Participants: Kathy Matthews, Richard O'Ffill, Karen Tsigonoff
Series Code: TAH
Program Code: TAH000174
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00:30 Hi, I'm Kathy Matthews and thank you for
00:32 joining us on "Thinking about Home." 00:34 And today we have with us Karen 00:37 Tsigonoff and Pastor Richard O'Ffill from the 00:39 Florida Conference of Seventh-day Adventist. 00:41 And we've been doing a lot of discussing about 00:45 home life, isn't it? Isn't that true? 00:47 In the last days. Yes, in the last days, 00:49 we've been doing a lot of thinking 00:51 about home, haven't we? We sure have. 00:54 We've been doing a series that's the, 00:58 Christian family living in the last days and 01:00 that's exactly where we're at. 01:02 We're in the last days. And, and Jesus has 01:05 warned us in advance that living in the last 01:08 days would be dangerous and more than one way. 01:10 Yes. That there would be deceptions in the last 01:14 days, yes, and, and a deception, if it's gonna 01:16 be credible, a credible deception right. Yes. 01:19 It, it gonna be, people are gonna be, actually 01:21 gonna fall for. Yes. It's gonna be something 01:24 that you don't expect. And, and so the culture 01:28 you know, we've talked about the culture, 01:30 we've talked about, our language, the language 01:33 the, the devil is infiltrating our language. 01:35 He wants to get into our minds. 01:37 And when we think of the, of the very last 01:40 prophecies you know, that we know that the 01:42 devil's last move against the people of God will 01:45 be to destroy them physically. 01:46 We talk about the death degree. Yes. 01:48 But if, but if, if he can get your brain, 01:51 before that, before that. Yes. Then, then he's got 01:54 your body too. Right. Yeah, and so really, 01:57 I've said in this way that the devil's death degree 01:59 is for those whose, whose brains he didn't get. 02:04 You understand what I'm saying? Well, yes. 02:06 And, and, and so what we've got to do as 02:08 families is to be on the guard that the devil 02:11 doesn't get in amongst us, get into our minds, 02:14 get into our, get into our way of thinking. 02:16 Right and our worship 'cause whom 02:19 we serve we worship. Exactly. Or worship we 02:23 serve whichever way you want to think of it. 02:26 In this program I would like for us to, 02:29 I think a little bit and I'm glad that I have you, 02:32 you ladies here with me and you know what 02:35 we're gonna go, don't go there till I, until I say 02:37 go, until I open the gate. No, these ladies are just 02:41 so anxious to get into this subject. 02:42 Oh! No, I don't know about that. 02:44 It's just a, it's a subject they'll that has; 02:47 we've had an experience in. 02:48 Absolutely, but I want to tell our, our viewing 02:51 audience that we're gonna talk about some 02:54 things in this program that please 02:57 be kind to us, right? Because we don't 03:02 purpose to say all that could be set, 03:05 we don't even suggest that that every thought 03:08 that we might express you know is necessarily 03:11 the, you know the, the bottom line, 03:12 the bottom line. Well, or even that 03:14 sometimes that give us the break that we have 03:17 expressed it and maybe we would, if we had an 03:21 opportunity face-to-face we would express it 03:23 even better or more clearer or something like that. 03:26 Yeah, in a different way, but what we hope 03:28 is that these programs will stir up thinking. 03:31 Yes. Now, I remember I had a teacher, 03:33 Karen, years ago, and he would tease the 03:36 class, he would say, don't be afraid to think, 03:38 a thinking is not painful or fatal, but for some 03:41 people you would think it was more, 03:42 it is painful. It's painful, and it maybe you know, 03:44 first of all, but the Christian, isn't there a 03:48 quotation that says that we're to be thinkers and 03:51 not mere reflectors of other people's thoughts. 03:54 And so, even as we go to the word of God we 03:56 go to the word of God to get the information, 03:59 but just like when we eat food we have to 04:00 digest it to make it part of ourselves. 04:03 I think in the same way as we go to the word of 04:05 God and we read His will and His instruction, 04:08 which is profitable for us and necessary for us 04:11 to survive in the last days. We've got a process this 04:14 out; we have to really think about Him. 04:17 Anyway here we go, I'm gonna set the 04:20 introduction for this. Okay. In the church 04:25 from early on, ever since I could remember 04:28 we had only culture standards, 04:30 church standards and it wasn't just the 04:32 Seventh-day Adventist Church. 04:33 No, I would just been say that, it was hardly 04:34 this alone. I think that we got maybe lots of 04:38 our, our church standards from the 04:41 Methodists because that you know, our early 04:43 church fathers and mothers were Methodists. 04:46 I can remember as a child when the, 04:50 Nazarenes. Yes. I maybe wrong, but 04:54 I think there was even a time in which you 04:56 know, the Baptist that you know; they 04:57 wouldn't drink, smoke or dance or go to theater 04:59 and so forth. So, we had these, these things that 05:02 were called you know, the Christian standards 05:04 including the way we would dress. Yes. 05:06 We could dress in certain ways and other 05:07 way we couldn't dress. And, and, and I think 05:10 that the concept of the, the Christian 05:13 lifestyle was based on, on couple of text of 05:16 scripture you know, of course the whole 05:18 scripture, but the text that we would use 05:21 would be maybe the one in James chapter 4 05:24 verse, verse 4, it says, whosoever in the last part. 05:29 Well, let me, let me read the whole thing 05:30 "Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye 05:33 not that the friendship of the world 05:35 is enmity with God? Yeah. Whosoever 05:38 therefore will be a friend of the world is 05:41 the enemy of God." And so, right off we 05:44 understood that the Christian man was not 05:48 to love the world. And, and there was another 05:50 one over in, in First John, it was First John 05:55 chapter 2 verse 15, and it says, love not, 05:59 you could see it here Karen. 06:01 Love not the world, go ahead and read it. 06:04 "Love not the world, neither the things that 06:06 are in the world. If any man love the world, 06:08 the love of the Father is not in him." 06:10 And so I think these, these were probably a 06:13 fundamental texts that that instructed us that 06:18 Christians were not like the world. 06:21 They were different; they were 06:22 suppose to be different. 06:24 Well you know, as time would go in the years 06:26 we passed and you know what the years 06:28 you know, sometimes the years make it, 06:30 will mellow you out and make you sweeter, 06:32 other times they can change things 06:34 fundamentally. Yes, that's true like you 06:35 relaxed and forget what's necessary. 06:37 Exactly and so, what happened I think maybe 06:40 amongst us in, in our particular fellowship 06:43 we began to understand that we're not saved by 06:46 works, we're saved by faith. And you know. 06:49 And that's true. And, and of course it's true, 06:51 but then as we, as this began to down on us, 06:55 we're not saved by works, we're saved by faith. 06:58 Then suddenly these lifestyle issues began to 07:00 be perceive, very good, well they have been, 07:03 they were perceived that has been works. 07:05 Yes, which would be a wrong perception? 07:08 A wrong perception for what salvation is. 07:09 And so, just as soon as a person gets 07:12 oh! I'm not, I'm not saved by grace through 07:14 faith and then they would say, 07:16 well this means I can do anything I want, 07:18 I can live any way I want to live. Yes, okay. 07:20 I can go where I want to go, I can eat what 07:22 I want to eat, I can dress the way I want to dress. 07:24 So, in some ways as the wonderful truth of 07:27 justification by faith, right, began to be 07:29 understood to put it one way we, we began to 07:33 throw the baby out of the bath water. Yes. 07:34 He began to say well, then that's 07:36 was a waste of time. Within we have to 07:38 question I do, I would have to question then 07:41 what's in my heart, then what 07:43 was in my heart before? Do I, do I, do I serve 07:48 the Lord out of the love for Him? 07:50 Or was I only obeying rules to begin with. 07:53 Our list of rules. Yes. Because Karen, I don't 07:55 even think that that you would remember 07:57 because, because you're a new Christian 08:00 that there was kind of a checklist being, being 08:02 even a Seventh-day Adventist and, and even 08:05 members of other faiths was a checklist. 08:08 You didn't do this; you didn't do that, in fact. 08:09 Well, yeah we don't want to just lay that on 08:12 Seventh-day Adventism because it's been that 08:14 way throughout history in a sense because, 08:19 if anybody is serving the Lord only by a 08:22 checklist didn't matter what era of time it was. 08:25 Then and then, if they understood the 08:29 justification by faith and they threw out the 08:31 standards then the problem existed, 08:34 has existed throughout history. 08:36 This is a problem with the heart, of course it is, 08:38 this is not a problem with now, I mean with 08:41 the church now. But it's become extenuated 08:43 we're living in the last days. 08:44 Right, and it's more obvious and it's, 08:46 its more blatant. In our generation because 08:49 we're seeing it happen before, 08:50 before our very eyes. We had the checklist, 08:53 now we're throwing out the checklist and, 08:54 and of course I think we'll talk about this, 08:56 maybe it's not in this program, in other 08:57 programs is that when you through the 08:59 checklist out, did the principles disappear, 09:02 but you know I was surprised, I was reading. 09:05 Did they ever get into the heart in the first book? 09:07 Well, this is what we've got ask ourselves. 09:10 Okay. If we were living by a checklist then the 09:13 as Paul would say, then the law of God was on 09:15 your back. Okay, right. The law of God's in 09:17 your heart, do you still live a holy life, 09:20 scripture would say, yes. Some people 09:21 would say, well, you know the law you know 09:24 I live by grace to whatever. Right. 09:26 But anyway listen to this because in the, 09:29 Old Testament is full of the word "Holy." 09:32 Yes, we know that God is Holy, we sing, holy, 09:35 holy, holy, but listen to this. 09:38 In Hebrews the 12th chapter verse 14 it says, 09:45 "Follow peace with all men, and holiness, 09:49 without which no man shall see the Lord." 09:52 Now, this is pretty heavy. In other words, 09:54 this is. We need to better understand 09:56 holiness. We've got to understand what that is 09:58 because whatever holiness is, if you don't 10:01 have it, you don't see God, and then you don't 10:04 see God. So, I went into this Hebrew stuff you 10:07 know, you wanna hear I'm speak Hebrew, 10:09 I can't. Anyway so, so I went into the 10:12 concordance to find out you know, what this 10:14 meant originally. And do you know that 10:18 one of them big meanings of this word 10:21 holy is separate. Now, I know that doesn't 10:24 you know, you can think of, we know we 10:26 sing holy, holy, holy, you need to think 10:27 between separate, separate, separate. 10:29 But of course see that's a concept of God 10:32 because God's separate then us. From the text, 10:34 it says, don't make me like you. Yes. 10:37 And then and so, and so God is not only, not like 10:40 us, but He is saying to us don't be like them. 10:45 Right. Are we ready? Are you ready ladies? 10:51 No, I'm going to join in. No, I'm not going to 10:56 join, I'm gonna be the referee, remember, 10:58 we would saying before the program. 10:59 Well, we're not doing to be arguing it's just. 11:00 Now, but what we want to, to invite our, 11:03 our viewers to do is to join us, I think it's 11:07 rather clear that historically we were 11:11 called upon that He separate from the world. 11:13 I think it's rather obvious that there is a 11:15 trend now to, to try to get back and to try to 11:18 ignore that for, for whatever reason to be 11:20 like the world, if you're gonna win the world, 11:22 you got to be like them. This text just said 11:26 that when you do that if you love the world you 11:29 begin to lose your touch with God, you can 11:31 become an enemy with God, it's saying here 11:33 unless you're separate, you won't see God. 11:37 And so, let's get on and say, listen we, the issue 11:42 of a, of Christian lifestyle was valid, 11:44 it was valid. Now, we might not know why 11:46 we're doing it? But, but, but, but we were right 11:50 to do it. Yes. Now, of the things and I think 11:53 this is something we want to try to, to survey 11:56 in this program as we want to try to talk about 11:59 this issue of Christian dress. Yes. I mean we 12:02 could pick out the, the health side of it, 12:05 we could pick out whether not we should 12:07 you know, what kind of the pleasures we should 12:10 have, see those because there were many 12:11 components of Christian lifestyle, 12:14 but for the purpose of this program why don't 12:16 we just talk about this issue of what 12:20 should be some of the, the, the principles that 12:23 motivate the Christian in this area of dress. 12:27 And, let me start off by just sort of 12:30 throwing out of the question. 12:34 Is God right or would it be right? 12:37 For God to expect that those who love Him 12:41 would dress different things you know. 12:42 I think that would be appropriate that the, 12:45 the Lord certainly would expect that. 12:48 I was raised in an environment where the 12:51 Lord was professed and there was 12:52 a Bible in our home. However, the lifestyle 12:55 of my home was just like everyone else was 12:58 living in, that wasn't professing the Lord, 13:01 same here, you know dress and music and 13:04 just all these things were, everything was 13:06 the same I, I mean there was no difference. 13:10 So, growing up I just, I didn't, I didn't see God 13:16 in our home. I only heard His name, 13:18 but I didn't see that there was any different 13:21 that He was just like the every one else. Right. 13:25 So, so just like that you 13:27 couldn't tell the difference. 13:28 I couldn't tell the difference and when 13:30 I saw others who were different than I was 13:32 they were strange. And I, thought they were 13:35 odd, they didn't something but then 13:37 coming to Christ and just reading the Bible 13:39 for myself and seeing the way that I had lived 13:42 I knew I had to be different if I wanted to, 13:46 to know Christ, just the way that I was 13:48 introduced to Him I knew I had to there, 13:52 there was something different to Him that 13:56 you, you can't just say serve the Lord, 13:59 follow the Lord, pray and read your Bible and 14:02 do everything that, the same as you used to. 14:05 Yeah you, there has to be changes. 14:07 Well, I think I have to you know it's, it's easier 14:09 for me to tell stories of what happened to me 14:12 when I first became a Christian. 14:15 And I understood that there were things that 14:18 needed to be different, but I was just in the 14:21 world I was brought up, I was raised in the 60s 14:24 there were, it, it seemed to be the thing to, 14:27 have less and less and less clothing on and so 14:33 by the time that I was becoming a Christian 14:36 there was an incident that happened to me 14:38 and I was sitting in my bikini and I was, 14:44 weighed a lot less at that time and was a lot 14:47 younger and it was important 14:51 to me to try to attract. And I was just had 14:56 become a Christian and I was sitting over at a 15:00 Christian's home. And we were sitting around 15:03 the pool and one of the husband's came home 15:06 and it was a very hot hard day at work and he 15:12 jumped out of the vehicle and said, 15:14 look out here I come and stripped off his 15:16 clothing into small amounts and it was 15:21 shocking and at the same time I thought 15:25 well, you know I can just pass over this 15:28 obviously this is just the way it is, maybe this is 15:30 just the way it is and there is nothing to be 15:32 embarrassed about. Later on as I began to 15:35 more, study more for myself, I, I needed to, 15:40 to see the example and when I saw it, I realized 15:44 that it's, that's, that's what I need to be doing 15:47 as a Christian woman this is what the Lord 15:49 wants me to do. And there was a Christian 15:52 sister who took the risk of the, 'cause this can be 15:57 a hot touchy subject. She took the risk to take 16:01 me aside and get to know me and, and have 16:04 a trust and a rapport and I developed a love for her. 16:09 And then she took the risk of helping me to 16:11 understand that a Christian woman 16:13 needed to make new and different decisions 16:16 and I would like to go back just a little further 16:18 than that as to what my attitude was before 16:21 I ever became a Christian and that was, 16:24 my husband and I were living in Germany, 16:25 we had lived there for three years and I was 16:27 working in a department there on the post and 16:32 there was a staff sergeant that used to 16:33 come in, and at that time it was very 16:37 common for me to read cosmopolitan and, 16:39 and my husband read the mail magazines that 16:43 and they were magazines that they 16:46 affected your thinking, those articles affected 16:48 your thinking and you kind of set your 16:50 lifestyle like that. And I began to be rather 16:56 forward with my ideas about how women 17:00 ought to be and he was talking to me about 17:06 nudity and I promptly told him I'll never 17:09 forget this, I promptly told him that if I 17:12 stand here in front of you with nothing on 17:16 and you dare to touch me, if I haven't told 17:18 you, you could do so then you are totally in 17:22 the wrong because you should not be even 17:25 tempted, you should not have a problem with me 17:27 doing that, that's my decision and you should 17:29 not be affected by it. And he looked at me in 17:31 the face and said, woman, you don't know 17:36 what you're talking about. And just turned on his 17:38 heel and walked out, that was the end of the 17:40 conversation. Well, it took a few years later 17:43 and reading the word of the Lord that I found 17:44 out that I was responsible to a large 17:47 degree as to what I caused other people to 17:50 think about me and I needed to make new 17:54 and different decisions for myself. 17:55 And Karen you might have had some similar. 17:58 Well, yeah I grew up in the 80s which was just 18:01 as bad, if not worse I mean all the things, 18:05 all the individual, you need to be an individual 18:07 and they all looked the same. I don't know 18:09 what whether he was just, 18:13 but one of things I didn't receive in my 18:18 home life I obviously you know acted out as a 18:22 teenager and I always needed attention from 18:24 everyone. And one of the ways I did that was 18:26 because I was blessed with a very good 18:28 metabolism. I always stayed very fit and trim, 18:30 and I didn't have to do anything. 18:32 And sometimes that could be cursed because 18:33 you get very complacent, but I 18:36 wore, I was very scantly clad and that's how 18:40 I got everyone's attention. And especially men's 18:44 attention, I was always searching for that. 18:47 And the only way that I could do that because 18:50 I had no value at all, was to wear tiny skirts 18:54 and little tops and just do whatever I could to 18:56 get somebody to look at me. 18:57 Then when I became a Christian I really started 18:59 I won't do that anymore and the only way that 19:01 I could change, amen, is to stop showing that 19:04 that there was something in my heart 19:05 that meant more, and my body wasn't important. 19:08 And then I also had to be very careful because 19:11 the Bible says, if you do something and I'm 19:14 paraphrasing and please forgive me, if you're 19:16 doing something to cause a man's fault, 19:18 it's better that a weight be tied around your 19:19 neck and you're thrown in the river. 19:21 Now, that's not a bad application. 19:22 Okay, so I, I had to realize if I don't want 19:26 and I praised the Lord when I got married, 19:27 I felt so good and I was a married woman and 19:31 I can remember wanting to change the length of 19:35 my skirts and the height of my shoes and the 19:39 amount of eyeliner, just these are, these are. 19:43 Because now you belong to he and he 19:44 belong to you. And I wanted to be sacred, 19:46 I wanted to be hidden, I wanted to my own and 19:49 my husband's own and nobody else', yes, 19:51 I wanted some mystery. There's a beauty in that. 19:54 Yeah. And you've got something. 19:56 Listen, but you know, and again I want to say 19:58 to our viewers that this is, this is a very, very 20:02 important subject and we wouldn't for the 20:05 world you know 'cause anyone to stumble or, 20:09 to offend anyone. And, and what we're saying 20:11 now or what we're about to say. 20:14 I remember I would sitting around the table 20:16 one time and, and a young lady she said, 20:18 I want to appear to be appealing to men and 20:23 I said to her, she was a married woman, wanted 20:26 to be appealing to men plural. And you said, 20:28 you and, and, and I, and I, and I said to her, 20:30 do you what means to us men? 20:32 Do you know what that means to us men? 20:35 Do you really want that, is that what you want to 20:37 appear, is that what the thought you want to 20:39 have in our minds? Now, let me just say 20:41 here that that we would never want to, 20:44 when we talk about dress and so forth, 20:46 make it seem like this is a woman's problem 20:48 because obviously we all have our problems 20:51 and I don't think that what you just said 20:53 Kathy, you know if a man does something 20:56 that's wrong, when he does something that's 20:58 wrong, he is accountable for it. Yes. 21:00 But I think I'm hearing you say that that as a 21:02 Christian woman you feel you have an 21:05 accountability to God for who you are and 21:07 how you betray it, or how you not betray, 21:09 but how you portrait yourself, 21:11 are you portrait yourself? And this is the most 21:15 the worst thing I could say and please I say to 21:18 those the sisters in Christ and who are 21:22 watching the program. I've been mentioning in, 21:25 in some of my sermons likely I said, ladies, 21:28 we men haven't changed. Now, here goes Karen, 21:31 we're the same dirty old men we've always been, 21:34 no, no, I'm serious I mean there was, men 21:36 are, men are like that. And, and, and, and no 21:39 excuse for that, it's awful. We're going to 21:41 have the answer. Find nature. We're gonna 21:42 have to answer to God for being dirty old men, 21:46 but yet something has changing, something is 21:48 changing in society it's not us, forgive me for 21:52 saying it's the women. The women I hate to 21:55 say this or getting to be kind of dirty old men 21:57 like dirty old woman are like we were dirty 22:00 old men. And, and, and I've been asking the 22:02 question into some of the congregations 22:05 where I preach. And, and I don't know what 22:07 you ladies will say about this or our viewers. 22:11 Who sets the moral climate for the nation? 22:14 I don't think it's us men. Oh! We discussed that 22:17 the other day with young man that we 22:19 were talking to and we wondered well how it 22:21 came about, who was behind it, and of course 22:23 we have an enemy behind it, but. 22:25 In other words, we could say, 22:26 we could say, well, it's the men that are the 22:28 drivers behind in modesty, but, but yet 22:31 I think that to some extend, now this is from 22:35 a man's point of view. I think to some extend 22:38 the women set the moral climate in the nation. 22:41 Can I tell another little story that came to my 22:43 mind while we are on here? 22:44 I didn't' think of it before end. 22:46 There was a class reunion that I was going 22:48 back to, our 10th year class reunion and I was 22:50 just oh! Just had become Seventh-day 22:54 Adventist Christian and I wanted to look 22:57 different and I ran a business and the 23:00 business had to do with weight loss and so 23:03 I looked to the part at the time, I lived the 23:06 part, I looked the part, I had just become a 23:08 Christian I had not changed a great deal. 23:10 And I, I took some pictures for this class 23:14 reunion and those pictures were meant to 23:18 be sensual. I wanted to look the part, so I took 23:22 them to the dear lady that I had been studying 23:25 with, and she just looked at them with this 23:27 with, and she just looked at them with this 23:28 kind of blank look on her face, not wanting to 23:30 hurt me I know and she said, well Kathy, 23:35 it depends on what you want to betray? 23:37 What do you want them to think about you? 23:40 And walked away from me and said, goodnight 23:42 'cause our prayer meeting was over and 23:44 she didn't say anything about what I had on, 23:46 she didn't say anything just depends on what 23:48 you want them to think. And it hit me, 23:53 I have you know I don't need to think about 23:56 what I want them to think and I went home 23:59 and I tore them up and I didn't send them off 24:02 and tried to portray something now of the 24:04 new me that I wanted them to see. Go ahead. 24:08 And I think Karen that you know over here. 24:10 Well, I guess you just wouldn't want anyone 24:12 to think that there is a fine line between 24:16 everything I had, I mean I, I don't want to 24:19 live every moment of life worrying about 24:23 what someone else is going to think about, 24:24 right, I want to be confident in the 24:26 decisions I make, but I need to also aware on 24:29 the other side that, I'm an ambassador 24:32 for Jesus Christ. Amen, amen. 24:34 And if I want someone to see Jesus Christ 24:38 as humble and pure, pure, I mean and we 24:44 also have to deal whether we want to 24:46 accept it or not. We have to deal with 24:47 the fact that our society is very sick, 24:49 very desensitized. That's right, and 24:52 regardless if it's right because it's not. 24:56 We wish we live in a society where we have 24:58 to be, we're walking on egg shells, you know 25:01 but we have to realize we're among, we are, 25:04 we're lambs among wolves. That's true. 25:07 And we've got to be every moment thinking 25:11 okay, how am I portraying myself? 25:14 Am I going to give and God forbid. 25:16 God forbid anyone, God forbid anyone what 25:18 think that that anyone that's a victim of this 25:24 world is at fault, but I had to realize that if, 25:31 I didn't want someone looking at me to lust 25:34 after me and a man is gonna lust regardless, 25:36 you could be having a paper sack over your 25:38 head and he's gonna lust of you, but. 25:41 But we, we want, we're in a society. 25:43 We want to defend those who are good 25:44 men who, who endeavor to represent 25:45 Christ too and don't want it. 25:47 Right, but we're sinful. I go into the mall the 25:49 other day and I see Victoria Secret, 25:52 it's a very fancy women's lingerie and a 25:58 picture the size of a building as a women in 26:01 her underwear. And so this is what men are, 26:04 they are desensitized, they don't think of that 26:07 like, oh! No one walks by and looks at that 26:09 like, like that anymore, so we just. 26:12 We need to become sensitive to what Christ 26:13 seem to have us to be. Well, I hope that our, 26:16 that our viewers have not mind to this 26:17 program because what we are saying is that 26:19 that it's seem to us that is son's sons. 26:23 Now, we haven't talked about our men's 26:24 problems and, and I apologize 'cause we've 26:26 got many in, in the areas of modesty. 26:28 There is no doubt about that. 26:30 Do you know, one of the first casualties 26:33 or one of the first things that happened when, 26:36 our forefather, grandma and grandpa Adam and 26:38 Eve sinned, was they lose their cloth? Yeah. 26:40 Their clothes disappeared. That is a point tonight. 26:42 And one of the first things that that, 26:43 Jesus did in redemption was to 26:46 put the clothes back on. And isn't it incredible 26:49 that in these last days this, 26:52 generation has an obsession with taking 26:53 it's clothes off again. It's like we're going back, 26:56 yes, in another word this is in God's face 26:58 we're gonna take our clothes off and so, 27:01 I think that as Christian families with our 27:03 children and as husbands and wives 27:05 how important it is that we be on guard so that 27:08 we don't get drawn and deceived. 27:10 Well, I think this is a subject that our homes 27:12 needed to been, that needed to be discussed 27:15 in our homes, talk our children, talk to each 27:17 other and kneel down and pray with each 27:20 other to see, am I really representing my Lord 27:24 the way I need to, I need too, we need to 27:26 continue to all the time. You know, we're gonna 27:28 go out with prayer, we're gonna be praying 27:30 about this subject and I want to invite you back 27:34 with us again. We're going to be covering 27:35 more things on Thinking about Home. 27:38 Pray for us. We're gonna praying for you 27:39 and Karen I wish you would 27:41 pray for us as we go out now. 27:44 Heavenly Father, Lord, we come before your 27:46 gracious and loving throne and we just pray 27:49 for ourselves and all out there that Lord you 27:52 would just please. Be with our minds and our 27:55 hearts. Help us to understand what you 27:57 would have us do, the things. |
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