Participants: Kathy Matthews, Karen Tsigonoff, Richard O'Ffill
Series Code: TAH
Program Code: TAH000175
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00:31 Welcome to Thinking About Home.
00:32 I'm Kathy Matthews and thank you again 00:34 for joining us. Truly we've been discussing 00:38 a series of subjects with Pastor Richard O'Ffill 00:43 and Karen Tsigonoff has been visiting us for a 00:46 few programs and she's with us again today. 00:48 And so Pastor we've been discussing the Christian 00:52 family in the last days. I'm glad that Karen's 00:55 been with us because you know sometimes 00:57 you know when we talk about the theory 01:00 or how it ought to be what it used to be, right. 01:03 But having this young person, and she's been 01:05 really relevant, hasn't she? She keeps 01:07 this relevant you know, yeah she has. 01:08 And give us the state of real life. 01:10 Yeah. And the Christian, the Christian life 01:12 has to be real. Now the Christian life is 01:15 a theory but it needs to incarnated into 01:18 our own lives, yes, and especially 01:20 into our families. Jesus said in His last days 01:25 that really He did use the word family 01:28 but He might as well have. 01:29 Well the whole family of God. 01:31 Because that's what we are. 01:32 But the individual families. Because the 01:34 family is the base unit of human society. Yes. 01:38 We all come from a family. 01:39 And if the church is the sum of its families 01:43 and so there would be things that would 01:45 happening in the church in the last days, 01:47 there would probably be the result of what 01:49 would be happening in the families 01:50 and I believe Karen that if there's gonna be 01:53 a revival and a reformation in the church, 01:57 there's got to be a revival and reformation 01:59 of the families. And so Jesus has warned us 02:03 that there would be deceptions in the last days 02:05 and these deceptions would take many forms 02:07 and of course a deception to 02:09 be a deception, is a deception you don't know 02:11 it's there. Right. A good deception you don't 02:14 know it's there. You don't realize it. 02:15 The devil doesn't come in and knock on the door 02:17 saying I'm the devil and I've got a deception. 02:20 Right. Would you like to, he comes dressed 02:23 you know, and someone said that the deceptions 02:27 of the last days are covered with the 02:28 thin skin of truth, you like that, 02:30 thin skin of truth. So, or that error can only 02:34 survive if it's bring back to on truth. 02:37 And I've thought this if I can say this that 02:41 in a way now this sound you've got to cut 02:43 and fall of this a little bit closely. 02:45 In a way truth is weaker than error. 02:50 You know I'm gonna explain what I mean, 02:52 because when you mix truth with error 02:55 it makes error credible but you when mix error 02:59 with truth it pollutes it. Yeah. So error only 03:04 becomes stronger error when it's mixed 03:06 with truth. And when truth is mixed 03:08 with error again it's contaminated. 03:11 And so this is why, as we said in the last 03:15 program that the call to holiness is a call 03:18 to separate it, to separate truth 03:20 from error. And the devil is doing everything 03:24 he can to get into our families to get 03:26 into our homes. By the way, 03:30 you know I live in Florida, don't you? 03:31 Yes. What you are gonna say. 03:32 Well I was just thinking where you were going next. 03:34 Well anyway you know I'm bringing my documentation, 03:37 you've got to do this. I got my documentation. 03:39 You know I've said Karen that I'm gonna have 03:41 a visual in all these programs so we had 03:43 Elmo in one of the programs, yes, 03:44 and I've had funny money in another program. 03:46 And a mouse made out of it. 03:50 Anyway this is my receipt before I came to 3ABN. 03:55 The fellow from the exterminating company 03:58 came and inspected our house for termites, 04:00 this was just last week. Which is not uncommon 04:02 in your area. Well listen you know termites 04:05 were a problem down there and, 04:07 they get into the home. And they eat the house. 04:11 So we got termites in our house a couple of years 04:14 ago and so the company comes every month 04:17 and then once a year they come inside 04:19 and I noticed he's written down nothing found 04:21 at inspection, attic okay. 04:25 What's that supposed to be? What's that supposed be, 04:27 well I wanna tell you what it really means, 04:29 it means that we care about our homes, 04:32 about our houses, what about our homes, 04:35 what about the family. You know I've got a 04:37 contract to keep my house safe from termites. 04:41 Do I have that same sensitivity to keep 04:44 my brain from the termite of the devil? 04:47 And not only that you're willing to have 04:49 someone come in and inspect to let 04:50 you know about it. This is true, but sometimes 04:54 we're not willing, I know, to hear what 04:56 we might be talking about today. 04:57 But for our houses we were willing for them 04:59 to come in and we would spend money on it 05:00 to take care of it we would do what we needed 05:02 to do to care of it but to come in 05:04 and have somebody tell me, my house is about 05:07 to be not by termites, it's got bugs, 05:09 it's got bugs. I'm willing to here that. 05:11 I'm willing to here, if I need to. And what, 05:13 you know the scripture, it says that the scripture 05:16 is profitable for doctrine for reprove for 05:18 correction and for instruction 05:21 and righteousness. And so we are, 05:23 I hear what you're saying; we ought to have 05:24 the same open line, right, for the word of God 05:27 to come into our hearts and into our families 05:29 to tell us if we got termites in our thinking. 05:32 And have a willing heart to be able to hear that. 05:36 There was a time in which there were lots of rules 05:39 and dos and don'ts in our church. Yes. 05:42 I think we talked about that in the last program, 05:45 and we've been kind of playing that now 05:48 it seems to me, in recent years, 05:51 one thing we said well we are not saved by works 05:54 we're saved by faith, which makes some people 05:56 think well it makes no difference how we live, 06:00 where before we're kind of do and don't 06:04 orientated you know right and wrong, 06:06 now we seem to be shifting toward 06:07 relationships you know and of course that 06:10 relationships of what life is about. 06:13 Can you overdo a good thing? 06:14 Well some people for some reason feel that 06:19 if you have a relationship with Jesus then how 06:21 you live may not be important. 06:23 It would seem to me Karen that the closer 06:26 relationship we had with Jesus the more it would 06:28 impact the way we live. Yes. 06:30 Isn't this what happened in your life. 06:31 Well yeah I mean the Bible says literally 06:34 by beholding we become change so that the more 06:36 that I beheld the goodness of Christ 06:38 and the goodness of His life and the things 06:41 that he would have us do and proverbs 06:43 and psalms and that teaches us how to live. 06:46 You change, you start seeing the filth 06:54 of the world and the things that go on. 06:56 Well thing's has been in line. 06:57 You've had an awakened conscious something 07:01 has clicked in there and so now you see what 07:04 you didn't see before. But some people will argue 07:07 well you know we don't have to worry about 07:09 the things that we used to worry about after 07:11 all we live in changing times, having said that 07:14 I will announce the title of this program, 07:17 some things never change. Well you know when 07:20 we were talking about that a moment ago 07:22 and I think you need to explain exactly 07:24 what you mean by some things never change. 07:27 Well for example there's a lots of different 07:31 architectural designs when one's gonna 07:34 build a house. Yes. and you can make it really 07:38 you know as pretty as you want. 07:40 But unless you follow certain principles 07:43 it's gonna fall down, it's gonna leak, 07:45 it's gonna fall down, it's not gonna be square, 07:47 but the principles have to stay the same, 07:49 so the principles are the same, 07:50 so they never change. So I think in the Christian 07:52 life especially in the last days, 07:53 things are changing so fast and furious that 07:57 we can be deceived into thinking, 08:00 I was gonna say in the thinking that the 08:02 principles have changed, it would be better to say 08:04 we can be deceived in the thinking that 08:06 there are no principles that it's all very 08:08 subjective. Right. And, or gray. 08:12 That would be another subject. What it's like. 08:15 By the way I'm doing the sermon entitled 08:16 shades of grave. Oh okay. But it'll not before 08:18 this program. But anyway I think that 08:21 it's really important then when we built houses 08:24 that you have to have one of these. 08:26 Not all the, every house is gonna look the 08:27 same but it's got to be square, 08:29 it's got to be on a foundation, 08:30 you know it's got to have certain things, 08:32 so some things never change in principles, 08:35 this could be seen then as a principle. 08:37 And so in the Christian life what do we have, 08:40 we have God's word, this is God's word 08:43 which never changes until times 08:45 do truly change. I believe that as Christians 08:49 living in this day and age we must change. 08:52 You see, some people think well you know 08:55 you people just never wanna change you always 08:57 be that wanna be the same, no, no. 08:59 the message to Laodicea says you better change. 09:01 Well, we better change to be more Christ like. 09:03 Well the status quo is unacceptable, you got to 09:09 change but the question is how are we gonna 09:11 change and on what basis we're gonna change. 09:14 Right, right, okay. At least, at least that's 09:16 the way I say, there was a time. 09:18 Well thank you for explain all of that to me. 09:20 well thank you for asking. And for everybody 09:21 who wanted to know themselves. 09:23 Well we got this title. Anyway there was a time 09:26 in which the Christian life was about a lot 09:29 of dos and don'ts. We didn't know why, 09:33 we just knew we should do that, 09:35 now that list seems to have disappeared. 09:38 We knew for example that we shouldn't dance, 09:41 that we shouldn't drink alcohol, 09:43 we shouldn't smoke, we shouldn't go to movies 09:46 and you know speaking of going to movies 09:49 I can remember, believe it or not Karen 09:51 that there was a day in which, 09:54 that gray hair could, like you think that 09:57 he can't remember but I'm sorry go ahead. 10:01 In which when you signed up to go to an 10:03 Adventist College or academy, you had to sign 10:07 that you didn't go to shows, 10:08 you didn't go to movies, is that right. 10:09 And if you put yes and it would say have been 10:13 removing into last year, you put yes, 10:15 you might not get in. And if while you were 10:18 there you went to show, guess where you ended up, 10:21 out the door. It was prohibited. But you know, 10:27 the television pretty well put an end to this 10:30 little clause in our do don't list about don't 10:33 go to shows. Because people said what do 10:35 you mean to go to shows, hey we got it in 10:37 our own home. Right. This brings up ladies the 10:41 subject of television. Right. 10:43 And may I introduce the subject with a personal 10:47 conviction and I like for us to discuss if 10:49 you don't mind. Okay. Alright. 10:50 I believe and how can I say it more unkindly, 10:54 more kindly I hope this kind. I really believe 10:57 that television is watched by the average 11:01 Christian is incompatible with the spiritual life. 11:05 Now listen to the words. As watched by the 11:07 average Christian, and what kind of television, 11:10 well I'm saying, regular, I'm saying as watched 11:12 yes okay, in other words, make it really clear, 11:15 the television watching habits of the average 11:18 Christian are not consistent with what 11:21 we're asking Jesus to do in our lives. 11:24 Now I'll throw that all on tape, 11:25 you agree or disagree? I agree with it I know 11:27 that it effected my life and has, you have some 11:30 things to share maybe that's more recent. 11:33 Well yes it's effected my life I can remember 11:35 as a child watching horrible things 11:38 on television, horror movies that you know 11:39 images that have stayed with me and I prayed 11:41 daily that the Lord would cleanse my brain 11:43 of those but as a Christian coming into the 11:46 Adventist truth that we have, moved from 11:52 Black Hills Health And Education Center 11:53 where we're taking classes there to Billings, 11:55 Montana. I'm a stay at home mother so getting 12:00 very edging for something and got a television. 12:05 Well that was the biggest mistake of my life 12:06 because I realized the hard way that I'm a little 12:09 weaker and where I wanted to be strong 12:11 and only watch certain programming that would be 12:14 be safe for me to watch I strayed and even, 12:19 you know that changed me and I'm not going to 12:21 blame television because I'm a sinner 12:23 and I made my own choices. But when I go the 12:25 television that is the turning point and I fell 12:30 away from the Lord for a period of three months 12:32 and I started doing things that were contracted 12:34 the truth that I know. And I had to get it out. 12:38 We, I got it out I mean we were paying payments 12:41 on it and I told the people so you've got to come 12:43 and get this thing it was like, so did you know, 12:46 you know it's like a predator calling 12:47 the police and 911, somebody's in here, 12:49 you've got to come and get him, termites, 12:51 termites in my house, it was really like that, 12:52 right. And that, did you continue, 12:56 so did you continue to pay on it, yes I paid, 12:59 you had to lose a little money right, 13:00 I lost money, yeah, but I was willing I didn't care 13:03 about the money, okay, I realized I was losing 13:05 my own soul because of the decisions I was making, 13:07 because of the programming 13:09 I was beholding. Now ladies, lets just, 13:12 just for the record. This happens to be 13:16 3ABN Television, yes. And so I don't think that 13:20 we can sit on this program, right, 13:22 and say don't watch television, 'cause guess 13:25 what you and I just disappear, 13:27 that's when I say make it clear. Make it clear what 13:29 you are talking about. Well the problem that 13:31 I had it's just my individual weakness 13:35 that I have to realize I can abuse a good thing. 13:38 So where I'm you know, I just I'm the type of 13:41 person that cannot have a television 13:42 in my home, because it does me harm. 13:45 The goal for me is to reach a point where 13:47 I can have a television so I can view 3ABN, 13:50 so I can view certain seminars, 13:51 I love a real scrubbing you know so I can watch 13:54 these things. But that's my weakness now but. 13:57 Yeah you have to avoid even a good thing to be 14:01 able to keep you away from those things 14:03 that you know in which you are too weak at this 14:05 point to do anything about it. 14:07 I heard a story Kathy about a, 14:10 and this was kind of a third person story the 14:12 person saying that a family had bought a 14:15 television and apparently they didn't have 14:18 the 3ABN, you know dish or whatever which is, 14:21 but they had said we're going to control 14:23 the television. This person said when 14:26 them in their home they just got the television 14:29 and they wouldn't even watch the commercials 14:31 I mean you're talking about a born 14:34 again television. Yes. And it was just really, 14:36 it was really structured. He said Pastor O'Ffill 14:42 I've visited that family a year later, 14:44 you know what I'm gonna say, 14:46 they were watching everything that came 14:48 down the pike yeah and the worse part 14:50 and this goes to this whole theme that they 14:52 were doing they didn't know anything 14:54 had changed, they were deceived. Right. 14:57 In other words someway like termites, 14:59 this come in, and it come in and with their 15:01 best intentions. And so I think, I don't think 15:04 we are being at all disloyal, 15:07 we believed in the propagation of the Gospel 15:10 through the media of television. 15:11 But yet at the same time we realized that 15:14 television in the hands of so many families 15:18 is letting worse than termites I mean you could 15:21 fix what the damage of termite could do. Right. 15:23 You almost can't fix the other. 15:25 But what do you do and this gets in the heads 15:27 of your kids, it takes time, yes. you know when 15:31 you're talking about that a moment ago 15:33 do you remember when Rachel sang her song 15:35 that you wrote as a result it was Karen and John, 15:38 this is our Karen, yes, yes. And that she was 15:42 listening to us talk on the phone, 15:45 remember the song started out. 15:48 She is crying on the phone. 15:50 Well, there was something that Karen said to me 15:52 that day and I don't know if you remember 15:54 this maybe you can recall Karen that at the 15:57 time that it was not out of the home for her 16:01 that what she was doing and her choices. 16:07 She said right now I'm desensitized, 16:11 because right now I don't care, do you see 16:14 the difference in her now, oh yes, yes, 16:16 because I remember after that and you have made 16:19 a decision to get rid of that and you said 16:21 it's going and they both made the decision that 16:24 this what we are gonna do it's going because 16:26 we are not able to handle it, 16:28 we can't control it, we can't control it. 16:29 and I think there's a lot to be said because 16:32 you know there's nothing wrong with saying 16:35 I'm weak in that area I stay away from that, 16:37 right, when you speak about being desensitized 16:39 can I tell you kind of a little girl story, 16:42 I wanna tell you one more thing, 16:43 you can tell a story, yes madam, go ahead. 16:45 The other thing that she said though the day 16:48 that was gone, do you remember what you said 16:51 about how you felt? I felt free. 16:54 I felt, I can't remember exactly but I do remember 16:57 the house was barren I mean we hardly had 16:59 any furniture, we're so new to town, we're, 17:01 but anyway we're, I felt that the burden was gone, 17:06 I did I felt lighter I just felt because it really. 17:10 I mean I've done some studies on what television 17:13 can actually do to our physiologically depending 17:17 on the program we're watching but, 17:18 what I was beholding was really, 17:22 I was getting colder, yes, that's what 17:24 I'm talking about, that's what she was 17:26 telling about, you know that actually does a lot 17:27 of damage to your frontal lobe and even 17:30 if you're watching a good program, 17:31 even if I would watch discovery where these 17:35 good programs American History Channel 17:36 there's commercials that come on, if like you said 17:40 these folks when at home and they were muting 17:42 these if you don't continually do that, 17:45 there's music. Television and the people behind 17:50 it they do all they can in their research 17:53 psychologically everything they can do to trap you, 17:56 but you're gonna trance. And that's exactly what 17:59 was happening to me. Now somebody think 18:00 we're being pretty picky here, but when you're 18:02 taking the majority of the nation it seems 18:05 or the world who has been raised on television 18:08 and then we want to move into the 18:10 Christian lifestyle. If we would like to say that 18:12 is not affecting us I think we're sadly wrong. 18:14 Well that's where I started out, can I tell my 18:17 little story now. Oh yes, I gave you permission. 18:20 I just had to just, I'm sorry, no but I think 18:23 it was, and it is just important to me to the 18:24 difference go ahead. I think it's so important 18:26 what she said because its real life and the story 18:28 that I'm gonna tell is a little bit goofy. 18:32 I used to have real allergies as I've got an 18:34 older through the years, it's not getting worse, 18:38 it gotten better I've grown lots of allergy. 18:39 But Karen you know when I a number of years 18:42 ago when our youngest son was still 18:44 at home Dan, we would eat, be just three 18:46 of us at the table and it wasn't just hot food 18:50 I don't know, I think with my allergy, 18:51 but sometimes when I start eating, excuse me 18:53 for saying this, my nose would started running. 18:56 And I don't know how else to say it, 18:58 my nose would started running. 18:59 And so I would reach out my pocket you know 19:01 and I would pick out my handkerchief and I would 19:02 you know, it's my, I think it's supposed to do but. 19:05 And so Dan, and it's better than having 19:07 a running nose, and so Dan he is sitting 19:09 at the table there and when I would there 19:11 with my handkerchief he would say oh yuck. 19:14 You know, yuck is one of these words for 19:16 young people, he would say oh yuck that 19:18 grosses me out and he would take his plate 19:21 from the table. And I would say come back, 19:23 he say I can't and goes down. Okay. 19:25 And that didn't happen once, 19:27 that was happening all, I couldn't help it, 19:29 I couldn't help it, it was just did I'm had 19:31 these allergies. Okay. And so, you know this 19:34 was going on for a period of time 19:36 and so one day I thought what I gonna do 19:37 about this. So one day I thought I'm gonna 19:40 teach them a lesson I think. So there we're 19:43 sitting at the table he was still there you know 19:45 I guess my I hadn't grossed him out yet, 19:47 I started making up a story about 19:51 something lured. Now I didn't get pornography 19:54 but I started making up a story about 19:56 somebody having an affair. It wasn't so long, 20:00 I just barely got into it. Okay. 20:01 This is where we're going now. 20:02 That the minute I start this story, 20:05 my wife she stops, she starts listening. 20:08 And Dan he kind of you know he starts really 20:12 getting into, how's that, you know, how's that, 20:14 really interested. And so I let that story last 20:16 who knows 30 seconds and then I stopped, 20:20 and I said tell me which is worse, 20:24 blowing your nose at the table or adultery. 20:28 Makes a good point. You clear the point. 20:30 In other words, in other words when I'm blowing 20:31 my nose he's grossed out he walks out of the room. 20:34 But some of these other things wouldn't 20:36 gross out at all. Yeah but when we're talking 20:37 about adultery and fornication whatever, 20:39 then we get, yeah tell me about this. 20:42 And you know it goes back to what 20:45 we're talking about; we're not talking against 20:47 television how can we? But we're just saying 20:50 that television is watched by the average 20:52 Christian is desensitizing, when we're watching 20:56 assimilated adultery or suggested adultery 20:59 we're watching people lie, we're watching 21:01 people sink, nudity, and kill and everything 21:06 you mind if I tell you another little story, 21:08 no, go ahead, I like your stories, the, 21:12 I was traveling one time and I think I heard 21:14 Karen say that you know we used television 21:16 to keep us company, we use it to keep us company. 21:18 Yes. And so it might be fun to travel for some 21:21 people but it's kind of lonely especially after 21:23 the work is done what I'm gonna do, 21:25 I think I'm like television, 21:27 so I hadn't watched anything bad. 21:30 Well I can't say that either I just watched 21:32 whatever came on but I wasn't buying dirty 21:34 movies or whatever it was, it was just coming 21:37 of the regular channel and so pretty soon 21:39 it comes time to go to bed. And I took my shower 21:43 and I had my little devotional and I got on 21:46 my knees I started to pray. 21:47 What's in your mind? What was in your mind, 21:50 when I watch this I started to pray I get 21:52 halfway through my prayer and I stopped. 21:55 Because.. I can't pray anymore. 21:57 I said just prayer doesn't make any sense 22:00 because Karen I'm praying, Oh Jesus help me 22:03 to be pure and kind and you know honest 22:07 you know the whole, the fruit of the spirit 22:10 and it dawns on me that I've been spending 22:13 the last two hours watching just the opposite. 22:17 And I'm thinking to myself this doesn't make 22:18 any sense to me. Yeah. I stopped my prayer right 22:20 there and I thought I think before I pray anymore 22:23 I'm gonna have to decide which is gonna be, right. 22:26 Yeah. When I choose and I've had those 22:28 experiences and when I choose to do something 22:31 like that I have trouble even hearing my 22:34 own prayers. I don't even want to pray. 22:36 I don't speak them out loud. 22:37 Well, expect that I come back to; 22:40 forgive me Lord I see what it's doing to me 22:43 you know praying in that sense. 22:45 But I, it runs through my mind 22:47 or now if I choose to do that if I'm 22:52 in a situation where somebody is impressing 22:54 something or whether pressing something 22:55 upon me it might be different, I don't choose 22:59 myself to get into that sort of thing, 23:01 that's right. But when I've done the choosing 23:02 then I've harmed myself. And you know we have 23:05 to realize too I just think of my son and just a, 23:09 I'm trying to teach him some adequate 23:12 I mean he's saying little words but he understands 23:14 what's in his diaper when it needs to be changed. 23:16 I'm trying to have him say dirty so 23:18 if we're in public he doesn't offend 23:19 anybody by saying certain things, yes. 23:22 But you know I've told him that's a dirty diaper, 23:25 ten million times more than I've, 23:28 actually I blurred out that's doodoo 23:29 or something of that nature. 23:31 And you know he'll remember that, 23:32 he'll remember the doodoo over the dirty. 23:34 Yes. and so you know, no okay so you are an adult 23:37 and I know you're talking about beholding 23:40 these things and then trying to pray 23:41 well if I'll be beholding these things and 23:43 I'm trying to pray as I'm praying 23:45 and then all of a sudden I'm realizing okay, 23:47 I'm supposed to be praying but I just, 23:49 I catch myself day dreaming. Yes. 23:51 All of those filthy images and the violence 23:54 and the fornication or what have you or images 23:57 that are ten times harder to get out 23:59 of my mind and keep coming back and back 24:02 and back and back and because that's the way 24:04 every night. And I've thought and this is 24:09 ridiculous that we may forget the name of our 24:11 first grade teacher but you can remember 24:14 the first dirty joke we ever heard. 24:17 Now I don't say that literally but why is it 24:19 and Karen is saying that this filth, 24:22 this evil and we're actually letting 24:25 it in the house, this is the incredible thing, 24:28 this is the things that we're letting into our 24:30 heads are contrary to everything that 24:33 heaven's gonna be, yes, contrary to everything 24:35 that we even want to be here, right, 24:38 why are we vicariously watching these people 24:41 do things for which Christ died, could I say. 24:45 Right, exactly. What are we gonna do about this? 24:49 We've got to do something about it. 24:52 I think it's you know we hate to use the word 24:54 hypocritical but I think it is hypocritical, yes. 24:56 Unless we can bring our lives into conformity 25:01 with our prayers, could I say that, yes, 25:04 if I'm gonna pray one thing and live another. 25:07 Yes. What can Jesus do for me? 25:11 No, I know this is complicated, 25:13 because you know there's even in some homes 25:17 one of the spouses who likes the stuff 25:20 and other spouse doesn't. And the other 25:22 spouse could say you know this is messing 25:24 up my life. Really it makes it difficult. 25:25 And you know what I've appealed Kathy 25:29 I've said if your spouse appeals to you to do 25:32 something to control the television, 25:34 listen to them, because what they're really 25:36 saying is, this is messing up my 25:38 spiritual life. Right help me. 25:40 It may not be messing up yours but it's 25:42 messing up mine, yes. And if you really love 25:44 your spouse would you want to be, 25:46 or your family members your children, 25:47 you know would you wanna be in heaven 25:48 without them and they would say oh look 25:50 what I did, why didn't I listen to their call 25:51 for help, right. they were saying this is, 25:55 you know I've found it very true that 25:57 when I allow myself to be exposed to this crazy 26:02 stuff you may think this is for us, it takes away 26:07 my desire to pray. Right. I get down on my knees; 26:10 I don't know what to say. Yeah. 26:11 it doesn't make any sense. 26:12 It would help for people too to realize you know 26:14 if you go out and drink alcoholic beverage 26:17 it's inevitably you're going to feel intoxicated 26:20 that's with the alcoholic beverages for. 26:21 Well lots of Christians wouldn't just go and do 26:23 that but they'll sit in front of a television 26:25 that marketing strategies have made they're gonna 26:28 make a hamburger commercial, 26:29 there's subliminal messages, you're gonna 26:30 feel hungry, I noticed when I watch television 26:33 I eat a lot more, I snack and I eat a lot more 26:36 and I you know that's what television 26:38 is meant for. So you're getting a message. 26:39 So but we're more readily willing to do that. 26:43 If people get educated to the effects of these 26:46 kinds of programming and might make them 26:49 better able to make a decision, absolutely. 26:51 Well I think in this program that our message 26:54 has not been anti television. No, it's not. 26:58 But anti-impurity, anti-impurity, 27:00 anti-dishonesty, absolutely, anti-violence 27:03 and that we do have televisions in our homes, 27:06 the majority have televisions in their 27:07 homes do something about that. 27:09 We're doing something about the termites, 27:11 absolutely; we've got to do something about this. 27:14 Oh thank you, you know these are the kind 27:16 of programs that I feel like are so important 27:18 for us in the last days. And I want to just 27:23 thank you Karen for being, thank you so much 27:25 for having me, I know that it's just been very 27:26 real to you and Rick, for going over 27:28 these subjects. It's not been our intention 27:31 to offend anyone, just think, is there something 27:36 happening to you, do you want Christ closer 27:38 in your life? We're going to be praying for you, 27:40 please pray for us and join us 27:42 again on Thinking About Home. 27:46 Heavenly Father, oh Lord, make us real 27:48 sensitive in these last days as the devil tries 27:51 to deceive us and to try to get into our 27:54 hearts and minds, into our homes 27:56 and into the lives of our children. 27:59 Lord, we've taken measures to protect our. |
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