The Bible tells us, "In
the beginning was the Word,
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and the Word was with
God, and the Word was God."
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It says, "To
receive with Meekness
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the implanted Word,
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which is able to Save your Souls
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and to be Diligent
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to present
yourself approved to God...
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Rightly dividing
the Word of Truth."
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Join us now for the
3ABN's Sabbath School Panel.
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Our study today is,
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The Holy Spirit
and Spirituality.
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Happy Sabbath, and welcome
to 3ABN Sabbath School Panel.
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As most of you know already,
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you've been
enjoying these lessons.
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We pray the Holy Spirit's
been working on your heart
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and on your life.
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And we're going to be
studying lesson number four,
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so if you have your book,
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we want you to get
it out, get your Bible,
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get pencil and paper
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because this is going to be
a fantastic study, another one.
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And in a moment, we'll give you,
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how you can get these lessons
in case you do not have them.
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But you know, I
thought that it might be good,
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you know, even as a panel,
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I'm going to introduce the
panel in just a moment too,
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maybe to go over and
I think we can do this
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because starting, now
this is just a fourth lesson.
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So it would be nice
just to go over and just,
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in case some people missed it,
just a few of the high points,
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not all of them at all,
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just few high points of
things that's been covered
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on the previous lessons.
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Now, if you get deeper into it,
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it'd be difficult to
cover every little thing.
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So I jotted down a few
things I thought would be
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very, very interesting.
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And again we're
so glad you're here.
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You know, what do we have?
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You can't have a
lesson study without people.
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So we'll praise God
that you've tuning in.
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We want you to
make this a habit.
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Things that we have
learned, I jotted down,
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the Holy Spirit active
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with the Father and
the son in creation.
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This is the
topic many people get
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little confusion on some time.
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Active in the incarnation,
active in redemption,
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Holy Spirit is much a person
as the Father and the son.
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The Holy Spirit
inspired Bible writers.
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How wonderful to
know all these things,
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They are so good and positive!
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The Holy Spirit
filled Christ's life
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with power and gave him victory,
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you know, over the temptations.
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The Holy Spirit,
we've been learning draws us
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and convicts us,
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and if we
respond to that drawing
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and conviction, we
have a heart change
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and a character change,
must be a response to that.
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And then also the Holy Spirit
gives gifts to the church.
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Aren't you glad to the
churches that Spirit gives them
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as He will
severally, praise God for that.
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The Holy Spirit, we're learning
has, leads us into all truth.
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And also the Holy
Spirit bears witness
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of Jesus Christ.
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So the function
of the Holy Spirit,
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Christ representative
and bears witness of Christ,
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not Himself, so
these are good points
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and just, you
know, simple things
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I think that we need
to maybe put in your mind
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as we begin to
study today. And I also,
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I want us to always remember,
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we're going over
some of the same passages,
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but even though I might read one
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and Sister Mollie may
read one and Sister Jill
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or, you know,
Brother Bryan, it's okay,
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read it again
because the Holy Spirit
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will give you
something different.
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Do not worry about. The
scriptures never get old.
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So praise God for that.
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Again, lesson number four,
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and I'm gonna tell
you, in case you do not have
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these lessons and
you want to get them,
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I'm going to give you
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the way in which you can
get these lessons right now.
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You can receive
it, download these
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through absg.adventist.org.
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Now, if you do
that, I'll run it again,
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absg.adventist.org.
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I thought very interesting,
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I looked at that said
help me to remember that
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and ABS is, you know,
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Automatic Braking
System that got brakes.
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If that's okay with you,
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I can remember
the way I want to,
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it's all right, it
helped me, isn't that?
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Because you have
ABS system on your car
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and God is my, praise
God, my braking system...
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Amen. God is there for us.
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So anyway be sure
you get that lesson
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study along with this.
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I'm going to introduce the
ones who are with us today.
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And right after that,
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we're going to have
prayer, don't you go.
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We can't study,
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can't understand the
Holy Spirit without prayer.
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So on my left, you know,
I'm very grateful and thankful,
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Jill Morikone.
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God bless, you know,
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it's always good to
sit and study the Word,
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and we've had opportunities
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to do it on
several different occasions
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and, you know, family
worship and whatever today's
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and just, you
know, on this panel,
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and it's always a delight,
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and you've been such
a help and encouragement
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to my wife and I,
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and we love you guys
for that and thank you.
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I'm so glad to have you today.
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Thank you so much, Pastor Kenny.
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It's a privilege to be here
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and Greg and I
feel the same about
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you and your precious wife.
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It's a joy to open up God's Word
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and to study
about the Holy Spirit
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and to my left
is Mollie Steenson.
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She is my boss.
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She is a woman of
God, a woman of the Word,
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a woman of grace and dignity,
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and it's just a joy
to have you here, Mollie.
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Amen. Thank you very much.
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I am humbled to
be a part of this
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group of people
studying God's Word.
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Thank you all for
letting me work with you all.
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And to my left is just,
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I usually
introduce people like this,
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people that have
become my friend to me
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that's first and foremost,
first you're my friend...
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Amen. And he's a pastor.
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He is also 3ABN's
chief financial officer,
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Brian Hamilton.
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Brian, thank you so
much for joining us.
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It's a blessing to be here.
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This is my first time
on this particular panel,
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and I'm looking forward to it,
the subject of the Holy Spirit.
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I can't think
of a better subject
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to be studying,
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a more needful
subject to be studying,
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particular at this
time in earth's history,
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and, Kenny, I'm going to
hand the mic back over to you,
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you're our moderator
today and we're so happy
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to have you a part of our team.
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We love you and
your wife and family,
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and it's nice to have
you part of us here at 3ABN.
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Praise the Lord.
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It's good to be a
part of God's team.
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Amen. Isn't it?
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We like that and
so but, you know,
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I going to have to
throw it right back to you
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because I want you,
Brother Brian, to pray for us.
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How desperately we that
and after we have prayer,
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I like Sister Mollie
the other day, you said,
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"Let's read the
memory text together."
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So we'll do that
right after you have prayer.
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So let's pray, shall we?
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Bow your head's with
us, Father in heaven,
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it's so nice that Jesus told us
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that we can
address you that way.
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Amen. You are our Father.
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Yes.
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There's warmth and closeness
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and, we're so happy that
you're willing to consider us
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your children like Jesus.
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Amen. Amen, thank you.
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Our savior, gave
your life for us,
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became one flesh with us...
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Amen.
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That we might be
one with the Father.
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Amen. Amen.
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Holy Spirit, we address you too
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because you are Christ
representative on Earth.
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You're here to be our
helper, our friend, our guide,
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our comforter and so much more.
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Please help us today...
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Praise Father.
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As we look at
this subject of you.
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And we ask for
your guidance... Amen.
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That you open our
minds... Thank you.
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And even more open our hearts...
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To the wonder of
knowing you better.
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Thank you in
Jesus name, amen. Amen.
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Amen, praise the Lord.
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So those of you at home
be sure you get your bible,
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open it up, our memory
text for lesson number four
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which covers
January 21st to the 27th
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and it's found in
the book of John 14:26.
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Now, I realize
there's, you know,
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you have the,
this is from the NASB,
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many will be
reading from the King James
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and the New King James,
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but we're going to
read it out of the book
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so that kind of we
keep our voices together.
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Are we ready?
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It says, "But the
Helper, the Holy Spirit,
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whom the Father
will send in my name,
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He will teach you all things
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and bring to your remembrance
all that I said to you."
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That's just, you
know, that's powerful.
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When you read that, we
realize as children of God
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all that He has given to
us that's accessible to us.
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You know, there would be
whole lot less complaining,
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whole lot less, I'm not sure of,
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just going forward
doing what He's asked us to do
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through the power
of the Holy Spirit.
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And so, we look at that
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and I thought
about the memory text
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and it just dawned on my
heart, it dawned on my heart.
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He said, "Kenny, I'm
going to teach you all things."
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Amen.
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I can remember being
called to the ministry,
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I gave every excuse
that I possibly could not to
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because I felt inadequate,
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and I still do today
after all these years.
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I never feel content,
I never feel like, "Oh,
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I've got it all together."
I always have apprehensive...
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I'm apprehensive because,
not because the Holy Spirit,
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because I know myself.
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And so, I rely and lean upon God
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as each one does.
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And when he
said, "I'll teach you,"
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and so I
remember when he called,
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it simply, the call was,
"I want you to witness for me,
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I want you to minister
for me." And, of course,
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I said no quite a few
times, but then I finally said,
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"You know what,
Lord, somebody be careful
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with this one.
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I'm not been to the
school of the prophets."
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And the Holy Spirit
said to me as plain as date,
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"Kenny, I don't want you to go,"
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not so wrong for
other people to do it,
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this is...
Everybody's different.
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Everybody needs whatever
and God knows where you're at,
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and He said, "Kenny,
I don't want you to."
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And I said,
"Well, Lord, why not?"
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He said,
"Because I can teach you
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more in five seconds
than all the learned men
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of the world can in a lifetime.
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Stay close to
me, I'll teach you."
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That brought such
comfort to my heart to realize
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which we should, it's not I.
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Yes. But Christ.
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Amen. And this leads..
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Sunday's lesson talks about
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Jesus' description
of the Holy Spirit,
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and we will cover as many things
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that we can in the
time that we have together.
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It gives us
understanding, I'm thankful,
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as we read this the
personality of the Holy Spirit.
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Again, it covers
some of the same things
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maybe over and over,
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but if you're
like me, I need it.
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And little
different aspect of it
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and helps me to learn.
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People say, "Why you
jot all these things down?"
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Because it helps
me as I jot them down,
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I learn them, puts it in my mind
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and in my heart, that's
the way I need to do it.
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Others don't need do
it that way, it's okay.
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We are not all the same.
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We know it when Jesus
spoke of the Holy Spirit,
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which He did many times,
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Jesus's
description of the Holy Spirit
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and I, this came to my
mind, it was 1 John 2:6,
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it says that,
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"He that abides in him
ought to walk as what..."
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As he what? He walks.
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If we abide in Christ,
then we must walk as He walks
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so Jesus then is
talking about the Holy Spirit
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and it describes the Holy Spirit
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as a personality, as a
deity, as a being, as a divine,
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then, if Jesus said
it, it's okay with me.
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I don't care what all
the other men might say or...
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It's what the Bible
says that's so important.
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Jesus said this
is the Holy Spirit,
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then I just let
everything else go and say
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that's what he
said then I believe in.
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He speaks of, example,
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I think it was
mentioned maybe in the prayer,
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Brother Brain, you mentioned,
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says the Holy
Spirit, it guides...
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Amen.
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It speaks, hears, convicts,
it glorifies, it teaches,
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dwells, testifies all
of these beautiful things.
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Again, read John 14,
15, 16, the whole chapters,
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you'll get it, and
you'll see what Jesus said
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when Holy Spirit
begins to come changes
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begin develop in our
hearts and our lives.
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Jesus said, "I'm not
going to leave you alone,"
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some of the
things that we covered.
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"I'm not going
to leave you alone,
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I'm going to send you,"
you remember, "a comforter,"
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and I'll tell how
interesting that is,
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comforter, we have
discussed and been over is...
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It's distinct, when
He said the comforter,
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it's distinct from the...
But it has the same characters,
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He is taking from Jesus,
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but it has a
distinctive characteristic,
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a character, one like Himself,
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one who would talk
and would take His place,
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one that would act in His stead,
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so thus, you know, take Jesus,
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the Holy Spirit
representative of Jesus Christ.
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I love this passage
in Desire of Ages 669.
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You'll find out
as we do the study,
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I'm a believer in
the spirit of prophecy.
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I'm not bashful,
I'm not ashamed of it
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because I have
found over all the years
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and it doesn't mean
I've studied anything,
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but what I have studied
and I've taken the Bible,
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and I've learned what truth
is from the Word of God first
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and know what
the Word of God says
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and then, I can go
if it's other books,
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and I don't go to other
books to find out what truth is.
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There's only two
avenues, the Bible
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and Spirit of Prophecy for me.
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And so I look and
Spirit of Prophecy
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has always harmonized...
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Amen.
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With the Bible, every time,
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it's just makes it
simple and clear for me.
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So if I read from it,
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it's because my
mind is simple and I need
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to make it real clear
and it really helps me.
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Desire of ages
669 says this, notice,
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"The Holy Spirit is
Christ's representative,
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but divested of the
personality of humanity,
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independent thereof..."
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Okay?
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So the Holy Spirit is not
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Jesus came down
here what did he have?
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Humanity, He was in human form,
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He couldn't be
every place at once...
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That's right. I
finally got it in my head.
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I finally got it in my
head, you now, Jesus said,
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"I'm going to
send you a comforter.
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I'm going to send
someone to take my place
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and it's going
to be a blessing,"
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as it were that,
send the Holy Spirit
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because Christ
couldn't be every place at once.
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That's right.
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So notice how
this article goes on.
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It's said,
"Cumbered with humanity,
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Christ could not be in
every place personally.
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Therefore, it
was to their interest
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that He should go to the Father,
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and send the Spirit..."
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The Holy Spirit, notice,
"to be his successor on earth."
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Not His spirit or
the Father spirit,
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separate entity here
we're talking about the spirit,
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the divine
spirit, His successor,
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His representative.
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No one, I like this,
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"No one could
then have any advantage
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because of his location
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or of his personal
contact with Christ."
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So some of you could say,
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"Well, I wasn't there
when He walked the earth
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or those who were
there, they had an edge,
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they had an edge on it
'cause I didn't get to see him,
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I didn't..."
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Notice what Christ
says, "Can't use that excuse,
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I go back to the Father,
I sent my representative,
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I send the one that's
going to be My successor
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here on earth,
that can be every place,
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everywhere at the same time,
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no one's going to be neglected,"
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notice that, "By the Spirit,
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the Savior would
be accessible to all,
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in this sense, He
would be nearer to them
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than if He had
not ascended on high,"
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that just wrapped it up for me.
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Because He ascended
on high. He says what.
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"Oh, He's nearer to us
then He could have been."
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What if he
stayed here, He's near.
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So praise God for that,
I thought how interesting
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but again, the disciples
said, oh, time's running out.
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Disciples said this, they...
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most generally
disciples never did,
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maybe the first
time get what Jesus said,
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I think I might be that way too.
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He said it over and over
to me and some time I said,
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"What did He say
now, what did that mean?"
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Desire of Age 670 said this.
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"Jesus tried to reach them,"
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remember when they
couldn't understand it,
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Jesus tried to reach them.
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When I couldn't understand
it, Jesus tries to reach me
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through the power
of the Holy Spirit,
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all the work on this
earth to save sinners,
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give victory over sin is by
the power of the Holy Spirit,
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how indebted we
are to the Holy Spirit!
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Amen.
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You know, that's
just an awesome thought.
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Jesus tries to reach
to me and He says this,
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"The disciple still failed
to understand Christ words
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in their spiritual sense."
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He again explained,
notice, His meaning,
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and, of course,
you can read that,
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He said, by the Spirit, he said,
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He would
manifest Himself to them.
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So by the Holy Spirit,
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He would
manifest Himself to them.
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If we had time,
we'd reach Ephesians,
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we do not,
3:18-19, really powerful
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because it talks about
the fullness of the spirit.
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I thought how beautiful that is,
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the fullness of the spirit,
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that means, what's
filled up, that means a power,
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that means the agency,
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that means the riches to
be full of the Holy Spirit
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is what maybe we
might lack a little bit
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maybe in the church, be
filled of the Spirit means,
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there's going to be conversion,
you know, where Jesus is,
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that things happen.
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Oh, anyway, Jesus
describes the Holy Spirit
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and when He describes it,
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you know that
it's right. Praise God.
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You know, we're just going
to go right on, right quickly
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because I think I've talked
a little too much on that.
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Unless you have a comment,
anybody have a comment on that?
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If not... You do, you covered...
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Oh, we just talked,
yeah, we're going to...
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This is little
different because we have four
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rather than five on the panel.
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So this gives a
golden opportunity,
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probably the first time
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that we're going
to look at the subject
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and we're all
going to be involved.
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So I'm not going to ask
you to throw your two cents,
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I'm going to ask you
throw you nickel's worth...
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Oh, wow. Is that all right?
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Maybe a dime's worth in on this
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because it's very important
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because we are
going to be studying
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personal aspects,
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that's Monday's
lesson, January 23rd,
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of the Holy Spirit,
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personal aspects are something
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that we've been
talking about over and over
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and it makes sense...
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and new light is
always thrown upon it
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as we study this is.
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I'll just read a line here
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and then we are
going to throw a dime
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and we would do
some discussion here.
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Your lesson that says,
"Can an impersonal force
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intercede in our behalf?"
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You know, I'd love to
have time sometime to go back
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and look at that,
many people send me
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a lot of stuff sometime
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and they'll say
the pioneer said.
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That's a
beautiful, beautiful statement
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and they should be right.
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But you don't get
truth by the pioneers.
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You get truth by the Bible
and the Spirit of Prophecy.
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Amen, that's right.
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Seriously, and that's not trying
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to put anything or anybody down,
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but if you're looking for truth,
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why, why do I say that?
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Because we understand
God was bringing people
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in from all
different backgrounds.
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And many of them
thought Jesus was begotten
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or there was a time and
place that He came into being,
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He was born as it were.
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Many believe that
there was no Holy Spirit.
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When they first come
in to Adventist move,
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they call it is as
essence of the spirit.
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Many of our leaders
at that point in time
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did not believe
the true position
00:18:07.65\00:18:09.62
until Ellen White
began to come out on it,
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and once she
made some statements,
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they just backed
down and began to follow.
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Is that what we should do?
When light comes and evidence,
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what should we do
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when we're talking
about personal aspects
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of the Holy Spirit?
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When the Holy
Spirit speaks to us,
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what should we do?
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I think we go and go
back to the Word of God.
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The Holy Spirit,
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we talked about this
in a previous lesson,
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never leads us
contrary to the Word of God.
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Because the Holy Spirit
inspired the Word of God.
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Now, you
mentioned, Pastor Kenny,
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"Can an impersonal
force intercede on our behalf?
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And it reminds me of Romans 8.
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Okay.
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Romans 8:26,
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"Likewise the spirit
helps in our weaknesses,
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we don't know what we
should pray for as we ought
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but the Spirit Himself
makes intercession for us
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with groaning
which cannot be uttered."
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Is very clear
the Word of God says
00:18:53.86\00:18:56.77
the Spirit intercedes for us.
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If He were an impersonal
force, He could not intercede.
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This shows us
that personal aspect,
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one of the personal
aspects of the Holy Spirit.
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It's also points
out, Jill, to me,
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why we need the
Holy Spirit so much?
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I'm thinking of our children
when they were growing up,
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their hearts would
yearn for something,
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they would beg
and they would plead
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and, you know, I mean they just
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really pull out
your heartstrings,
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but we as parents, with
more years of experience,
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more understanding,
more knowledge knew
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what they were
begging for and felt like
00:19:32.37\00:19:34.40
this was the only
thing in the world
00:19:34.44\00:19:37.01
that would make them happy,
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wouldn't do for them
what they thought it would do.
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Yeah. That's right.
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And so as parents, you
had to say no sometimes.
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Yes.
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Well, that's how
the Holy Spirit is.
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We plead for
something, beg for something,
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cry for something.
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Yes, yes.
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When that something may
not be what we really need...
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Amen, that's true.
00:19:54.72\00:19:56.06
But the Holy Spirit
knows what we do need.
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Amen. Yes.
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Is that why, Sister Mollie,
you think about, is that why,
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you know, I read
one time, it said,
00:20:01.46\00:20:02.80
"We don't even know
what we ought to pray for?"
00:20:02.83\00:20:04.17
Yeah.
00:20:04.20\00:20:05.53
And when I was little,
seriously, when I was little,
00:20:05.57\00:20:06.90
I said, "Then
why should I pray?"
00:20:06.94\00:20:08.80
Sounds kind of
rebellious anyway,
00:20:08.84\00:20:10.17
you know, I mean I read this.
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Not trying to be that way
but the question came up...
00:20:11.57\00:20:12.94
Yeah.
00:20:12.97\00:20:14.31
In my limited
knowledge which still is...
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Yeah.
00:20:16.18\00:20:17.51
Spiritualness of the Word,
00:20:17.55\00:20:19.21
we don't even know what we need,
00:20:19.25\00:20:20.58
how to pray for
us, I said, "Then why,
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why should I
pray if I don't know
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what I should do
then, pray for it?
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Just let it go."
If you found that...
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Well, have you ever,
let me just ask this.
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You're going to get down,
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and you're going
to pray for something
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that you feel
like you really need
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and you submit yourself to God,
00:20:35.76\00:20:38.90
you ask the Holy
Spirit to direct you,
00:20:38.93\00:20:40.60
and you're just
praying up storm,
00:20:40.64\00:20:41.97
do you all pray up storms?
00:20:42.00\00:20:43.34
Do you know what I mean by that?
00:20:43.37\00:20:44.77
Just beseech God... Amen, amen.
00:20:44.81\00:20:46.88
And pray and
really get performing,
00:20:46.91\00:20:49.48
you find yourself
praying for something
00:20:49.51\00:20:52.08
you didn't even know,
you were going to pray for.
00:20:52.11\00:20:54.48
And what happens,
00:20:54.52\00:20:55.85
this is what I think happens is,
00:20:55.88\00:20:57.69
you know, the scripture
that says God gives you
00:20:57.72\00:21:00.36
the desires of your heart.
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Yes. That's right.
00:21:01.76\00:21:03.09
Does that mean, "I've
got a desire in my heart
00:21:03.12\00:21:05.16
and God's going
to give it to me"?
00:21:05.19\00:21:06.66
Or does that mean,
00:21:06.70\00:21:08.96
God drops the
desires in my heart,
00:21:09.00\00:21:11.67
God gifts me those
desires that are in my heart.
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And as I pray, you know,
my heart starts changing...
00:21:15.47\00:21:18.87
Yes.
00:21:18.91\00:21:20.24
And maybe I
realize, I don't need
00:21:20.28\00:21:22.14
what I was think
I was heading for,
00:21:22.18\00:21:25.61
but what the Lord
dropped in my heart,
00:21:25.65\00:21:27.45
that desire if He
replaces in the heart,
00:21:27.48\00:21:29.82
that's the thing
that God has for me,
00:21:29.85\00:21:32.29
and He's just given me
the desires of my heart.
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Amen. Amen, beautiful.
00:21:35.36\00:21:36.69
So sometime the circumstances
are not really changed,
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the change comes inside.
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That's it. And it comes by what?
00:21:41.40\00:21:44.17
Talking about it, yeah,
00:21:44.20\00:21:45.53
aspect of the Holy
Spirit here in my heart...
00:21:45.57\00:21:48.04
Changed my desire, I
thought I got my way.
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Yeah.
00:21:50.84\00:21:52.77
You think, well, oh... Yeah.
00:21:52.81\00:21:54.14
You know, well, this change,
that of the, no, He changed...
00:21:54.18\00:21:56.38
You know, 'cause it
tells that the things,
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that we, you know, we once love,
00:21:58.58\00:21:59.98
we now hate, love your enemies.
00:22:00.02\00:22:01.35
Yeah.
00:22:01.38\00:22:02.72
There's no way to love them
00:22:02.75\00:22:04.09
without the power
of the Holy Spirit,
00:22:04.12\00:22:05.45
you just can't...
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If you ever found out
that be true, Brother Brian?
00:22:06.86\00:22:08.19
It's very difficult
to love the unlovely,
00:22:08.22\00:22:09.92
you can't do it on
your own or no, can you?
00:22:09.96\00:22:11.49
No, no, it's very difficult.
00:22:11.53\00:22:14.13
You have to have a heart change,
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and we can't change the heart.
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That's right.
00:22:16.90\00:22:18.23
And that's the
issue, but the Holy Spirit
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can help us and
that's what we need.
00:22:20.34\00:22:24.01
Mollie, did you have...
00:22:24.04\00:22:25.37
I see you're turning your pages.
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Well, I was just
thinking of the Holy Spirit,
00:22:26.78\00:22:29.54
and I think the
subject matter today
00:22:29.58\00:22:32.51
was aspects of the Holy Spirit.
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Yes.
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And what and...
Something we had discussed
00:22:35.62\00:22:38.42
I think in the green
room a little earlier
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was the Holy Spirit
is a free moral age,
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He has free will, He
has his own volition.
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Amen.
00:22:46.09\00:22:47.43
And I wanted to cover
00:22:47.46\00:22:48.80
some scriptures
on that if it's okay.
00:22:48.83\00:22:50.27
1 Corinthians 12,
00:22:50.30\00:22:52.93
and we're going to read
several scriptures there,
00:22:52.97\00:22:54.80
so I'll hurry, it's 4-11
00:22:54.84\00:22:56.97
and it's about the
gifts of the spirit.
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Amen. Yeah.
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So let me read, "There
are diversities of gifts
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with the same..."
00:23:02.84\00:23:04.18
And all you know
want that next word is.
00:23:04.21\00:23:05.81
Spirit, "There are
differences of ministries
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but the same Lord
00:23:08.65\00:23:09.98
and there are
diversities of activities
00:23:10.02\00:23:11.35
but it is the same God."
00:23:11.39\00:23:12.72
Yeah.
00:23:12.75\00:23:14.09
So what we have there
is the Spirit Lord in God,
00:23:14.12\00:23:16.76
the power of the God.
00:23:16.79\00:23:18.13
There it is, okay.
00:23:18.16\00:23:19.49
"Who works all in all
00:23:19.53\00:23:21.40
but the manifestation
of the Spirit is given
00:23:21.43\00:23:23.60
to each one for
the profit of all."
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And then He lists all
nine spiritual gifts and...
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But let's read the verse 11,
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"But one and the
same spirit works, what?"
00:23:35.54\00:23:38.71
"All things distributing to
each one individually as..."
00:23:38.75\00:23:44.65
What? As He would.
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Yes, He would.
00:23:46.05\00:23:47.39
So the gifts that
God has graced us with,
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these are the grace gifts,
00:23:50.56\00:23:52.69
nine grace gifts
that He's graced us with,
00:23:52.73\00:23:55.23
we didn't get to
say, "You know what?
00:23:55.26\00:23:57.03
I think I want
the gift of prophecy
00:23:57.07\00:23:59.50
or I think I want
the gift of healing."
00:23:59.53\00:24:01.84
Oh, if we could
do that, you know,
00:24:01.87\00:24:03.71
what we want is all nine gifts,
00:24:03.74\00:24:05.77
but we don't get
to pick and choose.
00:24:05.81\00:24:07.51
Who picks and choose of
His own world, His volition,
00:24:07.54\00:24:10.25
the Holy Spirit
looks at each of us
00:24:10.28\00:24:12.45
and then He graces
us with the gift that...
00:24:12.48\00:24:14.95
Is it possible to
exercise your own will
00:24:14.98\00:24:19.55
as it were to try to
put you in a position
00:24:19.59\00:24:21.56
where you're not
supposed to be there,
00:24:21.59\00:24:23.76
God never called you?
00:24:23.79\00:24:25.13
Oh, yeah. Is it?
00:24:25.16\00:24:26.70
And not concern with...
You know, we are self willed.
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Yeah. Thank you.
00:24:29.06\00:24:30.67
If you're not
graced for the place,
00:24:30.70\00:24:32.30
you'll fall flat on your face.
00:24:32.33\00:24:33.67
Face, yeah.
00:24:33.70\00:24:35.04
Good, that's a
Good way to put that.
00:24:35.07\00:24:36.40
Yeah. Good.
00:24:36.44\00:24:37.77
And you think in the
Corinthian church here,
00:24:37.81\00:24:39.14
they were having
discussions about the gifts
00:24:39.17\00:24:40.98
and which was more important,
it reminds me of the disciples,
00:24:41.01\00:24:44.55
when they walked when Jesus
and who was the most important.
00:24:44.58\00:24:47.55
And so I think
it's important here
00:24:47.58\00:24:49.72
as we look at these
gifts and that the Holy Spirit
00:24:49.75\00:24:52.02
gives to each one
as He wills and...
00:24:52.05\00:24:54.29
He knows which
one is best for us.
00:24:54.32\00:24:56.12
That's right.
00:24:56.16\00:24:57.49
It's not like I
think I want this gift
00:24:57.53\00:24:59.36
or I should have this gift,
00:24:59.39\00:25:00.73
we were talking
about the gift of singing
00:25:00.76\00:25:02.60
which I do not possess.
00:25:02.63\00:25:05.53
But the Holy Spirit knows...
00:25:05.57\00:25:07.00
As it deals in which
one to give to each one.
00:25:07.04\00:25:08.50
Amen.
00:25:08.54\00:25:09.87
So you talk about the
personality of us all,
00:25:09.90\00:25:12.21
you know, we gain, we mentioned
in even in another lesson
00:25:12.24\00:25:14.24
before that only a
personal being can be lied to
00:25:14.28\00:25:18.75
and a personal
being can be deceived.
00:25:18.78\00:25:20.58
Right.
00:25:20.62\00:25:21.95
Only a personal being can be,
00:25:21.98\00:25:23.62
I think you
mentioned grieved at one time.
00:25:23.65\00:25:25.45
Ephesians 4:30, can be grieved.
00:25:25.49\00:25:27.22
So and then
only a personal being
00:25:27.26\00:25:29.32
can have the ability as it
were to choose as he wills.
00:25:29.36\00:25:33.76
That we've just
been reading here.
00:25:33.80\00:25:35.26
So the lesson comes
out really clear on this
00:25:35.30\00:25:38.27
about the personality, the
aspects of the Holy Spirit.
00:25:38.30\00:25:42.40
So the Holy
Spirit is self-conscious,
00:25:42.44\00:25:45.61
self-knowing, self-willing,
self-determined being.
00:25:45.64\00:25:50.58
That's good, self conscious.
00:25:50.61\00:25:51.95
Yes. Self knowing.
00:25:51.98\00:25:53.31
Self-conscious, self-knowing,
00:25:53.35\00:25:54.68
self-willing will and
so are self-determined
00:25:54.72\00:25:57.65
as it were being
and so we look at it.
00:25:57.69\00:25:59.89
So maybe another part of
the lesson we'll get to go
00:25:59.92\00:26:02.19
because again,
the Spirit speaks,
00:26:02.22\00:26:04.03
people should give
Bible passages for that,
00:26:04.06\00:26:05.89
1 Timothy 4:1, "It
teaches," 1 Corinthians 2:3,
00:26:05.93\00:26:09.36
"Bears witness," Romans 8:16,
00:26:09.40\00:26:11.50
"Makes
intercessions," Romans 8:26,
00:26:11.53\00:26:13.90
"Distributes the
gifts," 1 Corinthians 12,
00:26:13.94\00:26:15.90
you read in 11,
00:26:15.94\00:26:17.27
"Brings conviction and invites
the sinner," Revelation 22:17,
00:26:17.31\00:26:21.48
"Whosoever will may come."
00:26:21.51\00:26:24.25
Amen.
00:26:24.28\00:26:25.61
Okay, I think it's time
right now for Tuesday's...
00:26:25.65\00:26:29.38
Tuesday. Lesson, Sister Jill.
00:26:29.42\00:26:30.75
And we actually
continue the same discussion.
00:26:30.79\00:26:33.05
We're looking
at personal aspects
00:26:33.09\00:26:34.72
of the Holy Spirit part two.
00:26:34.76\00:26:38.49
As we talk about this,
00:26:38.53\00:26:39.86
the personhood
of the Holy Spirit,
00:26:39.89\00:26:42.46
it brings to my mind a
question what makes a person?
00:26:42.50\00:26:47.20
Now, if you look at
that, what makes a person?
00:26:47.24\00:26:49.84
A person has a mind to reason.
Would you say that's accurate?
00:26:49.87\00:26:53.68
We have our pet
cat, she is precious,
00:26:53.71\00:26:57.85
her name is Pebbles,
and she does not reason.
00:26:57.88\00:27:01.45
She acts out of
instinct we could say,
00:27:01.48\00:27:04.89
what she has been
trained in instinct,
00:27:04.92\00:27:06.69
there might be a
little bit of something,
00:27:06.72\00:27:08.69
but she does not
reason as humans do.
00:27:08.72\00:27:11.26
So a person reasons, we
see that in Romans 8:27,
00:27:11.29\00:27:14.10
the mind of the Spirit.
00:27:14.13\00:27:16.70
A person, Mollie mentioned this,
00:27:16.73\00:27:19.00
the last lesson,
has the will to choose.
00:27:19.03\00:27:21.90
Well. 1 Corinthians 12:11.
00:27:21.94\00:27:24.04
"The Holy Spirit gives
it to whomever he wills."
00:27:24.07\00:27:26.21
We see God gave to Adam and Eve
the gift in the Garden of Eden,
00:27:26.24\00:27:30.15
the gift of free choice.
00:27:30.18\00:27:31.51
Amen.
00:27:31.55\00:27:32.88
"You can eat of all
the fruit in the garden
00:27:32.91\00:27:35.52
but of the fruit
and the knowledge
00:27:35.55\00:27:37.09
of the good and
evil, don't touch it,
00:27:37.12\00:27:39.95
don't eat of it or
you're going to die."
00:27:39.99\00:27:41.72
Yes. That was the
gift of free will.
00:27:41.76\00:27:44.96
Because otherwise,
00:27:44.99\00:27:46.83
they would have
served God not out of,
00:27:46.86\00:27:50.87
"I'm choosing to
follow you because I love you.
00:27:50.90\00:27:53.03
I'm choosing not to do
this and I want to serve you."
00:27:53.07\00:27:55.74
So the gift of free
will is inherent in us
00:27:55.77\00:27:58.17
and it's inherent
in what makes a person,
00:27:58.21\00:28:00.44
the gift of free will.
00:28:00.48\00:28:02.28
Another aspect of
what makes a person
00:28:02.31\00:28:04.98
is the speech to communicate.
00:28:05.01\00:28:06.35
Yes.
00:28:06.38\00:28:07.72
The ability to communicate,
the spirit in Acts 8:29,
00:28:07.75\00:28:12.05
let's turn there.
00:28:12.09\00:28:13.72
I don't think we've
looked at one up yet today,
00:28:13.76\00:28:15.99
Acts 8:29, the Spirit speaks,
00:28:16.02\00:28:22.83
so this is fill up
00:28:22.86\00:28:24.57
and He's going
the angel of the Lord
00:28:24.60\00:28:26.67
in verse 26 told Him,
00:28:26.70\00:28:29.30
"Arise and go down the
road that leads toward God.
00:28:29.34\00:28:32.44
And so He arises
and He starts going down
00:28:32.47\00:28:35.31
and all of a sudden,
00:28:35.34\00:28:36.78
there is the unit
of great authority
00:28:36.81\00:28:39.01
under the queen. And
He's riding in His chariot
00:28:39.05\00:28:42.88
and He's reading out
of Isaiah the prophecy."
00:28:42.92\00:28:47.69
And then the verse 29,
the spirits said to Philip.
00:28:47.72\00:28:51.06
Okay.
00:28:51.09\00:28:52.43
"Go nearer and
overtake this chariot
00:28:52.46\00:28:56.36
and so Philip obeyed."
00:28:56.40\00:28:59.20
Yeah. Wow.
00:28:59.23\00:29:00.57
We're going to find
that in a future lesson
00:29:00.60\00:29:01.94
about one of the
conditions of the Holy Spirit
00:29:01.97\00:29:04.11
is to walk in obedience.
00:29:04.14\00:29:06.81
But we're looking
here at the personhood,
00:29:06.84\00:29:08.58
the personal
aspects of the Holy Spirit,
00:29:08.61\00:29:10.35
so the Holy Spirit speaks
how many times have you heard
00:29:10.38\00:29:14.48
the Holy Spirit
speak into your heart?
00:29:14.52\00:29:16.32
You know, how many times have...
00:29:16.35\00:29:19.02
Oh... Mercy.
00:29:19.05\00:29:20.39
"I heard the Holy
Spirit and I said no."
00:29:20.42\00:29:23.29
Do you know that?
That's happened to me.
00:29:23.32\00:29:25.29
I know times when the
Holy Spirit prompting me,
00:29:25.33\00:29:28.50
"Jill, go over here and
apologize to Pastor Kenny."
00:29:28.53\00:29:31.83
Mercy.
00:29:31.87\00:29:33.20
Which I think we're good,
00:29:33.23\00:29:34.57
so I don't think
I need to do that.
00:29:34.60\00:29:35.94
Absolute. Amen.
00:29:35.97\00:29:38.07
But I'm just making this up,
00:29:38.11\00:29:39.71
so the Holy
Spirit says apologize,
00:29:39.74\00:29:41.58
and I say, "But I might look bad
00:29:41.61\00:29:43.31
if I go
apologize to Pastor Kenny
00:29:43.35\00:29:45.61
or he might think
badly of me," or I think,
00:29:45.65\00:29:48.85
"I was in the right
and it was your issue."
00:29:48.88\00:29:52.12
All these mind games
we play with ourselves
00:29:52.15\00:29:54.66
instead of saying,
00:29:54.69\00:29:56.02
"The Holy Spirit
told me to do this."
00:29:56.06\00:29:57.93
Yes. I need to
walk in obedience.
00:29:57.96\00:29:59.83
So in this case Philip walked,
00:29:59.86\00:30:01.53
he'd listened to
what the Holy Spirit said
00:30:01.56\00:30:04.00
and he stepped out.
00:30:04.03\00:30:05.37
So what makes a person?
00:30:05.40\00:30:06.74
A mind to reason,
00:30:06.77\00:30:08.10
a will to choose,
speech to communicate,
00:30:08.14\00:30:10.74
I think a heart to
love, the ability to love.
00:30:10.77\00:30:14.34
Amen, that's big, yeah.
And we see that in Romans 15.
00:30:14.38\00:30:18.91
Let's look at Romans 15.
00:30:18.95\00:30:20.72
Romans 15, we're going to
look at verse 30, you got it.
00:30:25.45\00:30:29.72
Yeah.
00:30:29.76\00:30:31.09
"Now I beg you, brethren,
through the Lord Jesus Christ,
00:30:31.13\00:30:34.86
and through the
love of the Spirit,
00:30:34.90\00:30:37.33
that you strive together with me
00:30:37.37\00:30:39.27
in prayers to God for me."
00:30:39.30\00:30:40.64
You noticed that,
00:30:40.67\00:30:42.00
"Through the
love of the spirit."
00:30:42.04\00:30:44.51
Yeah, amen. The
Holy Spirit loves.
00:30:44.54\00:30:47.24
It's difficult for me in
my own human understanding
00:30:47.28\00:30:51.05
to
conceptualize the Holy Spirit.
00:30:51.08\00:30:53.55
Yes. You know Jesus is easier.
00:30:53.58\00:30:57.49
He took on human flesh
00:30:57.52\00:31:00.22
and so we imagine
the form of a man now,
00:31:00.26\00:31:02.59
you know, how artists
draw pictures of Jesus.
00:31:02.62\00:31:04.99
Some people say He
looked Middle Eastern.
00:31:05.03\00:31:09.63
So darker skin a
little bit, dark eyes,
00:31:09.66\00:31:12.73
probably some
people draw other pictures
00:31:12.77\00:31:14.90
but still we have the
image of the form of a man.
00:31:14.94\00:31:18.81
God's a little
harder to conceptualize,
00:31:18.84\00:31:21.68
you think the
disciples remember,
00:31:21.71\00:31:23.08
they said, "Show us the Father."
00:31:23.11\00:31:24.45
Yes.
00:31:24.48\00:31:25.81
And what did Jesus say,
00:31:25.85\00:31:27.18
"Have not I been
with you so long, Philip?"
00:31:27.22\00:31:29.48
Yeah, you've seen me...
00:31:29.52\00:31:30.85
"You've seen me,
you've seen the father."
00:31:30.89\00:31:32.39
Amen.
00:31:32.42\00:31:33.76
Hebrew 1, I think it's Hebrew,
anyway, it's expressed image.
00:31:33.79\00:31:37.06
Yeah. Amen.
00:31:37.09\00:31:38.43
Of the father, you'll see, yeah.
00:31:38.46\00:31:39.79
Yeah. That's
it. Yeah, beautiful.
00:31:39.83\00:31:41.53
And so then, we
think of the Holy Spirit.
00:31:41.56\00:31:46.20
Now, if God is
a little difficult
00:31:46.23\00:31:47.90
to
conceptualize, the Holy Spirit,
00:31:47.94\00:31:50.31
but we know beyond
a shadow of a doubt,
00:31:50.34\00:31:53.14
the Holy Spirit is divine.
00:31:53.17\00:31:55.14
The Holy Spirit
is part of the God...
00:31:55.18\00:31:56.75
Yes. The Holy
Spirit is the person.
00:31:56.78\00:31:59.61
Now, what that form
or what it looks like?
00:31:59.65\00:32:03.18
We can't really
conceptualize that,
00:32:03.22\00:32:04.55
but we know the Holy
Spirit is not a force.
00:32:04.59\00:32:07.36
Romans 15:13, we
just jumped back,
00:32:07.39\00:32:10.93
they had something interesting
in the lesson they said
00:32:10.96\00:32:13.16
what if we replace
some of these passages
00:32:13.19\00:32:15.16
where it says the Holy Spirit
with the impersonal word power.
00:32:15.20\00:32:19.07
What if we put power in?
00:32:19.10\00:32:20.44
So if you do that
say in Romans 15:13,
00:32:20.47\00:32:22.94
"Now may the
God of hope fill you
00:32:22.97\00:32:24.54
with all joy and
peace in believing,
00:32:24.57\00:32:26.57
you may abound
in hope by the power
00:32:26.61\00:32:28.41
of the power."
00:32:28.44\00:32:29.78
No. No, no, yeah.
00:32:29.81\00:32:31.15
That does not work.
00:32:31.18\00:32:32.51
Fit. It does not fit.
00:32:32.55\00:32:34.75
The Holy Spirit is a
person, that's right.
00:32:34.78\00:32:38.52
Amen.
00:32:38.55\00:32:39.89
We see the divine nature
00:32:39.92\00:32:41.26
of the Holy
Spirit, the combination.
00:32:41.29\00:32:43.12
They mentioned in Matthew 28.
00:32:43.16\00:32:45.79
Let's just turn
there, and I know
00:32:45.83\00:32:47.40
we've talked about
this on a previous lesson
00:32:47.43\00:32:48.96
about Matthew 28:18-20,
00:32:49.00\00:32:52.53
we see the Godhead
mentioned here together...
00:32:52.57\00:32:56.17
Amen.
00:32:56.20\00:32:57.54
In concert, in
unity, Matthew 28:18-20,
00:32:57.57\00:33:01.78
"Jesus came and
spoke to them saying
00:33:01.81\00:33:04.75
all of the
authority or King James'
00:33:04.78\00:33:06.38
all power has been given
to me in heaven and on earth.
00:33:06.41\00:33:10.79
Go there for
00:33:10.82\00:33:12.15
and make
disciples of all nations,
00:33:12.19\00:33:14.92
baptizing them in the name..."
00:33:14.96\00:33:18.19
You notice name is singular,
it doesn't say the names
00:33:18.23\00:33:21.96
of the Father
Son and Holy Spirit.
00:33:22.00\00:33:23.60
Now, I don't mean
this to be sacrilegious.
00:33:23.63\00:33:25.37
Oh, well.
00:33:25.40\00:33:26.74
What if we said we baptize
00:33:26.77\00:33:28.10
in the name of
Kenny, Brian, and Mollie.
00:33:28.14\00:33:30.27
I'm not trying
to be sacrilegious,
00:33:30.31\00:33:32.54
but it would be names, right?
00:33:32.57\00:33:34.14
That's right.
00:33:34.18\00:33:35.51
Because you are
three separate people
00:33:35.54\00:33:37.25
but this says in the name.
00:33:37.28\00:33:39.25
Singular.
00:33:39.28\00:33:40.62
Singular...
00:33:40.65\00:33:41.98
That's right.
00:33:42.02\00:33:43.35
Of the Father,
Son and Holy Spirit
00:33:43.39\00:33:44.72
because it shows the Godhead...
00:33:44.75\00:33:46.99
Amen.
00:33:47.02\00:33:48.36
It shows they're one in purpose,
00:33:48.39\00:33:49.72
one in mission,
00:33:49.76\00:33:51.29
but three
separate distinct people.
00:33:51.33\00:33:53.36
Amen.
00:33:53.40\00:33:54.73
And how that
happens, I really don't know.
00:33:54.76\00:33:57.43
Yeah, that's a little...
00:33:57.47\00:33:58.83
But it's so need to understand
00:33:58.87\00:34:02.40
more of the personal
aspect of the Holy Spirit.
00:34:02.44\00:34:04.97
How do you think
the understanding
00:34:05.01\00:34:06.34
of the personhood
of the Holy Spirit?
00:34:06.37\00:34:08.64
How does it make a difference
in our own walk with God?
00:34:08.68\00:34:11.41
Why does it matter?
00:34:11.45\00:34:13.48
The number one is truth. Good.
00:34:13.52\00:34:17.09
Truth matters. Good.
00:34:17.12\00:34:18.79
You know, and Jesus
said in Matthew 4:4,
00:34:18.82\00:34:20.99
"Every word that
proceeds out of the mouth,"
00:34:21.02\00:34:23.02
you know, every
word is important,
00:34:23.06\00:34:25.09
truth is important,
00:34:25.13\00:34:26.46
sanctification comes
by knowing what truth is.
00:34:26.49\00:34:28.76
So we need to understand
that so that we may show
00:34:28.80\00:34:32.27
proper reverence and respect
00:34:32.30\00:34:35.67
and this is encouraging
me always the Holy Spirit.
00:34:35.70\00:34:39.94
Many times, I
think we've left Him out,
00:34:39.97\00:34:42.24
maybe I'm the only
one, sometime we pray,
00:34:42.28\00:34:44.11
you know, the Father
in the name of Jesus,
00:34:44.15\00:34:46.11
you know, thank the Holy Spirit
and leave it on, you know.
00:34:46.15\00:34:48.82
It's bigger than that.
00:34:48.85\00:34:50.19
We learned that, we
learn to love and respect
00:34:50.22\00:34:52.35
and submit to the Holy Spirit.
00:34:52.39\00:34:54.72
Go ahead, Mollie. No,
I want ahead last time.
00:34:54.76\00:34:56.73
You go ahead this time.
00:34:56.76\00:34:58.09
Okay, well, Jill, I
remember when I was a young boy
00:34:58.13\00:35:03.53
at a youth camp,
00:35:03.57\00:35:05.13
and we had a youth leader there,
00:35:05.17\00:35:07.17
and all of us boys just
worship this youth leader.
00:35:07.20\00:35:10.77
He was so much fun,
00:35:10.81\00:35:12.51
he was just someone we
looked up to, we admired,
00:35:12.54\00:35:15.44
and we all want
to get to know him.
00:35:15.48\00:35:17.25
We wanted him to
know us personally,
00:35:17.28\00:35:19.28
we wanted to know him.
00:35:19.31\00:35:20.65
Yeah.
00:35:20.68\00:35:22.02
But there were like
300, 400 of us at camp.
00:35:22.05\00:35:25.95
And some of the
kids were more tenacious
00:35:25.99\00:35:29.39
at getting around close to him,
00:35:29.42\00:35:31.73
tugging on his
pant legs, you know,
00:35:31.76\00:35:33.76
and getting attention
00:35:33.80\00:35:35.13
and then others of us
were not quite as bald,
00:35:35.16\00:35:37.80
you know, and we
were on the outskirts
00:35:37.83\00:35:40.14
looking in longingly,
00:35:40.17\00:35:42.10
wishing we could know
him and he would know us.
00:35:42.14\00:35:45.07
But it wouldn't be possible.
00:35:45.11\00:35:47.41
But you see the Holy
Spirit isn't encumbered...
00:35:47.44\00:35:50.08
That's right. With human flesh.
00:35:50.11\00:35:51.61
Praise God. That's good.
00:35:51.65\00:35:52.98
And He can know
each one of us...
00:35:53.01\00:35:54.52
Amen.
00:35:54.55\00:35:55.88
Personally as if
we're the only ones.
00:35:55.92\00:35:57.89
Amen.
00:35:57.92\00:35:59.25
And that little
experience I had as a kid
00:35:59.29\00:36:01.06
with that youth director
taught me that lesson...
00:36:01.09\00:36:02.96
Yes.
00:36:02.99\00:36:04.33
That with God, the Holy
Spirit, there's no limitations,
00:36:04.36\00:36:08.10
we can have that
personal relationship.
00:36:08.13\00:36:10.37
Oh, that's
beautiful. That's beautiful.
00:36:10.40\00:36:12.03
You know, I think you asked,
00:36:12.07\00:36:13.40
what is the
importance of knowing
00:36:13.44\00:36:15.54
the person of the Holy
Spirit, the person of Jesus,
00:36:15.57\00:36:17.77
and the person
of God, the Father?
00:36:17.81\00:36:20.18
It's not...it's
called Mary the most.
00:36:20.21\00:36:23.65
And that is
clarification for understanding,
00:36:23.68\00:36:28.35
clarification for knowledge,
not clarification for division,
00:36:28.38\00:36:34.09
we're separating
them for clarification.
00:36:34.12\00:36:36.22
Yes.
00:36:36.26\00:36:37.59
Not for division,
they all work as one.
00:36:37.63\00:36:40.23
And as we have
clear understanding
00:36:40.26\00:36:43.80
of the free
personalities in the Godhead...
00:36:43.83\00:36:46.67
Yes.
00:36:46.70\00:36:48.04
Then we know them better,
we understand them better,
00:36:48.07\00:36:50.67
and we can worship them deeper.
00:36:50.71\00:36:52.04
Amen.
00:36:52.07\00:36:53.41
Amen, Mollie, you
are on a roll, Sister
00:36:53.44\00:36:54.78
Mollie, you are on a
roll Wednesdays lesson,
00:36:54.81\00:36:57.08
Spirit of Truth.
00:36:57.11\00:36:58.45
Spirit of Truth, Well,
I thought the first thing
00:36:58.48\00:37:00.12
I should do is
clarify what truth is.
00:37:00.15\00:37:04.22
And so I want you to go to John.
00:37:04.25\00:37:06.76
We are going to be in John
00:37:06.79\00:37:08.36
the 14 chapter
here for just a minute.
00:37:08.39\00:37:11.43
John 14:6, "Jesus said to
him, 'I am the way, the truth,'"
00:37:11.46\00:37:17.83
he is what?
00:37:17.87\00:37:19.20
"The truth and the Life.
00:37:19.23\00:37:20.57
No one comes to the
Father except through me."
00:37:20.60\00:37:23.24
So Jesus is the way
the truth in the life.
00:37:23.27\00:37:24.94
Amen.
00:37:24.97\00:37:26.31
So now go to John 1:1,
go to in the beginning.
00:37:26.34\00:37:29.44
You say, "Go to
in the beginning,"
00:37:29.48\00:37:30.81
people want to run to Genesis,
no, no, let's go to John 1:1,
00:37:30.85\00:37:34.18
"In the beginning was the...
00:37:34.22\00:37:35.68
Word.
00:37:35.72\00:37:37.32
And the Word was with
God and the Word was God."
00:37:37.35\00:37:41.22
John 1:14 and the what?
00:37:41.26\00:37:44.56
"And the Word became
flesh and dwelt among us."
00:37:44.59\00:37:48.13
So who was in the
beginning with God
00:37:48.16\00:37:50.00
and who became
flesh to dwell with us?
00:37:50.03\00:37:53.17
Who would that be? Jesus.
00:37:53.20\00:37:54.54
That would be the
Lord Jesus Christ.
00:37:54.57\00:37:56.40
Now, in John
17:17, the scripture says,
00:37:56.44\00:38:02.21
"Sanctify them by your truth."
00:38:02.24\00:38:05.55
Truth, amen.
"Your word is truth."
00:38:05.58\00:38:08.55
So John 1:14 says,
"The Word became flesh.
00:38:08.58\00:38:12.12
Who became flesh?
The Lord Jesus Christ.
00:38:12.15\00:38:14.92
"Sanctify them by your
truth, your word is truth."
00:38:14.96\00:38:19.46
So when we say that,
00:38:19.49\00:38:21.43
that we're talking
of the Spirit of Truth,
00:38:21.46\00:38:24.20
we're talking about the spirit
00:38:24.23\00:38:26.37
that expressly
reveals only one thing,
00:38:26.40\00:38:30.74
and that is the
truth of God's Word.
00:38:30.77\00:38:32.67
Amen.
00:38:32.71\00:38:34.04
What did we learn last
week? That the directive
00:38:34.08\00:38:37.35
and I think the
week before as well
00:38:37.38\00:38:39.25
of the Holy Spirit
is to glorify Jesus.
00:38:39.28\00:38:40.85
Amen.
00:38:40.88\00:38:42.22
He always is
pointing us to Jesus,
00:38:42.25\00:38:44.62
and so he's also always
pointing us to the word.
00:38:44.65\00:38:47.99
And Brian, one of
the most amazing things
00:38:48.02\00:38:50.99
we find in the scriptures
that this word was written
00:38:51.03\00:38:56.00
when the Holy Spirit breathed on
00:38:56.03\00:39:00.17
or prompted or
moved the holy Menoval.
00:39:00.20\00:39:03.47
So who initially prompted
00:39:03.51\00:39:06.41
the Menoval to write this word,
00:39:06.44\00:39:08.88
it was the Holy
Spirit and today,
00:39:08.91\00:39:11.11
both of you
prayed before we sat,
00:39:11.15\00:39:13.15
before we started today.
00:39:13.18\00:39:14.62
Both of you
said, "Holy Spirit...
00:39:14.65\00:39:16.28
Amen.
00:39:16.32\00:39:17.65
Direct our hearts."
00:39:17.69\00:39:19.02
Amen.
00:39:19.05\00:39:20.39
So the very Holy
Spirit that initially
00:39:20.42\00:39:23.99
brought this word into being
00:39:24.03\00:39:25.53
for the holy Menoval
is the very Holy Spirit
00:39:25.56\00:39:28.43
that is with us right now...
00:39:28.46\00:39:29.96
Amen. Amen.
00:39:30.00\00:39:31.33
Teaching us and revealing
to us this word of truth.
00:39:31.37\00:39:35.97
Our understanding of truth,
00:39:36.00\00:39:38.27
minding your understanding
of truth can be abstract.
00:39:38.31\00:39:41.51
Now, let me ask you this,
00:39:41.54\00:39:43.78
has anyone ever
told you something
00:39:43.81\00:39:46.21
and swore they were
telling you the truth?
00:39:46.25\00:39:48.52
Oh, mercy. And
you believed them?
00:39:48.55\00:39:51.02
Oh, yeah.
00:39:51.05\00:39:52.39
And you found out later
00:39:52.42\00:39:54.06
that they were
just lying to you.
00:39:54.09\00:39:57.03
How can you know
without any reasonable...
00:39:57.06\00:40:00.36
With no question that
something is the truth?
00:40:00.40\00:40:04.67
If it's written in this Bible...
00:40:04.70\00:40:06.30
Amen. Amen.
00:40:06.33\00:40:07.67
If the Spirit of
Truth reveals it to us...
00:40:07.70\00:40:09.94
Yes.
00:40:09.97\00:40:11.31
Then if it's
written in this bible,
00:40:11.34\00:40:12.71
we can count on it
00:40:12.74\00:40:14.38
and this word in
Psalms 1:19, 1:89,
00:40:14.41\00:40:20.62
the scripture
says, "Forever oh, Lord
00:40:20.65\00:40:24.42
your word is
settled in the heavens."
00:40:24.45\00:40:26.92
Don't you love Psalms
1:19? That's beautiful.
00:40:26.96\00:40:29.29
That is the...
00:40:29.32\00:40:30.66
Yeah, settled.
00:40:30.69\00:40:32.03
It's long but it
tells you so much
00:40:32.06\00:40:33.40
about God's word...
00:40:33.43\00:40:34.76
Amen.
00:40:34.80\00:40:36.13
"Forever oh Lord, your
word is settled in the heavens."
00:40:36.16\00:40:38.30
Now, that word settled,
00:40:38.33\00:40:40.20
the word is natsab, N-A-T-S-A-B,
00:40:40.24\00:40:43.54
you know what natsab means?
00:40:43.57\00:40:45.17
To be established as a fortress.
00:40:45.21\00:40:47.84
Mercy. Amen.
"So forever oh, God,
00:40:47.88\00:40:50.35
This word is settled as
a fortress in the heaven."
00:40:50.38\00:40:54.48
Beautiful.
00:40:54.52\00:40:55.85
This word is
guarding, it can't be changed,
00:40:55.88\00:40:58.89
it will never be changed
and it's established, how long?
00:40:58.92\00:41:02.99
"Forever, oh, God,
Your word is established
00:41:03.02\00:41:05.73
in the heavenly."
00:41:05.76\00:41:07.13
Now, go, I still
got you in Chapter,
00:41:07.16\00:41:10.57
John, let's look at 15:26.
00:41:10.60\00:41:16.77
John 15:26, "But
when the helper comes..."
00:41:16.81\00:41:20.78
I think we've already
shared this once today.
00:41:20.81\00:41:22.31
Yes, all right.
00:41:22.34\00:41:23.68
"Whom I shall send
to you from the Father,
00:41:23.71\00:41:26.18
the Spirit of Truth who
proceeds from the Father,
00:41:26.21\00:41:30.25
He will testify
of Me," Jesus says.
00:41:30.29\00:41:32.02
Amen.
00:41:32.05\00:41:33.39
So the only thing the
Spirit of truth is going
00:41:33.42\00:41:36.49
to testify of is Jesus,
and we've already determined,
00:41:36.52\00:41:40.20
Jesus is the Word
and the Word is Jesus,
00:41:40.23\00:41:43.20
His word is
established in the heavenly...
00:41:43.23\00:41:45.23
Yes.
00:41:45.27\00:41:46.60
And is there to
guard or to garrison
00:41:46.63\00:41:48.40
or to protect us...
00:41:48.44\00:41:49.77
Amen.
00:41:49.80\00:41:51.14
As long, Brian, is our mind
00:41:51.17\00:41:52.51
is securely in
of the Word of God
00:41:52.54\00:41:54.91
and it's guarded or
protected by God's word,
00:41:54.94\00:41:57.81
then we cannot be led astray.
00:41:57.85\00:41:59.78
That's right.
00:41:59.81\00:42:01.15
People can lie
to us all day long,
00:42:01.18\00:42:03.15
but this word
will never do anything.
00:42:03.18\00:42:04.65
Amen. Amen.
00:42:04.69\00:42:06.02
But establish us in the
truth. Very good, that's right.
00:42:06.05\00:42:08.29
John 16:13, "However, when He,
the Spirit of truth has come,
00:42:08.32\00:42:14.00
He will guide
you into all truth."
00:42:14.03\00:42:15.36
So what is that is the
Holy Spirit going to do?
00:42:15.40\00:42:18.43
Guides. "Guide
you in to all truth...
00:42:18.47\00:42:20.64
For He will not
speaking on His own authority
00:42:20.67\00:42:23.61
but whatever He
hears, He will speak
00:42:23.64\00:42:26.51
and He will tell
you things to come."
00:42:26.54\00:42:28.14
Oh, glory.
00:42:28.18\00:42:29.51
"The truth, the
Spirit of truth will lead us
00:42:29.54\00:42:31.75
into our living
faith and relationship
00:42:31.78\00:42:34.28
with the Lord Jesus Christ."
00:42:34.32\00:42:35.65
Amen.
00:42:35.68\00:42:37.02
"Truth is in the
Bible, is an abstract,
00:42:37.05\00:42:40.39
it's not a theory."
00:42:40.42\00:42:41.96
The truth in the
Bible is something
00:42:41.99\00:42:44.13
you can take to
the bank every time.
00:42:44.16\00:42:46.23
Yeah.
00:42:46.26\00:42:47.60
This is the truth,
00:42:47.63\00:42:48.96
this is what is
spirit of truth opens up
00:42:49.00\00:42:50.33
and reveals to us
because this truth is settled,
00:42:50.37\00:42:55.04
it's established,
it will never change.
00:42:55.07\00:42:56.54
Yeah, beautiful.
00:42:56.57\00:42:57.91
Just as God will never change,
this Word will never Change.
00:42:57.94\00:43:01.01
Amen.
00:43:01.04\00:43:02.38
Did you do read verse
15 on that, it was just 14
00:43:02.41\00:43:06.11
'cause that
just got my attention
00:43:06.15\00:43:07.52
on the John 16:15,
did you read that one?
00:43:07.55\00:43:11.19
I don't know if you...
00:43:11.22\00:43:12.55
I think you stopped at 14.
Will you go ahead and read?
00:43:12.59\00:43:14.39
I just thought how interesting
00:43:14.42\00:43:15.76
because once
again it established
00:43:15.79\00:43:17.13
what we've been
talking about here?
00:43:17.16\00:43:18.49
Yes.
00:43:18.53\00:43:19.86
"All things that The
Father has are mine..."
00:43:19.89\00:43:22.83
Interesting, who's the owner?
00:43:22.86\00:43:24.77
Jesus, everything's
been right putting His hands.
00:43:24.80\00:43:27.10
"Therefore, said I
that He shall take of mine
00:43:27.14\00:43:30.91
and shall show it unto you."
00:43:30.94\00:43:34.88
Holy Spirit is
showing us Christ, right?
00:43:34.91\00:43:37.68
Everything that Christ
did, everything that He lived,
00:43:37.71\00:43:41.02
everything about Christ.
00:43:41.05\00:43:42.38
I mean, think
about with Calvary,
00:43:42.42\00:43:43.75
think about conviction
with one for the Holy Spirit,
00:43:43.79\00:43:46.12
all of that, be
careful with this,
00:43:46.15\00:43:47.52
would all be in vain.
00:43:47.56\00:43:49.22
Because there
has to be conviction
00:43:49.26\00:43:50.79
for us to fill
our need of a savior,
00:43:50.83\00:43:52.36
that I am a sinner,
that I'm in need of grace
00:43:52.39\00:43:55.16
that I am in need
of the Holy Spirit
00:43:55.20\00:43:56.73
and when it convicts me,
00:43:56.77\00:43:58.43
it drives me to
the further cross,
00:43:58.47\00:44:00.57
you know, I don't want to
lay that heavy burden down.
00:44:00.60\00:44:02.30
Amen.
00:44:02.34\00:44:03.67
So, you know, thank
God, you know, for...
00:44:03.71\00:44:05.37
I'm like you, one
of the favorite books,
00:44:05.41\00:44:07.08
the book of John
because it just...
00:44:07.11\00:44:08.44
I love John.
00:44:08.48\00:44:09.81
Reveals the Spirit and
Jesus in such a manifest way
00:44:09.84\00:44:12.18
that I can help, but love it.
00:44:12.21\00:44:14.15
It shows us our Lord.
00:44:14.18\00:44:15.52
It shows us the
truth of His Word
00:44:15.55\00:44:17.39
and establishes our
heart with God's Word.
00:44:17.42\00:44:21.72
We can never go wrong
00:44:21.76\00:44:23.16
in reading and
studying God's Word
00:44:23.19\00:44:25.29
because it's His Word.
00:44:25.33\00:44:27.60
We've been predestined.
00:44:27.63\00:44:29.76
Do you all believe
in pre-destination?
00:44:29.80\00:44:31.13
You know, there's...
00:44:31.17\00:44:32.50
I do biblical one.
00:44:32.53\00:44:33.87
Biblical, there it is
biblical pre-destination
00:44:33.90\00:44:36.14
and the entrance of God's
Word, you know, it changes us...
00:44:36.17\00:44:40.41
Amen.
00:44:40.44\00:44:41.78
Into very image
and likeness of God
00:44:41.81\00:44:43.14
and Romans tells us that
00:44:43.18\00:44:45.91
we have been
predestined to be conformed...
00:44:45.95\00:44:48.95
That's right.
00:44:48.98\00:44:50.32
To the image of
the Lord Jesus Christ.
00:44:50.35\00:44:51.69
And, you know,
00:44:51.72\00:44:53.05
seed produces
after its own kind,
00:44:53.09\00:44:54.42
you ever heard that?
00:44:54.46\00:44:55.79
Seed produces it,
what is this word like
00:44:55.82\00:44:58.79
and don't you. Is
it like under sea?
00:44:58.83\00:45:00.33
Remember the sower in Mark 4,
00:45:00.36\00:45:03.63
so we sow seed, that's
what I pray so often...
00:45:03.67\00:45:07.34
Before I start teaching,
Father as this word goes forth,
00:45:07.37\00:45:10.77
let it be planted deeply
within the soil of our heart
00:45:10.81\00:45:14.78
and let this seed take
root within us and grow
00:45:14.81\00:45:18.98
and produce a crop.
00:45:19.01\00:45:20.72
And the crop, seed's going
to produce a after its own kind
00:45:20.75\00:45:23.72
and so that means
the image and likeness
00:45:23.75\00:45:25.95
which we've been predestined
to be conformed to...
00:45:25.99\00:45:28.66
The image of Christ
00:45:28.69\00:45:30.03
is what is going to be
reproduced within us...
00:45:30.06\00:45:32.69
And this in Mark
using that illustration,
00:45:32.73\00:45:36.87
it said, you know,
there was often types of soils
00:45:36.90\00:45:40.27
but the good soil
which I hope we are,
00:45:40.30\00:45:42.44
and everyone that
is listening today
00:45:42.47\00:45:44.31
is good soil that
00:45:44.34\00:45:45.67
that seed will
go into your heart
00:45:45.71\00:45:48.18
and it will
produce the good soil
00:45:48.21\00:45:50.31
not 34, not 64,
00:45:50.35\00:45:53.15
what kind of
bumper crop do we want.
00:45:53.18\00:45:54.52
A hundred full. Yeah.
00:45:54.55\00:45:55.88
We want to be fruit
producers in the kingdom of God
00:45:55.92\00:45:58.75
by letting the very image
00:45:58.79\00:46:00.59
and likeness of Christ
come forth in our lives.
00:46:00.62\00:46:03.19
Amen. Through the Word of God.
00:46:03.22\00:46:04.56
You know, such
a beautiful point,
00:46:04.59\00:46:05.93
Sister Mollie,
because it took me a while
00:46:05.96\00:46:08.60
to learn this I
think even though
00:46:08.63\00:46:10.87
you had the head
knowledge sometime,
00:46:10.90\00:46:12.87
it's just what you're saying
every seed that is sown...
00:46:12.90\00:46:16.94
Yes. Will produce a harvest.
00:46:16.97\00:46:20.38
When I finally got
that through the mind
00:46:20.41\00:46:21.98
that means every action,
00:46:22.01\00:46:24.85
you know, every make
could have even be thought,
00:46:24.88\00:46:27.92
the way we talk to people,
00:46:27.95\00:46:29.28
the way we deal
with individuals,
00:46:29.32\00:46:31.49
there's an influence.
00:46:31.52\00:46:32.85
There's a seed that is
sown and it will, you said,
00:46:32.89\00:46:35.89
produce the harvest
after its, after its kind.
00:46:35.92\00:46:38.39
Seed produces after its kind.
00:46:38.43\00:46:39.76
So, there's
nothing going to escape
00:46:39.79\00:46:41.13
the king of kings
and lord of lords.
00:46:41.16\00:46:42.60
I believe that was
the first principle
00:46:42.63\00:46:44.27
laid down in God's Word,
00:46:44.30\00:46:45.90
seed produces
after its own kind.
00:46:45.93\00:46:47.74
Amen, amen.
00:46:47.77\00:46:49.10
Well, Thursday's
lesson is, I like the topic,
00:46:49.14\00:46:52.24
why does it matter?
00:46:52.27\00:46:53.61
So we've been talking
about, so why does it matter?
00:46:53.64\00:46:55.08
Yeah, so what? Yeah, so what.
00:46:55.11\00:46:58.01
Often people do say
that about truth, you know...
00:46:58.05\00:47:01.35
They're contending for one view
00:47:01.38\00:47:03.22
and then you
present another view,
00:47:03.25\00:47:05.05
and, "So what? It
really doesn't matter."
00:47:05.09\00:47:07.62
So we've been talking
about the Holy Spirit,
00:47:07.66\00:47:10.86
is the Holy Spirit
like an energy force,
00:47:10.89\00:47:14.36
kind of like static electricity,
00:47:14.40\00:47:18.50
you know, just an
energy that emanates from God
00:47:18.53\00:47:22.60
and somehow interacts with us
00:47:22.64\00:47:25.01
or is the Holy
Spirit actually a person?
00:47:25.04\00:47:28.91
So that's, and we've
been looking at evidence
00:47:28.94\00:47:31.35
for or against that
00:47:31.38\00:47:33.55
and the evidence overwhelmingly
points us to the fact
00:47:33.58\00:47:37.75
that the Holy
Spirit is indeed a person.
00:47:37.79\00:47:40.59
That's right.
00:47:40.62\00:47:41.96
So what does that matter?
Why is that so important?
00:47:41.99\00:47:45.43
Well, the lesson
had about four points
00:47:45.46\00:47:48.26
that they had brought out that,
00:47:48.30\00:47:49.66
if the Holy Spirit is a person
00:47:49.70\00:47:51.83
and then, we treat it as
if is just an energy force,
00:47:51.87\00:47:56.14
then we're not
giving that person
00:47:56.17\00:47:59.04
the deference or the honor
00:47:59.07\00:48:01.11
or the love thus do
him, that was one point.
00:48:01.14\00:48:03.68
Yes, that's big.
00:48:03.71\00:48:05.05
Another point was that
00:48:05.08\00:48:06.92
if the Holy Spirit
is just an energy force
00:48:06.95\00:48:11.05
versus a person, our
natural tendency is to say,
00:48:11.09\00:48:15.46
"Well, how do I use it?
00:48:15.49\00:48:16.83
How can I use it more?" Yeah.
00:48:16.86\00:48:18.19
Yes.
00:48:18.23\00:48:19.56
You know, I have a pen
here laying on my desk here.
00:48:19.59\00:48:22.23
I use this pen, okay.
00:48:22.26\00:48:25.53
I write checks with it,
pay bills, sign documents.
00:48:25.57\00:48:30.87
Jill, you're a writer,
you use a pen for writing.
00:48:30.91\00:48:34.14
Kenny, you're pastor,
00:48:34.18\00:48:35.51
you use pen for
taking notes, you know.
00:48:35.54\00:48:38.61
This is an object,
00:48:38.65\00:48:40.38
I have no
relationship with it, I use it.
00:48:40.42\00:48:43.79
Yes.
00:48:43.82\00:48:45.15
Okay, but I have no
relationship with it.
00:48:45.19\00:48:47.72
Is the Holy Spirit
an object that I use?
00:48:47.76\00:48:52.13
Good point, you know.
00:48:52.16\00:48:53.50
Or is the Holy Spirit...
00:48:53.53\00:48:54.86
It's good.
00:48:54.90\00:48:56.23
A person and if it's a
person, I don't use the person,
00:48:56.26\00:48:59.37
I hope I don't use a person.
00:48:59.40\00:49:00.74
You shouldn't.
00:49:00.77\00:49:02.10
Instead, I have a
relationship. Yeah.
00:49:02.14\00:49:03.47
Amen. With a person.
00:49:03.51\00:49:04.84
That's right.
There's a big difference.
00:49:04.87\00:49:06.21
No, wow, yes.
00:49:06.24\00:49:08.34
Diane and I have
known each other,
00:49:08.38\00:49:11.65
been married for
over 40 years, okay.
00:49:11.68\00:49:15.65
And through those years,
00:49:15.68\00:49:17.59
we've gone
through positive times,
00:49:17.62\00:49:20.39
good times, fun times.
00:49:20.42\00:49:22.62
We've gone through
tragedy together...
00:49:22.66\00:49:25.43
Heartache, difficult situations
and in through it all,
00:49:25.46\00:49:30.20
we've maintained a
relationship, you see.
00:49:30.23\00:49:34.84
What if Diane was
just an energy force
00:49:34.87\00:49:37.54
so I got
acquainted with in college?
00:49:37.57\00:49:39.87
Just an energy
force, I don't know.
00:49:39.91\00:49:42.81
No. Yeah.
00:49:42.84\00:49:44.25
It wouldn't be the
same. That's right.
00:49:44.28\00:49:45.85
It would not be
the same and I'm...
00:49:45.88\00:49:48.68
This is so nice to know
that the scripture tells us
00:49:48.72\00:49:51.89
that the Holy Spirit is a person
00:49:51.92\00:49:55.16
that you and I can
have a relationship...
00:49:55.19\00:49:57.26
Praise the God. Amen.
00:49:57.29\00:49:58.63
And think what would miss...
00:49:58.66\00:50:00.00
Yes. That's right.
00:50:00.03\00:50:01.36
You know... Amen.
00:50:01.40\00:50:02.73
If we didn't have
that relationship,
00:50:02.76\00:50:04.40
if I had just got
to know Diane's name,
00:50:04.43\00:50:07.97
met her once and
then now 40 years,
00:50:08.00\00:50:11.34
never had any relationship with,
00:50:11.37\00:50:14.41
what I have missed out you see.
00:50:14.44\00:50:16.78
You know, I've
had all these years
00:50:16.81\00:50:19.68
of this relationship
00:50:19.71\00:50:21.92
and thinking of the Holy Spirit,
00:50:21.95\00:50:23.92
what if you miss?
00:50:23.95\00:50:26.02
Yeah.
00:50:26.05\00:50:27.39
You know, a lifetime
00:50:27.42\00:50:29.42
of not having a
relationship with a being
00:50:29.46\00:50:32.29
who really wants
to have one with you.
00:50:32.33\00:50:34.93
Absolutely. Amen.
00:50:34.96\00:50:36.56
One of the things
that it pointed out
00:50:36.60\00:50:38.30
is that we tend to
want to use something.
00:50:38.33\00:50:41.80
I see some, and I don't
want to be real critical here,
00:50:41.84\00:50:46.47
but I see some evangelists
00:50:46.51\00:50:48.81
who are heavy into the spirit
00:50:48.84\00:50:50.88
who act like they
demand the spirit,
00:50:50.91\00:50:54.08
they control the spirit
00:50:54.12\00:50:55.98
as if it was just
a force, you know,
00:50:56.02\00:50:58.42
and they may hit
somebody on the head,
00:50:58.45\00:51:01.69
you know, and they fall over
00:51:01.72\00:51:03.43
or do a chest thing
with them and they...
00:51:03.46\00:51:04.89
Mercy.
00:51:04.93\00:51:06.26
You know, fall and I go,
00:51:06.29\00:51:08.03
"Is that how I
use a person? No."
00:51:08.06\00:51:11.77
That's right.
00:51:11.80\00:51:13.13
In fact, if He is a
creator, He participated
00:51:13.17\00:51:17.97
the Spirit of God
hovered it off with patience.
00:51:18.01\00:51:20.64
If He is a creator
and I'm a creature,
00:51:20.68\00:51:24.81
He is infinite and I'm finite,
00:51:24.85\00:51:29.75
if He's eternal
and I'm mortal...
00:51:29.78\00:51:32.22
Yeah.
00:51:32.25\00:51:33.59
You know, it just seems
to me, I wouldn't use him.
00:51:33.62\00:51:39.66
It would maybe actually
be the other way around,
00:51:39.69\00:51:42.00
I would want to yield myself.
00:51:42.03\00:51:43.53
Amen. Right.
00:51:43.57\00:51:44.90
That's Him to be you. Amen.
00:51:44.93\00:51:46.74
Okay. That's right.
00:51:46.77\00:51:48.40
And in a marriage relationship,
00:51:48.44\00:51:49.77
it seems like each party
00:51:49.80\00:51:52.97
and a good marriage is
submitting to the other.
00:51:53.01\00:51:58.18
Yeah.
00:51:58.21\00:51:59.55
It's not one
ruling over the other,
00:51:59.58\00:52:03.08
it's each
submitting to the other,
00:52:03.12\00:52:06.65
and so I wonder
if the Holy Spirit,
00:52:06.69\00:52:10.46
He is serving us and
we should be willing,
00:52:10.49\00:52:15.66
like in a marriage,
to yield to his service.
00:52:15.70\00:52:19.67
Just like a marriage
relationship, you know.
00:52:19.70\00:52:22.30
Amen. So I think it does matter.
00:52:22.34\00:52:23.67
I think it
matters a lot... Amen.
00:52:23.71\00:52:25.37
Whether the Holy
Spirit is a personage
00:52:25.41\00:52:28.48
versus just the energy force.
00:52:28.51\00:52:31.71
Absolutely.
00:52:31.75\00:52:33.78
Another point they had here
00:52:33.82\00:52:35.35
is if we do not accept
the Holy Spirit as a person,
00:52:35.38\00:52:39.69
it will be
easier for us to ignore,
00:52:39.72\00:52:43.12
just close our
ears to the voice.
00:52:43.16\00:52:46.70
Yeah,
00:52:46.73\00:52:48.06
No, because it's just an energy
force, so it doesn't speak,
00:52:48.10\00:52:50.37
it just somehow moves, no,
00:52:50.40\00:52:52.83
the Holy Spirit
does speak to us.
00:52:52.87\00:52:55.40
I think it was you mentioned
about times in your life
00:52:55.44\00:52:58.67
where you've felt
the Holy Spirit speak
00:52:58.71\00:53:01.54
and then you haven't.
00:53:01.58\00:53:04.31
I've had that same
wrestling and for me,
00:53:04.35\00:53:08.02
it's like, is it my voice?
00:53:08.05\00:53:09.92
Yes. Or is it His voice?
00:53:09.95\00:53:13.36
Is this my own thinking
or if it's His thinking?
00:53:13.39\00:53:17.79
And one of the things
Diane and I've talked about this
00:53:17.83\00:53:21.23
in our study
00:53:21.26\00:53:23.87
and some people
are just more attuned
00:53:23.90\00:53:27.34
to recognizing the
voice and following it.
00:53:27.37\00:53:31.84
Yes.
00:53:31.87\00:53:33.21
And I'm wondering,
if like for myself,
00:53:33.24\00:53:35.44
if I'm not, if I don't always
00:53:35.48\00:53:38.61
recognize the voice
00:53:38.65\00:53:39.98
because I'm not
as in tuned to it.
00:53:40.02\00:53:42.92
I'm living my life as though...
00:53:42.95\00:53:44.52
Yes.
00:53:44.55\00:53:45.89
I'm in charge and not
listening to anybody else,
00:53:45.92\00:53:49.76
then I'm just
listening to myself
00:53:49.79\00:53:51.63
and so then when he does
speak, I'm not is sensitive
00:53:51.66\00:53:55.46
that it's Him
speaking versus me, you know.
00:53:55.50\00:53:59.37
You know, I wonder when you say,
00:53:59.40\00:54:00.74
I don't mean to interrupt...
00:54:00.77\00:54:02.10
It just as you give me
a lot of thoughts here...
00:54:02.14\00:54:03.91
Thoughts that
change quickly was is,
00:54:03.94\00:54:06.61
how can you know what
voice it is that speaks?
00:54:06.64\00:54:10.05
I'll give you a
quick illustration.
00:54:10.08\00:54:12.05
Many years ago, my son was gone
00:54:12.08\00:54:14.18
for a longer period of time
than he should have been gone.
00:54:14.22\00:54:17.35
And couldn't
figure out where is at,
00:54:17.39\00:54:19.62
I couldn't get a hold of him,
I couldn't do and, you know,
00:54:19.65\00:54:21.59
getting late,
couldn't figure out
00:54:21.62\00:54:23.09
what's going on.
00:54:23.12\00:54:24.46
So we, you know, as
parents you begin to worry,
00:54:24.49\00:54:25.83
say something has happened,
00:54:25.86\00:54:27.20
maybe he got in the wrong crowd,
00:54:27.23\00:54:28.56
something's
happened and I said, "Lord,
00:54:28.60\00:54:29.96
I need to know where he's at,
can you tell me where he's at,
00:54:30.00\00:54:32.97
so that I may go and see?"
00:54:33.00\00:54:35.14
You know, Lord told me.
00:54:35.17\00:54:36.50
He said, "You go,
00:54:36.54\00:54:38.41
This is his time,
you go to Carbondale
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and you go to
such and such a store
00:54:40.88\00:54:43.04
and he'll be coming
out when you go there."
00:54:43.08\00:54:45.78
And I thought, "Man,
this is either one spirit
00:54:45.81\00:54:48.48
the other saying
so late at night,
00:54:48.52\00:54:50.35
I'm going to get a
drive all way over there."
00:54:50.39\00:54:52.99
I drove all way
there, went to that building,
00:54:53.02\00:54:56.19
got out of my truck and
says I did the door open,
00:54:56.22\00:54:58.46
here he came with
three or four other fellows.
00:54:58.49\00:55:01.26
And so anyway, I got
to get him in the truck,
00:55:01.30\00:55:03.57
get him scold him, way so...
00:55:03.60\00:55:04.93
I know for me, I want...
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I longed to be able
to discern that voice...
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Amen. Amen.
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When He speaks...
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And then respond to us,
you know, and not hold back,
00:55:12.97\00:55:16.95
there's many times
where Lord's has prompted me,
00:55:16.98\00:55:19.71
I feel the Lord's prompted me
00:55:19.75\00:55:21.15
to say
something, to do something.
00:55:21.18\00:55:22.68
That's right. That's it.
00:55:22.72\00:55:24.05
You know, and then, I
just sort of neglected it,
00:55:24.09\00:55:27.26
you know, and Mollie?
00:55:27.29\00:55:29.86
Well, I wanted to do a
little clarification here
00:55:29.89\00:55:32.93
because we're saying
the voice of the spirit,
00:55:32.96\00:55:34.96
and we with our Christianizes,
you know, what we're saying,
00:55:35.00\00:55:38.70
we need that prompting,
that still small voice...
00:55:38.73\00:55:40.77
Come on.
00:55:40.80\00:55:42.14
That is from
internal, not external.
00:55:42.17\00:55:44.11
And so if you're thinking,
"I've never heard a voice,"
00:55:44.14\00:55:48.21
you know, most people
don't... maybe some people do,
00:55:48.24\00:55:51.58
but I've never
heard of audible voice
00:55:51.61\00:55:54.42
but I have had that
prompting in my speech.
00:55:54.45\00:55:56.58
That's right.
00:55:56.62\00:55:57.95
And that's what
we're talking about
00:55:57.99\00:55:59.32
the voice of the
Spirit, it's from internal.
00:55:59.35\00:56:02.49
But it's so
real, isn't the time,
00:56:02.52\00:56:03.86
it's almost like
reading it off of prompter.
00:56:03.89\00:56:06.90
You know, yeah, you
sit there and you just...
00:56:06.93\00:56:09.63
that's how indelibly
it's putting your mind
00:56:09.66\00:56:11.10
and your heart...
00:56:11.13\00:56:12.80
And we just say,
"The Spirits spoke to us."
00:56:12.83\00:56:15.44
And that's how
He's chosen spoke to us,
00:56:15.47\00:56:17.14
so thank you for bringing that.
00:56:17.17\00:56:18.51
And Kenny, just as I
close here with my time,
00:56:18.54\00:56:21.44
you mentioned when you
began our study this morning,
00:56:21.48\00:56:26.15
a book, is that Desire of Ages
00:56:26.18\00:56:29.28
and you think
you quoted page 699
00:56:29.32\00:56:31.95
or something like that,
00:56:31.99\00:56:34.46
and I was just
thinking our viewers,
00:56:34.49\00:56:35.82
if any of you are
interested in that book
00:56:35.86\00:56:37.63
and that book is a
book on the life of Christ.
00:56:37.66\00:56:39.53
Amen. Desire of ages.
00:56:39.56\00:56:41.03
Every once in a
while on this program,
00:56:41.06\00:56:42.56
we will share
information about resources,
00:56:42.60\00:56:46.23
well, that's a
resource, you just call 3ABN.
00:56:46.27\00:56:48.80
Good.
00:56:48.84\00:56:50.17
And we can
provide that book for you.
00:56:50.21\00:56:51.71
So it's the best book
00:56:51.74\00:56:53.07
you'll ever read
on the life of Christ.
00:56:53.11\00:56:54.44
Amen, amen.
00:56:54.48\00:56:55.81
And I know most of
us here have read it,
00:56:55.84\00:56:57.18
re-read it and it's
a blessing every time.
00:56:57.21\00:56:59.75
You know, I want
to thank each one,
00:56:59.78\00:57:01.12
If you have just
a quick something
00:57:01.15\00:57:02.48
you want to say, would do.
00:57:02.52\00:57:03.85
We have a little
less than a minute left,
00:57:03.89\00:57:05.22
but it's been a good study
00:57:05.25\00:57:06.59
and sure appreciate the
insight that the Holy Spirit
00:57:06.62\00:57:08.36
has given each one of you
00:57:08.39\00:57:09.92
and each one of you
spoke, my heart's been...
00:57:09.96\00:57:12.86
The Holy Spirit's been
speaking to my heart...
00:57:12.89\00:57:14.73
Bringing things to my mind
00:57:14.76\00:57:16.10
and so and it's hard
not to just jump right in,
00:57:16.13\00:57:18.60
say something sometime
because the Holy Spirit
00:57:18.63\00:57:21.14
has motivated you and
it's spoken to my heart.
00:57:21.17\00:57:23.20
So we're very
grateful and thankful
00:57:23.24\00:57:25.21
for your input today
00:57:25.24\00:57:26.61
from the power
of the Holy Spirit.
00:57:26.64\00:57:28.74
I'm thankful for
what was said here.
00:57:28.78\00:57:30.55
All kind of materials
that you can get from 3ABN,
00:57:30.58\00:57:33.55
just need to call them
anything that you have,
00:57:33.58\00:57:35.65
the questions you have,
be sure and give them a call.
00:57:35.68\00:57:37.89
And again, I'm going
to give you that address
00:57:37.92\00:57:39.89
real quick for that, if
you want the study guides,
00:57:39.92\00:57:41.99
if you want to
get that download them
00:57:42.02\00:57:43.73
Sabbath School lesson,
do that, absg.adventist.org.
00:57:43.76\00:57:49.70
Please get you one,
download it, study with us,
00:57:49.73\00:57:53.07
we need you to study with us
00:57:53.10\00:57:54.94
and we need for you
to tune in every time
00:57:54.97\00:57:58.37
and share the
blessings of the Holy Spirit.
00:57:58.41\00:58:00.04
God bless you.
See you next time.
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