Participants: Kathy Matthews, Richard O'Ffill
Series Code: TAH
Program Code: TAH000144
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00:31 Welcome to Thinking about Home.
00:32 I'm Kathy Matthews and I'm glad you've joined 00:34 us again. Today we are going to be discussing 00:36 more on Peer Pressure. Of course more on the 00:40 family and home and preparation for our 00:42 heavenly home, but today it's going to be peer 00:45 pressure and the struggles of early teens. 00:49 The reason that we chose this because really 00:51 one of our daughters has gone through some 00:54 struggles then we thought that maybe, 00:57 others may benefit from this and she would like 00:59 to share little bit about some of the temptations 01:02 she was up against and her decisions to follow 01:06 Christ after a period of time. And we 01:09 felt that, that was a good decision. 01:11 Rachel Matthews is our guest and Pastor 01:14 Richard O'Ffill is joining us again. 01:15 We thank you for being with us both of you. 01:19 Rachel I'm so glad that you are here. 01:21 You've got a sweet smile. I'm glad to be here. 01:23 I'm glad that you felt, that you had the courage 01:26 to get on this program today and our guest. 01:29 Well you know it's I would congratulate Rachel 01:31 too because you know when you get to be 01:34 14 years old you can get to become sort of 01:35 half anti-social. You know, you don't want to have 01:37 anything to do with adults, right, 01:39 and you kind of get this sort of look on your face 01:41 and I'm not here. And Rachel, 01:44 you don't want get that on your face. 01:48 Rachel is not that kind of person. Not too bad. 01:50 Most of time, she's not. You know I want to tell 01:54 our viewers that, we were talking before and 01:57 of course about what would we do and I said 01:59 well I wanna get acquainted with Rachel. 02:01 Now of course that doesn't something Kathy 02:02 you need to do. I could get then how to shape out 02:04 of that, over it but I won't, may be already I am, 02:08 I don't know. Rachel and I got acquainted this 02:13 summer at the Washington Academy, did we, Uh. 02:16 Yes we enjoyed that. Can I was comfort with the 02:18 honor, what is my honor? Grandpa. Yes. 02:23 And I guess, there true, I'm your only grandpa. 02:25 Yes. Both of mine have died. So. 02:28 You are the only one. And I was really honored. 02:31 And I say seriously when you sent me an email 02:34 and dear grandpa, birthday card. 02:37 Yeah, yeah it was really good. 02:39 So you kind of give away the next question 02:41 as I'm trying to get acquainted because 02:43 I was gonna say Rachel what's it like to be 02:45 an only child. Only? No, no that, 02:49 that was my question. And then she, 02:51 and then you are gonna say I have a sister 02:55 I am not an only child. But I have been an only 02:59 child for about the past four years because 03:01 my sister is been away to, that's true to academy 03:03 and college. So I can get really lonely at times, 03:07 because you don't always have someone to be 03:11 friends where to share something with. 03:15 But, you know my sister and I really close 03:19 so we email and we talk on the phone and 03:22 I send her letters sometimes play. 03:23 I'm not really an only child, just, you just feel 03:27 like that. Yeah. Just some times I feel like that. 03:29 but isn't that, isn't that a little bit gratifying? 03:32 You know here you know when two of you, 03:34 maybe older sister gets all the attention, 03:36 isn't that a little bit fun to be the center of 03:39 attention may be or? I won't say I'm a center 03:41 of attention. You are thinking that she has 03:44 become the center of attention. 03:46 Oh no I'm just I mean she is, you know she is 03:48 there unless you as the mother, you know 03:51 worried about your daughter away to school. 03:53 Well you know I think some times it's difficult 03:55 to them to realize whether they are the center 03:57 of attention or not. May be they think that they 04:00 need more than they get. Dick how many people 04:03 were in your family? How many children were 04:05 in your family? I'm one of four. And you, 04:08 how many in yours? I'm the youngest of 12. 04:11 There were 12 children. Oh that's a big family. 04:14 Yes, yes it is. They thought I was spoilt but 04:16 I have news for them. I wasn't as spoilt as they 04:19 thought. You ended up so nice. Oh, 04:21 I thought I won't get it. Would mind a little joke, 04:24 you know sometimes people say how many 04:26 children were in your family and I'll say well 04:29 I'm the youngest of 12, oh yes. 04:31 And of course I always had, you know being 04:33 the youngest I always had to where hand me downs. 04:36 That is only a joke of which I really didn't mind 04:38 except the other 11 were girls. 04:43 I'm not serious. And so you are one of two, 04:45 you are one of twelve and I'm one of four. 04:47 Right, but before we go into program I want 04:49 to tell you about my mother and daddy 04:51 little bit. Well we have fun doing this. 04:55 My father, well I'll tell the story afterwards. 04:58 My father married my aunt and they had four 05:00 children then my aunt died with pneumonia 05:02 and then my daddy's daddy died, 05:03 and my mother's mother died. 05:05 And daddy's mother married mother's daddy 05:06 and then daddy married mother. 05:08 Is that why they got to song, 05:09 I'm now your own grandpa. It could be? 05:13 That's a true story. You and I getting carried 05:16 away and our guest is just sitting here just 05:17 say when I'm gonna start being, 05:19 guest or not here. I'm sorry. Rachel you've been, 05:24 I understand, sort of a homeschool person, 05:26 you and your sister. I've been home schooled 05:29 since first grade, kindergarten, 05:31 pre-school whatever. At the beginning. 05:33 Sarah, my sister has been home schooled since 05:36 then up to 10th grade and then she went 05:37 to academy. And I'm in 9th grade this year. 05:41 And I'm so. I know your teachers pet you 05:44 get all age probably. No. That's not true. 05:47 No. actually I've been accused probably a bit 05:50 more hard on them than easy and lenient on them. 05:54 But this time you are on the computer. 05:56 I am doing, I have CDs for my computer and I 06:01 do science, English, History and Maths on the 06:04 computer and then I have my own Bible program 06:06 and then I have some music and hobbies. 06:10 I like work in my website, chatting on-line and 06:12 sending emails and stuff so. She stays busier 06:16 sometimes than, she needs to be. 06:18 It's hard for her to get some thing is done 06:20 and I would ask her to do. 06:21 Did you, do you ever wish that you were in a 06:23 regular school. I have several times simply 06:27 because you know I have friends there go to 06:31 the local church school or something but 06:35 I enjoy homeschooling, because it gives me 06:38 enough time to be able to do my hobbies 06:42 and I can have more spiritually based 06:43 education so. You know there is one thing 06:46 I appreciate and this was a personal observation 06:49 and it's not just with Rachel. 06:50 It seems to be you know almost generic among 06:53 the homeschool kids that these young people 06:57 can relate to adults. You know with so many times 07:00 when they got to be teenagers, 07:02 now they seem to be kind of alienated from adults 07:04 and you know, it's true you will, adult walks 07:05 in the door they walk out the back door, 07:06 that's true. You know they kind of get this doooog. 07:10 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But I noticed this about 07:13 Rachel and other you know the homeschool people, 07:15 when they are around adults, that they are so 07:17 mature they relates so well you know at the same 07:20 time they relate to their peers just fun. 07:22 I appreciate that. And most enjoy at little 07:24 children, babies they don't usually shun them 07:27 as if they were from another world or 07:29 something. But they can only so that they 07:31 might have. Well we'll started as babies. 07:33 We'll have a family atmosphere, in other words 07:35 you'll have a desire to be kind and friendly and 07:38 active and interactive with little children. 07:42 Do you know we were in Pakistan, 07:46 Kathy and Cindy was going to begin the first grade 07:50 and I don't know if Betty did, 07:54 she must have done the first grade and maybe 07:55 the second grade? But she know it didn't work 07:58 real well, now this is I don't think it's you know 08:00 something against Betty or against Cindy but 08:03 I can remember Cindy aaai bubu hoo boo hoo, 08:05 I don't want to do it. You know it got to be 08:08 this mother child thing and I guess Rachel, 08:11 I mean you know would your mother 08:12 as your teacher and also your mother. 08:15 I mean do you separate this, is it all the same 08:17 to you. It is difficult sometimes. 08:18 It is but I've learned that momma is my mother, 08:23 my teacher, my friend, you know she is all those 08:27 combined. But they are all separate, 08:29 a nurse and a doctor, I know. 08:33 Do you have the same; same feelings are you 08:35 able to talk to her, as her teacher? Yes, 08:39 oh yes sometimes I have to get out of the mode 08:42 of being that way yet. Well to me, 08:45 mother and teacher are almost the same thing, 08:47 because you teach them from the time that 08:48 they can, they are born. What's the difference? 08:51 Mothers or teachers anyway that's what 08:53 you are saying. Mothers are teachers. 08:54 And Jesus was taught of us, at the foot 08:58 of his mother. That's true. You know and not 09:00 that everybody can homeschool I'm not saying 09:02 that everyone can, not everybody can handle 09:04 that maybe I do think that probably a lot more 09:08 or qualified more than they think they are. 09:12 Especially, if they are frightened I think they can 09:14 still handle early years which will give children 09:17 a good foundation but and I think we are even 09:20 admonished to be more careful in those 09:23 early years. But one of the biggest things 09:28 in homeschooling, I think is getting the idea of 09:31 obedience and instructions that you can follow 09:34 instructions. And when you can follow instructions 09:37 you got a lot of battle won. And if they can 09:41 sit down and follow instructions then they can 09:44 almost self educate if they are motivated to do so. 09:47 Well this was going to be my next question Rachel 09:48 that here you are at home, you know and this 09:51 must require some self-discipline because 09:53 if you know the school bus is coming or you 09:55 got to get in the car and go some place, 09:56 and it's gonna start at 9'o clock, 09:59 do you have some kind of like 9'o clock start 10:01 or 8:30 start and 8:30 to 12. I mean how 10:04 do you discipline yourself to put this together 10:06 or is at any time, all the time? Well in the past 10:09 we've had it from about 8:30 in the morning 10:11 until about noon. We stop for lunch then start 10:15 again and finish. But we've done a lot of traveling 10:18 lately, so I just start when I can, 10:24 I can make up days that I miss that's one of the 10:27 really get things by homeschooling because 10:28 if I'm traveling and I miss a day then I can make 10:33 it up later, so. Well you know it's interesting, 10:36 she says that because she says she in the 9th grade 10:38 and she is 14 now. She says, she was 14 10:40 and in the 3rd grade we would know she 10:41 was never make it up, that's right. 10:44 And you know this new program has a way 10:46 of keeping up with all of the records, 10:48 all of grades and everything is going 10:50 to be important for later and that's good for now. 10:52 But we have, it's been a unnecessary thing 11:00 in homeschooling to just help the child to 11:05 understand that they can take care of lot 11:08 of their discipline themselves, 11:11 because in spiritual prophecy we were told 11:12 that we need to teach our children to be 11:14 self-governed. And you know you, 11:18 like I said before you got a lot of the battle 11:20 won when a lot of that's starts coming out. 11:23 You know, of course we are not finished yet 11:25 but we work on it and this is kind of with 11:29 computer is helpful to work on being 11:32 self-disciplined and self-governed. It 11:35 really in this particular program we wanted 11:37 to kind of get acquainted which I think, 11:38 we have kind of set a context but really 11:42 what we would like to do Rachel is to talk about 11:45 the subject of Peer Pressure. In other words, 11:49 here you are 14 years old and you are surrounded 11:52 by all of these voices and all these pressures 11:55 and the advertisements and besides all the other 11:57 kids. And I just wonder how you as a Christian 12:02 young lady, you know how you relate to all this, 12:06 I see how your, you know that, 12:09 what kind of person you are got acquainted 12:10 with you. And you know there is a lot of other 12:13 girls of your age or really going off, 12:14 excuse my expression in the deep end, 12:18 and of course you had to confront that. 12:21 Why have you chosen to, you know before 12:24 you are? I mean how do you resist? 12:27 Well you know I have had my own share trails, 12:30 but I've realized that God's way is the best way 12:33 and that's the way I want to follow and that 12:36 my parents do know best, I mean if they 12:39 made mistakes at times but they've been 12:42 a child like me, they've been a teenager 12:44 and stuff. And they know what I've been through, 12:49 and I think a lot of the peer pressure that teens 12:52 struggle with is, it has a lot to do with how they 12:56 dress you know. Especially, if you like me where 12:58 I won't hand me down for my sister and 13:02 I shop at this stores, I'm not ashamed to say 13:04 that I shop at this stores, you know because 13:06 I feel that I can find better bargains there. 13:08 I mean I can find really good clothes there but 13:12 I can save my money 'cause I think stewardship 13:15 comes in there as well. If you don't feel like you 13:18 have to have named brands you know Polo, 13:20 Nautica, Tommy, Sketcher shoes you know 13:23 if you feel like you have to have those then 13:26 you can't save the money. You can't put it toward 13:29 anything. Now I mean, how can you face to other 13:32 kids I mean, doesn't make you feel like nobody 13:34 and you know I'm nobody, how do you face these 13:37 other kids with sister clothes Well they would 13:40 have to know they are just a clothes. 13:43 And I did you are even telling me one time 13:44 that you can by name some sister. 13:46 That's true. You can find it if you go to the right 13:49 place then you can find it. But in reality 13:50 some of the stores, that she has had is going 13:53 through those feelings of hand-me-downs. 13:56 Exactly, because even if other people don't know 13:58 that you wearing hand-me-downs, 14:00 you know it. And you almost feel like they are 14:02 scaring at you because your brand, 14:06 you know they not brand new, you know. 14:09 So a close issue is something that the 14:12 children do have to face. Obviously, 14:15 if you've seen anybody on the streets, 14:17 you know that there is an issue about clothing. 14:19 I mean. You can, if you watch anything on 14:23 television and occasionally for information 14:28 I will watch a talk show once in a while, 14:30 because I want to see some of the things, 14:32 where I don't like to watch the whole thing 14:34 and I don't know who is like to see what 14:36 I've just seen. In other words it only takes 14:38 five seconds sometimes. But if you see anything 14:42 like that you know that there is a horrible issue 14:46 and draw uphold to the world about clothing. 14:49 And that's just one of things but that's gonna 14:52 big one for you. because if you aren't dressed 14:58 like the person out there, the person that 15:00 you see walk down the street there on, 15:04 you know it seems like they have it altogether 15:07 they got polo, polo sport you know oh wow, 15:11 awesome but inside they are so lonely and 15:19 besides they got a hole in their pocket, 15:21 since they notice. You gonna see money, 15:25 and thrift is an important thing to ours. 15:26 You know Rachel for those of us who, 15:30 who were not young people right now 15:31 we used to be young. We see some of these 15:33 styles. It is incredible you know, 15:35 is there is a young man walking down the street 15:36 looks like excuse me his pants were about to 15:38 fall off. Or you know these kids that wear these 15:41 baseball caps on backward these days and 15:43 of course I don't know if you remember 15:46 Kathy that back, when we were kids the only 15:48 one that worries a baseball cap backward 15:50 was the catcher in a ball game. Yes that's true. 15:53 And so I heard a good one Rachel wear this, 15:55 where these two boys were walking along the 15:56 sidewalk and hold their caps on backward and 15:58 one of them says to the other, 15:59 I don't know why they don't make these caps 16:00 so they keep the center out, right. 16:04 Oh Dick, sometimes you ridiculous. 16:08 But times have changed, that's true. 16:10 And I know that Rachel has had some struggles 16:13 in that, you know while we were here, 16:15 is because you wanted to share some of that. 16:17 And Rachel what we are saying is that here 16:19 you are and you are hero and you are saying 16:22 you know I can actually resist these things 16:24 I don't have to be what everybody else 16:26 is but we've always that way I mean, 16:29 how did you get to where you at now? 16:32 Well I've learned that, I have to check myself 16:33 where .who I am because God made me the way 16:36 I am and he knew what he is doing I heard 16:39 preachers say once God never says 'oops'. 16:41 That's good. Yeah, right. God never says 'oops'. 16:44 That's right. And he is coming back that close 16:46 on some of the people. No not true. 16:52 But you have to learn to accept yourself because 16:57 God knew what He was doing. And in sometimes 16:59 it's really hard you know because you don't have 17:02 the money, you don't have it altogether it seems 17:04 like but you do, if you trust at the Lord, 17:08 if you trust God. And well where do you get your 17:11 value from? You get your value from God, 17:12 you don't get your value from what kind of car 17:14 you drive, or what kind of clothes you wear 17:16 or you know if you have a stereo system or not, 17:19 that's not one, where you get your value from it? 17:20 Right. And you know I want to say that if friends 17:24 don't accept, if people don't accept you for 17:26 who you are now, then if you change then 17:30 won't be your true friends, once you change. 17:31 Did you change that, If you change for them 17:33 they won't be your true friends. Because if 17:38 they do be friends you then it's just because 17:40 you see him like a co-friend at that time. 17:41 You become like them. Or you become like them 17:44 or you might have something that they want. 17:46 It's a very selfish way. It is, it is. 17:49 But if they will like you for who you are now, 17:51 then they will like you when you change because 17:53 in reality you still the same way. Alright. 17:56 Did you have trouble with your immediate peers? 17:59 No, no. I struggled the most with what I thought 18:03 the people out there, thought of me because 18:06 everybody there I knew accepted me for 18:09 exactly who I was. All your immediate friends. 18:12 All my immediate friends, everybody at church, 18:13 you know everybody that I knew accepted me 18:15 for who I was. But I struggled with what 18:19 the people in the street or in the grocery store. 18:22 It seem like they were staring at me, you know. 18:24 So this is going on in your mind probably. 18:26 Yeah, yeah it was all in my mind. So 18:28 you know I just realized several weeks ago 18:34 that's it was the people out there that may 18:37 be you feel like uncomfortable. 18:38 You mean you identified it. Yeah, yeah. 18:42 The people you didn't even know, the people 18:43 I would never met before that, I didn't know 18:45 their names, I didn't know anything about them. 18:47 But then this would have some connection with 18:50 advertising, wouldn't it?. Yeah, yeah. 18:51 Advertising, Advertising place such an important 18:54 part in people's insecurities because they 18:59 always say oh I got to have that to be, 19:00 to have it made, you know. I got to have that 19:04 but you don't because the more you have the 19:06 more you want. Do you know, you know 19:08 I thought Rachel that advertising I am talking 19:12 about the general that surrounds us is the 19:15 biggest foot down area. See it's advertising 19:18 that says when you are fat, it's advertising it 19:21 says when you are thin, it's advertising that 19:23 says when you are good looking, 19:24 it's advertising that says when you are ugly, 19:27 it's advertising that says when you are smart 19:31 or you are dumb. And so advertising is 19:34 manipulating our hates. You know, 19:36 I think it came out of you recently Dick 19:39 that you said something about getting our value; 19:41 it's you that I get my value from someone else, 19:45 not me but from you. Yeah we were talking 19:48 about self-esteem in another program we did 19:50 and so that basically speaking that we are 19:54 allowing the world to put us into a small. 19:57 You know there is a text it says, 19:58 it says be not confirmed to this world, 20:01 be transformed by the renewing of your mind. 20:03 I think another translation says don't let 20:05 the world put you into a small. 20:07 And so I think what I hear Rachel saying 20:09 is that really the world which is squeezing 20:13 in around her it was just trying to force her 20:17 to be what it wanted her to be one day 20:18 I guess you woke up and say wait a minute, 20:20 I'm not gonna do this. No, well I don't it was 20:23 just day or was it? No I don't think it was 20:24 just one day it took a long time to get out 20:27 of feeling, so uncomfortable with 20:31 the way I was. You know it takes a long time 20:36 to can have a, you can just snap out of way 20:38 right way. Well you go into in a day. 20:40 You can't because I knew reality its nothing with 20:44 the people out there, it's all in your head 20:47 it's all the way perceive yourself, 20:48 in your particular case. Yeah, yeah it's all the 20:50 way that you think of yourself what you think 20:53 you look like. Well then that's not necessarily 20:55 in your particular case because it's always 20:58 in the way we think of ourselves, 21:00 right isn't it? In peer pressure. 21:03 As we perceive that others are thinking. 21:04 Others are thinking about it. Do you know may 21:06 I still on the table here, another concept of that 21:11 you know it will sound like a same thing. 21:14 See it's natural for us, to be surrounded by 21:17 what we call peer pressure. Peer pressure 21:18 is like air, in other words is because there 21:20 is everybody else and to be under peer pressure 21:24 is to be a human being of because it's there. 21:26 You are not gonna escape it? We are not 21:28 gonna escape it, but however I think 21:29 what we are talking about is will we become 21:33 peer dependent, this is the key word. 21:36 Good term, in other words that I depend for 21:39 my self respect, for my concept of who I'm, 21:43 I mean it in others, tell me how to dress, 21:46 Tell me what to eat, Tell me you know what 21:48 I how to do and what I ought not do? 21:51 And to the place where I'm not a person unless 21:54 I'm doing what you said. And so it's not peer 21:59 pressure, peer pressure is like air, 22:01 but it's peer dependency is this think gets 22:04 into your head, right and which we become almost 22:06 taken over about it. Can you share any more Rachel 22:10 about your feelings, how well how you got over it? 22:15 Well. Maybe in the middle of it, do you remember 22:17 one day are praying with you? The three 22:21 of us even got in the bed room together and we 22:26 were she was feeling this very strongly and at 22:31 a point in time when it was becoming depressing 22:36 to her and not just dress but that and some 22:43 other things but as we begin to get into what 22:47 the problem was and we begin to talk about it. 22:50 You began to be freed from it, because it 22:52 was no longer just in her head. 22:54 Yeah because I realized that what I was thinking 22:58 was just foolishness because the way I saw 23:05 myself wasn't with other people saw me as 23:09 you know. Right you had to become, 23:11 you had make that clear in your head that was true. 23:16 That it wasn't what you were thinking about 23:18 yourself it was well it just was not what 23:25 you thought there were thinking about you. 23:27 Right, do you know I had an experience that I 23:30 don't know if it's exactly like here was Rachel 23:32 and but it was happening to me when I was 23:33 in college and I must have been 18 years old 23:37 studying for the ministry believe it or not. 23:39 Do you know I think I was having this thing 23:41 that was having, you know what I was having? 23:43 Friday nights, oh yeah Friday nights believe 23:46 it or not. It was like I wanted to go out 23:47 into the world, I wanted to do, 23:49 whatever they were doing, whatever that was. 23:52 And it just got heaver and heaver on me. 23:54 And I can remember that one day I finally went 23:56 to the dean and I said you know I want to go 23:59 out into the world, I want to do whatever 24:00 they are doing. And you know, what he said. 24:03 He said go ahead. Yeah you told me this, 24:05 he said go ahead. Now you have to be careful 24:07 today I think if you said that. But, it was thing 24:10 I needed to hear because I think this is 24:12 happened in Rachel's head to see. 24:15 In other words she had to deal with something 24:17 she had to make a decision before it was 24:19 just all going with a flow, but there she had 24:21 to become intentional and so when the dean 24:23 said to me well go head then he sit me 24:26 free I decided I did want to go. Okay, 24:29 I decided I wanted to be who I was not but 24:32 ever that was. I think that's what here are 24:34 you saying. That's once it came out of me open, 24:38 suddenly you said I like who I'm, right. 24:42 Can you share a little bit about how 24:43 you begin to feel about yourself when you 24:45 wrestle this thing to the ground and it became 24:49 a decision now that's not really what I want to do. 24:54 I have to draw a line and now I feel. 24:57 I'm happy with who I'm, you know and like 25:00 I said before I don't care if I brought my clothes 25:03 secondhand shops. Because I don't find my value 25:07 in how I dressing I mean I like dressing nicely. 25:10 And I don't mind if I find name brand clothes, 25:14 but I don't find my value in how I dress 25:18 what I look like. I find my value in what God 25:21 thinks of me and what my family thinks of me. 25:25 And, it's kind a gotten into a maybe the channel 25:30 where God had wanted it, I hope so. 25:34 I want to go, do you know, you know when 25:35 she talks about the importance of clothes 25:38 is diminished. It's what she is, 25:40 now this important. I heard somebody say one 25:42 time that if you ask me to describe someone 25:46 I don't know or describe how they look. 25:49 If you ask me to describe someone I 25:51 love and appreciate are they what kind of people 25:53 they are, right. And so really the higher our 25:56 concepts go the less we look at the outward 26:00 appearance. And the more we look at the 26:03 inner man and I think this is what I here her 26:06 saying that. Suddenly as I begun to realize 26:08 my true value in the side of God and I would 26:11 probably say inner side of my family, yes. 26:14 That it wasn't me as an outside person 26:16 it was me as an inside person that really matter. 26:18 That's what we were looking, what a victory, 26:20 what an answer to your prayers. 26:21 And this really is a struggle with, 26:23 that's probably good for you to have gone 26:25 through now and not at later age and not 26:28 to say that you are not gonna go through 26:29 them again, or anyone you know lots of people 26:33 are going through this things and we need to 26:35 make solid decisions. Are you happy now 26:38 that you are made the decisions? 26:39 Oh I was just to say that I'm so happy, 26:41 now that I have made the decision to accept 26:43 myself for who I'm. because, you know that 26:46 there, you are just happier, you know, 26:51 you are just yourself, right. She can be free. 26:53 She is saying you are just happy and you 26:55 think, it's mother, boy I'm so proud to have 26:57 a daughter like that. Yes that was, 26:58 it really was a painful time. 27:01 And that is only one of the smaller issues, 27:03 but I would rather deal with the smaller issues 27:05 now than die over the later and it can still be 27:09 painful. Well thank you Rachel I know that 27:13 it wasn't easy for you to be on here. 27:14 But, I'm glad that you tried and thank you 27:17 Dick for joining us. Oh it's been a pleasure. 27:19 And I know that our viewers and listeners can 27:25 be thinking about what their families go through. 27:28 I want to encourage you and I hope that you 27:30 won't weary or well doing, amen. 27:32 Stay with us we gonna have a prayer but I hope 27:35 you will join us gain on Thinking about Home. 27:37 Dick will you have prayer for us? Sure. 27:38 Heavenly father we are thankful for Rachel, 27:41 we are thankful for her victory Lord 27:43 and that through every stage of our lives 27:45 where they were 14, or 40 or even 70 whatever 27:49 it is that you by her size that you never 27:51 leave her for seek us, be with Rachel as she 27:54 continues to grow in grace and in the 27:56 knowledge of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. |
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