Books of the Book: Thessalonians

Joyous & Thankful

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Participants: Jon Paulien & Jon Ciccarelli

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00:00 Hi and welcome back to Books of the Book where
00:03 we are studying 1 Thessalonians.
00:04 We are going to pick it up now Jon, with verse 5.
00:07 Let me read that for us.
00:23 Alright, so he here, he is giving reasons why he is
00:27 thankful, as I mentioned previously this is all one
00:31 sentence and he is thankful, that is the main sense.
00:34 I give thanks, I give thanks for all these things.
00:38 One of them is that the gospel did not come to them in
00:41 Word only, but in power and the Holy Spirit
00:45 with much certainty.
00:48 So Paul can see when they received the Gospel
00:50 they were changed people. - Yeah!
00:53 The Gospel is not changed, the Gospel is what God has
00:56 done, what Christ has done.
00:57 But change in our lives is evidence that God is
01:00 working and so he saw outward evidences that they had
01:07 power they didn't have before.
01:09 Inward evidences, there was certainty, they had and an
01:13 assurance, a confidence that they didn't have before.
01:17 So there was outward and inward evidence in their lives.
01:20 That is often how you can see God is working in someone's
01:24 life, you see the fruit, the Bible calls it the fruit of
01:27 the Holy Spirit, that love and patience, kindness
01:31 gentleness, I mean there is a whole list of them there.
01:34 Jesus Himself said, a good tree produces good fruit,
01:38 inside and out.
01:40 Well what better evidence do you have that God is working
01:43 in your life then love, peace, patience, long-
01:49 suffering, and stuff like that.
01:51 That is not normal for human beings, it isn't natural,
01:55 it doesn't come easy for us.
01:57 When that happens in our lives it is a miracle of God.
02:01 Paul was observing those miracles going on, and I want to
02:05 point out one word toward the end that it isn't usually
02:08 translated this way, but in the last line of verse five,
02:13 it says, "just as you know what we became among you for
02:17 your sakes. " Now usually that is translated, what we were
02:21 among you, but you see English has a difference between is
02:26 and become. - Okay!
02:29 Greek has a difference too, emi and getomi.
02:32 Paul here doesn't use the normal word for just being.
02:36 It is the word for becoming.
02:38 So he is emphasizing over and over, it occurs five or six
02:43 times in his first two chapters about becoming, becoming.
02:47 There was a transformation, there was a change, things
02:52 were moving in the Thessalonians
02:54 It must've been an unusual church, Paul is so excited by
02:57 this and maybe this is an experience he didn't often have
03:00 in his preaching of how people's lives were transformed
03:05 in this way and we want to emphasize that word became.
03:08 That is why in my translation I bring out that nuance
03:12 over and over again and you'll see it again in verse six
03:15 as well. - I think that is so important Jon.
03:18 Because often times we think of I accept Christ and now
03:22 I am. - yeah. - becoming is so important and I try to
03:26 remind people of this all the time, and my wife tries to
03:29 remind me of this about myself because I can be hard on
03:33 myself to expecting to be at a certain place and
03:35 she reminds me and I try to remind others that we are
03:38 becoming, we are growing, we are in the process.
03:40 I think this is a huge call to veteran Christians, if
03:44 you will, within the church to live that life before
03:48 the younger generations as well.
03:50 Veteran Christians? - yes those who have been walking with Jesus
03:53 for a long time to show and say we are all in a process,
03:57 we are all growing, and that also means being vulnerable.
04:01 You talked about before, real love is also being
04:04 vulnerable, being able to ask for forgiveness.
04:07 One of the things of being a parent, now a veteran
04:11 parents 12 years is we had to learn a lot of humility.
04:15 There are times when I had to say to my own kids when
04:19 I have blown it, to say, maybe one of my children
04:21 didn't do something they were supposed to do and
04:24 I reacted in the wrong way.
04:26 Maybe in anger, you don't always have to respond in anger
04:29 to correct somebody and I hate to admit too often,
04:33 more than I would like to admit, I've had to go to my son
04:36 and daughter and say, you know what? What you did was not
04:39 right, but the way I reacted was not right.
04:41 I did not need to react that way, would you forgive me?
04:44 I confess that to them and think that is what can be done
04:46 in the church as well.
04:48 But to live that out, and to see that we are also becoming
04:50 and that we are growing, so it is essential.
04:53 I have had so many parents come to me and say my children
04:55 aren't in the church and it breaks my heart, what do I do?
04:58 Once I know the situation, and almost every time the
05:02 appropriate answer is well an apology would be a good
05:05 start, because kids are growing, their forming,
05:08 they don't just leave the church because one day
05:12 they decide to leave the church.
05:13 They are usually leaving because they don't see the model
05:17 that they are looking for.
05:19 Paul gets into this, and in the very next couple verses.
05:22 Let's look at that and verses 6 and 7,
05:44 You know we often say, and I think it is absolutely right,
05:47 that only Christ should be imitated.
05:50 If you imitate a human being they are likely to lead you
05:55 astray, but the reality is people will imitate us and it
06:00 is important as veteran Christians, it is important that
06:04 we not just talk the talk, but walk the walk, you see.
06:09 They will model Christianity on us more when we confess
06:14 our sins, when we show a vulnerability then
06:17 when we act so perfect.
06:20 I once was a leader of a youth group and asked the youth
06:24 what is it? What is the one thing that would prevent you
06:29 from staying a Christian when you grow up?
06:31 Do you know what they answered that, several different
06:34 kids answered the same thing.
06:37 They said people who act as if they have no problems.
06:41 They could see there were problems in the church, and they
06:44 can also see the people were not willing to confess those.
06:48 That imitation was very discouraging to the young people
06:53 So Paul is saying look, imitate Christ, but if you have
06:57 never seen, heard, or touched Him, it almost inevitable
07:00 you will probably fix on some human being to imitate.
07:04 We need to realize, if we are veteran Christians that human
07:07 being is us, there is going to be somebody who is looking at us
07:10 and modeling us so in our lives we want to be sure
07:14 we don't just talk, but we also walk, that we practice
07:18 the things that we are preaching. - Umhumm!
07:21 I've had some role models in my past experience, maybe
07:26 a dozen that I could name, just various people who at
07:29 various times in my life plugged one thing into place.
07:33 I picked up this from that one, and this from that one,
07:36 and this from that one.
07:38 It's part of growing, it's part of becoming. - Yeah!
07:42 Paul touches on that here in these verses.
07:45 Yeah, it is scary to think about actually being someone
07:48 that someone maybe is going to imitate, but that is also
07:52 what God has called us to do as we grow in Him.
07:55 Making disciples, you know we've reference that before.
07:58 There is imitating, that part of growing, there is
08:01 a statement, I don't remember where I heard it.
08:04 But it is great. It says we teach what we know, but we
08:07 reproduce who we are. - Oww, that's good!
08:10 That is so true, and that is why we can say one thing
08:13 but if we are not living it, we are going to reproduce
08:16 who we are often in times.
08:18 So it is important that that we. - so if my kids look
08:21 a lot like me, it is my fault? - Or your joy.
08:24 - Or my joy. - that is right, that is right!
08:28 Now if you don't like where your kids are heading
08:30 take a good look in the mirror perhaps.
08:32 If you do like where your kids are heading,
08:33 praise the Lord. - that is right, that is right.
08:36 Well do you want to move on to verses 8 and 10 here?
08:38 Why don't we. - Let's do that.
09:08 The Thessalonians must've been amazing.
09:11 A really great church. - amazing, he is three weeks
09:15 with them and somehow something happens in such a way
09:18 they are fired up and talking about it everywhere.
09:22 Paul is saying he has been to Berea and to Athens and
09:26 to Corinth and in all of these places people are talking
09:30 about what has happening back in Thessalonica.
09:33 That's what he's telling us here, so this was really
09:37 a special church, some really special things were taking
09:41 place and Paul is excited about it, and at the end of
09:45 this verse, verse 10 they were waiting His Son from
09:50 heaven. Part of his faith that was really important to
09:53 Paul among the Thessalonians was that focus on the
09:57 second coming, the focus on the return of Jesus.
10:00 They are walking with Jesus now, they are looking
10:03 forward to being with Him in person in the future.
10:07 So the Thessalonians are kind of remarkable, because
10:11 when you think of the ancient Greek world, the ancient
10:14 Greek world didn't believe in resurrection.
10:16 According to the Greeks it didn't happen, there was no
10:20 such thing, if there was an afterlife, and Plato came up
10:24 with this idea, if there's an afterlife its some bodiless,
10:28 ghostly existence that I'm not sure anyone would really
10:32 want, and so to come with a message of resurrection,
10:37 that the dead can be raised in bodies and special
10:42 heavenly bodies, with new powers that are totally foreign.
10:46 It is a crazy message to talk about raising someone
10:49 from the dead.
10:50 I just did a study of a whole bunch of Greek works on the
10:53 resurrection of the dead, so this is fresh in my mind.
10:56 They did not buy it, so right from the start you are
10:59 bringing them a message that they know is false.
11:03 Not only that, it was a crazy Jewish message.
11:07 So you have all these Gentiles Thessalonians getting
11:10 excited about a message that you would never expect
11:13 them to get excited about.
11:15 So Paul is thrilled and excited and he praises
11:20 God for all of this.
11:22 So we have been talking about becoming, and that gives me
11:27 a chance maybe to talk about stages of Faith just briefly
11:31 here, because people grow through various stages in life.
11:35 The first stage is where you get acquainted with God.
11:38 The second stage is where you become a disciple,
11:42 you attach yourself, imitate someone.
11:44 The third stage is when you become a leader and other
11:48 people imitate you, you see the Thessalonians they have
11:51 gone through all three stages that often takes decades
11:54 for people, they have gone through all three stages.
11:56 But then there is something else that happens,
11:59 when you are successful, when you are following God and
12:03 people are admiring what you do for God, often there
12:06 comes something we call a dark night of the soul.
12:09 The Thessalonians had that too.
12:11 The dark night is when suffering comes, when persecution
12:15 comes, when trouble comes, when inner turmoil happens.
12:18 We may at that time think God is abandoning us.
12:22 You may be going through a dark night right now and feel
12:26 like God is abandoning you, but it is a normal part of
12:30 a healthy growing Christian experience.
12:33 What it does is it weans away the pride, it pulls you
12:37 away from those things which holds you back and allows
12:42 you to serve God in a more selfless manner.
12:45 So growth will come through hard times, it did for the
12:50 Thessalonians, and it will for us.
12:51 We don't need to be frustrated about that because in the
12:55 end, what we have gone through those difficult times,
13:00 and when we come more solely focused on God, then we can
13:04 come closer and closer to the Spirit and the character
13:08 Jesus who loved others because God loved them.
13:12 It didn't matter if they were nice, it did not matter if
13:14 they were friendly, He loved them because
13:16 they were souls that God loved.
13:18 Well we can see from Paul's writings that he had a lot
13:23 to be thankful about. - Yes!
13:24 There was a lot of fruit in their life of what God was
13:27 doing through the word that He gave them.
13:30 So we are happy that we could look at this section of
13:35 Scripture, that we can be thankful all the time and
13:40 keep growing in God's Word. God bless you!


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