Welcome to The Creator Revealed. 00:00:30.96\00:00:33.50 I'm Tim Standish. I'm a scientist. 00:00:33.53\00:00:36.06 And I work for the Geoscience Research Institute 00:00:36.10\00:00:40.24 in Loma Linda, California. 00:00:40.27\00:00:43.14 This program and this entire series 00:00:43.17\00:00:46.34 is about the creation 00:00:46.37\00:00:48.78 and what it can tell us about the Creator. 00:00:48.81\00:00:53.92 Yeah, I'm Shelley Quinn and we just want to thank you 00:00:53.95\00:00:56.52 for joining us today. 00:00:56.55\00:00:58.12 This program is in two segments. 00:00:58.15\00:01:00.02 The first half of the program 00:01:00.06\00:01:01.96 you will get some scientific information, 00:01:01.99\00:01:05.26 just enough to kind of whet your appetite. 00:01:05.29\00:01:08.60 In the second part, we will be talking about 00:01:08.63\00:01:11.60 a practical and biblical application. 00:01:11.63\00:01:14.44 What is the life lesson we get from this? 00:01:14.47\00:01:17.64 Paul said in Romans 1:20, 00:01:17.67\00:01:20.11 "That God's invisible attributes 00:01:20.14\00:01:23.51 were seen in everything that He created. 00:01:23.55\00:01:27.62 He imprinted or encoded 00:01:27.65\00:01:30.55 His artistic ability in His love, 00:01:30.59\00:01:36.22 if you will, on His creation." 00:01:36.26\00:01:38.16 And today, we're going to talk about 00:01:38.19\00:01:40.63 a well-noted biologist who's probably more famous 00:01:40.66\00:01:45.00 for being an atheist and how he mocks the design, 00:01:45.03\00:01:48.94 God's design of the eye. 00:01:48.97\00:01:50.67 Yes, you know what I like about Romans 1:20 00:01:50.71\00:01:53.54 is that it points us 00:01:53.58\00:01:55.31 in a very clear way to the creation. 00:01:55.34\00:01:57.98 God says, "Go and look, 00:01:58.01\00:02:01.65 taste and see that the Lord is good." 00:02:01.68\00:02:04.02 Amen. 00:02:04.05\00:02:05.45 And there's no hesitation about it. 00:02:05.49\00:02:08.09 Unfortunately, there are some people who think 00:02:08.12\00:02:10.23 that you cannot see the hand of the Creator 00:02:10.26\00:02:13.03 in the creation. 00:02:13.06\00:02:14.86 And some of them actually are 00:02:14.90\00:02:16.87 a certain kind of Christian. 00:02:16.90\00:02:19.50 I hope we all wind up in heaven. 00:02:19.53\00:02:21.60 I'll say that, you know, all of our eyes 00:02:21.64\00:02:26.98 obviously will be opened at that particular point. 00:02:27.01\00:02:29.24 But while we're here, the Bible encourages us 00:02:29.28\00:02:33.42 to look at the creation to appreciate what is there. 00:02:33.45\00:02:38.09 And particularly when it comes to human beings, 00:02:38.12\00:02:43.59 the Bible tells us beautiful things to expect 00:02:43.63\00:02:47.70 when we look at how a human being is made. 00:02:47.73\00:02:49.93 I love this text. 00:02:49.96\00:02:51.30 This is Psalm 139:13, 14, 00:02:51.33\00:02:55.57 "For you created my inmost being, 00:02:55.60\00:02:59.47 you knit me together in my mother's womb." 00:02:59.51\00:03:01.94 Isn't that fantastic imagery there? 00:03:01.98\00:03:04.08 Yes. I really like it. 00:03:04.11\00:03:06.48 That's actually why I use the NIV version, it has that... 00:03:06.51\00:03:10.29 It summarizes that imagery so nicely there for this text. 00:03:10.32\00:03:16.12 And then it goes on, 00:03:16.16\00:03:17.53 "I praise you 00:03:17.56\00:03:18.89 because I am fearfully and wonderfully made, 00:03:18.93\00:03:22.30 your works are wonderful, I know that full well. 00:03:22.33\00:03:26.30 Amen. 00:03:26.33\00:03:27.67 That's the biblical view of a human being 00:03:27.70\00:03:31.97 created by God, created in the image of God. 00:03:32.01\00:03:38.15 We expect as Bible-believing Christians 00:03:38.18\00:03:42.22 to see something wonderful. 00:03:42.25\00:03:44.55 But, of course, we all know we can't pretend 00:03:44.59\00:03:47.29 that there is not another view of what a human being is. 00:03:47.32\00:03:52.33 So let's look at one way 00:03:52.36\00:03:56.36 in which that has been expressed. 00:03:56.40\00:03:57.73 This is Charles Darwin writing. 00:03:57.77\00:04:00.10 Now you'll remember that Charles Darwin 00:04:00.14\00:04:02.20 was a materialist. 00:04:02.24\00:04:04.31 He believed really that the only thing 00:04:04.34\00:04:07.58 was the material world. 00:04:07.61\00:04:10.28 And here's what he says, 00:04:10.31\00:04:11.65 "Man in his arrogance thinks himself a great work 00:04:11.68\00:04:15.05 worthy the interposition of a deity." 00:04:15.08\00:04:18.05 So human beings think that we're fantastic and therefore, 00:04:18.09\00:04:21.99 you know, God somehow or other made us, 00:04:22.02\00:04:24.53 he's turning things completely around. 00:04:24.56\00:04:26.93 "More humble and I believe truer 00:04:26.96\00:04:30.03 to consider him created from animals." 00:04:30.07\00:04:32.37 But that was in 1838. That's right. 00:04:32.40\00:04:35.17 This is long before 00:04:35.20\00:04:36.81 the publication of his famous book 00:04:36.84\00:04:39.47 the Origin of Species. 00:04:39.51\00:04:41.54 So I've always heard that 00:04:41.58\00:04:42.91 it was because of his research and the origin of species 00:04:42.94\00:04:47.52 that he turned to an "evolutionist" 00:04:47.55\00:04:50.39 and denied God, but that clearly... 00:04:50.42\00:04:52.19 That's really a commonly held myth. 00:04:52.22\00:04:56.59 Darwin was clearly a dedicated materialist 00:04:56.62\00:05:01.66 before he ever went on the voyage 00:05:01.70\00:05:04.33 that he went on around the world 00:05:04.37\00:05:05.73 actually looking at things. 00:05:05.77\00:05:07.10 And he was searching 00:05:07.14\00:05:08.47 for a naturalistic explanation for things. 00:05:08.50\00:05:13.11 That's what his particular theory 00:05:13.14\00:05:15.74 of evolution really is all about. 00:05:15.78\00:05:18.65 Trying to come up with an alternative explanation 00:05:18.68\00:05:22.55 to what is pretty much obviously true to most people. 00:05:22.58\00:05:27.19 And that is the human beings 00:05:27.22\00:05:29.56 and the rest of everything we observed was created 00:05:29.59\00:05:34.56 in some way for a purpose interestingly enough. 00:05:34.60\00:05:38.37 Yes. 00:05:38.40\00:05:39.73 So, yes, you already mentioned Richard Dawkins 00:05:39.77\00:05:44.11 and Richard Dawkins is an atheist. 00:05:44.14\00:05:46.21 You could think of him as being an atheist evangelist. 00:05:46.24\00:05:48.74 Say, well, you're a Christian evangelist, Shelley, 00:05:48.78\00:05:51.71 he's an atheist evangelist, and he's very articulate. 00:05:51.75\00:05:55.18 I appreciate his writings actually 00:05:55.22\00:05:56.75 because he doesn't try to pretend, 00:05:56.79\00:05:58.65 he tells you precisely what he thinks. 00:05:58.69\00:06:00.52 So he's talking about the human body. 00:06:00.56\00:06:02.82 Now remember, this Darwinian view of things 00:06:02.86\00:06:07.03 inclines us to see things in a negative sort of way. 00:06:07.06\00:06:11.13 No, we're kind of cobbled together, 00:06:11.17\00:06:13.67 we are not a product of any intelligent thought 00:06:13.70\00:06:17.97 or any planning. 00:06:18.01\00:06:19.51 No, infinitely wise God made us. 00:06:19.54\00:06:23.55 So we don't expect to see infinitely wise things 00:06:23.58\00:06:27.18 in the creation. 00:06:27.22\00:06:28.68 This is what he says. 00:06:28.72\00:06:30.59 And he's talking about the human eye. 00:06:30.62\00:06:32.45 So if you're watching this on television, 00:06:32.49\00:06:34.86 he's talking about the instruments 00:06:34.89\00:06:36.42 that you are using to see us with amazing clarity. 00:06:36.46\00:06:41.93 Who isn't amazed by the human eye? 00:06:41.96\00:06:43.67 Well, it turns out, Richard Dawkins isn't? 00:06:43.70\00:06:46.37 He says, "Suppose I tell you that the eye's photocells," 00:06:46.40\00:06:49.74 so these are the cells at the back of the eye 00:06:49.77\00:06:52.11 that are detecting light. 00:06:52.14\00:06:53.64 Okay. 00:06:53.68\00:06:55.01 "The eye's photocells are pointing backwards, 00:06:55.04\00:06:57.78 away from the scene being looked at. 00:06:57.81\00:07:00.48 The wires," that would be the nerves, 00:07:00.52\00:07:03.95 "connecting the photocells to the brain 00:07:03.99\00:07:06.69 run over all the surface of the retina, 00:07:06.72\00:07:09.46 so the light rays have to pass through 00:07:09.49\00:07:12.13 a carpet of massed wires before they hit the photocells. 00:07:12.16\00:07:17.00 That doesn't make sense and it gets even worse." 00:07:17.03\00:07:22.00 So let's take a look at what he's talking about here. 00:07:22.04\00:07:23.77 Here's the human eye. 00:07:23.81\00:07:25.34 Most of us will be familiar with the basic architecture. 00:07:25.37\00:07:28.58 At the back of the eye there are light sensitive cells 00:07:28.61\00:07:32.41 and at the front you can see there is a lens. 00:07:32.45\00:07:35.58 So if you're looking at my smiling face, 00:07:35.62\00:07:39.15 what's happening is that 00:07:39.19\00:07:40.52 lens is focusing an image of me. 00:07:40.56\00:07:46.36 Well, both of us, on the back of your eye, 00:07:46.39\00:07:49.03 and those light sensitive cells are detecting that image. 00:07:49.06\00:07:52.73 So as the light falls on it, they change, 00:07:52.77\00:07:55.70 and they then send a signal through the nerves. 00:07:55.74\00:08:01.51 Back to our brains 00:08:01.54\00:08:02.88 and that's why we see things the way we do. 00:08:02.91\00:08:06.98 So here is what Dawkins is concerned about, 00:08:07.02\00:08:10.35 the nerves that pick up that signal, 00:08:10.39\00:08:12.32 they run over the front of the light sensitive cells, 00:08:12.35\00:08:16.42 they don't go behind. 00:08:16.46\00:08:18.56 And he thinks that's a terrible design. 00:08:18.59\00:08:20.86 So let's zoom in here 00:08:20.90\00:08:23.00 on just a little part of that retina 00:08:23.03\00:08:25.97 and take a look at what his issue is with it. 00:08:26.00\00:08:28.87 All right? 00:08:28.90\00:08:31.21 And so here we have our light detecting cells. 00:08:31.24\00:08:36.24 All right. 00:08:36.28\00:08:37.61 There they are 00:08:37.65\00:08:38.98 and those light detecting cells, 00:08:39.01\00:08:44.35 they use a lot of energy. 00:08:44.39\00:08:47.02 That means they need a lot of oxygen... 00:08:47.06\00:08:48.82 Lots of blood. 00:08:48.86\00:08:50.19 They need sugar then that's all bought by the blood, right. 00:08:50.23\00:08:52.26 So they need a blood supply to supply them. 00:08:52.29\00:08:55.60 That's why if you injure your eye, 00:08:55.63\00:08:56.97 you've probably noticed 00:08:57.00\00:08:58.33 there's a lot of blood involved. 00:08:58.37\00:08:59.70 Yes. 00:08:59.73\00:09:01.10 And if you ever tried looking through blood, 00:09:01.14\00:09:04.11 you've probably noticed that, 00:09:04.14\00:09:05.47 that's not really a good strategy. 00:09:05.51\00:09:07.54 It's quite opaque. 00:09:07.58\00:09:09.81 So if you put the blood 00:09:09.84\00:09:11.28 in front of the light sensitive cells, 00:09:11.31\00:09:14.75 you couldn't see anything. 00:09:14.78\00:09:16.15 The blood has to go behind. 00:09:16.18\00:09:19.12 So this is a design necessity that we're looking at here, 00:09:19.15\00:09:22.32 the blood is behind. 00:09:22.36\00:09:24.23 If you have the blood there, 00:09:24.26\00:09:25.79 you can't in the same place have the nerves, right? 00:09:25.83\00:09:29.20 You can only have one thing in one place at a time. 00:09:29.23\00:09:31.93 So therefore, the nerves have to go 00:09:31.97\00:09:35.40 in front of the light detecting cells. 00:09:35.44\00:09:39.51 So when light comes in... 00:09:39.54\00:09:41.64 This is according to Dawkins, 00:09:41.68\00:09:43.18 and this was a commonly held view. 00:09:43.21\00:09:46.11 When the light comes in, it passes through those nerves, 00:09:46.15\00:09:50.45 and it gets dissipated a bit. 00:09:50.49\00:09:51.82 So that would reduce the clarity of what we see. 00:09:51.85\00:09:57.03 And Dawkins thinks this is a bad design. 00:09:57.06\00:09:59.69 But we can see 00:09:59.73\00:10:01.06 it's actually necessary that things be this way 00:10:01.10\00:10:05.23 or else our eyes wouldn't work. 00:10:05.27\00:10:07.00 I should tell you, there are other designs 00:10:07.04\00:10:09.77 on how this works. 00:10:09.80\00:10:11.14 They suit the purposes 00:10:11.17\00:10:12.97 of those animals that have that design. 00:10:13.01\00:10:16.11 But this... So for an eagle or someone... 00:10:16.14\00:10:18.51 Well, actually, an eagle would have this kind of design. 00:10:18.55\00:10:20.55 Okay. 00:10:20.58\00:10:21.92 I'm talking about things like octopuses. 00:10:21.95\00:10:23.62 Oh, okay. Okay. 00:10:23.65\00:10:24.99 Their eyes, 00:10:25.02\00:10:26.35 the same general camera type eye as ours, 00:10:26.39\00:10:29.46 but their retina is arranged differently. 00:10:29.49\00:10:32.19 And it suits the purposes of an octopus... 00:10:32.23\00:10:35.13 Yes. 00:10:35.16\00:10:36.50 But not the purposes of a human being. 00:10:36.53\00:10:39.70 Okay. 00:10:39.73\00:10:41.07 So this is what Dawkins is complaining about. 00:10:41.10\00:10:44.54 He says, this is bad design, 00:10:44.57\00:10:46.24 even though everybody would admit, 00:10:46.27\00:10:48.91 "Hey, you know, our eyes work remarkably well." 00:10:48.94\00:10:52.45 Yes. Okay. 00:10:52.48\00:10:53.92 So then he goes on and he says, 00:10:53.95\00:10:56.32 "One consequence of the photocells 00:10:56.35\00:10:58.42 pointing backwards is that the wires," 00:10:58.45\00:11:00.86 remember that's the nerves there, 00:11:00.89\00:11:03.06 "that carry their data 00:11:03.09\00:11:04.89 somehow have to pass through the retina 00:11:04.93\00:11:07.70 and back to the brain. 00:11:07.73\00:11:09.23 What they do, in the vertebrate eye, 00:11:09.26\00:11:10.93 is all converge on a particular hole 00:11:10.97\00:11:13.60 in the retina, where they dive through it. 00:11:13.64\00:11:16.20 The hole filled with nerves is called the blind spot." 00:11:16.24\00:11:19.71 And this is the most shocking statement. 00:11:19.74\00:11:21.38 He says, "It's not just bad design, 00:11:21.41\00:11:24.05 it's the design of a complete idiot." 00:11:24.08\00:11:27.85 But it's interesting being an atheist 00:11:27.88\00:11:30.09 that he is still calling it a design. 00:11:30.12\00:11:32.19 Isn't that interesting? 00:11:32.22\00:11:33.56 Yes, yes. 00:11:33.59\00:11:35.59 This is a fascinating thing 00:11:35.62\00:11:36.96 because frequently people will argue, 00:11:36.99\00:11:38.93 "Oh, something is badly designed, 00:11:38.96\00:11:40.93 therefore, it's not designed." 00:11:40.96\00:11:42.30 No, we experience bad design all the time 00:11:42.33\00:11:46.74 but the things are still designed. 00:11:46.77\00:11:48.74 Yes. 00:11:48.77\00:11:50.11 The issue is really how competent the designer is. 00:11:50.14\00:11:55.44 So let's see what he's talking about here. 00:11:55.48\00:11:56.91 You see there where the nerves go through, 00:11:56.95\00:11:58.95 that's the blind spot. 00:11:58.98\00:12:00.42 He has a problem with that. 00:12:00.45\00:12:01.95 You will probably notice that most people have two eyes. 00:12:01.98\00:12:06.19 And the great thing is because of our two eyes, 00:12:06.22\00:12:09.89 we have this 180 degree view of everything, 00:12:09.92\00:12:13.33 and the blind spot isn't in the same place 00:12:13.36\00:12:15.26 in both eyes. 00:12:15.30\00:12:16.63 So your brain puts the image together, 00:12:16.67\00:12:18.03 you don't see any blind spot. 00:12:18.07\00:12:19.40 Okay. 00:12:19.43\00:12:20.77 This is actually brilliant design. 00:12:20.80\00:12:22.44 There's something else that's more 00:12:22.47\00:12:23.81 recently been discovered, and that is that, in fact, 00:12:23.84\00:12:26.98 the light does not get dissipated. 00:12:27.01\00:12:30.81 What happens is 00:12:30.85\00:12:32.41 there are these special glial cells 00:12:32.45\00:12:34.42 act like fiber optics, and what they do 00:12:34.45\00:12:36.38 is they carry that light through. 00:12:36.42\00:12:39.02 How fascinating. So it isn't dissipated. 00:12:39.05\00:12:41.59 What happened was the designer 00:12:41.62\00:12:44.03 actually anticipated that problem 00:12:44.06\00:12:47.80 with the nerves running over the front of the eye... 00:12:47.83\00:12:50.53 That's amazing. 00:12:50.57\00:12:51.90 And engineered in a brilliant solution. 00:12:51.93\00:12:54.94 And because of that brilliant solution, 00:12:54.97\00:12:57.74 human beings can do amazing things. 00:12:57.77\00:13:00.18 We have these sensors and those sensors 00:13:00.21\00:13:03.14 are coordinated by our amazing brains 00:13:03.18\00:13:06.61 so that we can see, we can hear, 00:13:06.65\00:13:10.19 we can put all of this information together, 00:13:10.22\00:13:12.52 and we can understand to some degree 00:13:12.55\00:13:15.86 the creation that we all enjoy. 00:13:15.89\00:13:17.39 So poor Richard didn't have this information, 00:13:17.43\00:13:20.30 when he's mocking God's design of eyes. 00:13:20.33\00:13:22.10 He didn't have the information about the glial cells. 00:13:22.13\00:13:24.60 He had all the other information. 00:13:24.63\00:13:26.30 Yes. Yeah. 00:13:26.33\00:13:27.67 But he's been disproven, right? 00:13:27.70\00:13:29.40 Well, it's been shown that that was a foolish 00:13:29.44\00:13:32.27 and presumptive view of things. 00:13:32.31\00:13:33.98 Remember, the Bible encourages us to look for God. 00:13:34.01\00:13:38.71 Amen. 00:13:38.75\00:13:40.08 Evidence of God 00:13:40.12\00:13:42.48 to contemplate what He created 00:13:42.52\00:13:45.29 and what we can learn about God. 00:13:45.32\00:13:47.49 Nature, the creation, doesn't tell us everything. 00:13:47.52\00:13:50.69 Amen. But it tells us plenty. 00:13:50.73\00:13:52.83 So there are a number of points 00:13:52.86\00:13:55.20 that we can get out of this I think. 00:13:55.23\00:13:57.27 Okay. 00:13:57.30\00:13:58.63 The Creator is revealed in the design of humans. 00:13:58.67\00:14:02.30 His love is shown in His provision of senses, 00:14:02.34\00:14:05.77 such a sight, 00:14:05.81\00:14:07.14 so that we can appreciate and enjoy the creation 00:14:07.18\00:14:09.61 He made for us. 00:14:09.64\00:14:10.98 His love is evident in the way He anticipated 00:14:11.01\00:14:13.65 and solved problems created by design necessities 00:14:13.68\00:14:18.25 so that we enjoy senses far better than are minimally 00:14:18.29\00:14:22.12 necessary for survival. 00:14:22.16\00:14:23.96 And He demonstrated His love 00:14:23.99\00:14:25.43 by providing us with nervous systems 00:14:25.46\00:14:27.83 designed for a relationship with Him. 00:14:27.86\00:14:31.63 When you consider the human eyes, 00:14:31.67\00:14:33.10 certainly, you see that there had 00:14:33.13\00:14:35.20 to be intelligent design. 00:14:35.24\00:14:37.04 We're going to take just a short break. 00:14:37.07\00:14:39.41 We'll be back in 60 seconds 00:14:39.44\00:14:41.58 to talk about the practical life application. 00:14:41.61\00:14:45.31