Welcome to Thinking about Home. 00:00:32.38\00:00:33.60 I'm Kathy Matthews and we are thinking about 00:00:34.20\00:00:36.93 our heavenly home and in preparation for our heavenly 00:00:36.96\00:00:40.62 home we've been talking about submission, surrender, 00:00:40.65\00:00:43.71 women in surrender, and we have Paula Woodruff 00:00:44.72\00:00:47.38 with us again. And I wanna thank you Paula 00:00:47.41\00:00:49.58 for being here again. Very welcome. 00:00:49.61\00:00:51.88 We want to cover the most complete submission 00:00:51.91\00:00:55.78 in Christ don't we and we want to talk about your 00:00:57.30\00:01:01.65 story or not your story today, but that you have had 00:01:01.68\00:01:05.94 a story and surrender and that this surrender 00:01:05.97\00:01:09.73 has been largely learned through surrendering 00:01:09.76\00:01:12.73 to your husband. And then the reason for this 00:01:12.76\00:01:16.45 surrender, so why is it that we need to surrender? 00:01:16.48\00:01:21.58 When we are not surrendered we are full of ourselves 00:01:23.16\00:01:25.95 and when we are full ourselves then we are not 00:01:26.80\00:01:28.27 full of Christ. And the only way that a sinner can truly 00:01:28.30\00:01:32.39 come to know and understand God is to be filled 00:01:32.42\00:01:35.57 with Christ. And so this whole process that God 00:01:35.60\00:01:39.05 has designed allows us to learn to die to ourselves, 00:01:39.08\00:01:43.48 to submit ourselves to those in authority over us. 00:01:43.51\00:01:47.41 And at the same time, we learn how to submit 00:01:48.08\00:01:52.26 ourselves to God. To Christ. Ultimately yes. 00:01:52.29\00:01:54.77 And in the church, our family in surrender, 00:01:54.80\00:01:57.27 ourselves in surrender, our spouses in ourselves 00:01:57.30\00:02:00.84 in surrender, our family in surrender and surrender 00:02:00.87\00:02:03.60 to the Church and Christ. Yes. It carries over. 00:02:03.63\00:02:05.86 The women finding her role of surrender in the home 00:02:05.89\00:02:10.47 is so important because it doesn't just stop there. 00:02:10.50\00:02:13.70 Just like when you throw a stone into a lake 00:02:13.73\00:02:16.66 and you see how it ripples. The way a women relates 00:02:16.69\00:02:21.31 to her family and to her husband carries over into 00:02:21.34\00:02:24.97 the way she relates to her duties and roles 00:02:25.00\00:02:28.13 in the Church. That's true. 00:02:28.16\00:02:29.97 And in the community and so if a women is prideful 00:02:30.00\00:02:32.97 and filled with herself and full of the controlling 00:02:33.00\00:02:36.36 spirit, which I have been, I struggled with that, 00:02:36.39\00:02:39.17 then I am hindered in my work and sharing the Gospel. 00:02:41.30\00:02:44.03 Also in heaven, we have a society that we are looking 00:02:46.37\00:02:50.39 forward to in which everyone will serve each other. 00:02:50.42\00:02:53.54 Right, right. I'm glad you brought that up? 00:02:53.57\00:02:56.60 So, I once heard a story of someone who saw some people 00:02:56.84\00:03:02.88 and these people were very miserable and they 00:03:04.75\00:03:07.25 were sitting around a stewpot. Right. 00:03:07.28\00:03:09.61 And they were all very, very hungry and they wanted 00:03:09.64\00:03:11.98 to eat and he wondered why they were so hungry 00:03:12.01\00:03:16.28 when there was this stewpot seeing in the middle 00:03:16.31\00:03:18.74 of their group; full of wonderful food and the smell 00:03:18.77\00:03:22.37 was just coming out of this cauldron and smelled so good. 00:03:22.40\00:03:26.27 And he realized that everyone had spoons that were 00:03:27.49\00:03:30.50 the length of their arms and they were frustrated 00:03:30.53\00:03:34.48 and they were very thin and unhappy and then he 00:03:34.51\00:03:38.39 was shown a different group and this group was smiling 00:03:38.42\00:03:40.95 and happy and singing praises and they were so happy 00:03:40.98\00:03:43.97 and their stewpot was quickly becoming empty. 00:03:44.00\00:03:46.67 Can you realize... How was it done? 00:03:48.50\00:03:49.76 You realize the difference was the people who were 00:03:50.40\00:03:52.65 so miserable were trying to feed themselves with 00:03:52.68\00:03:56.73 these long spoons and as a result they were starving, 00:03:56.76\00:03:59.18 but the others have learned that in giving 00:04:00.18\00:04:03.06 we receive and so they were feeding each other 00:04:03.09\00:04:06.53 with the spoons and it has to be that kind 00:04:07.39\00:04:09.99 of a situation both in the home and in the church. 00:04:10.02\00:04:13.42 Alright. When we are feeding each other. 00:04:13.96\00:04:15.06 When my husband loves me as God has called him 00:04:16.00\00:04:21.14 to love me, which Jeremy has been very quick to learn 00:04:21.67\00:04:26.07 these lessons and apply them in the home and it 00:04:26.10\00:04:28.46 has been a great blessing to me. 00:04:28.49\00:04:29.74 Now, that he has learned to love me as Christ loves 00:04:31.35\00:04:35.92 the Church, it frees me up to serve him as Christ 00:04:35.95\00:04:40.08 served the Church and so in order for her husband 00:04:40.86\00:04:44.17 or wife to live out the roles that God would 00:04:44.20\00:04:47.09 have them live we have to turn to Christ and we see it 00:04:47.12\00:04:51.31 through our scripture that while Christ was here on 00:04:51.34\00:04:54.67 earth, he lived out both the submissive role of the husband 00:04:55.44\00:04:58.50 and the submissive role of the wife. 00:04:59.37\00:05:01.41 I think that's interesting, you should bring that up. 00:05:01.44\00:05:03.62 Now, it was a problem for the Scribes and Pharisees 00:05:03.85\00:05:08.08 and religious leaders of that day because these were men, 00:05:08.11\00:05:11.21 who were very full of self and they had a difficult time 00:05:12.02\00:05:15.18 even recognizing their savior. Right. 00:05:16.08\00:05:18.24 Because they were so selfish and self serving. 00:05:18.27\00:05:22.04 And we see that in Matthew 11:29 Christ says 00:05:23.26\00:05:29.72 that Come to me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, 00:05:32.07\00:05:34.15 and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, 00:05:34.18\00:05:36.97 and learn from me, for I am gentle and lovely in heart, 00:05:37.00\00:05:39.86 and you will find rest for your souls. 00:05:39.89\00:05:42.19 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light. 00:05:42.22\00:05:44.54 And this is something that the Scribes and Pharisees 00:05:45.45\00:05:47.56 could not accept about Christ they were looking 00:05:47.59\00:05:50.91 for a savior who would come and pop. 00:05:50.94\00:05:53.60 Would be a ruler. Yes and with glory. At that point. 00:05:54.36\00:05:58.59 Someone, yes who would be a conqueror for them and, 00:05:58.62\00:06:01.29 and indulge them in their selfish pursuits. Right. 00:06:01.32\00:06:05.93 And when Christ came being the humble and submissive, 00:06:06.15\00:06:09.75 so that he was starting to recognize. 00:06:09.78\00:06:12.78 He was guiding to them. I think. Yes. 00:06:12.81\00:06:13.78 And it frustrated them. And they felt threatened 00:06:13.79\00:06:15.97 because here was a Christ, here was a Christ that was 00:06:16.00\00:06:19.50 challenging them lay down your life and take up mine. 00:06:19.53\00:06:24.16 It was not what they were accustomed to. 00:06:24.19\00:06:25.89 No, they did not want to do that and they were also 00:06:25.92\00:06:29.19 so tired to the works of their own hands that they 00:06:29.22\00:06:32.43 couldn't see the Christ could free them from this. 00:06:32.46\00:06:34.47 Their yokes were heavy and their burdens 00:06:35.34\00:06:37.25 were heavy because they could not come to accept 00:06:37.28\00:06:39.75 this in humility. And so it is our prayer as Christians 00:06:39.78\00:06:43.96 that can all humble ourselves in the side of the Lord 00:06:43.99\00:06:47.42 and then be able to understand greater truth because 00:06:47.45\00:06:52.05 we are not filled with the pursuits of this world. 00:06:52.08\00:06:55.46 Did you have a quote from Adventist Home there 00:06:57.59\00:07:00.58 that you wanted to share on forbearance. Yes, I did. 00:07:00.61\00:07:03.09 The forbearance that we give to each other 00:07:05.04\00:07:07.92 as husband and wife in the home has to be the same 00:07:07.95\00:07:10.98 forbearance that we use when we are at Church 00:07:11.01\00:07:13.43 in the Church setting. There must be a forbearance between 00:07:13.46\00:07:16.48 the deacons and deaconesses and the pastor 00:07:16.51\00:07:20.27 and the congregation. Which is really again 00:07:20.30\00:07:24.33 an attitude of submission is it? 00:07:24.36\00:07:27.03 Yes it is. And considering one above another. 00:07:27.06\00:07:28.96 Yes. And see the beauty of this system that God 00:07:29.38\00:07:32.73 has established is when you are serving me and you 00:07:32.76\00:07:37.02 are caring for my needs, I then freed to serve others. 00:07:37.05\00:07:40.54 I don't have to worry about taking care of myself 00:07:41.34\00:07:43.35 anymore and so in preparing for the kingdom of heaven, 00:07:44.15\00:07:47.64 we are trying to bring ourselves into the submissive 00:07:48.92\00:07:50.85 world, so that we can experience heaven now. And 00:07:50.88\00:07:54.43 be fit to live with angels. Yes. Yes to do this. 00:07:54.46\00:07:58.35 On page 118 of the Adventist Home, 00:07:59.23\00:08:00.75 if you have it you're welcome to follow along talking 00:08:01.39\00:08:04.70 about Mutual Forbearance, it says we must have 00:08:04.73\00:08:06.88 the spirit of God that we can never have harmony 00:08:06.91\00:08:09.18 in the home and this could carry over into the Church. 00:08:09.21\00:08:11.91 The wife if she has the spirit of Christ will be careful 00:08:12.59\00:08:14.98 of her words. Oh, I'm so guilty not sticking to that. 00:08:15.01\00:08:19.30 She will control her spirit, she would be submissive 00:08:21.41\00:08:24.27 and yet will not feel that she is a bond slave, 00:08:24.88\00:08:26.88 but a companion to her husband. 00:08:27.54\00:08:29.23 And here again I think they were establishing 00:08:29.74\00:08:31.15 that the man and the woman were created equal, 00:08:31.18\00:08:34.10 but different, we both specialize in different areas 00:08:35.38\00:08:38.85 and we lose something as women when we make 00:08:39.47\00:08:44.49 our focus in life being better then men like being males. 00:08:44.52\00:08:48.76 Right. You know I remember something that I read 00:08:49.29\00:08:53.71 recently that its women who always trying to take the 00:08:53.74\00:08:59.39 roles of the man, but do you ever you rarely, 00:08:59.42\00:09:03.47 you rarely see the man ever want to take a role 00:09:03.50\00:09:06.90 of a women. It's always the women for the man. 00:09:06.93\00:09:10.89 That is interesting. And I think that's well 00:09:11.72\00:09:14.96 it says to me that God has his plan all around the world 00:09:16.49\00:09:21.76 and it's not something that he really wanted to happen. 00:09:22.50\00:09:26.30 And I think too, it speaks too. I think deep inside 00:09:27.45\00:09:31.16 everyone we know in a sense what we are to be. But 00:09:31.19\00:09:35.12 yet societies tells us that we ought to be something 00:09:35.15\00:09:37.88 else and this I think is important in the way we dress 00:09:37.91\00:09:42.80 because it's important for a young lady to embrace 00:09:42.83\00:09:46.53 womanhood to say I am proud to be a woman. That's 00:09:46.56\00:09:50.45 right. So, I as a mother have been challenged 00:09:50.48\00:09:53.31 to present motherhood and womanhood as a joyful 00:09:53.34\00:09:57.42 experience not as a burden. Not as something that 00:09:57.45\00:10:01.21 I resent, this is something that I love and I do I guess 00:10:01.24\00:10:06.71 I could say that I do believe in women's liberation, 00:10:06.74\00:10:09.04 but not in the sense that it's understood today. 00:10:09.97\00:10:12.17 Right. But, in accepting God's original design 00:10:12.20\00:10:15.02 for what I was to be that is liberating. Yes. 00:10:16.08\00:10:19.72 That is true freedom for me. And I think if there 00:10:19.75\00:10:25.23 are women out there today who are struggling in their 00:10:25.26\00:10:28.82 marriage and things just do not feel right there seems 00:10:28.85\00:10:33.52 like something is missing and you know there should 00:10:33.55\00:10:36.20 be more to your marriage then what it is. 00:10:36.23\00:10:39.61 I challenge you to study this for yourself and see if 00:10:39.64\00:10:44.62 maybe some of the cause for your distress is that you 00:10:44.65\00:10:48.29 have not learned to live the role that God 00:10:48.32\00:10:50.24 has designed. And hopefully that would be in homes, 00:10:50.27\00:10:53.64 where a husband will seek out the same studying. 00:10:53.67\00:10:57.00 Yes. And but he doesn't have to be just in a home 00:10:57.03\00:11:01.11 where there is a husband this can be a single women... 00:11:01.96\00:11:05.77 Yes. Who needs to understand this as well. 00:11:05.80\00:11:07.93 Yes. It could be a young person, who is maybe watching 00:11:08.71\00:11:10.74 the program and it might inspire them to pick up 00:11:10.77\00:11:13.94 the Bible and start reading and learning. 00:11:13.97\00:11:15.74 What is my place and I'm not saying putting you in your 00:11:16.45\00:11:21.04 place as if you are lower than, but where should I, 00:11:21.07\00:11:24.58 where will I grow best. Yes. 00:11:24.61\00:11:26.87 How does God want me to be? That is a question 00:11:26.90\00:11:29.33 that I think many people have not realized they need 00:11:29.36\00:11:33.58 to ask yet. So many times we get comfortable 00:11:33.61\00:11:36.95 with where we are at and if we would just take time 00:11:37.62\00:11:40.56 in solitude in prayer to really analyze where we are 00:11:40.59\00:11:44.14 in our life. Perhaps the Lord has more that he would 00:11:44.17\00:11:48.36 like to show us. I think so. 00:11:48.39\00:11:49.88 And I think you know for me this has been the key 00:11:50.43\00:11:53.33 to a knocking a whole treasure chest of joy. 00:11:53.36\00:11:55.57 And I think that in presenting going back to presenting 00:11:57.24\00:12:00.99 a positive role for children, I, I do my very best to live 00:12:01.02\00:12:08.00 out womanhood in front of my daughters part of that 00:12:08.03\00:12:12.70 includes being feminine. Wearing a dress and doing 00:12:12.73\00:12:17.17 my hair and trying to learn some of the feminine graces 00:12:17.20\00:12:20.22 that we have lost side off. I grew up being a tomboy, 00:12:20.25\00:12:23.39 I was very good at sports and I can still climb a tree 00:12:23.42\00:12:27.76 and ride a horse with the best of him. 00:12:27.79\00:12:29.91 Right and still you would. 00:12:29.94\00:12:31.20 And yes. So, I am not saying that becoming a woman 00:12:31.23\00:12:34.14 means you can no longer enjoy things that men do. 00:12:34.17\00:12:38.17 That's so pleasant like that. 00:12:38.20\00:12:39.33 Yes, and I certainly don't wanna say that, 00:12:39.93\00:12:41.98 that for a women to wear pants that would be a sin 00:12:42.01\00:12:45.10 or anything like that. I think that they are extremes that 00:12:45.13\00:12:48.24 we can go to with this and we certainly don't wanna 00:12:48.27\00:12:50.82 health balance in all these things. 00:12:50.85\00:12:54.43 It says, we cannot cherish home affection with too much 00:12:58.17\00:13:01.43 care for the home, if the Spirit of Lord dwells there, 00:13:01.46\00:13:04.17 is a type of heaven. And in any of these sayings 00:13:04.20\00:13:08.73 we can substitute the word home for the word Church. 00:13:08.76\00:13:11.45 Our Church is to be a type of heaven. If one airs, 00:13:12.91\00:13:15.93 the other will exercise Christ like forbearance 00:13:15.96\00:13:18.65 and not draw coldly away. Neither the husband nor 00:13:18.68\00:13:21.54 the wife should attempt to exercise over the other 00:13:21.57\00:13:23.78 in arbitrary control. Do not try to compel each other 00:13:23.81\00:13:27.12 to yield to your wishes. This carries over into our 00:13:27.15\00:13:30.26 Church family, in that some of us are convicted differently 00:13:30.29\00:13:33.61 than others and we certainly seeing different levels 00:13:33.64\00:13:37.35 of growth. Right. In different people and so we cannot 00:13:37.38\00:13:40.56 try to force someone's conscious on an issue. 00:13:40.59\00:13:43.77 For example if I am convicted on something and you 00:13:44.83\00:13:46.74 are not, it is not my place to pressure 00:13:46.77\00:13:49.84 you and try and compel you to yield your conscious 00:13:49.87\00:13:53.75 to me, no. This is the work of the Holly Spirit. 00:13:53.78\00:13:56.20 Yes. While we share what would be the best thing 00:13:57.35\00:14:00.37 like right now. Yes. We are sharing what it is 00:14:00.40\00:14:04.33 for a woman to seek out her role as Christ 00:14:04.36\00:14:08.31 would have her to be and that way you're doing 00:14:08.34\00:14:14.82 what you're fulfilling that growth process in the Church, 00:14:14.85\00:14:20.98 where we can work together. 00:14:21.01\00:14:24.92 Yes. But if the husband is to compel the wife's conscious 00:14:24.95\00:14:28.54 then she is doing it for her husband and not onto God. 00:14:28.57\00:14:30.64 And so in the Church setting convictions needed 00:14:31.55\00:14:36.10 to be lift out for God not for because of your peer 00:14:36.13\00:14:39.10 pressure from other people. 00:14:39.13\00:14:40.49 We're desired to do, have the virtuous thing. Yes. 00:14:40.52\00:14:44.58 You cannot do this compel each other and retain 00:14:45.44\00:14:48.38 each other's love. Be kind, patient, forbearing, 00:14:48.41\00:14:51.54 consider it, and courteous. By the grace of God 00:14:51.57\00:14:54.55 you can succeed in making each other happy, 00:14:54.58\00:14:56.68 as in your marriage vow you promised to do. 00:14:56.71\00:14:59.09 And speaking of marriage vows. 00:14:59.12\00:15:00.94 They are different today aren't they. 00:15:03.14\00:15:04.16 Yes. They are they've changed a lot and when my husband 00:15:04.19\00:15:07.37 and I were married, I was just adamant that I was 00:15:07.40\00:15:11.12 not going to promise to obey, there is a word in there 00:15:11.15\00:15:15.65 when the women gives her vows to her husband 00:15:15.68\00:15:17.75 where I would love, honor and obey and I said 00:15:17.78\00:15:20.86 no way. Really, Yes. For me it just held a terrible meaning, 00:15:20.89\00:15:28.52 obey? And I could just Especially you? 00:15:28.55\00:15:31.97 Yes especially me, being involved with the feminism. 00:15:32.00\00:15:35.74 I would say, I was thinking though if though on the 00:15:36.44\00:15:39.75 woman side to say to obey you, when he might 00:15:39.78\00:15:44.95 not have all those things in gear. Yes. 00:15:44.98\00:15:50.14 To show us or where we would won't obey him, 00:15:51.30\00:15:54.10 this is what I mean is more in the woman side, 00:15:54.13\00:15:56.83 wondering about how she have to obey him. Yes 00:15:57.98\00:15:59.51 And starting our marriage, you know, there were, 00:15:59.54\00:16:02.94 there were many weaknesses in my husband 00:16:02.97\00:16:04.70 that I saw and I thought, you know. 00:16:04.73\00:16:07.13 Why should I submit to him, look at all the things 00:16:08.40\00:16:10.84 that he does not have together. Right. 00:16:10.87\00:16:12.97 And what he didn't realize was that in being critical 00:16:13.00\00:16:15.68 and not taking my place as the women. 00:16:15.71\00:16:19.77 Was making it worse. I was telling him down. 00:16:19.80\00:16:21.10 Right. And making him a lot worse because 00:16:21.13\00:16:23.10 lot of his problem stem from not having any confidence 00:16:23.13\00:16:25.97 and so confidence is not developed through heavy 00:16:26.00\00:16:31.24 criticism, which is what I was putting him under. 00:16:31.27\00:16:35.62 Right and this Mutual Forbearance helps. 00:16:36.44\00:16:38.03 Yes. It does. It has helped immensely. 00:16:38.06\00:16:40.33 By the grace of God you can succeed in making 00:16:42.76\00:16:44.58 each other happy and that is a promise I believe that 00:16:44.61\00:16:48.61 and if there is a joy in knowing that you are helping 00:16:48.64\00:16:52.82 someone else feel happy. There are so many things 00:16:52.85\00:16:55.55 in this world that we can feel miserable over and so 00:16:55.58\00:16:59.14 that's quite a gift that you can give to each other. 00:16:59.17\00:17:01.07 Right. In the married life, men and women sometimes act 00:17:02.75\00:17:04.44 like undisciplined, perverse children same happens in 00:17:04.47\00:17:08.39 our Church family. Isn't that so? 00:17:08.42\00:17:09.87 The husband wants his way and the wife wants her way, 00:17:10.59\00:17:12.68 and neither are willing to yield. Such a condition 00:17:12.71\00:17:16.66 of things can bring only the greatest unhappiness. 00:17:16.69\00:17:18.89 Both husband and wife should be willing to yield his or her 00:17:19.47\00:17:21.74 way or opinion. There, no we didn't say yield conviction. 00:17:21.77\00:17:25.59 Right. And I think we need to make a distinction there. 00:17:26.32\00:17:28.85 Right. I'm glad you made that point. 00:17:29.55\00:17:30.52 Because there are women who become believers 00:17:30.53\00:17:33.36 and their husbands are nonbelievers and then 00:17:33.39\00:17:35.62 there arises the question why because he does not believe, 00:17:35.65\00:17:38.07 but he is the man and the head of our household. 00:17:38.10\00:17:40.65 Should I surrender my convictions and that goes back 00:17:40.68\00:17:44.10 to what we mentioned in an earlier program, no, 00:17:44.13\00:17:46.14 your convictions and your individuality belong to God 00:17:46.17\00:17:49.36 and God alone. Okay, but through your loving submission 00:17:49.39\00:17:54.13 to your husband in areas that are not areas of conviction 00:17:54.16\00:17:58.46 you may bring your husband into your belief. 00:17:58.49\00:18:02.06 You may woo him. By your chaste behavior. 00:18:02.09\00:18:04.97 Yes. Love people can resist anger, you know, 00:18:05.00\00:18:09.53 if someone comes to you and approaches you with anger 00:18:09.56\00:18:11.59 there is an immediate wall put up. 00:18:11.62\00:18:12.96 But is difficult to resist. Yes. That kind of love. 00:18:13.85\00:18:15.92 Love, a love that brings service and submission 00:18:15.95\00:18:19.23 is so hard to resist and that's why Christ used that 00:18:19.26\00:18:21.82 approach. Right. With his character? Yes. 00:18:21.85\00:18:24.88 And it's so beautiful. I tear up over it. 00:18:24.91\00:18:27.75 Both husband and wife should be willing to yield 00:18:30.76\00:18:32.65 his or her way of opinion. There is no possibility of 00:18:32.68\00:18:35.07 happiness while they both persist doing as they please. 00:18:35.10\00:18:38.00 Unless men and women have learned of Christ, 00:18:39.01\00:18:40.93 His meekness and lowliness, they will reveal impulsive, 00:18:40.96\00:18:44.43 unreasonable spirit so often revealed by children. 00:18:44.46\00:18:47.43 And what is Paul say about being children, 00:18:48.43\00:18:49.98 when I was a child, I speak as a child, I act as a child. 00:18:50.76\00:18:53.28 But after that. Yes. I put away childish things. 00:18:53.31\00:18:56.39 Put away childish things, yes. The strong, undisciplined 00:18:56.42\00:18:59.47 will seek to rule such ones need to study the words 00:18:59.50\00:19:02.51 of Paul concerning the child. And I think that Christ 00:19:02.54\00:19:10.38 came to be our example in everything and just 00:19:10.41\00:19:13.85 a few examples of how he lived out both the male role 00:19:13.88\00:19:18.25 of submission and the female role of submission. 00:19:18.28\00:19:20.66 I have here and I would like to share. 00:19:20.69\00:19:23.85 Though he was subject to the same laws, 00:19:25.60\00:19:27.38 both of nature and of the 10 commandments just as we are, 00:19:27.41\00:19:30.54 he perfectly demonstrated and represented the 00:19:30.57\00:19:33.19 character of God. And marriage union also represents God. 00:19:33.22\00:19:36.75 The Christ lived out how both husband and wife 00:19:37.74\00:19:39.95 are to submit. Husbands are to love their wives as Christ 00:19:39.98\00:19:43.46 love the Church and gave himself for it. 00:19:43.49\00:19:45.86 The husband is head of the women as Christ is head 00:19:47.39\00:19:49.65 of the Church and there are no words means then 00:19:49.68\00:19:53.24 I don't think there is any room left there for confusion. 00:19:53.27\00:19:55.79 It just says plainly, the man is the head of women 00:19:56.97\00:20:00.87 as Christ is the head of the Church. 00:20:01.67\00:20:03.17 And what is the Church the people. The people? 00:20:04.33\00:20:07.08 The people are the Church, while on earth Christ led, 00:20:07.11\00:20:10.35 fed, healed, protected, taught, pray for and 00:20:10.38\00:20:15.15 nurtured people. And there are certainly areas, 00:20:15.18\00:20:18.45 where men and women are alike. Women have a gift 00:20:18.48\00:20:24.36 for nurturing it seems to come natural to them, 00:20:24.39\00:20:27.27 but men also can be nurturers. Yes. 00:20:28.00\00:20:30.27 And Christ revealed that. Women cry and we are notorious 00:20:30.96\00:20:37.78 for our tears, right, but men can cry too and we see 00:20:37.81\00:20:40.81 in Psalms, God weep. Yes. God weeps, 00:20:40.84\00:20:43.28 Jesus wept in Psalms, David speaks of crying. 00:20:43.31\00:20:47.47 The tender side. Yes. So, certainly there are areas 00:20:48.28\00:20:51.05 where both of us can excel. Okay. 00:20:51.08\00:20:55.64 This is how husbands are called to behave toward their 00:20:59.49\00:21:01.41 wives they are to lead, feed, teach and nurture 00:21:01.44\00:21:04.52 their wives. And it's called the responsibility in one that 00:21:05.41\00:21:07.91 we find many men running away from because 00:21:07.94\00:21:10.54 it is scary and these women need to buildup their 00:21:10.57\00:21:14.15 confidence by letting them know linking your life 00:21:14.18\00:21:17.69 to that of Christ is going to make you something 00:21:17.72\00:21:21.81 that you never thought you could be. Right. 00:21:21.84\00:21:24.20 And It will make things that seem hard easy. 00:21:24.23\00:21:26.77 I have this that I could read out of child guidance, 00:21:29.89\00:21:32.67 its model homes to make a model Church and 00:21:33.14\00:21:35.75 every family is a Church over which the parents 00:21:35.78\00:21:39.11 preside. The first consideration of the parents 00:21:39.14\00:21:42.67 should be to work for the salvation of their children. 00:21:42.70\00:21:44.69 You know it takes submission to do that. Yes. 00:21:45.67\00:21:47.43 And when the father and the mother as priest and teacher 00:21:48.15\00:21:51.43 the family take their position fully on the side of Christ, 00:21:51.46\00:21:55.35 which is submission. Yes. A good influence will be 00:21:55.38\00:21:58.91 exerted in the home and this sanctified influence, 00:21:58.94\00:22:02.29 submissive influence will be felt in the Church 00:22:03.44\00:22:07.10 and will be recognized by every believer because 00:22:07.72\00:22:10.17 of the great lack of priority and sanctification 00:22:10.20\00:22:13.53 in the home the work of God is greatly hindered, 00:22:13.56\00:22:17.38 no man can bring into the church and influence 00:22:17.62\00:22:20.01 that he does not exert in his home life 00:22:20.04\00:22:23.12 and in his vicious relations. Amen. 00:22:24.10\00:22:26.00 You know we need to realize that the home is so important 00:22:26.03\00:22:29.78 for this area. This should starch should be trained 00:22:29.81\00:22:33.01 to the children and modeled by the mother 00:22:33.04\00:22:35.59 and the father. Yes. And you know, 00:22:35.62\00:22:37.92 I think if we are unwilling to stay in our marriage 00:22:37.95\00:22:41.17 vow obey, if we do not trust the man that we are 00:22:41.20\00:22:44.99 marrying enough to be able to say I will obey him 00:22:45.02\00:22:48.02 then how later in like can we expect our 00:22:48.05\00:22:51.59 children to obey their father. 00:22:51.62\00:22:55.13 Their father, yes I think that's a wonderful point, 00:22:55.82\00:22:57.58 because the children pick that up. Yes a lot. 00:22:58.92\00:23:01.23 Yes, they do. And we had a daughter born to us 00:23:02.02\00:23:06.80 in our second year of marriage and she picked 00:23:06.83\00:23:10.88 up right away that momma did not trust and 00:23:10.91\00:23:14.86 obey daddy. Right. And we saw her starting 00:23:14.89\00:23:17.59 to model my behavior toward him. 00:23:17.62\00:23:20.24 Did she ever tell Daddy what to do? 00:23:20.27\00:23:22.03 Oh yes. Just tell him off. 00:23:22.06\00:23:23.62 Yes, she spoke back to him just like she saw her 00:23:23.65\00:23:26.19 momma speaking back to him and that was a wakeup 00:23:26.22\00:23:30.29 call for me, when I saw her standing up to him 00:23:30.32\00:23:34.69 and exerting her will over him. I thought where did 00:23:34.72\00:23:38.80 she get that from and the Lord had to show 00:23:38.83\00:23:40.94 me Paula she is modeling you. Oh! What a heart 00:23:40.97\00:23:45.03 breaking experience, but I'm glad that he revealed 00:23:45.06\00:23:47.07 it to me. Now we have three children and we 00:23:47.10\00:23:51.88 are trying very, very hard to model the roles 00:23:51.91\00:23:54.29 that we were given, so that they can see 00:23:54.32\00:23:56.30 that it's okay to obey their father because in the minds 00:23:56.33\00:23:59.38 of children their father represents God. Right. 00:23:59.41\00:24:02.82 And not only the father, but the mother is standing 00:24:03.54\00:24:06.52 instead of God, as parents we are standing instead 00:24:06.55\00:24:09.70 of God, yes, until certainly until the time that they 00:24:09.73\00:24:13.22 can directly choose Christ they understand 00:24:14.36\00:24:16.21 what they need to choose and choosing their salvation. 00:24:16.68\00:24:18.98 Do you have something more now as we wrap up 00:24:20.53\00:24:22.66 our program to share with us. 00:24:22.69\00:24:24.11 Sure I would like to close with first a quote from 00:24:24.93\00:24:27.84 another quote, Remembrance Home in then with a 00:24:27.87\00:24:30.87 scripture text. The home in which the members 00:24:30.90\00:24:33.67 are polite, courteous Christians exerts a 00:24:33.70\00:24:35.54 far-reaching influence for good. Other families will mark 00:24:35.57\00:24:38.44 the results attained by such a home and will follow 00:24:38.47\00:24:41.34 the example set, in their turn guarding the home against 00:24:41.37\00:24:44.45 Satanic influences. The angels of God will often visit 00:24:44.48\00:24:47.98 the home in which the will of God bears sway. 00:24:48.01\00:24:51.61 And Gods will can only bear sway in our home as 00:24:52.40\00:24:55.00 our wills are submitted to His. Submitted to him. 00:24:55.03\00:24:58.07 First Peter Chapter 4 Verses 7 through 11 has a nice 00:25:01.52\00:25:05.72 statement in it. And it is not only applicable to our 00:25:05.75\00:25:09.86 home life, but to the life of our church. 00:25:09.89\00:25:12.20 But the end of all things is at hand; therefore be 00:25:12.23\00:25:16.69 serious and watchful in your prayers. 00:25:16.72\00:25:18.51 And above all things have fervent love for one another, 00:25:18.54\00:25:21.28 for "love will cover a multitude of sins." 00:25:22.13\00:25:24.45 Be hospitable to one another without grumbling. 00:25:24.48\00:25:27.13 As each one has received a gift, administer 00:25:28.21\00:25:30.16 it to one another, as good stewards of the manifold 00:25:30.19\00:25:32.99 grace of God. If anyone speaks, let him speak as the 00:25:33.02\00:25:36.23 oracles of God; if anyone ministers let him do it as 00:25:36.26\00:25:39.80 with the ability which God supplies, 00:25:39.83\00:25:41.38 but that in all things God may be glorified 00:25:41.41\00:25:43.93 through Jesus Christ, to whom belongs the glory 00:25:43.96\00:25:46.63 and dominion forever and ever. Amen. 00:25:46.66\00:25:48.55 Amen, Amen! Well that's a good place to end, 00:25:48.58\00:25:53.03 Amen. And we've covered a lot and it might not 00:25:53.06\00:25:57.87 be a very pleasant subject to a lot of people that would 00:25:57.90\00:26:00.98 be listening and surrender and submission 00:26:01.01\00:26:04.34 it's the work that has to be done in the heart, isn't it. 00:26:05.26\00:26:07.96 Yes it is. And to be able to teach our children 00:26:08.52\00:26:11.01 this is a privilege to work to develop their character 00:26:11.04\00:26:15.53 it's a heavy subject. Yes it is. 00:26:15.56\00:26:17.19 And to offer up our children to the Lord to give them 00:26:17.22\00:26:22.87 back to him they are his heritage and we need 00:26:23.11\00:26:25.37 to realize, who they belong to. Yes. 00:26:25.40\00:26:27.37 Don't you think? Oh! Definitely. You 00:26:28.05\00:26:29.34 know Paula for our viewers we ought to have a prayer. 00:26:30.08\00:26:33.35 I would like that. And what do you think? Yes. 00:26:34.10\00:26:35.07 And I wanna ask you to have that prayer. Okay. 00:26:35.08\00:26:37.65 And maybe they will bow their heads with us and ask 00:26:38.00\00:26:44.06 that the Holy Spirit come into their hearts, 00:26:44.09\00:26:45.81 so that they might surrender in the fullest. 00:26:45.84\00:26:47.74 Especially mothers and fathers or young women 00:26:48.40\00:26:49.93 and young man who are going to get married 00:26:49.96\00:26:52.57 and they have this need of learning surrender 00:26:52.60\00:26:56.71 in their lives. To surrender much more than ever before, 00:26:57.30\00:26:59.42 so could we do that Paula? Yes. Everyone. 00:27:00.16\00:27:01.83 Father in heaven we just ask that you will come 00:27:04.34\00:27:07.16 into our hearts as women and as Church members, 00:27:07.19\00:27:09.93 help us to learn your lessons of humility, 00:27:10.77\00:27:12.73 so that we can reach out and be more giving 00:27:13.84\00:27:15.88 and loving to others. Yes. 00:27:15.91\00:27:17.63 We thank you so much for the example of Jesus 00:27:18.72\00:27:20.77 that you sent for us to follow and we ask that you will 00:27:20.80\00:27:24.46 help us to follow him in all things each and everyday, 00:27:24.49\00:27:27.52 surrendering that will to your so that you will maybe 00:27:28.58\00:27:31.60 done. Please come into our families, 00:27:31.63\00:27:35.00 help us as mothers to model our joys womanhood 00:27:36.16\00:27:39.64 for our daughters and help us to model obedience, 00:27:39.67\00:27:43.49 we ask all of these things in the loving name of Jesus 00:27:43.52\00:27:47.67 Christ Amen. Amen. 00:27:47.70\00:27:49.19 And I want to thank you for being with us. 00:27:50.28\00:27:52.07 I want to thank you for being wiht us. 00:27:52.10\00:27:53.73 next time we are going to have more on women 00:27:53.76\00:27:55.88 and surrender, join us again on Thinking About Home. 00:27:55.91\00:27:58.74