Welcome to The Creator Revealed. 00:00:31.33\00:00:34.96 I'm Tim Standish, I'm a scientist. 00:00:35.00\00:00:38.13 And being a scientist, 00:00:38.17\00:00:39.57 I was taught not to believe in the Creator, 00:00:39.60\00:00:44.81 but when we look at the creation, 00:00:44.84\00:00:48.61 we not only come to the conclusion 00:00:48.64\00:00:50.78 that there is a Creator behind it all, 00:00:50.81\00:00:54.45 but it tells us the most fascinating things 00:00:54.48\00:00:57.52 about His nature, His personality, if you will. 00:00:57.55\00:01:02.22 Absolutely. 00:01:02.26\00:01:03.59 You know, that's what Paul wrote to the Romans 00:01:03.63\00:01:05.89 that in Romans 1:20, 00:01:05.93\00:01:07.66 he says, 00:01:07.70\00:01:09.03 "That God's invisible attributes 00:01:09.06\00:01:11.67 are seen in the things that He made." 00:01:11.70\00:01:14.97 And we're so glad you're joining us today. 00:01:15.00\00:01:17.77 This is already becoming a very popular program. 00:01:17.81\00:01:20.98 In our first segment, 00:01:21.01\00:01:22.34 you're going to get just a little bit of science. 00:01:22.38\00:01:25.18 And in the second segment, 00:01:25.21\00:01:26.58 we'll be giving you a practical application. 00:01:26.61\00:01:29.78 And I'm just very thrilled. 00:01:29.82\00:01:31.75 What are we talking about? 00:01:31.79\00:01:33.12 We're talking about relationships, 00:01:33.15\00:01:34.52 relationships between organisms and their environment, 00:01:34.56\00:01:40.26 and relationships between one kind of organism 00:01:40.30\00:01:43.97 and another kind of organism. 00:01:44.00\00:01:45.33 All right. 00:01:45.37\00:01:46.70 I'm ready to learn. 00:01:46.74\00:01:48.07 All right. 00:01:48.10\00:01:50.11 I love this topic 00:01:50.14\00:01:52.41 because it tells us 00:01:52.44\00:01:57.25 so many beautiful things 00:01:57.28\00:01:59.75 about not only ourselves but also God who created us. 00:01:59.78\00:02:05.95 This photograph, 00:02:05.99\00:02:07.32 I took one day on the campus of Loma Linda University. 00:02:07.36\00:02:12.46 These poppies are such beautiful flowers, 00:02:12.49\00:02:15.63 and it's fascinating 00:02:15.66\00:02:17.63 to watch the bees buzzing around them. 00:02:17.67\00:02:20.90 The thing that struck me, when I was looking at these, 00:02:20.94\00:02:25.57 was these two organisms are working together. 00:02:25.61\00:02:31.15 They are not in some kind of struggle to the death 00:02:31.18\00:02:34.68 with one another. 00:02:34.72\00:02:36.05 Right. 00:02:36.08\00:02:37.42 Everything is cooperative there. 00:02:37.45\00:02:42.42 Yeah. 00:02:42.46\00:02:43.79 And it got me thinking about what the... 00:02:43.83\00:02:47.03 Not only cooperative but dependent really. 00:02:47.06\00:02:49.30 Interdependent, they are interdependent. 00:02:49.33\00:02:51.23 Yes, the bee gets obviously sugar, 00:02:51.27\00:02:54.64 ultimately, from the flower. 00:02:54.67\00:02:57.27 And the flower is pollinated by the bees. 00:02:57.31\00:03:01.31 So there's a nice trade off here, 00:03:01.34\00:03:03.95 both of them are benefiting in a beautiful way. 00:03:03.98\00:03:07.48 So as a biologist, I, you know, started thinking about things 00:03:07.52\00:03:12.45 because one of the things 00:03:12.49\00:03:14.92 that I was taught over the course of my education 00:03:14.96\00:03:18.39 was that a central principle of life is competition, 00:03:18.43\00:03:24.70 competition not cooperation. 00:03:24.73\00:03:27.30 So organisms 00:03:27.34\00:03:28.67 that are in this kind of struggle to the death... 00:03:28.70\00:03:31.51 A survival of the fittest. 00:03:31.54\00:03:32.87 That's right, the survival of the fittest. 00:03:32.91\00:03:34.98 But in reality, I started to think about... 00:03:35.01\00:03:38.41 In reality, could life even exist 00:03:38.45\00:03:43.49 if that was really the principle? 00:03:43.52\00:03:46.15 When we look at living things, we see cooperation, 00:03:46.19\00:03:49.92 interdependence all over the place. 00:03:49.96\00:03:54.10 When it comes to bees, 00:03:54.13\00:03:57.07 let's say, 00:03:57.10\00:04:02.50 how do you get a bee? Where does a bee come from? 00:04:02.54\00:04:05.81 How does a bee exist? 00:04:05.84\00:04:08.54 There's a relationship between bees 00:04:08.58\00:04:10.81 and their environment obviously. 00:04:10.85\00:04:12.18 Without air, the bee wouldn't be able to fly. 00:04:12.21\00:04:15.52 Without atoms to be made out of, 00:04:15.55\00:04:17.55 the bee couldn't exist. 00:04:17.59\00:04:20.76 Really, in my thinking, it sort of walked me 00:04:20.79\00:04:23.66 all the way back to the universe. 00:04:23.69\00:04:26.59 Without a universe, the bee couldn't exist. 00:04:26.63\00:04:30.97 But the universe has to be a just right universe. 00:04:31.00\00:04:34.30 There are all kinds of factors 00:04:34.34\00:04:38.11 that have to be just precisely right 00:04:38.14\00:04:41.38 if you want to get a bee, or a puppy, 00:04:41.41\00:04:43.68 or a human or a puppy for that matter. 00:04:43.71\00:04:46.55 You mean, just to sustain life, 00:04:46.58\00:04:48.22 when you're talking about all these factors, 00:04:48.25\00:04:50.25 to sustain life, we've got Mars that they're saying, 00:04:50.29\00:04:53.89 you know, perhaps they're learning a little more, 00:04:53.92\00:04:56.32 but we are a planet on which everything 00:04:56.36\00:05:00.30 comes together perfectly to sustain life. 00:05:00.33\00:05:02.36 Oh, yes. 00:05:02.40\00:05:03.73 This planet is a very, very special planet, 00:05:03.77\00:05:05.97 that's becoming quite obvious from the study of these planets 00:05:06.00\00:05:11.37 that they're finding out there in space. 00:05:11.41\00:05:13.44 Ours is special, it's a very special planet, 00:05:13.48\00:05:16.01 there's no doubt about that. 00:05:16.04\00:05:17.38 But I'm going bigger than the planet. 00:05:17.41\00:05:18.95 Okay. I'm going the whole universe. 00:05:18.98\00:05:21.62 The whole universe operates by laws. 00:05:21.65\00:05:24.42 And we're not going to talk about all of them, don't panic. 00:05:24.45\00:05:27.19 But let's talk about one of them, gravity, 00:05:27.22\00:05:29.19 because gravity is something that we all understand. 00:05:29.22\00:05:32.86 It turns out that gravity is just right 00:05:32.89\00:05:37.30 so that our sun can exist. 00:05:37.33\00:05:39.73 Our sun is actually a great big hydrogen bulb 00:05:39.77\00:05:43.30 up in the sky. 00:05:43.34\00:05:45.27 It's made out of primarily hydrogen, 00:05:45.31\00:05:47.91 and gravity pulls that hydrogen together 00:05:47.94\00:05:51.21 so that in the center of the sun, 00:05:51.25\00:05:53.18 the pressure is so high 00:05:53.21\00:05:56.12 that the hydrogens are fusing together, 00:05:56.15\00:05:59.45 and when they do that, 00:05:59.49\00:06:00.82 they release enormous amounts of energy. 00:06:00.86\00:06:03.79 And that's what's going on up there. 00:06:03.83\00:06:07.26 It's just right. 00:06:07.30\00:06:09.20 If gravity was a bit stronger, 00:06:09.23\00:06:12.13 you would think, "Well, that might be good, 00:06:12.17\00:06:14.14 because we could somehow rather have a hotter sun 00:06:14.17\00:06:18.21 or something, it'd be more nuclear fusion going on there." 00:06:18.24\00:06:21.94 But the problem is that if we sped up that fusion, 00:06:21.98\00:06:26.72 so much energy would be coming off the sun... 00:06:26.75\00:06:29.75 We'll burn up. That we would burn up. 00:06:29.78\00:06:32.42 Not only that, the orbit of the earth would change, 00:06:32.45\00:06:36.06 the earth would have to be adjusted 00:06:36.09\00:06:38.79 in many, many different ways. 00:06:38.83\00:06:40.16 But there probably isn't a way of adjusting things 00:06:40.20\00:06:42.96 so that life could possibly exist. 00:06:43.00\00:06:45.03 If it was strong, the earth would be orbiting closer, 00:06:45.07\00:06:47.10 we'd actually have to rearrange things 00:06:47.14\00:06:48.60 and put the earth a long way away. 00:06:48.64\00:06:50.47 But it's not just the amount of radiation light coming off. 00:06:50.51\00:06:55.84 It's also the kind of light. 00:06:55.88\00:06:59.21 There are certain kinds of light like X-rays. 00:06:59.25\00:07:01.62 We don't see it, 00:07:01.65\00:07:02.98 but we know that those can do a lot of damage to us. 00:07:03.02\00:07:06.12 So that would be a problem as well. 00:07:06.15\00:07:08.02 Getting everything to work with stronger gravity 00:07:08.06\00:07:10.79 might well be and probably is impossible 00:07:10.83\00:07:13.66 for life to exist. 00:07:13.70\00:07:15.06 So what would happen 00:07:15.10\00:07:16.43 if we made it a little bit weaker? 00:07:16.46\00:07:18.93 What if we made it 00:07:18.97\00:07:22.74 so that the fusion is not going on 00:07:22.77\00:07:26.07 so rapidly inside the sun? 00:07:26.11\00:07:28.11 Well, then the sun would be too cold, 00:07:28.14\00:07:30.55 and we wouldn't have enough light energy hitting the earth, 00:07:30.58\00:07:33.45 the earth would freeze. 00:07:33.48\00:07:35.28 Ice Age. Yeah. 00:07:35.32\00:07:37.19 We'd be in a permanent Ice Age. 00:07:37.22\00:07:39.35 And again, the bee couldn't exist, 00:07:39.39\00:07:41.56 and neither could the flower, neither could the human being, 00:07:41.59\00:07:43.86 neither could the elephant, 00:07:43.89\00:07:45.26 no life could exist if gravity wasn't just right. 00:07:45.29\00:07:48.63 That's amazing. 00:07:48.66\00:07:50.00 So bear in mind, yeah, 00:07:50.03\00:07:51.63 it takes a universe to make a bee. 00:07:51.67\00:07:55.10 This is just one of many things 00:07:55.14\00:07:58.14 that need to be just exactly right. 00:07:58.17\00:08:00.84 So that's a relationship thing. 00:08:00.88\00:08:03.04 For the relationship to exist between life 00:08:03.08\00:08:06.28 and the rest of the physical universe, 00:08:06.31\00:08:09.38 things have to be just right. 00:08:09.42\00:08:11.55 We've got to get them exactly perfect. 00:08:11.59\00:08:14.72 Now, let's get back to this business 00:08:14.76\00:08:16.79 of how organisms relate to one another. 00:08:16.83\00:08:20.56 Charles Darwin wrote about that, 00:08:20.60\00:08:22.56 and here is what he thought. 00:08:22.60\00:08:23.93 This is in the Origin of Species, 00:08:23.97\00:08:26.07 his most famous book, he wrote, 00:08:26.10\00:08:28.30 "It is the most closely allied forms, 00:08:28.34\00:08:31.24 varieties of the same species and species of the same genus 00:08:31.27\00:08:35.98 or related genera, 00:08:36.01\00:08:37.35 which, from having nearly the same structure, 00:08:37.38\00:08:39.98 constitution and habits, 00:08:40.02\00:08:41.72 generally come into the severest competition 00:08:41.75\00:08:45.75 with each other. 00:08:45.79\00:08:47.79 Consequently, each new variety or species, 00:08:47.82\00:08:50.63 during the progress of its formation, 00:08:50.66\00:08:52.79 will generally press hardest on its nearest kindred 00:08:52.83\00:08:56.93 and tend to exterminate them." 00:08:56.97\00:08:59.13 That's a solemn thought, isn't it? 00:09:02.60\00:09:03.94 You can see, by the way. 00:09:03.97\00:09:05.51 You can see why it is that 00:09:05.54\00:09:06.88 people regularly take this kind of thinking, 00:09:06.91\00:09:09.84 and Charles Darwin 00:09:09.88\00:09:11.21 also spells it out quite clearly 00:09:11.25\00:09:13.31 and apply it to human beings 00:09:13.35\00:09:15.15 and say, "Well, there are other human beings 00:09:15.18\00:09:16.79 who need to be exterminated, 00:09:16.82\00:09:19.42 because we're in competition with them." 00:09:19.45\00:09:21.89 And that's not a hypothetical situation, 00:09:21.92\00:09:25.66 that is something that has been acted on 00:09:25.69\00:09:28.16 over the course of history. 00:09:28.20\00:09:31.17 But think about it. 00:09:31.20\00:09:32.83 The most closely related are the ones 00:09:32.87\00:09:35.27 that are in the severest competition 00:09:35.30\00:09:36.77 according to this way of thinking. 00:09:36.81\00:09:38.27 There is no competition... 00:09:38.31\00:09:40.04 Sorry, no cooperation. 00:09:40.08\00:09:43.51 That's a coincidental thing that, you know, whatever, 00:09:43.55\00:09:48.85 but the rule is competition, the rule is struggle, 00:09:48.88\00:09:52.72 the rule is survival of the fittest 00:09:52.75\00:09:55.32 in that particular way of thinking. 00:09:55.36\00:09:56.69 And you can see that in some ways 00:09:56.73\00:09:58.06 like in a lion and a pride 00:09:58.09\00:10:01.50 where the dominant male will kill his cubs 00:10:01.53\00:10:06.84 or something like this. 00:10:06.87\00:10:08.20 So there's sometimes that if you look at that 00:10:08.24\00:10:11.74 in that isolated incident, that may be true, 00:10:11.77\00:10:14.78 but not overall. 00:10:14.81\00:10:16.48 Well, here's the interesting thing 00:10:16.51\00:10:17.85 about something like that. 00:10:17.88\00:10:19.68 Don't you viscerally respond to a situation like that? 00:10:19.71\00:10:23.49 Oh, yes. Absolutely. 00:10:23.52\00:10:24.85 Isn't it awful? 00:10:24.89\00:10:26.29 Isn't a terrible thing? 00:10:26.32\00:10:27.66 Haven't we all seen nature programs 00:10:27.69\00:10:31.06 where lions are not just killing each other, 00:10:31.09\00:10:33.19 they're killing all these other gazelles. 00:10:33.23\00:10:35.76 And the gazelles are beautiful creatures. 00:10:35.80\00:10:37.80 Why it that we know 00:10:37.83\00:10:40.24 that there is something wrong about that? 00:10:40.27\00:10:44.84 The secret is actually... 00:10:44.87\00:10:46.71 It's not a secret, it's stated quite plainly in the Bible. 00:10:46.74\00:10:50.81 We know that that is wrong. 00:10:50.85\00:10:52.28 We know that's wrong, because that wasn't God's plan. 00:10:52.31\00:10:54.78 Yes. 00:10:54.82\00:10:56.15 God did not create lions 00:10:56.18\00:10:58.82 to tear gazelles to pieces and eat them. 00:10:58.85\00:11:02.02 This is the fall, this is the result of sin. 00:11:02.06\00:11:06.59 And the good news is, in the new earth, 00:11:06.63\00:11:09.53 the lion and the gazelle will lie down together. 00:11:09.56\00:11:11.90 Exactly. 00:11:11.93\00:11:13.27 So let's look 00:11:13.30\00:11:14.64 at another example of cooperation 00:11:14.67\00:11:17.54 that's evident there in nature. 00:11:17.57\00:11:19.71 Of fungi, 00:11:19.74\00:11:21.08 we usually don't think of fungus as doing anything 00:11:21.11\00:11:24.01 other than breaking down dead stuff. 00:11:24.05\00:11:26.98 But in fact, 00:11:27.02\00:11:28.35 they play a very important role in nature. 00:11:28.38\00:11:31.79 They also taste good if you eat mushrooms. 00:11:31.82\00:11:34.56 But when you see a mushroom, 00:11:34.59\00:11:36.83 what you're seeing is really the tip of the iceberg. 00:11:36.86\00:11:39.19 So let's go way back 00:11:39.23\00:11:40.80 to the very beginning with mushrooms. 00:11:40.83\00:11:43.13 And we need to start looking at the tips of roots. 00:11:43.16\00:11:47.94 These could be tree roots or any other plant root. 00:11:47.97\00:11:51.07 What you commonly find there, way out of the root tips, 00:11:51.11\00:11:55.41 is that there are things called mycorrhiza 00:11:55.44\00:12:01.12 that are growing into the root tips. 00:12:01.15\00:12:04.52 Those are fungi. 00:12:04.55\00:12:07.69 When you look at a mushroom, that's the tip of the iceberg. 00:12:07.72\00:12:12.06 The rest of the organism is this hair-like structure 00:12:12.09\00:12:19.03 that's growing down there in the soil 00:12:19.07\00:12:21.70 into the roots of plants. 00:12:21.74\00:12:24.77 And people thought, "Oh, those must be parasites 00:12:24.81\00:12:29.54 stealing stuff from these poor plants." 00:12:29.58\00:12:31.95 In fact, the opposite is true. 00:12:31.98\00:12:33.85 When we start looking at 00:12:33.88\00:12:37.62 what the plant gets from these fungi, 00:12:37.65\00:12:41.62 it's quite amazing. 00:12:41.66\00:12:42.99 First of all, they get water, 00:12:43.02\00:12:44.63 and obviously water is very important for plants. 00:12:44.66\00:12:47.26 It increases the size of their root system, 00:12:47.30\00:12:50.80 the surface area, 00:12:50.83\00:12:52.17 so they can absorb water, pass it on to the plant. 00:12:52.20\00:12:54.60 In addition to that, 00:12:54.64\00:12:55.97 the fungi help to absorb minerals 00:12:56.00\00:12:59.37 that the plants need to grow, 00:12:59.41\00:13:01.51 and they give protection to the plant. 00:13:01.54\00:13:04.28 They stop other things 00:13:04.31\00:13:05.71 that might come in and want to eat the plant or. 00:13:05.75\00:13:09.12 And finally, and this is one of the most amazing things, 00:13:09.15\00:13:12.69 they actually have a communication system 00:13:12.72\00:13:16.16 that they use from one plant to another 00:13:16.19\00:13:18.19 through these mycorrhiza. 00:13:18.23\00:13:19.96 I see fungus all the time at the root 00:13:20.00\00:13:23.10 or at the base of our oak trees. 00:13:23.13\00:13:25.93 Didn't realize they were doing the tree some good. 00:13:25.97\00:13:28.47 Quite possibly they are. 00:13:28.50\00:13:29.84 It depends, obviously, if the tree is dying, 00:13:29.87\00:13:32.51 the fungi will help to break it down 00:13:32.54\00:13:34.44 and recycle it. 00:13:34.48\00:13:36.21 But when everything's alive and thriving, it's great. 00:13:36.24\00:13:40.08 So what does the fungus get? 00:13:40.12\00:13:41.45 It gets sugar from the plant 00:13:41.48\00:13:43.99 and that's mostly it. 00:13:44.02\00:13:47.56 But they are interdependent somewhat. 00:13:47.59\00:13:49.09 So they are interdependent. 00:13:49.12\00:13:50.76 This is an exchange that they're making. 00:13:50.79\00:13:54.30 This brings to mind this text in Proverbs. 00:13:54.33\00:13:58.93 "There are three things that are too amazing for me, 00:13:58.97\00:14:02.00 four that I do not understand. 00:14:02.04\00:14:03.54 The way of an eagle in the sky, the way of a snake on a rock, 00:14:03.57\00:14:07.54 the way of a ship on the high seas, 00:14:07.58\00:14:09.71 and the way of a man with a young woman." 00:14:09.74\00:14:12.58 So all relationships. 00:14:12.61\00:14:13.95 All relationships, the bird and the air, 00:14:13.98\00:14:17.75 the man and the woman, cooperating, working together. 00:14:17.79\00:14:22.99 So what does this ultimately tell us 00:14:23.02\00:14:24.93 about the Creator? 00:14:24.96\00:14:26.90 The Creator loves these beautiful relationships, 00:14:26.93\00:14:30.13 relationships between bees and flowers, 00:14:30.17\00:14:32.97 those sorts of things. 00:14:33.00\00:14:34.44 He gets joy 00:14:34.47\00:14:35.80 from these cooperative relationships 00:14:35.84\00:14:39.04 that we see in ecology, 00:14:39.07\00:14:40.94 and His desire for cooperation with humans 00:14:40.98\00:14:44.18 and the rest of creation is evident 00:14:44.21\00:14:47.15 in the interdependence we see among all things, 00:14:47.18\00:14:51.09 the living part of the universe 00:14:51.12\00:14:54.26 and the inanimate universe. 00:14:54.29\00:14:58.36 So ultimately, the created things 00:14:58.39\00:15:00.96 reveal the Creator's desire for harmonious relationships. 00:15:01.00\00:15:05.93 And that is exactly what we want to talk about 00:15:05.97\00:15:09.64 in the second segment. 00:15:09.67\00:15:11.14 So we ask you to stay tuned with us. 00:15:11.17\00:15:13.71 We'll be back in 60 seconds. 00:15:13.74\00:15:15.48