Sabbath School Study Hour

Lesson 10: The Wrath of Elihu

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Participants: Pr. Doug Batchelor

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00:00 (MUSIC)
00:35 >>GOOD MORNING, FRIENDS, WELCOME AGAIN TO SABBATH SCHOOL
00:37 STUDY HOUR. A VERY WARM WELCOME TO THOSE
00:40 JOINING US, ONCE AGAIN, ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD
00:42 - PART OF OUR EXTENDED SABBATH SCHOOL CLASS.
00:45 ALSO A WARM WELCOME TO THE MEMBERS AND THOSE WHO ARE
00:47 VISITING HERE AT THE GRANITE BAY CHURCH - GLAD YOU CAME TO STUDY
00:50 OUR LESSON TOGETHER WITH US. NOW, WE'VE BEEN STUDYING
00:53 THROUGH THE BOOK OF JOB. TODAY WE FIND OURSELVES ON
01:02 LESSON #10 ENTITLED THE WRATH OF ELIHU .
01:03 SO AN INTERESTING STUDY THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT TODAY.
01:04 IF YOU DON'T HAVE A COPY OF TODAY'S LESSON, YOU CAN DOWNLOAD
01:06 LESSON #10 AT THE AMAZING FACTS WEBSITE - JUST AMAZINGFACTS.ORG
01:10 - STUDYING LESSON #10 - YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THAT AND YOU CAN STUDY
01:13 ALONG WITH US. WE DO HAVE A FREE OFFER THAT
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01:22 DAZZLING DARKNESS AND THIS IS THE FREE OFFER FOR TODAY.
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01:34 CAN ASK FOR OFFER #820. NOW, BEFORE WE GET TO OUR STUDY,
01:38 AS USUAL, WE LIKE TO BEGIN BY LIFTING OUR VOICES IN PRAISE.
01:42 I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR SONG LEADERS TO COME AND THEY WILL
01:44 LEAD US IN OUR HYMN FOR THIS MORNING. (SOFT PIANO MUSIC)
01:50 >>AS USUAL, WE LOVE TO SING TOGETHER WITH THOSE ACROSS THE
01:53 COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD. WE WELCOME YOU TO PULL OUT YOUR
01:55 HYMNALS AND SING WITH US 'TIS ALMOST TIME FOR THE LORD TO COME
02:00 - HYMN #212 - WE'RE GOING TO SING THE FIRST, THE LAST -
02:03 SECOND AND THE LAST VERSES. AND I AM SO GRATEFUL THAT WE
02:07 CAN SING THIS WITH GUSTO THIS MORNING.
02:09 HE IS ALMOST HERE AND I PRAY THAT EACH ONE OF YOU HAVE HIM
02:13 LIVING IN YOUR HEART AND YOU ARE READY FOR HIS COMING.
02:15 HE WANTS US TO BE READY ALL THE TIME, CORRECT?
02:18 NOT JUST ALWAYS GETTING READY, HE WANTS US TO BE READY.
02:21 SO WE'RE GOING TO SING ABOUT THAT. (PIANO MUSIC)
04:38 >>YOU CAN PUT YOUR HYMNALS
04:39 AWAY BECAUSE WE HAVE A SPECIAL FEATURE FOR YOU THIS MORNING.
04:43 WE HAVE SPECIAL GUESTS THAT ARE JOINING US FROM PINE HILLS
04:46 ADVENTIST ACADEMY. IT'S JUST UP THE ROAD FROM
04:48 GRANITE BAY ABOUT 20 MILES IN AUBURN, CALIFORNIA.
04:54 THEY ARE THE CHOIR THAT ARE SINGING FOR US TODAY, AMAZING
04:57 GRACE, AND THEY ARE BEING DIRECTED BY JILL GENOBAGA.
05:03 (PIANO MUSIC)
05:42 >>AMAZING GRACE HOW SWEET THE SOUND THAT SAVED A
05:55 WRETCH LIKE ME, I ONCE WAS LOST BUT NOW AM FOUND, WAS BLIND BUT
06:15 NOW I SEE. 'TWAS GRACE THAT TAUGHT MY HEART
06:46 TO FEAR AND GRACE MY FEARS RELIEVED; HOW PRECIOUS DID THAT
07:01 GRACE APPEAR THE HOUR I FIRST BELIEVED.
07:28 THROUGH MANY DANGERS, TOILS, AND SNARES, I HAVE ALREADY COME;
07:45 'TIS GRACE HATH BROUGHT ME SAFE THUS FAR, AND GRACE WILL LEAD ME
08:00 HOME. AND WHEN THIS FLESH AND HEART
08:22 SHALL FAIL, AND MORTAL LIFE SHALL CEASE, I SHALL POSSESS
08:37 WITHIN THE VEIL, A LIFE OF JOY AND PEACE.
09:21 >>AMEN. >>AMEN. BEAUTIFUL.
09:39 THANK YOU, PINE HILLS ACADEMY CHOIR.
09:42 WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. BEFORE WE GET TO OUR STUDY THIS
09:45 MORNING, AS ALWAYS, LET'S BOW OUR HEADS FOR A WORD OF PRAYER.
09:48 DEAR FATHER IN HEAVEN, WHAT A PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO GATHER
09:51 TOGETHER ON THIS YOUR SABBATH AND OPEN UP YOUR WORD AND STUDY
09:53 TOGETHER. AND, AS WE LOOK AT OUR CONTINUED STUDY IN THE BOOK OF
09:56 JOB, WE PRAY, LORD THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT WOULD COME AND GUIDE OUR
10:00 HEARTS, OUR MINDS AS WE UNDERSTAND A LITTLE MORE OF THE
10:03 GREAT CONTROVERSY TAKING PLACE BEHIND THE SCENES BUT,
10:06 ULTIMATELY, HOW YOU'LL BE VICTORIOUS AND HOW YOU COMFORT
10:09 AND STRENGTHEN THOSE WHO PUT THEIR TRUST IN YOU.
10:12 THANK YOU, LORD, FOR YOUR PROMISE TO BE WITH US.
10:14 IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. OUR LESSON THIS MORNING WILL BE
10:17 BROUGHT TO US BY PASTOR DOUG. >>GOOD TO SEE EACH OF YOU.
10:21 WE ARE CONTINUING OUR STUDY IN THE BOOK OF JOB AND TODAY, YOU
10:26 KNOW, I SPENT MORE TIME STUDYING THE BOOK OF JOB THIS YEAR THAN
10:28 ANY OTHER TIME IN MY LIFE. >>PRAISE THE LORD!
10:31 >>AND I'VE LEARNED A LOT OF THINGS. IT'S REALLY -
10:33 IT'S BEEN A BLESSING. BUT WE'RE ON LESSON #10 IN OUR
10:37 STUDY TODAY, WHICH IS TITLED THE WRATH OF ELIHU .
10:42 AND WE'LL EXPLAIN WHAT THAT TITLE IS DEALING WITH, BUT WE
10:45 HAVE A MEMORY VERSE - THE MEMORY VERSE IS ACTUALLY FROM THE BOOK
10:47 OF ISAIAH - ISAIAH 55, VERSE 9 AND IF YOU'LL SAY THAT WITH ME,
10:53 HERE IT'S IN THE NEW KING JAMES VERSION - ISAIAH 55:9 - ARE YOU
10:56 READY? "FOR AS THE HEAVENS ARE HIGHER
11:00 THAN THE EARTH, SO ARE MY WAYS HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS, AND MY
11:05 THOUGHTS THAN YOUR THOUGHTS." AND THAT'S A THEME THAT REPEATS
11:10 ITSELF A LITTLE LATER IN OUR LESSON.
11:13 NOW, AS WE'RE CONTINUING ON THROUGH THE BOOK OF JOB - I
11:16 THINK YOU PROBABLY KNEW WHEN WE STARTED ON THIS - THE BOOK OF
11:19 JOB'S GOT 42 CHAPTERS - THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO
11:22 COVER, IN DETAIL, EVERY CHAPTER - EVERY VERSE IN THE BOOK OF
11:28 JOB, SO THE AUTHOR OF THE LESSON IS KIND OF DOING A FLY-OVER A
11:33 LITTLE BIT OF SEVERAL CHAPTERS OF THE DIALOGUE THAT GOES BACK -
11:37 WE'VE NOTICED THAT JOB FINALLY OPENS HIS MOUTH AFTER SEVEN DAYS
11:42 OF EVERYONE SITTING IN SILENCE, WATCHING HIM SUFFER AND HE,
11:46 SORT OF, CURSES THE DAY OF HIS BIRTH.
11:48 AND THEN, ONE OF HIS FRIENDS RESPONDS.
11:51 JOB - NOW HOW MANY FRIENDS DOES IT START OUT WITH THAT ARE
11:54 AROUND JOB? >>THREE.
11:56 >>THREE FRIENDS - JOB AND HIS THREE FRIENDS.
11:59 AND THEN JOB RESPONDS AND THEN ANOTHER FRIEND RESPONDS AND JOB
12:03 RESPONDS TO THEM AND THEN ANOTHER FRIEND RESPONDS AND THEN
12:06 JOB RESPONDS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FINALLY WHEN YOU GET TO CHAPTERS
12:11 26 TO 31, IT'S ALL JOB RESPONDING TO HIS FRIENDS
12:17 BASICALLY SAYING, 'WELL, LET'S FACE IT, JOB, THIS WOULD NEVER
12:20 HAPPEN TO YOU UNLESS YOU HAD DONE SOMETHING WRONG AND, YOU
12:23 KNOW, THERE'S SOME SECRET SIN IN YOUR LIFE AND, YOU KNOW, 'FESS
12:26 UP, WHAT IS IT?' AND HE'S SAYING, 'NO,' - YOU
12:28 KNOW - 'I'M MORE RIGHTEOUS THAN YOU GUYS.
12:30 IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING I'VE DONE.' AND THEY GO BACK AND
12:32 FORTH AND THEY SAY, 'COME ON, NOW, BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO BAD
12:34 PEOPLE. GOD BLESSES THE GOOD AND CURSES
12:37 THE BAD.' AND HE SAID, 'NO, NOT ALWAYS.' AND THEY'RE BOTH REALLY
12:41 RIGHT AND THEY KIND OF ARE EXPLORING THE GREAT THEMES IN
12:45 THE GREAT CONTROVERSY IN THIS PASSAGE.
12:47 AND SO, HERE - AND THIS IS UNDER THE SECTION CALLED MISERABLE
12:51 COMFORTERS . THAT'S QUITE A - ACTUALLY, THE
12:54 PHRASE, IT COMES FROM THE BOOK OF JOB.
12:59 YOU EVER HEARD PEOPLE SAY REALLY ODD THINGS AT FUNERALS?
13:04 AND - OR THEY GO TO MAKE A HOSPITAL VISIT AND THEY'RE
13:08 SUPPOSED TO BE THERE TO COMFORT AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SAYING
13:12 THINGS LIKE, 'WELL, YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST CHANGE YOUR DIET, YOU
13:15 WOULDN'T BE HERE.' WHICH MAY BE TRUE, BUT IT'S NOT VERY
13:18 COMFORTING. OR, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN PEOPLE
13:21 AT FUNERALS AND THEY JUST - THEY SAY SOME VERY, VERY ROUGH THINGS
13:30 - MISERABLE COMFORTERS AT TIMES LIKE THAT.
13:33 YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, PASTORS GO TO ABOVE THE AVERAGE NUMBER
13:37 OF FUNERALS AND SO, YOU SEE AND HEAR SOME INTERESTING THINGS.
13:39 AND, YOU KNOW, AT FUNERALS, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT REALLY SCARES ME
13:43 IS, YOU KNOW, USUALLY THERE IS - SOMEONE'LL HAVE A POEM, THERE'S
13:47 A SONG, THERE'LL BE THE EULOGY, THERE'S A SERMONETTE, AND THEN
13:50 THE FAMILY SAYS, 'WE'D LIKE TO THEN OPEN THE MICROPHONES AND
13:56 LET PEOPLE - LET PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, GET UP -
13:59 JUST SHARE THEIR MEMORIES ABOUT THE PERSON.
14:02 BOY, I TELL YOU, THAT CAN REALLY GET OUT OF HAND.
14:06 SOMETIMES IT'S BEAUTIFUL. SOMETIMES IT'S INSPIRING.
14:08 I'VE BEEN TO SOME FUNERALS BEFORE WHERE I COULD HAVE STAYED
14:09 FOR HOURS AND HEARD ABOUT THIS PERSON - JUST INSPIRING.
14:13 AND THEN, ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMEONE WILL GET UP AND NO ONE
14:16 KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING AT THE FUNERAL - THEY'VE NEVER SEEN
14:18 THEM BEFORE - AND THEY START TO SAY, 'OH YEAH, BILL AND I, WE
14:21 USED TO HAVE THE MOST WONDERFUL DRINKING PARTIES AND WE'D GO OUT
14:24 AND WE'D DRINK' - AND EVERYONE'S LOOKING AROUND.
14:30 YOU'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT OPEN MICROPHONE.
14:32 AND SO, YOU HEAR SOME STRANGE THINGS AT FUNERALS AND WEDDINGS.
14:39 AND I'VE HEARD SOME PEOPLE COMMENT AS I'M STANDING THERE AT
14:42 THE CASKET, YOU KNOW, AND THE FAMILIES FILE BY AND YOU HEAR
14:44 PEOPLE SAY THINGS TO THE FAMILY AND YOU THINK, 'OH, THAT'S GOT
14:48 TO HURT.' AND JOB HAD FRIENDS THAT ARE THERE WATCHING HIM
14:53 SUFFER AND HE HASN'T DONE - YOU AND I KNOW, BEHIND THE SCENES,
14:55 THE DEVIL'S ATTACKING HIM. HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING WRONG
14:57 AND HIS FRIENDS ARE JUST ACCUSING HIM OF TERRIBLE THINGS.
15:02 SO UNDER THIS SECTION MISERABLE COMFORTERS , IT SORT OF COVERS
15:06 THE - A NUMBER OF VERSES THAT YOU FIND, OH ALL THE WAY FROM
15:09 JOB 13 UP UNTIL THE END OF JOB'S SPEECH.
15:14 NOW ONE THING I WANT YOU TO NOTICE ABOUT THE BOOK OF JOB -
15:17 JOB IS A MAJESTIC BOOK BECAUSE, DO YOU REALIZE EVERY OTHER BIBLE
15:22 WRITER - NAME A BIBLE WRITER. LUKE, PAUL, DAVID, MOSES - ANY
15:29 OF THEM - EVERY BIBLE WRITER COULD READ JOB FIRST.
15:34 SO JOB INFLUENCED EVERY OTHER BIBLE WRITER BECAUSE THE BOOK
15:39 WAS THERE. AND YOU'LL FIND QUITE A FEW
15:42 BIBLE WRITERS REFERENCING JOB. I'LL GET TO SAY A LITTLE MORE
15:46 ABOUT THAT, BUT LET'S JUST LOOK AT A FEW THINGS.
15:48 FOR INSTANCE, YOU LOOK IN JOB 13:28 - WE'RE GOING TO DO JUST
15:53 SOME HOT SPOTS HERE FROM THE BOOK OF JOB.
15:56 "MAN DECAYS LIKE A ROTTEN THING, LIKE A GARMENT THAT IS
16:00 MOTH-EATEN." HERE IT'S TALKING ABOUT - OR
16:03 'LIKE A GRASS THAT SPRINGS UP IN THE MORNING AND THEN THE SUN
16:06 SCORCHES IT AND ALL OUR DAYS ARE LIKE A SHADOW' AND YOU FIND THAT
16:08 PRINCIPLE REPEATED SEVERAL TIMES THROUGH THE BOOK OF JOB.
16:12 YOU CAN LOOK - AND YOU FIND A LOT OF MAJOR DOCTRINES ARE FIRST
16:16 IN JOB. IF EVANGELISTS COULD NOT USE THE
16:19 BOOK OF JOB, WE'D BE HANDICAPPED BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PROOF TEXTS
16:24 FOR VARIOUS DOCTRINES ARE FIRST FOUND IN THE BOOK OF JOB.
16:28 LOOK, FOR INSTANCE, IN JOB CHAPTER 14. YOU CAN GO THERE
16:30 WITH ME - JOB 14, VERSES 10 THROUGH 12 - THIS IS ONE THAT
16:35 KIND OF DEALS WITH THE STATE OF THE DEAD: "BUT MAN DIES AND IS
16:39 LAID AWAY; INDEED HE BREATHES HIS LAST AND WHERE IS HE?
16:44 AS WATER DISAPPEARS FROM THE SEA AND A RIVER BECOMES PARCHED AND
16:48 DRIES UP, SO MAN LIES DOWN AND DOES NOT RISE."
16:51 - AND, BY THE WAY, WHEN THEY SAID, 'WATER DISAPPEARS FROM THE
16:53 SEA' YOU MIGHT THINK, 'AH THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.'
16:56 THEY'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE MEDITERRANEAN OR THE
16:59 ATLANTIC OR THE ARABIAN SEA, JOB LIVED IN THE AREA WHERE THEY HAD
17:03 GREAT SALT FLATS AND THERE WOULD BE A SEA OF WATER.
17:06 IF YOU LIVE IN NEVADA YOU KNOW THEY'VE GOT LIKE MASSACRE LAKE
17:08 AND THESE DIFFERENT PLACES - A SEA THAT APPEARS WHEN THERE'S A
17:11 LOT OF RAIN, AND THEN IT DRIES UP.
17:13 AND "THE WATER DISAPPEARS FROM THE SEA AND A RIVER BECOMES
17:18 PARCHED AND DRIES UP, SO MAN LIES DOWN AND DOES NOT RISE TILL
17:23 THE HEAVENS ARE NO MORE," WHEN IS THAT?
17:25 WHEN JESUS COMES AND THE HEAVENS DEPART AS A SCROLL.
17:29 "THEY WILL NOT AWAKE NOR BE ROUSED FROM THEIR SLEEP."
17:32 WHAT IS THE STATE OF MAN IN DEATH?
17:34 HE'S ASLEEP UNTIL THE HEAVENS ARE NO MORE, TILL THE SECOND
17:37 COMING AND HE RISES. YOU CAN LOOK, ALSO, IN JOB 13,
17:42 VERSE 15 - WE'VE GOT THAT FAMOUS VERSE: "THOUGH" - AND IT'S BEEN
17:45 QUOTED SEVERAL TIMES, "THOUGH HE SLAY ME, YET WILL I TRUST HIM."
17:49 TALKING ABOUT THAT RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH PRINCIPLE.
17:53 YOU CAN LOOK IN JOB 19 - GO THERE REAL QUICK - VERSE 25 -
17:59 NOW SOMEONE HERE IS GOING TO READ - I'VE GOT SOME VERSES
18:01 LINED UP - HAFDIS, YOU'LL BE READING, IS IT 28:28?
18:05 ALRIGHT JUST A MOMENT WE'LL HAVE YOU - JOB 19:25, "FOR I KNOW
18:09 THAT MY REDEEMER LIVES, AND HE SHALL STAND AT LAST ON THE
18:12 EARTH;" - SO HE SAYS, 'MY REDEEMER WILL STAND ON THE
18:15 EARTH.' IT TALKS ABOUT AT THE END OF THE 1,000 YEARS THE NEW
18:19 JERUSALEM COMES DOWN AND THE MESSIAH'S FEET TOUCH THE MOUNT
18:23 OF OLIVES, NOT TO MENTION THE FIRST COMING OF JESUS WHEN HE
18:26 LIVED ON THE EARTH. "HE SHALL STAND AT LAST ON THE
18:30 EARTH; AND AFTER MY SKIN IS DESTROYED, THIS I KNOW, THAT IN
18:33 MY FLESH" - OBVIOUSLY, IF HIS FLESH IS DESTROYED, IT MUST BE
18:36 HIS FLESH MADE NEW - THE NEW BODY - "I SHALL SEE GOD."
18:40 - IT SAYS WE WILL SEE HIM FACE TO FACE "WHOM I SHALL SEE FOR
18:43 MYSELF, AND MY EYES SHALL BEHOLD, AND NOT ANOTHER.
18:45 HOW MY HEART YEARNS WITHIN ME!" SO THERE'S SEVERAL BIBLICAL
18:49 TRUTHS THAT ARE ALL PACKED INTO THAT ONE VERSE THAT YOU FIND
18:52 LATER REPEATED BY OTHER BIBLE WRITERS.
18:55 GO AHEAD, PLEASE, READ FOR US JOB 28:28.
18:59 >>"AND TO MAN HE SAID, 'BEHOLD, THE FEAR OF THE LORD, THAT IS
19:04 WISDOM, AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL IS UNDERSTANDING.'"
19:09 >>NOW I CAN'T COUNT HOW MANY TIMES YOU'LL FIND THAT IN THE
19:11 BIBLE - IN THE NEW AND THE OLD TESTAMENT. HERE'S A FEW EXAMPLES
19:14 FOR THAT: KING DAVID READ THE BOOK OF JOB AND DAVID WROTE, IN
19:18 PSALM 111:10, "THE FEAR OF THE LORD IS THE BEGINNING OF
19:21 WISDOM." THAT SOUND FAMILIAR? "A GOOD UNDERSTANDING HAVE ALL
19:25 THOSE WHO DO HIS COMMANDMENTS." THEN YOU HAVE SOLOMON - SOLOMON
19:28 HAD THE BENEFIT OF NOT ONLY READING THE BOOK OF JOB, HE
19:31 COULD READ THE WRITINGS OF HIS FATHER DAVID.
19:33 AND SOLOMON WROTE: "THE FEAR OF THE LORD IS THE BEGINNING OF
19:36 KNOWLEDGE, BUT FOOLS DESPISE WISDOM AND INSTRUCTION" - AND I
19:39 COULD QUOTE YOU, PROBABLY FIVE OTHER VERSES FROM THE BIBLE
19:43 WHERE THEY QUOTE THAT STATEMENT FROM THE BOOK OF JOB.
19:46 NOW, THE LESSON IS REALLY ABOUT - IT'S CALLED THE WRATH OF ELIHU
19:50 AND I ALMOST THINK THE LESSON COULD BE A MISNOMER BECAUSE THE
19:54 WORD TRANSLATED 'WRATH' THERE, COULD ALSO BE TRANSLATED 'THE
19:58 EXCITEMENT; THE AGITATION' AND IT'S NOT AS THOUGH ELIHU IS
20:04 ANGRY AND HE'S GOING TO START LASHING OUT AND HITTING PEOPLE,
20:07 IT'S TALKING ABOUT HIS INDIGNATION - HIS FRUSTRATION.
20:11 HE'S EXCITED TO ANSWER. YOU EVER LISTEN TO A DIALOGUE AND YOU'RE
20:16 WAITING FOR YOUR TURN TO RESPOND AND YOU GET MORE AND
20:18 MORE EXCITED AND EVEN UPSET AT THINGS THAT ARE BEING SAID THAT
20:22 MAY NOT BE TRUE? AND SO, THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING. ELIHU HAS SAT
20:26 THERE AND HE'S SOMETHING OF A MYSTERY. WELL, TELL YOU WHAT,
20:30 LET'S READ IT. GO TO JOB 32 - WE'RE GOING TO READ VERSES
20:34 1 TO 4. "SO THESE THREE MEN CEASED ANSWERING JOB," -
20:42 MATTER OF FACT, VERSES 26 THROUGH 31 IS ONE LONG RESPONSE
20:48 OF JOB; AND WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF CHAPTER 31,
20:52 IT MAKES AN INTERESTING STATEMENT IN VERSE 40 - IF YOU
20:55 LOOK AT JOB 31:40 IT SAYS, "THE WORDS OF JOB ARE
20:58 ENDED." THERE'S NO MORE DIALOGUE. NOW HOW MANY BOOK -
21:01 HOW MANY CHAPTERS IN THE BOOK OF JOB?
21:03 >>42. >>42. AND WHEN YOU GET TO THE
21:06 END OF CHAPTER 31, JOB'S DONE TALKING.
21:10 SO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE LEFT IN THESE OTHER TEN CHAPTERS, BUT
21:13 JOB IS DONE WITH HIS DIALOGUE OF DEFENSE, I SHOULD SAY.
21:19 IT SAYS, "THE WORDS OF JOB ARE ENDED."
21:21 SO WHEN THEY'VE ALL GROWN SILENT - JOB'S TALKED, HIS FRIENDS HAVE
21:24 TALKED, THEY'VE TAKEN TURNS, THEY'VE GONE AROUND, THEY'VE
21:26 COVERED THESE ISSUES OF WHY DO THE GOOD PROSPER AND WHY DO THE
21:31 - WHY DO THE BAD PROSPER AND WHY DO THE GOOD SUFFER?
21:34 AND JOB, AFTER HIS FINAL SEVERAL-CHAPTER ELOQUENT
21:41 PROFOUND DEFENSE, THEY ALL SIT THERE AND STARE AT EACH OTHER.
21:47 NOW, EVIDENTLY, THERE WAS SOMEONE ELSE SITTING THERE.
21:49 IN FACT, IT COULD BE THAT OTHERS FROM THE TOWN HAD GATHERED AND
21:53 THERE'S AN AUDIENCE LISTENING AS THESE ELDERS SPEAK.
21:57 NOW, IN AMERICA, WE HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT CULTURE WHEN IT COMES
22:02 TO CONVERSATION. IN MANY PARTS OF THE WORLD WHERE
22:06 I'VE BEEN, I'VE OBSERVED - YOU KNOW, THEY BROUGHT ME IN TO MEET
22:10 WITH THE ELDERS OF THE CHURCH OR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
22:12 I'VE GONE TO MEET PRESIDENTS AND VICE PRESIDENTS OF COUNTRIES AND
22:15 I ACTUALLY WAS IN AFRICA ONCE, VISITING THE VICE PRESIDENT OF
22:18 CAMEROON AND THE SECRETARY SAID, KNOWING WE'RE AMERICANS THEY
22:24 SAID, 'NOW, IN AFRICA, WHEN YOU COME IN AND YOU MEET THE VICE
22:27 PRESIDENT, YOU'LL SIT DOWN WHEN HE SITS DOWN.
22:30 THEN HE WILL SPEAK. YOU DON'T SPEAK UNTIL HE IS DONE
22:34 SPEAKING.' AND THAT, REALLY, IS A RULE
22:38 IN MANY CULTURES OF THE WORLD - IS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO
22:42 HAVE THE PROMINENT POSITION, OR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE POSITION
22:46 OF AUTHORITY OR AGE, YOU LET THEM SPEAK AND ALL THE OTHERS
22:51 YOU KEEP SILENT. DON'T SPEAK.
22:53 ANY OF YOU REMEMBER THE OLD ADAGE 'CHILDREN ARE TO BE SEEN
22:56 AND NOT HEARD? ANYONE REMEMBER HEARING THAT?
23:00 AND WHEN, YOU KNOW, THE ELDERS WERE SITTING AROUND IN THE ROOM
23:03 TALKING, KIDS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO INTERRUPT AND PIPE IN.
23:06 THEY'D SAY, 'SHHH, THAT'S RUDE. THE ELDERS ARE SPEAKING.
23:09 YOU LISTEN. YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING.
23:12 DON'T TALK. HOW MUCH DO YOU KNOW?
23:13 YOU'RE EIGHT YEARS OLD.' AND, YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT WAS THE
23:17 ATTITUDE IN THE EAST. HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN TO
23:19 COUNTRIES YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT?
23:21 IT WAS VERY MUCH THAT WAY, THAT YOU SAT AND YOU LET THE ELDERS
23:25 SPEAK. NOW THESE ARE GREAT MEN OF THE
23:27 EAST. JOB IS THE GREATEST MAN OF THE
23:29 EAST, AND HIS THREE FRIENDS, THEY ARE GREAT MEN - LEADERS OF
23:34 OTHER TRIBES, AND THEY'RE HAVING THIS GREAT DEBATE AND THEY'RE
23:37 TALKING ABOUT THESE PROFOUND THEMES AND THERE MAY HAVE BEEN
23:39 OTHER PEOPLE FROM THE TOWN SITTING AROUND LISTENING.
23:41 ANOTHER YOUNGER MAN, BUT ALSO AN ELDER, BUT HE'S SITTING AND HE'S
23:47 LISTENING - HIS NAME IS ELIHU - HE'S NEVER MENTIONED UNTIL NOW,
23:51 AND HE'S NOT MENTIONED LATER, SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT JOB AND HIS
23:53 THREE FRIENDS, THERE WAS THIS OTHER CHARACTER.
23:56 AND YOU READ IN CHAPTER 32, VERSE 1, "SO THESE THREE MEN
24:01 CEASED ANSWERING JOB, BECAUSE HE WAS RIGHTEOUS IN HIS OWN EYES."
24:05 NOW, WAS JOB WRONG TO BE RIGHTEOUS IN HIS OWN EYES?
24:09 OR DID GOD LATER SAY - IT'S INTERESTING, GOD SAYS TO JOB,
24:13 'DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU'RE RIGHTEOUS?'
24:15 AND JOB IS SORT OF REBUKED BY THE LORD, BUT THEN LATER, GOD
24:18 TELLS HIS FRIENDS, 'JOB SPOKE WHAT WAS RIGHT AND YOU DID NOT.'
24:23 SO JOB IS A TYPE OF CHRIST AND HE WAS RIGHTEOUS.
24:25 HE WAS A GODLY MAN. HOW'S THE BOOK BEGIN?
24:27 HE LOVED GOOD AND HATED EVIL. THERE WAS NO MAN LIKE HIM -
24:31 A PERFECT AND UPRIGHT MAN. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE
24:33 TESTIMONY OF THE BOOK. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS
24:36 STRUGGLE WITH THE IDEA OF SOMEONE WHO'S RIGHTEOUS
24:38 THAT KNOWS IT. HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED HOW
24:42 PERFECT YOU HAVE TO BE TO BE SAVED?
24:44 AND HOW PERFECT WILL WE BE IN THE LAST DAYS?
24:47 IF YOU GET TO THE PLACE WHERE YOU'RE AWARE OF YOUR PERFECTION,
24:49 YOU HAVEN'T REACHED IT YET. AUTOMATICALLY YOU'RE PROBABLY
24:54 DISQUALIFIED IF YOU THINK, 'I THINK I'M PERFECT NOW.' BUT
24:59 JOB, HE'S AN EXCEPTION HERE. ALRIGHT, "SO THESE MEN CEASED
25:03 ANSWERING JOB, BECAUSE HE WAS RIGHTEOUS IN HIS OWN EYES.
25:06 THEN THE WRATH - THE AGITATION - OF ELIHU, THE SON OF BARACHEL
25:11 THE BUZITE, OF THE FAMILY OF RAM, WAS AROUSED AGAINST JOB;
25:17 HIS WRATH WAS AROUSED BECAUSE HE JUSTIFIED HIMSELF RATHER THAN
25:20 GOD. ALSO AGAINST HIS THREE FRIENDS"
25:23 - SO HE'S NOT ONLY UPSET WITH JOB JUSTIFYING HIMSELF, HE'S
25:26 ALSO UPSET WITH HIS FRIENDS - "WAS AROUSED, BECAUSE THEY HAD
25:30 FOUND NO ANSWER, AND YET HAD CONDEMNED JOB.
25:33 NOW BECAUSE THEY WERE YEARS OLDER THAN HE, ELIHU HAD WAITED
25:38 TO SPEAK..." - NOW THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT
25:40 POINT AND YOU CAN READ HERE, IF YOU GO DOWN TO VERSE 6 -
25:48 OH, WAIT, YOU KNOW WHAT? LET ME JUST EXPLAIN SOMETHING
25:50 HERE - AND THIS WOULD BE UNDER THE SECTION ELIHU'S
25:54 DEFENSE OF GOD . NOW, DO WE NEED TO DEFEND GOD?
26:00 I THINK THAT - WELL, YOU WANT TO SPEAK IN THE DEFENSE OF TRUTH,
26:04 BUT I REMEMBER THAT KING HENRY THE VIII LIVED DURING THE TIME
26:09 WHEN THEY ACTUALLY HAD COURT JESTERS - YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT
26:12 COURT JESTERS - YOU KNOW, THEY'VE ALWAYS GOT THEM DRESSED
26:15 UP LIKE CLOWNS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE, BUT IT IS
26:18 TRUE THAT SOME OF THE MONARCHS HAD FRIENDS IN THE COURT AND
26:22 THEY HAD THEM THERE BECAUSE OF THEIR GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR TO
26:24 ALWAYS CHEER UP THE KING. YOU DON'T WANT THE KING SAD.
26:28 BAD THINGS HAPPEN WHEN THE KING IS UNHAPPY.
26:30 AND SO, HENRY VIII HAD THIS COURT JESTER, BUT HE WAS, YOU
26:34 KNOW, A PRETTY SHREWD FELLOW AND HENRY VIII RECEIVED A MEDAL BACK
26:38 THEN, BEFORE THE CHURCH SPLIT FROM ROME - THE CHURCH OF
26:40 ENGLAND SPLIT FROM ROME. THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND WAS PART
26:44 OF ROME IN THE BEGINNING OF KING HENRY VIII BUT WHEN THEY WOULD
26:48 NOT APPROVE HIS FINAL DIVORCE, THERE WAS A SPLIT.
26:52 WELL, UP UNTIL THAT TIME THE CHURCH WAS VERY HAPPY WITH KING
26:54 HENRY AND THEY GAVE HIM A MEDAL AND THEY CALLED HIM 'THE
26:57 DEFENDER OF THE TRUTH' AND THIS AWARD WAS MADE BY THE CATHOLIC
27:02 CHURCH. THEY BROUGHT IT IN WITH ALL THIS
27:03 POMP AND SAID, 'YOUR MAJESTY, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS DECLARED
27:09 YOU THE DEFENDER OF THE TRUTH.' AND THE COURT JESTER SAID, 'GOOD
27:13 KING HENRY,' - HE SAID - 'I WILL DEFEND YOU AND YOU DEFEND ME
27:16 BUT, BELIEVE ME, THE TRUTH WITH DEFEND ITSELF.'
27:20 AND SO, GOD DOESN'T REALLY NEED US TO DEFEND HIM.
27:23 IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BULLY GOD AND
27:26 YOU'RE GOING TO STICK UP FOR HIM.
27:27 BECAUSE GOD IS WELL ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF.
27:31 YOU KNOW, THERE'S TIMES YOU WANT TO STAND UP FOR TRUTH - AND THIS
27:33 IS WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH - WITH ELIHU HERE.
27:37 SO WHO IS HE? IT TELLS US THAT HE IS A BUZITE.
27:42 GO - IF YOU HAVE YOUR BIBLES, DON'T LOST YOUR PAGE IN JOB, BUT
27:44 GO TO GENESIS 22, VERSE 20. AND IT SAYS, "NOW IT CAME TO
27:51 PASS AFTER THESE THINGS THAT IT WAS TOLD ABRAHAM, SAYING,
27:54 'INDEED MILCAH ALSO HAS BORNE CHILDREN TO YOUR BROTHER NAHOR:
27:59 HUZ HIS FIRSTBORN, BUZ HIS BROTHER," - HOW'D YOU LIKE TO
28:03 HAVE A COUPLE OF KIDS NAMED HUZ AND BUZ? (LAUGHTER)
28:07 I MEAN, I GET MIXED UP WITH MY KIDS. I CALL DANIEL NATHAN AND
28:10 NATHAN DANIEL. YEAH, I NEVER GET THE BOYS AND
28:11 THE GIRLS MIXED UP, BUT I GET THE BOYS MIXED UP.
28:14 AND THEIR NAMES DON'T REALLY SOUND THAT ALIKE, BUT IF YOU'VE
28:16 GOT A HUZ AND A BUZ AND YOU'RE MAD AND YOU WANT TO CALL ONE OF
28:19 THEM, YOU'RE GOING TO GO, 'HUZ - BUZ - BUZ - HUZ - HUZ - BUZ' -
28:21 YOU'RE GOING TO GET ALL MIXED UP.
28:23 I REMEMBER WHEN I LIVED ON THE NAVAJO RESERVATION, THIS ONE
28:27 FAMILY HAD THREE BOYS THEY NAMED EDWARD, EDWIN, AND EDUARDO -
28:34 SOMETHING LIKE THAT - THREE EDS. AND I THOUGHT, 'BOY, THAT'S GOT
28:39 TO GET CONFUSING WHEN YOU'RE CALLING THEM.' ANYWAY -
28:43 >>JOB WAS IN THE LAND OF UZ. >>WELL, YEAH, UZ AND BUZ AND HUZ
28:46 - IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, THIS IS ACTUALLY A DIFFERENT
28:48 PLACE - "HUZ HIS FIRSTBORN, BUZ HIS BROTHER, KEMUEL THE FATHER
28:54 OF ARAM," AND SO ELIHU IS RELATED TO ABRAHAM. AND SO,
29:01 EVERYBODY, WE'VE LEARNED, SO FAR IS RELATED TO ABRAHAM AND ESAU.
29:06 THE NAME ELIHU MEANS 'HE IS MY GOD' OR 'HE IS GOD HIMSELF'.
29:12 WHENEVER YOU SEE THE NAME 'EL' IN THE ANCIENT ARAMAIC, THAT
29:15 MEANS 'GOD' - THAT'S WHERE YOU GET THE WORD 'ELOHIM' - LIKE
29:19 RACH EL , MICHA EL , EL IEZER, EL IJAH, EL ISHA - EL ALWAYS WAS -
29:23 GOD WAS PART OF THEIR NAME IN THERE, SO YOU WOULD FIND THAT A
29:26 LOT AT THE BEGINNING OR THE END OF A NAME. AND SO, YOU CAN READ,
29:33 NOW, SOME OF THE STATEMENTS HE SAYS IN VERSE 34:15, "THEREFORE
29:37 LISTEN TO ME, YOU MEN OF UNDERSTANDING: FAR BE IT FROM
29:42 GOD TO DO WICKEDNESS, AND FROM THE ALMIGHTY TO COMMIT INIQUITY.
29:46 FOR HE REPAYS MAN ACCORDING TO HIS WORK, AND MAKES MAN TO FIND
29:50 A REWARD ACCORDING TO HIS WAY. SURELY GOD WILL NEVER DO
29:54 WICKEDLY, NOR WILL THE ALMIGHTY PERVERT JUSTICE.
29:57 WHO GAVE HIM CHARGE OVER THE EARTH?
30:00 OR WHO APPOINTED HIM OVER THE WHOLE WORLD?
30:02 IF HE SHOULD SET HIS HEART ON IT, IF HE SHOULD GATHER TO
30:05 HIMSELF HIS SPIRIT AND HIS BREATH, ALL FLESH WOULD PERISH
30:09 TOGETHER," - NOT JUST MAN, ALL FLESH. IF GOD SHOULD RECALL -
30:14 YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT AUTO RECALLS, SOME PRODUCT RECALLS?
30:19 IT'S PRETTY SERIOUS WHEN YOU'VE GOT, LIKE, A BABY PRODUCT
30:21 RECALL, BUT WHAT IF GOD SHOULD RECALL HIS SPIRIT?
30:27 IS WHAT ELIHU IS SAYING - ALL FLESH - NOT JUST PEOPLE -
30:29 ANIMALS - ALL FLESH WOULD PERISH TOGETHER - "AND MAN WOULD RETURN
30:33 TO DUST." THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT SOLOMON
30:37 SAYS, 'THE SPIRIT RETURNS TO GOD WHO GAVE IT AND THE BODY
30:40 RETURNS TO THE DUST. AND SO YOU WONDER IF SOLOMON WAS
30:43 THINKING ABOUT THIS VERSE AND QUOTING FROM ELIHU HERE.
30:46 NOW, HE HAS TO SPEAK. HE'S GOT ALL THESE THOUGHTS HE
30:50 WANTS TO SHARE AND HE SHARES QUITE A BIT BECAUSE ELIHU,
30:53 NOW, TALKS FOR FIVE CHAPTERS. THIS YOUNG MAN WHO APPEARS OUT
30:57 OF NOWHERE - AND SOME OF THE SCHOLARS THINK, 'WHO
31:01 WROTE THE BOOK OF JOB?' IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NOT JOB,
31:04 BECAUSE IT'S BEING WRITTEN ABOUT HIM, AND THEY'VE OFTEN THOUGHT,
31:07 WELL, MAYBE IT WAS ELIHU, WHO'S SITTING, LISTENING TO THIS AND
31:11 HE FINALLY INSERTS HIMSELF AS A HERO.
31:13 HE WRITES AS THOUGH IT'S ALL ABOUT JOB AND HIS THREE FRIENDS
31:15 BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT TO PUT HIMSELF IN THAT CAMP, BUT HE
31:19 COULD HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK, WE DON'T
31:21 KNOW. THAT'S JUST ONE THEORY.
31:23 BUT HE SAYS - IF YOU GO TO CHAPTER 32, VERSE 18 - HE SAYS,
31:31 "FOR I AM FULL OF WORDS; THE SPIRIT WITHIN ME COMPELS ME.
31:35 INDEED MY BELLY IS LIKE WINE THAT HAS NO VENT;" - YOU KNOW,
31:39 WHEN WINE SAT IN THE SKIN IT BEGAN TO EXPAND.
31:41 JESUS TALKS ABOUT IF YOU PUT NEW WINE IN OLD WINESKINS, THE
31:45 FERMENTATION IN THE OLD WINESKINS WILL BEGIN TO ACTIVATE
31:49 THE YEAST IN THE GRAPE JUICE AND IT'LL START TO EXPAND AND -
31:54 "...LIKE NEW WINESKINS. I WILL SPEAK, THAT I MAY FIND
31:58 RELIEF;" - YOU EVER - YOU EVER HEARD SOMEONE SAY, 'LET
32:00 ME JUST TALK AND VENT'? THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE'S SAYING
32:05 - 'IF I DON'T SPEAK - I'VE GOT TO VENT.
32:07 I'VE BEEN LISTENING NOW FOR 31 CHAPTERS TO YOU GUYS.
32:12 I'VE GOT TO SAY SOMETHING NOW.' - "I MUST OPEN MY LIPS AND
32:15 ANSWER." AND THEN HE GOES INTO IT, BUT HE
32:20 SAYS, 'I'VE WAITED BECAUSE YOU WERE MY ELDERS, BUT NOW, YOU'RE
32:24 QUIET, CAN I HAVE A TURN? I JUST CAN'T HOLD IN ANYMORE.
32:28 SO HE'S NOT ANGRY AS MUCH AS HE JUST FEELS LIKE YOU'RE ALL
32:31 MISSING SOMETHING HERE ABOUT GOD.
32:34 AND IT'S INTERESTING THAT LATER, WHEN THE LORD TALKS TO JOB - AND
32:39 I KNOW, WE'LL PROBABLY COVER THIS LATER, BUT I HAVE TO SAY IT
32:41 NOW ALSO - AND JOB OFFERED SACRIFICES AS YOUR THREE FRIENDS
32:45 DID NOT SAY WHAT WAS RIGHT, I WANT YOU TO OFFER SACRIFICE FOR
32:48 THEM, BUT GOD NEVER SAYS ELIHU SAID WHAT WAS WRONG.
32:52 GOD NEVER COMMENTS ON ELIHU'S COMMENTS.
32:56 SO HE'S REALLY A MYSTERIOUS PERSON WHO SORT OF JUST APPEARS
32:59 OUT OF NOWHERE IN THE BOOK. HE TALKS FOR FIVE
33:01 CHAPTERS - DISAPPEARS. NO OTHER COMMENT IS MADE IN
33:04 THE POSTLUDE ABOUT ELIHU. AND SO, THEN YOU READ HIS
33:11 DISCOURSE AND SOME OF THE STATEMENTS YOU FIND ARE QUOTED
33:14 BY OTHER BIBLE WRITERS EVEN IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.
33:17 AND, BY THE WAY, YOU EVER REMEMBER WHERE PAUL SAID,
33:19 'WOE UNTO ME IF I PREACH NOT CHRIST'?
33:22 PAUL SAID, 'I'VE GOT THE GOSPEL INSIDE AND I JUST FEEL LIKE I'M
33:24 BURSTING - I'VE GOT TO TELL SOMEBODY.' AND SO THIS IDEA OF
33:29 HAVING A MESSAGE ALL COOPED UP AND YOU'VE JUST GOT TO LET IT
33:32 OUT, IT MAY FIRST APPEAR HERE IN ELIHU [JOB].
33:36 AND SO, THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE'LL LOOK AT.
33:38 IF YOU GO TO CHAPTER - IT SAYS - OH YEAH, THE PRINCIPLE WHERE HE
33:47 SAYS HE WITHDRAWS HIS SPIRIT AND MAN PERISHES AND RETURNS TO THE
33:51 DUST. NOW WHAT WAS WRITTEN FIRST, JOB OR GENESIS?
33:56 >>JOB. >>IT'S A CONFUSING QUESTION
33:59 BECAUSE GENESIS HAPPENS FIRST, BUT JOB WAS PROBABLY RECORDED
34:04 FIRST, BY MOSES, IN THE LAND OF MIDIAN.
34:07 BUT, IN GENESIS, IT ALSO SAYS, 'IN THE SWEAT OF YOUR FACE YOU
34:10 WILL EAT BREAD UNTIL YOU RETURN TO THE DUST FOR DUST YOU ARE AND
34:15 UNTO DUST YOU'LL RETURN.' THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT ELIHU JUST SAID.
34:19 YOU CAN READ IN ECCLESIASTES 12:7, WHERE SOLOMON SAID, "THEN
34:23 THE DUST WILL RETURN TO THE EARTH AS IT WAS AND THE SPIRIT
34:27 WILL RETURN TO GOD WHO GAVE IT." AND WE READ WHERE ELIHU SAID
34:33 THAT IF GOD SHOULD WITHDRAW HIS SPIRIT, ALL FLESH WOULD PERISH.
34:37 YOU READ IN ECCLESIASTES WHERE SOLOMON SAID - BY THE WAY, ONE
34:40 OF YOU IS GOING TO BE READING FOR ME IN JUST A MOMENT, HEBREWS
34:42 4:13, OKAY? SOLOMON SAYS, 'FOR WHAT HAPPENS
34:47 TO THE SONS OF MEN HAPPENS TO ANIMALS.
34:50 ONE THING BEFALLS THEM - AS ONE DIES, SO DIES THE OTHER.
34:53 SURELY THEY ALL HAVE ONE BREATH.'
34:56 NOW THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. IT SAYS THAT THE SPIRIT RETURNS
34:59 TO GOD WHO GAVE IT AND THE BODY RETURNS TO THE DUST.
35:03 IS IT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHTEOUS OR THE WICKED OR IS
35:06 SOLOMON SAYING, 'THAT'S A PRINCIPLE FOR ALL LIVING
35:08 THINGS THAT HAVE THE SPIRIT OF GOD.'?
35:10 YOU SEE, SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT THAT VERSE IS SAYING, 'IF YOU'RE
35:13 GOOD, WHEN YOU DIE, A LITTLE GOOD GHOST POPS OUT AND GOES TO
35:16 BE WITH GOD.' HAVEN'T YOU HEARD IT INTERPRETED THAT WAY?
35:19 BUT IF YOU REALLY READ WHAT SOLOMON IS SAYING, HE'S USING
35:22 THE WORD 'SPIRIT' AS THE BREATH OF LIFE.
35:24 HE'S SAYING, 'THE BREATH OF LIFE OF ALL CREATURES RETURNS TO GOD,
35:28 GOOD OR BAD.' THERE'S A RECALL ON THE BREATH.
35:33 AS ELIHU SAID, 'THE ELEMENTS RETURN TO THE DUST WHERE THEY
35:36 WERE. ALL GO TO ONE PLACE.
35:40 ALL ARE FROM THE DUST AND ALL RETURN TO THE DUST.
35:43 IS THAT CLEAR? >>YES.
35:45 >>IT'S NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST THE GOOD OR JUST THE BAD; JUST
35:47 THE HUMANS OR JUST THE ANIMALS, IT'S TALKING ABOUT ALL THE
35:50 BREATH. IN JOB 34 - SAME PRINCIPLE - "IN
35:55 A MOMENT THEY DIE, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT; THE PEOPLE ARE
35:58 SHAKEN AND PASS AWAY; THE MIGHTY ARE TAKEN
36:01 AWAY WITHOUT A HAND. FOR HIS EYES ARE ON THE WAYS OF
36:04 MAN, AND HE SEES ALL HIS STEPS." GOD SEES EVERYTHING.
36:09 HERE'S ANOTHER PRINCIPLE FROM ELIHU - THAT WAS CHAPTER 34 -
36:12 AND WE'VE GOT A NEW TESTAMENT SIMILAR VERSE - HEBREWS, PLEASE.
36:15 >>HEBREWS 4:13, "AND THERE IS NO CREATURE HIDDEN FROM HIS SIGHT,
36:20 BUT ALL THINGS ARE NAKED AND OPEN TO THE EYES OF HIM TO WHOM
36:23 WE MUST GIVE ACCOUNT." >>NOTHING IS HIDDEN FROM GOD.
36:27 GOD SEES ALL THINGS, AMEN? AND YOU CAN READ IN JOB 36 -
36:32 STILL CONTINUING THE DIALOGUE OF ELIHU, "BEHOLD, GOD IS MIGHTY,
36:37 BUT DESPISES NO ONE; HE IS MIGHTY IN STRENGTH
36:40 OF UNDERSTANDING. HE DOES NOT PRESERVE THE LIFE OF THE
36:44 WICKED, BUT GIVES JUSTICE TO THE OPPRESSED. HE DOES NOT WITHDRAW
36:47 HIS EYES FROM THE RIGHTEOUS; BUT THEY ARE ON THE THRONE WITH
36:50 KINGS, FOR HE HAS SEATED THEM FOREVER, AND THEY ARE EXALTED."
36:54 AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT ONE OF THE STRUGGLES THAT'S
37:01 HAPPENING THROUGH THE BOOK OF JOB IS THE TIME FACTOR.
37:07 THERE MAY BE TIMES WHEN RIGHTEOUS SUFFER, BUT DAVID
37:11 SAID, 'I WAS YOUNG AND I'M NOW OLD' - AND I DON'T REMEMBER THAT
37:14 VERSE - IF SOMEONE REMEMBERS IT YOU CAN CALL IT OUT TO ME.
37:17 'I WAS YOUNG AND I'M NOW OLD, BUT I'VE NOT SEEN THE RIGHTEOUS
37:20 FORSAKEN OR HIS SEED BEGGING BREAD.' THAT'S IN PSALMS.
37:25 AND HAVE WE NEVER SEEN A GOOD PERSON HUNGRY?
37:30 BUT IT DOESN'T LAST. GOD - THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL
37:33 WERE HUNGRY IN THE WILDERNESS, BUT IN TIME HE SUPPLIED FOR
37:37 THEM. HE COMES THROUGH. AND SO, IT'S A PRINCIPLE THAT,
37:40 IN THE LONG RUN, GOD WILL ALWAYS COME THROUGH FOR HIS OWN.
37:43 AND SOME WOULD SAY, 'WHAT ABOUT THE MARTYRS THAT SUFFERED AND
37:47 DIED? HE DIDN'T COME THROUGH FOR THE
37:49 RIGHTEOUS MARTYRS.' OH YEAH HE DID. WHAT'S THE NEXT THING A
37:52 MARTYR'S AWARE OF WHEN THEY DIE FOR THEIR FAITH?
37:56 IT'S THE RESURRECTION OF BEING IN THE PRESENCE OF GOD.
37:59 AND SO, YOU KNOW, GOD IS GOOD AND THIS IS WHAT THE THEME IS
38:04 THAT'S BEING BORNE OUT HERE. "AND THEY ARE EXALTED."
38:08 ALRIGHT, THEN IT GOES ONTO THE IRRATIONALITY OF EVIL AND WE'VE
38:14 GOT A FEW DIFFERENT VERSES HERE. IF YOU LOOK IN JOB 9, VERSE 10 -
38:19 THIS IS UNDER THE SECTION CALLED THE IRRATIONALITY OF EVIL .
38:22 FIRST OF ALL, HOW WISE WAS LUCIFER BEFORE HIS FALL?
38:32 >>VERY. >>YOU KNOW, HE WAS THE
38:39 BRIGHTEST OF GOD'S CREATIONS. BUT THE BIBLE SAYS, 'THE FEAR
38:43 OF THE LORD IS THE BEGINNING OF WISDOM.' WHICH MEANS, WHEN
38:46 YOU CEASE TO FEAR GOD, YOU'RE DISQUALIFIED WITH WISDOM.
38:51 HOW WISE COULD IT BE FOR THE CREATURE TO THINK HE COULD TAKE
38:56 OVER THE CREATOR? NOW, TO YOU AND I, MAYBE
39:00 THE DEVIL HAD SOME INSIDE INFORMATION WE DON'T KNOW.
39:03 MAYBE HE THOUGHT GOD WAS VULNERABLE IN A WAY WE CAN'T
39:05 COMPREHEND. BUT SOMEHOW, HE THOUGHT HE
39:08 WAS GOING TO OVERTHROW GOD. NOW, HE ESPECIALLY HATES JESUS,
39:13 BUT WHO CREATED ALL THINGS? >>JESUS.
39:15 >>ALL THINGS THAT WERE MADE WERE MADE BY CHRIST.
39:18 IS LUCIFER A CREATOR OR A CREATION?
39:22 >>CREATION. >>CREATION.
39:23 SO WHO CREATED THE GOOD ANGEL, LUCIFER?
39:26 >>JESUS. >>JESUS, RIGHT?
39:28 JESUS CREATED ALL THINGS. SO THE IDEA THAT YOU COULD
39:32 OVERTHROW YOUR CREATOR, TO ME, DOESN'T SEEM RATIONAL.
39:37 IT REALLY SEEMS FOOLISH. WOULDN'T YOU THINK?
39:41 TO - I MEAN, WHO WOULD EVER WANT TO SAY, 'I THINK I CAN OUT BOX
39:44 GOD.' IF HE'S - ONE OF THE DEFINITIONS OF GOD IS OMNIPOTENT
39:50 - HE'S ALL-POWERFUL - WOULDN'T IT BE FOOLISH TO THINK?
39:54 ANYWAY, EVIL IS IRRATIONAL. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD ABOUT THE
40:01 ATTITUDE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE REALIZES THEY'RE GOING
40:04 TO LOSE THE CHESS GAME, THEY KNOCK OVER THE BOARD?
40:08 THEY THROW THE - THEY SWIPE IT EVERYWHERE AS THOUGH THAT'S
40:13 GOING TO CHANGE THE RESULT. OR THE IDEA THAT 'IF I'M GOING
40:17 TO GO DOWN, I'M GOING TO TAKE AS MANY WITH ME AS I CAN.' WHAT
40:23 IS THE ATTITUDE OF THE DEVIL? HE HAS - "HE KNOWS HE HAS BUT A
40:27 SHORT TIME" - REVELATION CHAPTER 12 - SO HE COMES DOWN WITH GREAT
40:30 WRATH AND HE FIGURES, 'IF I GO OUT, I'M GOING TO TAKE AS MANY
40:34 GOOD PEOPLE WITH ME AS I CAN.' NOW IS THAT RATIONAL?
40:39 WELL HE IS - HE'S EVIL. HE'S IRRATIONAL.
40:42 SIN WILL MAKE YOU STUPID. IT WILL, YEAH. PEOPLE, WHEN THEY
40:50 LOSE THEIR TEMPERS, DON'T THEY DO IRRATIONAL THINGS?
40:53 AND HAVEN'T WE ALL HEARD STORIES OF PEOPLE THAT WERE JUST BLESSED
41:00 AND PROSPEROUS AND THEN THEY DID SOMETHING SINFUL AND THEY LOST
41:04 THEIR REPUTATION - THEY LOST EVERYTHING - AND YOU THINK,
41:06 'WOW, THEY SACRIFICED EVERYTHING FOR THE DUMBEST THINGS.'
41:11 YOU HEAR ABOUT MINISTRIES AND MINISTERS - EFFECTIVE, POPULAR,
41:18 SUCCESSFUL, PROSPEROUS - AND THEN THE EVANGELIST, HE'S GOING
41:23 OUT AND HAVING SECRET RENDEZVOUS WITH GIRLS HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW
41:29 EXCEPT FOR ONE NIGHT. AND YOU THINK ABOUT THAT IS THE
41:32 DUMBEST THING IN THE WORLD - TO SACRIFICE ALL THAT INFLUENCE
41:38 THAT YOU'VE HAD, WHICH, OSTENSIBLY, IS FOR GOOD,
41:42 FOR SOMETHING SO FOOLISH. SIN WILL MAKE YOU STUPID.
41:48 YOU CAN READ HERE - JOB 9:10, "HE DOES GREAT WONDERS [THINGS]
41:51 PAST FINDING OUT, YES, WONDERS WITHOUT NUMBER."
41:54 JOB 40:2 - SOMEONE'S GOING TO READ ROMANS 9:20 FOR ME IN JUST
41:58 A MOMENT. JOB 40:2, "SHALL THE ONE WHO
42:02 CONTENDS WITH THE ALMIGHTY CORRECT HIM?
42:05 HE WHO REBUKES GOD, LET HIM ANSWER IT."
42:09 GO AHEAD, YOU CAN READ ROMANS 9:20 FOR US.
42:11 >>"BUT INDEED, O MAN, WHO ARE YOU TO REPLY AGAINST GOD?
42:15 WILL THE THING FORMED SAY TO HIM WHO FORMED IT, 'WHY HAVE YOU
42:18 MADE ME LIKE THIS?'" >>WHO WROTE ROMANS?
42:21 >>PAUL. >>YOU THINK PAUL READ THAT
42:24 VERSE WE JUST READ IN JOB? SHALL THE ONE CONTEND WITH
42:29 THE ALMIGHTY CORRECT HIM? WHO REBUKES GOD, LET HIM ANSWER
42:32 IT.' ARE WE GOING TO REBUKE GOD? WILL THE CREATION ARGUE WITH THE
42:36 CREATOR AND SAY, 'OH, LORD, I THINK YOU MADE A MISTAKE.'?
42:39 AND, YOU KNOW, I MEET PEOPLE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND THE
42:43 SUBJECT OF THE ORIGIN OF SIN. THEY THINK GOD MADE A DEVIL.
42:48 OR THEY THINK GOD MADE A DEFECTIVE ANGEL.
42:52 WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT GOD? DOES GOD MAKE MISTAKES
42:55 LIKE THAT? AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE'S
42:58 PEOPLE THAT THINK THAT GOD MIS-MADE ME.
43:05 I DON'T MEAN ME, I MEAN THEY SAY THAT ABOUT THEMSELVES.
43:08 (LAUGHTER) YEAH. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M THINKING.
43:14 I MAY AS WELL JUST TELL YOU WHAT I'M THINKING.
43:15 PEOPLE ARE SAYING, 'GOD MADE A MISTAKE.
43:17 I WAS SUPPOSED BE A GIRL/I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A BOY AND HE GOT
43:20 MIXED UP. (LAUGHTER) DOES GOD MAKE THOSE KIND OF MISTAKES?
43:24 >>NO. >>NO. 1 CORINTHIANS 13:9 AND 10,
43:29 "FOR NOW WE KNOW IN PART AND WE PROPHESY IN PART.
43:33 BUT WHEN THAT WHICH IS PERFECT HAS COME, THEN THAT WHICH IS IN
43:37 PART WILL BE DONE AWAY." YOU KNOW, ONE REASON, RIGHT NOW,
43:40 WE SOMETIMES MISUNDERSTAND - WE TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING
43:43 ON, IS BECAUSE WE CANNOT SEE BEHIND THE VEIL.
43:47 THERE'S JUST SO MUCH WE DON'T UNDERSTAND.
43:49 MATTER OF FACT, THERE'S MORE THAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAN WE
43:53 DO UNDERSTAND. AND SO, THIS WHOLE SECTION ABOUT
43:56 THE IRRATIONALITY OF EVIL IS TALKING ABOUT 'WE DON'T KNOW' -
44:00 THERE'S SO MUCH WE DON'T KNOW. ROMANS 11:33 - PAUL, AGAIN, "OH,
44:05 THE DEPTH OF THE RICHES BOTH OF THE WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE OF GOD!
44:09 HOW UNSEARCHABLE ARE HIS JUDGMENTS AND HIS WAYS PAST
44:13 FINDING OUT!" IT'S LIKE THAT PASSAGE WE READ
44:16 IN OUR MEMORY VERSE, 'THE HEAVENS ARE HIGH ABOVE THE
44:19 EARTH, SO ARE MY WAYS ABOVE YOUR WAYS AND MY THOUGHTS THAN YOUR
44:23 THOUGHTS.' SO HOW HIGH ABOVE THE EARTH ARE THE HEAVENS?
44:30 I DON'T KNOW HOW THE ASTRONOMERS DO THIS.
44:32 I HEAR THEY USE CALCULUS THAT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT I CAN DO,
44:35 BUT THEY SAY THAT THE NEAREST STAR TO EARTH - IT'S EITHER
44:38 ALPHA CENTURI OR ALPHA PROXIMI - I THINK IT'S ALPHA PROXIMI -
44:42 PROXIMI MEANS 'CLOSE' - AND THEY SAY THAT'S FOUR LIGHT YEARS -
44:46 FIRST STAR - OUT OF THE ZILLIONS - UNNUMBERED STARS OUT THERE.
44:50 THE CLOSEST ONE WE CAN CALCULATE IS FOUR LIGHT YEARS AWAY,
44:54 MEANING, IF YOU TRAVELED THE SPEED OF LIGHT - IF YOU TRAVELED
44:57 THE SPEED OF LIGHT, YOU'D BE AT THE MOON IN ABOUT 9 MINUTES.
45:00 IF YOU TRAVELED THE SPEED OF LIGHT 186,000 MILES - NO, NO -
45:04 YOU'D BE AT THE SUN - THE 9 WAS - THANK YOU - THE MOON, I THINK,
45:07 IS LIKE 23,000 MILES AWAY - IF - AND THE MOON IS, WHAT?
45:12 9 MILLION MILES AWAY. IF YOU TRAVEL THE SPEED OF LIGHT
45:16 - 186,000 - DID I GET THAT WRONG AGAIN?
45:19 >>YES. >>WHAT'D I SAY?
45:20 >>9 MILLION. >>HOW MANY MILLION?
45:23 >>9. >>IT'S NINETY MILLION.
45:26 >>93 MILLION. >>93 MILLION. (LAUGHTER)
45:29 AND SIX INCHES. (LAUGHTER) THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
45:34 >>YOU STAND CORRECTED. >>I STAND CORRECTED ALL THE
45:37 TIME. MATTER OF FACT, WHENEVER I'M STANDING I'M USUALLY
45:39 CORRECTED. (LAUGHTER) BUT HERE YOU'VE GOT 186,000 MILES PER
45:47 SECOND; TRAVELING THAT SPEED, IT TAKES YOU FOUR YEARS TO GET TO
45:52 THE FIRST STAR. SO THEN GOD SAYS, 'AS THE
45:55 HEAVENS ARE HIGH ABOVE THE EARTH, SO ARE MY WAYS ABOVE YOUR
45:58 WAYS.' HOW MUCH HIGHER ARE GOD'S WAYS THAN OUR WAYS?
46:02 SO WHATEVER IT IS WE THINK WE KNOW ABOUT GOD, COMPARED TO WHAT
46:06 WE CAN KNOW ABOUT GOD, AND COMPARED - PARDON ME (COUGHS)
46:14 COMPARED TO WHAT WE WILL KNOW ABOUT GOD WHEN WE LIVE FOREVER -
46:19 HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT, 'YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY, AFTER I LIVE
46:21 FOR A BILLION YEARS, I'LL PRETTY WELL HAVE GOD FIGURED OUT.'?
46:24 NO, HE IS PAST FINDING OUT - NOT ONLY FOR US IN THIS CONDITION -
46:29 YOU KNOW, WE LIVE THREE-SCORE AND TEN YEARS, WE KNOW ALMOST
46:32 NOTHING ABOUT GOD. WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW
46:34 EVERYTHING ABOUT GOD WHEN WE LIVE FOREVER.
46:37 SO HOW MUCH DO WE NOT KNOW NOW?
46:41 THE LONGER YOU LIVE, THE MORE YOU KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW.
46:45 THERE IS A TIME - THE ZENITH - YOU CRESCENDO AS A TEENAGER WHEN
46:48 YOU THINK YOU'VE GOT IT ALL FIGURED OUT.
46:50 AND THEN, AS YOU MATURE, YOU START REALIZING, 'WELL, MAYBE I
46:53 DON'T HAVE IT.' AND THEN, THERE'S A REAL EPIPHANY WHEN YOU
46:56 GET IN YOUR 20S AND YOU THINK, 'MAYBE MOM AND DAD WEREN'T SO
46:59 STUPID.' THEY MAY NOT SAY THAT, BUT THEY MAY THINK IT.
47:04 THEY START THINKING THAT 'MAYBE THEY KNEW SOMETHING AFTER ALL.'
47:08 BUT THEN AS - THE LONGER YOU LIVE, YOU REALIZE, OF ALL THE
47:11 KNOWLEDGE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW A VERY LITTLE PART OF IT.
47:15 AND SO, IT'S IRRATIONAL FOR US TO THINK THAT WE CAN EXPLAIN THE
47:21 - I SAID ALL I SAID TO MAKE THIS POINT.
47:24 IT'S THE POINT OF JOB - THE BOOK OF JOB - THAT THERE'S A WHOLE
47:28 LOT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND. YOU'VE GOT JOB AND HIS THREE
47:31 FRIENDS AND ELIHU ALL TRYING TO EXPLAIN GOD, BUT IN THE BOTTOM
47:36 LINE, ELIHU SAYS, 'HE'S PAST FINDING OUT.'
47:40 WE - AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONE THING THAT HE'S SAYING THAT
47:43 ISN'T BEING SAID AS CLEARLY BY JOB AND BY HIS FRIENDS.
47:46 JOB IS SAYING, 'I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS IS HAPPENING.
47:49 I'M INNOCENT.' AND HIS FRIENDS ARE SAYING, 'YOU MUST HAVE DONE
47:51 SOMETHING WRONG, BECAUSE ONLY THE WICKED SUFFER.' AND ELIHU
47:53 COMES IN AND HE SAYS, 'HEY GUYS, THERE'S A LOT THAT WE DON'T KNOW
47:57 ABOUT GOD.' AND THEN GOD LATER RE-EMPHASIZES THAT TRUTH IN THE
48:03 FURTHER CHAPTERS. WE'VE STILL GOT THREE CHAPTERS TO GO IN THIS
48:06 STUDY. ALRIGHT, THE CHALLENGE OF FAITH IS OUR LAST SECTION -
48:11 THE CHALLENGE OF FAITH . AND ELIHU'S STILL SPEAKING HERE.
48:14 SOMEONE'S GOING TO READ FOR ME 1 KINGS 3:7.
48:18 I'M GOING TO READ JOB 36:1-4, "ELIHU ALSO PROCEEDED AND SAID:"
48:26 - MATTER OF FACT, AS YOU READ THROUGH IT SAYS, 'MOREOVER,
48:28 ELIHU SAID' 'FURTHER, ELIHU SAID' - HE TALKED QUITE A BIT -
48:31 "ELIHU ALSO PROCEEDED AND SAID: 'BEAR WITH ME A LITTLE, AND I
48:35 WILL SHOW YOU THAT THERE ARE YET WORDS TO SPEAK ON GOD'S BEHALF.
48:39 I WILL FETCH MY KNOWLEDGE FROM AFAR; I WILL ASCRIBE
48:41 RIGHTEOUSNESS TO MY MAKER. FOR TRULY MY WORDS ARE NOT
48:45 FALSE; ONE WHO IS PERFECT IN KNOWLEDGE IS WITH YOU."
48:48 NOW HE'S NOT SAYING THAT HE IS PERFECT IN KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T
48:52 THINK. I THINK THAT ELIHU IS SAYING THAT GOD IS PERFECT IN
48:57 KNOWLEDGE AND HE, THROUGH HIS SPIRIT, IS HERE.
49:00 ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD, READ FOR US, PLEASE, 1 KINGS.
49:04 >>1 KINGS 3:7, "NOW, O LORD MY GOD, YOU HAVE MADE YOUR SERVANT
49:09 KING INSTEAD OF MY FATHER DAVID, BUT I AM A LITTLE CHILD;
49:13 I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO GO OUT OR COME IN."
49:17 >>SO WHEN WE DESCRIBE THE WISEST MAN WHO EVER LIVED, WHO POPS
49:21 INTO YOUR MIND FIRST? >>SOLOMON.
49:24 >>SOLOMON. OF COURSE, JESUS WAS WISER BUT HE GETS A PASS BECAUSE
49:27 HE WAS GOD. AMONG REGULAR MEN, SOLOMON
49:31 WAS THE WISEST MAN. WHAT WAS SOLOMON'S IDEA
49:33 ABOUT HOW MUCH HE KNEW? HE SAYS, 'LORD, I'M A LITTLE
49:37 CHILD COMPARED TO ALL THERE IS TO BE KNOWN.
49:40 I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO OUT OR COME IN.' SOLOMON ALSO REPEATED,
49:43 FROM THE BOOK OF JOB, 'THE FEAR OF THE LORD IS THE BEGINNING OF
49:46 WISDOM. 1 CORINTHIANS 13:9, PAUL ALSO
49:50 BEARS OUT THIS THEME, "FOR WE KNOW IN PART AND WE
49:54 PROPHESY IN PART. BUT WHEN THAT WHICH IS PERFECT
49:57 HAS COME, THEN THAT WHICH IS IN PART WILL BE DONE AWAY."
50:02 NOW, EVERY NOW AND THEN I'LL GET A LETTER - I GET A PRETTY
50:05 REGULAR STREAM OF LETTERS - 'PASTOR DOUG, YOU SAID SOMETHING
50:08 WRONG IN YOUR SERMON.' SOMETIMES I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.
50:13 SOMETIMES I SAY, 'WELL, I'M NOT SURE AND YOU'RE NOT SURE
50:18 EITHER.' AND SOMETIMES I HAVE TO SAY, 'YOU'RE RIGHT.' THEY GIVE
50:24 THE OTHER VERSES, THEY GIVE THE CORRESPONDING INFORMATION - I
50:27 SAY, 'I WAS WRONG.' AND THEN I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH A VERSE AND
50:31 CYNDEE, WHO WORKS IN THE AMAZING FACTS CORRESPONDENCE DEPARTMENT,
50:35 BECAUSE A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS WE GET ARE DOCTRINAL QUESTIONS
50:37 THAT ARE BASIC - THEY'RE STANDARD - STATE OF THE DEAD,
50:39 YOU KNOW, WE DO OUR PROGRAMS AND THEY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE
50:41 SABBATH TRUTH AND SOME OF THESE THINGS, SO WE HAVE REGULAR
50:44 ANSWERS WE SEND OUT. I'VE TOLD CYNDEE THAT, WHEN
50:46 SOMEONE CORRECTS ME, AND IF I HAVE MADE A MISTAKE OR
50:49 MISSPOKEN, THERE'S THAT VERSE IN THE BIBLE
50:52 THAT SAYS, 'IN A MULTITUDE OF WORDS, SIN IS NOT WANTING.'
50:56 SIMPLE TRANSLATION MEANS: THE MORE YOU TALK, MORE CHANCE
50:59 YOU'RE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING WRONG.
51:02 AND SO, EVEN PREACHERS, WHEN THEY STAND BEFORE PEOPLE,
51:06 NEED TO ADMIT 'I'M NOT THE POPE.
51:10 HE'S NOT PERFECT AND I KNOW I'M NOT.' YOU KNOW, THE CATHOLIC
51:14 CHURCH USED TO CLAIM INFALLIBILITY AND EVERYTHING THE
51:17 POPE SAID WAS EX CATHEDRA - IT WAS THE WORD OF GOD.
51:20 AND NO PREACHER SHOULD EVER SAY THAT.
51:23 YOU DO YOUR BEST TO SPEAK THE WORDS OF THE LORD, AND AS LONG
51:26 AS YOU STICK TO THE BIBLE YOU KNOW YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE.
51:28 BUT HOW MUCH HIGHER - YOU KNOW, PAUL IS SAYING, 'FOR WE PROPHESY
51:33 IN PART' - WE ONLY KNOW IN PART - 'WE SEE THROUGH A GLASS
51:38 DIMLY.' OUR MIRRORS TODAY ARE MUCH MORE ACCURATE THAN THEY
51:44 WERE IN BIBLE TIMES. IN BIBLE TIMES A MIRROR, YOU
51:46 KNOW, IMPERFECT SURFACE - IT WAS A LITTLE WAVY AND WHEN YOU
51:49 LOOKED AT YOURSELF IT WASN'T A PERFECT REPRESENTATION.
51:52 AND THEN YOU'VE GOT 2 CORINTHIANS 5:7,
51:56 "FOR WE WALK BY FAITH, NOT BY SIGHT."
52:00 IN JOB 36:6 - ANOTHER STATEMENT OF ELIHU - "HE PRESERVES NOT THE
52:05 LIFE OF THE WICKED, BUT GIVES RIGHT TO THE POOR."
52:09 AGAIN, HE'S STATING THE OVERRIDING PRINCIPLE THAT YOU
52:11 FIND THROUGH THE BIBLE AND THROUGH THE BOOK OF JOB IS THAT
52:17 GOD DOES BLESS THE RIGHTEOUS. AND THOUGH THE WICKED MAY SEEM
52:20 TO PROSPER AND THOUGH THE SINNER MAY SEEM TO FLOURISH FOR A
52:23 WHILE, KING DAVID SAID, 'DO NOT FRET' - PSALM 37 - 'BECAUSE OF
52:27 THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE REJOICING IS TEMPORARY.
52:30 IN THE END, I KNOW IT WILL BE WELL WITH THE RIGHTEOUS.
52:33 IT WILL NOT BE WELL WITH THE WICKED.'
52:36 AND ANYWAY, SO YOU NEED TO READ THOSE FIVE CHAPTERS OF
52:38 ELIHU AND LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.
52:41 THERE HAVE BEEN ALL KINDS OF THEORIES ABOUT HIM.
52:43 SOME SAY THE HOLY SPIRIT SUDDENLY APPEARED IN THE FORM OF
52:47 THIS MAN AND ALL THAT ELIHU SAID WAS THE HOLY SPIRIT.
52:51 SOME HAVE SAID ELIHU WAS REALLY A CHRISTOPHANY - DO YOU KNOW
52:55 WHAT A CHRISTOPHANY IS? WHEN JESUS APPEARED AT THE
52:58 BURNING BUSH TO MOSES, IT'S - THEY BELIEVE IT WAS CHRIST.
53:03 THE ONE WHO APPEARED AS THE ANGEL OF THE LORD TO JOSHUA,
53:07 WHEN JOSHUA TOOK OFF HIS SHOES AND BOWED BEFORE HIM, WAS A
53:10 CHRISTOPHANY. THE - ONE OF THE TIMES WHEN
53:13 JESUS APPEARED TO ABRAHAM - THAT'S WHY CHRIST SAID, 'BEFORE
53:16 ABRAHAM WAS, I AM.' WHEN CHRIST APPEARED TO ABRAHAM AS HE WAS
53:22 WITH HIS ANGELS ON HIS WAY TO SODOM AND GOMORRAH,
53:24 IT WAS A CHRISTOPHANY. AND SOME HAVE WONDERED IF ELIHU
53:26 WAS ACTUALLY A CHRISTOPHANY. I DON'T THINK SO.
53:29 I THINK IT'S AN ACTUAL PERSON THERE, BUT WHAT HE SAYS IS
53:32 PRETTY MYSTERIOUS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THEORIES OUT
53:34 THERE AMONG THE COMMENTATORS, HOW THIS MAN APPEARS OUT OF
53:36 NOWHERE AND HAS SO MUCH TO SAY. ANYWAY, THAT'S THE END
53:40 OF OUR STUDY FOR TODAY. I WANT TO THANK THOSE WHO HAVE
53:42 JOINED US AND REMIND YOU, WE DO HAVE A FREE BOOK.
53:44 THIS IS A FULL-LENGTH BOOK. YOU KNOW, THE BOOK OF JOB TALKS
53:47 ABOUT WHEN YOU GO THROUGH TRIALS AND DARKNESS AND THIS IS A BOOK
53:50 CALLED, A DEEP BUT DAZZLING DARKNESS: EXPLORING GOD'S DARK
53:54 SIDE IN THE LIGHT OF HIS LOVE . WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH
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54:02 THE NUMBER 866-788-3966 AND WE'LL SEND YOU A FREE COPY.
54:07 THAT'S 866-STUDY-MORE. GOD BLESS YOU, FRIENDS, WE'LL
54:10 LOOK FORWARD TO EXPLORING HIS WORD TOGETHER AGAIN, NEXT
54:13 WEEK. (MUSIC)
54:24 >>FRIENDS, WE'RE OUT HERE IN THE PACIFIC OCEAN NOT
54:27 TOO FAR FROM THE ISLAND OF FIJI, AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO LOOK
54:29 AT SOME WONDERS IN THE DEEP. THE BIBLE SAYS GOD MADE THE
54:34 HEAVEN AND THE EARTH AND THE SEA.
54:36 AND THERE ARE THINGS UNDER THE SEA THAT ARE BEAUTIFUL THAT MANY
54:38 PEOPLE HAVE NEVER SEEN. SOME FOLKS MIGHT JUST SKIM ALONG
54:41 - SNORKEL ON THE SURFACE, BUT IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE REAL MAJESTY
54:44 OF THE OCEAN, YOU'VE GOT TO GO DEEPER. (LIVELY MUSIC)
55:01 >>BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE GILLS LIKE FISH, WE
55:03 HAVE TO DO SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY TO BE ABLE TO
55:06 BREATHE BELOW THE SURFACE. BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BREATHE ALL
55:09 THE TIME, WE NEED THIS SPECIAL EQUIPMENT.
55:11 (SOUND OF BREATHING APPARATUS) IN THE SAME WAY, THE BIBLE SAYS
55:16 A CHRISTIAN NEEDS TO PRAY WITHOUT CEASING.
55:18 WE NEED TO ALWAYS BE BREATHING THE ATMOSPHERE OF HEAVEN IF
55:21 WE'RE GOING TO LIVE A CHRISTIAN LIFE IN THIS WORLD BELOW.
55:24 (MUSIC) >>WOW, WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD.
55:54 (MUSIC)
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56:09 YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEK TO ENJOY MORE
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56:36 >>(DRAMATIC MUSIC) (RAIN FALLING) (CREAKING DOORS)
56:47 THROUGHOUT RECORDED HISTORY TALES OF GHOSTS AND SPIRITS
56:51 COULD BE FOUND IN FOLKLORE IN NEARLY EVERY COUNTRY AND
56:54 CULTURE. THE EGYPTIANS BUILT PYRAMIDS TO
56:58 HELP GUIDE THE SPIRITS OF THEIR LEADERS.
57:01 ROME SANCTIONED HOLIDAYS TO HONOR AND APPEASE THE SPIRITS OF
57:05 THEIR DEAD. EVEN THE BIBLE TELLS OF A KING
57:08 THAT USED A WITCH TO CONTACT THE SPIRIT OF A DECEASED PROPHET.
57:13 TODAY, ANCIENT FOLKLORE OF SPIRITS AND APPARITIONS HAVE
57:17 GONE FROM MERE SUPERSTITIONS TO MAIN STREAM ENTERTAINMENT AND
57:21 REALITY. SCIENTIFIC ORGANIZATIONS
57:24 INVESTIGATE STORIES OF HAUNTINGS AND SIGHTINGS, TRYING TO PROVE,
57:28 ONCE AND FOR ALL, THE EXISTENCE OF GHOSTS.
57:35 EVEN WITH ALL THE NEWFOUND TECHNOLOGY AND CENTURIES OF
57:39 STORIES ALL OVER THE WORLD, THERE IS STILL NO CLEAR-CUT
57:44 ANSWER. SO HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT'S TRUE?
57:50 WHY DO THESE STORIES PERSIST? DOES IT EVEN MATTER?
57:57 WE INVITE YOU TO LOOK INSIDE AND FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF.
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