Participants: Kathy Matthews, Richard O'Ffill
Series Code: TAH
Program Code: TAH000164
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00:30 Welcome to Thinking About Home. I'm Richard O'Ffill,
00:34 and I am filling in for our host which is Kathy Matthews. 00:38 And the reason I'm doing that is because 00:40 she is our guest today. 00:42 You do that funny. Welcome to the program. 00:45 You do that better than I do? 00:47 I have to explain it to the people, 00:48 otherwise they'd be all nervous and they say, 00:49 what ever happened to Kathy? I know, 00:51 I don't want you to think that I am gone, because I am not. 00:54 I'm really not. Anyway, it's so nice to 00:58 you know be able to do a program again together 01:00 and you and I have a good time, don't we? Yes, 01:02 I enjoy it very much. You know, I think we ought to tell 01:05 our viewing audience that you know what we do here 01:09 on the program is not to say the last word, 01:13 did I get the right. Right. 01:14 We don't have the last word to say. 01:17 And we might not even have the best word to say. 01:20 There might be a better way, but we do hope that 01:24 on Thinking About Home that we encourage ourselves to think, 01:29 that we need to be pressing on. We need to be doing better, 01:34 and so what we're going to do in the program today, 01:37 especially in the program today is to give some concepts 01:41 and other people might see it other way. Yes. 01:44 I think this is important that we start there,those of you 01:47 who are watching you might see it at a different way. 01:49 You might have a completely different point of view. 01:52 But at least you are hearing us talk about it, 01:54 and we hope that as we talk about it 01:56 that you will be thinking about it in the end, 01:58 that as we Think About Home that will be better parents. 02:01 Amen. Because the subject today, yes, is parenting. 02:03 Yes, it's parenting. Well, you know parenting is a big subject 02:09 and we can't possibly cover it all. And I had 02:12 the most terrible time trying come down to just a few things 02:15 that I can talk about. But if you know 02:19 I were in a course, I facilitate a course. Right. 02:22 And I've developed some of my own material. 02:26 You know you've got a lot of time and you got a lot of 02:28 Reports that you can build with parents. 02:30 I can't do that very well here. We only got a few minutes 02:33 and it aggravates me, it frustrates me. 02:35 You know those jokes they used to say when we were kids, 02:37 they'd say tell us all you know in two minutes. 02:39 Two minutes, I can't do that. 02:42 But it is true and as we talked before 02:43 that do you have seminars that you present, 02:45 because the subject of parenting is big on your heart. 02:49 It's big. And, so we're gonna talk about 02:52 some specific aspects of parenting. And but, anyway, 02:55 lets start out, parenting as it is on your heart. 02:58 Yes, and, I wanna talk about how I got started. 03:01 Yes, please do that. I want to get started and 03:02 helping and mentoring others about parenting. 03:06 But I have to talk about my own parenting 03:07 a little bit in the beginning. And, as I mentioned once 03:10 before I am the youngest of 12 children. 03:13 And so there was a big family 03:14 and there was a very strong sense of our father in the home. 03:18 There wasn't what you call really a Christian 03:21 aspect in our home, but there was a whole 03:23 lot of common sense it seemed like. Sure. 03:25 And when the time came that I became the Christian 03:29 and we were going to have child, 03:30 we had just studied the second coming of Lord 03:33 and we weren't gonna have children. 03:34 We had decided we weren't gonna have children. 03:35 Tom and I, probably about six weeks into that thought, 03:40 we were lying in bed one night and it was as if the same 03:43 subject about not having the child was on each mind. 03:47 And I just spoke out of the blue, you ever do with Betty 03:49 where were you've talked about subject a week ago. 03:52 I'm sure we do. And, then we bring it up. 03:53 I am sure we do. And, then she knows exactly 03:55 what you are talking about without going back 03:57 and talking about what it is. And, I just said 04:01 I don't know what it would like and he said 04:03 I don't know either and we both were thinking 04:05 about not having children. So we slipped out of bed, and knelt 04:11 beside the bed and we asked Lord, 04:14 the time is so short we feel. If you want us to have children, 04:16 because we've been married almost ten years at this point. 04:19 If you wanna us to have children 04:20 then you are going to have give us children, 04:22 and I could have a child by that time, but I didn't. 04:25 The very next possible time that I could have conceived a child 04:28 I did. After that prayer it was just six weeks or so and 04:33 and I was pregnant. And six or nine weeks or so and 04:37 I found out, then I found out very early. 04:39 So it was an amazing thing and I believe that God gave us, 04:44 a prayed for child. Absolutely. And so as it, 04:48 I was 28 by the time she came along and Tom was 31, 04:52 and seem to me like a lot of parenting was common sense, 04:57 though I had several sisters that was worried about me. 04:59 Because I was very social person and I had a business 05:02 at the time and I, they though I was not going 05:04 to make a very good mother. And, you know excuse me 05:06 for interrupting you know I don't know who made up 05:08 the word common sense, because it's so rare. 05:09 It's not very common, is that right? Go ahead. 05:13 Okay, well anyway, so we had our first daughter, 05:18 and I am, I have to admit that I wasn't a mother. 05:21 I didn't have any, I really wasn't a good mother 05:24 in the sense of my own standards for myself. Okay. 05:27 I wasn't a good mother in the sense 05:28 that I wanted to be out there in the social life, 05:32 still it was difficult for me to be at home. 05:35 It was difficult for me to just get away from business 05:37 and just stay and be a mother in the home. 05:40 Don't lose that thought, but in my generation 05:42 we didn't have that trouble, so you were 28 05:44 and just see a back in the old time of days. 05:48 When was that? We would have children almost 05:49 you know a year or so after we married. 05:53 And so, we didn't have this adjustment time 05:55 where you have to kind of psyche yourself up. Yeah. 05:57 And then change your life so drastically, 05:59 I can't remember in my married life 06:00 when I was the father, but there you were. 06:03 There I was and I, the Lord really convicted me 06:06 that I needed to be home with my daughter 06:08 and she was 14 months old by that time, 06:10 and it was difficult for me to let go of the work life. 06:14 And I, as I began to study and read 06:18 and for the next eight years after that it seemed like 06:21 I've observed studying Spirit of Prophecy 06:25 and the Bible like a sponge. And it became very obvious to me 06:30 that there was a lot of parents they just simply did not know 06:32 what to do with their children. And a lot of the things 06:35 that I was reading, my father had done with me, 06:38 some sample things. Of course. Such as, 06:41 who is in authority here? Well it was him, 06:45 and there was no question about it. 06:47 Now I am not talking about someone who had me 06:51 under their thumb, was harsh, some kind of dictatorship, 06:53 dictatorship. But there was no question 06:56 who was in authority, and that made things easier. 07:00 Because, the Lord has put a role in the family. 07:03 Really He has and I already knew that and I wasn't afraid 07:09 of the child. The Lord has assigned 07:10 the responsibility to get on. He had assigned it, 07:12 yes and we weren't afraid of our children 07:15 and we had some strong willed one, 07:20 so it was, it was something that had to be a jump ahead, 07:24 I had keep who I was. And I can't say that I didn't 07:28 make a lot of mistakes with some indulgences 07:30 and permissiveness and so forth. But after some studying 07:36 and some asking of people that I had a lot of respect for. 07:39 I began to realize what I needed to do as a parent. 07:42 All right. And mentoring others began to be something 07:46 that I wanted to do eventually. Because I've had to have some 07:49 experience under my belt. Which is what parenting is, 07:51 is mentoring, is mentoring our children, 07:52 is it not? Well it is, and but once they began to get 07:58 a little older and there began to be some comments 08:00 about you know, you just kind of happen like, 08:04 how did you get her to do that. I began to realize 08:07 that it didn't come easy in some folks home. 08:10 And, it wasn't just because I had a really great 08:13 little child to work with, that was not it at all. 08:16 I had a strong willed little girl. 08:17 And, but, she was pleasant and happy and, 08:22 so any how. In other words, the people were seeing 08:25 are you with... And make some comments. 08:29 And they are saying how is it that this little girl 08:30 seems to be so obedient. So,I just can, 08:32 I kind of came into it. And even I can't say 08:37 how did this little girl become so obedient, 08:39 because there were, there was the relationship of 08:42 how to get her to do what needed to be done 08:44 and it wasn't, it wasn't manipulation, 08:46 it was just an understanding. 08:47 No. And so I became interested in that, 08:51 and I have observed that a lot of parents were dealing with 08:55 a lack of common sense. They, they, especially 08:59 in the Christian realm, they tended to be, 09:02 I wanna be like Jesus. And, so therefore 09:06 they wanted to be very kind and tender and merciful. 09:10 And they were beginning to allow their children 09:12 to just run all over them. And they felt like 09:16 they needed to do this to be Christ like. 09:19 No, no, excuse me for coming in there, 09:21 because it occurs to me that there was a day 09:24 in which we would call this kind of parenting, 09:26 an indulgent parent. But now in this age, yes, 09:30 they say a kind, considerate.... A child centered parent, 09:33 is child centered. Alright. But it used to have another name. 09:36 Permissive kind. Yeah, it was a permissive, 09:39 indulgent parent. Yes, right. Yeah, now you are not saying 09:42 that we shouldn't be kind and... Not at all, and, that's why 09:45 I can't address everything that I want to address. 09:47 So, I've to zero in on something. 09:50 Go ahead. And, but I wanna, you know the parents today, 09:55 there is a multitude of material in psychology 09:58 that parents could go to. But, a lot of it does not, 10:04 nearly all of it, does not really have 10:06 biblical principles in it. We have either one side 10:10 or the other or something that's completely off the ball. 10:13 And I think secular parenting teaches either control 10:19 or self-actualization and I would just say that 10:23 the former. Often are two extreme positions. Yes, 10:26 they are! The former would had to do with some, 10:30 the harsh authoritarian, 10:32 or making the parents wishes supreme. 10:35 And the latter would have do with the child's wishes 10:39 being supreme. You know Kathy it occurs to me that many times, 10:44 we seem to be confronted with, 10:47 and I think we have an expression, 10:48 we're the lesser of the evils. In other words somebody 10:49 will come to you and say of which you think we ought to be, 10:52 should we be this or this, yes. When the fact 10:54 is we should neither, neither, we should be something else. 10:57 And I think that's what I hear you saying. 11:00 There are two extremes, and a person says well, 11:03 if I've got be a Dictator or let the child develop itself, 11:07 right, right. I'll let the child develop itself. 11:08 But that really isn't the option that the scripture 11:10 would refer us to. Well, no and yet there is a blend of 11:13 discipline and warm communication can work together 11:17 and I believe that's what the Bible presents to us, 11:21 neither fully one side, or the other. 11:23 Now, I would like to say too that having been to some 11:26 of the places that I've been, I see and when we were doing 11:29 property management, what I see is not just, 11:32 not just harsh or indulgence. What I see often times 11:37 is indulgent, indulgent, indulgent, indulgent, 11:41 then explosion. Okay. And then harsh you know... 11:45 Going from one extreme to the next. Oh, yes, 11:47 and just until hostility develops between 11:50 you and your child and that's when parents are read to pull 11:53 their hair out, they don't know exactly what to do. 11:56 Well, where do we begin? What is the best thing 11:58 in parenting? Its God's word. It's got be in God's word 12:04 and I think it, I think well haven't we always done, 12:07 isn't that what we used to do in authoritarian, 12:09 wasn't that God's word. Now, now, hold that just a second, 12:12 because it occurs to me and I don't wanna be disrespectful. 12:16 But you know you can make the Bible say about 12:18 anything you want to. Yes. And I read a term one time 12:21 is called bibilize. See, I think it's possible to take a concept 12:28 that's really not in harmony with the word of God. 12:32 Go find some little text for it some place, 12:34 you know sort of out of context, it doesn't fit the picture. 12:37 And impose it and say well, here is the Bible text for that. 12:39 When the truth is, it's not within the Bible principle. 12:42 But it maynot be a Bible principle, 12:46 and I think this is important that we address this. 12:50 Because not everything that has the word 12:53 Bible painted on it, right, is necessarily following 12:56 a biblical principle. Biblical principle, 12:58 that's right. And I think in the past 13:00 when everybody said, do it or else, and felt 13:04 that was the Bible way. It took a portion of, 13:09 how I can I say this without being misunderstood. 13:12 I don't think we've truly seen the depth of biblical principle, 13:16 or biblical modeling of parenting shown yet. 13:20 I don't think we've really seen it, 13:21 not yet but not often. And when that happens 13:24 in our heart or we need it to be happening in our heart, 13:29 a good blend of discipline and warm communication. 13:34 But I wanna, I wanna go to a scripture Dick, 13:38 and it's in Deuteronomy 6. And I think this is where 13:42 we have to begin. And it starts at Deuteronomy 6 verse 4, 13:46 And it says Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one God, 13:51 one Lord, And thou shalt love the Lord thy God 13:53 with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, 13:56 and with all thy might, And these words, 13:58 which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart. 14:02 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, 14:06 and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, 14:09 and when thou walkest by the way, 14:10 and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 14:14 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, 14:17 and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. 14:19 Now, I've a question. Who is it He's talking to? 14:23 Make it easy. It is, it's pretty easy, 14:25 who is he talking to? Let me guess, 14:26 who is He talking to? It sounds like 14:28 he's talking to parents. He is, well He said Hear, 14:31 Israel. Yeah. Okay, they are the responsible 14:33 ones listening doesn't mean the youth weren't there, 14:36 the young people weren't there. But he's talking to the parents. 14:38 He is talking to parents. And do you remember 14:42 what he said where should it be? No, I didn't know, 14:46 of course our viewing audience, they weren't with us 14:49 when we were kind of talking, you know working up to this. 14:51 Yes. So, I know all the right answers to this, 14:53 you know so they won't think I'm smarter or something. 14:56 I'm hearing... It's pretty simple though. 14:58 I'm hearing this text say that is being addressed 15:01 to parents and it's saying that the word of God should be 15:05 in our own hearts. Yes. It's got be in our own hearts. 15:08 Yeah. And I think that where we're going to go is 15:11 that maybe it's possible, this is kind of 15:14 on the negative side for parents to be trying to teach 15:18 their children something that isn't in their own heart. 15:20 Yes, exactly. But he is saying teach it to them 15:24 he said in thine own hearts and then he said how, 15:27 teach to them how? You have to help me 15:31 out with that, I grew a blank. Diligently, 15:33 that's right. Okay is that... And diligently mean 15:36 just intentionally, intentionally, this would be 15:38 a word that we would use these days. Right, 15:40 how? We use the word diligent, when we would say, 15:43 you know you got be intentional about that. Yes, 15:45 that kind of a replacement word now but diligent, 15:48 we don't say as much. Right. But to teach it to them 15:50 diligently means intentional. And it means obviously 15:53 that you need to know something about what you're doing 15:56 and you can't just assume a child's is gonna grow up 15:58 with your values, or on its own, and be a child 16:04 that's going to accept Christian values. 16:07 It simply isn't. It's got to be taught to them diligently. 16:09 And, so I would, if we're under the hand of God. 16:14 And it's in our heart then... Lets see, 16:20 because this program is so small, 16:23 so short in time, I've to start somewhere. 16:27 So, after it's in our heart, I just would like to 16:31 read a couple of things about, 16:33 that I, out of a favorite book of mine. 16:39 And it's about training and not just telling a child 16:46 what to do. And I had a tendency just to tell them 16:49 what to do. And I had to learn much more about training 16:53 a child what to do. And training takes intentional 16:57 and diligent effort. Okay, and it says 17:00 here on page 38 of the book. You can see all my goodies here 17:03 I've marked all kinds of things. Okay, a Child Guidance. 17:05 And the book is called Child Guidance, 17:08 and it was a favorite of mine, there has been a lot of material 17:11 out now that can match this, but most do not. 17:15 It's not better then that. It's not any better than this. 17:17 And right here we're talking about on page 38, 17:21 it says many fathers and mothers seem to think that 17:22 if they feed and clothe their little ones, 17:25 and educate them according to the standard of the world, 17:27 they have done their duty. They are too much occupied 17:30 with business or pleasure to make education 17:34 of their children the study of their lives. 17:36 They do not seek to train them, so that they will employ 17:39 their talents for the honor of their Redeemer. 17:41 Solomon did not say, 17:43 "Tell a child the way he should go, 17:46 and when he is old, he will not depart from it." 17:48 But, "Train up a child in the way he should go, 17:52 and when he is old, he will not depart from it." 17:54 So training to me says that, I need to address 17:59 the attitudes of the heart. All right. I'm not just asking 18:03 them merely to behave. Now, do I want good behavior? 18:06 Of course. Do I expect the child to become 18:08 reverend and respectful, and that doesn't come naturally. 18:12 So yes, I want good behavior. But, I want to say first 18:21 that child training, if you do not address the heart, 18:22 you've missed it. Okay. Okay, now we've talked about this 18:27 little before we got started. 18:31 Addressing the attitudes of the heart 18:34 takes moral reasoning. 18:38 Can you reason morally with a two year old? 18:44 Do you know I would just say to our viewers 18:46 when Kathy and I... And somebody might said yes, 18:48 my child, you can do that. I told Kathy that 18:51 I've an experience for this. Because Betty, 18:55 before the birth of our first child Cindy. Yes. 18:59 Read this book Child Guidance, and something popped out, 19:04 was about reasoning with children. 19:06 Yes, and go ahead. And of course, and of course, 19:09 of course we must reason with our children. 19:10 Yes. But I think that what we're gonna go in the program 19:13 now is that, is that when a child is first born. 19:17 In other words, you got to have something 19:18 to reason with. Yes, you do. 19:19 Can you reason with a two year old? 19:21 And, so, I think that if we, if we... 19:24 I think we kind of got ahead of ourselves, 19:26 because I think Betty began to reason with Cindy. 19:30 And she reasoned with her to the place 19:31 where a little two year old like you said, 19:33 felt that if she was given a good reason 19:35 for the little two year's old mind, 19:36 she didn't have to do it. And I think that you got 19:39 problem with that. You do. Well, I hope you do. 19:42 I do, I do. And there is, and there is certainly 19:46 reason for it. A child does not have the experience, 19:49 they don't really have the moral, 19:51 the capacity to reason at those early ages. 19:53 No. I'm not talking about the possibility of some prodigy. 19:57 I'm talking about the average child. Right. 19:59 The average child cannot do this. 20:00 Now we will read another couple of things. Okay. 20:02 Out of Child Guidance, page 82, it says begin 20:06 the Teaching Early - Obedience to parental authority 20:10 should be inculcated, what is that? 20:14 Just get it into their heads. Yes, but I was fascinated 20:17 with that word, when I first read it 20:18 several years ago, so I looked up 20:19 in the dictionary. Okay. It means to make a path. 20:22 All right. You have to make a path. 20:24 Now, with all that we know about brain function and dendrites 20:28 and neurons, and pathways. You have to, 20:32 you have to help them with disarmament and wisdom. 20:35 It has to be a path in their frontal lobe, 20:39 so to speak. So, we need to inculcate from when? 20:43 From babyhood, from babyhood. Now, we're not talking about 20:47 the five or six year old. We're still talking about 20:50 the younger age. So, they're just starting out. 20:52 Training, it says, obedience to parental authority. 20:56 Now, I'm gonna go down just a little bit further, 20:57 still talk about reasoning. Okay. And the title 21:01 to this little section is, Before Reason Is Developed, 21:04 one of the first lessons a child needs to learn 21:07 is the lesson of obedience. Before he is old enough 21:11 to reason, he may be taught to obey. 21:14 Now many, before we were talking about a moment ago. 21:18 You wanna reason too early, well what does that 21:20 make out of the parent? The parents' almost 21:23 asking permission, almost asking the child 21:25 and say would you mind obeying me, 21:28 would you do me a favor? Yes, because they're, 21:31 because many Christian parents want to be as Christ 21:34 like as possible, they mistake their Christ likeness... 21:37 Oh boy, I hope you don't take and pick my words apart. 21:43 There is so much to this, that I just cannot get 21:46 everything I like to in. But because parents want 21:50 to reason when a child too soon, 21:53 they forget that the first lesson is obedience 21:57 and they try to reason and coax and plead, 22:00 and then become threatening repeating parents. 22:04 And then explosion happens, see. 22:07 So, now let me read a little bit more. 22:09 It says, few parents begin early enough 22:12 to teach their children obedience. 22:13 The child is usually allowed to get two or three years 22:17 the start of its parents. Who forbear to discipline it, 22:22 thinking it is too young to learn to obey. Alright. 22:26 Okay, so, we wanna address the attitudes of the heart, 22:30 but we want to do that in an age appropriateness. Okay. 22:34 So, we start with our parenting first lesson is obedience. 22:39 Now, there is a first, there is a thing 22:45 that we need to learn as parents. 22:48 How do I get from... to there from here? 22:50 Yes, right. And one of the... 22:53 because I wanted to zero in on one little something 22:55 that I could give is, if a parent wants to be consistent, 23:02 or if a parent wants to teach obedience, 23:04 then they need to learn to be consistent. Okay. 23:06 Of course we already talked about being in your heart, 23:08 kindness. Right, right. 23:10 But a little thing is, if you would learn to help 23:15 the child to do first time obedience, 23:18 not just first lesson is obedience. 23:21 But if you would do first time obedience that means what? 23:26 When if I'm asking the child to do something, 23:28 then I don't allow myself to get to the point of hostility. 23:32 If the child is not obeying, when you ask them to do 23:35 and if it's within reason I mean, 23:37 I'm not talking about every little thing. 23:40 And its in reason you've asked them 23:42 then teach them to obey the first time you asked. 23:46 Then you can avoid a great deal of becoming indulgent 23:50 and becoming too permissive, and becoming hostile 23:53 because they didn't obey you. Just one little thing, 23:57 teach first time obedience. And that just going back 24:02 to the thing that says, because you know, 24:06 because I've asked you, you need to learn to obey me. 24:10 Now, I see a little a smirk on you. 24:13 No, no, because I remember my dad, 24:16 and you know he would say because I would say why. 24:19 Then I'm not talking about a little one, yes, 24:20 and we are talking early start year. 24:22 I'm talking about an early start, an early start; 24:24 we are not talking about what to do when you 24:26 are later on necessarily. But I can remember, 24:28 I can remember as a little boy, I say why, because I said so. 24:32 Well, no. But I don't object to that, 24:34 because I think that's consistent that, 24:36 that we must train up our children to be obedient. 24:41 You see some people will even argue 24:43 in the later on into Christian life. 24:45 Well, you know God doesn't expect 24:46 us to obey unless we understand. 24:49 And I would, I would argue that I don't think 24:52 we are going to ever, I don't think we're ever going 24:54 to understand until we obey. And that's what I hear 24:57 you saying Kathy, that if we are going to 25:00 teach the child how to reason. 25:02 We are talking about moral values. 25:04 Yes. Then they have to start with obedience, 25:07 not with the reason, I think that's what you are saying. 25:08 That's right, that's where we have to start 25:10 and you know our time is almost gone 25:12 and I've got nowhere. That's because you know 25:14 this is a seminar that will probably last for five nights. 25:17 You will, yes actually when I'm facilitating a seminar, 25:20 that last 18 weeks. And, now I use other material, 25:24 I have used some good material by some friends 25:27 that I feel like matches what we get from the Bible 25:29 and Spirit of Prophecy. And I incorporated more things. 25:33 But you know because I've had little opportunity, 25:37 I hope people will give me the benefit of the doubt, 25:39 there are, there so many other things that we can move to. 25:42 Well, Kathy, what I've heard you say 25:44 in this program and as we mentioned 25:48 you know you did lay down all the reasons, 25:51 read all the books. But I think the appeal 25:53 is lets don't be afraid to teach our children to obey. 25:57 To obey us, right. And, we do that because 26:02 God told us to do. The first thing that he asks 26:05 of us is to obey. The first thing we ask 26:07 of our children is to obey, and obviously I think 26:09 you've already ruled out. Are we gonna do like dictators? 26:12 No, we're gonna do it like this? No... 26:17 It has to be in our heart. It's in our heart, 26:19 it has to be has to be Christ like in our heart. 26:21 Now the child might, might not always want to follow along, 26:25 but probably the biggest favor we do to our children 26:29 is in teaching them to obey. Yes. 26:31 That's what I'm hearing you say. I want to clear up something 26:33 before we are going into our prayer and that is, 26:37 at the right time, we need to give the 26:39 moral reasons why so. Of course. 26:41 We can go into that some other time, 26:43 but because they need a moral warehouse. 26:46 They need something to relate to, 26:48 so that when they're not around mother and daddy 26:50 that they can obey from their heart, 26:52 but that's later... From a principle that they've learned. 26:54 From a principle that they've learned. 26:55 So, its not just do it, it's just because I said so, 26:58 so don't go away thinking I am talking about that. 27:02 Well, no and I didn't hear that. I think what you've talked about 27:06 is how should we start our children, 27:09 and what should we start them with. 27:11 And now, let's start them with the obedience. Right. 27:13 And from there they have sanctified reason. Right. 27:16 And don't be afraid to be parents. 27:18 No... Not at all. Well, let's pray, 27:21 for us as parents, yes, for those who are 27:23 watching our program. Okay. Heavenly Father, 27:26 we are thankful that you shared with us, 27:28 that we could be part in the creation 27:30 process of our children. And Lord that you've said to us 27:35 that we should train the children 27:36 and we should train them from our hearts. 27:38 We pray first of all that you will be in our hearts. 27:42 Lord, teach us as parents to obey your will, 27:45 to delight to do your will. And then Lord, 27:48 may we someway, somehow, through the Holy Spirit, 27:51 within our hearts and in our homes, 27:53 may we be able to convey this 27:55 joy of obedience to our children that they might grow... |
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