Hello! I'm Kathy Matthews and this is "Thinking about Home" 00:00:31.00\00:00:35.50 I'm glad you've joined us and our guest 00:00:35.53\00:00:36.50 today that we're going to be discussing more about prayer 00:00:36.51\00:00:41.00 with is Richard O'Ffill and he's from the Florida Conference of 00:00:41.10\00:00:45.00 the Seventh-Day Adventists and Hal Gates from the 00:00:45.10\00:00:47.50 Washington Conference of the Seventh-Day Adventists. 00:00:47.60\00:00:49.10 And we've just enjoyed going back and forth at each other 00:00:49.40\00:00:52.20 about prayer and it's become spicy at times and I think 00:00:52.23\00:00:56.20 it probably could continue to be that way. 00:00:56.23\00:00:58.00 When we prepare for our program, we really get into it, don't we? 00:00:58.20\00:01:02.65 When the cameras go on, we just keep carrying on and sometimes 00:01:02.68\00:01:06.16 we hope that we even remember what we've said and were 00:01:06.20\00:01:09.65 really discussing this. 00:01:09.68\00:01:11.11 Thinking about home should be thinking about prayer. 00:01:11.15\00:01:15.15 Yes. 00:01:15.18\00:01:16.15 Because I'm convinced that if the home needs two things, 00:01:16.16\00:01:20.01 if the home needs one thing, yeah two, 00:01:20.04\00:01:22.41 it will be prayer and the Scripture. 00:01:22.45\00:01:27.96 And the home of the 21st century is not a home of 00:01:28.00\00:01:31.60 prayer and of Scripture. 00:01:31.63\00:01:34.06 It's more than at risk. 00:01:34.10\00:01:36.60 Its chances of survival are greatly reduced. 00:01:36.70\00:01:42.06 And so we're doing a series entitled 00:01:42.10\00:01:44.61 "The Priority of Prayer" and we're talking about prayer. 00:01:44.64\00:01:48.80 We're not trying to make it difficult, we're not trying to 00:01:48.90\00:01:51.40 say "If you don't remember all these points, then 00:01:51.50\00:01:53.80 God won't hear your prayers. " 00:01:53.83\00:01:55.30 No, no, no! 00:01:55.33\00:01:56.30 We're trying to make it clear, not that God has to 00:01:56.31\00:02:00.30 hear from us, 00:02:00.33\00:02:02.30 but we definitely need to hear from Him. 00:02:02.50\00:02:05.50 In other words, He sees everything that goes on, 00:02:05.60\00:02:09.20 but the problem is we don't see Him and 00:02:09.23\00:02:11.66 I think that prayer in a way opens our spiritual eyes 00:02:11.70\00:02:16.16 and in this program if we could entitle this program, it would 00:02:16.20\00:02:20.70 be putting words into the mouth of God respectfully. 00:02:20.73\00:02:24.70 And it would be "Give me another option. " 00:02:24.73\00:02:27.70 As if it is God saying that? 00:02:27.73\00:02:29.16 Because sometimes I think when we come to God in prayer, 00:02:29.20\00:02:32.20 its as if we lock it up on Him 00:02:32.23\00:02:33.50 we say: This is really what I want You to do, 00:02:33.60\00:02:36.20 and this is the way I want You to do it. 00:02:36.23\00:02:38.70 And I'm hoping You could be done... 00:02:38.73\00:02:42.21 by the time my prayer's over. 00:02:42.24\00:02:43.77 You know, sometimes I think, Kathy, we treat God 00:02:43.81\00:02:47.81 like we don't even treat an auto mechanic. 00:02:47.84\00:02:50.77 In other words if you got trouble with your car, you don't 00:02:50.81\00:02:54.31 go, at least I don't go to another mechanic. 00:02:54.34\00:02:56.81 Are you an auto mechanic? 00:02:56.91\00:02:59.31 No. But I don't go to them either, a ball pin hammer and 00:02:59.34\00:03:02.20 a pair of pliers is what I use. 00:03:02.23\00:03:04.21 But the fact is I can tell when 00:03:05.00\00:03:09.50 my car's not working. 00:03:09.53\00:03:10.50 But I really know why it's not working and 00:03:10.51\00:03:13.90 definitely I don't know what to do about it 00:03:13.93\00:03:17.30 and I don't have the resources. 00:03:17.33\00:03:19.30 Now, let's use another illustration, maybe this 00:03:19.40\00:03:21.56 car thing isn't the way to go, Kathy, but going to the doctor. 00:03:21.59\00:03:26.41 What are you doing when going to the doctor? 00:03:26.45\00:03:28.90 Doc, I'm not feeling good. 00:03:29.00\00:03:31.00 Well, what is it? 00:03:31.03\00:03:32.46 Well, this is the way it is. 00:03:32.50\00:03:34.76 And then we ask him what to do about it. 00:03:34.80\00:03:37.10 From the doctor we want a correct diagnosis 00:03:37.20\00:03:39.70 and a correct prescription. 00:03:39.80\00:03:41.76 But I thought to myself: "In prayer, oh, no, no!" 00:03:41.80\00:03:44.80 We go to the God of the Universe and we say, 00:03:44.83\00:03:47.76 "God, this is what's wrong with me and this is what 00:03:47.80\00:03:50.30 You need to do about it. " 00:03:50.40\00:03:52.60 I think that is so gross. 00:03:52.80\00:03:55.80 Is that the word? 00:03:55.83\00:03:57.80 We do a self-diagnosis, prescribe our own remedy 00:03:59.00\00:04:04.00 and then we wonder why it doesn't work, 00:04:04.10\00:04:07.70 we wonder why when we ask God to do it... 00:04:07.80\00:04:10.30 I think when we talk about the option and getting 00:04:10.60\00:04:15.60 another option, I think about what is going on 00:04:15.70\00:04:19.70 in our world society with terror, 00:04:19.80\00:04:22.30 What's the option that we have? 00:04:22.33\00:04:24.80 A second option to terror? 00:04:24.83\00:04:26.76 The peace of God that passes all understanding, 00:04:26.80\00:04:29.90 that keep our hearts and minds, through Christ Jesus. 00:04:30.00\00:04:33.16 You know, terror only works when fear is in our heart. 00:04:33.20\00:04:36.80 Perfect love casts out fear. 00:04:36.83\00:04:40.10 So I think in an option, an option to allow what's going on 00:04:40.20\00:04:45.80 in the world to just encapsulate this in this prison house 00:04:45.90\00:04:48.90 of fear, to set us free to recognize and realize that God, 00:04:49.00\00:04:54.50 whether we think it or not, by what we see, 00:04:54.60\00:04:57.60 is in control. 00:04:57.70\00:04:59.90 And if we can turn ourselves to God and say, 00:05:00.00\00:05:03.40 "I need an option to this life I'm living. " 00:05:03.50\00:05:07.30 "I need an option to the dysfunctions that I have, 00:05:07.40\00:05:10.70 "I need an option to the terror that I sense when I go to get 00:05:10.80\00:05:15.60 on an airplane and they run this thing all over me and take 00:05:15.63\00:05:18.60 my shoes off me and treat me like some sort of 00:05:18.63\00:05:21.60 second-class person or a terrorist. 00:05:21.63\00:05:23.61 I need an option to those things 00:05:23.65\00:05:25.56 Give me that peace of God that passes all understanding 00:05:25.60\00:05:29.40 and keep my heart, my mind through Christ Jesus. 00:05:29.43\00:05:31.70 So I think that option is one that really hits home to me in 00:05:31.85\00:05:36.05 prayer and those are the options, that I look for. 00:05:36.10\00:05:39.10 I think he's spinning it back in another way, because 00:05:39.20\00:05:42.20 I think where I was coming from was that we'll go up to God 00:05:42.30\00:05:47.90 and tell Him what to do and we want it done in a certain way, 00:05:48.00\00:05:51.90 and what I was trying to say was, that God would say 00:05:52.00\00:05:54.00 "Don't you have any other ideas, aren't there some 00:05:54.10\00:05:57.40 other ways of doing what you want to have done? 00:05:57.50\00:05:59.90 I may have understood that! 00:05:59.93\00:06:02.50 He is fun because you've rolled it back, 00:06:02.65\00:06:07.65 you roll it to him and he roles it back to you! 00:06:07.70\00:06:10.70 I have not seen very many to do that to you Dick. 00:06:10.73\00:06:14.30 It just got me, I'm traumatized... 00:06:14.33\00:06:16.60 Because we can take words and I think this is important. 00:06:20.00\00:06:24.00 We were saying this between programs. 00:06:24.10\00:06:26.60 You know, different words mean different things 00:06:26.70\00:06:29.50 to different people. 00:06:29.53\00:06:30.50 When you and I stand up as preachers and we say it, 00:06:30.55\00:06:33.85 people can hear the very words that we're saying 00:06:33.88\00:06:37.15 and they're putting other meanings. 00:06:37.18\00:06:39.75 I'm coming from here and they went there, but 00:06:39.80\00:06:43.80 if it was edifying, it was to the glory of God, so be it. 00:06:43.90\00:06:47.30 I think that's the right brain, left brain thing that 00:06:47.33\00:06:50.70 we talked about. 00:06:50.73\00:06:51.80 And I think in prayer sometimes, you know, what is the option? 00:06:52.00\00:06:58.50 What other options do we have? 00:06:58.53\00:07:00.86 I don't necessarily go to God and say, 00:07:00.90\00:07:04.40 "Look, I'm looking for You to give me two options 00:07:04.50\00:07:08.50 and the answer. " 00:07:08.53\00:07:09.96 I just go to God and say, 00:07:10.00\00:07:12.00 "Look, I want an option to this that's in the world, 00:07:12.10\00:07:14.50 that's overwhelming me and 00:07:14.60\00:07:16.25 give me an option to that. 00:07:16.28\00:07:17.74 Your peace is that option. " 00:07:17.77\00:07:19.20 But the option you're talking about 00:07:19.50\00:07:22.46 is something that I've gone through too. 00:07:22.50\00:07:24.80 Don't you go to God, I mean, aren't you like 00:07:24.90\00:07:27.90 the rest of us, humans? I can't believe it. 00:07:27.93\00:07:30.40 Don't you go to God and tell Him what you want Him to do? 00:07:30.50\00:07:34.50 I mean, don't you do that? 00:07:34.53\00:07:36.50 I seldom do Dick, I seldom tell God what I want Him to do, 00:07:36.60\00:07:41.20 because I've found out that 00:07:41.23\00:07:44.50 God really knows what's the best for me and I don't. 00:07:44.60\00:07:48.00 Because I spent 43 years, totally dysfunctional. 00:07:48.03\00:07:51.40 I had success in business, I was a successful city 00:07:51.50\00:07:56.18 attorney, and I was all of these kinds of things 00:07:56.21\00:07:57.70 and they wanted me to run for judge and 00:07:57.73\00:08:00.00 I can't imagine me being a judge that would be like... 00:08:00.10\00:08:03.10 Having a stewed judge. 00:08:03.13\00:08:05.60 That would be like having a 3 year old brain surgeon 00:08:05.63\00:08:09.30 or something, I mean it's just not in the cards... 00:08:09.33\00:08:12.70 but what I learned is: if I just can let go of myself 00:08:12.90\00:08:18.50 and surrender it to God, present myself as a living sacrifice 00:08:18.60\00:08:25.40 to God. I'm not much to God, but I am all I got. 00:08:25.50\00:08:29.30 The key is learning to let go of yourself or dying to self. 00:08:29.50\00:08:36.30 And that is because we're not dying to self that 00:08:36.40\00:08:42.00 God has to ask the question, Is there another option? 00:08:42.10\00:08:47.90 I think that his background is definitely different from ours. 00:08:48.00\00:08:52.50 I think he has, excuse my ways, I think he has an innocence.? 00:08:57.00\00:09:01.29 A child like approach, because here he was in the pit of sin.. 00:09:01.33\00:09:05.59 My father was a minister. 00:09:05.63\00:09:07.50 In other words, spiritual things to me are a little 00:09:07.90\00:09:11.90 more sophisticated. 00:09:12.00\00:09:14.50 In other words, maybe you've got started right and 00:09:14.60\00:09:17.49 some of us who haven't been through that. 00:09:20.70\00:09:21.96 And I relate to him, I didn't go through the things that you went 00:09:22.00\00:09:25.50 through, I didn't do the same kind of things, 00:09:25.60\00:09:27.10 but I relate to that. 00:09:27.13\00:09:28.10 I don't know any better. 00:09:28.20\00:09:31.46 I don't know what You want me to do. 00:09:31.50\00:09:33.00 Help me to know what You want me to do. 00:09:33.03\00:09:34.46 But at the same time I can understand because 00:09:34.50\00:09:37.50 my heart is wicked above all kinds of things and 00:09:37.60\00:09:41.60 I know there're times that we spin off from selfish motives 00:09:41.80\00:09:46.60 and the Lord is trying to teach us something else. 00:09:46.63\00:09:50.40 I think of a time when I had my first call, when 00:09:50.50\00:09:56.00 I was going through ninth quarter and that's where 00:09:56.03\00:09:58.46 all the pastors were coming out of the Seminary and 00:09:58.50\00:10:01.86 I didn't go to the Seminary, so I came out of my 00:10:01.90\00:10:04.22 little taskforce position and and all these guys are so 00:10:04.25\00:10:08.28 excited because they are going to their new callings 00:10:08.31\00:10:11.84 and I'm going back to my little old taskforce and 00:10:11.90\00:10:15.95 I'm happy with that. Pretty soon I got in that spirit 00:10:15.98\00:10:19.51 well Lord I want to go somewhere, I've been through 00:10:19.54\00:10:22.05 this and so I was praying to the "Lord, I just want you to 00:10:22.09\00:10:26.76 and they called me to do a Sabbath out in a little church, 00:10:26.79\00:10:31.43 out on the water and there was a perfect place there, 00:10:31.46\00:10:33.78 and I had a boat, I lived on a boat 00:10:33.81\00:10:35.15 and there was a perfect place to moor my boat, 00:10:35.18\00:10:37.53 it was just perfect, so I go back Lord 00:10:37.56\00:10:39.97 Open that up for me! Open that up for me! 00:10:40.00\00:10:42.46 And it was a church that was opened and an elder came to me 00:10:42.50\00:10:46.33 and said to me, "We want you as our pastor!" 00:10:46.36\00:10:50.50 Oh this must be the Lord's will So I pray and prayed and prayed. 00:10:50.60\00:10:55.60 Finally, one Sunday morning I'm in prayer and 00:10:55.63\00:10:58.86 my wife said, "I don't want to hear any more of this!" 00:10:58.90\00:11:02.50 "Let God do what God wants to do but I'm going to but I want Him 00:11:02.53\00:11:05.41 to do... so I am pressing... 00:11:05.44\00:11:07.76 I don't know if you have ever had that kind of thing 00:11:07.80\00:11:09.36 in a Pastor but boy I was really pressing the Lord 00:11:09.39\00:11:11.96 and all of a sudden, in my mind was this big neon sign 00:11:14.00\00:11:18.50 that said West Seattle. 00:11:18.60\00:11:20.28 Now, I never ever thought of West Seattle 00:11:20.31\00:11:23.88 It was the furthest thing from my mind. 00:11:23.92\00:11:27.46 Who wants to go to a big city, when you can go to a beautiful 00:11:27.50\00:11:30.50 little place with a moorage out in the water, 00:11:30.53\00:11:32.92 you live on a boat, there is no place to put 00:11:32.96\00:11:35.12 a boat in Seattle, oh well, at any rate 00:11:35.16\00:11:37.29 What happened is two days later, the committee meets 00:11:39.00\00:11:42.68 and one of the committee members comes up 00:11:42.72\00:11:46.50 and says, "You've got a call!" 00:11:46.53\00:11:47.69 Oh boy "Poulsbo! Poulsbo!" 00:11:47.72\00:11:50.33 and I said where? 00:11:50.36\00:11:53.37 and he said "I can't tell you I said is it West Seattle?" 00:11:53.40\00:11:57.19 And he looked at me and his face got white, and so then the 00:11:58.20\00:12:01.20 president calls me up the next day on the phone and 00:12:01.23\00:12:04.15 he said, you have a call and I want you to think about it and 00:12:04.18\00:12:07.88 I'm going to call you to West Seattle. " 00:12:07.91\00:12:09.76 The option was that God gave me the call where 00:12:09.80\00:12:16.31 He wanted me to go. 00:12:16.35\00:12:17.32 The interesting part about that is that my second call 00:12:17.33\00:12:19.87 was to Poulsbo. 00:12:21.31\00:12:22.28 You know as I listen to him talk, again this goes back to 00:12:22.29\00:12:27.74 the graciousness of God, where 00:12:28.89\00:12:29.86 I think He deals with us from where we come from. 00:12:29.87\00:12:31.70 I do too. 00:12:31.73\00:12:33.04 Here I am, my dad is a minister, 00:12:33.07\00:12:35.09 God has led in my life, of that there is no doubt but I can't 00:12:35.12\00:12:41.29 come at it with these mystical little.. I can't tell you those. 00:12:41.32\00:12:43.81 I don't see them that way. 00:12:43.84\00:12:46.05 That's true, but they're both to be seen, because yours is 00:12:47.00\00:12:50.86 valid and yours is valid. 00:12:50.89\00:12:53.96 What we don't want to do is to say, 00:12:54.00\00:12:56.50 "If God is not answering your prayers and working like He 00:12:56.60\00:12:58.62 works with Hal, then you are a nobody. 00:12:58.65\00:13:01.16 Because you see I can't tell those stories and I have 00:13:01.20\00:13:03.87 one story but my lands it was a career crisis. 00:13:05.30\00:13:10.55 To me it was so clean cut, it was the good guys against the 00:13:10.59\00:13:15.43 bad guys, I know I'm not a perfect person, 00:13:15.47\00:13:20.00 but if you were to know what was going on you would have 00:13:20.10\00:13:21.56 just said, Dick you just pray about it. 00:13:21.59\00:13:23.83 You know the Lord is in control, by the way when I hear that 00:13:23.86\00:13:25.70 word the Lord is in control. 00:13:25.74\00:13:27.70 What does that do for you? 00:13:27.74\00:13:29.67 I will say yes He is in control of the ship 00:13:29.70\00:13:31.75 but He isn't sponsoring everything that is going on. 00:13:31.78\00:13:33.58 So He's in control ultimately but you can take some huge hits 00:13:33.61\00:13:38.68 along the way. 00:13:38.71\00:13:40.05 He allows man's will to be worked out if that's what 00:13:40.09\00:13:42.25 man wants. 00:13:42.28\00:13:43.25 So here I was, I was praying, Lord, this is easy, this is the 00:13:43.26\00:13:47.59 good guys against the bad guys 00:13:47.62\00:13:49.21 and you know it just continued to go down the hill 00:13:49.24\00:13:54.50 pretty soon I knew what was like to be hated, excuse me, 00:13:54.70\00:13:58.59 I knew what was like to feel that bitterness, that hate 00:13:58.62\00:14:01.40 it just all kind of crumbled. 00:14:01.43\00:14:03.24 And here I was praying, "This is easy, Lord, 00:14:03.28\00:14:06.16 this is easy!" 00:14:06.19\00:14:07.16 But you know David even says in Scriptures that at times 00:14:07.17\00:14:10.38 it looks like the bad guys win. 00:14:10.41\00:14:12.12 But you know as I look it back now, and this is why I think 00:14:12.15\00:14:16.42 that there is always other options God really answered my 00:14:16.45\00:14:19.57 prayer because I wanted to be the most affective that I could 00:14:20.03\00:14:24.10 in serving Him. 00:14:24.13\00:14:25.16 So that was the deeper need that I had. 00:14:27.10\00:14:30.30 So I saw it as a need to maintain my present job, 00:14:30.50\00:14:34.38 so I was praying, "Lord, hold this position together!" 00:14:34.41\00:14:38.55 The Lord was looking deeper. 00:14:38.60\00:14:39.57 In other words, He could say, Dick "You can be much more 00:14:40.60\00:14:42.17 to Me, if you were doing something else 00:14:42.20\00:14:46.00 Did you realize that at the time? 00:14:46.10\00:14:49.20 Of course, not! 00:14:49.25\00:14:50.45 I went through the trauma of disappointment, 00:14:50.50\00:14:53.20 "Oh, God, why aren't You hearing my prayer?" 00:14:53.23\00:14:55.90 I changed careers entirely and that wasn't the end of it 00:14:56.00\00:14:59.49 not only did I get like this, then I went to my new job. 00:14:59.52\00:15:03.74 And I was supposed to take somebody else's place and they 00:15:03.77\00:15:07.00 didn't want to quit it. 00:15:07.03\00:15:08.00 Do you know what they did to me? They said, "You sit out here 00:15:11.50\00:15:14.56 at the secretary's desk, months then. " 00:15:14.59\00:15:16.87 So, here I was... I got a new job and the other 00:15:16.90\00:15:20.00 guy didn't want to quit. 00:15:20.03\00:15:21.96 So I was setting at a secretaries desk waiting for 00:15:22.00\00:15:24.79 an all clear, it wasn't long after that, that we began to 00:15:24.82\00:15:28.62 have this drug problem in the kids. 00:15:28.65\00:15:31.48 In other words, I was just being just twisted and broken. 00:15:31.51\00:15:35.64 But you know, what happened during that whole time? 00:15:35.67\00:15:39.50 I began to preach! 00:15:39.53\00:15:40.50 Instead of administrator at the General Conference. 00:15:43.99\00:15:45.06 Someone said to me one time, "When's the best time in your 00:15:47.00\00:15:51.34 ministry?" In other words would it be when 00:15:51.37\00:15:53.39 you were here or there, "Right now!" "It's right now!" 00:15:53.44\00:15:57.80 Because God answered my prayer and NO was really YES. 00:15:58.10\00:16:04.60 He said NO to my prayer, but He said YES to my heart. 00:16:04.70\00:16:10.65 In fact, I could even say He returned me to the ministry, 00:16:10.68\00:16:15.16 now I was doing a ministry, but not the ministry 00:16:15.19\00:16:18.05 that I do now. 00:16:18.08\00:16:19.05 When you send up the prayer, the Lord may have said, 00:16:20.00\00:16:22.73 Dick "Give Me another option!" 00:16:22.76\00:16:25.13 I'm going to give you another option. 00:16:25.16\00:16:29.32 Sort of a comment. 00:16:29.35\00:16:30.45 I'm going to say no to what you are praying about 00:16:30.48\00:16:35.45 but it's really YES, because I'm going to give you the desire 00:16:37.00\00:16:39.50 of your heart. 00:16:39.53\00:16:41.00 Your heart is to serve Me and to be of the greatest contribution 00:16:41.10\00:16:45.60 in My work I will make it happen, but it won't be 00:16:45.63\00:16:48.78 anything like you do. 00:16:48.81\00:16:49.78 Just broaden your horizons 1,000% beyond what you thought 00:16:49.81\00:16:54.62 it was going to be. 00:16:54.65\00:16:55.62 There was a time in my life when I used to think big. 00:16:55.80\00:17:00.30 I've been all over the world, I've been with kings and 00:17:00.33\00:17:04.34 with presidents and I was thinking big, I was even dealing 00:17:04.37\00:17:07.33 with millions of dollars, and everything 00:17:07.36\00:17:09.76 I'm glad I got past that. 00:17:09.79\00:17:11.18 If you come to me and say Dick I've got some big thing for you. 00:17:11.21\00:17:15.62 I would say I've already done that, I've got something 00:17:15.65\00:17:18.43 important for you, I've already done that. 00:17:18.46\00:17:20.34 The best part of all now I think small. 00:17:20.37\00:17:27.00 What do you mean? 00:17:27.10\00:17:28.14 I think small. 00:17:28.17\00:17:29.14 Remember what Jesus said, "He who is faithful in that 00:17:29.15\00:17:31.70 which is least. " 00:17:31.73\00:17:32.76 Life may have its big things, 00:17:34.60\00:17:37.60 but the big things are the product of the small things. 00:17:37.70\00:17:42.70 So, I'm so thankful to God that He answered my prayer with 00:17:42.90\00:17:48.70 a big, fat NO that became a Yes, 00:17:48.90\00:17:53.88 and He changed my mind. 00:17:53.91\00:17:55.67 That's not the story that you tell about laying in your vomit. 00:17:55.70\00:17:59.03 Praise God! 00:17:59.06\00:18:01.52 But it's the same miracle, God. 00:18:01.58\00:18:04.10 It's these feelings. 00:18:04.13\00:18:05.56 But is this the sustaining power of God at that time 00:18:05.60\00:18:09.68 when you were struggling? 00:18:09.71\00:18:10.68 Answering a prayer, and it's important, that those who 00:18:11.70\00:18:16.40 you were saying a moment ago your background is different 00:18:16.43\00:18:19.29 than his background, but lots of times because you said 00:18:19.32\00:18:22.91 it's not that story, those stories sound so converted 00:18:22.94\00:18:27.20 so transformed, so dramatic. 00:18:27.23\00:18:29.53 I've never been a dope addict. 00:18:29.56\00:18:31.24 But God kept you during a situation even though He didn't 00:18:31.27\00:18:37.52 give you that option. 00:18:37.55\00:18:38.52 That's right. 00:18:38.53\00:18:39.50 He may have been thinking in His mind ok Dick "Give Me another 00:18:41.10\00:18:43.91 option because this is not what you really need. " 00:18:43.94\00:18:45.95 I think the message that we would want our viewers 00:18:47.00\00:18:52.96 to appreciate is that God sees a bigger picture than we see. 00:18:53.00\00:18:57.00 Amen. 00:18:57.05\00:18:58.02 He sees farther wider and He's deeper and I think of 00:18:58.03\00:19:02.00 this beautiful testimony of Joni Erickson Tada. 00:19:02.10\00:19:05.60 She was just a lovely teenage girl, she's swimming one day, 00:19:05.70\00:19:11.70 she breaks her neck. I was reading her biography 00:19:11.73\00:19:15.20 the other day. 00:19:15.23\00:19:16.20 How they prayed! I'm sure they had the annointings 00:19:16.21\00:19:19.04 and prayer and we'll just pray, and we'll have faith and 00:19:19.07\00:19:22.48 we'll have prayer, and so God said NO! 00:19:23.20\00:19:25.84 but really He said YES! 00:19:26.50\00:19:28.72 But she came to know Him more than ever. 00:19:28.75\00:19:33.00 "Look at her ministry!" "Yes. " 00:19:33.03\00:19:34.51 If this woman had been healed, 00:19:35.50\00:19:37.09 it would have been a wonderful thing, because 00:19:37.13\00:19:39.49 but the poor thing has spent her life..., but you know 00:19:39.52\00:19:41.97 she's a painter with her teeth, she's a song writer, 00:19:42.70\00:19:45.50 she's a preacher. 00:19:45.53\00:19:46.50 But if she had been healed, she would have probably been a 00:19:46.51\00:19:48.91 nobody, I mean who ever heard of Joni Erickson Tada? 00:19:48.94\00:19:52.77 But in this brokenness as she prayed "God, heal me!" 00:19:52.80\00:19:58.45 He really did, because He healed her spirit, He formed her. 00:19:59.60\00:20:04.90 He gave her a ministry. 00:20:05.00\00:20:06.76 And as a result of this, she got victory, she didn't get healing, 00:20:06.80\00:20:11.80 she got victory over her infirmity, and as a result 00:20:11.83\00:20:14.23 of that, the blessing that she has been to so many millions 00:20:14.26\00:20:18.33 of people. 00:20:18.36\00:20:19.48 You must have something that you need to share. 00:20:19.52\00:20:21.55 In looking at chapter 4 of Philippians verse 19 and it says 00:20:21.59\00:20:27.00 "But my God shall supply all your need according to 00:20:27.10\00:20:33.10 His riches in glory through Christ Jesus. " 00:20:33.20\00:20:34.70 So my needs are different than yours, because 00:20:34.80\00:20:39.80 I had a longer way to come and God had to really rebuild me 00:20:39.90\00:20:44.90 from scratch and... Praise the Lord for that! 00:20:44.93\00:20:48.86 He provided my needs to riches and glory in Jesus Christ. 00:20:48.90\00:20:52.40 But the miracle was exactly the same in supplying your needs 00:20:52.45\00:20:56.45 through His riches in Jesus Christ! 00:20:56.48\00:20:59.95 Isn't the need a sort of generic, In other words, 00:21:00.00\00:21:02.72 He takes us where we are, because your need was to put 00:21:02.75\00:21:06.92 full dependence and confidence in Him. 00:21:06.95\00:21:08.98 My need wasn't any different. 00:21:09.01\00:21:12.01 Obviously, I was not a drug addict and drunkard, 00:21:12.80\00:21:15.80 but I was in a mess in my life and I had bad options, 00:21:15.90\00:21:19.90 and that was to get nearer to Him or give up on Him. 00:21:20.00\00:21:24.10 Because that's the only two ways you can go! 00:21:24.60\00:21:27.13 You can either get near or you will not! 00:21:27.16\00:21:28.97 Think of the fact that our listening audience today, 00:21:29.00\00:21:33.81 there may be people who have hatred, 00:21:37.10\00:21:38.07 for something that's happened in their past and 00:21:38.08\00:21:40.70 their prayer life is really confused by that hatred. 00:21:40.80\00:21:45.20 They may have anxiety, they may have depression, 00:21:45.30\00:21:48.45 they may have wondered, "What am I going to do?" 00:21:48.48\00:21:51.60 When you think about Elijah and his fit of depression, 00:21:51.80\00:21:57.25 when you think about David and his fit of depression, 00:21:57.28\00:21:59.37 I mean these men were men just like all of us and 00:22:01.00\00:22:05.60 their needs were like all of our needs. 00:22:05.70\00:22:10.20 And I think they're given as examples to show 00:22:10.30\00:22:12.50 the power of God to take over in a persons life 00:22:12.60\00:22:17.00 if we surrender our lives. 00:22:17.50\00:22:19.32 and I am not proud of my life style. 00:22:19.35\00:22:26.70 I wish that I could say, "I've never been these things. " 00:22:28.10\00:22:34.10 But on the other hand, I'm proud of what God can do. 00:22:34.20\00:22:38.70 Amen. 00:22:38.73\00:22:40.20 In our lives, no matter what our need is, whether I need 00:22:40.30\00:22:42.81 to be more loving to my neighbor whose dog comes over 00:22:42.84\00:22:47.80 and who's plants stuff in my yard. 00:22:47.83\00:22:49.39 Lord, give me the patience that I need to deal with my children. 00:22:49.42\00:22:56.28 Lord, I don't know how to be a father, but Lord, if You will 00:22:57.40\00:23:00.17 just intervene and be the Father to these kids! 00:23:00.20\00:23:05.03 These are Holy Spirit fruit; 00:23:06.60\00:23:09.56 these are character, these are virtues we're asking for. 00:23:09.60\00:23:12.60 He never, never denies us this kind of prayer. 00:23:12.63\00:23:14.50 This is what we're asking for and this is what 00:23:15.65\00:23:16.62 He will bring around so that it can happen. 00:23:16.63\00:23:18.71 But it may be a different way. 00:23:18.74\00:23:20.19 We have an old time saying "there is more than one way 00:23:20.22\00:23:23.32 to skin a cat." 00:23:23.36\00:23:24.33 And He skins many cats in many different ways! 00:23:24.34\00:23:27.78 If we'll come from the heart and say, "Oh, God, change my kids!" 00:23:27.81\00:23:36.28 Well, maybe that will take a while, but He can change 00:23:36.31\00:23:39.50 you really fast. 00:23:39.53\00:23:40.64 So as soon as I'm changed, then it'll appear my kids 00:23:41.30\00:23:43.23 are changed. 00:23:43.26\00:23:44.23 So the burden of this program is that let's cast all our cares 00:23:44.40\00:23:50.89 on Him, but let's not just say, "This is the way You got to do 00:23:50.92\00:23:55.66 it for me. " 00:23:55.69\00:23:56.66 Let's take a problem up to Him, 00:23:56.67\00:23:59.92 but let's not insist that He's got to do it this way, 00:24:00.60\00:24:03.95 He's got to do it in this amount... 00:24:03.98\00:24:05.20 because He'll do it better. 00:24:05.23\00:24:06.94 He'll do it deeper, He'll do it wider and He'll do it higher. 00:24:08.26\00:24:11.41 "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. " 00:24:11.44\00:24:15.20 Is there time for this poem? 00:24:15.23\00:24:16.20 That's out of the church hymnal please read that, 00:24:16.21\00:24:19.69 It was written by E.D.Chenny. 00:24:20.40\00:24:26.90 At first I prayed for light could I but see the way. 00:24:27.00\00:24:30.46 How gladly, swiftly would I walk to everlasting day! 00:24:30.50\00:24:34.00 And next I prayed for strength that I might tread the road with 00:24:34.03\00:24:37.50 firm, unfaltering feet and win the heaven's serene abode. 00:24:37.53\00:24:42.50 And then I asked for faith. Could I but trust my God? 00:24:42.60\00:24:46.05 I'd lived enfolded in His peace, though foes all abroad. 00:24:46.08\00:24:49.50 but now I pray for love, deep love to God and man 00:24:49.53\00:24:55.06 A living love that will not fail 00:24:55.09\00:24:57.26 however dark His plan. 00:24:57.29\00:24:59.07 And light and strength and faith are opening everywhere. 00:25:00.40\00:25:03.90 God waited patiently until I prayed the larger prayer. " 00:25:03.93\00:25:07.40 Praise the Lord! That's beautiful! 00:25:07.50\00:25:10.50 You've heard the illustration, about if you say to a child 00:25:10.60\00:25:14.15 some day and say, if you want me to give you $5 today or 00:25:14.18\00:25:17.27 you want to see me next year and I'll give you $100, 00:25:17.30\00:25:20.01 the child will probably take the $5. 00:25:20.04\00:25:22.01 because I thought to myself, 00:25:22.04\00:25:26.96 "Our prayers could be $5 prayers. " 00:25:27.00\00:25:29.46 Where God wants to do something big for us, He wants to do 00:25:29.50\00:25:32.00 something that's really life-changing and 00:25:32.03\00:25:33.62 many times we want Him to just take away the pain, 00:25:33.65\00:25:36.20 Just give me a Tylenol God. 00:25:36.23\00:25:38.97 But many times we don't want to address the deep issues. 00:25:39.00\00:25:42.44 As he said, "Give me a new option. " 00:25:43.33\00:25:45.10 I pray, "Give me a new mind. " 00:25:45.13\00:25:47.01 Amen. 00:25:47.04\00:25:48.50 Give me brain surgery Lord. 00:25:48.54\00:25:50.33 A new mind. 00:25:50.36\00:25:51.83 You mean, new electricity. 00:25:51.86\00:25:55.30 This is the challenge and I don't know if it's a form of 00:25:55.80\00:26:01.80 what we said today, "How should I pray?" 00:26:01.83\00:26:07.26 I think that we all should get back and think, 00:26:07.30\00:26:09.26 "What am I praying about? What am I asking God to do?" 00:26:09.30\00:26:12.76 Am I this kind of boxing in me, am I giving Him only one option? 00:26:12.80\00:26:16.10 Or am I going deep? 00:26:16.14\00:26:17.65 You know maybe in your work in regeneration, you talk about 00:26:17.69\00:26:21.45 doing a fearless inventory. 00:26:21.49\00:26:23.04 I think that as we pray, we need to do a fearless, 00:26:23.08\00:26:27.71 honest inventory of what are real needs, 00:26:27.75\00:26:31.13 not what our apparent needs our most visible needs 00:26:31.16\00:26:34.52 but what are those deeper things. 00:26:34.56\00:26:37.05 What do I need to surrender to God? 00:26:37.08\00:26:39.53 What do I need to let go of? 00:26:39.57\00:26:41.12 Oh, yes. 00:26:41.15\00:26:42.12 That's where we need to go, I think. 00:26:43.00\00:26:44.92 And also where we need to end. 00:26:46.03\00:26:47.70 Don't you think? 00:26:47.73\00:26:48.70 We've come to that point again. 00:26:48.71\00:26:49.78 It swiftly flies away on fleeing wings, doesn't it. 00:26:49.82\00:26:55.01 I appreciate you being here. 00:26:55.05\00:26:58.00 You have this way of stimulating one another and I pray that 00:26:58.03\00:27:05.70 our viewers are stimulated as well to think are 00:27:05.73\00:27:08.66 the things in your life that you need to surrender to the Lord. 00:27:08.70\00:27:12.60 I know there is in mine, it's a constant process, isn't it? 00:27:12.70\00:27:17.16 And there are things in our life in which the Lord might say, 00:27:17.20\00:27:19.70 "Give me another option!" 00:27:19.73\00:27:22.16 I want to do something bigger and better for you. 00:27:22.20\00:27:25.20 Amen. 00:27:25.23\00:27:26.20 And as we go out, please pray for us as we pray for you. 00:27:26.21\00:27:30.20 Dick, will you pray for us? 00:27:30.30\00:27:31.30 Heavenly Father, we thank for that You don't laugh at us, 00:27:31.40\00:27:37.00 You don't mock at us even when we ask You for crazy things. 00:27:37.10\00:27:40.40 But teach us to pray the bigger prayer, the deeper prayer, 00:27:40.43\00:27:43.68 the long range prayer. 00:27:43.72\00:27:45.12 That we're not asking for $5 today, but we can actually wait 00:27:45.20\00:27:51.43 for the big blessings that You have for us down the line. 00:27:51.47\00:27:55.61 We are thankful that You are our heavenly Father 00:27:55.65\00:27:59.39 we are thankful that we can be... 00:27:59.42\00:28:01.21