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Jean Ross: Good morning,
friends, we'd like to welcome
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all of you again to
"Sabbath School Study Hour,"
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coming to you here from
the Amazing Facts offices
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in Sacramento, California.
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We'd like to welcome our online
members and our other church
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members that are joining us
that can't actually meet with us
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in person because of this virus.
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We'd also like to welcome those
joining us across the country
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and around the
world on social media.
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Well, before we
get to our lesson,
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Pastor Doug, let's
start with a word of prayer.
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Dear Father, we thank You again
that we have this opportunity
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to open up Your Word and
study a very important subject,
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talking about Genesis
and the beginning, creation.
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Father, we ask Your blessing.
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Be with us here, also
those who are joining us
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around the country
in Jesus's name, amen.
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Doug Batchelor: Amen.
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Jean: Our lesson today
continues in our study of,
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"How to
Interpret the Scripture."
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Today, we're on
lesson number nine,
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which is entitled, "Creation:
Genesis as Foundation Part Two."
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Last week, we did part one, and
this is sort of a build on that.
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And Pastor Doug, I like
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"How Science
Flunked the Science--"
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Sorry, "How Evolution
Flunked the Science Test."
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Well, Pastor Doug, an
important lesson today.
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Doug: Yes sir, we're
going to be talking again
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about the evidence you
see in the Bible in Genesis
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in particular that
the world was created.
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And actually, we've
got Scriptures going
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all through the Bible.
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And we have a memory
verse, and the memory verse
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is Psalm 19, verse
1, "The heavens declare
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the glory of God and the
firmament shows His handiwork."
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So, we can see the glory of God
in the things that He's made.
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Now, sometimes when you tell
a person that you're a Christian
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and that you believe
the Bible is literally,
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it seems like there's almost
an attitude of pity that comes
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from people in the world.
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And I used to be this way 'cause
I used to be an evolutionist.
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I was not always a Christian, I
was either agnostic or atheist,
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and I thought to myself,
"Who in the world could believe
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these stories of Noah and
the ark, and Adam and Eve,
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and the tower of Babel?"
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And I said, "These
are obviously fairytales."
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And it wasn't until I started
reading the Bible for myself
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that I realized that it
really is a cohesive truth.
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And then I started to evaluate
the teaching of evolution,
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and I started realizing
evolution takes a lot more faith
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to believe in
than biblical creation.
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The idea that you could get all
of this organization and design
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and interworking systems
and symbiotic relationships
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by accident.
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And even as you listen to the
evolutionists do their nature
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programs on
television, when they talk about
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the millions and
the billions of years,
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they talk about the
magic of mother nature.
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So, they're ascribing
supernatural to nature because
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they say, "You know, there
is some kind of magical force.
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And isn't mother
nature wonderful how she does
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these things?"
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And so, they clearly
know there's some intelligence
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behind creation, but they refuse
to believe the biblical account.
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Jean: You know, I'm reminded
of watching one of those nature
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programs, Pastor Doug, and
the commentator was talking
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about how miraculous it
is that you can have life
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and how you have the DNA
that is so central to life,
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and how the cells split
and just the marvel of this,
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and all of the complex
design involved in nature.
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And at the end of
talking about this, he says,
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"And how amazing,
it's almost impossible
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to believe that we
are here, but here we are,
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so it must've happened."
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So, the whole idea of God
is just pushed out of the minds
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because people are
unwilling to acknowledge God.
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Because if you
acknowledge God as the Creator,
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well, then also
there is a responsibility
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that we have
towards Him as our Creator.
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Doug: Yeah, there really
is an all out effort in much
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of modern science today to
expunge anything that smacks
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of the religious or the
supernatural in creation,
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even though it is so obvious
all around us that something
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like that happened.
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But you know, it notes
in the lesson that many
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of the greatest scientists in
history were believers in God.
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And you got Gregor
Mendel, who of course developed
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the theory of genetics.
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Arthur Compton, Isaac Newton,
George Washington Carver,
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Blaise Pascal, Samuel
Morse, the Wright Brothers,
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Michael Faraday, and I
could go on and on talking
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about the great scientists
and inventors, and they said,
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"Oh, absolutely
there has to be a God."
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And so, it's really not fair
that much of the educational
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world today, they alienate
or they push the outside
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or the fringe.
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Any scientist, they say,
"We're not going to let you
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in our circle.
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You can't teach
at our universities."
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If you say you
believe in biblical creation,
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you're blackballed.
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And it's--there's an
obvious effort on the part.
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And the sad thing is
some of these institutions
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like Oxford and
Yale and Harvard,
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they began as
Christian institutions,
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but something
happened along the way.
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With Darwin and "The Origin
of Species," there was a shift.
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And with the French
Revolution, they said,
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"We're in the
age of reason now."
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Even though the French
Revolution sort of turned
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into bloodshed and imploded,
the idea age of reason now
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sort of took over.
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Jean: Right.
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Well, we do have
questions that are coming in,
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and we want to remind you
if you have a question related
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to creation or maybe what does
the Bible say about origins,
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we'd be happy to
take a look at that.
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And if you have a question,
just type it there on Facebook
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in the comment section.
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Pastor Doug, we have
Franklin, who's asking,
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"Was Eve created on the
same day that Adam was created?"
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Doug: Yes.
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Sometimes it confuses people
'cause it talks about Adam
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being made in chapter 1.
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And then later, it
goes back and it talks about
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the details of Eve's creation.
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God made all of His
creatures in the first six days
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male and female.
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It talks about the
Sabbath in Genesis chapter 2,
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but then it backs up
and it explains in detail
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how God created Eve.
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Keep in mind that
in much of the Bible,
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God begins with
headlines, then He backs up
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and He gives the fine print.
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We do this in
newspapers all the time.
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You give the big headline story,
sometimes the headline will
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contain some of the main
story, but then they back up
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and give you the
details in the fine print.
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Headline, in the beginning
God created the heavens
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and the earth.
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Details, you go
through the first six days.
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Then it gives you more details
of the sixth day, when God--
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why God came about to make Eve.
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Says, you know,
Adam named the animals.
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And someone thinks, "How can he
name all the millions of species
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and categories of
animals in one day?
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That would take
more than a day."
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I'm sure he just named
the main categories of them.
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And he noticed that
the bull had the cow
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and the goose had
the-- is it the gander?
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And the rooster had his
chicken, and something was
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missing in his life.
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And God wanted him to
notice that vacuum so that
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he would be especially
excited when He filled it.
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But that was still
all on the sixth day.
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Jean: All right, well,
then one of the question
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that people raise when
they talk about creationists,
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they say, "Well, you know, they
believe myths as far as origin."
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And they quote,
for example and say,
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'Don't you
believe the earth is flat?
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Doesn't the Bible
teach flat earth?'"
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And then they
might even quote a verse
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in Revelation chapter 1, verse--
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or Revelation chapter
7, verse 1 that talks about
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the four angels holding
the four winds of the earth.
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They say, "There you go,
four corners of the earth.
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Would the earth be flat?"
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Doug: Well, we even use
this kind of phraseology today.
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I think Jesus used the same
wording in Matthew 24 talking
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about the Second
Coming, how his angels would go
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to collect the redeemed.
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Says, "He'll send his angels
with the sound of a trumpet.
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They will gather together
His elect from the four winds,
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from one end of
heaven to the other."
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The four winds
being-- and it mentions
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the four winds
also in Revelation 7.
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It's just talking about
four corners of the earth.
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We use that language today.
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We'll say, you know,
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"Somebody went to the
four corners of the earth."
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Well, we don't
believe earth has corners.
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We use a lot of metaphors
when we talk about the world,
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that doesn't mean that
we take them literally.
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In the Bible, it says,
"When the sun went down,"
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and you got an example here.
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Oh, I forget where I put it.
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It talks about
the sun going down,
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but we don't believe that the
sun goes down or the sun rises,
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we know the earth is turning.
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We might say that, you know,
we feel something in our heart.
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Well, we may not
really feel it in the pump,
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you're feeling it in your mind,
but we use these metaphors.
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God says, "Write My
Word in your heart."
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David said, "What
have these sheep done?
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Don't punish these sheep."
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He's talking about the people.
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Well, David knew it's
a metaphor for people.
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Everyone reading
it knows it, so yeah,
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the Bible used common
metaphors, it doesn't mean that
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they scientifically believed
that the earth had four square,
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you know, big flat piece of
land with four squares on it.
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Jean: Well, of
course, when it talks about
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the four winds of heaven,
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we're not talking about
four corners of a flat earth.
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Rather we're talking about
the four points of the compass.
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And of course,
they were aware of that,
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north, south, east, and west.
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And that's four
divisions of the earth.
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You can say, "I'm going
to the east, or the west,
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the north, or the south."
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And so, when the Bible
speaks of the four winds
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or the four corners,
it's really just talking about
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the four points of the compass,
and it's talking about it
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being universal.
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You know, it's
interesting in Daniel,
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you read about a wind
that strove upon the great sea,
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and these four
creatures came up.
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Well, these creatures,
these beasts represent nations,
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the winds
striving on the great sea.
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These four winds represent
the four points of the compass.
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So, there are some symbolism
that we find in the Bible,
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and we need to
study it and understand it
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as to what it means,
this symbolic application.
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Doug: Even when you
talk about the four winds,
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there's
supernatural wisdom there.
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The Bible says,
"God will separate us
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from our sins as far as
the east is from the west."
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Well, they must've known that
the earth revolves east to west,
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and there is no
end to east and west.
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And the Bible talks
about the king of the north
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and the king of the south.
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There is a place where
they have their thrones.
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There's an end
to the North Pole,
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there's an end
to the South Pole.
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God did not say, "I'm
going to separate your sins
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as far as the
north is from the south,"
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because that
would've had a limit.
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But God said, "I'm
separating your sins as far as
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the east is to the west."
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You can go east forever
and ever and never get to east.
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But if you go north,
you will eventually get
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to the North Pole.
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And if you take another
step, you start hitting south.
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So, even in the
Bible, it makes a distinction
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between north and south and
east and west that we recognize
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in the rotation of the earth.
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Jean: Now, if you
ask a Bible scholar,
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"What was the oldest book
that we have in the Bible?"
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you know, we think Genesis,
but there could be a book
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that was written by Moses,
we believe, but was actually
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older than the book of Genesis,
possibly the book of Job.
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And it is
interesting in the book of Job,
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we do find some statements that
is made that show us that there
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is far more to an understanding
of the earth than is credited
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to people living
back in those days.
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Doug: Yeah, you've
got a couple of examples.
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You can look, for instance,
in Job chapter 26, verse 10,
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"He drew a circle on the horizon
on the face of the waters."
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I've been to sea many times,
I've been way out in the middle
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of the ocean, and you can
see, especially if you have
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a high crow's nest, you can
see the circle of the earth.
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And they noticed that when
tall ships were sailing away,
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it seemed like they
were shrinking as they went
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around the curvature.
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If you had good eyes, you
could spot that on a clear day,
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on a flat sea.
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And now there are people,
and I don't want to be unkind,
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but there are people who you
would normally think are normal,
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educated people,
amazingly enough even today
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that believe the earth is flat.
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And I don't want to be unkind,
but it is not, it is round.
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And I've been up in my
dad's Learjet years ago.
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The Learjet flies higher
than a typical commercial jet.
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And when you're at
45,000 feet, you can see,
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clearly see the
curve of the earth.
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It is not a big conspiracy
of NASA and all the governments
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and pilots of the world to
try to keep people in darkness
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about the earth being flat.
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I don't know what
the advantage would be.
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But the earth is round.
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You can also read in Job 26:7,
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"He stretches out the
earth over empty space.
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He hangs it upon nothing."
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Well, all of the
ancient myths said,
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"Well, the earth is on
the back of the tortoise
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or it's on the
shoulders of Atlas."
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And they had all these
myths that the earth was sitting
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on something,
but the Bible says,
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"The earth is
hung upon nothing."
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It's out in
space, and they looked up
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just as they saw the
planets hanging upon nothing.
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And then you can also read
in Isaiah chapter 40, verse 22,
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"Who sits above the circle
of the earth," speaking of God.
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"And its inhabitants are like
grasshoppers who stretches out
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the heavens like a
curtain, and spreads them out
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like a tent to dwell in."
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There's some more metaphors.
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But they did use the
metaphor of a circle.
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Jean: You know, I find
that verse interesting.
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Isaiah 40, verse
22 specifically says,
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"The circle of the earth."
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You know, I had an
experience, Pastor Doug.
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There is a gentleman that
we played racquetball with,
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and he's a Muslim.
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And I was talking
to him, I asked him
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if he's ever
studied the Bible before.
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He said no.
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He asked me if I
ever studied the Koran,
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I said no.
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He said, "Well,
I'll tell you what.
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If you study the Koran
with me for half an hour,
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then we'll study the Bible
together for half an hour."
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I said, "Okay, that's fair."
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So, in our Bible
study, we'd get together,
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and we'd take a look at
different passages in the Koran,
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and then we look at
passage in the Bible.
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And I said, "Well, one
of the things we need to do
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is establish the trustworthiness
of the Scriptures.
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Is there enough
internal evidence in the Koran
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to prove that
it is trustworthy?"
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And I spoke about prophecy
in the Bible, and so on.
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He said, "Oh yeah,
you can trust the Koran."
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I said, "Why is that?"
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He says, "Well, here it is."
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And he found a verse that
says in the Koran that the earth
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is shaped like an egg.
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And he says, "Well, back
when the Koran was written,
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people didn't know
that the earth was round."
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Well, I couldn't help
but turn to this verse
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in Isaiah chapter 40,
verse 22, where it says,
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"He sits above the
circle of the earth."
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And I asked him, "Does the
earth look more like an egg
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or does it look
more like a circle?"
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He smiled and said, "Well, I
guess it is more of a circle."
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And I said, "Well, you
find this verse in Isaiah long
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before the Koran
was ever written."
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So, if you look at the
evidence in the Word of God,
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it helps to
establish its inspiration.
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Something very practical,
another one that we have
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in Job chapter 28,
verse 25, he talks about
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the wind having weight.
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And of course, that's something
that it's new to science
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relatively speaking.
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People back
1,000, 2,000 years ago
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didn't
understand the significance
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of the weight of the air.
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Doug: I don't think it was
until the 18th or 19th century
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that they discovered
that, you know, air pressure,
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that weight
actually-- wind actually has
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or air has weight to it.
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And yet it says here that
way back in the book of Job,
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probably the
oldest book in the Bible,
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the winds had weight.
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So, throughout
the Bible, you can see
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that there are metaphors.
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Jesus says, for
instance, in Matthew 15,
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"For out of the heart
proceed evil thoughts, murders,
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adulteries, fornications,
theft out of the heart."
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He's talking about the mind,
doesn't come out of the pump.
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And they knew that in the Bible
because they knew if he got hit
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on the head, you
didn't think clearly,
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you didn't think with your pump,
you thought with your brain.
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But it still says,
"Hide thy Word in your heart."
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And then it says, "As a
man thinketh in his heart."
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And so, just because
the Bible uses metaphors,
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it's a very scientific book.
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Look at all the sanitation laws.
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You know, the way they
brought many of the plagues,
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ancient pandemics to
a halt is by following
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the sanitation laws.
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And I don't think we
talked about this last week,
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but when they had the
1918 and 1919 Spanish Flu
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during the part of the time
that it went through Europe,
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they discovered a lot
of the Jewish communities
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were not infected because
they were practicing the laws
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of sanitation and contagion
that are found in Leviticus.
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So, it's still a
good scientific book.
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Jean: All right, Pastor Doug,
we're getting a lot of questions
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coming in from Facebook,
and this is a good question.
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It says, "How did people
spread all across the world
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after the tower of Babel?"
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Doug: Well, when you
read in Genesis chapter 11,
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it tells us that all the
world was of one language
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and one people, and they
were defying the command of God
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to go and scatter, and be
fruitful, and fill the earth.
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They thought, "Well, we
need to stick together."
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And probably some
of the leaders thought,
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"We'll have more
power if we have more people
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who can serve us."
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And so, they were
defying the command of God.
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They also did not
trust God would not destroy
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the world with a flood.
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So, they were
building this tower,
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Tower of Babel
for the glory of man.
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And God
confused their languages,
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they could not communicate,
and the work descended
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in strife and bloodshed.
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And those that could communicate
kind of broke off in different
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bands, and they began
to scatter and spread out
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as God has told them.
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And they went to the
different corners of the earth.
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You know, one of the reasons
we believe the Bible is true
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is actually linguistics.
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Because those who study the
languages of the world can track
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the migration of man around
the planet through languages.
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There are clearly similarities
between the languages
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of the Native American
Indians with one another,
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and the DNA
connects them with Mongolia,
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and they find
links in the language
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with the people of Mongolia.
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And you just wrap around
the world and this is true
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in Africa, the different African
tribes maybe with the exception
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of the bushmen, they
have their similarities
00:19:06.64\00:19:08.91
in their pronunciation
and their languages.
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And the same thing,
Denmark, Sweden, Norway,
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they can sort of
understand each other.
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So, they track the migration
of languages around the world
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and they can also prove that we
all came from common ancestors.
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Jean: Another
question that we have,
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"When were the
dinosaurs on the earth,
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and what about the ice age?"
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Doug: All right,
well, dinosaurs is a word,
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"thunder lizards"
that we talk about.
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They were large
reptiles and that are extinct,
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and we have
large reptiles today.
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You know, there's certain
iguanas and there's Komodo
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dragons and--but everything was
much bigger before the flood.
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They not only had
reptiles that were enormous
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and things
probably lived longer.
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Humans lived longer, why would
we not think the animals lived
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much longer back then?
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The oxygen levels in the
environment was much better
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and everything lived longer.
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They had--they got skeletons
of beaver that are 13 feet tall.
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How would you like to run
into a 13-foot tall beaver?
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They got these
giant sloth skeletons.
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Again, they're
like 9 or 13 feet tall.
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The mastodons and
the wooly mammoths,
00:20:15.84\00:20:18.21
much bigger than
the elephants today.
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And so mammals, reptiles,
they were all much bigger.
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After the environment changed,
many of them just did not grow.
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Many of them
were rendered extinct.
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You can read there, it says,
"Nimrod was a mighty hunter."
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Mighty hunters don't hunt mice.
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He probably went after
some of these big creatures,
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and they rendered them extinct
through hunting them all done,
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making a reputation.
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So, after the flood,
some of the bigger dinosaurs
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or those who would be a threat,
they didn't have a chance
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to live as long and
get as big, and they died,
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and the big ones
died off in the flood.
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Jean: What about the ice
age? When did that occur?
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Doug: Well, there's a lot
of changes in the environment
00:20:58.32\00:21:00.72
shortly after the flood.
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I mean, you can
even read where it says,
00:21:02.26\00:21:03.69
"God made a
mighty wind to blow."
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And then the Bible talks
about in the days of Peleg,
00:21:06.23\00:21:08.73
the earth was divided.
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We don't know if that
means the earth was separated
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by the tribes or there was still
tectonic shifting happening
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at that time and volcanoes.
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And I think that a lot
of changes were happening
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after the flood.
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Probably the ice age
came shortly after that.
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And it did not
last thousands of years,
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it all happened rather quickly.
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Jean: Okay, now
something else interesting is,
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you can study different
cultures around the world.
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And just like you
mentioned, there's a similarity
00:21:36.36\00:21:38.19
in language.
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A lot of the
cultures have a similarity
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in origins or creation.
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So, you look at some of
the stories that are out there,
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there are some similarities
even with the biblical account
00:21:46.77\00:21:49.80
that we read in Genesis
with some of these legends
00:21:49.84\00:21:52.41
or these pagan ideas as
to how we got to the earth.
00:21:52.44\00:21:55.94
Doug: Yeah, and what the
skeptics like to say is Moses
00:21:55.98\00:21:59.85
was just picking up some of the
local legends and modified them,
00:21:59.88\00:22:03.75
or they changed for Hebrews
and they put them in there.
00:22:03.79\00:22:06.15
But while there are
similarities, for example,
00:22:06.19\00:22:08.76
you got Adam and Eve, and
Eve eats the forbidden tree,
00:22:08.79\00:22:12.33
and all this evil
comes into the world.
00:22:12.36\00:22:14.10
Well, the Greeks had
the story of Pandora's box.
00:22:14.10\00:22:17.90
I think I got some
different excerpts of these.
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In Pandora's box, you've got
the first woman made from clay,
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that's not quite right
according to the Bible.
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The gods gave her a box or
jar, told her not to open it.
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Well, it was the fruit.
00:22:29.34\00:22:31.35
And the tree you
should not eat from.
00:22:31.38\00:22:33.58
Pandora was trying to tame
her curiosity, but in the end,
00:22:33.62\00:22:36.72
she could not
hold herself anymore.
00:22:36.75\00:22:38.52
She opened the box
and all of the illness,
00:22:38.55\00:22:40.52
hardship that the
gods had hidden in the box
00:22:40.56\00:22:42.79
started coming out.
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Well, when we disobeyed,
the devil moved into the world.
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It's a very different story.
00:22:46.96\00:22:48.80
The sophistication
and the spirituality
00:22:48.83\00:22:50.90
and the reality of God's
version makes a lot more sense.
00:22:50.93\00:22:54.74
The Greeks had a flood story.
00:22:54.77\00:22:57.04
And when Zeus,
the king of the gods,
00:22:57.07\00:22:59.61
resolved to destroy
all humanity by a flood,
00:22:59.64\00:23:01.88
Deucalion constructed an ark,
which according to one version
00:23:01.91\00:23:06.18
he and his wife rode
out the flood and landed
00:23:06.21\00:23:08.48
on Mount Parnassus according
to the flood story found first
00:23:08.52\00:23:14.46
in the Roman poet Ovid's
"Metamorphoses" book one.
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And then they
offered a sacrifice.
00:23:17.73\00:23:19.69
You've got man
and woman survive,
00:23:19.73\00:23:21.86
the gods are angry,
they offer sacrifice.
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Well, it's similar
to the story of Noah.
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Then you got Plato
writing about Atlantis,
00:23:27.20\00:23:30.34
where you've got
these super people.
00:23:30.37\00:23:32.04
Well, before the flood,
they were bigger, stronger,
00:23:32.07\00:23:33.84
they live longer, they had
probably more they could do.
00:23:33.88\00:23:37.05
They lived in a paradise,
but--and they were once noble
00:23:37.08\00:23:40.48
and moral people, as Adam and
Eve and the children of Seth.
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But when they began
to intermarry with Cain,
00:23:45.52\00:23:47.29
the whole world became corrupt.
00:23:47.32\00:23:49.62
This is similar to
the story of Plato.
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And the gods became
angry because the people
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were morally bankrupt.
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And as a punishment,
there was a great cataclysm
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and they were
swallowed up in the ocean.
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You get your flood story there.
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One of the more interesting
ancient myths that sounds
00:24:03.91\00:24:06.31
very biblical is
the Hawaiian's version,
00:24:06.34\00:24:08.71
it stayed pretty
close to the true.
00:24:08.74\00:24:10.98
There was this man
named Nui instead of Noah,
00:24:11.01\00:24:14.78
who built an ark,
he built a big boat,
00:24:14.82\00:24:17.82
and he escaped the great flood.
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And he landed his vessel on top
of Mauna Kea on the Big Island.
00:24:20.32\00:24:24.73
Nui mistakenly
thought that he had--
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was on the moon and
he made sacrifices to it.
00:24:27.00\00:24:29.23
Kane the creator god descended
on the earth in a rainbow
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and explained Nui's mistake.
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So, you got the sacrifice,
the rainbow, the boat,
00:24:36.17\00:24:39.57
the flood, the name.
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Jean: The mountain.
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Doug: And the mountain, yeah.
00:24:42.71\00:24:44.05
It's all very
interesting that many of these--
00:24:44.08\00:24:46.08
and the American Indians, I
used to work on the reservation,
00:24:46.11\00:24:48.55
very similar story
about the gods were angry
00:24:48.58\00:24:51.45
with the wickedness of man,
washed the world with the flood,
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and so--and then,
even the Mesopotamians,
00:24:53.52\00:24:57.63
they had the epic of
Gilgamesh, their version of it.
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But you know, it's
a lot more bizarre,
00:25:01.56\00:25:05.80
less believable
than the Bible version.
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Jean: All right, so we do find
a number of stories in different
00:25:08.30\00:25:10.91
cultures, myths, but the more
accurate or the most accurate
00:25:10.94\00:25:14.51
description of what
happened is found in Genesis.
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Doug: Yeah.
00:25:17.85\00:25:19.28
Jean: It is inspired counsel.
00:25:19.31\00:25:20.68
It is clear, it is biblical,
it makes sense, it fits in.
00:25:20.72\00:25:23.05
A question that's
coming, Pastor Doug,
00:25:23.08\00:25:25.39
is does the Bible mention
anything about dinosaurs?
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And if so, where?
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Doug: Well, the closest
thing I think we can get to is,
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you've got--well, there's
verses about the behemoth.
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And then you've
got the leviathan.
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And leviathan seems
like a great dragon.
00:25:39.63\00:25:42.27
And some believe it's
a metaphor for the devil.
00:25:42.30\00:25:44.97
I'm inclined to
believe that in Job,
00:25:45.01\00:25:46.78
I think leviathan's a
metaphor for the devil.
00:25:46.81\00:25:48.74
But they probably did recognize
they were great dragons.
00:25:48.78\00:25:52.41
Something else
that's interesting,
00:25:52.45\00:25:53.98
Pastor Ross, is we know from
the fossil record there were
00:25:54.02\00:25:56.85
some of these
enormous flying reptiles.
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And one of them, and I
can't remember the name of this,
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a pterodactyl or paradactyl, but
it was as big as a Cessna 182.
00:26:02.62\00:26:08.66
It was huge, I
mean its wingspan.
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And it was a flying dragon.
00:26:10.87\00:26:13.00
They had like tails and all
in-- around the world in all
00:26:13.03\00:26:17.97
the cultures, they've got these
histories of flying dragons.
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And so, it's probably 'cause
some of the people did live
00:26:21.54\00:26:25.01
contemporaneously
with flying reptiles.
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Jean: You know, we do have
a verse that you mention here
00:26:29.75\00:26:31.72
about behemoth,
and I found it in Job,
00:26:31.75\00:26:33.76
Job chapter 40, verse 15.
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It says, "Look now at behemoth,
which I made along with you.
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He eats grass like an ox.
00:26:39.23\00:26:41.46
See now his
strength is in his hips
00:26:41.50\00:26:43.13
and his power is
his stomach muscles."
00:26:43.16\00:26:45.53
Verse 17 is
interesting, it says,
00:26:45.57\00:26:47.60
"He moves his tail like a cedar.
00:26:47.64\00:26:49.90
The sinew of his
thighs are tightly knit,
00:26:49.94\00:26:52.77
his bones are
like beams of bronze."
00:26:52.81\00:26:55.51
He talks about how that he
lives amongst the reeds down
00:26:55.54\00:27:00.72
by the marshy area.
00:27:00.75\00:27:02.62
Here we have a description
of this massive animal,
00:27:02.65\00:27:05.75
some might think, well,
maybe this is a description
00:27:05.79\00:27:08.42
of an elephant.
00:27:08.46\00:27:09.96
But of course, the
elephant doesn't have a tale
00:27:09.99\00:27:12.03
like a cedar.
00:27:12.06\00:27:13.40
Doug: This sounds like a
brontosaurus or something
00:27:13.43\00:27:15.20
that would--
vegetarian in the swamp.
00:27:15.23\00:27:17.13
Jean: That's right.
00:27:17.17\00:27:18.87
So, it is interesting,
we do have that reference
00:27:18.90\00:27:20.30
in Job chapter 40, verse 15.
00:27:20.34\00:27:22.24
And as we mentioned
before, Job's probably one
00:27:22.27\00:27:24.17
of the oldest
books written by Moses,
00:27:24.21\00:27:26.68
but the story took place a
long time even before Moses.
00:27:26.71\00:27:30.91
Doug: And we got to
keep in mind that Job,
00:27:30.95\00:27:34.02
he may have lived at the
time when Shem was still alive,
00:27:34.05\00:27:36.62
who had lived before the flood.
00:27:36.65\00:27:38.65
And so, or at least
one generation away,
00:27:38.69\00:27:40.59
they had firsthand
accounts of what some of these
00:27:40.62\00:27:42.76
great prehistoric
creatures looked like.
00:27:42.79\00:27:45.19
Jean: Now, the next section
in the lesson talks about
00:27:45.23\00:27:47.30
Genesis versus paganism.
00:27:47.36\00:27:49.50
And it is interesting in
Genesis chapter 1, verse 14,
00:27:49.53\00:27:52.73
where it talks about God
creating the sun and the moon.
00:27:52.77\00:27:55.07
It doesn't specifically
say the sun and the moon.
00:27:55.10\00:27:58.44
Could there be
a reason for that?
00:27:58.47\00:28:00.51
Was that something that was
worshipped by the Egyptians?
00:28:00.54\00:28:03.58
Doug: Well, that's
interesting, yeah, absolutely.
00:28:03.61\00:28:06.18
It tells us that God
made the lights in the heaven,
00:28:06.21\00:28:09.15
a greater light
and a lesser light.
00:28:09.18\00:28:11.19
And God was very clear, He said,
"When you're tempted to look
00:28:11.22\00:28:15.36
to the sun and the moon and
say, 'You are our gods,'" that
00:28:15.39\00:28:20.56
that would be a sin.
00:28:20.60\00:28:23.16
Matter of fact, even Job
said that it would be a sin
00:28:23.20\00:28:26.47
to look to the celestial
elements and pray to them.
00:28:26.50\00:28:30.41
And then he goes on to say that
if I should kiss my own hand
00:28:30.44\00:28:34.41
and worship myself, we should
be worshipping God and not--
00:28:34.44\00:28:37.88
it's worshipping the
creation instead of the Creator
00:28:37.91\00:28:41.52
is idolatry.
00:28:41.55\00:28:43.18
And so, God avoids that
in Genesis deliberately.
00:28:43.22\00:28:46.15
Jean: And then we also
have accounts given in Genesis,
00:28:46.19\00:28:48.69
Genesis chapter
2, verse 7, it says,
00:28:48.72\00:28:50.53
"God formed man out of the dust
of the ground," 'cause breathed
00:28:50.56\00:28:53.80
into him the breath of
life, man became a living being.
00:28:53.83\00:28:56.13
It's interesting when
you look at the elements that
00:28:56.16\00:28:59.00
going to a human
body, it's the same elements
00:28:59.03\00:29:02.20
that we find in the earth.
00:29:02.24\00:29:04.31
Doug: Yeah, it's kind
of humbling to consider
00:29:04.34\00:29:07.21
that if you boil us down
to our chemical components,
00:29:07.24\00:29:12.08
we're not worth much
more than a bag of fertilizer
00:29:12.11\00:29:14.88
because that's what we
all turn into when we die.
00:29:14.92\00:29:17.72
And you get a little bit of
water and salt and potassium
00:29:17.75\00:29:21.16
and just earth.
00:29:21.19\00:29:23.69
And so, it's
really a humble beginning.
00:29:23.73\00:29:28.23
Jean: Now, Billy's asking
a question that's come in,
00:29:28.26\00:29:30.03
he says, "You
know, it seems as though
00:29:30.07\00:29:32.27
the Bible supports slavery."
00:29:32.30\00:29:33.97
He says he has a hard time
answering this question when
00:29:34.00\00:29:37.01
people challenge him about the
trustworthiness of the Bible.
00:29:37.04\00:29:40.88
"Does the Bible support slavery?
00:29:40.91\00:29:43.18
And if so, how do
we explain that today?"
00:29:43.21\00:29:46.11
Doug: If you want to know
what God's original plan is,
00:29:46.15\00:29:48.98
you look at the garden of Eden.
00:29:49.02\00:29:50.42
God did not have
slavery in the garden of Eden.
00:29:50.45\00:29:52.69
Slavery, like divorce
and like death of animals,
00:29:52.72\00:29:56.06
all came as a result of sin.
00:29:56.09\00:29:58.13
These were never part
of God's perfect plan.
00:29:58.16\00:30:00.80
And it is true God made
laws to protect the slaves.
00:30:00.83\00:30:06.03
God made laws
to protect a family
00:30:06.07\00:30:09.60
where there were multiple wives.
00:30:09.64\00:30:11.54
It's not
because it was His plan,
00:30:11.57\00:30:12.94
it's because men were
often all killed off in battle,
00:30:12.97\00:30:15.34
and the only way a woman could
get married and have children is
00:30:15.38\00:30:18.01
if they had polygamy.
00:30:18.05\00:30:19.91
And God had laws about
if you're going to eat meat,
00:30:19.95\00:30:23.12
eat the clean meat.
00:30:23.15\00:30:24.45
It was never God's plan for man
to kill animals and eat them.
00:30:24.49\00:30:27.12
So, he made these laws because
of the hardness of our heart.
00:30:27.16\00:30:30.13
But clearly it's not
God's plan for one person
00:30:30.16\00:30:34.30
to own another person.
00:30:34.30\00:30:36.00
Jean: And of course, we
see examples of that even
00:30:36.03\00:30:37.50
in the New Testament, where
Jesus mentioned it's because
00:30:37.53\00:30:40.54
of the hardness of your hearts
that God allowed these things.
00:30:40.57\00:30:43.14
And of course, if you
look at the rules given in
00:30:43.17\00:30:45.64
the Old Testament with reference
to somebody that owns a slave,
00:30:45.67\00:30:48.51
there were opportunities for the
slave to go free if he chooses,
00:30:48.54\00:30:52.18
depending upon where he's from.
00:30:52.21\00:30:53.85
And there was certain
rules as to how you were
00:30:53.88\00:30:55.45
to treat the slaves.
00:30:55.48\00:30:56.79
So, it was quite
different than the pagan nations
00:30:56.82\00:30:59.39
that were
surrounding Israel at the time.
00:30:59.42\00:31:01.12
Doug: Yeah, absolutely.
00:31:01.16\00:31:02.46
And part of the
Sabbath command, you needed
00:31:02.49\00:31:04.26
to let your slave rest.
00:31:04.29\00:31:05.69
Jean: Right,
even on the Sabbath.
00:31:05.73\00:31:07.10
Well, that brings us to
the subject of marriage then.
00:31:07.13\00:31:10.23
Of course, we read in
Genesis chapter 2, verse 18,
00:31:10.27\00:31:12.77
talks about--it says,
"God said it is not good
00:31:12.80\00:31:15.60
that man should be alone."
00:31:15.64\00:31:17.01
It's verse 18, "I'll make
a helper comparable to him."
00:31:17.04\00:31:19.27
When you talk about
marriage, Pastor Doug,
00:31:19.31\00:31:21.58
other than the biblical
account that we find in Genesis,
00:31:21.61\00:31:24.25
how does evolution support the
idea of why there is male and
00:31:24.28\00:31:30.62
female, not just men and woman,
but you look at all animal life
00:31:30.65\00:31:35.12
and even plant life,
you've got male and female.
00:31:35.16\00:31:38.93
Doug: You know, there
are certain conundrums that
00:31:38.96\00:31:41.56
evolutionists, honest ones, will
admit that they cannot solve.
00:31:41.60\00:31:45.93
They cannot find a scenario
in the scheme of evolution that
00:31:45.97\00:31:50.24
would necessitate the evolution,
that would explain how creatures
00:31:50.27\00:31:56.78
would evolve with two separate
genders that could not procreate
00:31:56.81\00:32:04.25
without an act of
cooperation and affection.
00:32:04.29\00:32:07.52
And then they say, "Well,
but it's much more beneficial
00:32:07.56\00:32:09.69
for the mixture
of genes to do this."
00:32:09.72\00:32:12.23
You don't need separate genders.
00:32:12.26\00:32:14.23
Why not have like, you
know, snails or I forget
00:32:14.30\00:32:18.10
what they call it
where you got one gender,
00:32:18.13\00:32:19.63
it could be either one.
00:32:19.67\00:32:21.00
Every snail is hermaphroditic,
or whatever they call it.
00:32:21.04\00:32:24.41
Yeah, earthworm, why
aren't all creatures like that?
00:32:24.44\00:32:26.78
They could still
exchange their genes.
00:32:26.81\00:32:28.74
But you know, it's a mystery.
00:32:28.78\00:32:31.61
There's so many mysteries in
nature when you think about it.
00:32:31.65\00:32:35.08
And what a mystery
that, I mean, woman, you know,
00:32:35.12\00:32:40.19
God made His creation
in order of complexity.
00:32:40.22\00:32:43.26
First He makes
the basic elements,
00:32:43.29\00:32:45.06
you know, and the
water and the land,
00:32:45.09\00:32:46.80
and then the vegetation, and
then the more complex animals.
00:32:46.83\00:32:49.20
You've got the birds and
the fish, and then He makes man.
00:32:49.23\00:32:52.77
And the most complex
of all, He makes woman
00:32:52.80\00:32:54.97
as the final part of creation.
00:32:55.00\00:32:56.47
And not too many
will disagree with that,
00:32:56.50\00:32:58.94
the complexity of woman.
00:32:58.97\00:33:01.31
But to think about a woman's
body has got several processes
00:33:01.34\00:33:06.41
that a man's body
just does not have.
00:33:06.45\00:33:08.85
You know, men do not
lactate, we do not ovulate,
00:33:08.88\00:33:10.95
we do not
gestate and give birth.
00:33:10.99\00:33:15.06
And it is such a
miracle that these distinctions
00:33:15.09\00:33:18.79
in the body are so unique.
00:33:18.83\00:33:22.30
And God explains that
they were made to be separate,
00:33:22.33\00:33:25.63
unique creatures, and they are
that from birth in the garden
00:33:25.67\00:33:29.17
of Eden, that was His plan.
00:33:29.20\00:33:30.87
Jean: Now, somebody's asking
a question about this, she says,
00:33:30.91\00:33:33.68
"If both marriage and
the Sabbath were created
00:33:33.71\00:33:36.41
before sin, why is it
in Matthew 22, verse 30,
00:33:36.44\00:33:39.98
Jesus seems to indicate
that there won't be marriage
00:33:40.02\00:33:42.42
in heaven?"
00:33:42.45\00:33:44.35
Doug: Well, God tells us that--
00:33:44.39\00:33:45.92
Well, we are
ultimately married to the Lord.
00:33:45.95\00:33:47.72
In Genesis, the Bible ends with
our coming to a marriage supper.
00:33:47.76\00:33:50.29
It's interesting,
Jesus's ministry begins
00:33:50.33\00:33:52.53
with first miracle
at a marriage feast.
00:33:52.56\00:33:54.93
Then you get to
Revelation and we're all invited
00:33:54.96\00:33:57.27
to the marriage
supper of the Lamb.
00:33:57.30\00:33:59.03
So, we are married to the Lord.
00:33:59.07\00:34:01.10
And the Bible says,
"Husbands, love your wife
00:34:01.14\00:34:03.14
as Christ loves the church."
00:34:03.17\00:34:04.81
But one of the
principle purposes for marriage,
00:34:04.84\00:34:07.54
God said, "Go
forth, be fruitful."
00:34:07.58\00:34:09.71
And King James says replenish.
00:34:09.74\00:34:12.21
The more accurate
word is fill the earth.
00:34:12.25\00:34:15.08
Replenish leaves people with
the idea that it was filled once
00:34:15.12\00:34:17.65
and it has to be refilled.
00:34:17.69\00:34:20.02
And so, the earth is going to
be populated with the redeemed.
00:34:20.06\00:34:23.09
And God did not intend
for people to indefinitely
00:34:23.12\00:34:27.40
through eternity continue to.
00:34:27.40\00:34:29.20
You'd have a big old family.
00:34:29.23\00:34:31.73
And this is why the Mormons,
they believe there's marriage
00:34:31.77\00:34:33.44
in heaven, and that you're going
to continue needing to make
00:34:33.47\00:34:35.67
new worlds to house
all the kids that you have.
00:34:35.70\00:34:39.54
But some people
think, "I don't know,
00:34:39.57\00:34:42.04
how am I going to be happy in
heaven if there's no marriage?
00:34:42.08\00:34:44.65
Or does that mean that
my wife and I get to heaven
00:34:44.68\00:34:47.28
and we get our
divorce papers from God?"
00:34:47.32\00:34:49.78
You want to live with
your spouse through eternity
00:34:49.82\00:34:52.42
and you love each other,
you'll be free to do that.
00:34:52.45\00:34:54.79
Jean: Well, we
know that in heaven,
00:34:54.82\00:34:56.12
the Bible says we shall
know, even as we are now known,
00:34:56.16\00:34:59.03
so there'll still
be family relations.
00:34:59.06\00:35:01.46
And like you said, if you
spend your whole life bonding
00:35:01.50\00:35:04.43
with someone here on this earth
and you're married, you know,
00:35:04.47\00:35:08.64
wouldn't you be able
to enjoy and both saved,
00:35:08.67\00:35:11.01
wouldn't you be able to
enjoy heaven and eternity
00:35:11.04\00:35:13.58
with your spouse?
00:35:13.61\00:35:15.28
Doug: Yeah, absolutely.
00:35:15.31\00:35:16.61
I'm going to enjoy
going around heaven with Karen
00:35:16.64\00:35:18.45
and looking things over.
00:35:18.48\00:35:20.22
But one of the words in
Jesus's statement that people
00:35:20.25\00:35:22.62
misunderstand, it's He says,
"There will be no marriage."
00:35:22.65\00:35:26.35
The word "marriage"
there, it's the act,
00:35:26.39\00:35:27.89
the verb of marrying.
00:35:27.92\00:35:29.22
There'll be no new marriages.
00:35:29.26\00:35:31.56
Now, when David gets to heaven,
I don't know who he'll be
00:35:31.59\00:35:33.86
married to, or
Solomon even more confusing,
00:35:33.90\00:35:36.36
but Adam will probably
still be married to Eve.
00:35:36.40\00:35:39.90
Jean: Right.
00:35:39.93\00:35:41.34
Well, that brings our
next section in our lesson,
00:35:41.37\00:35:42.97
it's talking
about creation in time.
00:35:43.00\00:35:44.67
Now, this is one of
the things that people look
00:35:44.71\00:35:47.18
at Bible-believing
Christians and say,
00:35:47.21\00:35:49.51
"How can you believe that the
earth is only 6,000 years old?
00:35:49.54\00:35:54.38
Where do we find 6,000
year old earth in the Bible?
00:35:54.42\00:35:58.65
How do we know that the
Bible speaks of the earth
00:35:58.69\00:36:00.72
being about 6,000 years?"
00:36:00.76\00:36:02.39
Doug: Well, when you talk
about the earth being 6,000
00:36:02.42\00:36:04.76
years old, it may have been
floating around in our solar
00:36:04.79\00:36:08.90
system or our corner of
the Milky Way for a long time
00:36:08.93\00:36:13.47
in its chaotic
void shape, you know?
00:36:13.50\00:36:16.30
That, I think that's unclear.
00:36:16.34\00:36:18.27
It is clear that He organized
things in a special way.
00:36:18.31\00:36:21.01
And when God says on the
fourth day He made the stars
00:36:21.04\00:36:23.95
and the greater
lights and the lesser lights,
00:36:23.98\00:36:25.98
that may be the greater
lights and lesser lights of our
00:36:26.01\00:36:29.55
Milky Way galaxy, which would be
about 200 billion blazing suns.
00:36:29.58\00:36:33.86
Doesn't mean that
all the flickering lights
00:36:33.89\00:36:36.42
that you see out
there, many of them galaxies,
00:36:36.46\00:36:38.56
were created six
days-- 6,000 years ago.
00:36:38.59\00:36:42.33
But when you start looking
at the dates that God gives in
00:36:42.36\00:36:44.73
the Bible, and we'll get in our
next section more to chronology,
00:36:44.77\00:36:48.27
but the dates that
are given in the Bible,
00:36:48.30\00:36:50.07
they are six literal days,
24 hours, successive periods.
00:36:50.11\00:36:53.71
And then it tells
us the ages of Adam,
00:36:53.74\00:36:57.91
and Seth, and
Enos, on through Enoch,
00:36:57.95\00:37:01.85
through Noah, and Abraham.
00:37:01.88\00:37:03.65
And you've got a chronology.
00:37:03.69\00:37:05.02
And you can do some rough
math, and there's some gaps here
00:37:05.05\00:37:08.09
and there like
with the sons of Noah,
00:37:08.12\00:37:10.69
doesn't say how old they were.
00:37:10.73\00:37:13.29
Were all they triplets?
00:37:13.33\00:37:14.60
It just kind of gives--you
know, I think it says he lived
00:37:14.63\00:37:16.03
600 years, and that's
Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
00:37:16.06\00:37:19.13
Well, was it all that year?
00:37:19.17\00:37:21.30
Did he--I mean, so there's
some gaps here and there,
00:37:21.34\00:37:24.84
but they're not big ones.
00:37:24.87\00:37:26.57
And so, when you just
add up the chronology,
00:37:26.61\00:37:29.98
we've got an age for the earth,
or at least for the time of Adam
00:37:30.01\00:37:33.82
that goes back
about 6,000 years.
00:37:33.85\00:37:36.58
Jean: You know, maybe I
want to just add to that,
00:37:36.62\00:37:37.92
there are people that
are trying to calculate
00:37:37.95\00:37:40.06
the exact age of the earth.
00:37:40.09\00:37:41.99
And one of the things you got to
bear in mind is when you start
00:37:42.02\00:37:44.93
doing that, adding up
all the different ages
00:37:44.96\00:37:47.03
of the patriarchs, the
Bible doesn't tell you the year
00:37:47.03\00:37:49.43
and the month or even the
day that they had their son.
00:37:49.46\00:37:54.17
It'll say in the 60th year or so
and so's life, he had his son.
00:37:54.20\00:37:58.94
Well, you got 12 months there,
you don't have the beginning
00:37:58.97\00:38:01.54
of that 60th year or
maybe it's near the end.
00:38:01.58\00:38:03.11
So, there is an
area that we don't know.
00:38:03.14\00:38:05.95
And if you add
up all those bits,
00:38:05.98\00:38:07.62
we don't know what that is.
00:38:07.65\00:38:09.05
Roughly 6,000 years, but we
can't nail down a specific day
00:38:09.08\00:38:12.82
and say, "All right, today,
the earth is 6,000 years old."
00:38:12.85\00:38:15.46
Doug: That's important this
day and age 'cause some people
00:38:15.49\00:38:16.96
are trying to use that to pick
a date for the Second Coming.
00:38:16.99\00:38:19.63
Jean: Right.
00:38:19.66\00:38:21.43
Doug: And you need to
be careful about that.
00:38:21.46\00:38:23.77
I was going to say
something else now.
00:38:23.80\00:38:25.63
Jean: Well, let me ask you this,
00:38:25.67\00:38:27.00
you mentioned
about creating time,
00:38:27.04\00:38:28.44
or at least seemingly time.
00:38:28.47\00:38:30.84
When God created the
garden of Eden and He created
00:38:30.87\00:38:33.71
the tree of life,
one of the questions is,
00:38:33.74\00:38:35.74
did He create tiny little
shrubs that it's still growing
00:38:35.78\00:38:38.08
to giant trees, or
were these full-grown trees?
00:38:38.11\00:38:41.72
When He made the
animals, were they tiny little,
00:38:41.75\00:38:44.25
you know, bear cubs, or
did He make big grizzly bears?
00:38:44.29\00:38:47.46
Doug: Yeah, that was
really what I was going to say
00:38:47.49\00:38:49.82
and I forgot about, is that
when we're talking about the age
00:38:49.86\00:38:52.09
of the earth, some people say,
"Well, when they date the rocks,
00:38:52.13\00:38:54.83
they come out to
billions of years."
00:38:54.86\00:38:56.50
And they say, "When they date
the stars," we know the speed
00:38:56.53\00:38:59.20
of light is a constant, 186,000
miles per second roughly.
00:38:59.23\00:39:03.67
And they say, "These calculus
tells us these galaxies and suns
00:39:03.71\00:39:06.88
are billions of
miles of lightyears away.
00:39:06.91\00:39:11.35
That means that they could never
have been created 6,000 years
00:39:11.38\00:39:15.12
ago or their
light would never have--
00:39:15.15\00:39:17.12
wouldn't even be
reaching us yet."
00:39:17.15\00:39:18.75
Well, we forget that
the belly button factor.
00:39:18.79\00:39:21.89
And what I mean by that
is that when God made Adam,
00:39:21.92\00:39:25.06
did he have a belly button?
00:39:25.09\00:39:27.23
Why would he need one?
God made Adam full-grown.
00:39:27.23\00:39:30.63
He made trees.
00:39:30.67\00:39:32.27
When you cut down a
tree in the garden of Eden,
00:39:32.30\00:39:33.94
did it have rings in it?
00:39:33.97\00:39:35.40
There are rings
typically, dendrochronology,
00:39:35.44\00:39:37.47
you use it for
dating the-- you know,
00:39:37.51\00:39:39.17
one ring roughly
per year, a season.
00:39:39.21\00:39:41.08
Well, seasons were
different in the garden of Eden,
00:39:41.11\00:39:43.61
but they probably had rings.
00:39:43.65\00:39:45.31
And so, man was made from the
factory with prewired knowledge.
00:39:45.35\00:39:50.49
Adam knew how to walk and
talk, bears were full grown.
00:39:50.52\00:39:52.42
The garden of Eden was not
full of puppies and kitties.
00:39:52.45\00:39:56.09
They all came later.
00:39:56.12\00:39:58.43
And they were
full-grown creatures.
00:39:58.46\00:40:00.36
God made the world with
maybe some built-in age.
00:40:00.40\00:40:02.63
He made the world with
the light already en route
00:40:02.66\00:40:06.23
so we'd enjoy it.
00:40:06.27\00:40:08.10
And so, people forget that
God can create, He's powerful.
00:40:08.14\00:40:11.11
He can create things with
some evidence of time built in.
00:40:11.14\00:40:14.11
Jean: And I think
that's important to remember,
00:40:14.14\00:40:16.81
God created Adam
and Eve with the ability
00:40:16.85\00:40:18.58
to communicate right away.
00:40:18.61\00:40:20.45
They didn't have
to learn the language.
00:40:20.48\00:40:22.05
And God created everything they
needed to have a wonderful life,
00:40:22.08\00:40:25.42
which required, like you
say, creating certain things
00:40:25.45\00:40:28.62
more advanced in time.
00:40:28.66\00:40:30.63
A little baby's born
now, they can't speak,
00:40:30.66\00:40:33.46
they don't understand.
00:40:33.50\00:40:34.76
So, Adam and Eve were
created, I don't know,
00:40:34.83\00:40:36.46
the perfect age,
whatever that might be.
00:40:36.50\00:40:38.40
Doug: Sixty-three.
00:40:38.43\00:40:39.97
Jean: Yeah,
whatever that age might be.
00:40:40.00\00:40:43.00
All right, so we have a question
that's coming from Benjamin,
00:40:43.04\00:40:45.11
he's 11 years old.
00:40:45.14\00:40:46.44
It's a good question, he says,
00:40:46.47\00:40:47.78
"Joseph, you know,
kept God's commandments,
00:40:47.81\00:40:49.91
but when Joseph was in Egypt,
how did he keep the Sabbath?"
00:40:49.94\00:40:54.45
We're not even sure if he
did keep the Sabbath in Egypt.
00:40:54.48\00:40:56.52
At least, you know,
that's what Benjamin's asking.
00:40:56.55\00:40:59.55
Doug: Well, you
know, it seems that Joseph
00:40:59.59\00:41:01.49
was aware of the commandments.
00:41:01.52\00:41:03.43
He certainly was not
willing to break the commandment
00:41:03.46\00:41:05.33
about idolatry.
00:41:05.36\00:41:06.80
Even the ancient Egyptians we
believe did have a day of rest.
00:41:06.83\00:41:10.10
Whether they kept the day of
the sun, the first day, some--
00:41:10.13\00:41:12.50
I think in Hislop's
book on Babylon, it says,
00:41:12.53\00:41:15.77
"The Babylonians got Sunday
worship from the Egyptians.
00:41:15.80\00:41:19.21
I don't know that.
00:41:19.24\00:41:20.88
So, they still believed
in giving their servants
00:41:20.91\00:41:24.98
a day of rest.
00:41:25.01\00:41:26.55
And I don't find it hard
to believe that if Joseph was
00:41:26.58\00:41:30.85
a faithful servant if he said,
"Can I please have this day
00:41:30.89\00:41:33.29
to worship my God?"
00:41:33.32\00:41:34.62
they may have honored that.
00:41:34.66\00:41:35.96
We don't know, so let's
not assume that he disobeyed.
00:41:35.99\00:41:38.16
Jean: Right.
00:41:38.19\00:41:39.49
And you know, if you look at
the account given in Genesis,
00:41:39.53\00:41:41.26
at least during the time
that he was with Potiphar
00:41:41.30\00:41:43.30
before the situation
occurred with Potiphar's wife,
00:41:43.33\00:41:45.50
he was a very trusted servant,
even to the point where Potiphar
00:41:45.53\00:41:49.17
didn't know how much he had.
00:41:49.20\00:41:51.37
Everything was
taken care of by Joseph.
00:41:51.41\00:41:53.31
So, I'm sure Potiphar recognized
Joseph as being faithful.
00:41:53.34\00:41:57.65
And if Joseph had asked,
"I'd like to take this day off,"
00:41:57.68\00:42:00.78
quite possible he received that.
00:42:00.82\00:42:02.95
Okay, well, another reason why
we have chronology in the Bible,
00:42:02.98\00:42:05.99
and this is probably one of
the important reasons not only
00:42:06.02\00:42:08.89
to give us time, but it also
guides us in the fulfillment
00:42:08.92\00:42:13.16
of a promise of a Messiah,
of a Savior that would come.
00:42:13.19\00:42:17.03
And I think that's a big
part of what chronology is,
00:42:17.07\00:42:19.90
especially if you start
going into the New Testament,
00:42:19.93\00:42:21.90
and you begin to see
some of the chronology found
00:42:21.94\00:42:24.24
in Matthew and
in Luke chapter 3.
00:42:24.27\00:42:26.44
Doug: Yeah, I remember
when I first was reading
00:42:26.47\00:42:28.68
Luke chapter 3, and it started
with a chronology of Jesus.
00:42:28.71\00:42:32.05
Now in Luke, Luke is tracing
in the chronology of Jesus
00:42:32.08\00:42:35.55
through Mary's father-in-law.
00:42:35.58\00:42:39.82
I should say Joseph's
father-in-law through Mary.
00:42:39.85\00:42:42.92
Matthew traces it
through Joseph's family.
00:42:42.96\00:42:46.06
And Luke being a physician, he
knew that the genetic connection
00:42:46.09\00:42:53.60
with Jesus was
through Mary, and so he wanted
00:42:53.64\00:42:56.14
to trace it that way.
00:42:56.17\00:42:57.64
But it goes all the way
from Jesus back to Adam,
00:42:57.67\00:43:01.61
and it is so
moving when it says Jesus,
00:43:01.64\00:43:04.01
and this is Luke 3:23, "Jesus
Himself began His ministry being
00:43:04.05\00:43:07.12
about 30 years of age, being as
was supposed the son of Joseph,
00:43:07.15\00:43:10.82
the son of Heli,
the son of Matthat,
00:43:10.85\00:43:12.62
the son of Levi,
the son of Melchi,
00:43:12.65\00:43:14.82
the son of Janna,
the son of Joseph,
00:43:14.86\00:43:16.96
the son of
Mattathiah, the son of Amos,
00:43:16.99\00:43:19.93
the son of
Nahum, the son of Esli,
00:43:19.96\00:43:21.53
the son of
Naggai, the son of Maath,
00:43:21.56\00:43:24.43
the son of
Mattathiah, the son of Semei,
00:43:24.47\00:43:27.07
the son of
Joseph, the son of Judah."
00:43:27.10\00:43:28.94
And I'm going to verse
38 now, "The son of Enos,
00:43:28.97\00:43:32.31
the son of
Seth, the son of Adam,
00:43:32.34\00:43:33.98
the son of God."
00:43:34.01\00:43:35.91
Now, so one of the important
things about the genealogy is
00:43:35.94\00:43:38.41
it's connecting
Jesus all the way with God.
00:43:38.45\00:43:42.68
It connects us with God.
00:43:42.72\00:43:44.52
We did not evolve from
ancestors that were dragging
00:43:44.55\00:43:47.92
their knuckles
around on the ground.
00:43:47.96\00:43:50.03
We're connected
directly with God.
00:43:50.06\00:43:51.96
Something else, and
even the time that we keep,
00:43:51.99\00:43:54.46
Pastor Ross, you know, we
can look up in the stars and
00:43:54.46\00:43:58.03
we can see there's astronomical
reasons for all of the
00:43:58.07\00:44:01.80
ancient civilizations to have
a calendar with roughly 365,
00:44:01.84\00:44:06.68
360 days in the year
'cause that's how long it takes
00:44:06.71\00:44:09.68
for the earth to go around
the sun, cycle of the seasons.
00:44:09.71\00:44:12.71
We can see why they would
have a month with approximately
00:44:12.75\00:44:15.72
27 days, 30 days.
00:44:15.75\00:44:19.12
It's a lunar cycle
dictates the months,
00:44:19.15\00:44:21.89
that's where we get the
word "month," from moon.
00:44:21.92\00:44:24.33
And we can see a day
would have 24 hours because
00:44:24.36\00:44:27.13
that's how long
it takes to rotate.
00:44:27.13\00:44:28.96
But the whole world
keeps a seven day week.
00:44:29.00\00:44:32.00
Where in the sun,
moon, and stars do you get
00:44:32.03\00:44:33.94
a seven day week?
00:44:33.97\00:44:35.47
Only place you can trace the
seven day week is to the Bible.
00:44:35.50\00:44:38.51
And yet, the whole world
recognizes the seven day week.
00:44:38.54\00:44:41.11
Jean: And I think even
in some of the languages
00:44:41.14\00:44:42.44
of the world, there is a
reference to the Sabbath,
00:44:42.48\00:44:46.08
for example, in Spanish,
the seventh day of the week.
00:44:46.11\00:44:48.18
We call it in English
Saturday, but in Spanish Sabado.
00:44:48.22\00:44:51.62
Doug: Russian, Subbota.
00:44:51.65\00:44:53.15
And about 145
languages of the world,
00:44:53.19\00:44:55.52
the word for the seventh
day or Saturday is Sabbath
00:44:55.56\00:44:59.23
because we all sprang
from the same origins.
00:44:59.26\00:45:02.43
Jean: Our last section
that we have in our lesson is,
00:45:02.46\00:45:04.77
"How did Jesus and New Testament
writers feel about the creation
00:45:04.80\00:45:09.34
account that we find in Genesis?
00:45:09.37\00:45:11.34
Did they recognize it
as being trustworthy?"
00:45:11.37\00:45:14.18
Doug: Yeah, there's--and this
is one of the reasons that you
00:45:14.21\00:45:18.11
really can't say, "I believe the
Bible," and not believe biblical
00:45:18.15\00:45:21.12
creation because you have to
continually apologize for the
00:45:21.15\00:45:24.62
New Testament writers that said
that they believed in creation.
00:45:24.65\00:45:29.52
And just a couple of examples.
00:45:29.56\00:45:31.19
First of all, you
can't believe Jesus.
00:45:31.23\00:45:33.16
Jesus says in Matthew
chapter 19, verse 4 and 5,
00:45:33.19\00:45:36.50
"And He answered them and said,
00:45:36.53\00:45:38.27
'Have you not read that He
that made them in the beginning
00:45:38.30\00:45:41.04
made them male and female?'"
00:45:41.07\00:45:43.10
So, He points back,
says that man and woman
00:45:43.14\00:45:45.51
were made in the
image of God, fiat creation.
00:45:45.54\00:45:48.61
"'For this reason, a man will
leave his father and mother,
00:45:48.64\00:45:51.01
be joined his wife,
the two become one flesh.'"
00:45:51.05\00:45:52.98
He's quoting the first
two chapters of Genesis here.
00:45:53.01\00:45:56.75
And then in Luke
chapter 11, verse 51,
00:45:56.79\00:46:01.82
Christ is talking about the
judgement that was going to come
00:46:01.86\00:46:04.03
upon the unbelievers
that were rejecting Jesus.
00:46:04.06\00:46:06.63
And He said, "From the blood of
Abel to the blood of Zechariah,
00:46:06.66\00:46:11.13
who perished between the
altar and the temple, yes,
00:46:11.17\00:46:13.94
I say it shall be
required of this generation."
00:46:13.97\00:46:16.20
And Jesus is
referring back to Cain,
00:46:16.24\00:46:19.37
who killed Abel as
not a fictitious story,
00:46:19.41\00:46:22.71
said it's a real story.
00:46:22.74\00:46:24.45
And the reason He
says it's a real story,
00:46:24.48\00:46:26.25
He said that God has made a
note of it, and the judgement
00:46:26.28\00:46:30.32
for that evil deed is going
to come upon that generation.
00:46:30.35\00:46:33.69
So, why would God bring
judgement for a fairytale
00:46:33.72\00:46:36.26
on a generation?
00:46:36.29\00:46:37.86
He looks upon what
happened to Abel as real.
00:46:37.89\00:46:40.46
Jean: And then you got
Paul, we have it recorded
00:46:40.50\00:46:42.60
in Acts chapter 14, verse
15 where Paul speaks about God
00:46:42.63\00:46:46.50
creating the heavens, the earth,
the sea, and all things in them.
00:46:46.53\00:46:49.27
And actually, he was
speaking to Pagans there,
00:46:49.30\00:46:51.31
and he's talking about God being
the one who created all things.
00:46:51.34\00:46:54.51
And of course, he had the
account Genesis chapter 1.
00:46:54.54\00:46:56.98
Doug: Yeah, and
he's going against--
00:46:57.01\00:46:58.81
Paul knew what
the pagans believed.
00:46:58.85\00:47:00.48
Raised in Tarsus and
he knew they had all kinds
00:47:00.52\00:47:03.69
of bizarre accounts.
00:47:03.72\00:47:05.25
The Pagans were also aware of
the Jewish belief in one God who
00:47:05.29\00:47:08.86
spoke everything into existence,
and so he's not shocking them
00:47:08.89\00:47:12.63
by that statement.
00:47:12.66\00:47:14.03
And you can read
Jude verse 11, Jean.
00:47:14.10\00:47:16.43
Jean: Yes, Jude chapter--
verse 11, Jude 1, it says,
00:47:16.46\00:47:19.10
"Woe to them, for they
have gone after the way
00:47:19.13\00:47:21.20
of Cain and have run greedily in
the error of Balaam for profit,
00:47:21.24\00:47:25.07
and perished in
rebellion of Korah.'"
00:47:25.11\00:47:27.21
So, there we have
Cain, Balaam, Korah,
00:47:27.24\00:47:30.18
these are Old Testament
characters that we read about.
00:47:30.21\00:47:33.38
Doug: Yeah, and of
course, Cain back there
00:47:33.42\00:47:35.72
in the garden of
Eden, chapter 4 of Genesis.
00:47:35.75\00:47:38.25
And then even if you jump
to Revelations chapter 22,
00:47:38.29\00:47:40.79
it tells us, "In the middle
of its street on either side of
00:47:40.82\00:47:44.06
the river was the tree of life
that bore 12 fruits each year,
00:47:44.09\00:47:49.00
each yielding its
fruit every month.
00:47:49.03\00:47:51.90
And the leaves of the tree were
for the healing of the nations."
00:47:51.93\00:47:54.64
By the way, that's similar
to the last chapters of Ezekiel,
00:47:54.67\00:47:58.41
where it says there's this
tree of life or trees of life,
00:47:58.44\00:48:02.34
and their leaves
are for medicine.
00:48:02.38\00:48:04.45
And--but the tree of
life, the truth about that goes
00:48:04.48\00:48:07.68
all the way back
to the garden of Eden.
00:48:07.72\00:48:10.42
And not only in
Revelation chapter 22,
00:48:10.45\00:48:13.02
but I think Revelation 2 also,
he mentions the tree of life.
00:48:13.05\00:48:16.56
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I got out of my truck, walked
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and put cold water on
my face, and then finally
00:50:09.14\00:50:11.61
things subsided.
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A week later, again I
heard this Amazing Facts
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In fact, the meetings were
going to start that very night.
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And again, immediately
I had these same symptoms.
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I thought, "You
know, this isn't my heart.
00:50:23.72\00:50:25.95
I have to go to that meeting."
00:50:25.99\00:50:28.22
And as I was going
down to Sacramento,
00:50:28.26\00:50:29.89
I decided to park and go inside.
00:50:29.92\00:50:33.40
Well, I got in and walked
into the furthermost rear seat
00:50:33.43\00:50:37.97
they had in the pew there.
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And this particular evangelist,
his name was Kim Kjaer.
00:50:40.30\00:50:46.51
It was like taking one
layer off at a time of an onion.
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He laid it out so perfectly
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And I was really motivated,
I couldn't believe it.
00:50:53.72\00:50:56.18
Well, I finished, I
didn't miss a meeting.
00:50:56.22\00:50:58.42
In fact, on the fifth
night, they had an altar call,
00:50:58.45\00:51:01.82
and my knees stood right
up, and I walked forward,
00:51:01.86\00:51:05.23
and I gave my
heart to Jesus Christ.
00:51:05.26\00:51:07.73
I've learned throughout
this whole thing that when you--
00:51:07.76\00:51:11.03
when you leave
the devil's territory,
00:51:11.07\00:51:13.80
he gets pretty active in
causing a lot of problems.
00:51:13.84\00:51:17.74
Well, I had the evangelist come
out and they had prayer with me
00:51:17.77\00:51:22.04
about my business.
00:51:22.08\00:51:23.31
I would find a sick business and
make it well and then market it.
00:51:23.35\00:51:28.48
I finally ended up with a
business that I really enjoyed.
00:51:28.52\00:51:31.55
It was one that was
building equestrian centers.
00:51:31.59\00:51:35.02
And they said to
me, "Steve," he said,
00:51:35.06\00:51:37.09
"you know, if you're going
to really keep the Sabbath,
00:51:37.13\00:51:39.16
you've got to shut
your doors on the Sabbath."
00:51:39.19\00:51:41.56
Well, I did.
00:51:41.60\00:51:43.16
And so, I sold the
business to my brother.
00:51:43.20\00:51:45.40
Took me 22 years to
build that business,
00:51:45.43\00:51:48.60
and he lost it in 33 months.
00:51:48.64\00:51:51.44
My son, who was
my business partner,
00:51:51.47\00:51:53.44
I'd been giving him 10%
of the business every year.
00:51:53.48\00:51:56.78
He thought I'd just
fallen off the bridge.
00:51:56.81\00:51:58.98
My son didn't talk to me
for five and a half years.
00:52:01.15\00:52:04.15
And then a few
other things happened.
00:52:04.19\00:52:06.49
So, I had an ex-employee
living in my guesthouse,
00:52:06.52\00:52:09.09
he kind of
watched after our place.
00:52:09.12\00:52:11.89
And he said, "Steve," he said,
"there's an Allied moving van
00:52:11.93\00:52:15.00
backed up to your
front door in your home."
00:52:15.03\00:52:17.93
I said, "You're kidding."
00:52:17.97\00:52:19.27
I said, "What do you mean?"
00:52:19.30\00:52:20.60
He said, "They're moving
everything out of your house
00:52:20.64\00:52:23.41
into this truck, and your wife
is out there supervising them."
00:52:23.44\00:52:27.71
And when I went home
and opened the front door,
00:52:27.74\00:52:29.61
my voice echoed in that house.
00:52:29.64\00:52:31.48
There wasn't any
furniture left anywhere.
00:52:31.51\00:52:32.98
There was one bed
left in the house.
00:52:33.01\00:52:36.42
I knew my wife was upset because
of my coming to this church,
00:52:36.45\00:52:40.86
but I had no idea that
she would move out like this.
00:52:40.89\00:52:43.89
That was a total shock to me.
00:52:43.93\00:52:46.26
It was some time there I
locked myself in the bedroom
00:52:46.29\00:52:49.00
and I began reading the Bible.
00:52:49.03\00:52:50.87
I spent about a half a year
just every night getting home
00:52:50.90\00:52:54.17
and I would study.
00:52:54.20\00:52:57.37
It allowed me to have a personal
relationship with Jesus Christ.
00:52:57.41\00:53:01.18
Well, to make a
long story short,
00:53:01.21\00:53:03.21
I met Crystal, and
she was a godly woman.
00:53:03.24\00:53:06.68
That was the
Lord's doing, not mine.
00:53:06.72\00:53:09.25
And He was just
there to let me know that,
00:53:09.28\00:53:11.45
"I'm with you all the way.
00:53:11.49\00:53:12.72
Even though you're going to have
some trials and you're going to
00:53:12.75\00:53:14.89
have some hardships, I want you
to know that I'll be with you."
00:53:14.92\00:53:19.06
Because no matter what
I do now, He is my leader.
00:53:19.09\00:53:23.57
He's the leader of my marriage,
He's the leader of everything
00:53:23.60\00:53:26.03
in my life today.
00:53:26.07\00:53:28.04
That one meeting with
the Amazing Facts seminar
00:53:28.07\00:53:30.11
changed my entire life.
00:53:30.14\00:53:32.31
And to this day, I'm
still on fire for God,
00:53:32.34\00:53:35.84
I'm still
witnessing to my neighbors.
00:53:35.88\00:53:37.98
My name is Steve
Johnson, and it's because of you
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that Amazing Facts
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Doug: Have you ever
heard a mouse howl like a wolf?
00:54:01.30\00:54:05.17
Well, what would you expect
would happen when a creature
00:54:05.21\00:54:07.54
changes its destiny from the
hapless prey to mighty predator?
00:54:07.58\00:54:12.81
From the outside,
they look very much like
00:54:12.85\00:54:14.62
just an oversized field mouse.
00:54:14.65\00:54:16.99
Cute brown fur,
white on the underbelly,
00:54:17.02\00:54:19.25
nice little beady eyes.
00:54:19.29\00:54:21.36
But that's where
the similarities stop.
00:54:21.39\00:54:23.32
Grasshopper mice
are very unusual,
00:54:23.36\00:54:25.66
making them the objects of great
interest for animal researchers.
00:54:25.69\00:54:30.27
These furry little creatures
are found in the harsh deserts
00:54:30.30\00:54:33.84
of North America.
00:54:33.87\00:54:35.30
They're very
territorial in nature,
00:54:35.34\00:54:37.04
and they will monopolize
and fend off 25 acres.
00:54:37.07\00:54:40.51
They don't
build their own homes,
00:54:40.54\00:54:42.08
but sort of confiscate
the burrows and the homes
00:54:42.11\00:54:44.18
of other creatures.
00:54:44.21\00:54:46.68
They're not called grasshopper
mice because they hop around,
00:54:46.72\00:54:48.78
but it's because they
eat a lot of grasshoppers.
00:54:48.82\00:54:51.42
In fact, scientists have
discovered grasshopper mice
00:54:51.45\00:54:53.92
are the only mice that
are purely carnivorous.
00:54:53.96\00:54:57.09
They hunt much
like cats or weasels,
00:54:57.13\00:55:00.93
stalking their pray
in a predatory fashion.
00:55:00.96\00:55:03.43
And when they
pounce, they are ferocious,
00:55:03.47\00:55:06.33
sometimes even taking on snakes
and scorpions and centipedes.
00:55:06.37\00:55:11.44
When a grasshopper mouse
gets into a fierce battle
00:55:11.47\00:55:13.94
with a snake or a
scorpion or centipede,
00:55:13.98\00:55:16.04
they may be bit or
stung several times.
00:55:16.08\00:55:18.61
But what is amazing to
researchers is they've noticed
00:55:18.65\00:55:21.55
when they are bitten,
they somehow shake it off
00:55:21.58\00:55:24.95
because they convert the toxin
in the venom to painkiller.
00:55:24.99\00:55:30.03
I think you can understand
why this information would be
00:55:30.06\00:55:32.69
of special interest to
scientists that are trying
00:55:32.73\00:55:35.16
to discover new ways for people
to deal with chronic pain.
00:55:35.20\00:55:40.40
One of the most intriguing
characteristics of these
00:55:40.44\00:55:42.74
little creatures is when they're
defending their territory
00:55:42.77\00:55:45.57
or celebrating a
victory over some adversary,
00:55:45.61\00:55:48.91
they'll throw back
their head and let out
00:55:48.94\00:55:51.21
this earthshaking howl.
00:55:51.25\00:55:54.35
It's a mousy howl, check it out.
00:55:54.38\00:55:57.12
[mouse howling]
00:55:57.15\00:56:02.92
Doug: The grasshopper mouse is
not the only member of creation
00:56:02.96\00:56:05.69
that can survive encounters
with venomous predators.
00:56:05.73\00:56:09.36
In Luke 10:19, it says, "Behold,
I will give you authority
00:56:09.40\00:56:13.13
to trample on
serpents and scorpions and
00:56:13.17\00:56:15.80
over all the power of the enemy.
00:56:15.84\00:56:18.41
Nothing will by
any means hurt you."
00:56:18.44\00:56:21.34
We don't have to be the biggest
and the strongest to defeat
00:56:21.38\00:56:24.25
our enemy and let
out that victory roar.
00:56:24.28\00:56:26.58
When God called
David to be king,
00:56:26.61\00:56:28.32
no human would have
guessed that he had it in him.
00:56:28.35\00:56:30.79
He was young and insignificant.
00:56:30.82\00:56:32.99
From the outside, he looked like
there was no greatness in him.
00:56:33.02\00:56:36.36
But when God
looked at his heart,
00:56:36.39\00:56:38.33
He saw courage,
humility, compassion, and love.
00:56:38.36\00:56:41.33
David wasn't perfect
and he made mistakes,
00:56:41.36\00:56:43.73
but through God's power,
he was able to conquer giants.
00:56:43.77\00:56:47.87
Friend, God does not intend
that you live out the rest of
00:56:47.90\00:56:51.27
your life cowering and trembling
like a little field mouse.
00:56:51.31\00:56:54.91
If God can take the grasshopper
mouse and give him courage
00:56:54.94\00:56:57.35
so that he fights snakes
and scorpions and centipedes,
00:56:57.38\00:57:01.12
if God can put in the heart
of David the courage to fight
00:57:01.15\00:57:04.39
giants like Goliath, then He
can give you that same courage.
00:57:04.42\00:57:08.69
The Scriptures say God has not
given you the spirit of fear,
00:57:08.72\00:57:12.06
but of power,
love, and a sound mind.
00:57:12.09\00:57:15.73
And you can have that peace
in your heart when you invite
00:57:15.76\00:57:18.17
the Prince of
Peace in your heart.
00:57:18.20\00:57:20.04
Why don't you do that right now?
00:57:20.07\00:57:22.10
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