Hello, I'm Kathy Matthews
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and this is Thinking about Home.
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How is your home
today and I'm glad
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you are joining us in your home.
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We have been
discussing surrender.
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Surrender of the women.
Women as wives especially
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as wives and we have
had a special guest with us
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that's been, that she
had rich, rich experience
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and very much has
experienced that surrender
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in her lives, in her life.
And the lives of her family,
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its caused all the
stories that we are going
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to get hear over
this program today
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and other stories
that we are gonna hear
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in other programs. I
want to give you a little bit
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more background about
our guest and she was raised
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in missionary
family in her early years
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it was in the jungles of
Sumatra and they did some
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travel on ships
during world war two and
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they were dragging
submarines and they had
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some time in Japan.
There was a time when they had
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house arrest for a
year and they have just gone
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through many
things in her family when
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she was growing up.
And it sealed her love
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for the Lord as she
went through this in
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surrendering her own
rights and wishes of her
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selfish nature. The
guest is Arlita Winston,
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I just so glad that you're here.
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Hello and I am glad to be here.
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And we are
getting comfortable with
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this subject aren't we today.
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We are going to
move right on into women
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as wives and surrender.
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A bit deeper now was a
scriptures and I just wanted
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to let our viewers
know that in your marriage
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your husband you have
a very wonderful marriage
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and that Joe loves
you very much that way
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what does one do
if one isn't loved
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by their husband.
When thinking about that
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I think of Leah and
that beautiful love story
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of Jacob when he is
of course running away
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from his brother Esau
and he runs up to his uncle
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Laban's home and
discovers his daughter Rachel
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and its love at first
sight. And of course working
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for Laban seven years
to win Rachel is better day
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as far as Jacob
is concerned but that
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faithful wedding week
Laban turns everything
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over and he is determined
that he oldest daughter
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is going to be
married first as the custom
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of the day demanded
and so without telling
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Jacob he has Leah
going in and deceiving Jacob
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and becoming his
wife that first night.
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And I can only
imagine the torment
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and yet the
mixture of hope that may be
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just may be he is
going to love her too.
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She has seen her
youngest sister fallen in love
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and on picturing Leah
who the one thing that
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he said about her
that she is tender eyed.
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What, what you think that meant.
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That some have
said that it meant that
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her eyes were weak. I
think I prefer to think
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of her has been very
tender and tendered hearted.
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Well, denied her look
toward Jacob was tender eyed
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a different kind of
look, it could have been.
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I was wondering
about that it I don't mean
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though it just
because of tender eyed.
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And I can imagine
the older sister being
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in the background she
is watching her younger
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sister fall so
head over heels in love
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with this man and
her own despondency
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and then the
sudden turn were she is to
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go into the wedding
tent and Jacob doesn't
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even know it and there
she is that was probably
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one night that, that
stands out above all that
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she hoped may be
her own response of love
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might win Jacobs and of course
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when Don came it
brought nothing but anger
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and hatred and then
Leah says now he scold
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him right out
of that and he said
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oh that's the way we
do it here thee says,
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this is you would
there married the younger
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daughter first.
Why don't you just work
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another seven years
for me and perform your
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duties as a
husband to her this week
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and then you can
have Rachel after that.
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And so of course
that is we know that
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is what happen. But
the Jacob ever return
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to Leah in love no,
no, he did he returned
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to her yes. But
only for sons that's why
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he came to her night after night
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because Rachel was
not able to have children
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for some reason
God had closed her womb
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and God had
opened Leah's and so Leah
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and the arms of Jacob conceives
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and the first born
comes and I am sure
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her heart just roars
within her with hope.
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Now, now, wife
husband is going to love me
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because I am
going to give him a son.
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This son is going to
carry on the family name
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and so when the
baby has born she names
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him Reuven and
this she named Reuven
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meaning see a son it is
because the Lord has seen
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my misery, surely my
husband would love me
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now he was gonna be
the builder of the family.
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But as the story
goes on we know that
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isn't the case. She
was hated at the more
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but God heard
yet she kept hoping,
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she kept hoping that
Jacob would love her.
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She got pregnant
again she has a second son.
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And this second
son she named Simeon.
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And Simeon means
hearing and it was because
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the Lord heard
that I am not loved.
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He gave me Simeon.
So, she actually means
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the child hearing
oh God your hearing me
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but all the while her
heart is just in utter
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anguish and torment
because now I am sure
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not only she was hated
but I don't think Rachel
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showed too much love towards
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of the children
either. If probably this if
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you could imagine
that but now and then
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she continues though
so, she doesn't give up
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hope continuous to
long for Jacobs love.
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She convinces
again and the third one
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she names Levi
which means joint.
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Now, last my husband
would become attached
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to me because I
born him three sons
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so he was named
Levi meaning joint.
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Her longing could
never be satisfied
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she had to
relinquish all of this and then
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she had to accept
God's love for her.
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She conceived again
her hope continued to grow
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for her love for
Jacob but by this time
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joy absolutely
erupts because she has made
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the change and she
realizes that the only one
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that can really
satisfy her is Judah light
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and she conceives
again and she has exuberant
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prayers as this time
she gives birth this child
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and names him Judah.
This time I will praise
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the Lord, amen. So
she named Judah meaning
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praise! Now, that
praise comes from the
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primitive root "Yaw-daw"
which means to celebrate,
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to celebrate with
open arms giving thanks.
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And so here you see she
is relinquished her right.
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So, it has speak of
having the love of her husband
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and she is, has viewed
into the love of her Lord
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saying your
enough God your enough.
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You see that transition
taking place now through
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the birth the
names of her children
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I had never
thought of that before,
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and not only that
but its through Judah
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that our Lord
comes, Amen. Messiah Christ
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comes from that
son named praise. Amen.
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You know this drove her to God,
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if she had, but there
are stories in the Bible
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where the sorrow did
not drive them to God
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like the story
of Michal was David.
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Oh! that's, that is
so true because Michal
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it said she loved
David and I believe David
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loved her. And she
even risked her own life
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and in order to
save him at one point,
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right when Saul
was out after him.
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Right, but when
there comes a point when
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he returns with
the ark of the Lord
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and he is just dancing
jubilantly in his treat,
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watch worshiping
God and thanking him for
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overcoming the
enemies and bringing the
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ark of the Lord
back into there presence,
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right. Michal is
standing up away from
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everybody else looking
out the window criticizing
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with her husband
and despising the way
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he has exuberantly
rejoicing in the Lord.
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And it says she
despised him in her heart.
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She had no regard for
his adoration for the Lord
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and it says as a result
the Lord closed her womb
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and she was never
able to have children
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as a result of that.
It's interesting how,
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how that happened to her.
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It teaches her. It's sobering.
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It's sobering isn't it?
It teaches a lesson and,
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what we are
doing with her husband.
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And I think what it
does is it reminds me
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of the verse in Ephesians 5:33,
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the verse says each
one of you also must love
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his wife as he
loves himself and the wife
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must respect her
husband. You see this is what
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Michal did not do. She
did not respect to David.
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She despised him in her heart.
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And this is very
sobering. Now, of course the
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the husband
used to love the wife
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as he loves
himself. But notice it says
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the wife must respect,
yes, I think we are sadly
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lacking today in our society.
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This, the orient
seems to show it more,
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or at least they use
to do. Well, it so much
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has to do with the
fact that we have not
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married perfect men. Oh! Arlita!
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But unfortunately
they have not married
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perfects wives and of
course God really kind
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at that way she
didn't expect man to fully
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be able to satisfy
a wife or vise versa.
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He expected to
occupy that place himself,
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place in the
heart. And made that place
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in heart and so we
are designed that way
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none of us can fully,
yes, fully satisfy the
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other person
because God makes us.
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That's right and so
we respect the authority
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in the husband God
has given and he has
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placed over us we
respect him honor that why,
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because he has
been told that he needs
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to love us to the
point of death giving his own
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life for us. And that
should cause us a tremendous
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joy in submitting
to that husband because
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of the incredible
task he has been asked
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to deal. Now, a lot of repenting
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and I need to go
on, yes, right, daily.
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What will you do if
you have a different view
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then your husband,
both of you are believers.
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Now, that you have a
different view how do you
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handle that type of
situation and so miss him?
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I think they were time
in my life when we were
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both walking with
our Lord this is after
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we had come back to the Lord
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and we both had a
difference of opinion
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on a very major
issue. My husband had been
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given a wonderful
opportunity that would
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probably have influenced
worldwide and probably
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set a lot of
captives free. But there was
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something deep
inside in my heart where
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I did not feel it peace about it
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and we had some time
ago come to a conclusion
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that we would
never do anything unless
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we were both at peace about it.
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Simply because we have
gone to this four years
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but we were in
alienation with God.
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And we determined
that now it wasn't
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Joe's way or my way
but it, we have to seek
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God's way. And so
have determined that
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when we came to a
point like that we would
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table our own
agenda put it into neutral
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and promise one and another.
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One not to
manipulate that will be my part
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not to manipulate
him and that he would
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not strong on
strong on me and force me
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with his reasoning
powers and force me
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to do something.
Well here we were.
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I think that's a very
good principle to hold out
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in the family a
message and keeping
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family calmness,
keeping the family running
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smoothly and it
works in small decisions
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as well as big. It
works when you go to buy
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a dress or when
you sell your hearts.
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Well, in this
particular situation you have to
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deal with a change of occupation
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and what Joe will
be doing and I had no
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peace about it. And
I could see if Joe was
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feeling that may be
we should move ahead
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and do it and we were
around vacation at the time
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and I went up on the
high road above of the lake
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and above the
cottage left the family
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to the evening couple
of days and I just walked
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that road. I just
pace that road up and down,
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up and down for several hours.
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The only verse
that would come to me
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where as he leads
me in the paths of
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righteousness
for His name's sake.
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Not for mine but
for his name sake that
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he would lead me
in the right way.
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Well, if he was
gonna lead me he would have
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also have to lead Joe
because we're one flesh.
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Because the
scripture fit both of you,
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and that was just, need
to listen to Bible for you.
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And I knew that
not only I was praying
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but the Holy Spirit was
praying for me with words
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that I could not
even utter and that Jesus
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himself has receding for me.
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So, so that the
family wouldn't worry
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I went on back
down to the cottage
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that night but
still not at peace.
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The next month I
continued loving Joe
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but not saying one word
about the issue continued
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to love him do
everything I could to be a good
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wife but praying non stop.
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Walking through
my days on my knees
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saying God I
don't know what's right
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but please change
his heart or change mine.
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I can understand
that, a month from then God
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sent a man of God
down for a visit just
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for a few hours
who spokes some words
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that opened up Joe's eyes.
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The decision was
made and Joe thought very
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clearly we were not to do it.
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It was not a
question of my persuading him,
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not, it was a
question of me on my knees
00:16:52.48\00:16:55.02
before God pleading with
God for his righteousness
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to be workout in
our family and it was
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a test for me. I could
have think, it was different
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kind of test for Joe.
It was, it's beautiful
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and I can see how
those kinds of things are
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probably happen
in every family that,
00:17:11.55\00:17:13.50
aren't likely
handled in the same manner,
00:17:14.14\00:17:16.81
some yes but for
the most part society
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or the church even
though, church women
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are not seeking the
Lord enough in this way.
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Beautiful example,
well, I think we had to
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fall start on our faces
and get, become so distress
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that we had to cry
out to God for a way
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to go and God gave
us this way but it takes
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commitment on those
parts. Its takes a commitment
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to say I really walk
God's way and not mine,
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right. You know, we
all of this has to deal
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with relinquishment,
acceptance and then
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ultimately praise
knowing God because
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that whole month as
I went into that month
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not knowing what
Joe's what he did.
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I praise God for who
he was and his character
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and his ways and if
they wanted to be wonderful
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and I will submit to them.
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Well, that time
it was in your favor
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this was a time where
the Lord show to you will
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right but you just,
it doesn't always happen.
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You didn't yet like
your husband in doing it
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and he accepted it,
well, but it doesn't
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always happen. No, it
doesn't in fact there was
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another major experience
where I was completely
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in the wrong. And
it was few years ago
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I had been just
diagnosed with cancer
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and not knowing that
a few weeks before that
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we had sold our
home and we were moving
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to a home by the
lake where the children
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and grand children who
come and enjoy the fishing
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in canoeing and
that would be a place of,
00:18:59.97\00:19:02.37
of real joy, I can understand
00:19:02.40\00:19:04.86
but they couldn't
come to and two weeks after
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that way I am, I
was informant mastectomy
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and had to be out of
the house within two weeks.
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And into our new
house where my dear
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daughter-in-law and
son and children moved
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in Joe and me reach children
00:19:21.43\00:19:24.37
and my daughter-in-law
who is from Scotland
00:19:24.74\00:19:27.87
said Mummy your
not to worry, worry.
00:19:27.90\00:19:31.79
I can't say like
she does. She says
00:19:32.34\00:19:34.82
we are gonna take
care of all move, well
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and so they did. We
have moved into that
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lovely lake house and
we have named Sweet Briar
00:19:40.87\00:19:43.94
after the old wild
Sweet Briar Rose from England.
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Wow! Now, that rose is
known for its tremendous
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thorns but
haven't they frequence.
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And I had read
poem by Amy Carmichael
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about the Sweet Briar
Rose and one of the lines
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went like this. And
out of the briar shall blow
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a rose for someone
else. And I thought who out
00:20:05.24\00:20:09.52
of this briar this
cancer is gonna to blow arose
00:20:09.55\00:20:12.63
for someone else. Oh!
That's beautiful thinking.
00:20:12.66\00:20:14.67
So, we moved to
this house and I said
00:20:14.70\00:20:16.54
that's the name we are
going to name this house
00:20:16.57\00:20:18.91
sweet briar. So, we
moved in I went through
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my chemotherapy God
himself stood with us
00:20:22.83\00:20:26.67
through those days,
they were beautiful days
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until almost five years
later one Sunday afternoon.
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Joe said to me. We
came out from church
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that day and he said Arlita
00:20:39.08\00:20:40.51
I want to talk to you
while he never usually says
00:20:40.54\00:20:42.96
I want to talk to
you he just talks to me.
00:20:42.99\00:20:45.06
So, I looked at his
face and I want to talk,
00:20:45.35\00:20:48.27
such your on edge a little bit.
00:20:48.30\00:20:50.17
There was something on his mind
00:20:50.20\00:20:51.88
of the importance
and I thought oh no.
00:20:51.91\00:20:54.25
I just had test
recently did he know something
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I didn't know at
the cancer return.
00:20:58.79\00:21:00.61
But I knew he was
serious and he handed me
00:21:00.64\00:21:03.06
a part of paper and he
said I want you to drop down
00:21:03.09\00:21:07.49
just everything
that you think God wants
00:21:10.13\00:21:12.45
you to do. I said
well, that's easy then
00:21:12.48\00:21:16.76
I sat down and
I just wrote away.
00:21:16.79\00:21:18.88
And I just one thing
after another I knew God
00:21:18.91\00:21:21.79
wanted me to do I
handed it back to him
00:21:21.82\00:21:24.64
and he looked at it and
said, now put this in to
00:21:24.67\00:21:31.39
priorities he
said. That's also easy.
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I was rather triumphant to this
00:21:36.50\00:21:38.58
and I answered
and I said the cancer
00:21:38.61\00:21:41.22
hasn't returned as
such and he said no.
00:21:41.25\00:21:43.54
So, I was puzzled
is to why I was making
00:21:44.45\00:21:46.76
at this list, so I
put my priorities and
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handed it back to
him nice out there.
00:21:50.15\00:21:51.91
He looked down that
list and then he says.
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Now, how realistic
do you think this is
00:21:55.66\00:21:58.29
and then I became
defensive and I said well
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I am gaining strengths
everyday and I just need
00:22:03.19\00:22:07.31
to do the next
thing. I don't really know
00:22:07.34\00:22:11.09
how far I am gonna
get down this list but
00:22:11.12\00:22:13.07
I just need to
do the next thing.
00:22:13.10\00:22:15.02
And he says yes but you
feel this are all things
00:22:15.06\00:22:17.87
that God wants you
to do and I said yes.
00:22:17.90\00:22:20.50
I really do, he
says then I don't think
00:22:20.53\00:22:23.60
you can able to do
it. Then I said why not
00:22:23.63\00:22:26.66
and he said I don't
think you can be able to do it
00:22:26.96\00:22:29.62
and still stay in this home.
00:22:29.65\00:22:31.35
It takes too much of your energy
00:22:31.40\00:22:34.34
and time my heart
went block I continents
00:22:34.37\00:22:40.43
went block, he loved your heart,
00:22:40.46\00:22:42.02
it had been such a
gift to me with the children
00:22:42.50\00:22:46.98
there with a lake not
too far from Joe's work
00:22:47.01\00:22:51.67
and he looked at
me and he said no
00:22:53.11\00:22:54.83
I am not going to
make this move unless
00:22:54.86\00:22:57.31
you can do it with
perfect joy. And I said
00:22:57.34\00:22:59.31
well good because
then we just won't move.
00:22:59.34\00:23:01.44
His mind was made
up, that's it and then
00:23:03.17\00:23:05.92
he just grinned at
me because he knew of
00:23:05.95\00:23:08.25
that earlier commitment
that we had made years ago.
00:23:08.28\00:23:11.12
But when ever he
disagreed we would table
00:23:12.22\00:23:15.18
our own agendas I
would not manipulate
00:23:15.21\00:23:17.98
he would not
strong on me with reason.
00:23:18.01\00:23:20.76
And he just
grinned at me just knowing
00:23:21.47\00:23:24.10
I know you are
going to go to the Lord
00:23:24.55\00:23:27.40
and ask him about
it. The awful thing is,
00:23:27.43\00:23:29.95
is that I knew I
had to do that and I had
00:23:29.98\00:23:32.74
a horrible
feeling that he was right
00:23:32.77\00:23:35.39
and I did not want
to give him into it.
00:23:35.42\00:23:39.76
There was no
way and so I didn't,
00:23:39.79\00:23:43.14
for the next two
days those days were
00:23:43.36\00:23:46.51
just utterly block and I
just simply didn't talked
00:23:46.54\00:23:49.00
to the Lord and I
tell him not to attach Joe.
00:23:49.03\00:23:51.95
On the full day, no,
no, that's not right.
00:23:53.79\00:23:55.80
The third day I
went to the door to say
00:23:57.19\00:24:00.50
good-bye to him,
very perfunctorily,
00:24:00.53\00:24:03.50
kissed him
good-bye, and I said well
00:24:03.69\00:24:05.85
I just might as well
not go in divide perennials
00:24:06.25\00:24:09.35
with my friend. Today,
if we get have to move,
00:24:09.38\00:24:12.53
and I didn't
release that I said that
00:24:13.50\00:24:15.80
it came right out
of my mouth like that.
00:24:15.83\00:24:18.03
I think I was
feeling sorry for myself
00:24:18.06\00:24:20.17
and he said very
cheerfully not think probably
00:24:20.57\00:24:24.15
that would be a good
idea and oh I could so
00:24:24.18\00:24:26.87
involved with him.
I could stand enough
00:24:27.36\00:24:29.03
by the toes because
he was assuming I had
00:24:29.06\00:24:32.80
come to decision.
He was assuming I had,
00:24:32.83\00:24:35.37
had peaceful God that
now we were going to move.
00:24:35.40\00:24:37.89
Did he still have
a smile on his face?
00:24:37.92\00:24:39.86
He did, and he just
walked up to the car
00:24:39.89\00:24:42.41
went to work and I
had closed that door
00:24:42.44\00:24:44.99
and fled to my
bedroom and to my knees,
00:24:45.02\00:24:48.31
and he probably knew
you would be doing that.
00:24:48.34\00:24:49.63
He did, and I went
to knees. I don't think
00:24:49.66\00:24:53.91
he knew how long
would take but I went
00:24:53.94\00:24:57.99
my knees and God
met me there and he said
00:24:58.02\00:25:01.10
Alrita did I give
you this home as gift.
00:25:01.13\00:25:06.73
I said yes, and I
had cancer and I named it
00:25:07.10\00:25:12.56
sweet briar what it is
still named sweet briar.
00:25:12.59\00:25:16.52
You still wanted to
blow rose for others,
00:25:17.46\00:25:20.34
I said yeah. You mean
you want me to give this
00:25:23.18\00:25:28.97
as a gift back to
you to blow a rose for
00:25:29.00\00:25:31.70
someone else. Oh! When
you put it that way oh yes,
00:25:31.73\00:25:38.91
I am telling you
Kathy, the wonder just
00:25:38.94\00:25:44.06
flooded it over me, the
thought of might be able
00:25:44.09\00:25:47.66
to give a gift to my
Lord. I got into to dreams
00:25:47.69\00:25:52.25
I got those
perennials I knew I have to make
00:25:52.51\00:25:56.43
this gift the most
beautiful gift that
00:25:56.46\00:26:00.44
I could give to my
Lord. And Joe came home
00:26:00.47\00:26:02.71
that night I said
you have ten minutes
00:26:02.74\00:26:05.96
to have your tea and we
are out to live at Condos.
00:26:06.50\00:26:10.05
He says what
happen to you, he so wow,
00:26:10.08\00:26:15.69
he knew that you
have gone to the Lord.
00:26:15.72\00:26:17.09
At my whole
continents had changed and so,
00:26:17.12\00:26:20.08
I sat there while he
had his tea and I told him
00:26:20.11\00:26:22.62
how God has met me
and it wasn't long before
00:26:22.65\00:26:26.54
God sent a seller he
sent a buyer for our house
00:26:26.57\00:26:31.92
and gave us a condo immediately.
00:26:32.10\00:26:35.27
So, that we made
the change and I did do
00:26:35.57\00:26:38.32
with a joy. What a story?
00:26:38.35\00:26:41.57
And you have
experienced that joy I like that
00:26:41.60\00:26:46.85
that look on your
face when you tell this
00:26:46.88\00:26:48.84
stories because I can
see that this experience
00:26:48.87\00:26:51.72
has really brought a
trust and a joy in this
00:26:51.75\00:26:57.93
surrender to you.
Yes, particularly when you
00:26:57.96\00:27:01.66
realize that we are
not married to perfect
00:27:01.69\00:27:04.82
husbands that we
submit to you and they are not
00:27:04.85\00:27:07.60
married to perfect
wives that they have done for,
00:27:07.63\00:27:09.83
that its the
character of God we are trusting
00:27:10.12\00:27:13.18
in to lead the
two of us together.
00:27:13.21\00:27:15.70
Right and I think
too that all of this is
00:27:15.73\00:27:19.24
preparing us for more
trials where other trials
00:27:19.27\00:27:22.85
a polishing of
character that the Lord
00:27:22.88\00:27:24.92
wants us to have, so
that we can live with him.
00:27:24.95\00:27:27.61
And I think we
can welcome him. Amen.
00:27:27.64\00:27:30.06
I wish you that, why
don't we pray for our viewers
00:27:30.09\00:27:33.40
and just help
them to accept it too.
00:27:33.43\00:27:37.15
We want you to join us
on Thinking about Home.
00:27:37.29\00:27:40.31
Right now, we gonna
pray for you. Pray with us
00:27:40.34\00:27:43.03
Father in heaven
as we commit our ways
00:27:45.14\00:27:48.27
to you please take our hearts.
00:27:48.30\00:27:50.48
Please help us to surrender
00:27:50.51\00:27:52.11
and father when we
accept this and we find
00:27:52.20\00:27:57.58
that you know best
for us that we will find.
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