O they tell me of a
home far beyond the skies
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O they tell me
of a home far away;
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O they tell me of a home
where no storm clouds rise,
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O they tell me
of an unclouded day.
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O they tell me of a
King in His beauty there
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And they tell me that
mine eyes shall behold
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Where He sits on the
throne that is whiter than snow
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In the city
that is made of gold.
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O the land of cloudless day
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O the land of an unclouded day
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O they tell me of a home
where no storm clouds rise
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O they tell me
of an unclouded day.
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Unclouded day, unclouded
Unclouded day, unclouded
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Unclouded day, unclouded
Unclouded day, unclouded
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O they tell me that
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He smiles on his children there
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And His smile
drives their sorrows away
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And they tell me that
no tears ever come again
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In that lovely
land of unclouded day
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O the land of cloudless day
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O the land of an unclouded day
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O they tell me of a home
where no storm clouds rise
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O they tell me
of an unclouded day.
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O the land of cloudless day
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O the land of an unclouded day
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O they tell me of a home
where no storm clouds rise
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O they tell me, O they
tell me of an unclouded day.
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Sometimes commonly
held beliefs are true.
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Other times
popular opinion is just
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playing role.
With thousands of ideas
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and theories about
the end of the earth,
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many Christians bitterly
disagree with each other
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about the Appearing.
But what does the Bible say?
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Can we look to the
past to find answers
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for the future? Will
history repeat itself?
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And good evening
everyone and welcome back
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to the special
presentation of the
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Appearing with Pastor
Shawn Boonstra of it is
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Written Television.
Tonight special topic
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"When History repeats
itself." And this is coming
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right down to the
core of the seminar.
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You are gonna come
away with some exciting
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new ideas as you see
Pastor Boonstra unfold
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scripture tonight.
And for all of you here in
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our studio
audience please welcome
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tonight Pastor Shawn Boonstra.
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Good evening again,
welcome back tonight
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number four of the Appearing.
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Tonight's subject,
"When History Repeats Itself."
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Tonight we are
gonna change gears just
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a little bit and we
are gonna start on packing
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some Bible prophecy
and some people are gonna
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say well a lot of
charts and diagrams and maths
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and stuff tonight. Hang
in there it's going to be
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well worth your timing tonight.
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Before we get into
our subject though I know
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that a lot people
have been saying man
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this is only five
nights. You can't possibly cover
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everything there
is to know about Bible
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prophecy in five nights and
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you're absolutely
right. Usually when I teach a
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Bible prophecy I
will go 26 or 30 nights,
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and still you don't
cover it all. Now some people
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are saying well you
know we're kind of being
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teased a little bit if
you only have five nights
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and there are so much
to study it's gonna be
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over and that's it.
And we still wanna study,
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well the good news
is wherever you are
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you can keep
studying. Wherever you are talk
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to your local moderator,
we can continue to study
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Bible prophecy
week after week and
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there will be
classes and study groups
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wherever you are. And
you can keep studying now
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Tonight I just
wanna emphasize one point,
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every time that I
teach Bible prophecy without
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fail I've noticed that
when Christians get into
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a discussion with
each other on this subject
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sometimes they
get a little hot under
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the collar. For some
reason Bible prophecy
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gets our goat up
more than just about
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anything else and
I'm guilty of it too.
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I've got into hot
debates you believe it or not,
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I love to argue ask
my wife, I love to argue.
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And I'm actually pretty good at.
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But, that's not
what's it's about Jesus
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didn't put things
in the Bible for us to
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argue about. And
sometimes we get in this
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habit of saying, well
if you don't believe it
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like I believe it;
you're not a real Christian.
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And if I don't
believe it like you do
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don't believe it you are
still not a real Christian.
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And people find
about it. I heard about two
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guys they were
fighting like this over
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Bible prophecy and
they were sitting in some
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cafe somewhere,
looking at each other over
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the table, one said that's it,
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I'm convinced
beyond the shun over doubt
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because you don't see
things my way you're not
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a Christian as matter
of fact, I know for sure
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you are not a
Christian I'll bet you couldn't
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even recite the Ten
Commandments if you tried.
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I could too said the guy,
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I can reside the
Ten Commandments,
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oh yeah he said I've
got $20 says you can't.
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Pull the $20 bill
out put it on the table;
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now I'm not advocating
gambling over the Bible,
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just hang in there.
Put $20 on the table,
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guy thought for a
minute, he thought,
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oh I got to come up with that,
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now the Ten
Commandments oh I know it.
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Now I lay me down to sleep,
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I pray the Lord my soul to keep.
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The guy looking at him
was wide eyed in amazement,
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and he said wow, I
didn't think you could do it,
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here's your 20 bucks.
Now, here's the point,
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when it comes to
Bible prophecy we've all got
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some stuff that we don't know.
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There are things
that we know for sure
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and there are
things that we don't know.
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And what's neat about
a seminar like this is,
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we are gathering all
around North America,
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I've talk to some
people who are Christians
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from all walks of life
and believers from all walks
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of life and Baptists
and Pentecostals also
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Catholic Christians
and Adventist Christians
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and Methodist
Christians, all sorts,
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and what's neat is
when we sit together
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and open God's
word and let Him speak,
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all of a sudden things
become clear and we have
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Christian harmony,
it's a beautiful thing.
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It's a beautiful
thing. Now not everybody
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has all the truth and
not everybody has everything,
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what we're gonna
study here is what we know
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for sure. Now sometimes,
people will see things
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at well I didn't
always see it at that way
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and I am not sure
that's how I think about it.
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Well that's fine. The
only challenge I have for you,
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the only request that
I ask is everything that
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said by any preacher,
any speaker, any book,
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anywhere it's
just said you go home
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and check it against
the Bible. Let God speak
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to it and you go
with what the Bible says.
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Is that fair? Yes it
is! Yes the fairest thing
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I know how to do.
Tonight's subject,
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"When History
Repeats Itself!" Let's pray.
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Father in heaven,
tonight we are gonna
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look at the
Appearing in greater detail.
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Tonight we are
gonna do examine a subject
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that brings hope to
my heart, that actually
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convicted me that Jesus is Lord.
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And Father I ask
tonight that you would bless
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my words that tonigh
everything would come
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straight from the word of God,
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that man's
opinion could be put aside
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and that tonight
we would see Jesus
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and hear His
voice, for we ask it in
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His precious name, Amen. Amen.
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There was the
brochure in my hand.
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You should have
seen it. I had been out
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apartment hunting. I
was 17 or 18 years old
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and I had had it
with living on campus.
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It was noisy, it was
dirty, it was an awful
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place to live. I
wanted a place of my own.
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So I went apartment
hunting, in the city
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they had 0.3 percent vacancy,
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I looked everywhere
and the places I looked
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at were dumps. They were awful.
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I would rather live in
a chicken coop than most
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of the places I looked
at, that fit my budget.
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And then I saw it,
the executive apartments,
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you should have
seen the brochure.
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What a beautiful
place? They were furnished
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apartments with
leather furniture
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and it said that all
the furnishings were there
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and linens and the
dishes and I opened it up
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and it said, look
there is a beautiful patio,
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it had a picture of
this beautiful sundeck with
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all these beautiful
girls who apparently sunbath
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there all day long everyday.
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And I said, this is
it. I signed the lease
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without looking
at the apartment.
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When I got there,
there was no beautiful patio,
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there were no
beautiful girls, there was a big
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landlord named
Andy, who walked around
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in his T-shirt all
day long and he said
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I am the patio. I
went up into the apartment
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and it was the
dirtiest thing I've ever seen
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in my life. There
was hair in the carpet,
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this long, everywhere.
Everything was broken,
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nothing worked and
I went to the window
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and I discovered
outside my window that
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there was some
guy sleeping in the
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dumpster outside. And
for a moment I thought
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that poor guy
sleeping in the dumpster
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and then I turned
around and looked at my
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apartment and I
thought you know what?
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At least he's not
paying for it. I don't know.
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If you have every
looked at something
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in realty and it
doesn't fit the picture
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you've always had in
you head. It happens to me
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all the time, happens
when I go on vacation,
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the brochure looks
so nice and when you get
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there it's
nothing like you thought.
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The buildings are
in different places,
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nothing is
pristine as they said it was
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going to be, it's
never exactly like they said
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it was going to be.
Now, at our last meeting
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we looked at what
we do know for sure.
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The Bible says and
I believe by the way
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that when Jesus
comes we're still in for
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a few surprises,
there will be things
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we had never thought
of when it's actually
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happening, we'll
look at say, I never
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thought of that,
I didn't notice that
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and I think when
we get to heaven Jesus
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will open the
Bible and say well that
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was always there,
you should have seen
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it and He will
be right as always.
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Now we saw five
things the other night,
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Jesus will come back literally.
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It will really be him
in his flesh and bones;
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it will be Jesus
coming back the way
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He went up in the
clouds, He comes back
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in the clouds He
literally comes back.
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Then we saw that
every eye was gonna
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see Him. We saw that in
Revelation 1 and verse 7.
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Then we saw that every
ear is going to hear Jesus,
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and when Jesus
comes there will be a
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trumpet blast, there
will be the shout of the
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Archangel, there
will be so much noise
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it awakes the dead we saw.
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Then we saw that
it would be stunningly
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glorious when
Jesus comes He comes with
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how many angels?
All. He comes with all
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the heavenly
angels, billions of them.
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And when He comes
it will mark the end
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of earth's history.
Five things we know beyond
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the shadow of a
doubt, straight out of the
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word of God. Now, I
wanna ask a question tonight.
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I think anytime that
human beings have an idea
00:12:10.76\00:12:13.07
about prophecy. We
need to go to the Bible
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on a regular basis
and check up on ourselves,
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what do you think?
Yes. Yeah I have to change
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my mind every day.
First of all in the morning
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when my wife tells
me that I was wrong
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I changed my mind.
Secondly when I open
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my Bible in the
morning I find out I've been
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wrong about
something, I've always had to
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alter my perspective or tweak my
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understanding a little
bit. And so I wanna ask
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the five things that
we know for sure beyond
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the shadow of a
doubt how do they fit
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with modern
understanding of Bible prophecy?
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Well there are
so many scenarios,
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there are
thousands of scenarios of
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Bible prophecy. I
talked to a thousand people,
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I'll get a thousands
ideas but there is one
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that seems to come
to the surface more
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often than not,
that there is probably
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the most popular
scenario out there.
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So, I wanna put
it to the Bible test,
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now this scenario
says that there will be
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a seven year burst
of time just at the end
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of earth's history.
At the beginning of that
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seven year period of
time Jesus comes back
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for all the believers
and then seven years go by.
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During those
seven years the scenario
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says the antichrist appears.
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Now there's
variations on it, but some say
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that he will
appear in Jerusalem that
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he will permit the
building of the temple,
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some say the
temple was already built
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when Jesus came for the church.
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And others say
no, it happened after
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but He makes a
pact, this scenario says
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with the nation of
Israel and half way through
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the seven years
he breaks that pact,
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an unbridled terror
reigns all over the earth,
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those who wanna
be loyal to God face
00:13:41.76\00:13:43.75
tremendous persecution.
Then Jesus has taken
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the church away,
He's come to the world,
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snatched the church
out of the world quickly,
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quietly, secretly and
then after seven years
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He comes back
with all the believers
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and destroys the antichrist.
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This is known as the
two phase coming of Jesus,
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two phases
because Jesus first comes
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for the church,
then He comes back to
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this earth and
destroys the antichrist.
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This is probably the
most popular scenario
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anywhere on planet
earth. The question I have
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for you tonight, is
it Biblically accurate?
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Should we put it
to the test yes or no?
00:14:16.85\00:14:18.34
Yes. Are you sure
you wanna put it to the
00:14:18.35\00:14:20.51
test yes or no? Yes.
Okay buckle your seat belts,
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here we go. Is it
Biblically accurate?
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On many fronts as
I've examined this I find
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a biblical match in
this theory on many,
00:14:28.48\00:14:31.58
many fronts, here is why?
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This theory teaches us
that time is running out
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more quickly than
people think it is.
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It could have Jesus
to come in any moment
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and to an extent I
got to say amen to that,
00:14:40.16\00:14:42.99
because Jesus said in
such an hour as you think
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not I'm coming back.
Some people say to me
00:14:46.66\00:14:49.38
preacher I don't
think Jesus could come
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in my lifetime.
Well watch out Jesus said
00:14:51.28\00:14:53.60
in such an hour as you think not
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He's gonna come. So
it does teach us time
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is running out more
quickly then people think.
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It also teaches that
there is a massive deception
00:14:59.72\00:15:01.92
in the last days that
leads people away from God.
00:15:01.93\00:15:04.53
I can say amen to
that, because in Revelation
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chapter 13 we read
about it first beast power
00:15:07.37\00:15:09.95
and a second beast
power that create this
00:15:09.96\00:15:13.17
world wide deception.
The second beast the Bible
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says even
performs miracles to lead
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people astray, and
leads people to worship
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the first beast as if He
is God. So that's accurate,
00:15:20.94\00:15:23.92
there will be a last
day massive deception.
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Millions of says this
theory will be surprised
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by the return of Christ.
And that is certainly true.
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It says in the Bible as
it was in the days of Noah
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and it will be that
way when Jesus comes again.
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Those people didn't
know anything until suddenly,
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well they didn't know
anything, no one preach
00:15:41.47\00:15:42.96
to them for 120 years,
but they chose to ignore it.
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And one day they
found themselves standing
00:15:45.74\00:15:47.53
knee deep in water
and they realized prophecy
00:15:47.54\00:15:50.11
never is wrong, but
it came as a surprise
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to them, Jesus said
as it was in the days
00:15:53.61\00:15:56.08
of Noah it will
be when Jesus comes
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that's the truth.
It also teaches us that
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it pays to stand on the
Bible and the Bible alone
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for what we will believe?
I got to say amen to that.
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I want no other
text book then the
00:16:07.25\00:16:08.96
word of God. I
don't want man's opinion
00:16:08.97\00:16:11.05
it's lead me
astray far too many times.
00:16:11.06\00:16:12.88
I don't want anymore
books I got thousands
00:16:13.19\00:16:15.17
of them, give me
one book, give me the
00:16:15.18\00:16:17.03
word of God. I got to
know what the Bible says
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because you know what
it says in Revelation 13
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that in the last days
it is the beast powers
00:16:22.09\00:16:26.16
that bring fire down
from the sky on the earth.
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Now we saw the other
night the story of Elijah
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where God rained
fire down on the earth,
00:16:31.68\00:16:33.35
the Bible says in
the last days watch out
00:16:33.36\00:16:35.48
the fire falls in
the wrong places don't be
00:16:35.94\00:16:38.90
persuaded by
miracles be persuaded by what
00:16:38.91\00:16:41.43
the Bible says
and the Bible only.
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Then we can agree
the time to decide
00:16:44.33\00:16:46.79
for Christ is now,
not when the crisis hits.
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Don't bank up
thinking okay will if I see
00:16:50.32\00:16:52.56
Jesus come, I'm gonna
have a quick conversion
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to Jesus and I'm
gonna change everything
00:16:54.88\00:16:56.66
as I see Him
coming in the eastern
00:16:56.67\00:16:57.98
sky too late, too
late at that point.
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When Jesus comes
all decisions are final
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the book of Hebrew
says that today is the day
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of salvation that's all truth,
00:17:07.01\00:17:08.98
but I think about this theory
00:17:09.37\00:17:10.89
and I do have some questions,
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would you like to hear
the questions that I have?
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Yes, I was gonna
tell you what you wanted
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to hear them or not.
I have some questions.
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You know Dr. Rowland
Bingham was the editor
00:17:20.73\00:17:23.20
of the Evangelical
Christian for years,
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a Godly scholar and a great man.
00:17:25.88\00:17:28.00
And one night
on a Saturday night
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he was preparing
a sermon for Sunday
00:17:29.89\00:17:31.45
morning when there was
knock at his study door,
00:17:31.46\00:17:33.77
it was his dear
wife. And she came into the
00:17:33.78\00:17:36.13
room and she said
Rowly, I don't know that
00:17:36.14\00:17:38.25
she called him
Rowly for sure, but Rowly,
00:17:38.26\00:17:40.37
I got this thing going
on, I've got to teach Sunday
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school tomorrow
morning and our subject
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is the second coming of Christ.
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And I wanna teach the
kids how Jesus will come
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quietly for the
church and I've been looking
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for the passage that says so
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and I'm wondering if you
could tell me where it is.
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Oh he said that's easy,
go to First Thessalonians
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chapter 4, so she did.
And she read the passage
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and it said this,
we've seen this already.
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For the Lord Himself
shall descend from heaven
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with a shout, with the
voice of the archangel,
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and with the trumpet of God.
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And the dead in
Christ shall rise first.
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Then we who are
alive and remain shall be
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caught up together
with them in the clouds
00:18:17.13\00:18:18.77
to meet the Lord in the air.
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And thus shall we
always be with the Lord.
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Well she
thought, I got to go back
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and see Rowly, so
she went back into
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Rowly's study. I
hope his name was Rowly,
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I hope that was his
nick name. Rowly she said,
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I just read First
Thessalonians chapter 4
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and that is the
noisiest verse I've ever read
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in all my life. I
asked you for the verse
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where Jesus comes quietly.
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He says that's the
one. That's the one that
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teaches that Jesus
comes quietly for everybody.
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She said it's not
there. He closed his study door
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that night. He tells
us this is what happened.
00:18:49.01\00:18:50.80
"In sheer
desperation I took out my Bible.
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God bless people
who take out their Bible
00:18:53.77\00:18:56.24
to check to see what
it says, and threw myself
00:18:56.25\00:18:58.77
helplessly on the
Lord. The weeks that followed
00:18:58.78\00:19:01.43
that innocent query
and the trouble into
00:19:01.44\00:19:03.69
which it landed me
is a separate story.
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If you hold, now
pay attention carefully,
00:19:06.53\00:19:08.87
if you hold to the
theory of a secret rapture
00:19:09.54\00:19:12.21
of the church, try
out that simple question
00:19:12.22\00:19:14.86
on yourself." Now
what question is that?
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Where is it in the
Bible? Great question.
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There are five things we
know about Christ return.
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He will come
literally, He will come visibly,
00:19:26.48\00:19:29.73
He will come audibly,
He will come gloriously
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with all the angels
and it marks the end of
00:19:32.98\00:19:35.17
earth's history. I
need to ask you an honest
00:19:35.18\00:19:37.25
question tonight as
we look and don't jump
00:19:37.26\00:19:40.63
to any conclusions
before you hear me out,
00:19:40.64\00:19:42.74
is that a fair observation?
00:19:42.75\00:19:44.08
Don't jump to
any conclusions yet.
00:19:44.09\00:19:45.86
I might surprise
everybody just yet.
00:19:45.87\00:19:47.79
But, as we look at
those five things that
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we know beyond
the shadow of a doubt,
00:19:50.53\00:19:52.43
did any of it sound
to you like Jesus was
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coming quietly, yes or no?
00:19:55.89\00:19:57.21
No. It doesn't seem to
say it, it doesn't sound
00:19:57.64\00:20:01.41
like a secret coming.
I have some questions.
00:20:01.94\00:20:04.79
This theory teaches
that Jesus comes first
00:20:05.32\00:20:08.62
quietly for the
church and later He comes
00:20:08.63\00:20:10.69
back in glory. But,
the Bible says every eye
00:20:10.70\00:20:13.77
sees Jesus when He comes,
00:20:13.78\00:20:15.21
now if every eye
sees Jesus including
00:20:15.61\00:20:18.39
the wicked, how can
his arrival be a secret?
00:20:18.40\00:20:22.47
The Bible says that
the wicked sees the second
00:20:23.27\00:20:26.46
coming when Jesus
comes for his church.
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You got to approve
that to me preacher, okay.
00:20:28.43\00:20:30.60
Take a look at
what the Bible says.
00:20:30.61\00:20:32.24
Matthew 24 verse 30,
pay attention carefully,
00:20:32.76\00:20:35.55
Jesus is speaking,
"Then the sign of the Son
00:20:36.12\00:20:39.07
of Man will appear in heaven,
00:20:39.08\00:20:40.57
and then all the tribes
of the earth will mourn,
00:20:40.94\00:20:43.41
and they will see
the Son of Man coming
00:20:43.42\00:20:45.40
on the clouds of
heaven with power
00:20:45.41\00:20:47.57
and great glory."
That says all the tribes
00:20:47.58\00:20:50.96
and it says that they mourn.
00:20:50.97\00:20:52.16
Now let me ask you a question,
00:20:52.50\00:20:54.29
do God's people
mourn when they see
00:20:54.30\00:20:56.03
Jesus coming, yes or
no? No. Absolutely not.
00:20:56.04\00:20:58.43
These are the
people who did not prepare
00:20:58.88\00:21:00.41
for the appearing.
Now somebody will say
00:21:00.42\00:21:02.35
but pastor that
verse is talking about the
00:21:02.36\00:21:05.32
second phase, Jesus
comes first for the church
00:21:05.33\00:21:08.62
and then He comes in
glory in the second phase
00:21:09.08\00:21:11.29
and establishes
a kingdom on earth.
00:21:11.30\00:21:13.02
This is where Jesus
comes back on the second
00:21:13.33\00:21:16.21
part of that in
the second phase.
00:21:16.22\00:21:17.96
I could accept it,
except for one tiny little
00:21:18.75\00:21:22.06
problem the very
next verse Jesus says
00:21:22.07\00:21:24.90
just the opposite in
the very next verse speaking
00:21:24.91\00:21:27.99
about the same event
where the wicked mourn
00:21:28.00\00:21:30.24
when they see
Jesus coming He says,
00:21:30.25\00:21:32.11
And He will send His
angels with a great sound
00:21:32.12\00:21:34.99
of a trumpet, and
they will gather together
00:21:35.00\00:21:37.15
His elect from the four winds,
00:21:37.16\00:21:38.99
from one end of
heaven to the other.
00:21:39.00\00:21:40.87
At the same
moment that Jesus comes
00:21:41.33\00:21:44.64
for his church, the
Bible says the wicked
00:21:44.65\00:21:47.06
see Him coming and they mourn,
00:21:47.37\00:21:49.70
in the very same
passage just a couple
00:21:50.08\00:21:52.43
of verses later
Jesus adds this detail.
00:21:52.44\00:21:54.79
For as in the
days before the flood,
00:21:55.28\00:21:57.43
they were eating
and drinking, marrying
00:21:57.44\00:22:00.13
and giving in marriage,
until the day that Noah
00:22:00.14\00:22:03.19
entered into the ark,
and did not know until
00:22:03.20\00:22:05.73
the flood came and
took them all away,
00:22:05.74\00:22:08.16
so also will the
coming of the Son of Man be."
00:22:08.79\00:22:13.09
Now Jesus said if
you wanna know what the
00:22:13.39\00:22:15.62
second coming is
really gonna be like, go back
00:22:15.63\00:22:17.91
to the great flood of Noah.
00:22:18.22\00:22:20.00
Now incidentally Noah
preached the Bible says
00:22:20.40\00:22:22.62
about a 120 years
telling everybody it's coming,
00:22:22.89\00:22:25.29
it's coming, it's
coming and people laughed,
00:22:25.30\00:22:28.20
they stood there
and they looked at Noah
00:22:28.21\00:22:29.73
and they said look at
that big boat you're building
00:22:29.74\00:22:32.07
Noah that
doesn't make any sense.
00:22:32.08\00:22:33.72
There was some
indication the book of Genesis
00:22:33.73\00:22:35.42
that may have rained
to that point that they
00:22:35.43\00:22:37.22
dew came up from the ground and
00:22:37.23\00:22:38.47
watered the earth.
And they looked and said
00:22:38.48\00:22:40.01
why are you building
that big boat there for
00:22:40.02\00:22:41.54
Captain Noah, there is
never gonna be a flood,
00:22:41.55\00:22:43.99
you are off your
rocker, look at that old Noah's
00:22:44.00\00:22:46.80
cheese finally
slipped off the cracker,
00:22:46.81\00:22:48.31
and he
preached, and he preached,
00:22:50.97\00:22:52.18
and he preached, and
nobody believed it until
00:22:52.19\00:22:55.89
suddenly they were
chest deep in water.
00:22:55.90\00:22:58.03
Now here's the
point. The people who were
00:22:58.76\00:23:01.41
ready and the people
who were not experience
00:23:01.42\00:23:04.22
that flood at
the very same moment.
00:23:04.23\00:23:08.05
And Jesus says
when I come again;
00:23:08.46\00:23:10.06
the wicked and the
righteous will experience
00:23:10.65\00:23:13.46
that at the very same moment.
00:23:13.93\00:23:16.88
At the moment He
sends His angels to gather
00:23:16.89\00:23:18.91
everybody and
there is a great sound
00:23:18.92\00:23:20.59
of the trumpet the
tribes look up and they
00:23:20.60\00:23:22.76
mourn everybody at
the very same moment.
00:23:22.77\00:23:26.36
The Bible does not
describe two phases
00:23:26.37\00:23:28.62
to the second coming,
it only describes one,
00:23:28.63\00:23:31.13
2500 references
to the second coming
00:23:31.14\00:23:34.44
in the Bible and
I've gone through it,
00:23:34.45\00:23:35.93
I've looked at them
that never ever describes
00:23:35.94\00:23:38.82
more than one
coming. That's not the only
00:23:39.20\00:23:41.22
question I have
though, first of all,
00:23:41.23\00:23:42.88
if every eye sees
Him, including the wicked,
00:23:42.89\00:23:44.81
how can Jesus arrival be
a secret? It doesn't add up.
00:23:44.82\00:23:47.58
The next question
I had and by the way
00:23:47.99\00:23:49.99
I've always been a
big proponent of the two
00:23:50.65\00:23:52.81
phase coming of
Christ until I started asking
00:23:52.82\00:23:55.49
some questions. When
does the antichrist appear?
00:23:55.50\00:23:59.58
This is an important question in
00:23:59.59\00:24:01.04
Bible prophecy, in
this popular scenario
00:24:01.05\00:24:03.52
that's sweeping
the nation by storm
00:24:03.53\00:24:05.44
at the moment, in
this two phase coming,
00:24:05.45\00:24:07.77
Jesus comes, takes
away the church there's a
00:24:07.78\00:24:10.68
seven year period of
time then He comes back
00:24:10.69\00:24:13.05
and sets up His kingdom on earth
00:24:13.06\00:24:14.83
and destroys antichrist.
This says the antichrist
00:24:14.84\00:24:18.19
appears after Jesus
comes for His church,
00:24:18.20\00:24:21.09
is that clear?
Everybody with me,
00:24:21.10\00:24:23.03
or is everybody
asleep, are you with me?
00:24:23.04\00:24:24.67
Yes. Okay. Jesus
comes for believers
00:24:24.68\00:24:28.20
and then the antichrist
and then He comes back.
00:24:28.54\00:24:30.66
Our only one
issue, one question I have
00:24:31.17\00:24:33.18
about that, it's found
Second Thessalonians 2,
00:24:33.19\00:24:35.51
it says, Now,
brethren, concerning the coming
00:24:35.93\00:24:38.58
of our Lord Jesus
Christ and our gathering
00:24:38.59\00:24:41.29
together to Him. This
is written to Christians
00:24:41.30\00:24:43.21
waiting for Jesus
to come for the church.
00:24:43.22\00:24:45.04
"Coming of our Lord
Jesus Christ and our gathering
00:24:45.49\00:24:47.54
together to Him, we
ask you not to be soon
00:24:47.55\00:24:50.69
shaken in mind or
troubled, either by spirit
00:24:50.70\00:24:53.26
or by word or by
letter, as if from us,
00:24:53.57\00:24:56.59
as though the day
of Christ had come."
00:24:56.60\00:24:58.59
Now this is the
second letter Paul wrote
00:24:58.60\00:25:00.59
to Thessalonians. In
the first letter he said
00:25:00.60\00:25:02.82
the Lord shall
descend from heaven with
00:25:02.83\00:25:04.27
a shout with the
voice of the archangel,
00:25:04.28\00:25:06.14
with the trumpet of
God, the dead in Christ
00:25:06.15\00:25:07.32
shall rise first.
The Thessalonians just
00:25:07.33\00:25:09.48
got all excited they
said, wow it's gonna happen
00:25:09.49\00:25:11.60
tomorrow get
ready. And Paul wrote back
00:25:11.61\00:25:13.56
to them and said
hey don't be bothered
00:25:13.57\00:25:15.22
by that last
letter, don't get too hasty,
00:25:15.23\00:25:17.75
don't jump the
gun, something needs
00:25:17.76\00:25:19.56
to happen before
Jesus comes for His church,
00:25:19.57\00:25:21.60
what is it? Let no one
deceive you by any means.
00:25:21.61\00:25:26.74
As if somebody might
try to confuse this issue,
00:25:26.75\00:25:29.73
that no one
deceive you by any means;
00:25:30.02\00:25:32.13
for that day will not
come unless the falling
00:25:32.14\00:25:36.89
away comes first, and
the man of sin is revealed,
00:25:36.90\00:25:40.10
the son of perdition,
who opposes and exalts
00:25:40.11\00:25:42.87
himself above all
that is called God
00:25:42.88\00:25:44.53
or that is
worshiped, so that He sits as
00:25:44.54\00:25:46.79
God in the temple of
God, showing himself that
00:25:46.80\00:25:50.48
He is God. Paul says
don't get excited yet,
00:25:50.49\00:25:54.19
Jesus will come for
His church but not until
00:25:54.58\00:25:58.28
after the antichrist
appears and then a few
00:25:58.29\00:26:01.73
verses later he
says when Jesus comes
00:26:01.74\00:26:03.87
for His church
that's when He destroys
00:26:04.06\00:26:06.11
the antichrist. And
then the lawless one in
00:26:06.12\00:26:08.77
Second Thessalonians
2 verse 8, "And then the
00:26:08.78\00:26:11.04
lawless one will be
revealed, whom the Lord
00:26:11.05\00:26:13.59
will consume with
the breath of His mouth
00:26:13.60\00:26:15.77
and destroy with the
brightness of His coming."
00:26:15.78\00:26:20.95
Jesus destroys the
antichrist when He comes
00:26:21.52\00:26:24.06
for His church,
how do you know that?
00:26:24.07\00:26:25.72
How do you know that pastor?
00:26:25.73\00:26:26.79
This is a very interesting
word, this word coming
00:26:26.80\00:26:30.02
in the Greek
language it's Parousia,
00:26:30.40\00:26:32.91
Parousia what is that word mean?
00:26:32.92\00:26:34.65
That is the word
that is used when a King
00:26:35.08\00:26:37.39
makes a grand
entrance into a room.
00:26:37.40\00:26:39.79
Kings typically
don't sneak into rooms.
00:26:40.35\00:26:42.33
They wait until
everybody is assembled
00:26:42.34\00:26:44.40
then everybody is
irritated that it's taken
00:26:44.41\00:26:46.13
a little while and
then they step out.
00:26:46.14\00:26:48.01
See it's the word
would use for the Oscars
00:26:48.94\00:26:51.35
when they pull up
in their limousines
00:26:51.36\00:26:52.87
and the stars will
step out and make an
00:26:52.88\00:26:55.01
entrance, it's a big appearance,
00:26:55.02\00:26:56.87
it's a big
entrance. Parousia when Jesus
00:26:57.32\00:27:00.45
makes His big
Parousia His great big entrance
00:27:00.46\00:27:03.30
He will destroy the antichrist.
00:27:03.31\00:27:04.78
See and then Paul
says, the Bible says,
00:27:05.30\00:27:07.42
that Jesus makes His Parousia
00:27:08.86\00:27:11.23
when He comes for His church.
00:27:12.05\00:27:13.82
Will there really
be, by the way just as
00:27:14.48\00:27:17.69
I'm on that, First
Thessalonians 4 verse 16
00:27:17.70\00:27:19.92
when Jesus says that
He will come the word
00:27:19.93\00:27:22.39
there again as He
gathers the church
00:27:22.40\00:27:24.44
and wakes the
dead, His Parousia,
00:27:24.45\00:27:26.48
His big entrance,
it's of that big entrance
00:27:26.49\00:27:29.42
that the
antichrist is destroyed.
00:27:29.43\00:27:31.40
When does the antichrist appear?
00:27:31.81\00:27:33.15
The most popular
theory says after the church
00:27:33.16\00:27:35.10
is gone, impossible
according to the Bible.
00:27:35.11\00:27:38.06
When Jesus comes for
His church He destroys
00:27:38.61\00:27:40.74
the antichrist. The
third question I have is this.
00:27:40.75\00:27:43.15
Will there really be
a second chance after
00:27:44.57\00:27:49.26
Jesus comes? After Jesus comes.
00:27:49.27\00:27:51.80
Here's the popular
scenario. Jesus comes
00:27:51.81\00:27:54.57
for the believers,
there are some left behind
00:27:54.58\00:27:56.89
that suffer through the
reign of the antichrist,
00:27:56.90\00:27:58.75
some of them
turn to Jesus and then
00:27:59.08\00:28:02.42
they're ready for
Him when He comes again
00:28:02.43\00:28:04.47
in the second phase.
If you think about this,
00:28:04.48\00:28:07.15
this is really saying
that if you miss it the
00:28:07.16\00:28:09.33
first time you
will get another chance,
00:28:09.34\00:28:11.46
the second time. Now
this is a popular scenario,
00:28:11.88\00:28:15.32
I remember seeing this
movie when I was a kid.
00:28:15.33\00:28:17.24
I got invited to this
church they were great
00:28:17.25\00:28:19.49
Godly Christian
people. And they had this film
00:28:19.50\00:28:22.24
that they showed
us one Saturday night
00:28:22.25\00:28:23.71
and I have to admit it
did me a world of good,
00:28:23.72\00:28:25.94
it scared the pants off of me.
00:28:25.95\00:28:27.20
And this guy
wakes up in the morning,
00:28:28.64\00:28:30.21
he rolls over in bed
and his wife is gone.
00:28:30.22\00:28:32.57
Her nightgown's still
there, and her wedding
00:28:33.13\00:28:34.73
band's sill
there, but she is gone.
00:28:34.74\00:28:36.16
And there was
actually some bad acting
00:28:36.65\00:28:38.73
in there because
he didn't say a word,
00:28:38.74\00:28:40.03
he just got out of
bed. And he walks around for
00:28:40.04\00:28:43.07
a while wondering
where everybody is
00:28:43.08\00:28:44.49
and then he gets in
his car drives through
00:28:44.50\00:28:46.33
town there are cars in the ditch
00:28:46.34\00:28:47.67
and airplanes in the ground.
00:28:47.68\00:28:48.80
And half the town
is missing he hears
00:28:48.81\00:28:50.77
on the radio. Then he
finds a copy of the Bible
00:28:50.78\00:28:53.22
and he says hey
everything God said was
00:28:53.23\00:28:55.76
happening, has
happened and Jesus has come
00:28:55.77\00:28:57.99
and taken the
church. So then in the movie
00:28:58.00\00:29:00.62
he joins a
resistance force who resist
00:29:01.08\00:29:03.16
the antichrist he
gives his heart to God
00:29:03.17\00:29:04.98
so that he is
ready the next time.
00:29:04.99\00:29:06.90
This theory says,
you get another chance
00:29:07.47\00:29:09.74
after Jesus
comes for the church,
00:29:09.75\00:29:11.69
I wonder if it's
true. Revelation 22:11,
00:29:11.70\00:29:15.50
"He who is unjust,
Jesus said let him be
00:29:15.51\00:29:17.66
unjust still; he who
is filthy, let him be
00:29:17.67\00:29:19.97
filthy still; he
who is righteous,
00:29:19.98\00:29:21.98
let him be righteous
still; he who is holy,
00:29:21.99\00:29:24.56
let him be holy
still. And behold said Jesus,
00:29:24.57\00:29:29.15
I am coming quickly,
and My reward is with Me,
00:29:29.16\00:29:32.98
to give to every one
according to his work."
00:29:32.99\00:29:36.69
Jesus says in
unequivocal terms when I come,
00:29:37.19\00:29:40.74
that's it, no more
chances only two groups,
00:29:41.30\00:29:44.98
when I come and I get my church,
00:29:45.36\00:29:47.58
I will come in
glory, I will destroy the
00:29:47.59\00:29:50.03
antichrist and that will be it,
00:29:50.04\00:29:52.81
every decision will
have been made for all time.
00:29:53.12\00:29:55.24
The Bible does not
teach a second chance
00:29:55.25\00:29:58.09
after Jesus
comes for his church.
00:29:58.61\00:30:01.70
This is more
accurate if you want a
00:30:02.24\00:30:04.79
biblical theory,
a biblical scenario.
00:30:04.80\00:30:07.37
The antichrist appears
at some undetermined point
00:30:07.38\00:30:10.56
at least as far as
we see at this point,
00:30:10.57\00:30:12.65
the antichrist
appears, there is an unknown
00:30:12.66\00:30:14.99
period of time then
Jesus comes for His church
00:30:15.00\00:30:17.87
He destroys the antichrist and
00:30:17.88\00:30:19.97
all history comes to an end.
00:30:19.98\00:30:22.69
Let me share
something with you tonight,
00:30:23.04\00:30:24.64
I know, I know that
what we've been talking
00:30:25.11\00:30:28.23
about a two
phase coming of Christ,
00:30:28.24\00:30:29.96
where Jesus comes
secretly and quietly
00:30:29.97\00:30:32.14
for His church, and
then comes again in glory
00:30:32.15\00:30:34.62
another part of the
second coming is very popular.
00:30:34.63\00:30:37.62
I've read it in
thousands of books,
00:30:37.63\00:30:39.62
the only book I
haven't read it in yet
00:30:39.63\00:30:41.60
is the Bible itself.
Now many Bible scholars
00:30:42.06\00:30:45.76
are coming to
terms with this and
00:30:45.77\00:30:47.62
they're saying hey, I
think we made a Boo-boo,
00:30:47.63\00:30:50.04
it's not anywhere in the Bible.
00:30:50.50\00:30:52.78
A lot of scholars are
now changing their minds.
00:30:53.17\00:30:55.98
Charles Erdman, great
Godly scholar I believe
00:30:55.99\00:30:59.69
worked with
Zondervan, I could be mistaken
00:30:59.70\00:31:01.77
about that, a Godly
man, a great scholar,
00:31:01.78\00:31:04.39
a fantastic Christian
said this about the theory
00:31:04.40\00:31:07.45
of a secret
quite coming of Jesus.
00:31:07.46\00:31:09.28
He said the doctrine
seems to be founded upon
00:31:09.58\00:31:11.92
a false interpretation
in the King James Version
00:31:11.93\00:31:15.21
of the opening verse
of Second Thessalonians 2,
00:31:15.22\00:31:18.12
verse 1. That verse
talks about a moment
00:31:18.13\00:31:20.65
when Jesus comes
and gathers His church
00:31:20.66\00:31:22.88
to Himself. He
looked at it and He said,
00:31:22.89\00:31:24.87
we've been thinking
that, that is a quiet,
00:31:25.22\00:31:27.13
secret event but I just
can't find it in the Bible,
00:31:27.14\00:31:30.05
he changed his
mind. Henry Frost,
00:31:30.34\00:31:32.27
believed in this
theory all his life just
00:31:32.59\00:31:34.42
like I did. And he's wrote,
00:31:34.43\00:31:36.30
this theory might be
held as truth if there
00:31:36.31\00:31:38.36
were any scripture to
confirm it, but it may
00:31:38.37\00:31:40.60
not be held in
view of the fact that no
00:31:40.61\00:31:42.97
scripture even suggests
such a process of events.
00:31:42.98\00:31:47.71
He is right, I've seen
it in a little book that
00:31:48.16\00:31:50.49
I had in my
library, that was dog eared
00:31:50.50\00:31:52.74
and well read but
I haven't seen it in
00:31:52.75\00:31:56.02
God's word. I
haven't seen it in the Bible.
00:31:56.03\00:31:58.44
I'm just asking tonight
if you haven't understood
00:31:58.45\00:32:01.44
it this way just
check it against the Bible,
00:32:01.45\00:32:03.56
don't believe what I
say, don't believe what
00:32:03.57\00:32:05.46
any of these people
say go home you stick
00:32:05.47\00:32:07.69
with what God says,
out of the word of God
00:32:07.70\00:32:09.67
amen, amen.
That's the only approach.
00:32:09.68\00:32:11.81
Harold Ockenga,
another great scholar
00:32:11.82\00:32:13.91
man of God he said
listen I've looked at it,
00:32:13.92\00:32:16.05
no amount of explaining can make
00:32:16.38\00:32:18.01
First
Thessalonians chapter 4 a secret
00:32:18.02\00:32:20.39
rapture. He's
right, every grave is open,
00:32:20.40\00:32:23.08
there is a
fantastic trumpet blast,
00:32:23.35\00:32:25.22
there's the
voice of the archangel,
00:32:25.43\00:32:27.15
that is not quiet
and secret, that is the
00:32:27.16\00:32:29.48
greatest, nosiest,
biggest event in the history
00:32:29.49\00:32:32.48
of the universe and
the Bible says every eye
00:32:32.49\00:32:34.62
sees it, and every
ear hears it. People are
00:32:34.63\00:32:37.44
changing their minds.
So, the question is this,
00:32:37.45\00:32:39.72
if it really isn't
found in the Bible,
00:32:39.73\00:32:41.59
if you can go cover
to cover, you can look
00:32:41.60\00:32:43.84
at all 2500
references, you can put them all
00:32:43.85\00:32:46.70
together and study
them and it's not there
00:32:46.71\00:32:49.63
then where did
that theory come from?
00:32:50.69\00:32:52.37
Would you like to
know where it came from?
00:32:53.34\00:32:54.85
Yes. I was
gonna tell you anyway,
00:32:54.86\00:32:57.07
would you like to
know where that theory
00:32:58.99\00:33:00.23
came from? Yes.
Buckle your seat belts.
00:33:00.24\00:33:03.29
In the middle ages
there was a big dispute
00:33:04.78\00:33:07.61
going on in the
Christian church.
00:33:07.62\00:33:09.07
And this is the
history that we all share as
00:33:09.60\00:33:11.98
Christians. We've
got to look back folks as
00:33:11.99\00:33:14.43
Christians over the
last 2000 years and lay claim
00:33:14.44\00:33:17.02
to all the mistakes
and things we've done
00:33:17.03\00:33:18.74
as Christians over
the last 2000 years.
00:33:18.75\00:33:20.90
We didn't fool God
when we did bad things
00:33:20.91\00:33:23.23
we did bad things
and He knew about it,
00:33:23.24\00:33:24.81
and we may as well
admit to it in our history
00:33:24.82\00:33:26.91
when we did it. Now
there was the reformation
00:33:26.92\00:33:29.32
and the Counter-Reformation.
00:33:29.33\00:33:30.67
And here's what
happened, a lot of people
00:33:30.68\00:33:32.70
both on the
Protestant side of the equation,
00:33:32.98\00:33:35.09
and the Catholic
side of the equation and
00:33:35.10\00:33:36.70
by the way I just
have to say some thing,
00:33:36.71\00:33:39.18
I believe with all my
heart than an every Christian
00:33:39.19\00:33:42.17
church on the face
of this planet God has
00:33:42.18\00:33:44.62
good Christians. I
really believe that,
00:33:44.63\00:33:46.74
I also believe than
every Christian church
00:33:46.75\00:33:48.84
on the face of this
planet there are some real
00:33:48.85\00:33:50.60
stinkers, some people
that I just have trouble
00:33:50.61\00:33:53.03
believing will be
in heaven but you know
00:33:53.04\00:33:54.27
what I'll be a
surprise to people too when
00:33:54.28\00:33:56.10
I get there.
There was a big dispute,
00:33:56.11\00:33:59.10
and here was the
dispute. People in the
00:33:59.11\00:34:00.87
middle ages were
looking at the church
00:34:00.88\00:34:02.43
structure and they
started to admit some things
00:34:02.44\00:34:04.95
both Catholic and
Protestant scholars.
00:34:04.96\00:34:07.06
They said the church
structure here in the
00:34:07.40\00:34:09.52
middle ages we've
made some big mistakes.
00:34:09.53\00:34:11.56
The church is doing
some things that the
00:34:11.87\00:34:13.88
Bible never spoke
about. There is some
00:34:13.89\00:34:15.78
corruption in
our church structure,
00:34:15.79\00:34:17.43
there are a lot of
things going on and it divided
00:34:17.44\00:34:20.38
into several camps.
Some people said we need
00:34:20.39\00:34:22.74
to address this, we
need to talk about this
00:34:22.75\00:34:25.06
and they believed
that the problems in church
00:34:25.07\00:34:27.66
administration
were actually prophesied
00:34:27.67\00:34:29.56
in the Bible. But,
another camp said well
00:34:29.57\00:34:32.81
that's kind of
embarrassing why don't
00:34:32.82\00:34:34.49
we just cover up
the mistakes and get
00:34:34.50\00:34:35.87
on with life. Human
nature has a tough time
00:34:35.88\00:34:38.16
admitting mistakes
don't they? You know one
00:34:38.47\00:34:40.73
of the hardest things
in the world is to open
00:34:40.74\00:34:42.15
the Bible and see
your picture in that,
00:34:42.16\00:34:43.66
that's a hardest
thing. I lived in a dormitory
00:34:44.16\00:34:46.34
at the University of Victoria.
00:34:46.35\00:34:47.38
There was a guy
there who used to draw
00:34:47.39\00:34:48.63
cartoons of everybody
on campus; and they were
00:34:48.64\00:34:51.34
the funniest things I'd
ever seen in all my life.
00:34:51.35\00:34:53.63
I mean if somebody
was kind of annoying
00:34:54.00\00:34:56.29
he drew a picture
of an annoying guy.
00:34:56.30\00:34:57.89
And if somebody
was kind of messy,
00:34:57.90\00:34:59.89
he drew a
picture of a messy guy,
00:34:59.90\00:35:01.53
and I thought these were really,
00:35:01.54\00:35:02.81
really funny
cartoons and I came home
00:35:02.82\00:35:04.32
one day and he had
this picture of this guy
00:35:04.33\00:35:06.33
with a big mouth
that talk too much,
00:35:06.34\00:35:07.55
and I said that's
really funny who is it?
00:35:07.56\00:35:09.12
He said it's you. I
said right up to that point
00:35:09.13\00:35:12.87
you see, I thought
he was a greatest artist
00:35:12.88\00:35:14.60
in the world, I
was gravely mistaken.
00:35:14.61\00:35:16.29
Gravely mistaken. One
of the toughest things
00:35:17.42\00:35:19.51
in the world is to
see your own picture
00:35:19.52\00:35:20.93
in the pages of the
Bible. And so some Christians
00:35:20.94\00:35:23.22
said hey Bible
prophecy can't be talking about
00:35:23.23\00:35:25.84
us as Christians
and mistakes that we're
00:35:25.85\00:35:28.25
making, it can't be
talking about that all,
00:35:28.26\00:35:30.62
so why don't we
come up with an alternate
00:35:30.63\00:35:32.34
theory? I don't think
we have to do that folks.
00:35:32.35\00:35:34.61
I think when we open the Bible
00:35:34.62\00:35:35.77
and we see what
God is saying clearly,
00:35:36.05\00:35:37.43
we ought to
except just what God says
00:35:37.44\00:35:38.69
because He knows
what's best, amen, amen.
00:35:38.98\00:35:40.95
He knows what's
best. Here's what happened;
00:35:40.96\00:35:42.75
a couple of scholars
said, let's come up with
00:35:42.76\00:35:44.54
an alternate
theory for Bible prophecy.
00:35:44.55\00:35:46.33
One of them,
his name was Alcazar
00:35:46.34\00:35:48.02
and he looked at all
the prophecies of the Bible
00:35:48.03\00:35:49.94
and he said look,
why don't we reinterpret
00:35:49.95\00:35:52.90
this and we'll move
everything to the past
00:35:52.91\00:35:55.00
it's called preterism today.
00:35:55.01\00:35:56.68
He said everything in
the book of Revelation
00:35:57.02\00:35:58.96
most of it
anyway happened way back
00:35:59.26\00:36:01.45
in ancient history
under the Emperor Nero,
00:36:01.46\00:36:03.46
and Nero was the
antichrist, and it's all
00:36:03.74\00:36:06.13
long since past and
the book of Revelation
00:36:06.14\00:36:08.47
doesn't apply to
us at all anymore,
00:36:08.48\00:36:10.19
so it can't be
talking about mistakes that
00:36:10.20\00:36:12.81
Christians are
making today period.
00:36:12.82\00:36:14.57
Well that theory's
still popular in some circles,
00:36:15.27\00:36:17.37
there are some new
books in the market
00:36:17.38\00:36:18.66
just in the last
few months that are
00:36:18.67\00:36:20.04
teaching it, but it
was completely made up
00:36:20.05\00:36:22.06
in the middle ages to
avoid dealing with the
00:36:22.36\00:36:24.65
issues that
Christians were facing,
00:36:24.66\00:36:25.96
it was utterly and
completely invented
00:36:25.97\00:36:28.95
and made up. Now this
hasn't really taken off,
00:36:28.96\00:36:31.99
it's popular in some
circles, but there was
00:36:32.00\00:36:34.19
another theory.
There was another scholar
00:36:34.20\00:36:36.21
by the name of Ribera.
And Ribera did just the
00:36:36.22\00:36:39.16
opposite, he said look
all of this didn't happen
00:36:39.17\00:36:41.26
in the ancient past
under Nero, all of this hasn't
00:36:41.27\00:36:44.17
happened yet, it
happens at the very end of time
00:36:44.18\00:36:47.10
in the last seven
year burst of history.
00:36:47.11\00:36:48.96
He said the church is
gone, and then all of a
00:36:49.42\00:36:52.08
sudden Israel are
the chosen people again
00:36:52.09\00:36:53.91
and then the
antichrist comes. He made up
00:36:54.47\00:36:57.70
the theory so that
we didn't have to deal
00:36:57.71\00:37:00.13
with the issues. That
theory looked a little
00:37:00.14\00:37:03.07
bit like this. He
looked at everything
00:37:03.08\00:37:06.02
and he said look, the
Old Testament prophets,
00:37:06.03\00:37:08.37
which is this little
guy down on the left hand
00:37:08.38\00:37:10.36
side of the chart,
they couldn't see the
00:37:10.37\00:37:12.65
Christian church at
all. All they could see
00:37:12.66\00:37:15.83
was up to the cross,
the nation of Israel,
00:37:16.17\00:37:18.47
the Old
Testament, up to the cross
00:37:18.48\00:37:20.13
they couldn't see
the church at all.
00:37:20.55\00:37:22.12
And then the next
thing that they saw was
00:37:22.13\00:37:24.43
after the church
disappears with Jesus
00:37:24.44\00:37:26.33
and the nation of
Israel or God's chosen
00:37:26.34\00:37:28.44
people again,
there's a seven year period,
00:37:28.45\00:37:30.40
a tribulation with
the antichrist and then
00:37:30.41\00:37:32.65
Jesus comes in glory.
They could see this last
00:37:32.66\00:37:35.08
seven years, they
could see everything up
00:37:35.09\00:37:37.08
to the cross but
they couldn't see anything
00:37:37.09\00:37:39.10
in between,
that's what Ribera said.
00:37:39.11\00:37:41.26
And the reason he said
it was if they couldn't
00:37:41.69\00:37:43.86
see the church then
nothing in Bible prophecy
00:37:43.87\00:37:46.63
applies to the
mistakes that Christians are
00:37:47.00\00:37:49.56
making today. It
was completely invented
00:37:49.57\00:37:53.45
so that we didn't have
to deal with the issues
00:37:53.94\00:37:56.29
and it made a leap
into every church over
00:37:57.47\00:37:59.67
the centuries
that followed and today
00:37:59.68\00:38:01.43
it is the most
popular theory in all of
00:38:01.76\00:38:04.24
Christianity but it
is not found anywhere
00:38:04.25\00:38:07.08
in the word of God.
Now you might be asking
00:38:07.53\00:38:10.06
a question. Well
preacher okay so what,
00:38:10.07\00:38:12.21
does it matter,
who cares? Just another
00:38:12.79\00:38:15.92
theory. Does it
matter? I think it might.
00:38:16.05\00:38:18.93
I have a few
questions. If they're teaching
00:38:19.47\00:38:22.38
there might be another
chance after Jesus comes
00:38:22.39\00:38:24.56
what if there is
not? Would it be dangerous
00:38:25.10\00:38:28.24
to teach people that
there might be a second
00:38:28.25\00:38:30.35
chance? Would
they be tempted to wait
00:38:30.36\00:38:32.70
and see and then
change their minds
00:38:32.71\00:38:35.02
if the church disappears,
it's a dangerous thing
00:38:35.03\00:38:37.70
to teach people
and it's not fair,
00:38:37.71\00:38:39.44
if it's not true?
And what if the whole
00:38:39.45\00:38:42.39
world is gearing up to
expect the wrong thing?
00:38:42.40\00:38:44.37
Think about this very carefully.
00:38:44.94\00:38:46.50
The Bible talks about
overwhelming delusions,
00:38:46.51\00:38:49.31
spiritual
deceptions in the last day.
00:38:49.32\00:38:51.63
Is it possible
we could be wrong,
00:38:52.07\00:38:53.79
think about this
carefully, because when
00:38:54.28\00:38:56.26
Jesus came the first
time most of his people
00:38:56.27\00:38:58.68
were wrong about
it, they had the wrong
00:38:58.69\00:39:00.64
idea of why He was
coming and that's why
00:39:00.65\00:39:03.23
most of them
rejected Jesus. Now when Jesus
00:39:03.24\00:39:05.63
comes the second
time nobody is gonna
00:39:05.64\00:39:07.53
reject Jesus it is
final, that's the last
00:39:07.54\00:39:10.25
opportunity, but
what if it's wrong,
00:39:10.26\00:39:12.48
what if the whole
world is gearing up to expect
00:39:12.86\00:39:14.78
the wrong thing?
Folks, here's what it boils
00:39:14.79\00:39:17.14
down to in the
end, Jesus comes we read
00:39:17.15\00:39:20.01
the other night
with the sword coming out
00:39:20.02\00:39:21.89
of His mouth and
here's what I wanna challenge
00:39:21.90\00:39:24.16
you with tonight. The
Bible says in the book
00:39:24.17\00:39:26.12
of Hebrews chapter
4, it's says in the book
00:39:26.13\00:39:28.00
of Ephesians that the
sword is the word of God.
00:39:28.01\00:39:31.22
What is Jesus saying,
when He comes back there
00:39:31.79\00:39:34.03
is only thing that
matters, it's not what
00:39:34.04\00:39:36.39
this book said, or
what that book said,
00:39:36.40\00:39:38.09
it's not what
this preacher said,
00:39:38.10\00:39:39.56
or that preacher
said, including the preacher
00:39:39.57\00:39:41.68
that's standing here
tonight the only thing
00:39:41.69\00:39:43.82
that matters is what did the
00:39:43.83\00:39:46.34
word of God
say. Jesus challenge,
00:39:46.35\00:39:50.31
Jesus challenge to
you is to be ready.
00:39:50.63\00:39:52.89
There was a cute
little girl her name was Sara,
00:39:53.33\00:39:55.22
she heard in class
there was gonna be a contest
00:39:55.23\00:39:57.83
and teacher was gonna
give a prize to the tidiest
00:39:58.14\00:40:00.85
desk in he class,
oh boy she thought
00:40:00.86\00:40:03.30
I'm gonna win that
prize. And all the kids
00:40:03.31\00:40:06.07
laughed and they said
you can't win that prize,
00:40:06.08\00:40:08.15
you are the
dirtiest pig in this class,
00:40:08.16\00:40:10.31
your desk is always a mess,
00:40:10.32\00:40:11.79
there's crumpled up
paper shoved inside,
00:40:11.80\00:40:13.40
there's dirt smudges
on top and there's always
00:40:13.41\00:40:16.02
stuff on the floor.
You can't win the prize.
00:40:16.03\00:40:17.80
She said I can.
Because the day before
00:40:17.81\00:40:20.78
the teacher judges
I'm gonna clean my desk.
00:40:20.79\00:40:23.11
Well they said to her
what if the teacher judges
00:40:23.94\00:40:25.83
you one day earlier?
Well she said I clean
00:40:25.84\00:40:28.05
it up two days before.
Well what if the teacher
00:40:28.06\00:40:30.55
comes around and
looks three days before,
00:40:30.56\00:40:32.07
she said then I will
clean up four days before
00:40:32.08\00:40:33.86
and finally out
of exacerbation that
00:40:33.87\00:40:36.01
little girl said
do you know what?
00:40:36.02\00:40:37.26
I'm just gonna keep
it clean all the time.
00:40:38.16\00:40:39.96
Here's the
message of Jesus to you.
00:40:42.14\00:40:43.79
The Bible says God
gathers the whole world on
00:40:44.45\00:40:46.89
Armageddon the
mountain of Megiddo,
00:40:46.90\00:40:48.99
they're faced with a challenge.
00:40:49.00\00:40:49.97
If the Lord be God follow him.
00:40:50.43\00:40:52.96
He's not telling
people to wait and here is the
00:40:53.69\00:40:56.20
crux of the issue,
He is telling people to
00:40:56.21\00:40:58.38
make things right
with God right now,
00:40:58.39\00:41:01.61
keep it clean all the time.
00:41:01.62\00:41:04.33
Now it's time to get
out to lesson number 4 as we
00:41:05.11\00:41:08.01
explore this subject
just a little bit deeper
00:41:08.02\00:41:11.14
and we look at
what God's word says.
00:41:11.15\00:41:14.08
And if you are still
with us by satellite right
00:42:08.38\00:42:10.59
here in Southern
California my good friend
00:42:10.60\00:42:12.76
Dan Houghton is going
to come and lead us through
00:42:12.77\00:42:17.28
this lesson as my
dear wife Jean hands the
00:42:17.29\00:42:20.24
lessons out and
we get a chance to
00:42:20.25\00:42:21.59
just review what we've look at.
00:42:21.60\00:42:23.38
Thank you Pastor Shawn.
00:42:23.39\00:42:24.38
Well that was a quite
a ride tonight wasn't it?
00:42:32.53\00:42:34.43
Yes. Some things in
there that may have been
00:42:34.44\00:42:39.02
a little
startling, maybe you hadn't
00:42:39.03\00:42:41.79
seen before, hadn't considered.
00:42:41.80\00:42:43.55
But, when
history repeats itself,
00:42:44.53\00:42:46.12
it's time to take
out lesson number four,
00:42:48.05\00:42:49.59
if you have that with
you please take it out
00:42:50.35\00:42:51.87
and open it up. We
have a few questions
00:42:51.88\00:42:53.81
that we want to
go to in this lesson,
00:42:53.82\00:42:57.89
I find it fascinating
as I heard pastor Shawn
00:42:59.11\00:43:01.94
talking about this
just a moments ago that the
00:43:01.95\00:43:06.03
Jewish nation was
expecting the first
00:43:06.86\00:43:10.15
coming of Christ
weren't they not?
00:43:10.16\00:43:11.65
Weren't they
eagerly anticipating?
00:43:12.12\00:43:13.33
Every young Jewish girl
was hoping that she would
00:43:13.65\00:43:15.85
be able to be the
mother of Messiah.
00:43:15.86\00:43:18.09
But yet they
missed, the majority of
00:43:18.82\00:43:22.07
that nation,
missed the coming of the
00:43:22.08\00:43:23.48
messiah why was
that? They were expecting
00:43:23.49\00:43:26.91
the coming a little
different way then what
00:43:26.92\00:43:29.28
He actually
came. And as we start
00:43:29.29\00:43:31.46
out here in the
introduction of your
00:43:31.47\00:43:33.87
lesson you see
that's exactly what's been
00:43:33.88\00:43:35.65
talked about the
Jewish people missed Jesus
00:43:35.66\00:43:38.95
first coming because
they had an expectation that
00:43:38.96\00:43:41.07
was different.
Confusing prophecies
00:43:41.08\00:43:43.34
of the first and second coming,
00:43:43.35\00:43:44.56
many in John the
Baptist's day believed that the
00:43:45.76\00:43:48.43
Messiah would
overthrow the Roman government
00:43:48.44\00:43:50.63
and establish a worldly kingdom.
00:43:50.64\00:43:51.91
Did they want that to happen?
00:43:52.18\00:43:53.59
They did. They believed
it so that they actually
00:43:54.53\00:43:57.10
imposed that
upon what was actually
00:43:57.11\00:43:59.05
going to happen.
This mistake was not
00:43:59.06\00:44:01.25
limited to
unbelievers, even some of Jesus'
00:44:01.26\00:44:04.96
most devoted followers made it.
00:44:04.97\00:44:07.33
People like, okay
Matthew chapter 11
00:44:07.34\00:44:11.50
and verse 23. "Now
when John had heard
00:44:11.51\00:44:14.17
in the prison
the works of Christ,
00:44:14.18\00:44:15.77
he sent two of his disciples,
00:44:16.34\00:44:18.09
And said unto
Him, Art thou He that
00:44:18.60\00:44:20.92
should come, or should we
00:44:20.93\00:44:22.14
look for another?
"Now this is man that
00:44:22.15\00:44:25.16
had baptized
Jesus. But he is asking
00:44:25.17\00:44:28.11
the question, he
had that little question
00:44:28.12\00:44:29.35
that came in his
mind. So, is it surprising
00:44:29.36\00:44:32.25
that there could be
some misunderstanding or even
00:44:32.26\00:44:34.33
confusion down here
in our day when we are
00:44:34.34\00:44:36.69
looking at the
second coming of Christ?
00:44:36.70\00:44:39.92
Okay, this
mistake was not limited
00:44:39.93\00:44:42.01
to unbelievers,
even some of Jesus'
00:44:42.02\00:44:44.16
most devoted
followers made it people like
00:44:44.17\00:44:47.39
John the
Baptist, the forerunner of
00:44:47.40\00:44:49.02
Christ himself made
this mistake while he was
00:44:49.03\00:44:51.88
in prison. So, if
you are watching this
00:44:51.89\00:44:55.11
and you have
believed, perhaps those of you
00:44:55.12\00:44:58.52
here in our studio
audience if you have
00:44:58.53\00:45:00.01
believed that maybe
there was a two part
00:45:00.02\00:45:01.61
coming of
Christ. You know you just
00:45:01.62\00:45:05.13
like John the Baptist
may have been mistaken,
00:45:05.20\00:45:06.96
so you're in good
company, but the Bible has
00:45:06.97\00:45:09.08
revealed the truth
as Shawn has unfolded
00:45:09.09\00:45:11.60
it tonight. Okay.
The concept of the
00:45:11.61\00:45:14.69
two-phase coming of
Christ finds its roots in
00:45:14.70\00:45:18.82
the 16th century
movement known as the
00:45:18.83\00:45:22.03
Counter-Reformation.
Counter-Reformation,
00:45:23.66\00:45:27.25
an attempt to put
down the success of the
00:45:27.69\00:45:31.99
reformation that
was going on back in the
00:45:32.00\00:45:34.52
15th and 16th century. Okay.
00:45:34.53\00:45:36.94
Number 3 in your lesson, okay,
00:45:37.22\00:45:39.23
One popular theory
of end-time events has
00:45:39.48\00:45:43.86
Jesus returning for His church,
00:45:43.87\00:45:45.76
and then the antichrist appears.
00:45:45.77\00:45:49.41
When did the Apostle
Paul expect the antichrist
00:45:49.91\00:45:53.21
to appear? Now we're gonna look
00:45:53.22\00:45:54.26
that text up it's
in Second Thessalonians
00:45:54.27\00:45:57.03
chapter 2 verses 3 and 4.
00:45:57.04\00:45:58.79
Let no man what?
Deceive, deceive you by
00:45:59.49\00:46:03.05
any means, for that day
00:46:03.06\00:46:05.09
shall not come,
except there come
00:46:05.10\00:46:07.94
a falling away
first, and that man of sin
00:46:07.95\00:46:11.27
be revealed, the
son of perdition.
00:46:11.28\00:46:13.28
So, one popular
theory of end time events has
00:46:14.00\00:46:16.57
His returning for
His church and then the
00:46:16.58\00:46:18.52
antichrist appears,
when did the Apostle Paul
00:46:18.53\00:46:21.42
expect the antichrist to appear?
00:46:21.43\00:46:23.03
Before Christ returns
for his church not after,
00:46:24.88\00:46:27.58
before Christ
returns for his church.
00:46:28.17\00:46:30.46
Now second part of
that question right there
00:46:30.47\00:46:34.47
this is number 4.
When would the antichrist
00:46:34.48\00:46:38.66
be destroyed?
Remember what Pastor Shawn
00:46:38.67\00:46:41.66
said a few
moments ago, let's read
00:46:41.67\00:46:42.78
it in scripture,
Second Thessalonians 2
00:46:42.79\00:46:44.73
and verse 8, and then shall that
00:46:44.74\00:46:46.65
Wicked be
revealed, whom the Lord shall
00:46:46.66\00:46:48.50
consume with the
spirit of his mouth,
00:46:48.51\00:46:51.18
and shall destroy
with the brightness of
00:46:51.77\00:46:54.79
his coming. So,
when is the antichrist
00:46:54.80\00:46:58.17
to be destroyed? By the
glory of Christ's return.
00:46:58.18\00:47:02.44
Isn't that clear from scripture?
00:47:04.25\00:47:05.65
Isn't that clear?
Can you say amen? Amen.
00:47:05.66\00:47:09.84
Okay now we wanna go
the original Greek word
00:47:10.70\00:47:14.82
for Christ's appearing
that was used in Second
00:47:14.83\00:47:17.22
Thessalonians 2
in verse 8, Parousia.
00:47:17.23\00:47:21.09
I believe I
pronounced that right.
00:47:21.10\00:47:22.45
I'm not the Greek
scholar, but Parousia.
00:47:22.46\00:47:24.91
It refers to the
grand entrance of a King,
00:47:24.92\00:47:27.39
a grand entrance a
King makes when he makes
00:47:28.13\00:47:30.62
an appearance. His
fist coming was quietly
00:47:30.63\00:47:34.31
as a babe in Bethlehem.
We all know the story.
00:47:34.32\00:47:37.67
Some of those early
Jewish scholars were seeing
00:47:38.18\00:47:41.60
through to the second
coming and wanting to see
00:47:41.61\00:47:43.48
him and come as a King
right away to free them
00:47:43.49\00:47:45.60
from Roman bondage
but no He came as a babe
00:47:45.61\00:47:48.54
first but the
second time He comes,
00:47:48.55\00:47:49.91
He comes with a
great appearance,
00:47:49.92\00:47:53.40
Parousia He makes an
entrance if you will.
00:47:53.85\00:47:56.90
Okay there's another place in
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First Thessalonians
chapter 4 and verse 15,
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that describes Christ
coming for His church.
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The same word
Parousia, Parousia. Okay.
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Now the question.
If the antichrist is
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destroyed at the
Parousia and the church is
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caught up to meet
Jesus at the Parousia,
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what does this tell
us about the timing of
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these two events? Okay.
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They come at the same time,
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same time okay.
They are the same event
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Christ returns for His
church at the same time
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that the
antichrist is destroyed.
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Now can understand
why the antichrist might
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want people to think
something different than
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what's gonna
happen? Because this does
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not spelled good
news. Is that right?
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That's the
distraction of coming of Christ.
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There is no second
chance according to what we've
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learned tonight.
Now Second Corinthians
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chapter 11 and verse 14,
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what warning are we given?
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Does the devil
only work outside of
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church circles? He does not,
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he is very
subtle. Second Corinthians
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chapter 11 and
verse 14. And no marvel;
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for Satan himself
is transformed into
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an angel of
light. Do you think that
00:49:16.64\00:49:20.00
Satan ever reads the Bible?
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Do you think He is
a scholar and knows
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what it is? Do you think he is
00:49:23.86\00:49:25.06
attempting to defeat
it? He sure is and he
00:49:25.07\00:49:28.18
is gonna use every
method possible including
00:49:28.19\00:49:31.52
trying to deceive
even the very elect.
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Now what warning are we given?
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Does the devil
only work outside of the
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church circles? No,
he disguises himself,
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you wanna right this
down, he disguises himself
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as an angel of light.
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I hear those pens going
on the paper that's good.
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Okay, Is it possible
that the devil would try
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to pull off a large
spiritual deception in
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the last days?
Do you think that's
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very possible?
Yes. You better it is.
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How important then my friends,
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is the truth about
this? Do you think a lot of
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people at the first
coming of Jesus intentionally
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missed His first
coming? Lot of the common people
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that were throughout Judea.
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There were some of
the leaders who may have
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missed it intentionally,
but a lot of the common
00:50:26.33\00:50:28.81
people were eagerly
looking forward to it.
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Some were deceived. In
our day there are gonna
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be people who are
deceived only because they do
00:50:35.99\00:50:39.18
not know what is in this book.
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And we have a
privilege and those of you who
00:50:41.92\00:50:43.56
maybe joining us, who
are joining us tonight
00:50:43.57\00:50:46.17
by satellite you have
an opportunity tonight
00:50:46.18\00:50:50.05
to make a decision and
a choice about which side
00:50:50.06\00:50:53.19
of this conflict,
which side of this
00:50:53.20\00:50:54.90
issue you're going to be on.
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Is it possible that
he would try to pull off
00:50:58.26\00:50:59.84
a large spiritual deception?
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Second Thessalonians
chapter 2 and verse 9,
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even him, whose coming is
00:51:04.28\00:51:06.05
after the working of
Satan, with all power and
00:51:06.06\00:51:09.57
signs and lying
wonders. Now you know we tend
00:51:09.58\00:51:14.59
to get excited, we hear about a
00:51:14.60\00:51:16.89
miracle or some
unusual occurrence especially
00:51:16.90\00:51:20.17
around spiritual
things. But, can we trust,
00:51:20.18\00:51:24.93
can we trust signs
and miraculous things
00:51:24.94\00:51:28.28
that are unusual
to us. Not at all.
00:51:28.29\00:51:32.38
We have to regard
the scriptures as the
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ultimate
authority. This is what we
00:51:35.38\00:51:38.35
have to make our,
drive our stake on to
00:51:38.36\00:51:40.46
say yes I believe
this not the books that you
00:51:40.47\00:51:43.21
are gonna find
at the book store.
00:51:43.22\00:51:44.88
Not the ideas
of some preacher as
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Shawn was talking,
and Pastor Shawn was
00:51:47.97\00:51:49.63
even saying check him
out, He want you go into
00:51:49.64\00:51:52.52
the word of God and
check him out to see if
00:51:52.53\00:51:54.39
what He has said is
true. It's based upon what
00:51:54.40\00:51:57.68
the word of God
says, so yes there
00:51:57.69\00:51:59.19
are going to be. Write this down
00:51:59.20\00:52:00.43
in your lesson. Is
it possible that He
00:52:00.44\00:52:02.73
would try to pull off a
large spiritual deception
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in the last
days? How important is
00:52:05.80\00:52:07.55
the truth? Okay,
in the last days,
00:52:07.56\00:52:10.10
the devil will
pull out all the stops.
00:52:10.11\00:52:12.26
I wrote down in
mine that devil pulls out
00:52:12.27\00:52:14.70
all the stops.
He is going to try
00:52:14.71\00:52:17.20
to deceive the whole world.
00:52:17.21\00:52:18.74
And the truths
of the Bible will be
00:52:19.40\00:52:20.84
our only
safeguard, our only defense,
00:52:20.85\00:52:23.38
knowing what's between
the covers of this book.
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In Revelation
chapter 22 verses 11 and 12,
00:52:29.76\00:52:33.42
what possible reason
could the devil want for
00:52:35.55\00:52:37.88
misleading people
about the nature of
00:52:37.89\00:52:39.65
Christ's return?
What would be his
00:52:39.66\00:52:41.21
motivation
anyway, why would he be
00:52:41.22\00:52:43.89
wanting to do
this? He that is unjust,
00:52:43.90\00:52:47.81
let him be unjust
still: and he which is filthy,
00:52:47.82\00:52:51.67
let him be filthy
still. And he that
00:52:51.68\00:52:53.73
is righteous, let him be
00:52:53.74\00:52:54.77
righteous still,
and he that is holy,
00:52:54.78\00:52:56.31
let him be holy still.
00:52:56.32\00:52:57.79
What possible
reason could the devil want
00:52:59.89\00:53:01.51
for misleading people about the
00:53:01.52\00:53:02.78
nature of Christ's return?
00:53:02.79\00:53:03.79
If he can create a laid
back attitude with regard
00:53:04.65\00:53:06.86
to spiritual matters,
there's a lot of people
00:53:06.87\00:53:10.03
that will put off
their decision with a
00:53:10.04\00:53:11.76
"let's wait and see" attitude.
00:53:11.77\00:53:13.98
They can keep us wondering,
00:53:13.99\00:53:15.61
they can keep us in
that value of decision
00:53:16.09\00:53:17.95
well maybe it
is, maybe it isn't.
00:53:17.96\00:53:19.24
And we haven't made
that firm solid commitment
00:53:20.41\00:53:23.70
to God then we are in
one of those groups that
00:53:24.38\00:53:27.88
maybe unjust or filthy
instead of that once that
00:53:27.89\00:53:30.61
are true and loyal
to God. Okay in the end,
00:53:30.62\00:53:36.45
what will be the
only thing that matters on
00:53:37.85\00:53:39.44
this subject? When it's all
00:53:39.45\00:53:41.02
said and done
when everything is laid
00:53:41.03\00:53:42.93
out on the table,
all the issues that they
00:53:42.94\00:53:45.21
are clearly to be
seen. What's the only thing
00:53:45.22\00:53:47.92
that matters? Matthew chapter 4
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and verse 4, "Man does not live
00:53:50.40\00:53:53.07
by bread alone,
but by every word that
00:53:53.08\00:53:55.64
proceeds from the mouth of God."
00:53:55.65\00:53:58.14
You know we are,
there are every kind
00:53:58.71\00:54:01.64
of temptation that
try to draw us off into
00:54:01.65\00:54:03.87
some other areas,
other things that we
00:54:03.88\00:54:05.54
would think might be
important but the holy
00:54:05.55\00:54:07.78
word of God, you know some times
00:54:07.79\00:54:08.94
I find myself not
taking the time that I need
00:54:08.95\00:54:13.97
to with this book.
And when I do I find it
00:54:13.98\00:54:17.99
to be so
rewarding. These passages like
00:54:18.00\00:54:20.99
Pastor Shawn brought
out tonight just reached
00:54:21.00\00:54:23.25
in and touched my
heart. In the end,
00:54:23.26\00:54:24.82
the only thing that
matters is that man does
00:54:24.83\00:54:27.14
not live by bread
alone. Now what would you
00:54:27.15\00:54:29.96
like to base
your information on?
00:54:29.97\00:54:32.48
When you are making
a decision when it's
00:54:32.49\00:54:33.80
all laid out on the
table, what do you wanna
00:54:33.81\00:54:35.96
make your
decision? On God's word,
00:54:35.97\00:54:38.48
we want to have
our foundation sure.
00:54:39.02\00:54:42.72
I'm struck today by
the fact that so many
00:54:43.90\00:54:47.63
people
Christians, good godly people
00:54:47.64\00:54:50.40
are expecting something
that is not in this word.
00:54:51.69\00:54:54.70
That's why I'm so
excited to be a part
00:54:55.15\00:54:56.51
of this seminar,
the appearing because it
00:54:56.52\00:54:59.62
casts the light of
truth on this topic.
00:54:59.63\00:55:03.96
And it's my hope and
prayer that it makes a
00:55:04.69\00:55:07.03
real difference in our
life and that each one of
00:55:07.04\00:55:09.59
you will choose to
base your information
00:55:09.60\00:55:12.02
on God's word. Let's pray,
00:55:12.03\00:55:14.37
Holy Father in heaven
we just pause thanking you
00:55:16.17\00:55:19.61
for revealing truth
to us tonight through
00:55:19.62\00:55:23.74
your scriptures.
I know that these
00:55:23.75\00:55:26.05
thoughts may challenge
some of the closely held
00:55:26.06\00:55:29.73
ideas that some
have, I pray that your
00:55:29.74\00:55:33.86
Holy Spirit will open
each one of our minds to
00:55:33.87\00:55:37.77
reveal to us
your voice speaking.
00:55:37.78\00:55:40.42
And Lord I pray that
we will rest completely on
00:55:41.20\00:55:45.00
your holy word, in
Jesus name I pray, amen, amen.
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