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Lesson 8: Who is the Man of Romans 7?

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00:35 Hello and good morning.
00:36 Welcome to everyone here in the Granite Bay Church
00:38 as well as all those who are watching online
00:40 to yet another edition
00:41 of the Sabbath School Study Hour.
00:43 We're gonna be looking at the quarterly study again here,
00:46 "Salvation by Faith Alone" in the Book of Romans.
00:50 We're gonna be studying the seventh chapter
00:52 as we continue to look at what God is revealing
00:55 in that very powerful gospel book.
00:58 And if you don't have a copy of this particular quarterly,
01:01 just want to invite you to be able to take advantage
01:03 of your local Seventh-day Adventist Church.
01:05 If you haven't visited your local
01:07 Seventh-day Adventist Church and ask for a copy,
01:09 just go in and most of those churches
01:10 will have a copy, a free copy
01:12 that they'll be happy to be able to give to you.
01:14 If you're unable to be able to make that happen,
01:16 that you can also go online and go to amazingfacts.org.
01:20 That's amazingfacts.org.
01:22 You can go into the search bar and just put in there quarterly
01:26 as well as Book of Romans or just Romans
01:29 and you're sure to be able to find that link
01:30 that you'll be able to download
01:32 a free digital copy to be able to study
01:35 before we get together
01:36 as well as during or after for further study
01:39 in this very important book.
01:42 Before we start our singing here today,
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02:18 Well, without further ado
02:19 we're gonna invite our singers out
02:20 as they lead us out in songs of praise before our Lord.
02:24 God bless you.
02:33 We're gonna begin our worship singing this morning
02:35 with number 132
02:37 and because we're coming into the Christmas season,
02:39 we're excited to be able to have a chance
02:41 to sing some Christmas songs
02:43 and to praise the young baby in the manger.
02:47 We're gonna start with 132,
02:48 "Oh come, all ye faithful", all three verses.
02:55 O come, all ye faithful
03:00 Joyful and triumphant
03:04 O come ye
03:06 O come ye to Bethlehem!
03:13 Come and behold Him
03:18 Born the King of angels!
03:22 O come, let us adore Him
03:27 O come, let us adore Him
03:31 O come, let us adore Him
03:36 Christ the Lord!
03:41 Sing, choirs of angels
03:45 Sing in exultation
03:49 O sing
03:51 All ye citizens of heaven above!
03:58 Glory to God
04:02 All glory in the highest!
04:07 O, come, let us adore Him
04:12 O come, let us adore Him
04:16 O come, let us adore Him
04:22 Christ the Lord!
04:27 Yea, Lord, we greet Thee
04:31 Born this happy morning
04:35 Jesus, to Thee
04:39 Be all glory given
04:45 Word of the Father
04:49 Now in flesh appearing!
04:53 O come, let us adore Him
04:58 O come, let us adore Him
05:03 O come, let us adore Him
05:08 Christ the Lord!
05:14 Before we go into our study, let's pray.
05:17 Father in heaven, we want to thank You so much
05:19 for the opportunity to be able to stop
05:21 and spend this time that is before us
05:23 to be able to open Your Bible
05:25 and to be able to look at the words of life
05:27 that You give to us in Your Word.
05:29 We thank You so much for Romans and the great gospel
05:31 and the insights that You reveal to us
05:33 there of Your Son Jesus
05:35 and all that You have done for us
05:37 and through Him
05:38 and, Lord, we want to pray that
05:40 You will open our understanding
05:41 and that Your Holy Spirit will be our teacher here today.
05:44 We want to pray a special blessing
05:45 upon Pastor Chuck as he teaches.
05:47 In Jesus' name we pray these things, God, amen.
05:53 Good morning. Happy Sabbath.
05:56 Glad that you're with us both online
05:58 and of course here at Granite Bay.
06:01 I was doing some research.
06:03 Did you realize that
06:04 there are roughly
06:06 a half of million people
06:11 living in the United States that were immigrants in 1780?
06:17 Now you realize of course we had to hold
06:18 the Native American population
06:20 which added a whole bunch more.
06:21 But actually immigrants, I'm speaking of those
06:23 who came over,
06:24 a roughly a half of million, that will be 500,000.
06:28 Of those 500,000,
06:30 roughly 50,000 came involuntarily.
06:36 You know what that means.
06:38 They came, no, not as slaves, they came as prisoners.
06:41 I'm not quite sure all the details with that
06:43 but have to do some more.
06:44 And then the remaining 450,000 roughly one half of them
06:50 came as an indentured servant.
06:53 I just wanted to share a little bit about that,
06:55 it mean I had to realize that that half of those
06:58 who came voluntarily actually came
07:01 as an indentured servant.
07:02 That was before 1750.
07:05 Now the reason was often to pay your passage,
07:08 you want to come over to the new world
07:10 and so you were hoping that someone would pay your way
07:13 and so you would promise to work
07:14 five years for them
07:16 if they would pay your way over.
07:19 Sometimes it was a businessman who was living in,
07:22 say in Virginia, New York, Massachusetts would say,
07:26 I would bring my relatives' children over
07:29 and they're going to work for me
07:31 for five years or ten years whatever the agreement was
07:34 and then they will have their, you know,
07:35 their freedom over here.
07:37 Fifty percent almost of those who came here before 1750,
07:41 this was a somewhat of their experience.
07:44 Now, of course, if it was your uncle
07:46 who paid your passage over,
07:47 your life might have been little bit easier.
07:50 But there were a lot
07:51 who didn't have that kind of experience.
07:53 In fact, probably more or the majority
07:54 of the indentured servants
07:55 were not coming from that perspective.
07:58 There was no control over
08:00 how many hours a week you worked.
08:02 There was no control on what age
08:04 you had to be to do certain things.
08:07 And there was no guarantee
08:10 that someone might say, you know what?
08:13 It was not uncommon that
08:14 maybe someone would get pregnant
08:15 in the middle of their indenturedness.
08:17 I can use that term,
08:18 I don't know if that's the correct term.
08:20 But they got pregnant in the midst of it
08:21 and he said,
08:22 "Okay, well, you can go through the pregnancy,
08:23 have the baby and we're just gonna add
08:25 two years to yours term,
08:26 that way you can fulfill your obligation to us."
08:29 So this is the thinking of indentured servant.
08:31 Now, why are we discussing,
08:32 why am I bringing up indentured servant
08:33 when I'm about to discuss Romans 7?
08:36 There's a reason for it.
08:37 You turn your Bibles with me to Romans 7,
08:40 we're gonna look at verses 1 through 6.
08:43 Romans 7:1-6.
08:46 While you're turning there, I like to state a few thoughts
08:48 that might be helpful.
08:50 When you fulfilled your obligation
08:53 as an indentured servant you were free.
08:56 It's simple.
08:58 When you fulfilled your obligation
09:00 as an indentured servant you were free.
09:03 So fulfillment of the obligation
09:05 gave freedom from that obligation.
09:09 Is that confusing or did that make sense?
09:11 Fulfillment of the obligation gave you freedom
09:14 from the obligation.
09:15 So no longer you're under that obligation
09:17 because you're free from it 'cause it's been fulfilled.
09:21 A very important point.
09:23 Do you realize, you and I
09:26 as a result of sin have an obligation.
09:31 It's a terrible obligation.
09:34 Romans 6:23 and we were...
09:37 Actually Romans 3:23, I jumped ahead of myself.
09:40 Says, "The wages of sin is death."
09:43 The obligation of us
09:46 is not that of an indentured servant.
09:49 We are not free until we die
09:51 which is the obligation of a slave.
09:52 Does that make sense?
09:54 You see the difference.
09:56 We have an obligation.
09:58 And the only way we can be free from that obligation
10:02 is when that obligation is fulfilled.
10:05 And that obligation was filled, praise God
10:07 in the death of our Savior, Jesus Christ.
10:10 He fulfilled an obligation for us
10:13 that if we accept it,
10:14 we can reap the benefits of freedom
10:17 from that obligation.
10:19 That stood out as something positive
10:20 because Romans 7 has its tendencies
10:22 that would not be terribly positive
10:24 as we go through it.
10:25 Romans 7, what verses we are turning to?
10:30 1-7.
10:31 1-6, excuse me.
10:33 "Know ye not, brethren,
10:36 for I speak to them that know the law,
10:38 how that the law hath dominion over a man
10:42 as long as he lives?"
10:45 You know when I first started reading this,
10:47 that stuck out in my mind just a little bit.
10:51 Haven't we just read that somewhere
10:53 about dominion, remember last week?
10:56 Romans 6, when we are looking at Romans 6:14 says,
11:00 "For sin shall not have dominion over you,
11:03 for you are not under the law but under grace."
11:06 Now I'm seeing here in Romans 7,
11:08 "Know ye not, brethren, for I speak to them
11:10 that know the law, how that the..."
11:12 What has dominion here?
11:14 "The law has dominion."
11:16 Now they are almost been used,
11:19 they are not the same in anyway shape or form,
11:22 but sometimes you get the feel that
11:23 Paul is using these anonymously.
11:25 He is not.
11:27 But in Romans 6,
11:29 I'm getting freedom from what?
11:32 Sin.
11:34 Romans 7,
11:35 I'm getting freedom from what?
11:40 Yes, kind of, right?
11:43 So let's go.
11:45 "Know ye not, brethren,
11:47 for I speak to them that know the law."
11:49 He is speaking to those
11:50 who are familiar with the Jewish system.
11:52 "How that the law have dominion over a man
11:54 as long as he lives?"
11:55 And then verse 2 and 3 is a great illustration.
11:58 "For the woman which hath an husband
12:02 is bound by the law to her husband
12:04 so long as he lives,
12:05 but if the husband be dead,
12:07 she is loosed from the law of her husband.
12:10 So then if, while her husband lives,
12:13 she be married to another man,
12:15 she shall be called an adulteress:
12:18 but if her husband be dead, she is" what?
12:21 She is free from what?
12:23 "That law.
12:24 So that she is no adulterous
12:26 though she be married to another man.
12:28 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become..."
12:32 What's the next word?
12:33 "Dead."
12:34 Dead and this gonna be our focus.
12:36 We'll try to explain this
12:37 as we finish reading the section.
12:38 "Ye also become dead to" what?
12:42 "The law by the body of Christ,
12:45 that you should be married to another,
12:47 even to him who is raised from the dead,
12:49 that we should bring forth fruit unto God."
12:52 Then verse 5 and 6.
12:54 "For when we were in the flesh,
12:56 the motions of sins or the passions of sins,
13:01 which were by or through the law,
13:04 did work in our members or body
13:07 to bring forth fruit unto death."
13:09 "But now, we are..."
13:12 What's that next word?
13:14 Delivered. "Delivered.
13:16 Set free from the law
13:19 that being dead wherein we were held,
13:24 that we should serve in newness of spirit,
13:27 and not in oldness of letter."
13:31 I want to take some time
13:32 just to unpack those first six verses
13:34 because they are a key I think
13:35 to understanding the rest of chapter 7.
13:39 But I'm gonna do it backwards, is that okay?
13:42 We are not going to start in verse 1,
13:43 I'm gonna start in verse 6.
13:45 Let's look at verse 6.
13:47 And we ask a few questions as I go through verse 6.
13:54 What happens?
13:55 But now we are...
13:58 I'm looking at verse 6,
13:59 "But now we are delivered from the law."
14:03 Why the word delivered?
14:07 Why would we use the word delivered?
14:09 It means set free. Yes.
14:12 So now we are set free from the law.
14:16 And then it says this next part,
14:18 found it fascinating,
14:20 that being dead, or another way is seen is
14:23 being dead to that "wherein we were held.
14:28 "Being dead to that wherein we were held."
14:31 What were we held?
14:32 What was holding us?
14:34 The law was.
14:36 I'm being set free from the law because the law was holding me
14:39 or can I say it in this way, was holding me captive.
14:43 Is that a picture here?
14:45 So the law was holding me captive
14:49 and I'm being delivered from that law
14:52 that's holding me captive.
14:55 I find that interesting.
14:59 Are you being held captive by the law?
15:03 Are you...? I may rephrase it.
15:06 Are you under condemnation of the law?
15:10 Are you guilty?
15:12 You see the picture that's being laid out here.
15:15 There it says that we...
15:17 It says but now we are delivered from,
15:18 praise God, right?
15:22 "That we should serve in newness of spirit,
15:27 and not in oldness of letter."
15:35 I'm not allowed to talk about that yet
15:36 according to my notes, sorry.
15:38 So let's go back to verse 2 and 3.
15:40 Keep your point there.
15:41 The point is, we are delivered from the law
15:46 because we were held in bondage to the law, why?
15:49 Because we were guilty. Isn't that right?
15:51 Once you've broken the law,
15:52 you are now a servant to that law.
15:54 Actually you are servant to sin and held bondage by the law,
15:57 and we put those two separately, okay.
15:59 Let's go back to verse 2 and 3.
16:01 Verse 2 and 3, the marriage analogy
16:02 that Paul is using here in verse 2 and 3, fascinating.
16:06 "For the woman which hath an husband
16:08 is bound by the law
16:12 to her husband so long as he lives,
16:14 but if the husband be dead,
16:15 she is loosed from the law of her husband."
16:17 In other words, she is married to her husband
16:22 and she is forced to stay married to him,
16:25 as long as he lives.
16:28 Pray for my wife.
16:30 Right?
16:32 I'd say pray for me
16:33 but you're not allowed to say that
16:34 when you are a speaker.
16:35 So pray for my wife. Amen?
16:38 I am bound to her,
16:39 she is bound to me because of what?
16:42 The law. That's the way it is.
16:45 We made a covenant with each other
16:47 and it's a binding covenant,
16:49 and we are staying connected.
16:51 That's the picture.
16:52 Now goes to verse 3,
16:55 and we'll not continue with the analogy
16:56 of myself at this point.
16:58 "So then if, while her husband lives,
17:00 she be married to another man,
17:02 she shall be called an adulteress."
17:04 If a wife spends time with someone
17:06 who is not her husband is considered adultery,
17:09 but when the husband dies
17:11 she can spend time with another man
17:13 and it's not considered adultery anymore
17:15 unless he is married.
17:16 Right?
17:18 It goes on and says...
17:21 Yeah, so that's a picture that's being laid out here.
17:26 Paul is trying to give us an understanding
17:28 that death brings freedom.
17:33 There is more that he is sharing,
17:34 but I want to emphasize that part
17:36 'cause that's the part I'm gonna emphasize
17:37 in this lesson.
17:38 Death brings what?
17:40 Freedom.
17:42 There is not freedom from a law.
17:45 Let me split it this way,
17:46 the bondage or the control of the law
17:49 or the being put in prison by that law
17:51 because you are being forced to do a certain thing.
17:54 You and I don't like saying force, do we?
17:56 Because the reality is I chose to be married.
18:00 It was a choice,
18:01 I'm very thankful for that choice.
18:03 But the reality is
18:05 I couldn't get out of it if I wanted to.
18:07 Spiritually speaking,
18:09 but that's okay because I chose to do that.
18:13 Do you realize so many things that we look at is freedom
18:16 are really not freedom, they are bondage.
18:17 And so many things we look at bondage really aren't bondage,
18:19 it's freedom.
18:20 Hope I confused you.
18:23 Really honestly
18:26 when we choose to put our self into something
18:29 that is bondage,
18:30 is it then bondage if we chose it?
18:34 Anyhow I digress.
18:37 Verse 4, "Wherefore, my brethren,
18:43 ye also are become dead to the law."
18:46 And this is the phrase that I really wanted us to focus on
18:49 because that's the first section here
18:51 in your quarterly.
18:52 "We are become dead to the law by the body of" who?
18:58 "We have become dead to the law by the body of Christ.
19:05 What does it mean to become dead to the law?
19:06 We already discussed that in verse 6,
19:08 it means to be delivered from the law.
19:13 Does the law become dead?
19:16 No.
19:17 Do we become dead? Yes.
19:20 How?
19:24 How do we become dead?
19:25 Biblically speaking you just read this last week.
19:28 How do you and I become dead?
19:30 Romans 6.
19:34 Yes, how do I become dead to sin?
19:35 Baptism. Yes, thank you, ma'am.
19:38 Baptism, I should say it
19:40 so those of you who are watching can hear it.
19:41 Romans 6:3 and 4 says,
19:47 "Know ye not, that so many of us
19:49 as were baptized into Jesus Christ
19:51 were baptized into" what?
19:52 "His death.
19:53 Therefore we are buried with him
19:55 by baptism into death."
19:58 That like as Christ was raised up from the dead
20:00 by the glory of the Father,
20:01 even so we also should walk in newness of life.
20:05 So I am dead when I'm connected with Christ,
20:09 He died so therefore I died.
20:14 His death then becomes mine.
20:17 And that is the beauty of Christianity.
20:20 His death becomes mine.
20:22 That's how I can experience life.
20:27 The Bible continues on
20:29 in this passage had a few more things
20:31 are being dead, verse 6 of Romans 6
20:35 "Knowing this, that our old man is" what?
20:40 Crucified with who?
20:42 With Him.
20:44 The way you and I die is by dying with Him.
20:49 Accepting His death on our behalf
20:53 and, yes, dying with Him.
20:56 It is only through death
20:58 that you and I can experience life.
21:01 Is the only way.
21:03 That's why you see in Romans 7 where we were just at,
21:06 and it says in verse 6,
21:09 "We should serve in newness of spirit,
21:11 and not oldness of letter."
21:13 That only takes place when there is a resurrection.
21:16 There's got to be a resurrection.
21:19 There's got to be a death,
21:20 there has to be a resurrection.
21:24 Let's continue,
21:26 verse 4 continued and said this,
21:31 "That you should be married to another"
21:32 so we die with Christ,
21:35 and then we can be remarried.
21:37 It's kind of interesting typically.
21:38 Okay, here's this scenario before, husband wife,
21:43 husband dies, wife can get remarried.
21:47 This is different, husband wife,
21:50 husband dies so he can be remarried.
21:57 Yeah, are you confused?
22:00 Spiritually that's what we are talking about here.
22:03 What we saw before in 2 and 3 is
22:05 the dead person now is gone
22:08 and alive person has freedom,
22:11 but in this case, we die and we have freedom.
22:17 Do you see that?
22:19 We die to the law
22:23 and now have freedom to remarry.
22:27 Who?
22:28 Jesus Christ, and I love the way
22:31 inspiration puts it here.
22:34 "That we should bring forth fruit unto God."
22:39 New marriage produces new fruit.
22:46 I know that's really deep,
22:48 heavy biological statement right there.
22:51 But new marriage produces new fruit.
22:55 We don't like to think about this
22:57 but this is a reality.
22:59 If you lost your spouse and you remarried,
23:04 your children would be different.
23:08 If you had new children
23:10 with the spouse that you got remarried to,
23:12 does it make sense?
23:14 It's the same thing in our lives,
23:17 when we are married
23:19 and actually Romans use the word
23:20 bondage to the law, the fruit isn't that good.
23:25 But when you and I remarry to Christ,
23:27 we have new fruit.
23:29 Is this a new phrase for Romans 7?
23:31 No, it's not. Go back to Romans 6.
23:35 Romans 6, 7 and 8, if you want to understand 7,
23:38 you have to understand 6, you have to understand 8,
23:40 they are together, internally connected.
23:42 I really wish that I was teaching next week.
23:45 Whoever teaches next week, God bless them.
23:47 They have all the fun part, now this is fun too
23:50 because we have a chance to see who we really are.
23:52 What Jesus can be to us, amen?
23:54 But let's continue, Romans 6, which verse did we mentioned?
23:59 6:22.
24:02 Let's go back to 6:22, we were in 7:4 right now
24:05 and we looked at 7:5,
24:06 we looked about the new fruit, right?
24:09 Actually that was verse 4,
24:12 "We bring forth fruit unto God."
24:13 Let's go back to 6:22, it says,
24:16 "But now being made free from sin,
24:19 and become servants to" whom?
24:21 "God, you have your fruit unto holiness,
24:23 and the end everlasting life."
24:25 So in Romans 7 we are using the marriage symbol.
24:28 In Romans 6 they are using a servant symbol.
24:33 But Romans 6, it says
24:34 when you become a servant to God,
24:36 Romans 7, when you say,
24:37 when you become married to Christ,
24:40 you have what kind of fruit?
24:43 Fruit unto holiness, or righteousness,
24:48 it's a new fruit.
24:50 I propose friends that
24:51 this is the whole issue of Romans 7,
24:55 who you are married to?
24:58 And what it looks like?
25:00 You know, in Romans 7 starting with verse 7,
25:02 actually verse 8 we are going to start to digress.
25:05 We're going to be looking at some things that had happened
25:07 that are not pleasant.
25:09 But in that digression
25:10 it's only simply a recapping of what we saw
25:12 in verses 1 through 6, this remarriage.
25:15 God wants us to have food unto holiness,
25:18 and it's impossible, friends, by yourself.
25:22 In fact, it's impossible of your self.
25:27 There is in you nothing that is good.
25:31 In fact, I will share a phrase with you
25:33 that we'll close up with.
25:37 Desire without power to acquire
25:42 is wretchedness.
25:45 Desire without power to acquire
25:49 is wretchedness.
25:50 Remember that because that's Romans 7.
25:52 That's the Romans 7 man
25:54 and we must realize that picture
25:56 as we come back to it, okay.
26:02 Let's look at verse 5, Romans 7:5,
26:08 "For when we were in the flesh the passions of sins,
26:13 which were by the law,
26:14 did work in our body or members
26:17 to bring forth fruit unto death."
26:18 So you're going to have fruit.
26:21 This is a fruit, a new fruit when you marry with Christ,
26:23 this is the old fruit, fruit that leads to death.
26:30 Is it possible to have fruit unto death?
26:35 Which I said so, 6:20,
26:38 I'm connecting 6 and 7 real quick.
26:40 I won't do this much longer but I'm gonna do little bit
26:42 just to show you the connection.
26:43 6:20, "When you were the servants of sin,
26:46 you were free from" what?
26:48 "Righteousness."
26:49 You know this by memory probably, verse 21,
26:51 what's the next phrase?
26:54 What's the next word?
26:55 "What fruit had you then in the things
26:58 whereof you are now ashamed?
26:59 For the end of those things is death."
27:00 When you are the servant of sin,
27:03 you have fruit to death.
27:05 When you are a servant of God,
27:08 you have a fruit unto righteousness.
27:10 That's Romans 6.
27:11 Now in Romans 7:4,
27:14 it tells me that when I'm married to Christ,
27:17 I have fruit unto God.
27:19 And verse 5 tells me that when I'm in the flesh,
27:24 I have fruit unto death.
27:30 Now I ask you a question.
27:33 What does it mean to be in the flesh
27:35 based upon what I just told you?
27:37 Actually based upon the word just teaching us.
27:44 Let me repeat it.
27:45 When I'm a servant to sin, I have fruit unto death.
27:50 When I'm a servant unto God,
27:52 I have fruit unto righteousness.
27:54 Romans 6.
27:55 Romans 7, when I'm a servant, I'm married to Christ,
27:59 I have fruit unto God.
28:01 When I'm in the flesh, I have fruit unto death.
28:08 Being in the flesh is synonymous
28:11 to being a servant to sin.
28:14 It's the same thing.
28:16 I know that sounds simple but we must grasp that
28:18 because that's an understanding of Romans 7.
28:21 If you want to be a servant...
28:24 If you have fruit that is to sin,
28:26 a fruit is unto death
28:27 is because you are a servant of sin
28:29 or you are fleshly.
28:31 Fleshly does not inherit the kingdom of God, it cannot.
28:37 It's impossible by the way.
28:41 Desire without power to acquire
28:46 is wretchedness.
28:50 Ever feel wretched?
28:53 You don't have to raise your hand,
28:54 I'll raise mine.
28:56 I've been there.
28:58 Because when I had longed for something
29:00 and I can't get it
29:02 and it's impossible for me to get it,
29:05 that's a wretched feeling.
29:09 Desire without ability or power to acquire.
29:12 Okay.
29:13 Let's go on verse 6.
29:15 Let's finish up verse 6.
29:17 I notice my time and so I'm going to continue.
29:20 Verse 6 says, "For now we are delivered from the law,
29:23 that being death wherein we were held."
29:26 And we talked about that,
29:27 I'm going to continue to the last part of this phrase,
29:29 "That we should serve in newness of spirit
29:34 and not in oldness of letter."
29:37 I would like to emphasize,
29:39 it is impossible to serve after you die
29:44 unless there is a resurrection.
29:50 If I go to a funeral
29:52 and I see a person who is dead lying there.
29:57 There's no way that they would ever serve.
30:01 That make sense?
30:02 It's impossible for them to serve.
30:05 How can a dead person serve?
30:06 Can a dead person get up and get you water?
30:10 No.
30:11 Would a dead person mow your lawn?
30:16 You are not sure. Well, let me tell you, no, no.
30:19 We just had Halloween this week,
30:20 I want to clarify, right, it's not happening.
30:23 Dead people don't have ability to accomplish anything,
30:28 unless there is what?
30:31 A resurrection.
30:32 You must have a resurrection or you don't have service.
30:36 Is that clear?
30:38 No resurrection, no service.
30:40 You must have a resurrection to have service.
30:42 So when you see this walking in newness of life,
30:45 oh, it's exciting, but what does it mean?
30:49 Can I go back to my last time?
30:51 Roman 6. Romans 6.
30:54 Do you see a resurrection anywhere last week
30:55 when we studied Romans 6?
30:58 I did. Yes.
31:01 Romans 6:4,
31:03 "Therefore we are buried with him
31:05 by baptism into death, that like as Christ was..."
31:10 What's that word?
31:12 "Raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father,
31:14 even so we also should walk in newness of life."
31:17 Then it says in verse 5,
31:18 "For if we have been planted together
31:20 in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in" what?
31:25 "The likeness of his resurrection."
31:27 When there's a resurrection, there is good service.
31:33 Without a resurrection, there is no service.
31:37 You must have a resurrection.
31:39 Dying is not enough, resurrection is essential.
31:46 "If he be not raised, then our hope is in vain."
31:49 1 Corinthians, amen?
31:52 Okay.
31:54 With all of that theory, how does it apply to me today?
31:58 You might turn with me to Colossians 3.
32:03 Colossians 3.
32:06 Some of you are making the application in your mind
32:08 but if you don't mind I'm gonna take that liberty
32:10 as a teacher here to make the application myself.
32:13 Colossians 3 and starting with verse 1,
32:20 "If ye then be raised or risen with Christ,
32:26 resurrected with Christ,
32:28 seek those things that are above,
32:31 where Christ sits on the right hand of God.
32:34 Set your affection" where?
32:37 "Not on things that are below or on the earth" Why?
32:42 "For ye are dead."
32:45 And your life is set with Christ in God.
32:48 This is the call to be dead and to be raised or risen
32:54 or resurrected with Christ.
32:57 "If you then be risen with Christ,
32:58 seek those things that are above."
33:00 My friends, in our lives,
33:06 we can try to do a lot of things.
33:10 If you simply try to get rid of the bad out of your life,
33:16 you will never be successful.
33:20 If you simply try to get rid of the bad in your life,
33:23 you will never be successful.
33:24 Let me put it this way.
33:25 If you simply try to mortify
33:27 as it says in King James Version,
33:28 or kill the bad things in your life,
33:31 you will never have success in your Christian experience.
33:35 I'm not going to do it
33:36 because these flowers are pretty.
33:37 But I like to pull them out of vase right now.
33:40 Let me show you something, if I had a tree up here,
33:43 little small tree and it was planted
33:47 in a nice potted plant and you have the tree coming up
33:50 and you have all those branches,
33:51 I say, I wanted to get rid of that tree.
33:53 And if I go to that tree and I simply start
33:56 killing the branches, cutting them off
33:59 and throwing them away.
34:01 Have I killed the tree?
34:04 No, the tree is still going to be alive.
34:06 Even though I have done my very best to kill it,
34:09 there is still going to be a life in it.
34:11 It's just a reality of it.
34:15 The only way to get rid of the tree
34:18 is to get rid of the roots, and then there must be what?
34:23 A new life.
34:25 Got to get rid of the old tree, got to get a new tree.
34:27 Get rid of your old trees
34:29 and then ask God to do something in your life.
34:32 If you simply spend your time mortifying
34:35 and don't allow God to do a resurrection in you,
34:38 you will never have success in your Christian experience.
34:41 For simply trying to mortify the old
34:45 and don't allow the resurrection of the new,
34:47 there will not be true life in you.
34:52 Death without a resurrection is not service.
34:56 There must be a resurrection for there to be a service.
34:59 All right, I've beaten that horse too long.
35:00 Okay.
35:02 Are you ready?
35:05 Romans 6:16,
35:11 these are so intricately connected,
35:13 it says, "Know ye not that to whom ye yield yourselves
35:16 servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey,
35:18 whether of sin unto death,
35:19 or of obedience unto righteousness?"
35:21 Right?
35:22 Very simple, you're one or the other.
35:24 You do not have a choice.
35:26 You're a indentured servant or you're indentured servant,
35:28 where do you want to be?
35:29 You're a slave or you're slave,
35:31 which side you want to be a slave on?
35:33 That's just a reality.
35:34 You're married to one or you're married to the other.
35:36 Sorry.
35:37 Isn't it interesting how Paul connects
35:38 the marriage and slavery?
35:40 Maybe explain some of his other comments.
35:41 Anyhow, lets... I digress.
35:45 But this is where you're stuck.
35:48 You're either married to one or married to the other.
35:50 Slave to one, slave to the other.
35:51 You and I don't have the chance to say,
35:53 I'm free from both.
35:55 There is either one or the other.
35:57 I can't...
35:58 I'll speak for myself, I want to be married to Christ.
36:02 Amen.
36:03 I want to be a slave to Christ.
36:06 I know that comes with obligations,
36:08 sometimes I don't like quite frankly,
36:10 and you know what?
36:12 I trust Him, so I don't care.
36:14 Does it make sense?
36:17 I want Him.
36:19 Romans 7:7
36:21 our next verse says,
36:28 "What shall we say then?
36:29 Is the law sin?"
36:30 And I'm glad he brings this out.
36:32 Paul under inspiration had to realize, I'm comparing,
36:36 I'm using the same phrases for law
36:37 and the first six verses here
36:39 that I used for sin in Romans 6,
36:41 maybe they're going to start thinking that,
36:42 I think, the law was sin and so here's what he says,
36:45 "Is the law sin?"
36:48 And then his answer is what.
36:50 Absolutely not or God forbid, if you have King James Version,
36:54 "No, I had not known sin but by the law,
36:56 for I had not known lust except the law had said,
36:58 thou shall not covet."
37:01 So what law is he talking about here?
37:04 He's talking about the Ten Commandments,
37:05 the moral law without a question at all.
37:08 So the moral law was good.
37:10 I've been talking about the moral law,
37:12 and the moral law is good, then why this complaint?
37:14 What is the relationship and that's the next lesson,
37:17 the next day we're looking at our Sabbath School Study.
37:19 What is the connection between the law and sin?
37:24 What is the connection?
37:25 Because it almost sounds like the law isn't good here.
37:27 Have you sensed that?
37:31 It's not what he's saying
37:32 but you get that feeling sometimes.
37:35 You want to be delivered from it, why?
37:38 What do you want to be delivered from?
37:40 Okay, are you ready for some study?
37:42 I hope so, 'cause I am.
37:45 Let's look at verse 8.
37:48 Romans 7:8 says this,
37:52 "But sin taking occasion
37:55 by the commandment, wrought or produced in me,
38:00 all manner of concupiscence
38:03 or evil desire,
38:08 for without the law, sin was dead."
38:11 Oh, there it is.
38:13 If it wasn't for the law, we wouldn't have sin.
38:16 I guess you knew that already, all right.
38:19 So why do we like the law then?
38:23 Verse 9, "For I was alive without the law once,
38:27 but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died
38:32 and the commandment which I...
38:34 Which was ordained to be alive, I found to be unto death.
38:38 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment,
38:42 deceived me, and by it, kill me or slew me."
38:48 It's almost depressing, isn't it?
38:50 I find it depressing I look at it.
38:52 I'll ask you a few questions.
38:53 Who's doing the action here in verses 8 through 11?
38:55 Who or what is doing the action,
38:58 verses 8 through 11?
39:01 Is it the law doing the action or sin doing the action?
39:03 Sin.
39:04 Sin is doing the action.
39:05 Thank you, Ma'am.
39:08 I'm a teacher when I have someone
39:10 who knows all the answers,
39:11 I'll try to pick on the whole class, okay.
39:15 Thank you.
39:17 So it's sin that's doing the action,
39:19 clearly sin is doing the action.
39:22 What action is sin doing?
39:24 Let's look at verse 8,
39:26 "But sin, taking occasion by the commandment..."
39:29 You know what the word taking occasion is?
39:30 So we have another...
39:32 Opportunity.
39:33 Yeah, taking opportunity. Thank you.
39:35 "So sin taking opportunity by the commandment,
39:39 wrought or produced in me, all manner of evil desire."
39:44 So sin is doing a couple of things,
39:45 it's producing something,
39:49 it's producing in me evil desire.
39:53 Verse 9, sin is doing what?
39:58 Reviving.
39:59 Reviving, bringing life, it's becoming alive.
40:03 That's what it's doing.
40:04 Verse 10...
40:05 Verse 11, "For sin, there are several things here,
40:09 it takes occasion
40:12 by the commandment to do" what?
40:14 "To deceive me and to kill me."
40:18 So there's no question that sin's doing it.
40:23 So what's the role of the law in verses 8 through 11?
40:29 If sin's doing the action,
40:31 somehow law is being connected with it.
40:32 What is the role of the law
40:34 in this action that sin is taking?
40:39 Yes.
40:42 Think about it, sin seizes opportunity
40:45 because of the law,
40:48 sin revives because of the law, sin kills because of the law.
40:54 Wow, most people say just get rid of the law and you're okay.
40:58 And that's actually the thought
40:59 of lot of evangelical Christianity today.
41:01 We know that it can't be the answer
41:04 because he just said in verse...
41:06 Did I get there yet?
41:07 No, I haven't. Forget it.
41:09 It's coming up in next verse.
41:10 Verse 12, it says in verse 12,
41:11 "Where the law is holy and just and good."
41:12 So we know it can't be talking about that.
41:15 So we just get rid of the law and everything's okay?
41:17 No, we got to get rid of sin.
41:24 As soon as the law is revealed in one's life,
41:29 sin is also revealed.
41:32 You see that.
41:33 Soon as the law reveals itself or comes into my life,
41:37 sin is also revealed and then I run into a problem,
41:42 I'm told in the same exact book,
41:44 to the same group of people under the same inspired author
41:46 called Paul, that the wages of sin is death.
41:52 I'm also told that all have sinned.
41:57 Wow, so if all have sinned,
41:59 and come short of the glory of God.
42:05 Sorry, working through this in my mind.
42:08 If all have sinned
42:09 and come short of the glory of God
42:11 and the law comes into my life and reveals sin,
42:15 then the law is telling me that I'm worthy of death.
42:19 Do you see that?
42:21 Everyone realizes the law has had a role in their life,
42:25 and everyone realized that it has revealed sin.
42:28 So you all realized by the nature of the law,
42:33 you and I are worthy of death.
42:34 That's what it says. You and I must die.
42:38 That's why I don't like the law.
42:41 Just get rid of it, right?
42:43 So give me the mirror,
42:45 you got a mirror in your bathroom,
42:46 I don't like the way I look, if I break up the mirror
42:47 then I look better, yeah?
42:50 Problem is I don't look better,
42:51 no matter what kind of mirror I've got, right?
42:53 It's just the way I am.
42:55 So when the commandment comes to us,
42:58 we understand what sin is
43:00 and it's then that we are condemned
43:02 and worthy of death.
43:04 Commandment comes to me, I realize, I'm worthy of death.
43:08 I'm condemned and I stand guilty before God.
43:13 The commandment has power
43:16 because it reveals sin to my conscience.
43:23 And there's few things worse than a guilty conscience.
43:29 How's this for all the hope that we have today?
43:32 Can I read something to you?
43:35 The Apostle Paul, this is from fourth volume,
43:38 the Spirit of Prophecy, page 296.
43:41 The Apostle Paul in relating his experience
43:43 presents an important truth
43:45 concerning the work to be wrought in conversion.
43:48 He says, I was alive without the law once,
43:51 he felt no condemnation, but when the commandment came,
43:55 that is when the law of God was urged upon his conscience,
43:58 sin revived and I died, then he saw himself a sinner,
44:04 condemned by the divine law.
44:08 Mark, it was Paul and not the law that died.
44:14 That's a very important statement
44:15 I think here.
44:16 Again from the fourth volume
44:17 of Spirit of Prophecy page, 296,
44:21 or you find SDA Bible commentary
44:26 volume 6, page 1076.
44:29 Simply put, the law is a conveyor of truth,
44:36 and it's the truth that has that effect on us.
44:39 Let me put this way.
44:42 The results that happen when truth is conveyed
44:45 are often blamed on that truth,
44:50 but is it the truth's fault?
44:54 I'll rephrase that.
44:55 The results that happen when the truth is conveyed
44:59 are often blamed on that truth, but is it the truth's fault?
45:03 No, it's not.
45:05 It is the condition of whatever truth
45:07 is acting upon that determines
45:09 whether the truth's revealing is good or bad.
45:11 Another words, let's just say...
45:18 I've had this happen, I was in a...
45:20 I went to an Adventist academy
45:21 and I was hiding out downstairs watching TV.
45:25 Now we had a TV in our, we called it rec room,
45:27 and it was basically so the guys could watch ESPN
45:30 'cause it really what it amounted to.
45:31 And so...
45:33 'Cause the sports was, you know,
45:34 how it is sometimes in the academy?
45:35 And I remember hiding out down there
45:38 and we would, sometimes switch the channel,
45:43 you know, to get ESPN, you have to have cable,
45:46 with cable there's a lot of other channels
45:49 and we would switch to, you know,
45:51 MTV or something like that and we would be watching it,
45:55 but we always had a person
45:56 who was listening by the steps for the sound of the keys,
46:00 jangling from the dean's belt as he walked down the steps
46:05 because you wanted to know if the dean was on his way.
46:09 Now there is also another place downstairs
46:13 that was a room with the ping-pong table.
46:18 So if the MTV was on or HBO or whatever was happening
46:23 and I was in the other room playing ping-pong,
46:28 was I worried when the keys came jangling down the steps?
46:33 No, of course not.
46:35 The law had just arrived,
46:38 but it didn't bothered me an iota
46:39 'cause it wasn't revealing anything in me.
46:43 But, as did happened once, I was down there by myself,
46:47 claiming a sick day, watching the movie
46:53 and I got so caught up,
46:55 I didn't recognize my dean was watching it with me.
47:00 Talk about embarrassment.
47:03 He was a smart man, he realized,
47:04 when it's desperate you just hold your keys together
47:06 and no one hears you anyhow, right?
47:07 Just walk down the steps.
47:10 Was I condemned? Yes.
47:13 Was I under the law? Yes.
47:15 Did I feel guilty? Yes.
47:18 Was I guilty? Yes.
47:20 Because the law was revealed in the dean.
47:25 The revealing of the law is not bad,
47:29 if it's not revealing sin in us.
47:32 Does it make sense?
47:35 But the reality is,
47:36 it has revealed sin in all of us.
47:41 I'd like to...
47:44 Remember this, the parable where the Jesus gives about
47:46 the seed, the sower and the seed
47:49 and they put seed out.
47:51 The seed is the truth of God's word.
47:54 Yes.
47:55 And when it falls into fertile ground,
47:57 it has good results, yes?
48:00 And when it falls into bad ground,
48:01 it has bad results, yes?
48:03 Is it the truth's fault?
48:05 No, what is it? It's the ground's fault.
48:08 It's the nature of the soil that determines it.
48:13 I like to spend a little bit of time
48:19 as we close with the man of Romans 7...
48:25 "For I know that the law is spiritual,
48:28 but I'm carnal, sold under sin.
48:32 "For that which I do I allow not:
48:34 for what I would, that do I not,
48:37 but what I hate, that I do.
48:40 If then I do that which is, I would not.
48:43 I consent unto the law that it is good.
48:46 Now then it is no more I that do it,
48:48 but sin that dwells in me,
48:50 for I know that in me, that is in my flesh,
48:53 dwells no good things for to will is present with me,
48:58 but how to perform that which is good, I find not."
49:05 What a terrible picture,
49:07 desire without the power to acquire is wretchedness.
49:14 Just because you desire good, doesn't mean you are good.
49:20 Desire without the power to acquire is wretchedness.
49:27 I could desire good all day long,
49:30 I want to be good,
49:32 I don't want to have these bad thoughts,
49:33 I don't want to be angry at this person,
49:35 I don't want to be selfish, I want to be a godly man,
49:40 but my desire is not enough.
49:44 Desire is not enough.
49:47 And that is the problem with the Romans 7 man.
49:51 He has desire without power to acquire.
49:58 I think, as I share this talk,
50:00 there's tons of emotion that's involved in it,
50:03 for myself and probably for most of the people
50:05 hear this or study it.
50:07 I don't know how many people I've talked to,
50:09 look at Romans 7 and they say,
50:12 you know, Chuck, Romans 7 describes my experience
50:15 and I believe I must be okay, so therefore,
50:18 it's okay to have a Romans 7 experience.
50:20 And I believe all of us have gone through
50:21 Romans 7 experience at some point in our life.
50:24 Maybe some of you're experiencing, feeling it now.
50:28 But Romans 7 is not the end of the story, friends,
50:31 Romans 7 is simply a stage that people go through
50:35 when they see what the law reveals to them.
50:40 When the law reveals itself in your life,
50:43 then sin is revealed in your life.
50:46 And you realize who you really are.
50:49 Continues on.
50:54 Verse 19, "For the good which I would, I do not.
50:58 For the evil which I would not, that I do."
51:01 I've shared this story with you before,
51:05 but it stands...
51:08 It would be good to share now.
51:10 I remember distinctly, the determination
51:13 in my little five, six-year-old heart,
51:15 as I listened to a sermon one Sabbath morning
51:17 that I was going to never sin again.
51:20 I've determined, I wasn't going to.
51:22 And you all can smile and laugh at that
51:24 because you and I know the desire is not what?
51:28 The power to acquire.
51:32 Desires by itself is kind of...
51:35 We could be humorous when it's a five-year-old boy,
51:37 but it's not humorous when it's a 40-year-old man
51:39 or a 65-year-old lady, am I right?
51:43 It no longer is it funny anymore,
51:44 it's painful and it hurts.
51:51 I remember that decision, I remember falling apart
51:54 within about five minutes, as I got out to the parking lot
51:56 and my sister and I fought nonstop
51:58 when I was a kid.
52:00 Just fighting and all that.
52:01 And I realized then, the desire without the power to acquire
52:07 is what?
52:08 It's wretchedness.
52:12 And when I got older, it became bigger things,
52:14 not fighting with my sister,
52:15 you know what I'm talking about.
52:17 You get into scenarios and maybe you see your...
52:19 Who you really are when you've children,
52:21 I found that for myself.
52:22 I found out, man, I'm not a patient person
52:24 in any way, shape or form.
52:25 I'm hotheaded, I knew that before,
52:28 but you kind of hide it for a while
52:30 when you're single person.
52:31 And then I got married, it rose to the surface
52:33 and I pushed it back down again,
52:35 my good German genes.
52:37 I can do what I want to do. But I tell you what?
52:41 I'm not able to change Chuck Holtry.
52:45 I'm wretched without God.
52:51 Do any of you here have the power
52:55 to acquire righteousness in your self?
53:00 No.
53:01 Are you sure? Yes.
53:03 Is there not anyone here
53:05 has the power to acquire righteousness by yourself?
53:09 No. So you know what that means?
53:11 You without Christ are wretched.
53:16 Oh, wretched man that I am.
53:19 Who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
53:23 But, God has known the desire of our hearts.
53:30 He knows, He plants that desire in our hearts
53:34 and He gives us hope.
53:37 More than that, He gives us power to acquire.
53:42 And who is it found in?
53:44 It's found in Jesus Christ.
53:46 That was the answer.
53:48 Romans 7 answer, I always said was in Romans 8.
53:51 But now, I'd like to tell you, it's also in Romans 7.
53:56 Romans 7:4,
54:02 "Wherefore, my brethren,
54:04 ye also are become dead to the law
54:06 by the body of Christ,
54:09 that you should be married to another,
54:11 even to him that is raised up from the dead,
54:15 that we should bring forth fruit unto God."
54:21 It's awesome.
54:24 It's being married to Christ.
54:26 What does that look like? How does that play out?
54:29 Come back next week.
54:30 But it's being married to Christ
54:33 that gives me the freedom
54:35 from the experience of Romans 7.
54:39 He told us at the beginning of Romans 7,
54:40 then we went through Romans 7 and got all depressed.
54:42 And then at the end, in Romans 8,
54:44 we're going to see this whole picture,
54:45 what it means to live by the spirit
54:47 and not live by the flesh.
54:49 Beautiful picture.
54:51 But we must understand Romans 7.
54:53 Romans 7 is telling us the truth
54:54 that we must understand
54:56 and that is the desire to do good
54:59 without the ability or power
55:01 to acquire righteousness is wretchedness.
55:05 Our only hope is found in Jesus Christ
55:08 and that is the message of Romans 7.
55:12 Remember, we started out with the story
55:13 of indentured servant.
55:15 Yes, we talked about
55:18 how these indentured servants came and almost half
55:21 of the immigrants coming into the US
55:24 before 1750 were indentured servants.
55:30 You know, they couldn't think for themselves,
55:32 did you realize that?
55:34 Can I get married? No. Okay.
55:38 Unless you ran away, then if you ran away,
55:39 you get tracked down and brought back by the law.
55:42 Right?
55:44 Can I go and take a vacation? No.
55:47 Can I get off at six tonight? No.
55:49 Were they in charge of their lives?
55:51 Absolutely not, and I can tell you
55:54 from personal experience and I'm sure you could too,
55:56 then that's what sin does to us.
55:59 Have you been bondage to sin?
56:00 You know what I'm talking about.
56:02 I want to do this. No, you can't...
56:04 I want to do this. No, you can't.
56:05 I want righteousness.
56:08 I want to be good,
56:09 I want to have peace in my life.
56:10 I want to have joy in my life.
56:12 I want to have holiness in my life
56:13 and I can't find it.
56:17 That is experience of Romans 7.
56:19 It's experience of an indentured servant,
56:21 but Christ has fulfilled the obligation.
56:26 Amen.
56:27 Just want to remind you that there is a free book,
56:33 if you want to call in,
56:34 and this is for my watching audience
56:37 as well as for those of you who are sitting here.
56:40 It's a great book, I strongly suggest it.
56:41 It's called "The Flesh and the Spirit-Understanding
56:43 Romans 7."
56:45 And you can get that at 1-866-788-3966.
56:48 Just call 1-866-788-3966.
56:52 I strongly suggest you do that.
56:54 Happy reading. God bless you.
56:57 Let's face it, it's not always easy
56:59 to understand everything you read in The Bible.
57:02 With over 700,000 words contained in 66 books,
57:06 The Bible can generate a lot of questions.
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