Hello, welcome to
"Thinking About Home."
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This is Richard O'Ffill
filling in for our host,
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Kathy Matthews,
and we will do the best
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we can with the program
today with me as the host.
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And so I need to get on
and introduce our guest.
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And our guest today
is host Kathy Matthews.
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Now, no wonder I am
filling in for Kathy Matthews.
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Yes, Thank you
very much that you come.
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I am thankful
that you will do this.
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Welcome to
"Thinking About Home."
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Well, thank you. How
did I do? You did fine.
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Well, I didn't do nearly
as well as you usually do.
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And who is that
sitting besides us today?
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This is our daughter Rachel.
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She is our younger daughter.
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Hi, Rachel. Hi.
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Welcome to
"Thinking About Home."
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Of course,
you've been here before.
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Yes. Only except that
there is more of her now.
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I know, Isn't she is growing?
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She is taller, yes.
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She is taller and isn't
it a thrill? Isn't a thrill?
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Yes, it breaks
my hearts sometimes.
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You wait till you
get to be a grandmother
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like I am a grandfather.
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Maybe the Lord
will come before that.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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So she is got a
guitar over there
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and somewhere in
the program today,
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she is going to
sing a song that she...
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Wrote... Did you write?
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Yes, I did.
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Well, we are looking
forward to hearing that
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when the time
come. Thanks. Right.
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In our program today, we
carry on from the program
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that we did last time.
Our subject is hospitality.
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And, you know, they
have the spiritual gifts,
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what are they
called them "Inventories".
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I suppose. That they give
in the churches these days.
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And though I don't think
that hospitality is listed
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in scripture in
first Corinthians
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as particularly a
gift of the spirit.
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No. It's definitely in
the spiritual gifts inventory.
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Yes. Because
there is no doubt that,
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that, that some
are really hospitable,
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and I was saying
in the other program,
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look you are from Arkansas.
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Both you and I from the South
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and we talked about
the Southern Hospitability.
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Yes. But...Yes.
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But... we are not just
going to be talking about
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any kind of hospitality.
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This is not Miss Manners
and this is not Emily Post.
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But it's hospitality in
the context... Of soul winning.
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Of soul winning, of caring. Yes.
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Of caring, of
really giving ourselves
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and before we give a little
recap of the story you told us
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in the last program,
I have got to tell you
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about a Pastor I heard one
time that he was trying to help
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his church to be hospitable.
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And so when he would
stand up during the announcement
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time he would
say, I wanna apologize
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to all of our
visitors were here today.
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You will probably go away
from church with your hands
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so sore because so many
people will, you know, will...
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Join your hands. Just
got to hurt your hands.
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And then in another
week he would apologize.
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He would say, you
know you're gonna think
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that word is so uncoordinated
here that we are just,
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we don't have it all
together because you will
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probably going to
get invited to go home
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and eat with
somebody five or six times.
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Well, that's great though,
trying to encourage the people
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in a positive way and
there was a time in which
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I was going to church as
a visitor was to be asked
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invited to someone's home.
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Right. Now we are...
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And that should be done.
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And, you know, I think
that probably often these days
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we are talking
about what "Potluck". Yes.
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I want to know who
ever made that name?
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I don't know. Potluck!
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I like fellowship
dinner. Fellowship dinner!
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What about vegetarian cuisine?
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I don't know. Is that
being said now, is it?
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Oh! When I heard
someone say that, you see,
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and so you say the dessert
and please stay after church
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we will be having
"vegetarian cuisine".
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Really. Well, anyway,
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whatever it takes,
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whatever it takes to
make the people feel welcome.
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But as we began to talk,
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as we begin to
think about hospitality,
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in another program
you told us an experience
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that you had and you tagged
the word Hospitality on it
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and it is a concept that's
very much deeper and wider.
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Well, I think a lot of
people will probably call it
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Evangelism in a lot of ways,
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but it is a part of
Evangelism that requires
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just open our homes. Go ahead.
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Well, which is exactly
what you did and it's not just
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opening your home
to have somebody to end
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with eat because you told
us a story of when you and Tom
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were apartment managers
and now there is a couple,
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and remember you said that,
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I said they looked weird
and I forgot the word. Do you?
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Different. Different!
What about that Rachel?
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Rachel would have
said weird. And so...
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Umm...Frightening!
Yeah. Frightening.
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Frightening a bit of her.
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And you are talking
about that they were really
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almost another culture.
They were from another culture.
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And they moved in and how
you had them into your home.
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Yes. And you
began to work with them.
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I don't know if we
would say, you know,
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you extended
your family to them.
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Yes, we did. We
extended our family to them.
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We didn't just hold them
up in prayer and say, hi,
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how are you doing? In
passing, it was important to me
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to win and you test
for green lights, I think.
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You test for
throwing out information
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and seeing if a
person is interested.
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If they are not interested
I can't go there at least
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not there now.
And these people were,
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they were just
so hungry and needy,
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and they needed someone that
was our age level in their life.
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They had not had that.
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They had not had a good example
of role model necessarily.
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They just did not
get what they need.
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It's the typical problem
today. Everybody is too busy.
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Most of the children go
off and raise themselves
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then they grow up.
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And there is this
hunger that's inside of them.
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This for Christ but
they need the family.
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They need the family of God.
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And they need a home to
show them, what is this?
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You and Tom, you know,
you were at time your friends,
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at times you were parents,
it sounds to be like to them,
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at times you were referees. Yes.
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You were saying that
they would actually come
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to your house and
everything short of...
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Yes, physical. Physical,
they were just hollering
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at each other and...
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Well, and well and we
would try to keep it down
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to where they could communicate.
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But then we want to go
on in our program today
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and discuss some of the
principles that were involved
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and some of the benefits of...
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Well, in some of the things
it does not seem like a benefit.
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It's a blessing but
it doesn't seem like it
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when you are going through.
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But this story
had a happy ending.
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I think we ought to start there,
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that this couple
actually changed their lifestyle
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completely and can we say so
they lived happily ever after.
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No. No, I can't say
that. They did come to Baptism.
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This is what they wanted
but that's not where it stopped.
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It just could not stop there.
It wasn't all of the sudden.
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Everything was okay in
their life because it wasn't.
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They needed to have a
continuing family situation
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in their life and
I supposed the things
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that I might call a blessing.
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I didn't always call blessing
not when I was feeling it.
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Especially when you
look at open up to your homes
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and the times and the hours
it takes for two-three times
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a week and when you are tired
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and you need to rest or
you would like to get away
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on your own and you know
that there are more in need
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the new arm. And you know that
inviting them into your home
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is what's going to keep
the interest level going.
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If you drop them for
very long or if you say,
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well I need to take
care of me now for a while,
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some people can't
handle that they need to be
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continue to be cared for. And
it becomes very inconvenient.
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You know the reason
I am naming these all
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because we need to think about
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what it's going to take
out of us to be a blessing.
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But it will
become a blessing to us.
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May I say you
something at this point
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because a moment ago I
asked you the question,
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and they lived
happily ever after,
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and you suggested no there
is a kind of follow up. Yes.
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But yet you use this
soul winning expression
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and so you are saying here
to equal they were Baptized
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but it's required follow
up and it popped into my mind,
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an experience I had one
time where a lady was telling me
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that before she was
Baptized she was getting
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a lot of this hospitality
and I don't mean to be
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disrespectful
but she was saying;
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before I was
Baptized the minister visited
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me everyday. Yes.
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And she said, you know,
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sadly I haven't seen
him sense and of course,
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in her case at least
when she was Baptized
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then her whole world
began to crash in around.
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She begins to loose friends,
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her husband
begins to react to her.
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Really needed somebody.
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And she needed
somebody more than ever
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and I thought to
myself, and I don't think
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you meant this that if
we see hospitality strictly
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as soul winning and
then when the soul is one
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then you can drop out.
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No, I didn't mean that at all.
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But you don't mean
that at all because
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what I am
hearing is say is that,
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is that hospitality in
its wider sense is on going,
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it's daring to be
involved in an ongoing way
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and giving yourself
to other people. Right.
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But this has its pros and cons.
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I should say pros and cons.
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It has its positives
and negatives. Yes, it does.
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I think you are going
over showing that, right.
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And that's where we are
going to some of that now
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and I would like to, I
would like to move aside
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of our comfort zone.
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The ministry does not have
to be dealing one never visits.
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We need to be
visiting and so forth.
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But we also need to
be bringing people home
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to our own homes.
And this is why I keep;
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I want to keep
hammering this home.
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We need to open
our homes to people.
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And yes, we need
to be careful and yes,
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we need to
understand what we believe
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so that we don't get
taken in by other influences
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but if we bring
people on our own grounds,
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needy people can
see if we are modeling
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Christ like character.
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If it's something that we
are surrendering to own homes,
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others need to see it.
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And this is not
pride or showing off.
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This is working in
Christ vineyard, in your home.
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And so it's Evangelism,
but it's a Evangelism
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in the realm of being
hospitable, very hospitable.
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Do you know it
occurs to me when you say
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that because you keep
talking about giving of yourself
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and you know not to be
disrespectful to the value of
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the printed page which is
of course, very, very powerful.
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Sometimes when people
began to have problems
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they'll say here is a
book. Go, read the book.
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Yes, yes. Read the book.
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And it's very easy to do that.
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But lots of people
don't read. That's right.
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You know, and
lots of people do read
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but this couple didn't.
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Well, the wife did
but the young man did not.
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He needed visual.
He needed tactical.
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Well, he needed to see
something. That's right.
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He needed somebody
to put an arm around.
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He needed to see something.
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He needed to
become flesh and blood.
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And he, yes, and
they always responded.
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They were very observant,
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very observant, bright people.
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But I wanted to go
through come some of the things
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that so get ready for a
change because it's a blessing
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but it can be also very
difficult while you are doing.
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I talked about the
time, the hours that it takes.
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It's
inconvenient. You may have to,
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now we took off work.
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There were times
that we took off work.
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The people that
nurtured us to the church,
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they took off work at times
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and they lost
income in other works.
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The Good Samaritan,
he lost time and money...
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Yes, that's
right, time and money.
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And so there are
also late nights.
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There is your time again,
but time in most specific way.
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There maybe late
nights when you need to get up
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in the morning and go
to work and you feel like,
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huh I am too
tired to handle this.
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But I have something
there is more necessary
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to take care for the sake
of the Lord and their sake.
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Rachel, you are, you know,
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you were younger when
all these was happening.
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Do you remember this
thing that was going on
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where your folks
were helping this couple?
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Yeah, I remember it.
Like really, often times,
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they come over
and halfway through,
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not even halfway
through I had to go upstairs
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in my bedroom and I stayed,
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I just had to stayed
up there the rest of time
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because of
subject matter and things.
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You know I just couldn't
stay there and listen to it,
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and they would
be up until eleven,
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sometimes midnight,
sometimes later just trying,
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my parents trying to mediate
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and the couple just
kind of passing it out.
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Passing it out
that was to put mildly.
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Yeah, right. And
giving them a chance,
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they just giving them a
chance in another person's home
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and we felt like we had
to allow some of this stuff
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to be gotten out of
the way before we could get
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to scripture and we
talked about some of that
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and it's pressing and some
people just can't handle that.
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I am not saying
that this is for...
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For everybody. This type
of thing is for everyone.
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Or is it always
has a happy ending?
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No, it doesn't.
No, it doesn't always
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have a happy ending.
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It could have
turned out in another way.
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Right, and your
heart can be broken
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and you can feel like did
all kinds of things wrong but,
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you know, the Lord is
teaching us as we go along.
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So I am just encouraging
people to really open
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their homes and don't be
afraid that when the Lord
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gives you that
golden opportunity to you
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with the persons
start nurturing them,
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start bringing them in the home,
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and some will be
different than others.
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There maybe some
who don't need that
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and merely
inviting them home to dinner
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would be the only
thing that they need,
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but this was different.
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These types of
people were different.
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They had a lot of
lack of coping skills
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and so let's move on
the late nights, go ahead.
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Before we go on, you know,
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I've got to tell our
viewers that I've said to Kathy
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when she tells us a story,
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I said no Kathy we don't
all have to do this, do we?
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Is this, I mean,
we've got to do this.
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Are we not hospitable?
And she said, no, no.
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She is telling us,
you are telling us a story
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and it's a wonderful
story and a happy story
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but obviously I think,
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I think what we
were trying to learn
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and to be inspired in
these program is that we need
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to be giving more of
ourselves appropriately,
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yes, according to
who we are as the Lord
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puts it in our hearts
and I think don't you think
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we need to be
praying for compassion.
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I don't know
how you can do this.
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Rachel, how did
you look at to get
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such a compassionate mother?
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Oh, no, no. Don't
build, don't build me up.
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Don't build me up because
when we were talking about
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really our human nature,
we are talking about times
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when I wanted to say
and Tom wanted to say
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and Rachel wanted to say, oh,
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tonight do we have to this again
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or can you get
out of this somehow?
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And then the realization of,
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no that's not
the right attitude.
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I need to help them.
And I am not talking about
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codependency or
strange rescuing like
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we've got to
rescue every cat and dog
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that comes along if
you understand what I mean.
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What were you praying because,
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I am going to play
the devil's advocate
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for just a minute
because when we hear
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these kinds of stories,
things pop into our minds
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and say well that
would be dangerous,
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you know, we will
hear that one. Yes.
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You know that will be
dangerous or you know,
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I could get into trouble
or are they going to sue me
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or something. You
must have been praying
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about this and
as we pray sometimes
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the Lord open
doors and close doors,
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it must have been
all the indications
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of doors were opened.
These people were responding.
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They were. They were responding.
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Yes there were. Often
we did the other program
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I couldn't help
but think, this was not
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what it appeared because
if this had been getting worse
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and worse and worse, I am
sure it had its ups and downs.
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Yes, it did. But
yet you could see that
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this young couple was responding
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and this was
softening your heart
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and Rachel could
must have, you know,
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thought well this
is worth of trouble
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I go up to my room, but
that's worth the trouble.
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Well but it also,
we're gonna get into
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a little bit of how
it effects your children
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other than just
maybe negative because
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it will also inspire them.
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It can also inspire them to
pray for others which means,
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I've got to get
outside of myself.
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I can't just think of how
I feel about the situation.
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What is it the
Christ would have me do here
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for their needs? And you know
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this is not the only
time that we've had people
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in our home. And not everybody
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was as needy as this couple.
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We've had young single people
who have come into our home.
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They spent weekends.
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They became
like adopted sisters.
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Ingrid! And people who
just wanted a home life
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for a little
while. Some who were just
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like I said the mere
dinner, but let's move on here.
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It teaches us as coping skills,
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we needed to help them
learn some coping skills.
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We needed to help
them learn time management,
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which means that we
had to come up with a way
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to do it better. I
was going to say that
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I think you were the ones
that were learning these things.
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Exactly! Well, they
become a blessing to you
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because it's
developing your character
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and it took time
away from our family
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but we also had to be
able to take time together
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apart from this. So we didn't,
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we didn't tried to
forget ourselves entirely in it.
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But it does
demand things of you.
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It's intentional. It
does demand things of you.
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It may cause
you emotional drain.
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It's going to, don't say may.
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Yes, you may
want to quit I said,
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but for the love of
Christ you continue on.
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Right it can strains
us. It can strains us,
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which develops in you
the character attributed
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tenaciousness
and the right things.
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Tenacity, which you know
becomes more self disciplined.
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It requires you to
be more of an example
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because the Holy
Spirit works on your heart
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and mind that says what
is that I want them to see
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in my life. How do I
want to represent Jesus here?
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And it requires you to,
the fruit of the Spirit,
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there is more of
Christ in you or the patience,
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the long
suffering, the endurance,
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the tenderness that requires
you when maybe you with snap
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but you don't want to do
that because you don't want
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to misrepresent Jesus,
and it develops in you,
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your own faith by
reciprocal influence
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because you are
speaking your faith,
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you want to live your
faith and so therefore it makes
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you stronger in your own faith.
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I am sure. Well Jesus
himself is more blessed
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to give into His
seeds. Yes. He do.
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And this generation is
about, is about taking.
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And you are talking
about the flip on that.
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Its about giving. Yes Giving.
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About giving of
oneself. Yes, it is.
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Even in our nastiness,
even in our simple nature's
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the Lord can make a
great blessing out of it.
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And polish us, so they
were not quite so nasty
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and were not quite so...unkind.
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Now is this our queue where
you introduced a little song,
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you know, like they used
to say on the radio programs,
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before we go on folks now
we're gonna have little song
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or something like. Yeah, almost.
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Yeah, we are because
I wanted Rachel to sing
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something that she composed
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and then but let me give
you or do you want to give
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a little background on
how it, this is a skip ahead.
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Now this is three years beyond.
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And they lived in another state
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and we are not quite as close.
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That chapters. That
chapters kind of close,
00:19:08.39\00:19:10.97
but we keep in
close touch because
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they need that touch.
They need that family.
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The mother of the girl wasn't,
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did not take
kindly to her becoming
00:19:19.24\00:19:21.62
a Seventh-Day
Adventist Christian
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and she claims the
scripture of the Lord
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will give me a family,
the Lord will take me up,
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and so we were still
quite close, very close.
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They have now an
eighteenth month old baby,
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a little baby
boy. His name is Avon.
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And he is like
my first grandson.
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I was going to say this,
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beginning to sound like grandma.
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It is. He is a sweetheart.
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And so how does
the song fit into this?
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Well, go ahead. You
want to talk about it.
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Sure. Mom was talking
on the phone to the girl
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and they had been
talking about struggles
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that they had been having,
00:19:53.51\00:19:54.48
things that had
been going on their life,
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and I went outside and I
had just something playing
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over my head. There
was just almost retelling
00:20:01.11\00:20:03.67
a story and a song. Okay.
00:20:03.68\00:20:05.15
And so I came in and
I picked up my guitar
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and it was just like
it all fell together.
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You know, the words came,
00:20:10.06\00:20:11.25
well I think, and
mom helped me just with
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a couple of words and stuff.
00:20:14.13\00:20:15.16
But it just seemed
to really fall together.
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I had been sharing
with the young lady
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over the phone that
God is not far away,
00:20:22.34\00:20:25.63
that was it take you
by the hand part of it
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that I was
saying over the phone,
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is that what you came up with?
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I came, I can't
remember but I was helping her
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to understand that if
we fall backwards again,
00:20:36.98\00:20:39.30
don't think that
God is very far away.
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Don't give up.
He is not far away,
00:20:42.68\00:20:44.02
and don't give up.
And so it just developed
00:20:44.75\00:20:47.99
and when I got up the phone.
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She said mom come here please
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and you got to hear
this and it just happened.
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So this is what I am
talking about with children
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in our family. There isn't just
00:20:56.59\00:20:59.40
the feelings of or do
we have to do this again.
00:20:59.71\00:21:02.60
There is also
that drawn out of us
00:21:02.82\00:21:05.36
that starts caring
about them even in the youth
00:21:05.59\00:21:07.94
because it
inspires them to pray.
00:21:07.95\00:21:10.07
It inspires them to
have tender feelings towards
00:21:10.71\00:21:13.60
somebody else who is
having far difficult,
00:21:13.61\00:21:16.02
more difficult times
than we are having, so...
00:21:16.46\00:21:19.26
And I will gonna
hear Rachel sing a song.
00:21:19.27\00:21:21.09
Right, yes. Okay.
00:21:21.10\00:21:22.63
She's crying on the phone
00:21:36.44\00:21:42.71
Reaching out the hand
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Can't just sing, she
feels so alone, so wishing
00:21:55.59\00:22:03.81
And can't just sing,
She's turning to you and me
00:22:03.82\00:22:10.58
So take her by
the hand and tell her
00:22:12.96\00:22:18.01
that He is not far away
And take her by the hand
00:22:18.49\00:22:24.85
and tell her. You know the way
00:22:24.86\00:22:33.14
Walk with me
together we will see Calvary
00:22:34.52\00:22:48.64
He is struggling with his heart
00:22:54.16\00:22:59.91
Does God still really care?
00:23:03.20\00:23:08.57
But if he only knew
that God is within too
00:23:11.72\00:23:17.84
And if he only knew
how to break this chain
00:23:17.85\00:23:27.65
So take him by
the hand and tell him
00:23:34.16\00:23:38.74
that God's not far away
00:23:39.66\00:23:42.62
And take him by
the hand and show him
00:23:43.05\00:23:47.54
You know the way
00:23:49.12\00:23:54.28
Walk with me
together we will see, Calvary.
00:23:55.84\00:24:12.57
Thank you so much
Rachel that was beautiful.
00:24:26.73\00:24:28.63
Wasn't that nice mama?
00:24:28.64\00:24:30.00
I think it's sweet.
Yes, it's quite tender song.
00:24:30.14\00:24:33.01
And to me it's, it's, it's
the combination of a story,
00:24:33.70\00:24:37.97
a story of where a family cared
00:24:37.98\00:24:39.62
or a family gave up itself
00:24:39.63\00:24:41.79
and this is from a
young person's point of view
00:24:42.71\00:24:44.76
because obviously
Rachel was giving of herself.
00:24:44.77\00:24:47.91
Yes, she was.
00:24:48.09\00:24:49.06
She was doing all of
that and still does, in fact.
00:24:49.07\00:24:52.48
People were in her home,
00:24:52.84\00:24:53.81
you know kind of
messing up her life,
00:24:53.82\00:24:54.96
but she was very
much a part of it.
00:24:56.34\00:24:57.63
Well, that's part of
how we come out ourselves.
00:24:57.64\00:24:59.28
Well, we have been
talking about hospitality
00:25:00.03\00:25:01.56
and we can't help but think
of that text in the scripture
00:25:02.69\00:25:06.07
which said that we
ought to not forget the...
00:25:06.08\00:25:09.66
Entertain angels unaware.
00:25:09.67\00:25:11.27
Entertain strangers
because they could be angels.
00:25:11.53\00:25:13.99
They could be
Angels. Yes, I am sorry.
00:25:14.00\00:25:15.17
From what you telling me
this couple that you had...
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Is the flip side?
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They surely weren't.
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They surely weren't
Angels that's for sure.
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No, not to begin with, but
there is a lot of sweetness
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that has come from it.
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You know, what would you say,
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you know, we have had two
program now about hospitality
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and we have been
sharing your experience
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and we have heard Rachel's,
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her little testimony at the end.
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To our viewers
what's the message of this?
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What's your desire?
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What do you wanna come up this?
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What's your council to
us? Well, I want to see,
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I would like to see
that a person would open
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their home more fully,
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be kind and more giving
to come out of ourselves,
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come out of our comfort zones.
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Tom was telling us one
time when we went to Russia.
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He would walk
around house and say,
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uh expand your
comfort zone. Oh, yes.
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Expand your comfort zone.
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And when we were dealing,
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when we were being hospitable,
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in this manner it's going
to expand your comfort zone.
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Oh, you expand your comfort zone
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even to the point we
become uncomfortable.
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Yes, even to the
point where you become
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uncomfortable
but it's a blessing.
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And I think that we
wouldn't want anybody to think
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that when we
began to do new things
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that we are going to be
comfortable when we do it.
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Or we gonna be a
little bit uncomfortable,
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but then as we do it
we began to feel gratify,
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we began to feel bless.
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Jesus said it's more
blessed to give than to receive.
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And of course
there's other scriptures
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that Jesus Himself
calls on us to deny ourselves.
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To deny ourselves!
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Of course this
generation does not like that.
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Doesn't like it.
It's all about taking,
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it's all about taking and...
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I would like to see
people dedicate their homes
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like this, to
dedicate it to the Lord
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and maybe even have a
service in dedication.
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In which we say
that our home is gonna be
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not only just where we live,
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it's gonna be kind
of refuge, can we say?
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Yes, right, right.
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We've done that before
in our home and I would,
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you know, maybe sometime
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I will get to
tell somebody about it.
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Let's pray about that. Okay.
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Shall we as we
close our program?
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Let's do that.
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Heavenly Father, we
are thankful for Rachel
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and for her sweet song.
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We are thankful
for her sweet heart
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that's committed to you.
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She loves Jesus in her youth.
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We are thankful for our Lord,
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the Matthew's family in
which they gave up themselves
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and that in spite
of the inconvenience
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it was a blessing
and there will be people
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in heaven because we
heeded the command of our Lord
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where when He said
it's more blessed to give
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and to receive and that
we should deny ourselves.
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Lord give us the
spirit of sharing,
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give us the
spirit of hospitality.
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We pray that you'll give
us the spirit of compassion
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that others might
be blessed not only by
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what they read or
what they see on 3ABN,
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but by the lives or
daily lives being touched.
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