Welcome to Thinking about Home.
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I'm Kathy Matthews and I'm glad
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that you are joining us today.
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We have a
wonderful guest with us and
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I think you will
enjoy the programs that we
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have planned for you. I want to
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read to you though about what
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our guest has been
through in her life its
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been such a rich
and full experience
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and the subject
we're going to be talking
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about is women and
surrender or anyone
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facing surrender,
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understanding relinquishment,
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exercising that relinquishment
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and putting it
into the worship of God,
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putting it into praise
after that thanking God
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for him working in
your heart to surrender to
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him those things in
your life, all things
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in your life.
And let me give you
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the background of our
guest before I introduce
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her, she spent her
earliest years in the jungles
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of Sumatra part of
the Dutch East Indies
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with her
missionary parents who were
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reaching the
Cobu tribes, formally
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headhunting,
nomad, and cannibalistic,
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until World War
II forced them out.
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They escaped through
the jungles and after
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three months of
Darjeeling submarines arrived
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safely back in
America. From there
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they sailed China
where they lived until
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after Shanghai
fell to the communists.
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After a year under
house arrest whole year
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under house
arrest they were released
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and her parents
moved to Japan to minister.
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She came back to
America for her formal education
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and married a medical
doctor who also is a son
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of missionaries to
Belgium is that right?
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That's right. In 1965
they sailed with their children
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to Hong Kong to help
setup a mission hospital for
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the medically
indigent refugees pouring
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into Hong Kong out of China.
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They now live in
New Jersey where Joe
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her husband
practices family medicine
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and they have five
grown children and their
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24th grand child
is due this spring.
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She teaches women's
Bible classes and trains other
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women to teach and
councils and speaks
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at conferences and retreats
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and she is also in the
process of writing a book
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on the wonderer's
things that had done
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and was doing during
her father's ministry.
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Arlita I want to
welcome you. Thank you Kathy.
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This Arlita Winston.
It's a privilege, and
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you've done many radio programs
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with Elisabeth
Elliot haven't you?
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That's right. And I am just
privileged to have you here.
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Well it's a privilege.
You know you had such a
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rich and full
experience and have had
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and even from your
early years you had a really
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face building
experience and a surrendering
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experience when your are early,
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when you were really
young in your early years.
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That's right. Could
you tell us about that?
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Well from I suppose
I took it in with my
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mothers milk I
learned how to love the
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Lord with all my
heart and wanted serve him
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and all through
those years I really
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expected to be able
to go back to or fore
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in mission field when
I grew up and had planned
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to go into medicine
myself. Mission in your blood.
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And that's
right. And it was there
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but I had a
very major experience
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when I was 15 I left home
to go to a boarding school
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actually when I was 14
but the experience when
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I was 15 happened
when my parents left
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us to go back to the
orient and I will never
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forget that
water shed experience
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because up until them I
have been with mother and
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daddy and my
family and it didn't
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matter whether
bombs were falling or
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whatever we were family. We were
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together and God
had sent us, God was
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going to care for
us if we died we died
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for him but when we
were living we were living
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for him but now I was
leaving and it was going
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to be on my own and
I knew it would be for
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a lot of years and
my sister and I stood
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on the dock of the ship
waving good bye to mother
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and dad and my
four little brothers
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and they would
throw these steamers
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from the deck, these
bright colored streamers
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and we would just
catch them and then we
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would cling to
them and they would,
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they would just
bound and wave in the air
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as the boat pulled
away in that siren went
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and the whistles
went and the gang
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plank went up and
there was just excitement
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in the air and of
course my grandparents were
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so thrilled because
they were sending more
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weepers out in the
harvest to bring in more,
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more people to love the Lord.
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Right. And Andrew
and I stood there though
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on the dock just weeping
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because we were
loosing mother and dad
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and our family. She
was going off to college
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and I was going out
to finish my schooling in
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High school.
Before going to college
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and that both boat
pulled out and those streamers
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pulled tighter and
tighter and when that last one
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pulled and broke
and fell into the water
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I just thought
my heart had broken
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and I really
thought somebody had died
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and I went through
such a grieving of realizing
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that they had
gone. So, on the way home
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it was a very
quite carload back home
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when we got back to
grand ma and grand pa's house
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I fled down to an
apartment of a couple
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who had always
welcomed me, Skate
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and Viren Delma and
they just opened their arms
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and I just sobbed and sobbed
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and they held me close
to them and then sat me
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down and they
opened up the scriptures.
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The particular
scripture in Matthew
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and it said and
everyone who has left houses
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or brothers or
sisters or father or mother
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or children or
fields for my sake they will
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receive a 100 times
as much and will inherit
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eternal life and
that's found in Matthew 19:29.
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That scripture
looked me full in the face.
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I can see how. And I knew right
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that in there I
had a decision to make
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I could either hold
this grief to my heart
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and nurse to my
dieing day my right to
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have a family or I
could choose to offer it up
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as a gift to my Lord
that overwhelmed me to
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think that I could
offer a gift to my Lord
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and I could choose
that day to be a part
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of what they were doing
and to sacrifice my home
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life so that somebody
else could come into the
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family of God and the
scripture just rang bells
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in my heart and set me free.
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I stood up dried my tears.
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Gave you
strength! And I went on,
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now there came
another time later on
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when I became engaged and
of course I still have not
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seen mother and dad
since then so I went
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through those years
without mother and daddy.
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It did last that
long then. Yes. Alright.
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And there came that
time when I was engaged
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to be married and
here I had been planning
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to go into medicine
and he looked at me one day
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and he said Arleta I
don't want to come home to
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a doctor I want to
come at home to a wife
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and to the mother
of my children. Amen.
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And I listened to
that and it was just
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another
opportunity to say yes, Lord.
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I offer this up as
a gift, I don't know
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what you're going to
do but I offer it up,
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I relinquish all the
plans that I have made.
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I believe this is
what you want me to do.
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Was it a simple
struggle at that time though
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did you fight? I
didn't fight it for long.
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Did it come easier
though? It did come easier
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I think because of
the earlier relinquishment
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that God had
woofed in my heart and
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I was beginning to
understand the very principle
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that when we
relinquish some thing that we
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have planned our
agenda in the light of
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something that
God is going to do
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so much greater
that we may not have
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clear sight as to
what he is going to do
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but we just now deepen
our hearts that God's ways
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are better than our ways.
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Then it lightens a
Lord and you look with
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anticipation. I
believe we can look with
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anticipation that
the gift we've offered,
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the gift that he
accepts and then he turns
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something
beautiful out of what we have
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offered may be far
greater than what we
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had planned ourselves.
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I think Paul must
talk about the trails
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and joy and trials
too and that probably
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would fit your
situation looking for,
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I think so. Not,
not denying them to come
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along or guarding
yourself so much that they can't
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allowing the Lord
to work in this. To
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develop character to
make us ready to live with
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angels don't you
think? Yes little bit I
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know that he was
developing that character
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in me a promises
of relinquishment
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and acceptance
of something better
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which would
result in my utter prays
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to who he is?
Right. And what he can do?
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And that's an
experience that you can rely
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on for future and
each time you can have
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a stronger face that
will help you get through
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what's coming. And
that did you mean that
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I didn't miss mother
and daddy? Not at all.
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The grief and the
anguish at different times
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but I always knew
where my home was.
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And I like that,
that you said that you
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work together you
would do this so that
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you could be
together in your efforts for
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others to come into
the family of God. Yes,
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in fact years later
when you mentioned that I
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was writing a
book years later I was
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sitting with my
father and a micro phone
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over a table,
listening to the stories.
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Of his side? Yes. Of
all the wonderful things
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that God had done
through these years
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through mother and
daddy and I was taking
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them all down on tapes
so that I could be writing
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about them and at that
point I felt the presence of
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the Lord standing
with me and saying
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Arleta do you remember that day
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when the streamers
broke and your heart broke
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that day when
you gave your parents
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to me as a gift and
your right to have a family
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and I said yes
Lord by now the tears
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were spilling down
my cheeks and dad was
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wondering what I
was crying about and
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the Lord
continued speaking to me
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and said you're only
seeing a very small part
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of that 100 fold
that I've given you.
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Oh! yes and I'm sure
that is a wonderful conclusion
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or confirmation. A
confirmation of what
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you've done
there. And totally by
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surprise show me that
the beauty of that sacrifice.
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Think of family
though to it doesn't have to
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be if you choose and
you surrender to the Lord.
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If you're
working on that together
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family does not have to
be together to be family.
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No. You know you
were just as much family
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and longed for that
closeness by being a part.
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I can remember
one time Kathy where
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I was in just
desperation as to what college
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I should go to and
I was waiting for that
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transatlantic
telephone call to come early
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in the morning and
waiting to hear that voice
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crackling over in
those days she didn't
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get clear calls and
it was a Christmas time
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and I heard mother
coming on the phone
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and she said merry
Christmas sweetheart
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and the government
of our lives is upon
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his shoulders. Amen.
And then she quoted that
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Verse from Isaiah
9:6, that his name will be
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called wonderful
councilor, the mighty God,
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the everlasting
father, the prince of
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peace and
government of my life was upon
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his shoulder and
so mother and dad had
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to have they'll see
the same kind of grief
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in a different of
relinquishing their
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children in the same way that
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I had relinquish my parents.
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I will be glad to
read your book when
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it comes out because
I like to see their side
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being a mother I'd
like to see their side
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of the relinquish. I
had a similar experience
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not so far a
part but still a part
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with our older
daughter when she went home
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school for 10 years
with her all ways together.
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Everyday not
getting up and going off on
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a business where
you'd ever were a custom to
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that daily
separation and you can't do that
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unless you have a
great deal of tolerance
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a great deal of patients
and love for your children to
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be around you at all times.
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And there came the
time that we decided
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the cause of her
social and leadership ability,
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she really needed
to go on and she chose
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to go to school and
in a private academy
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and we drove her
away and the whole trip
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was probably 13 hours
or so and I may be more
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and in the car we
would have music and
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there was a piece a
violin piece that she
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had played and
every I heard ir that day
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and I'm about to cry
now every time I heard it
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my I ate inside because I knew
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I wouldn't be hearing
her, don't hear any more.
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I know that she will.
But it went eventually,
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but when we came
back home we would pass by
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her bedroom and
it was like a deaf,
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it was like a
desert family, but I had
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to relinquish that.
I had to get over that
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and I had to give it to
the Lord that she would be
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alright and I am very
glad that she is, what
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the Lord has made
up her today and she
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has seen that as a,
that grows and family
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experience and this
come to lot of family all
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the more, but now
I wanted to ask you,
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you have all
these rich experiences
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and we're gonna
hear much more of them
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but there is,
has there been a time
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when you did not
easily relinquish,
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yes, did you had trouble
surrendering to the Lord.
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Yes, it wasn't in the
early days it was much later
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and in fact it was
after we had five children
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and had been on the
mission field and we felt
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great dismay and discouragement,
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they are on the
mission field at not being able
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to see what we had
hoped would happen on
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the mission field and
we actually because we did
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not handled that
correctly that turned into
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bitterness in our
hearts and that provided the
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atmosphere for my
personal rebellion
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and a rebellion in
going along with what God
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wanted and with
what my husband wanted
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and those churn I
found ourselves in a period
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of time or for your
period where we would
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deeply alienated from God.
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On no small time. No
small area. No small time.
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It was for long
years which seemed liked
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eternity and were
alienated from our
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families, we were
alienated from God.
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Through your feelings,
through the bitterness?
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Yes. I see. Yes. And we
decided to get God's work
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done in our own way
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and which was a major
mistake and it let us into
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sin, it us let
us into alienation
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and yeah during
that time I did not sense
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that God had left us
but that he was allowing us
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to go through this
to really discover what
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it was going to be
like to be without him
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and doing it our
own way and one time
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I was coming down then we were
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up in the mountains
about 7000 feet up in
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big bare lake
California and I was coming down
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the mountains one
day alone and I was just
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ogling down as fast
as I could around those
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hairpin curves and
I saw the storm clouds
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gathering and I
knew snow was coming
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and I knew it
wouldn't be long and sure
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enough it wasn't
three minutes before my
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windshield was
discovered with snow
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and I could hardly
see three to four feet
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ahead of me and I
saw a little light
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Oh! those were those sticks
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that were pounded into
the mountain side long ago
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when this world was
built they told me about
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it when we moved
up here that when a
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snow storm came
sometimes you just
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could not see the road.
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Yes. And of course
that was 7000 feet cascading
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below you and so
here I was blinded
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by the snow, I
couldn't stop there was no
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way to turn around,
I knew if I did stop
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someone would come in behind me
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but I knew there was
one thing those sticks
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with a light right
ahead of me if I could keep
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my eye on that stick
I would stay on the road
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and I could see
about two sticks ahead
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so I knew where I had
to go and for three hours
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I just hold the wheel
like this and just starred
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to watch those
sticks and walked to my way
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inch by inch down but not inside
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and during the
terror of those hours
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as I would catch one
light and then the next,
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and then the next God
began speaking to my heart.
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He said Arleta you're
in a storm of your life
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and you've lost
your moorings completely.
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Someone very wise
years ago placed these
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sticks here so that
you wouldn't fall off the
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mountain side and
you're going to come through
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because I'm gonna help
you to see those lights,
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but somebody wise
is still putting sticks
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before the
foundation of the world.
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Amen. Amen. And
those sticks were meant
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to keep you on the
straight and narrow road
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that road that
leads to life instead of
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destruction and you need
to get back to those sticks
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Arleta, you need to get
back and look for those sticks
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that I have placed
there to keep you on the road,
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to keep you from crashing below
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and it wasn't long after that
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God really met me
and there was a Verse
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that came to me in John 14:23
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if anyone loves me he
will obey my teaching,
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my father will love
him and we will come to him
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and we will make
our home with him
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and at that point
when I had missed moorings
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I didn't love him
and I wasn't obeying him
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and I knew that the
first thing I needed to do
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was to confess that to
relinquish my own plans,
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to relinquish my
way of doing things
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and to get back to
him and then he would
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help me to get
back on the right way.
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And I began thinking
about and I just what
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are those sticks hat
God has planted there.
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Well, was any of
this having to do with
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any wifely
rebellion towards your husband
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during this time? Yes,
because my husband felt
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that we should be
doing a certain thing
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and I didn't, during
the whole four years or, yes
00:21:43.82\00:21:48.50
and we did go
ahead and do what he felt
00:21:48.53\00:21:52.88
we should do but
then I decided alright
00:21:52.91\00:21:55.60
if you're going to do
that I will do my thing.
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I see. And I did to all
of our near destruction.
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And it was only
God, who could deliver us
00:22:04.93\00:22:10.78
out of what we got
ourselves into but it was coming
00:22:10.81\00:22:14.18
back to those sticks
that helped me to get back
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on course during this four years
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we were just nearly
destroyed because of our
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disobedience and thinking
that we knew better than
00:22:25.89\00:22:28.72
God and then one
thing led to another
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I think if I had seen
the end at the beginning
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I never would have
gone down that path.
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But the Lord doesn't
always allow us that.
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No. And teaches us,
it certainly teaches us.
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So when thinking
about just what are those
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sticks that God
does plant there,
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I feel that there is
some major stakes in my life
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I look back on that
have been anchors for me
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and one is the fear of the Lord.
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And the fear of the Lord
is the beginning of wisdom.
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And the fear of the
Lord is to hate evil
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and enmity in us. He
would enmity in us a hatred
00:23:07.43\00:23:13.07
toward sin. And I
needed that and I needed
00:23:13.10\00:23:17.30
to recognize and
admit to God that even
00:23:17.33\00:23:20.87
though I enjoyed
what I was doing it
00:23:20.90\00:23:22.91
was at enmity with him
and I needed to relinquish it
00:23:22.94\00:23:27.23
and confess it a
sin and saying God
00:23:27.26\00:23:29.95
I don't want to do this,
I don't to want to let go
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of my own ways.
It's going to kill me
00:23:32.69\00:23:35.87
to let go of my
own way and God says
00:23:35.90\00:23:38.99
sure enough it's
going to kill you.
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And he says
anyone would follow me
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let him pick up
his Cross deny himself,
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follow me, obey me,
and then in the very
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obeying of him he
comes in and resides in us
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and makes a home in
us which I was wanting
00:24:02.69\00:24:07.75
desperately. And so
the fear of the Lord
00:24:07.78\00:24:09.94
relinquishing of
our own agenda accepting
00:24:09.97\00:24:13.53
his is being so
much greater than ours
00:24:13.56\00:24:17.22
and then being able to
worship him and praise and
00:24:17.25\00:24:22.46
thanks giving and in
end I think in anticipation
00:24:22.49\00:24:25.75
of what he was going to
do even though we didn't
00:24:25.78\00:24:27.65
think that it was going
to be as good as our idea.
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And you want to go
onto cover some stakes
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before we have
close the program.
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Can you do that? Relinquishmentx
00:24:35.20\00:24:36.17
of our agenda. Yes.
Accepting God's purposes
00:24:38.82\00:24:44.41
And then anticipating
with praise and worship
00:24:44.44\00:24:48.63
for who he is
because its not the situation
00:24:48.66\00:24:51.59
that we are so new
and to be concerned
00:24:51.62\00:24:54.33
about its who God is
and what he is going to do
00:24:54.36\00:24:57.28
with us is poor
miserable creatures.
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Well let's cover a little
bit about that relinquishment,
00:25:00.19\00:25:04.87
a little bit more
and that acceptance and
00:25:04.90\00:25:07.68
that praise we have
a little bit more time.
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What more can you
help us to understand
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about those
stakes. Well, I think of
00:25:12.29\00:25:15.44
two women in the old
testament that remind me
00:25:18.00\00:25:22.49
of those who had big
stakes and that they lost
00:25:22.52\00:25:27.90
them and then
they gained them again
00:25:27.93\00:25:30.35
and that was Sarah and Eve
00:25:30.38\00:25:34.13
both had husbands
who communed with God,
00:25:35.20\00:25:38.01
both for women
who were beautiful,
00:25:38.04\00:25:40.34
they both had to
leave their homes,
00:25:40.37\00:25:43.48
they both took
things into their own hands,
00:25:43.51\00:25:46.95
they both found out
that they ran him up,
00:25:46.98\00:25:51.49
and they messed
things up royally
00:25:51.52\00:25:55.92
and God had to
intervene somewhere along
00:25:55.95\00:25:59.62
the line. We know
that Eve finally accepted
00:25:59.65\00:26:03.61
because her son Abel
was taught on the ways of
00:26:03.64\00:26:08.52
the Lord and he
offered a perfect sacrifice
00:26:08.55\00:26:10.79
and then her
grandson, Enos says that after
00:26:10.82\00:26:14.17
he was born men truly
began to call upon the
00:26:14.20\00:26:18.76
name of the Lord and
if you call on the name
00:26:18.79\00:26:21.37
of the Lord that
means you're not the Lord,
00:26:21.40\00:26:23.71
you are calling
on him to be the Lord
00:26:23.74\00:26:26.49
and the Sarah of
course. She to me
00:26:26.52\00:26:31.35
is a prime example who at first,
00:26:31.38\00:26:34.42
she didn't believe
and yet she is the one
00:26:34.45\00:26:36.66
who is noted in
the 11 Chapter of
00:26:36.69\00:26:39.88
Hebrews as being a
women of such faith
00:26:39.91\00:26:43.27
because she
called her husband Lord.
00:26:43.30\00:26:47.15
She submitted to
him. Now can you imagine
00:26:47.18\00:26:50.95
calling your husband
Lord when he has just
00:26:50.98\00:26:55.26
palmed you off
on to a heathen king
00:26:55.29\00:26:58.01
and it was amazing that
she could call him Lord.
00:26:58.04\00:27:01.12
Yes and we wives
are asked to be like
00:27:01.15\00:27:04.03
Sarah and I first
Peter 3, 5 and 6 it says
00:27:04.06\00:27:08.19
they were submissive
to their own husbands like
00:27:08.22\00:27:10.16
Sarah who obeyed
Abraham and called him
00:27:10.19\00:27:13.17
her Lord goes on
to say that you do it
00:27:13.20\00:27:16.26
without fear because
its not your husbands
00:27:16.29\00:27:19.09
you're trusting it's
the Lord your trusting.
00:27:19.12\00:27:21.30
That's right. And
that's who we need to
00:27:21.33\00:27:23.16
trust isn't it
and it gives us hope,
00:27:23.19\00:27:26.14
we're going to be talking more
00:27:26.17\00:27:28.74
about women as
wives women and surrender
00:27:28.77\00:27:31.84
aren't they and we
want our viewers to join in
00:27:31.87\00:27:34.61
that way we do yes.
We've got a lot to share
00:27:34.64\00:27:37.65
because it's hopeful.
It is hopeful and as you
00:27:37.68\00:27:41.88
try to put these
things into your lives
00:27:41.91\00:27:45.35
and you pray
about women as wives
00:27:45.38\00:27:48.45
and in surrender I pray
that it will be joist thing
00:27:48.48\00:27:52.72
to you too. And our
ladies gonna be back with
00:27:52.75\00:27:54.77
us next time and
I want you to join
00:27:54.80\00:27:57.07
us on Thinking about Home.
00:27:57.10\00:27:58.76