thinking 00:16:23.18\00:16:27.03 probably one of the reasons you've been so successful 00:16:27.06\00:16:29.72 where others haven't 00:16:29.75\00:16:30.78 is because you had that financial background, 00:16:30.81\00:16:33.35 you have that marketing background, 00:16:33.38\00:16:35.55 because you can have the best food in the world, 00:16:35.58\00:16:38.77 but if somebody is, 00:16:38.80\00:16:41.04 doesn't have the business acumen to go along with it. 00:16:41.07\00:16:44.28 Then it's very difficult to make it succeed. 00:16:44.31\00:16:46.85 God lead some fantastic things 00:16:46.88\00:16:48.49 working at sanitarium, with some great business skills, 00:16:48.52\00:16:51.08 but I kind of almost thought I knew it all, 00:16:51.11\00:16:53.68 and there's nothing like getting 00:16:53.71\00:16:54.74 and then running your own small business. 00:16:54.77\00:16:56.64 We had to do every part of the business, 00:16:56.67\00:16:58.81 you know, you're doing accounting, 00:16:58.84\00:17:00.39 human resources, piece control, 00:17:00.42\00:17:04.22 hygiene, hiring staff, 00:17:04.25\00:17:06.85 I tell you, you got your cash tray is working, decorating, 00:17:06.88\00:17:10.26 marketing, there are just so many heads you have to wear, 00:17:10.29\00:17:13.22 and I to learn very quickly, 00:17:13.25\00:17:14.48 so to do all these different tasks. 00:17:14.51\00:17:17.13 Now, before we talk about your cookbooks 00:17:17.16\00:17:19.44 because Jeremy has the number one 00:17:19.47\00:17:21.67 best selling cookbook in New Zealand 00:17:21.70\00:17:23.56 and it's just amazing. 00:17:23.59\00:17:24.68 I love your cookbooks. 00:17:24.71\00:17:26.17 But before we talk about that, 00:17:26.20\00:17:27.80 I want to talk about the second business 00:17:27.83\00:17:29.44 because now you have a very iconic 00:17:29.47\00:17:32.59 eating place in Auckland. 00:17:32.62\00:17:34.08 It's one of the top cafes in Auckland, 00:17:34.11\00:17:38.09 you have the second store 00:17:38.12\00:17:40.53 and you run it in an interesting way. 00:17:40.56\00:17:42.31 How do you run the second cafe? 00:17:42.34\00:17:44.44 Yes, I have two cafes but I have one kitchen, 00:17:44.47\00:17:47.56 so one of the cafes has a big kitchen and in the morning-- 00:17:47.59\00:17:50.77 we're all counter service food, so the food isn't-- 00:17:50.80\00:17:53.61 it's not like a traditional restaurant 00:17:53.64\00:17:54.90 where you place an order, and it's gets made up. Okay. 00:17:54.93\00:17:57.40 Where lunch time people want their food fast, 00:17:57.43\00:18:00.18 if you got a half hour lunch break, 00:18:00.21\00:18:01.57 you want your food straightaway, 00:18:01.60\00:18:03.50 so in the morning they-- she is prepare all the food, 00:18:03.53\00:18:07.16 load up the cabin full of salads, curries, meals. 00:18:07.19\00:18:11.15 Now at the lunch time we serve 00:18:11.18\00:18:12.23 over the counter to people direct. Yes. 00:18:12.26\00:18:14.61 From in the morning this one kitchen 00:18:14.64\00:18:15.80 makes up all the food for both stores, 00:18:15.83\00:18:18.12 half of it goes in the cabinet for the one down street store 00:18:18.15\00:18:21.22 which is the bigger one 00:18:21.25\00:18:22.40 and half of it gets put into buckets 00:18:22.43\00:18:25.28 and just brought in courier 00:18:25.31\00:18:26.54 and then sends to around the other store. 00:18:26.57\00:18:29.25 And now they are not trickling in one at the time 00:18:29.28\00:18:31.73 asking for coffee but you've got as you say down 00:18:31.76\00:18:34.75 under a queue that's a line, 00:18:34.78\00:18:37.28 they're queued up for quite some-- 00:18:37.31\00:18:40.31 Yep in the lunch time period 00:18:40.34\00:18:42.55 between 12 and 2 pm as just usually queues at the door. 00:18:42.58\00:18:46.61 And we treat them quite quickly too. 00:18:46.64\00:18:48.37 Yeah, that's amazing. 00:18:48.40\00:18:50.01 And I remember the first when I-- 00:18:50.04\00:18:51.35 'cause in those first 30 days when it was really tough. 00:18:51.38\00:18:53.86 I remember looking up one day and seeing a queue out the door 00:18:53.89\00:18:56.43 and down the footpath. 00:18:56.46\00:18:57.49 I'm like wow, this is incredible. 00:18:57.52\00:18:59.66 In that first moment happen I just, you know, 00:18:59.69\00:19:01.31 I was just tingling inside 'cause I can see that 00:19:01.34\00:19:03.20 God had brought people along and already placed it. 00:19:03.23\00:19:06.00 And people were interested in this really wheat food 00:19:06.03\00:19:08.43 which is is really strange to some people. 00:19:08.46\00:19:10.67 It is strange to some people, but you've had some incredible, 00:19:10.70\00:19:14.03 your customers had some incredible stories, 00:19:14.06\00:19:16.19 haven't they? Yes. 00:19:16.22\00:19:17.25 And yours is more of a-- 00:19:17.28\00:19:19.59 I mean, when Jeremy when I say that 00:19:19.62\00:19:21.86 he is like a chef evangelist he's really on a mission, 00:19:21.89\00:19:24.70 because you email 15,000 customers every month? 00:19:24.73\00:19:30.55 Every week. Every week. 00:19:30.58\00:19:32.46 What's in your email? 00:19:32.49\00:19:33.76 So we change our menu every week 00:19:33.79\00:19:35.02 so as different produce comes through the seasons. 00:19:35.05\00:19:38.73 We change our menu service tell about, 00:19:38.76\00:19:40.98 it changes every week. 00:19:41.01\00:19:42.41 You know, our hot meals change every day as well. 00:19:42.44\00:19:44.36 So people are coming along, there's always something new. 00:19:44.39\00:19:47.37 And so we send an email our each week 00:19:47.40\00:19:49.90 with the menu for the week. 00:19:49.93\00:19:51.55 We have some kind of a health tip, 00:19:51.58\00:19:54.49 maybe some kind of ingredient profile 00:19:54.52\00:19:56.77 or some kind of cooking tip. 00:19:56.80\00:19:58.30 We have a recipe as well. 00:19:58.33\00:19:59.53 So just kind of keeping, 00:19:59.56\00:20:00.85 it's just not about eating food, 00:20:00.88\00:20:02.31 but encouraging my customers to, 00:20:02.34\00:20:04.30 you know, exercise and do those great things. 00:20:04.33\00:20:06.38 So they can have health and vitality. 00:20:06.41\00:20:08.79 And have you had customers come in 00:20:08.82\00:20:10.86 who have shared testimonies with you 00:20:10.89\00:20:13.23 how this is making a difference in their life? 00:20:13.26\00:20:15.66 Yeah, that's most exciting part, 00:20:15.69\00:20:16.92 people just say, you know, I've tried, you know, 00:20:16.95\00:20:18.92 using your recipes, eating your food, 00:20:18.95\00:20:21.12 you know, I'm becoming healthier, 00:20:21.15\00:20:22.31 got more vitality. 00:20:22.34\00:20:23.93 A lot of people say they come to Revive for lunch 00:20:23.96\00:20:26.66 and they go back to their desks 00:20:26.69\00:20:27.73 and they can keep working, 00:20:27.76\00:20:28.79 they don't just come here you know, 00:20:28.82\00:20:29.85 want to go to sleep when they come back to the desk. 00:20:29.88\00:20:32.15 I mean, people who, you know, have their families 00:20:32.18\00:20:34.48 are eating healthier, it's just great to see 00:20:34.51\00:20:36.01 the people can actually change their life 00:20:36.04\00:20:38.52 when they receive this health message. 00:20:38.55\00:20:40.36 And have you had anybody with like diabetes 00:20:40.39\00:20:43.01 or anything who has, because of your health tips 00:20:43.04\00:20:45.81 who is beginning to overcome that? 00:20:45.84\00:20:48.84 Yes, I have several people have diabetes, 00:20:48.87\00:20:51.30 who had diabetes and their score comes down 00:20:51.33\00:20:53.74 considerably after even cooking from our cookbooks 00:20:53.77\00:20:56.80 for just a couple of weeks. 00:20:56.83\00:20:58.62 Very quick if you start eating healthy food, 00:20:58.65\00:21:00.71 you can make health changes. 00:21:00.74\00:21:01.77 Oh, that's-- Almost instantly. 00:21:01.80\00:21:03.25 That's so gratifying, isn't it? That is awesome. 00:21:03.28\00:21:05.54 So now, the other thing that you have yet a third business 00:21:05.57\00:21:11.01 if you will, is you developed a very popular item 00:21:11.04\00:21:17.74 for your restaurant called the frooze balls. 00:21:17.77\00:21:20.14 Tell us about the frooze balls? 00:21:20.17\00:21:22.23 On the Revive we used to make this little, 00:21:22.26\00:21:24.55 frooze nut balls, so it would get, 00:21:24.58\00:21:26.58 nuts dried fruits and dry nuts, 00:21:26.61\00:21:28.44 put in a blender and then roll them into little balls. 00:21:28.47\00:21:31.87 So like dried apricots and almonds. 00:21:31.90\00:21:34.47 Almonds, dates, cashews. Sounds delicious. 00:21:34.50\00:21:37.42 I roll them in coconut and put them in the new bags 00:21:37.45\00:21:39.79 and sell them, people just love them, 00:21:39.82\00:21:41.40 they are just great healthy treat, 00:21:41.43\00:21:43.25 except they just took ages to make. 00:21:43.28\00:21:45.11 My staff has been hours rolling these balls, 00:21:45.14\00:21:47.83 and the blenders would always break down 00:21:47.86\00:21:49.43 because of all the nuts 00:21:49.46\00:21:50.49 you know, blenders don't like too many nuts, 00:21:50.52\00:21:51.89 nuts going through them. 00:21:51.92\00:21:53.44 I was talking to a friend of mine who is an engineer, 00:21:53.47\00:21:56.09 and see look this just taking ages 00:21:56.12\00:21:57.87 and he said, well, I can make a machine to build those, 00:21:57.90\00:22:00.65 to make those, and he did. 00:22:00.68\00:22:03.20 And he made this little machine contraption, 00:22:03.23\00:22:05.18 we put the frozen nuts in the top, 00:22:05.21\00:22:07.69 comes down, it weighs them, 00:22:07.72\00:22:09.52 it puts them into this press that compresses them, 00:22:09.55\00:22:13.00 comes out the end roast with coconut coat, 00:22:13.03\00:22:15.62 and this machine makes these lovely frooze balls. 00:22:15.65\00:22:18.32 And we start a little company together 00:22:18.35\00:22:20.96 and we now sell them to 500 stores in New Zealand. 00:22:20.99\00:22:24.06 So there are a good little health product. 00:22:24.09\00:22:26.29 And so this has become a business on its own, has it? 00:22:26.32\00:22:28.84 Exactly, just by accident. 00:22:28.87\00:22:30.73 So, Jeremy, how did you, 00:22:30.76\00:22:33.72 you know, as far as your training for cooking 00:22:33.75\00:22:36.38 and all of this to become a chef, 00:22:36.41\00:22:38.56 how do you go about developing your recipes, 00:22:38.59\00:22:41.49 because you now have four cookbooks, 00:22:41.52\00:22:45.39 the first two were vegetarian, and the second two were vegan, 00:22:45.42\00:22:49.44 but how did you go about developing the recipes 00:22:49.47\00:22:54.32 for the restaurant and for your cookbooks? 00:22:54.35\00:22:57.92 When first started I thought of doing a chef course, 00:22:57.95\00:23:00.94 that's a four year course, but the more I looked into it, 00:23:00.97\00:23:03.54 it's all about chef course is about cooking meat 00:23:03.57\00:23:07.15 using all sort of white flour, sugar, butter to make pastries, 00:23:07.18\00:23:11.75 matching wines, 00:23:11.78\00:23:13.02 is that you not very much healthy cooking schools 00:23:13.05\00:23:15.16 you learn in a chef's course. 00:23:15.19\00:23:16.49 Okay, so for some of our viewers 00:23:16.52\00:23:18.37 who may not be familiar with the health message. 00:23:18.40\00:23:21.13 Why aren't those ingredients healthy? 00:23:21.16\00:23:23.31 Very highly processed, 00:23:23.34\00:23:25.35 there is a lot of animals products in there, 00:23:25.38\00:23:26.97 full of cholesterol, and it's just a very-- 00:23:27.00\00:23:29.58 just full of processed food, 00:23:30.82\00:23:32.02 when if you are eating good health food ingredients, 00:23:32.05\00:23:35.20 you're using you know, 00:23:35.23\00:23:36.26 natural fresh fruit and vegetables, 00:23:36.29\00:23:38.86 whole grains that haven't been processed, 00:23:38.89\00:23:41.08 your body can process some in, 00:23:41.11\00:23:42.24 you know, the static show that vegetarians live longer. 00:23:42.27\00:23:45.86 Okay, so how did you go about developing these, 00:23:45.89\00:23:49.46 I mean, you didn't want to go to the traditional school, 00:23:49.49\00:23:52.29 what did you do? 00:23:52.32\00:23:53.39 So I hired some chefs, 00:23:53.42\00:23:55.63 and I've a mix of chefs over the years, 00:23:55.66\00:23:57.10 I think I have around about five or six, 00:23:57.13\00:23:59.04 and each of them have really contributed to Revive 00:23:59.07\00:24:01.15 and I've learnt a lot along the way. 00:24:01.18\00:24:03.04 And a point in time came where chef resigned 00:24:03.07\00:24:05.35 and I just thought it, okay, I want to be the chef for year, 00:24:05.38\00:24:07.48 so I actually took on the chef's role. 00:24:07.51\00:24:09.65 From everything I've learnt and developed more dishes, 00:24:09.68\00:24:12.51 using the whole foods that I use, 00:24:12.54\00:24:15.47 and that's kinds of where I develop them. 00:24:15.50\00:24:17.27 And I taste a lot of recipes at home, 00:24:17.30\00:24:19.67 I've a life group every Friday. 00:24:19.70\00:24:21.47 And what is a life group? 00:24:21.50\00:24:23.29 Like a small group where friends come along, 00:24:23.32\00:24:26.08 we have a meal together, catch up pray together, 00:24:26.11\00:24:29.31 study the word, it's just a great encouraging time. 00:24:29.34\00:24:32.17 So I weighs them, always try my new meals 00:24:32.20\00:24:34.75 at on my life group people. 00:24:34.78\00:24:36.77 Okay. 00:24:36.80\00:24:37.83 And what do you do? 00:24:37.86\00:24:39.26 Do you just look and take a-- 00:24:39.29\00:24:42.00 like a dish that's maybe not so healthy, 00:24:42.03\00:24:44.19 and just make it healthier. 00:24:44.22\00:24:45.27 It's my favorite way to developing dishes, 00:24:45.30\00:24:47.35 taking something that's really yummy, 00:24:47.38\00:24:48.66 and really unhealthy, 00:24:48.69\00:24:50.14 getting rid of all the unhealthy ingredients, 00:24:50.17\00:24:52.51 and then substituting with whole food 00:24:52.54\00:24:54.21 plant based ingredients, 00:24:54.24\00:24:55.90 and making something that still taste good, 00:24:55.93\00:24:58.47 and people can recognize from the original dish. 00:24:58.50\00:25:00.99 You know, I don't know, 00:25:01.02\00:25:02.05 if should say this on television, 00:25:02.08\00:25:03.55 but I am going to use that one thing about Jeremy, 00:25:03.58\00:25:07.35 I've kind of been holding this back, 00:25:07.38\00:25:08.99 but Jeremy's gonna be doing a cooking program for us, 00:25:09.02\00:25:11.51 so we're so excited. 00:25:11.54\00:25:12.64 He is not just going to he's finished-- 00:25:12.67\00:25:14.84 you've done 26 cooking programs 00:25:14.87\00:25:18.59 and the one thing that is so amazing for all the staff, 00:25:18.62\00:25:24.41 some of whom are not Adventist, 00:25:24.44\00:25:27.02 some of the crew are not Adventist, 00:25:27.05\00:25:29.10 some of them don't follow the health message, 00:25:29.13\00:25:31.11 and they love every dish that you've made, 00:25:31.14\00:25:34.42 and that's rather unique, I would say. 00:25:34.45\00:25:37.35 So one thing that I am impressed about your food, 00:25:37.38\00:25:41.12 is it is so tasty and it's always so beautiful. 00:25:41.15\00:25:44.11 Right. 00:25:44.14\00:25:45.25 But it just easy to do too, you make it easy. 00:25:45.28\00:25:49.70 And so that's very impressive. 00:25:49.73\00:25:51.66 I think working at cafe for 10 years, 00:25:51.69\00:25:53.61 I mean, you've got to keep your cost down, 00:25:53.64\00:25:55.02 so we use easy to find ingredients 00:25:55.05\00:25:56.96 that don't cost much, 00:25:56.99\00:25:58.24 we got labor cost, so we make sure we developing 00:25:58.27\00:26:01.31 and crafting our meals the easy way, 00:26:01.34\00:26:03.84 taking lots of shortcuts, so having been in business, 00:26:03.87\00:26:06.37 forces you to make things easier and cheaper 00:26:06.40\00:26:09.40 and also yeah, if it doesn't sell 00:26:09.43\00:26:11.92 people are not gonna buy it. 00:26:11.95\00:26:12.99 So we've got to have food, 00:26:13.02\00:26:14.32 that people are gonna want to eat. 00:26:14.35\00:26:16.08 Yes, amen. 00:26:16.11\00:26:17.34 So here and that is true, 00:26:17.37\00:26:20.18 I mean, when your cookbooks were put out, 00:26:20.21\00:26:22.70 you're using recipes, that you know, 00:26:22.73\00:26:26.27 are tried and true and people enjoy. 00:26:26.30\00:26:29.23 But the thing that I was thinking about is, 00:26:29.26\00:26:31.42 now you've got two successful cafes, 00:26:31.45\00:26:34.63 you've got the frooze ball machine, 00:26:34.66\00:26:36.65 how on earth, I mean, 00:26:36.68\00:26:39.03 when did you find the time 00:26:39.06\00:26:40.95 to start thinking about a cookbook? 00:26:40.98\00:26:43.97 You know, I thought about it for many years before I did it. 00:26:44.00\00:26:46.24 And it gets to the point 00:26:46.27\00:26:47.39 where you just have to say I just got to do it. 00:26:47.42\00:26:49.69 I think part of being in business for 10 years 00:26:49.72\00:26:51.91 you start to learn how to delegate properly, 00:26:51.94\00:26:54.27 so you know, I can get my staff 00:26:54.30\00:26:55.72 to run the cafe when I am not there, 00:26:55.75\00:26:57.61 so I've set it up with great system, 00:26:57.64\00:26:59.46 so I can run, so I can over here 00:26:59.49\00:27:01.57 and film cooking programs. 00:27:01.60\00:27:04.43 So you just, use that carve out time, 00:27:04.46\00:27:06.39 and focus on the important things. 00:27:06.42\00:27:08.13 And you know one thing that I've learned about you 00:27:08.16\00:27:10.73 is that you're extremely organized, 00:27:10.76\00:27:12.77 so that helps a whole lot. 00:27:12.80\00:27:15.08 So you've now sold 100-- 00:27:15.11\00:27:18.84 over a 100,000 cookbooks in New Zealand, 00:27:18.87\00:27:21.26 and I said, the number one seller 00:27:21.29\00:27:24.48 as of cookbooks of all kinds, 00:27:24.51\00:27:27.67 not just the-- 00:27:27.70\00:27:31.99 Vegetarian. 00:27:32.02\00:27:33.10 Vegetarian plant base, 00:27:33.13\00:27:34.22 I was trying to use your word plant based. 00:27:34.25\00:27:36.31 And these are the Revive cookbooks, 00:27:36.34\00:27:39.96 and you have the revive cafe cookbook, 00:27:39.99\00:27:43.37 one, two, three and four. 00:27:43.40\00:27:45.29 The first two are vegetarian but not vegan. 00:27:45.32\00:27:49.10 And these two are vegan. Great. 00:27:49.13\00:27:51.23 Now what I like about your cookbooks and I don't-- 00:27:51.26\00:27:55.57 I wish we had some pictures to show. 00:27:55.60\00:27:57.93 But every single recipe has a full picture next to it. 00:27:57.96\00:28:04.93 so you see the presentation, they're beautiful recipes, 00:28:04.96\00:28:10.06 beautiful pictures, it just makes my mouth water. 00:28:10.09\00:28:13.75 I want to get in there and try your recipes. 00:28:13.78\00:28:16.60 And you also have various 00:28:16.63\00:28:19.26 besides the mouth watering of these given salads, 00:28:19.29\00:28:25.27 hot pot stir fries and main meal soups, 00:28:25.30\00:28:28.61 sides, sweet things, flavor boosters. 00:28:28.64\00:28:32.08 But you also put little tips in here. 00:28:32.11\00:28:34.71 Tell us about the tips that you do? 00:28:34.74\00:28:37.59 Yes, every page has some kind of a tip on how to cook faster, 00:28:37.62\00:28:41.90 or profiles ingredients that people can use. 00:28:41.93\00:28:44.73 There is actually a huge range of different ingredients 00:28:44.76\00:28:47.25 you can use in plant based cooking. 00:28:47.28\00:28:49.18 There is no shortage of ingredients. 00:28:49.21\00:28:50.56 So I try to profile everything that people can use. 00:28:50.59\00:28:52.94 Well, give us an example of a tip 00:28:52.97\00:28:54.84 because something else you gonna be seeing a lot of Jeremy 00:28:54.87\00:28:58.19 because we're doing some 60 second health tips 00:28:58.22\00:29:01.59 and I guess their health tips good easy cooking tips. 00:29:01.62\00:29:05.47 Yes. 00:29:05.50\00:29:06.57 But give us something 00:29:06.60\00:29:09.14 that you could let me maybe cook ahead and keep on store. 00:29:09.17\00:29:11.93 And then use in a multiple recipes. 00:29:11.96\00:29:14.24 Oh, there is lots of things for example, frozen bananas, 00:29:14.27\00:29:16.67 keeping frozen bananas in your freezer, 00:29:16.70\00:29:18.63 instant delicious smoothie. 00:29:18.66\00:29:20.80 How to cook brown rice? 00:29:20.83\00:29:21.97 So many people are scared to cook brown rice. 00:29:22.00\00:29:24.25 But there's a very simple formula 00:29:24.28\00:29:25.70 on how to cook it perfect every time. 00:29:25.73\00:29:27.92 Cutting carrots, you can cut a carrot, 00:29:27.95\00:29:29.75 in about 20 different ways, 00:29:29.78\00:29:31.46 and they can just help vary your meals 00:29:31.49\00:29:33.31 and make look them more attractive. 00:29:33.34\00:29:34.76 Using color, you got to use, 00:29:34.79\00:29:36.27 pick all the color of the rainbow in every meal, 00:29:36.30\00:29:39.00 people eat with their eyes. 00:29:39.03\00:29:40.06 So these kind of cooking tips really help people 00:29:40.09\00:29:42.45 to you know, cook for themselves 00:29:42.48\00:29:43.84 and cook delicious meals. 00:29:43.87\00:29:46.07 Well, I have to say that one of my favorite things 00:29:46.10\00:29:49.83 that we've learned from you was the peanut butter smoothie 00:29:49.86\00:29:52.73 and the bananas, I've frozen bananas 00:29:52.76\00:29:55.24 and used in smoothies for are a long time. 00:29:55.27\00:29:58.25 But I've always put, I never even thought about it, 00:29:58.28\00:30:00.47 I just would freeze the banana whole. 00:30:00.50\00:30:02.26 Yeah. 00:30:02.29\00:30:03.39 And you know, I'd wrap it up and freeze it whole, 00:30:03.42\00:30:05.40 and then I saw you, you chopped it up, 00:30:05.43\00:30:06.90 I mean you just-- 00:30:06.93\00:30:08.00 Chopped into little chunks. 00:30:08.03\00:30:09.08 Chopped into little chunks, 00:30:09.11\00:30:10.18 and it's so much easier to work with when it is done that way. 00:30:10.21\00:30:14.51 Just a few little, just two little changes in skills 00:30:14.54\00:30:17.05 can really change your cooking experience. 00:30:17.08\00:30:19.16 Yes. Amen. 00:30:19.19\00:30:20.40 And so when you-- when you did the cookbook, 00:30:20.43\00:30:23.17 tell us about this process 00:30:23.20\00:30:26.26 because, this is not your typical cookbook, 00:30:26.29\00:30:30.35 this is a cookbook as I said 00:30:30.38\00:30:31.79 that has beautiful illustrations. 00:30:31.82\00:30:35.21 For each recipe has its a full picture 00:30:35.24\00:30:39.64 and when you did this cookbook, 00:30:39.67\00:30:43.28 you didn't trust this kitty party course. 00:30:43.31\00:30:47.00 Tell us about the process 00:30:47.03\00:30:48.23 of how you put a cookbook together? 00:30:48.26\00:30:49.85 Well, I approached some publishers to start, 00:30:49.88\00:30:51.37 well then say, I'd like to, I've got successful cafe. 00:30:51.40\00:30:53.43 Can I-- can you publish a cookbook for me? 00:30:53.46\00:30:56.34 I rang all these publishers they said, 00:30:56.37\00:30:57.78 not, too many cookbooks around, 00:30:57.81\00:30:59.42 no one wants vegetarian, and no one was interested, 00:30:59.45\00:31:02.10 so I'm like, okay, I'll do it myself. 00:31:02.13\00:31:04.23 So I hired a graphic designer. 00:31:04.26\00:31:06.42 I bought a good camera and took out photography, 00:31:06.45\00:31:08.52 so did all my photography 00:31:08.55\00:31:10.49 and I learned the graphic design program 00:31:10.52\00:31:13.99 and just basically left everything behind 00:31:14.02\00:31:17.04 and focused on it for a couple of months 00:31:17.07\00:31:18.50 and just turned out this cookbook 00:31:18.53\00:31:20.07 using all the recipes 00:31:20.10\00:31:21.81 I've learned along the years at Revive. 00:31:21.84\00:31:23.43 And here the publishers who didn't want it, 00:31:23.46\00:31:26.88 I bet when this became your number one cookbook 00:31:26.91\00:31:29.31 in New Zealand that they must have been just. 00:31:29.34\00:31:32.06 Oh, definitely, I've had many publishers approach me 00:31:32.09\00:31:34.31 since wanting to take on 00:31:34.34\00:31:35.41 and trying to publish the new ones. 00:31:35.44\00:31:37.11 I'm sure they have. 00:31:37.14\00:31:38.92 Now, Jeremy, you do things to market it, 00:31:38.95\00:31:42.12 just I mean it's just to me it's fascinating 00:31:42.15\00:31:44.79 that you took up photography. 00:31:44.82\00:31:46.94 You know how to make things look very appealing 00:31:46.97\00:31:50.66 even for the cookbook. 00:31:50.69\00:31:52.28 But are you a perfectionist or do you-- 00:31:52.31\00:31:58.01 I mean what would you say about yourself? 00:31:58.04\00:31:59.78 No, I'm more of into excellence. 00:31:59.81\00:32:01.83 Excellence. 00:32:01.86\00:32:02.90 So I believe in getting things excellent, 00:32:02.93\00:32:04.47 pushing that extra mile to get things excellent, 00:32:04.50\00:32:07.17 but the extra, extra mileage 00:32:07.20\00:32:09.43 to get to perfection is far to fast 00:32:09.46\00:32:11.44 so cookbooks aren't perfect but they're excellent, 00:32:11.47\00:32:13.94 so that's kind of how I like to live my life. 00:32:13.97\00:32:16.62 And I like that about your recipes 00:32:16.65\00:32:18.72 is that they're simple and use ingredients 00:32:18.75\00:32:20.93 that we can find it at the wholesale 00:32:20.96\00:32:25.48 or the co-op type stores 00:32:25.51\00:32:27.36 because some of the stores for us, 00:32:27.39\00:32:30.02 some of the ingredients we would hear 00:32:30.05\00:32:31.83 in the States anyway 00:32:31.86\00:32:33.08 all would go to maybe not Walmart 00:32:33.11\00:32:36.83 but they would be in most of your grocery stores, 00:32:36.86\00:32:39.12 there are few little international-- 00:32:39.15\00:32:40.47 Most of the ingredients 00:32:40.50\00:32:41.56 you can find it in your average supermarket. 00:32:41.59\00:32:43.01 Okay. 00:32:43.04\00:32:44.07 It's the occasion ingredient 00:32:44.10\00:32:45.14 you might have to go to health store. 00:32:45.17\00:32:46.34 Okay. 00:32:46.37\00:32:47.44 But now you also are doing marketing tips 00:32:47.47\00:32:50.06 on National Television there in New Zealand, 00:32:50.09\00:32:52.60 is that correct? 00:32:52.63\00:32:53.68 Cooking tips. I mean cooking tips. 00:32:53.71\00:32:54.77 That's right. Yes. 00:32:54.80\00:32:55.84 So National station there I go on 00:32:55.87\00:32:57.61 once every couple of months on there, good morning show 00:32:57.64\00:32:59.82 and demonstrate a healthier recipe 00:32:59.85\00:33:01.63 and it's lot of fun. 00:33:01.66\00:33:03.14 Yeah, and then and have you found 00:33:03.17\00:33:05.88 that by calling it plant based food 00:33:05.91\00:33:07.90 that people rather than saying vegan or vegetarian, 00:33:07.93\00:33:10.67 are people just more open to that? 00:33:10.70\00:33:12.70 Well, 80% of my customers eat meat. 00:33:12.73\00:33:15.81 They're just normal New Zealand people 00:33:15.84\00:33:17.37 that eat normal, you know. 00:33:17.40\00:33:18.75 80% of your customers. 00:33:18.78\00:33:21.57 So I need to keep that in mind with everything I'm doing, 00:33:21.60\00:33:23.83 I'm not there for vegetarian people, I'm there for people 00:33:23.86\00:33:26.29 who are just normal meat eating New Zealanders. 00:33:26.32\00:33:29.56 So it's important to use language 00:33:29.59\00:33:30.93 that doesn't scare people off 00:33:30.96\00:33:32.22 and vegan is a great thing to be but that word doesn't-- 00:33:32.25\00:33:36.84 can scare some people off who are into eating meat, 00:33:36.87\00:33:38.90 so using a word plant based or whole foods, 00:33:38.93\00:33:41.26 just explains what we do 00:33:41.29\00:33:42.76 in a more kind of consumer friendly way. 00:33:42.79\00:33:45.22 Okay. Okay. 00:33:45.25\00:33:46.70 If you've got meat eater 00:33:46.73\00:33:48.75 who are just coming back again and again 00:33:48.78\00:33:50.87 and successful enough that he had to start a second cafe 00:33:50.90\00:33:54.92 that shows you that this kind of food is can be very tasty, 00:33:54.95\00:34:00.51 very appealing to the average person. 00:34:00.54\00:34:02.71 I even had customers who come back and they said, 00:34:02.74\00:34:05.22 hello mate, I've been here three times 00:34:05.25\00:34:07.04 and there is no meat. 00:34:07.07\00:34:08.17 You guys are vegetarian which is really funny. 00:34:08.20\00:34:10.99 They didn't even notice it will be funny. 00:34:11.02\00:34:13.98 And it's funny. 00:34:14.01\00:34:15.16 So now you've not got just one but four cookbooks out 00:34:15.19\00:34:20.01 and now I want to share the story of how we met 00:34:20.04\00:34:24.02 because this was so fascinating. 00:34:24.05\00:34:25.92 I've a dear friend in New Zealand who called me 00:34:25.95\00:34:28.40 and she said, you've got to get Jeremy Dixon on 3ABN. 00:34:28.43\00:34:34.77 He is the most wonderful cook 00:34:34.80\00:34:38.13 and one she was just raving about you, 00:34:38.16\00:34:42.20 and telling me about your cafes and it was kind of like, 00:34:42.23\00:34:47.12 well, you know I don't just invite somebody over 00:34:47.15\00:34:51.03 to drive completely over from New Zealand 00:34:51.06\00:34:54.11 which is quite costly to just come do a program for us, 00:34:54.14\00:34:58.75 a cooking program. 00:34:58.78\00:35:00.37 And we want to do a series 00:35:00.40\00:35:02.06 if you're gonna come that far I was thinking. 00:35:02.09\00:35:04.66 And here I'm mulling all of this over in my mind, 00:35:04.69\00:35:07.98 when Brenda Walsh come into waltzing into my-- 00:35:08.01\00:35:11.70 no, I called you first, that's what happened. 00:35:11.73\00:35:14.05 I called you to see about it 00:35:14.08\00:35:17.16 and not, I wasn't feeling 00:35:17.19\00:35:18.76 just like this was gonna be too positive 00:35:18.79\00:35:20.95 and you said, I'm coming over to do, 00:35:20.98\00:35:24.35 you know, Brenda Walsh was here, 00:35:24.38\00:35:25.55 was eating at my restaurant 00:35:25.58\00:35:27.27 and has invited me to 3ABN to do a cooking program, 00:35:27.30\00:35:32.08 so that's how we met. 00:35:32.11\00:35:33.29 It was just like the Lord opened the door. 00:35:33.32\00:35:35.72 So when he got here 00:35:35.75\00:35:37.43 and we saw what cute dimples he had, no, I'm just kidding. 00:35:37.46\00:35:40.62 I'm giving him the hard time about that. 00:35:40.65\00:35:42.72 But when you were here, 00:35:42.75\00:35:44.12 and we saw that your personality 00:35:44.15\00:35:46.64 matched your talent 00:35:46.67\00:35:48.07 and that your heart for God was true. 00:35:48.10\00:35:51.17 We decided to ask you to do a program. 00:35:51.20\00:35:54.03 And that program is Cook 30. 00:35:54.06\00:35:56.59 And Cook 30 is a different type of program, 00:35:56.62\00:36:03.28 cooking program than 3ABN has had before 00:36:03.31\00:36:06.03 because this isn't one where you just walk in 00:36:06.06\00:36:09.45 and everything is pre-measured 00:36:09.48\00:36:11.61 and we're just sitting there telling you the recipe. 00:36:11.64\00:36:14.30 What this program is all about as you'll see the launch date, 00:36:14.33\00:36:18.67 it's launched in first quarter of 2015. 00:36:18.70\00:36:23.25 This program is one where he walks in 00:36:23.28\00:36:28.60 and there is nothing on the counter 00:36:28.63\00:36:30.69 and in 30 minutes you're putting together a full meal. 00:36:30.72\00:36:33.66 That's right. 00:36:33.69\00:36:34.82 Tell us a little bit about the program? 00:36:34.85\00:36:38.03 So it's all about how you'd normally cook in your kitchen 00:36:38.06\00:36:40.31 or how I cook at home. 00:36:40.34\00:36:42.32 And you are-- it's all about multitasking, 00:36:42.35\00:36:43.92 you can't just start one recipe and stop the second one, 00:36:43.95\00:36:46.75 you've got to for example put the brown rice on, 00:36:46.78\00:36:49.33 you got to then start the curry, 00:36:49.36\00:36:51.03 you might been chop up your salad, 00:36:51.06\00:36:53.08 you might been come back 00:36:53.11\00:36:54.31 and add some more ingredients to curry, 00:36:54.34\00:36:56.44 put something in the oven. 00:36:56.47\00:36:58.14 Finish the dessert, finish the curry 00:36:58.17\00:37:01.06 and then the meal is ready. 00:37:01.09\00:37:02.47 So it's all about multitasking 00:37:02.50\00:37:04.36 to create a delicious meal in just 30 minutes. 00:37:04.39\00:37:06.98 And mostly in these you do something 00:37:07.01\00:37:10.24 with a little sweet factors 00:37:10.27\00:37:12.19 where you've got the main meal and salad. 00:37:12.22\00:37:14.56 Yes, you know, like a main savory dish. 00:37:14.59\00:37:15.69 Okay. 00:37:15.72\00:37:16.80 Perhaps an accompaniment like quinoa or brown rice, 00:37:16.83\00:37:19.63 maybe a salad accompaniment like asparagus or butternut. 00:37:19.66\00:37:23.74 Oh, yes. 00:37:23.77\00:37:24.91 And then in salad something fresh 00:37:24.94\00:37:26.74 and normally some kind of healthy dessert 00:37:26.77\00:37:28.41 or sweet like a smoothie 00:37:28.44\00:37:29.83 or something like that. 00:37:29.86\00:37:31.82 Amen, amen. 00:37:31.85\00:37:33.28 Tell us about your peanut-butter smoothie. 00:37:33.31\00:37:36.02 That's become my favorite. That's your favorite. 00:37:36.05\00:37:37.28 Well, JD loves peanut-butter, 00:37:37.31\00:37:39.22 and it is absolutely, you know, my one weakness is ice-cream 00:37:39.25\00:37:43.48 and I try not to do it more than once a month, 00:37:43.51\00:37:45.70 but every now and then I get on a kick. 00:37:45.73\00:37:47.58 But with the peanut-butter smoothie, 00:37:47.61\00:37:49.57 I can actually forego ice-cream. 00:37:49.60\00:37:51.76 I mean this is a wonderful substitute, 00:37:51.79\00:37:53.19 it's just delicious. 00:37:53.22\00:37:54.28 Just frozen bananas, a tablespoon of peanut-butter, 00:37:54.31\00:37:57.09 some good milk, bit of honey perhaps, and a blender 00:37:57.12\00:38:01.48 and it gets a really nice 00:38:01.51\00:38:02.96 beautifully thick creamy texture. 00:38:02.99\00:38:05.23 It's delicious. 00:38:05.26\00:38:06.33 And then how do you serve it? 00:38:06.36\00:38:08.69 Always in the really nice glasses, 00:38:08.72\00:38:10.45 presentation is everything. 00:38:10.48\00:38:11.84 So you get some very nice goblets poured in, 00:38:11.87\00:38:14.54 it's just delicious. 00:38:14.57\00:38:15.64 Yeah, but you don't just pour it in by itself. 00:38:15.67\00:38:18.02 Tell us how you serve it. There is something-- 00:38:18.05\00:38:20.32 Oh, there is-- yes, yes. Those glasses. 00:38:20.35\00:38:22.56 Just make a little mixture with carob and water 00:38:22.59\00:38:24.61 into a nice kind of a chocolaty look. 00:38:24.64\00:38:26.33 And then you decorate the glasses 00:38:26.36\00:38:27.86 before you poured in, poured in 00:38:27.89\00:38:29.65 and that contrast of color just makes it look good. 00:38:29.68\00:38:31.92 Oh, and it makes it taste so good too. 00:38:31.95\00:38:34.66 So what was your experience in doing the Cook 30 programs? 00:38:34.69\00:38:41.24 Oh, it's been great, it's a lot of hard work. 00:38:41.27\00:38:44.63 No, it's been great just it's very obviously 00:38:44.66\00:38:46.39 you need to get use to television. 00:38:46.42\00:38:48.00 And being able to fit things in small time slots, 00:38:48.03\00:38:51.13 that's probably the most difficult part 00:38:51.16\00:38:52.51 is being able to fit everything in that 30 minute program. 00:38:52.54\00:38:55.74 Because you don't have things pre-chopped 00:38:55.77\00:38:57.55 and you're doing everything as-- 00:38:57.58\00:38:59.54 So you got to work really fast 00:38:59.57\00:39:01.19 and you got to choose the right recipes as well 00:39:01.22\00:39:02.95 and the right combination of recipes. 00:39:02.98\00:39:04.89 You can't have five massively time, 00:39:04.92\00:39:07.99 it's time for all recipes you want to make, 00:39:08.02\00:39:10.66 you got couple of easy ones and a hard one. 00:39:10.69\00:39:12.34 So it will balance that. 00:39:12.37\00:39:13.44 You're doing it like we do at home. 00:39:13.47\00:39:14.99 That's what I love, it gives you an idea, 00:39:15.02\00:39:18.00 I mean you know learn so much 00:39:18.03\00:39:19.60 by watching these cooking program 00:39:19.63\00:39:21.95 and let me clue you on something else. 00:39:21.98\00:39:24.34 Remember these four beautiful cookbooks that he is done. 00:39:24.37\00:39:28.57 Well, the Cook 30 program on 3ABN 00:39:28.60\00:39:33.46 is also going to have its own cookbook. 00:39:33.49\00:39:36.68 That's right. 00:39:36.71\00:39:37.82 So we're very excited about that. 00:39:37.85\00:39:40.39 So you have all of these recipes 00:39:40.42\00:39:42.14 that will be available. 00:39:42.17\00:39:43.26 And you can read the book 00:39:43.29\00:39:44.36 and follow it along with the show. 00:39:44.39\00:39:46.16 And what we'd like to do right now, 00:39:46.19\00:39:48.07 is show you just a little sample 00:39:48.10\00:39:50.48 of the Cook 30 program. 00:39:50.51\00:39:52.09 Welcome to Cook 30. 00:40:15.88\00:40:18.33 I'm Jeremy Dixon 00:40:18.36\00:40:19.42 from the Revive Cafes in Auckland, New Zealand, 00:40:19.45\00:40:21.98 and also author of the Revive Cafe cookbooks. 00:40:22.01\00:40:25.53 And today, I'm going to share with you 00:40:25.56\00:40:27.37 some delicious cafe style meals that you can cook at home. 00:40:27.40\00:40:32.28 Cook 30 food is all about plant based whole foods. 00:40:32.31\00:40:36.23 We're gonna be using lots of grains 00:40:36.26\00:40:38.03 like quinoa and brown rice. 00:40:38.06\00:40:40.65 Protein sources like beans, nuts and lentils, 00:40:40.68\00:40:44.84 fresh fruit and vegetables 00:40:44.87\00:40:46.50 and tying it all together with international flavors 00:40:46.53\00:40:49.69 and fresh herbs and spices. 00:40:49.72\00:40:52.37 And the best part about Cook 30 food 00:40:52.40\00:40:55.09 is you don't have to spend hours 00:40:55.12\00:40:57.22 slaving away in the kitchen to make it. 00:40:57.25\00:41:00.22 I'm gonna show you how to make a tasty meal for you family 00:41:00.25\00:41:03.23 in just 30 minutes and your family will love it. 00:41:03.26\00:41:08.71 On the menu today we have 00:41:08.74\00:41:10.41 a spinach, ginger, pumpkin and tofu curry 00:41:10.44\00:41:13.60 served over freshly cooked quinoa. 00:41:13.63\00:41:17.18 We have a Revive raw salad with beetroot 00:41:17.21\00:41:19.74 and mints and a corn and pepper fiesta. 00:41:19.77\00:41:24.01 And to finish it off our lovely sweet an Honest Pino Colado. 00:41:24.04\00:41:29.75 Okay, if you want to cook meals in a hurry, 00:41:29.78\00:41:31.91 you got to make sure you're well prepared. 00:41:31.94\00:41:33.52 They don't happen by accident. 00:41:33.55\00:41:35.74 You want to start with a nice clear work surface, 00:41:35.77\00:41:38.09 make sure it's all clear and clean. 00:41:38.12\00:41:39.80 Chopping board on a wet tea towel 00:41:39.83\00:41:41.93 to make sure it doesn't slip, sharp knife. 00:41:41.96\00:41:45.30 We've got two pots on the stove hot and ready to go. 00:41:45.33\00:41:48.98 The jug is boiled with hot water. 00:41:49.01\00:41:51.48 The oven is on a 350 Fahrenheit or about 180 Celsius, 00:41:51.51\00:41:55.62 and our fridge and pantry are stocked 00:41:55.65\00:41:58.13 with all the food we're going to need. 00:41:58.16\00:42:00.52 So let's get started. 00:42:00.55\00:42:02.87 First job is the quinoa. 00:42:02.90\00:42:04.86 So there is hot pan here, 00:42:04.89\00:42:06.93 and we're going to use some quinoa 00:42:06.96\00:42:08.39 and quinoa is a great nutritious grain to use. 00:42:08.42\00:42:11.69 And a very simple recipe, 00:42:11.72\00:42:13.80 one cup of quinoa to two cups of water. 00:42:13.83\00:42:18.95 And then your boiling water 00:42:18.98\00:42:21.24 and this will just cut down the cooking time. 00:42:21.27\00:42:23.15 When you're cooking fast, 00:42:23.18\00:42:24.23 you don't have time to sit around 00:42:24.26\00:42:25.62 waiting for water to boil. 00:42:25.65\00:42:27.44 The pan is nice and hot. 00:42:32.08\00:42:34.86 So one cup of quinoa to two cups of water, 00:42:34.89\00:42:37.35 same recipe as rice. 00:42:37.38\00:42:41.03 Two other rules in cooking quinoa. 00:42:41.06\00:42:42.52 Number one is lid on. 00:42:42.55\00:42:44.17 We use an absorption method 00:42:44.20\00:42:45.43 which means we want the moisture 00:42:45.46\00:42:46.68 to go inside the quinoa, 00:42:46.71\00:42:48.32 not evaporate off the top. 00:42:48.35\00:42:50.36 And also you never want to stir it. 00:42:50.39\00:42:52.63 Little steam beans will appear in the quinoa 00:42:52.66\00:42:55.26 which actually cook it. 00:42:55.29\00:42:56.43 If you start stirring it all the time, 00:42:56.46\00:42:57.85 you destroy those steam beans 00:42:57.88\00:42:59.07 and inhabit its ability to be able to cook. 00:42:59.10\00:43:01.65 So we got it on really hot. 00:43:01.68\00:43:03.45 And it's starting to bubble now. 00:43:03.48\00:43:05.43 So when it's bubbling you want to turn it down, 00:43:05.46\00:43:07.89 so it's just on a really low heat 00:43:07.92\00:43:09.89 and should be just bubbling. 00:43:09.92\00:43:11.94 And it will take around about 15 minutes 00:43:11.97\00:43:13.82 to cook so really fast grain, so it's great. 00:43:13.85\00:43:17.36 Okay, second job is the butternut pumpkin. 00:43:17.39\00:43:21.36 This is going to be a great ingredient for our curry. 00:43:21.39\00:43:24.24 So we're going to cut this in half with butter knife. 00:43:24.27\00:43:28.15 Half has a seeds in it and half doesn't. 00:43:28.18\00:43:30.62 We're going to use this. 00:43:30.65\00:43:31.97 Half speed and use the other half later. 00:43:32.00\00:43:35.18 I'm just gonna chop it out into cubes 00:43:35.21\00:43:38.59 so just cut nice long strips. 00:43:38.62\00:43:40.69 You want to cut so it's nice and thin, 00:43:40.72\00:43:43.14 so it is going to cook really quickly. 00:43:43.17\00:43:45.64 Just chopping lovely slices like that. 00:43:45.67\00:43:50.31 It's a fun program. 00:43:54.11\00:43:56.00 It's really exciting to watch in. 00:43:56.03\00:43:57.79 You'll learn so much and we just want you 00:43:57.82\00:44:00.15 to be sure that you tune in to Cook 30. 00:44:00.18\00:44:03.15 Now, the thing that I would like you to share right now, 00:44:03.18\00:44:08.95 God has really helped you overcome many challenges. 00:44:08.98\00:44:12.39 What would your advice be to someone 00:44:12.42\00:44:15.10 who was maybe thinking about starting 00:44:15.13\00:44:17.90 a plant based cafe or a health ministry. 00:44:17.93\00:44:20.84 What would you say to them? 00:44:20.87\00:44:22.40 Well, the first piece of advice would be 00:44:22.43\00:44:23.88 to follow God's calling and just do it. 00:44:23.91\00:44:26.50 Too many people including myself, 00:44:26.53\00:44:28.11 you put things off for too long 00:44:28.14\00:44:29.67 but just decide to do it and follow God's calling. 00:44:29.70\00:44:32.62 And it's number one thing. 00:44:32.65\00:44:33.86 The second thing, 00:44:33.89\00:44:35.02 probably what I wish I'd have done that I hadn't 00:44:35.05\00:44:37.04 and looking back I should have done 00:44:37.07\00:44:38.88 is get some more experience in hospitality. 00:44:38.91\00:44:42.07 The cafes and restaurants 00:44:42.10\00:44:43.30 are very, very difficult business model to run. 00:44:43.33\00:44:46.80 It's probably one of the most complex business model 00:44:46.83\00:44:48.56 you got to have, you know, correct food, 00:44:48.59\00:44:50.55 the right staff, the right location, 00:44:50.58\00:44:53.61 all these systems in place, 00:44:53.64\00:44:55.34 so get some experience in some hospitality outlets. 00:44:55.37\00:44:58.79 So what you are saying is go to work for a restaurant-- 00:44:58.82\00:45:01.23 Exactly. Exactly. 00:45:01.26\00:45:02.54 Even if it's a unhealthy one like McDonald's, 00:45:02.57\00:45:04.35 just get experience and find out 00:45:04.38\00:45:05.82 what happens in the background of hospitality 00:45:05.85\00:45:08.01 because that's where I've to spend 00:45:08.04\00:45:09.13 five years learning very painfully 00:45:09.16\00:45:11.65 where as I probably could have gone 00:45:11.68\00:45:12.81 and work somewhere and learn that 00:45:12.84\00:45:14.47 and save myself a lot of pain lot earlier. 00:45:14.50\00:45:16.33 Okay. Okay. 00:45:16.36\00:45:17.45 I think it's important 00:45:17.48\00:45:18.53 to get some business advices around us, 00:45:18.56\00:45:20.65 while you're starting a business, 00:45:20.68\00:45:22.11 so you gonna get a good accountant, 00:45:22.14\00:45:23.51 to get some people who have got skills 00:45:23.54\00:45:24.83 that you don't have to complement you. 00:45:24.86\00:45:27.15 If you just go off on your line, just cooking food, 00:45:27.18\00:45:29.92 it's never going to survive as business. 00:45:29.95\00:45:31.84 And that's why 90% of the businesses do fail 00:45:31.87\00:45:35.29 is because the people who start them are technicians, 00:45:35.32\00:45:38.83 they're people who cook, 00:45:38.86\00:45:40.02 they're not entrepreneurial who know how to marketing, 00:45:40.05\00:45:43.44 do all of the rest of the stuff. 00:45:43.47\00:45:45.54 So this is something that... 00:45:45.57\00:45:49.01 it's very, very helpful to know. 00:45:49.04\00:45:51.85 Well, once again, we want to give you the opportunity 00:45:51.88\00:45:56.18 if you want to order any of Jeremy's cookbooks 00:45:56.21\00:46:00.39 and, you know, the reason that these are the number one 00:46:00.42\00:46:04.00 selling cookbooks in New Zealand, 00:46:04.03\00:46:05.99 100,000 copies is because they are beautiful, 00:46:06.02\00:46:09.27 they are excellent, wonderful recipes, 00:46:09.30\00:46:12.27 they make great gifts so if you've got someone 00:46:12.30\00:46:15.98 even, remember it, this is very popular with people 00:46:16.01\00:46:19.40 who are not vegetarian or not vegan. 00:46:19.43\00:46:22.16 These recipes are quite-- they're appealing to people. 00:46:22.19\00:46:26.24 The mainstream, yeah. 00:46:26.27\00:46:27.47 They're mainstream type recipes, 00:46:27.50\00:46:29.28 they just happen to be healthy. 00:46:29.31\00:46:31.00 So if you'd like to get in touch with Jeremy 00:46:31.03\00:46:34.17 or write to him or to find out how you can get his books, 00:46:34.20\00:46:38.79 here's how you can get in touch. 00:46:38.82\00:46:42.92 If you'd like to contact Jeremy or order one of his cookbooks, 00:46:42.95\00:46:46.66 then you can email him at jeremy@revive.co.nz. 00:46:46.69\00:46:51.98 That's jeremy@revive.co.nz 00:46:52.01\00:46:56.30 or you can visit his website for recipes, 00:46:56.33\00:46:58.77 health tips and more at revive.co.nz. 00:46:58.80\00:47:03.20 That's revive.co.nz. 00:47:03.23\00:47:06.44 Contact him today to eat better tomorrow. 00:47:06.47\00:47:09.75 Well, just as Jeremy said he learns 00:47:13.35\00:47:15.63 as he goes in his business, I also learn as I go 00:47:15.66\00:47:18.28 and just found out that these beautiful cookbooks 00:47:18.31\00:47:20.44 are also available some through the ABC Stores, 00:47:20.47\00:47:23.55 you might check Pacific Press website or on amazon.com. 00:47:23.58\00:47:28.65 And once they make a wonderful gifts for anyone they are, 00:47:28.68\00:47:33.09 they are designed to have appeal 00:47:33.12\00:47:37.25 to people not only who are vegetarian or vegan 00:47:37.28\00:47:40.41 but to people who aren't used to eating plant based diet. 00:47:40.44\00:47:45.69 Is that correct? That's right. 00:47:45.72\00:47:47.05 And you know, the wonderful thing about these books 00:47:47.08\00:47:50.57 is that they do have that broad appeal 00:47:50.60\00:47:52.62 and they make wonderful gift, 00:47:52.65\00:47:54.31 so right, we are going to go to a second song 00:47:54.34\00:47:58.27 and then we're going to come back 00:47:58.30\00:48:00.08 for a final thought with Jeremy, 00:48:00.11\00:48:03.35 but right now Danny Shelton standing by 00:48:03.38\00:48:05.93 and he is going to sing a beautiful song 00:48:05.96\00:48:08.76 called "The First Moment of Eternity." 00:48:08.79\00:48:11.50 Well, sometimes I've wondered 00:48:32.77\00:48:38.01 Is it worth at all 00:48:38.04\00:48:42.18 When the road seems rough 00:48:42.21\00:48:45.85 And so long 00:48:45.88\00:48:51.16 Then I look towards heaven 00:48:51.19\00:48:55.92 And think of that day 00:48:55.95\00:49:00.80 When Jesus 00:49:00.83\00:49:03.24 Will call me away 00:49:03.27\00:49:10.16 The first moment 00:49:10.19\00:49:13.13 Of eternity 00:49:13.16\00:49:18.88 Will be worth 00:49:18.91\00:49:21.22 All the trials down here 00:49:21.25\00:49:28.22 When I hear 00:49:28.25\00:49:31.21 The King of all ages say 00:49:31.24\00:49:38.18 Come home, child 00:49:38.21\00:49:41.00 Come home to stay 00:49:41.03\00:49:45.83 For every rough road traveled 00:49:48.65\00:49:52.52 In this world below 00:49:52.55\00:49:57.49 My reward will be a million years 00:49:57.52\00:50:04.49 For every pain and sorrow 00:50:04.52\00:50:11.30 That if we can't meet now 00:50:11.33\00:50:15.88 I'll receive the robe 00:50:15.91\00:50:20.09 And the crown 00:50:20.12\00:50:25.20 The first moment 00:50:25.23\00:50:28.04 Of eternity 00:50:28.07\00:50:33.99 Will be worth 00:50:34.02\00:50:36.16 All the trials down here 00:50:36.19\00:50:41.86 When I hear 00:50:43.65\00:50:46.43 The King of all ages say 00:50:46.46\00:50:53.24 Come home, child 00:50:53.27\00:50:55.81 Come home to stay 00:50:55.84\00:51:00.37 When I hear 00:51:02.59\00:51:05.11 The King of all ages say 00:51:05.14\00:51:11.90 Come home, child 00:51:11.93\00:51:14.61 Come home to stay 00:51:14.64\00:51:20.81