Welcome to Thinking
About Home, I'm Kathy Matthews.
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And I'm glad that
you're back with us again.
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Today, we are going to be
talking to Richard O'Ffill
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from the Florida Conference
of Seventh-day Adventist.
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And we are teaming up
again for our new series Dick.
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And it's gonna be a series
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about the Christian
family living in the last days.
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Of what we need to
talk about this subject.
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There is no doubt
about that, we need,
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you know there has
been Christian families
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you know all along, but
never Christian families
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in these last days, no.
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And the Christian families
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in the last days
have new challenges.
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Yes they do. They
have new challenges
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because the scripture said
in the last days it would be
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especially
dangerous, especially dangerous.
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But before we start, I just
want to thank you for inviting
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me here into your living
room, I think it's lovely.
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You always keep it
all the things so nice.
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Looks the same those flowers
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how do you keep
them so fresh and...
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They are fresh cut.
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Fresh cut, always for,
always for every program
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and it's so nice to be together.
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You know, when you and I get
together we laugh and carry on.
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And I suppose that
there are times that we cry.
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Yes, I started to saying
some times it's more serious.
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And this is more serious,
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but I think that where
we can, we need to smile.
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We need to smile,
and trust the Lord,
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because if we
have a blessed hope,
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yes, we live in the last days,
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times are
difficult and we don't...
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It's all we have
to hang on to really.
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So, we got to have a hope
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that bring the
smile to our face.
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Sometimes we might
want grit our teeth,
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and sometimes wipe a tear.
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But anyway, I'm
gonna do a grandpa thing,
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you mind if I
do a grandpa thing.
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No, I don't mind I...
I hope no one else does.
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This is a funny thing,
I hope they understand.
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But now let me kind of
set the context for this
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that sometimes in church
I will, when I'm preaching,
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when I'm visiting I
will say to the congregation
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are there any grandparents here?
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And I want to say we
grandparents are proud of it.
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So, you are not
a grandma yet? No.
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When you are, this program
is gonna really be you know,
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because it say
something special.
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I hope to be some day.
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And anyway, so I'll
ask how many grandparents,
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and so I could ask or you know,
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those who are
watching how many grandparents?
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I raise my hand
of course I can't see
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whether they are
raising their hands,
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but surely lots of
grandparents. Lots of people do.
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I watch Thinking About Home.
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Then I'll say are
there any parents,
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of course the grandparents
have to keep their hands up
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and their children
will raise the hands,
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and then I will say are
there any children here?
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And of course the
immediate response
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is the little
people raise their hands,
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I'm saying no we
are all children.
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All children, yes, that's right.
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So anyway, I'm gonna
show you... You catch them.
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I'm gonna show you what
I do for little children,
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okay, and for even teenagers.
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I did this for Rachel,
and she still going crazy,
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trying to figure
out how I do this.
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So I've done this when I travel
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all around the world and
it works in every language.
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They understand.
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Now people gonna say
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Pastor O'Ffill what in
the world are you doing?
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Did you get to
play with handkerchief?
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Please, I just
want to make sure.
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Don't zero in on
this handkerchief.
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Anyway what I do, I will
start kind of humming like this,
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because you know children
like something repetitive,
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they like something predictable.
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So, I do this, I go...
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And the children are watching.
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They don't have any
idea what I'm doing.
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And I'm doing this I'm going...
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You never thought your program
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would
deteriorate into this stage.
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But anyway the people gonna
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they can show me
it and so I'm going...
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The children are
watching like you are watching.
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Yes, I'm... And so
then I go like this,
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and I go like this
and then I'm going...
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And then I get done
like this and you know,
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how I learned to do this
I don't know how old I was
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seven or eight years old.
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A boy he told me if
I give him a nickel,
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he told me how to make it.
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Oh, really. I
paid a nickel for this.
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Anyway, that was
probably 55 years ago.
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Just one nickel made
a difference, did it?
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And so see how there
it is, see I made it see.
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And of course,
you been that pretty
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then I usually do
this with children I go.
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Okay, then I go,
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I know, and then I go.
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When the children saw,
after that they were fascinated.
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They like the
little wagging tail
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and then they
will say what is it?
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Well I say it is
a mouse or rabbit
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and so I call it rabbit.
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And so and I'll just
say isn't that sweet...
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They can't view.
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And then the kids they all jump
and say what's gonna on there?
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And then they start jumping see,
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and then I got
through a great big
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and then people say how
do you do that, how do that?
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Yes, and you never told this.
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Aren't you gonna ask me
what does it have to with it.
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Yes, what's the point?
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The point is
obviously this is an illusion.
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It is. It's an illusion,
because this isn't live.
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Now of course I
make a big deal I say
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well there is a
little springs down here,
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it has a little
heart tuck tucked away,
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but it's an illusion.
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Now there will be another word
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we could use for
that, a worse word.
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Shall I say it? Go head.
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Deception. It's
a deception, okay.
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Now, I know, see when we are
watching things that are funny,
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we say well that's an illusion,
but it isn't really illusion,
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it's a deception,
it's a deception because
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what you see is not
really happening there.
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It's creating something
that isn't really true, right.
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And when I say tell me about
it, tell me how you did that?
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You don't want to tell.
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Well, we gonna have to say
and so send a nickel to 3ABN
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because that's
what I pay for it,
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you know, okay, make a
donation of a nickel to 3ABN.
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I bet you wouldn't give it away.
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No, no, well anyway I
end up telling the kids
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but I tell the kids I
say, you know you really
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don't want to
know how to do this,
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because there
is no fun any more.
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You see there comes a time
in which we want to be deceived.
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We want an illusion
because an illusion is fun.
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So, all the purpose of this...
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You are beginning to
sense it, aren't you?
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Wants to make a point...
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That in the
last days, Jesus said
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there would be
illusions and deceptions.
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And we thought
the last days Kathy
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was gonna be about you
know, the physical part.
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Well, now you are not saying the
deceptions gonna be this simple,
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you are just making a point.
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Well, I'm just making a point
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that this is
obviously an illusion.
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This is a deception,
because it's you know
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it's giving the
person impression
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that this jumps,
this doesn't jump.
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Okay. It just appears to jump.
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And you see the devil, the
devil is the first illusion,
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doesn't he come on as a serpent,
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and starts talking
serpents don't talk.
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So we could say that this
problem here in this planet
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began with an
illusion serpents talking.
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It began with a deception, yes.
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And that deception then
was wrapped in with a lie.
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You know, there is some
text or scripture, okay, and...
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I should have brought my
Bible? You got yours, go ahead.
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Oh, here let me see if
I... Well, I just thought ...
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Let me see if I can find
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where I have
these places marked,
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you know when we're
doing a television program,
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you know, you can do your finger
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and just trying to
find all these places,
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but the page will
be stuck together,
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so we cheat, we
me mark the place,
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isn't that what you do?
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Oh, yes I do. I certainly
do I have to find it quick.
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Anyway here is one
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in Matthew 7 verse
15 Jesus words now.
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It says, "Beware
of false prophets,
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which come to you
in sheep's clothing,
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but inwardly they
are ravening wolves".
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In other words Jesus is
saying something can come to you
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appearing to be one thing
but it's another, it's another.
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Let me go behind and see
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if I can find
another one that I marked.
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This is in Mark.
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This is in Mark
12 and verses 5 and 6
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Jesus said and it says,
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And Jesus
answering them began to say,
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Take heed lest
any man deceive you,
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deceive you there it goes again.
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For many shall
come in my name, saying,
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I'm Christ, and
will be successful.
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It says they will deceive many.
Let see which one comes up next.
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So, you are trying to...
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we need to recognize
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that there is a lot
of deceptions out there.
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Well, I guess
what I'm saying is that
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Jesus himself says
over and over again.
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That this gonna happen.
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That look out that
there would be deceptions,
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look out there would be
deceptions and you know,
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how the kids do these
days, we're kind going...
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who is the deception. Yes,
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so you didn't say it right.
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Well, the point
is, if it's a deception
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you won't even
know it's there, right.
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But Jesus is
saying check it out.
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In other words,
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what you see is not
always what you get.
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Right, trying to
make you wiser discerning.
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Remember, isn't
one place he said
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so I tell you before
hand. Right, this you will know.
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So that you would know.
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And as Christian families,
if we are not up to speed,
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if we are just taking it
as it comes now the pike,
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we will be
victims of this deception.
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Let see if there
is another one here.
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Oh, here is one, it's
in Ephesians 5 verse 6,
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"Let no man deceive you,
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now it kind of begins to
flesh it out with vain words:
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for because of these
things cometh the wrath of God
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upon the
children of disobedience".
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So it kind of gives you
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how you might be
deceived with vain words?
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With vain words. In other words
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is coming in your ears
they are telling us something,
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they are telling you
something, that isn't true.
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Now I wasn't saying anything
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I was just
making something happen.
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But that's not
usually the way it is.
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Deceptions come
in is ideologies,
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they come in as philosophies.
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Let see what my
other one was marked here.
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Let me find it.
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This one was in 2 Thessalonians
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the 2 Chapter in
a 3 verse it says,
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Let no man
deceive you by any means:
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for that day shall not come,
it says let no man deceive you.
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And then it talks
about falling away
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that the man of
sin might be revealed.
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But I think that the point
that we need to be bear in mind
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is that the Christian family
in the last days has to be aware
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that there is
going to be deception.
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Now you know
most of the time Kathy
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when we talk
about the last days,
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it's about persecutions.
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The subject matter is not
necessarily about vain words?
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That's right the
seven last plagues,
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the time of trouble,
and see these we interrupt
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as a threat to life and limb.
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You know, I better
flee to the mountains,
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I better, you know,
given a place in the country,
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you know, which is
you know these are...
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Which is a good
thing. These are valid,
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but what we don't
realize is that the devil
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before he starts putting
all these physical persecutions,
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wouldn't he be
trying to get your brain.
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Since the frontal lobe is
where we need to be protecting
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and that's where we
live, yes well is not.
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It sounds like the
rest of us aren't alive,
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the rest of it's not alive,
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but that's where the
moral decisions are made.
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That's where I'm,
yes, this is where I'm
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and again you see
if we're thinking,
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well, I've got to get
ready for persecutions,
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I've got to get
this and that you know...
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Where we may not be
guarding against vain words.
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Yeah because it comes
in his ideologies, yes.
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It's coming in his
lies, and I've saw to myself
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that really those
who the death decree
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would go after at the very end,
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would be those whose
minds he was not able to get.
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Kind of especially geared.
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Well, in other words because
if the devil gets your mind,
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if he deceives your
mind, then he runs your body.
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So it seems to me that
the death decree is geared
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towards those who
he was not able to win
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through his deceptions in life.
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All the other
obvious ones, okay.
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Have you ever heard me,
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I didn't make this
up when we talk about.
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So this not now you,
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whatever it is
you're gonna do next?
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I'm not gonna do
this again, okay,
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but you know
sometimes I hear a little saying
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and it sticks in my head, yes.
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And it only comes up
I'm not thinking of all day
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but it comes up when
the subject matter comes up,
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because you know, when you start
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talking about
the mind these days
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and the deceptions
and all the new ideas,
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are flowing
around people will say
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have you got keep an open
mind have you heard that one?
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Yes have I know you know
what are you gonna saying yes.
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Okay go head, do it.
Shall I tell our viewer,
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so here is the way I react
to that one when somebody says
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you've got keep an open mind.
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I will say well that might be,
but don't keep such an open mind
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that your brain falls
out, now that's of course.
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But in other words,
what they are saying is
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that though we need to be open
to the growth and the truth.
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We also need to be guarded.
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We need to be guarded because
the devil where the Holy Spirit
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comes in to our minds and hearts
that's where the devil tries
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to get into the same place,
occupy the same territory.
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So, I really think
that as Christian families
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that we have to
prepare for deceptions.
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Now it's, now we
don't always know
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what these
deceptions are gonna be like,
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a Seventh-day Adventist...
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We have some maybe
more special insight.
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We have some pretty good ideas,
but Kathy could it be that
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and you know, that maybe
we see the deceptions as being
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which day you go to church,
right of the state of the dead.
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You know, in other
words these purely highly,
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doctrinal, you know,
which are to us are obvious,
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So, how would the
devil ever deceive me or you?
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Well, I know what you
are talking about on that,
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because I thought
of this before in that.
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How could be it really sensitive
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maybe even
appearing to be guarded mind,
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is there a trap that
the enemy has laid for me?
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And it wouldn't be
which day you go to church
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I guess that's where... It
wouldn't necessarily right,
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it would necessarily be that.
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What would be the area
that I might not recognize?
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This is what
we're talking about,
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and I think in this
program, now later on the series
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we will get the
brand name specific, okay.
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We'll say we think
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somebody to do... Okay,
we do in generic right...
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Right now, I
think what we want to
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get our
listeners on board with us
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is in our viewers
used to say that beyond God
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in the last days
that in the last days
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it's not just what
happens to the body.
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In fact Jesus himself
set in one place don't fear,
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what happen to the body,
what happens to the body.
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Fear those or fear the one
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who can make a
loser soul I think...
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It could cause body and soul.
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So really though the
devil can kill my body,
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the Lord can resurrect that.
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But if the devil
gets into my mind,
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then I get into double jeopardy
I've got problems that...
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So, then we're
gonna be talking about how
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access to this or what things
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he might access
your lined about.
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I think we're gonna
wanna do all of that.
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But I think the
point we want to make
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is that there are
deceptions going on.
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One time someone
was asking me this,
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what's it gonna be like
to live in the last days.
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What do you
mean? I said like this.
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I really believe, I
really believe Kathy
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that to me the greatest danger
about living in the last days
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is not the physical
part, we can get through that,
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even it's
resurrection we get to that.
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The greatest thing we
have to fear is deception.
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Jesus himself look out
you're gonna be deceive,
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look out you're gonna be
deceive and here we are though
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I want what that
be I know which day
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to go to church I
know about this day that.
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Right, it's more the myth.
If he is coming in other ways.
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Now what's the
deception gonna look like?
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Well, it can look
anyway and for one way...
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Well, that could make
a person feel like ha!
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Then what do I look for.
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Well, and so I think
before we're over all
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we're going say that we have
way to protect ourselves I mean.
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The word of the Lord.
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We've got more
sure word of prophecy
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we have lamp unto our
feet, and light unto our path.
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But I think that one
thing we got understand
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is that when the devil
would come into deceive us
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he would not be telling us
what we didn't want to here.
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What do you mean he would...
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In others words, can you imagine
the devil knocking on the door
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of your heart saying,
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it's the devil I
get some lines for you.
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Okay, yes, well
that's two obvious,
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anyway you gonna have to
convince me with something else.
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Now of course and
Jesus himself said
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the devil doesn't come as
the devil he comes as Christ.
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Okay. And so he would come,
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like an angel of
life, as angel of life.
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He would not be cursing
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and swearing and
telling dirty jokes.
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Well, we know that,
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I mean I know that and I
think most people know that.
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But could he be telling us
some other things you know...
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Well I'm anxious
first to give specific.
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Well they are gonna have to
watch some of the other program
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because we're gonna
really get specific,
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but you know I got to thinking
to myself that this generation,
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and when I say this generation
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it maybe some of
us because you know,
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I think in the next program
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we're gonna talk
about the culture health,
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how the Christian
family relates to the culture.
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This generation is
accustomed to lies.
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Why do you say so?
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Well, could I... illustrate,
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what they illustrate I think.
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Do know advertising,
advertising is a lie.
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Now, you will say no that's
not right to say advertising,
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no not all
advertising is a lie...
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Okay, you better cover yourself.
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And by the way I
should say right now
00:17:47.30\00:17:48.51
that when you heard Kathy I talk
don't nickel and dime my words.
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Oh, no please.
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We might miss it here and there,
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we might even say it
wrong ones in a while.
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But we think that is as we
present some of the concepts
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that we want to all of
us be thinking together.
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We think we can do better.
We may not say it right always.
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But speaking of
advertising see here advertising
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comes along and it says
if you wanna be beautiful.
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This is what you have to do.
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This is what you have to
do, you have to dress this way.
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Is this is a deception?
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Then we need to tell
our families about it,
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our children about it.
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Well, because see basically
advertising is telling us
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if you will do this,
and if you will do that,
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if you will eat
this you will dress that,
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you will live here,
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you will have
this look on your face,
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you will do that
then you will be this,
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or it will
actually compliment us.
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Now, you know, we're
gonna do a program here
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in a few weeks
about dead, yes, yes.
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You know, we are
getting into dead, right.
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And I'm gonna bring
some of these invitations
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you know to take out
our credit card, yes.
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Have you ever
read those letters?
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And you read the fine print?
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Can you say the fine print?
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It will say, it will
say you are wonderful,
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because we are so proud of you,
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because we think you
are the greatest and you...
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And you are reading between...
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Well, no I'm gonna say
when the average person doesn't
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because he is goes have
sense in gets in more dead.
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In other words, in
other words I'm saying,
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I'm thinking we are
falling for the lies
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because for many families,
our situations are not getting
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better and better
but worse and worse.
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Yes, and it seems
like that would be obvious,
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but it isn't
always I suppose because
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more, and more people are
continuing to fall for it.
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Look at the home,
look at the home Kathy.
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Well, they are
some people waking up,
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but that we want
to reach the people
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who are
thinkers, who will think,
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who will consider this.
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This is what
we're trying to say.
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When we think of the
home, and I'm sorry you know,
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to be able to say
this and of course
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I don't have the
statistics here with me.
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But they are saying for example
in divorce in Christian homes,
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is nearly the
same, as the world as,
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in the world. Yes.
00:20:02.24\00:20:04.55
Now it was seem to
me that and as much as
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we've been we've
got special information,
00:20:06.63\00:20:09.79
that the Christian
home then would be,
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would not be suffering the same.
00:20:13.98\00:20:15.57
In the same
degree or level of it.
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So, some way we must
not, we either must be
00:20:18.68\00:20:22.33
letting falls
information coming in
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or the true
information is coming in,
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we're not
paying attention to it.
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It's obviously
they are happening.
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Have you
wondered, of course we are
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Seventh-day
Adventist and how thankful
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we are for the
Spirit of Prophecy?
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Amen, yes I'm.
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And you know,
some people these days
00:20:38.49\00:20:40.40
have trouble with
the Sprit of Prophecy.
00:20:40.41\00:20:41.59
I know, you know.
And they are saying
00:20:41.60\00:20:43.19
well you know the
Bible in the Bible only.
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And when
somebody says that to me,
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I will say it's
interpreted by who?
00:20:47.83\00:20:49.32
I said, you, myself.
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Oh no, no let me say
that because those who
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wrote the Bible
are not here. Right.
00:20:54.83\00:20:57.17
In other words Paul
wrote all of his epistles,
00:20:57.18\00:21:00.08
but he is not here to wrote,
to explain those what he meant,
00:21:00.09\00:21:04.08
so therefore we
interpret him. Yes, we have to.
00:21:04.09\00:21:08.04
So the Bible
that we use the Bible
00:21:08.05\00:21:10.19
and the Bible only, it's
as interpreted by somebody.
00:21:10.20\00:21:13.66
Right, ourselves or
whoever is we agree with.
00:21:13.67\00:21:16.69
That's the point, in
other words who is your guru.
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And so what I'm leading
up to is that I think God
00:21:19.97\00:21:22.69
was so gracious and so loving
00:21:22.70\00:21:26.10
in giving us the
Spirit of Prophecy
00:21:26.11\00:21:27.72
which would be a
divinely inspired commentary
00:21:27.73\00:21:31.90
because it's a jungle out there.
00:21:31.91\00:21:32.96
There is all things deceptions,
00:21:32.97\00:21:34.32
and all these
lies whirling around.
00:21:34.33\00:21:36.18
And of course have you
noticed that most everybody
00:21:36.19\00:21:40.94
in the spiritual world,
they are quoting the Bible.
00:21:40.95\00:21:46.07
Well, the Bible says this
and the Bible is called...
00:21:46.08\00:21:48.43
It's kind of popular
thing to do right now.
00:21:48.44\00:21:49.87
It's Biblizing, in other words
00:21:49.88\00:21:51.65
you can get a wild
thought in your mind
00:21:51.66\00:21:54.15
look in the scripture somewhere
find a text where it says,
00:21:54.16\00:21:56.33
find something that
fits, its out of the Bible.
00:21:56.34\00:21:57.93
So, I'm so thankful
for this Spirit of Prophecy
00:21:59.81\00:22:02.68
and yet I'm sad.
00:22:02.69\00:22:04.72
Because it guides us
through all the deception.
00:22:04.73\00:22:08.77
All these jungles, so
we don't have to wing it.
00:22:08.78\00:22:12.86
Or be blown with
everyone to doctrine.
00:22:12.87\00:22:14.58
Trial and error. Yes.
00:22:14.59\00:22:15.90
But the think that really
as the young people will say
00:22:15.91\00:22:18.29
blowing my mind
is that if I would,
00:22:18.30\00:22:20.47
you know, sit here
and say, well you know
00:22:20.48\00:22:23.89
dear Billy Graham we
respect, Billy Graham says
00:22:23.90\00:22:26.88
a wonderful author Max
Lucado who people respect.
00:22:26.89\00:22:29.90
If he says
everybody says oh that's amen,
00:22:29.91\00:22:32.22
that's wonderful,
Oh that's wonderful
00:22:32.23\00:22:33.55
we like what he
said, or it could be
00:22:33.56\00:22:35.97
Martin Luther or John
Wesley, but just as soon
00:22:35.98\00:22:39.19
you know in some of
our circles somebody says
00:22:39.20\00:22:41.68
well it says in
a Spirit Prophecy,
00:22:41.69\00:22:43.62
right sure and the Bible.
00:22:43.63\00:22:46.73
As if you can listen to anybody,
but that and that's painful.
00:22:46.74\00:22:52.65
I say I didn't come up in church
I wasn't raised what I mean
00:22:52.66\00:22:55.63
by coming up I was not raised
and really a Christian home.
00:22:55.64\00:23:00.75
And then when I discovered this
00:23:00.76\00:23:02.66
when I've
discovered Christianity
00:23:02.67\00:23:04.08
in Seventh-day Adventist
church and I discovered also
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that we had Spirit of Prophecy
to help us to understand
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and that we take
those wonderful principles
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that God us
given us in the Bible
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and then
because my mind is dull,
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and I'm not able to interpret it
because I have afraid of myself.
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I have looked at the
Spirit of Prophecy to help me,
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that's right, to
understand it better,
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and it's changed my life.
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See the Spirit of
Prophecy is not more Bible,
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it's not new Bible, it's
not instead of the Bible,
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it helps us to
understand the Bible.
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And I will tell
you, you know if you were
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to put out all
these great philosophers
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and historians
respected ministries
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and authors and
commentators on a table
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with the Spirit of Prophecy,
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I really like
the batting average
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out of Spirit of Prophecy. Amen.
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Feel so
consistent and so wonderful.
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Jesus told us or tells us
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that there is
gonna be deceptions.
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He just says get read for it.
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Right and he is warned us
at a time so that we may know.
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And yet here we are
being deceived some of us
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and how do we know
we've being deceived?
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Because you know,
in many Christian homes
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the Christian homes
you can't tell sometimes
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whether they are Christian
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or there are generic
they get very generic.
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That's right.
Go down the street.
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No line of
demarcations so to speak.
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You can't tell, see now
you can tell by looking.
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I think we're gonna
discuss this in another program.
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Should you be able
to tell a Christian,
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a person who is a Christian
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from one who is not
a Christian by looking.
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We're gonna argue you and
me, we are gonna argue yes.
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Should you be able
to tell a Christian home
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from a
non-Christian home by looking.
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You and I are gonna
argue yes, you should.
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But the only way
that we can actually
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survive can I
say in the last days,
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survive the
deceptions is going to be by
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taking you know
to the word of God
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and I believe especially
as Seventh-day Adventist.
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We would do well to buy
some stock ideologically,
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ideologically the
Spirit of Prophecy.
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I don't thing we
don't loose anything either.
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We gain it's everything
to gain and nothing to loose.
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Well absolutely.
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You know, let me say here
to you know there is questions,
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there is questions that
we can ask ourselves Kathy
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in scripture we
don't know the answer for.
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And I suppose... Yeah,
we discussed this before.
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I suppose even the
Spirit of Prophecy,
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well I'm gonna let that
go, I'm gonna let that go.
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There is I know enough for sure
that I don't need to hang up
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and go crazy about
what I don't know for sure.
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Because what that
does I think it makes me
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susceptible to
strange winds of doctrine.
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That anything might
come in, or like you said
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if you break it
down too small then what?
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And this will bring
up an interesting point
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is that if we have
to have the big picture.
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If you don't
have the big picture
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then that little piece comes in
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and you can think
that's the picture.
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You don't know
where to put the piece.
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Oh we've got to be so
careful in the last days.
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I'm not afraid I say this
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I probably you
know keep my words.
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Jesus can resurrect our
bodies, He has promised to do
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those that sleep in the
dust of the earth you know.
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But I think our greatest
concern in our homes now,
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we've got to identify
error, we've got identify error.
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And so we have to
know truth well enough or.
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You said it right,
because they tell me
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that those who work
with counterfeit money
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that you can't tell
counterfeit money unless
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you know what the real
money, what does it look like.
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By the way I was in
the bank the other day
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talking with someone
and I said well we've got
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the new money in
the American now.
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I said that took care
of the counterfeit money
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and they said
no, they said no, no.
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In fact she said you
know, there was somebody in here
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when somebody she
said we've got a $100 bill,
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it was a counterfeit,
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she said it went
to the pencil mark,
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it went through the
machine and it passed
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but you could tell it was wrong.
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See that's deception
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that's much more
serious than this little guy.
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And so spiritual
deception is more...
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Is more serious
than a $100 bill.
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More still. Oh, what will...
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Of course it is.
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But we have a
precious hope here.
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We will survive
thanks to the promise of God.
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So for the Christian family
in the family in the last days
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we've got this God's
word to keep us from deception
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and we need to use it
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and not be afraid
to standup for it.
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That's right.
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Well, it's already
over, how can that be?
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And your mouse is
going home with you.
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I know anyway here he is,
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saying goodbye
to all the people.
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Well, I want you to join us
again on Thinking About Home,
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we are going to
continue a series.
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Please don't think this is
anything we've done in the past.
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So, you stick with
us, and Dick you wanna
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pray for us as we go
out. I sure will, I sure will.
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Heavenly Father,
we're so thankful Lord that
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you knew what it would
be like in the last days
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and that you warned
this in advance to look out
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that there will be deceptions.
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Father, open our spiritual
eyes, open our spiritual heart.
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