Participants: Doug Batchelor
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00:34 >>GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. 00:36 WELCOME TO SABBATH SCHOOL STUDY HOUR. 00:40 MY NAME IS JOHN QUEDZUWEIT, I'M ONE OF THE PASTORS HERE AT THE 00:43 GRANITE BAY CHURCH. THIS QUARTER'S LESSON IS GOING 00:47 TO BE ON THE BOOK OF PROVERBS AND WE ALSO - WITH THAT, THIS 00:51 WEEK, WE ALSO HAVE A TINY BOOK THAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE FOR 00:55 FREE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE IT, IT'S CALLED TINY TROUBLEMAKER. 00:59 JUST CALL 866-788-3966 AND ASK FOR OFFER #196. 01:11 AT THIS TIME WE WANT TO PRAY AND ASK THE LORD TO BE WITH US AS WE 01:16 OPEN UP THE WORD TODAY. OUR KIND, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE'RE 01:19 HERE TODAY AND WE JUST WANT YOUR HOLY SPIRIT TO BE WITH US AS WE 01:24 OPEN UP THE WORD TODAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 01:27 BE WITH US NOW THIS WE PRAY. IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. 01:32 OUR TEACHER TODAY IS DON MACKINTOSH. 01:34 HE'S THE CAMPUS CHAPLAIN AT WEIMAR COLLEGE. 01:37 THANKS FOR BEING WITH US, DON. 01:40 >>GOOD EVENING, FRIENDS. HOW ARE YOU THIS EVENING? 01:42 YOU READY TO STUDY THE WORD? AND WE'RE LOOKING TOGETHER AT 01:47 PROVERBS AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE BOOKS. 01:51 IN FACT, UP THERE AT WEIMAR, AS THE CHAPLAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS 01:54 I DO IS I WORK WITH THE NEDLEY DEPRESSION RECOVERY PROGRAM AND 01:57 WE USE THE PROVERBS - IT'S PART OF OUR - OUR THERAPY BECAUSE, AS 02:02 WE STUDY THE PROVERBS IT MAKES US THINK. 02:05 USUALLY THERE'S PARALLELISMS AND PEOPLE THEN BEGIN TO LOOK AT 02:09 THOSE AND THEIR MIND ACTUALLY WAKES UP. SO I'M DELIGHTED TO BE 02:13 ASKED TO BE HERE WITH YOU FOR THIS STUDY TIME. OUR STUDY THIS 02:17 TIME IS FOUND IN PROVERBS CHAPTERS 17, 18, AND 19. 02:21 AND, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE PROVERBS ARE SO - WHILE THEY 02:25 MIGHT SEEM SCATTERED - YOU MIGHT SAY THAT'S A KIND WAY TO PUT IT. 02:29 YOU KNOW, IT MOVES FROM ONE THOUGHT TO THE OTHER AND SO MY 02:32 OLD SEMINARY PROFESSOR, WHO WROTE THESE LESSONS, JACQUES 02:36 DOUKHAN, DR. DOUKHAN, HAS CHOSEN SOME THEMES THAT HE FOCUSES IN 02:41 ON AS WE GO THROUGH THESE CHAPTERS AND LESSON #7, THE 02:46 TITLE IS DEALING WITH FIGHTS . DEALING WITH FIGHTS. 02:50 NOW HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN IN A FIGHT? ALRIGHT, I'M 02:53 GLAD THOSE CAMERAS ARE CATCHING ALL THOSE HANDS BECAUSE WE'VE 02:56 FOUND THE PEOPLE THAT RAISE THEIR HANDS AND THE OTHER PEOPLE 02:59 THAT DIDN'T WANT TO ADMIT THAT THEY'VE BEEN IN A FIGHT. 03:02 SO DEALING WITH FIGHTS - AND OUR MEMORY VERSE FOR TODAY IS TAKEN 03:06 FROM ACTUALLY THE FIRST VERSE OF PROVERBS CHAPTER 17 - PROVERBS 03:13 CHAPTER 17, VERSE 1, AND I'M USING THE NEW KING JAMES VERSION 03:18 TONIGHT. "BETTER IS A DRY MORSEL WITH 03:21 QUIETNESS, THAN A HOUSE FULL OF FEASTING WITH STRIFE." 03:26 IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S A LOT BETTER TO NOT HAVE VERY GOOD 03:31 FOOD AROUND AND NOT, MAYBE, EVEN HAVE AIR CONDITIONING 03:34 THAN TO BE IN A FIGHT WITH SOMEBODY ELSE. YOU KNOW, 03:37 I LOOKED IT UP TONIGHT BEFORE I CAME IN AND I WANTED TO KNOW 03:41 HOW MANY WARS AND CONFLICTS WERE GOING ON RIGHT NOW, BESIDES THE 03:44 ONES I KNOW ABOUT, WHICH ARE NOT THAT MANY, BUT THE NUMBER OF 03:47 COUNTRIES INVOLVED IN WARS TONIGHT ARE 65 AND THE NUMBER OF 03:51 GROUPS THAT ARE FIGHTING WITH ONE ANOTHER IN VARIOUS MILITIAS 03:54 AND WHATNOT - 610 DIFFERENT GROUPS. 03:58 THOSE ARE MAJOR CONFLICTS. BUT THEN SOME PEOPLE YOU KNOW 04:01 HAVE CONFLICTS IN THEIR OWN HOMES. 04:04 I KNOW SOME PEOPLE TONIGHT ARE IN THE MIDST OF A FIGHT AND I'M 04:07 PRAYING, AND I KNOW WE ARE HERE, THAT AS WE STUDY GOD'S WORD IT 04:11 WILL NOT JUST BE SOMETHING WE STUDY, BUT IT ACTUALLY CAN BRING 04:15 HEALING AND LIFE INTO HEARTS AND HOMES TONIGHT. 04:18 >>AMEN. >>SO LET'S PRAY THAT THAT 04:20 HAPPENS. YOU KNOW, ANOTHER VERSE IN PROVERBS 04:23 CHAPTER 15, VERSE 17 - "HOLY LOVE, FOUND IN A COTTAGE IS 04:29 BETTER THAN THE MOST LUXURIOUS FEAST IN THE PLACES OF STRIFE." 04:33 SO THIS IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, FIGHTS AND - I MIGHT JUST SAY 04:39 FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, BECAUSE THE LESSON WAS NOT REALLY 04:42 BRINGING THIS VERSE OUT, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY IT JUST TO START 04:46 OUT. BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS 04:47 BUILD LIKE A PROFILE OF HOW TO DEAL WITH FIGHTS, OKAY? 04:51 THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TONIGHT. 04:53 I HAVE SEVEN DIFFERENT POINTS THAT, HOPEFULLY, ARE TAKEN FROM 04:56 THE LESSON, OKAY? AND I'VE EVEN WORKED WITH THE 05:00 LESSON A LITTLE MORE THAN MY OLD PROFESSOR JACQUES DOUKHAN, SO I 05:04 KNOW HE'LL FORGIVE ME AND YOU'LL FOLLOW ALONG. 05:05 BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SAY BEFORE I EVEN SAY WHAT 05:07 I'M GOING TO SAY IS THE BEST THING TO DO WITH A FIGHT IS TO 05:12 AVOID A FIGHT. >>AMEN. 05:14 >>SO CHAPTER 17, VERSE 14, "THE BEGINNING OF STRIFE IS LIKE 05:19 RELEASING" - WHAT DOES IT SAY? >>WATER. 05:21 >>"WATER;" - NOW HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO RELEASE WATER? 05:24 IT'S LIKE, 'OKAY, I'M JUST GOING TO LET A LITTLE BIT GO.' YEAH, 05:28 MY SON WHO'S FIVE YEARS OLD, HE TRIED THAT THE OTHER NIGHT AND 05:31 WE HAD TO CLEAN UP ALL KINDS OF STUFF. SO SOMETIMES YOU THINK, 05:35 'YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST HAVE A LITTLE FIGHT. 05:37 WE'LL JUST - WE'LL GET THIS OVER WITH AND THEN WE'LL JUST MOVE 05:40 ON.' YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THEY THOUGHT BACK IN THE CIVIL WAR. 05:44 THEY THOUGHT, 'YOU KNOW WHAT? 05:45 WE'LL JUST START THIS LITTLE WAR. 05:46 THESE PEOPLE ARE CAUSING SOME PROBLEMS IN VARIOUS STATES' - 05:51 AND I DON'T WANT TO START ANOTHER WAR BY TALKING ABOUT 05:52 NORTH VERSUS SOUTH, BUT MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN FIGURE THAT OUT. 05:55 AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEY SAID, 'IT WON'T TAKE VERY LONG.' AND 05:59 ALL THE NEWSPAPERS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT ARTICLES CAME OUT AND 06:02 THEY SAID, 'THIS WILL BE A VERY SHORT CONTEST. IF PRESIDENT 06:06 LINCOLN KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING, THIS WILL BE A MATTER OF DAYS. 06:09 IT WILL BE JUST BY BLOCKADE AT SEA.' BUT YOU KNOW SOMETHING? 06:14 HOW MANY PEOPLE DIED IN THE CIVIL WAR? 06:17 MORE THAN ANY OTHER WAR WE'VE EVER HAD, ALMOST ALL COMBINED. 06:21 620,000 PEOPLE - 50,000 AMPUTEES. 06:25 YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS - AND SOME PEOPLE - I REMEMBER READING THE 06:28 ACCOUNTS OF THE FIRST BATTLE. THEY WENT OUT AND SAID, 'WE'RE 06:31 JUST GOING TO WATCH THIS. THEY BROUGHT THEIR PICNIC. 06:33 THEY THOUGHT, 'OH, THIS WILL JUST BE A, YOU KNOW, GOOD LITTLE 06:35 FIGHT.' AND THEN ALL THOSE PEOPLE DIED. 06:38 CERTAINLY THE PROVERB IS TRUE: "THE BEGINNING OF STRIFE IS LIKE 06:41 RELEASING WATER; THEREFORE STOP CONTENTION BEFORE A QUARREL 06:46 STARTS." HOW MANY OF YOU THINK THAT'S 06:49 PRETTY GOOD ADVICE? >>AMEN. 06:51 >>SO, BACK TO OUR FIRST VERSE, THOUGH, PROVERBS CHAPTER 17 WITH 06:55 1 - VERSE 1, "BETTER IS A DRY MORSEL WITH QUIETNESS, THAN A 06:59 HOUSE FULL OF FEASTING WITH STRIFE." 07:01 YOU KNOW, RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM HERE, AND I LIVED WITHIN 07:03 MILES OF HERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, THERE'S A CASINO. 07:09 AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF CASINOS IN THE WORLD - I ACTUALLY LOOKED 07:12 UP HOW MANY CASINOS THERE ARE TOO IN THE VARIOUS COUNTRIES. 07:15 NOT THAT I WAS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING TO VISIT THE CASINOS, 07:18 JUST FOR TONIGHT'S BLESSING. AND IN THE CASINOS - YOU KNOW 07:21 HOW MANY CASINOS THERE ARE IN NORTH AMERICA? 07:25 IT'S ACTUALLY MORE THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD. 07:27 THERE'S 1623 CASINOS IN THIS COUNTRY. 07:32 THE NEXT LARGEST COUNTRY - OR BLOCK - THAT HAS CASINOS IS 07:35 WESTERN EUROPE WITH ONLY 682. WE HAVE A THOUSAND MORE - IN 07:39 THIS COUNTRY WE ARE LIVING THIS PARTICULAR VERSE. 07:44 MOST OF US ARE NOT WITH A DRY MORSEL WITH QUIETNESS, BUT MANY 07:48 OF US ARE A HOUSE FULL OF FEASTING WITH STRIFE. 07:51 AND SOMETIMES THIS ABUNDANCE REALLY HURTS US. 07:57 I MEAN, I REMEMBER I WAS TALKING TO ONE OF THE PARAMEDICS WHO 08:00 WORKED IN THE CASINO DOWN HERE AND HE SAID, 'I HAVE MORE CALLS 08:03 FOR DIABETIC REACTIONS, AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, AT THE 08:07 CASINO THAN I EVER HAD WHEN I WAS OUT ON THE ROAD. PEOPLE WERE 08:11 JUST FEASTING AND IT WAS CAUSING ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS. 08:13 BUT I WANTED TO MENTION THIS: YOU KNOW, MANY TIMES WE THINK IF 08:16 WE JUST GET ALL THIS MONEY EVERYTHING WOULD BE GOOD. 08:21 IF WE WOULD JUST BE IN THE LAST PART OF THAT VERSE - WE HAVE 08:24 FEASTING AND WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE WANT. 08:26 YOU KNOW, WE THINK, 'OUR LIFE WOULD BE SO GREAT.' BUT YOU 08:31 PROBABLY ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE STUDIES ON MILLIONAIRES AND 08:34 THOSE THAT WIN THE LOTTERY AND CASINOS, MOST OF THEM EITHER DIE 08:38 OR HAVE TERRIBLE THINGS HAPPEN VERY RAPIDLY. 08:41 ONE LADY WAS WRITING THIS: "MY LIFE IS IN SHAMBLES AND 08:43 HOPEFULLY NOW THAT ALL I HAVE IS GONE, I'LL FIND SOME HAPPINESS. 08:49 IT BROUGHT ME NOTHING BUT UNHAPPINESS. IT RUINED MY LIFE." 08:53 SHE WON MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND SHE WAS JUST SO HAPPY WHEN IT 08:55 WAS ALL GONE BECAUSE SHE SAID, 'MAN, THIS IS - THIS IS 09:00 TERRIBLE.' BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T WIN A CASINO 09:04 ANONYMOUSLY, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE JUST A FEW OF THEM, BECAUSE THEY 09:06 WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT YOU WON SO THEY GO ON THE TELEVISION 09:09 AND THEY SAY, 'LOOK, YOU KNOW, KAREN WON 50 MILLION DOLLARS. 09:13 GIVE HER A CALL.' AND THAT'S - HER LIFE IS OVER. 09:16 HER LIFE IS OVER. SO CERTAINLY TRUE OF THE MEMORY VERSE. 09:21 SO LET'S GO THEN TO THE LESSON FOR SUNDAY, SINS AND FRIENDS . 09:27 I THINK THAT, KIND OF, ALMOST RHYMED A BIT BUT I HOPE THAT 09:30 DOESN'T WORK WITH YOUR FRIENDS - SINS AND FRIENDS . 09:32 LET'S LOOK AT THE VERSES FOR THAT PARTICULAR DAY AND I LIKE 09:35 THIS. I WANT TO TEACH YOU A NEW WORD, IT'S CALLED 'OLAT.' 09:39 CAN YOU SAY 'OLAT?' >>OLAT. 09:41 >>THAT'S AN ACRONYM THAT CALLS - THAT MEANS 'OVERLOOK A 09:44 TRANSGRESSION.' OKAY? 09:45 SO YOU'VE GOT TO LEARN HOW TO OLAT. 09:47 YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING ALONG - OLAT. 09:50 SO LET'S LOOK AT THE VERSE AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT - AND I'M 09:53 GOING TO LOOK AT PROVERBS CHAPTER 19, VERSE 11 FIRST HERE, 09:59 "THE DISCRETION OF A MAN" - 19 VERSE 11 - IF YOU'RE THERE WITH 10:06 ME - "THE DISCRETION OF A MAN MAKES HIM SLOW TO ANGER, AND HIS 10:12 GLORY IS TO (OLAT) OVERLOOK A TRANSGRESSION." 10:17 SO OVERLOOKING A TRANSGRESSION. 10:20 NOW THIS IS STEP NUMBER TWO IN OUR LIST THAT WE'RE MAKING. 10:24 FIRST OF ALL, AVOID A FIGHT IF YOU CAN. 10:26 NUMBER TWO: OLAT - NOW WHAT DOES THAT MEAN 'TO OVERLOOK A 10:29 TRANSGRESSION?' WELL LET'S GO THROUGH THE VERSE. 10:33 "THE DISCRETION OF A MAN MAKES HIM SLOW TO ANGER," - YOU KNOW, 10:37 THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TIMES IN SCRIPTURE WHERE GOD IS - HIS 10:41 CHARACTER IS MENTIONED AND THIS IS ONE OF HIS CHARACTERISTICS. 10:44 HE'S SLOW TO ANGER, RIGHT? AND THIS IS KEY IN TERMS OF 10:52 DE-ESCALATING FIGHTS AND THE DISCRETION OF A MAN - ACTUALLY, 10:57 THE WORD THERE IS 'THE WISDOM' OR 'THE GOOD SENSE' OF A MAN IS 11:03 SOMETHING THAT MAKES HIM SLOW TO ANGER. 11:06 IT IS HIS GLORY TO OVERLOOK A TRANSGRESSION. 11:10 NOW THAT WORD 'GLORY' LITERALLY MEANS 'BEAUTY.' WHEN YOU SEE 11:13 SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T TAKE THE BAIT - DOESN'T GET INTO A FIGHT 11:18 - AND RESISTS IT, THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL THING. 11:23 I WISH I SAW THAT MORE WITH MY KIDS. 11:25 AND WHEN I DO SEE IT, I'M JUST LIKE, 'YOU KNOW WHAT?' 11:29 I'LL TELL MY - WELL, I WON'T MENTION MY CHILDREN'S NAMES 11:32 BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO START ANOTHER FIGHT, BUT I'LL TELL THE 11:36 ONE THAT DID IT, I'LL SAY, 'YOU KNOW WHAT? 11:38 THAT WAS A BEAUTIFUL THING YOU DID THERE. 11:40 YOU DIDN'T - YOU DIDN'T TAKE THE BAIT.' 11:44 YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS TELL MY KIDS, 'COME AND TALK TO ME. 11:46 I'M THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT. 11:50 VENGEANCE IS MINE.' NOW, OF COURSE, VENGEANCE IS ACTUALLY 11:54 THE LORD'S. YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING. 11:56 BUT THIS IDEA OF HAVING THE DISCRETION TO NOT ALWAYS GET 12:01 INTO A FIGHT - I REMEMBER ONCE I WAS WALKING OVER IN VENICE. 12:04 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN THERE - AND YOU'RE WALKING ALONG 12:07 AND THERE'S ALL THOSE WATERWAYS AND WALKWAYS - AND THIS GUY WAS 12:10 JUST COMPLETELY - WELL, HE HAD HAD TOO MUCH SAUCE AND IT WASN'T 12:14 THE SAUCE FROM HIS PIZZA - AND HE WAS LOOKING FOR A FIGHT AND 12:18 HE CAME ALONG AND HE - HE, FOR SOME REASON, HE JUST THOUGHT I 12:21 LOOKED LIKE SOMEBODY HE SHOULD HAVE A FIGHT WITH. 12:25 AND MY WIFE SAID TO ME - AND I THINK IT WAS ON OUR HONEYMOON, 12:28 SHE SAYS TO ME, 'WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT GUY?' 12:31 I SAID, 'LOOK, DON'T EVEN LOOK AT THE GUY. 12:33 WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT HIM.' SOMETIMES THE BEST THING IS JUST 12:38 TO OVERLOOK A TRANSGRESSION. HE WAS USING FOUL LANGUAGE. 12:41 HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ME. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT MY WIFE - 12:44 ON MY HONEYMOON! BUT I KNEW THAT THAT GUY WAS 12:49 PROBABLY GOING TO HURT US AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET OUT OF 12:51 THERE SO JUST OVERLOOK IT. NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT A 12:54 TRANSGRESSION. NOTICE THE TEXT - IT IS TO HIS 12:57 GLORY TO OVERLOOK A TRANSGRESSION. 12:59 THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE NOT CALLING IT A TRANSGRESSION. 13:01 THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT WRONG, BUT YOU'RE RECOGNIZING 13:04 THAT THAT'S NOT THE TIME AND THAT'S NOT THE PLACE TO DEAL 13:08 WITH IT. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU'RE 13:09 MINIMIZING SIN. EVEN CHRIST HIMSELF - REMEMBER 13:12 THE STORY, WHEN THEY WERE FIGHTING OVER THE BODY OF MOSES 13:15 - OR THE DEVIL CAME TO FIGHT OVER THE BODY? 13:17 HE SAID, 'LOOK, THE LORD REBUKE YOU. 13:19 I'M NOT FIGHTING WITH YOU OVER THAT.' THERE WAS A TIME AND A 13:22 PLACE. CHRIST COULD HAVE COME DOWN OFF 13:23 THE CROSS BUT THERE WAS A TIME AND A PLACE, AMEN? 13:26 SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT IS. 13:29 SO IT IS HIS BEAUTY TO OVERLOOK A TRANSGRESSION. 13:32 AND, BY THE WAY, THAT WORD 'TRANSGRESSION' THERE IS NO 13:34 LIGHT WORD. IT'S THE WORD 'PASHA, WHICH 13:37 MEANS 'REBELLION.' IT IS A SERIOUS INFRACTION. 13:43 IT'S NOT LIKE, 'OKAY, I'M GOING TO OVERLOOK IT BECAUSE, YOU 13:44 KNOW, HE JUST SPILLED WATER ON MY FAVORITE SUIT.' NO, NO, NO, 13:47 NO, THIS IS LIKE A TRANSGRESSION. 13:49 THE FACT IS, I REMEMBER, I CAN'T - I MEAN, JACQUES DOUKHAN, MY 13:51 TEACHER, WATCHING - HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO SAY 'NO!' 13:53 BUT I BELIEVE THAT WORD IS RELATED TO SINS THAT WERE NOT 13:56 EVEN ABLE TO BE HANDLED IN THE SANCTUARY ITSELF. 14:02 OVERLOOKING A TRANSGRESSION. NOW DID THIS EVER HAPPEN IN THE 14:05 BIBLE? CAN YOU THINK OF ANY EXAMPLES WHERE PEOPLE 14:07 OVERLOOKED A TRANSGRESSION? I GAVE YOU A COUPLE. 14:10 BUT CAN YOU THINK OF ANY, LIKE, BIG SINS THAT PEOPLE DID? 14:14 I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A HINT. A COAT OF MANY COLORS. 14:19 >>JOSEPH. >>ALRIGHT, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT, 14:22 JOSEPH. DID HE OVERLOOK TRANSGRESSION? 14:25 HIS BROTHERS CAME. THEY HAD THROWN HIM IN A PIT. 14:27 HE HAD BEEN IN SLAVERY. HE HAD BEEN THROUGH UNMITIGATED 14:30 HORROR AND THEN HIS BROTHERS SHOW UP LOOKING FOR FOOD. 14:34 YOU KNOW, HOW MANY THINK YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT 14:36 TEMPTED TO NOT OVERLOOK THAT? NOW, YOU KNOW, HE DID MESS 14:40 AROUND A BIT WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY - YOU KNOW, HE 14:44 WANTED TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THEIR CHARACTER WAS AND WHAT - BUT 14:46 LARGELY OVERLOOKED THE ENTIRE THING. 14:48 ANOTHER STORY IN THE BIBLE - CAN YOU REMEMBER THIS GUY - YOU 14:50 REMEMBER DAVID WHEN HE WAS DOWN AND OUT AND HE WAS WALKING ALONG 14:53 AND THERE WAS THIS GUY COMING ALONG AND HE WAS THROWING ROCKS 14:55 AT HIM? REMEMBER THAT? REMEMBER THAT GUY'S NAME? 14:57 >>SHIMEI. >>YES THAT'S RIGHT, SHIMEI. 14:59 HE CAME ALONG AND HE WAS THROWING ROCKS - IN FACT, I 15:03 THINK IT WAS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OFFICERS THERE NEXT TO DAVID 15:05 SAID, 'LOOK AT THIS' - I THINK HE CALLED HIM A DOG - 15:08 'LOOK AT THIS DOG THROWING STUFF AT YOU. 15:10 WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?' 15:11 HE DIDN'T EVEN SAY ANYTHING. HE SAID, 'YOU KNOW WHAT? 15:15 JUST LEAVE IT ALONE.' NOW I'VE GOT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, 15:19 THOUGH, YOU KNOW, HE SAID 'LEAVE IT ALONE' BUT HIS SON SAID, 15:22 'SHIMEI, YOU LIVE IN THIS PART OF THE CITY AND YOU DON'T LEAVE 15:25 THAT HOUSE BECAUSE WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON YOU BECAUSE YOU THREW 15:27 A ROCK AT MY DAD.' THIS WAS SOME YEARS LATER. 15:30 ONCE YOU'RE THROWING A ROCK YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO ALWAYS 15:32 THROW ROCKS, SO JUST STAY IN YOUR HOUSE. 15:33 AND THEN, YOU KNOW - YOU KNOW THE STORY. 15:35 FINALLY ONE DAY HIS SERVANTS ESCAPED AND HE WENT AFTER THEM 15:38 AND WHAT HAPPENED? >>HE WAS KILLED. 15:40 >>SHIMEI WAS NO LONGER WITH US. 15:44 HOWEVER, YOU SEE, THAT WAS SLOW TO WRATH. 15:46 HE OVERLOOKED THAT TRANSGRESSION AND DE-ESCALATED THE SITUATION. 15:51 IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NO GOOD FOR HIM TO GET INTO A FIGHT AT THAT 15:53 TIME, WHEN HE WAS ACTUALLY TRYING TO SAVE THE KINGDOM. 15:56 HOW MANY OF YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT KIND OF DISCRETION? 15:58 HOW MANY OF YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT KIND OF BEAUTY IN YOUR 16:00 LIFE? HOW MANY OF YOU WANT THAT IN YOUR HOME? 16:02 LOOK, THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE WATCHING, DO YOU NEED THAT IN 16:05 YOUR LIFE AND IN YOUR HOME? WE NEED TO PRAY THAT GOD CAN 16:08 GIVE US THAT KIND OF SLOW TO ANGER ATTITUDE. 16:11 NOW, ONE LAST THING, YOU KNOW, OVERLOOKING - WE'LL COME BACK TO 16:17 THAT - OVERLOOKING IS REALLY RELATED TO FORGIVING AND IF I 16:22 DON'T BRING THAT BACK UP AGAIN, REMIND ME, OKAY? 16:24 SO HOW IS IT THAT WE CAN, THOUGH - YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THINKING, 16:27 'WAIT A MINUTE, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IN MY HOUSE. 16:31 IT'S REALLY NICE OF YOU TO HAVE THAT NICE LITTLE BLUE SUIT ON, 16:33 SIT UP THERE IN THE LIGHTS AND TELL ME WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO 16:35 IN MY HOUSE.' RIGHT? WELL, YOU KNOW, BEING MARRIED 22 16:41 YEARS, HAVING FOUR KIDS, AND WORKING IN THE CHURCH, I THINK I 16:46 MIGHT KNOW A FEW THINGS ABOUT THIS. 16:48 BUT LET ME TELL YOU, THIS IS WHAT MAKES ME BE ABLE TO 16:51 OVERLOOK TRANSGRESSIONS. IT'S BECAUSE I KNOW GOD'S NOT 16:54 GOING TO OVERLOOK THEM. AND I KNOW HE HAS THE WISDOM TO 16:58 HANDLE THEM. WHAT'S IT SAY? ROMANS CHAPTER 12 AND VERSES 18 17:02 AND 19 - ROMANS CHAPTER 12, VERSES 18 AND 19 - WE'LL JUST 17:06 LOOK BRIEFLY AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO RUSH ON. 17:08 ROMANS CHAPTER 12:18 AND 19, "IF IT IS POSSIBLE," - AND, BY THE 17:15 WAY, I THINK IT IS - "AS MUCH AS LIETH IN YOU, LIVE PEACEABLY 17:18 WITH ALL MEN." - AND THEN VERSE 19 - ROMANS 17:21 CHAPTER 12, VERSE 19, DO YOU SEE IT THERE? - 17:23 "DEARLY BELOVED, AVENGE NOT YOURSELVES, BUT RATHER GIVE 17:27 PLACE UNTO WRATH: FOR IT IS WRITTEN," - WHAT DOES IT SAY? 17:30 >>"VENGEANCE IS MINE." >>"VENGEANCE IS MINE," 17:32 >>"I WILL REPAY" >>"'I WILL REPAY,' 17:35 SAITH THE LORD." YOU SAY, 'WAIT A MINUTE. 17:38 I DON'T TRUST THE LORD.' YOU KNOW, I WORK WITH A LOT OF 17:39 DEPRESSED FOLKS. YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE THING, IF YOU TRY TO 17:43 BE THE LORD, YOU'RE GOING TO WEAR YOURSELF OUT. YOU CAN 17:47 NEVER REPAY SOMEBODY. YOU CAN'T REALLY TAKE CARE OF IT. 17:51 BUT GOD CAN. AND YOU SAY, 'WAIT A MINUTE. 17:54 GOD'S NOT GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT LIKE I CAN.' OH YEAH? 17:57 I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU ANOTHER TEXT. 17:59 MARK THIS TEXT DOWN. IT'LL REALLY HELP YOU. 18:01 PSALM 99 - PSALM 99 AND VERSE 8 - PSALM 99 AND VERSE 8, 18:09 "..."O LORD OUR GOD: THOU DIDST ANSWER THEM" - PSALM 99, VERSE 8 18:16 -"THOU ANSWEREDST THEM, O LORD OUR GOD: THOU WAST A GOD THAT 18:21 FORGAVEST THEM, THOUGH THOU TOOKEST VENGEANCE OF THEIR 18:24 INVENTIONS." NOW ISN'T THAT AN INTERESTING TEXT? 18:27 IN OTHER WORDS, GOD NOT ONLY FORGIVES - BECAUSE HE'S GOD HE 18:31 CAN FORGIVE AND ALSO METE OUT JUSTICE. 18:35 HOW MANY OF YOU THINK THAT'S QUITE A GOD? 18:37 >>AMEN. >>AND HE CAN TAKE CARE OF IT. 18:40 SO, OVERLOOKING A TRANSGRESSION - ANY OF YOU MARRIED? 18:44 YOU KNOW ANYONE THAT'S MARRIED? 18:45 ARE YOU HERE AS A RESULT OF A MARRIAGE? 18:46 IS SOMEBODY - YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN? 18:48 SO, LOOK, MARRIAGE - YOU KNOW THE FIRST PERSON THEY LOOK FOR - 18:51 SOMEONE GETS KILLED IN A HOUSE - THEY LOOK AT THE SPOUSE. 18:56 WHY IS THAT? THEY GOT SOME PROBLEMS WITH OLAT. 19:00 THEY'RE NOT OVERLOOKING TRANSGRESSIONS AND IT BUILDS UP 19:03 AND THEY SAY, 'I AM NOT OVERLOOKING THAT TRANSGRESSION.' 19:07 AND THEY GO AFTER EACH OTHER. NOW, I REMEMBER A STORY, YOU 19:10 KNOW, I WAS TOLD THIS COUPLE GOT MARRIED AND THIS ONE SPOUSE SAID 19:15 TO THE OTHER - I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS A FEMALE OR A MALE. 19:17 ACTUALLY, I DO, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BRING THE GENDER ISSUE 19:19 INTO IT. AND SO THEY GOT MARRIED AND ONE 19:23 SAID, 'YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE MARRIED. 19:24 SO WHY DON'T WE MAKE SURE NOTHING BUILDS UP BETWEEN US.' 19:29 'ALRIGHT.' ONE SAYS, 'WELL, I'LL TELL YOU EVERYTHING YOU DID 19:32 WRONG. AT THE END OF THE WEEK WE'LL 19:33 JUST GET TOGETHER AND I'LL TELL YOU EVERYTHING YOU DID WRONG. 19:36 AND WE'LL JUST WRITE IT OUT AND WE'LL PUT IT IN THIS LITTLE 19:40 BOTTLE.' HOW MANY OF YOU THINK THAT SOUNDS LIKE A VERY GOOD 19:42 IDEA. SO THEY HAD THEIR LITTLE BOTTLES. 19:45 ONE BOTTLE FOR THIS SPOUSE, ONE BOTTLE FOR THE OTHER. 19:47 AND THEY GOT TO THE END OF THE WEEK AND THEY PULLED OUT THESE 19:49 PAPERS. OH MAN, THEY - ONE SPOUSE READ 19:53 IT AND THERE WAS THIS TERRIBLE THING. 19:55 THE TOOTHPASTE WAS BEING USED WRONG AND THE TOILET PAPER WAS 19:57 BEING USED WRONG - ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. 20:00 AND THE OTHER SPOUSE WAS LIKE, 'OH.' AND HE SAYS, 'WELL, WHAT'S 20:04 IN YOURS?' THEY OPENED UP THEIR BOTTLE AND 20:07 THEY BEGAN TO READ IT. 'I LOVE YOU. 20:09 I LOVE YOU MORE. I LOVE YOU MORE AND MORE. 20:12 I LOVE YOU LOVE YOU LOVE YOU.' WHICH ONE WAS MORE FRUITFUL? 20:17 IT WAS THE ONE THAT OVERLOOKED THOSE LITTLE TRANSGRESSIONS. 20:21 HOW MANY OF YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT IN YOUR LIVES? 20:24 OKAY, BUT HAVING SAID THAT, GOING BACK TO OUR LESSON NOW, 20:27 PROVERBS 19 - OR 17 VERSE 9 - 17 VERSE 9 - LET'S READ THAT 20:34 TOGETHER. IT WAS ALSO IN SINS AND FRIENDS. 20:38 WE BETTER HURRY UP HERE BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY ON SUNDAY'S LESSON 20:42 - BUT LET'S READ IT - 17, VERSE 9, "HE WHO COVERS A 20:44 TRANSGRESSION SEEKS LOVE, BUT HE WHO REPEATS A MATTER SEPARATES 20:51 FRIENDS." OH, THIS IS A - THIS IS ANOTHER 20:56 TEXT THAT'S KIND OF RELATED TO THE LAST ONE, ISN'T IT? 20:59 YOU KNOW I SAW THIS GUY THAT RECEIVED A LETTER - JUST THIS 21:03 LAST WEEK ON THE INTERNET NEWS - AND HE FOUND OUT THAT HE HAD - 21:08 THAT THERE WAS THIS LETTER HE FOUND FROM 1950-SOMETHING - OR 21:12 HIS WIFE HAD HIDDEN THE LETTER FROM A LADY THAT WROTE TO HIM 21:15 AND SAID THAT HE HAD A CHILD WITH HER. 21:18 SO HE HAD A CHILD THAT HE NEVER KNEW ABOUT FOR ALL THESE YEARS. 21:21 AND THE WIFE DID NOT SHOW HIM THE LETTER. 21:24 HOW MANY OF YOU SAW THIS ON THE NEWS? 21:26 AND WHEN I SAW THAT I WAS LIKE - AND THEN THE GUY WAS KIND OF 21:29 ANGRY. 'WHY DIDN'T SHE TELL ME THAT I 21:30 HAD THIS CHILD.' AND ALL THAT. BUT REALLY, I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT 21:33 WIFE. AND I THOUGHT, 'YOU KNOW WHAT? 21:34 THAT WIFE WAS PROBABLY TRYING TO DO THE BEST FOR HER MARRIAGE AND 21:36 FOR HER HUSBAND. DIDN'T WANT TO SAY - 21:38 DIDN'T WANT TO HURT HIS REPUTATION. 21:40 AND FOR HER TO KEEP THAT TO HERSELF ALL THOSE YEARS AND TRY 21:44 AND PROTECT THE REPUTATION OF THE FAMILY IN DIFFERENT THINGS. 21:46 I THOUGHT, 'WHAT A TESTIMONY TO THAT LADY.' THAT SHE ATTEMPTED 21:50 TO COVER A TRANSGRESSION SEEKING LOVE. 21:54 NOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TOLD MANY TIMES IN THE BIBLE TO NOT COVER 21:58 TRANSGRESSION. SO THE IDEA HERE IS WHY WOULD IT 22:01 SAY COVER A TRANSGRESSION IF WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO? 22:06 WELL, LET ME GIVE YOU A COUPLE TEXTS THAT COME TO MIND. 22:10 YOU CAN JUST JOT THESE DOWN BECAUSE I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME. 22:13 I THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO GO SLOWER. 22:14 I THOUGHT THIS WAS LIKE WESTERN SAVINGS TIME OR SOMETHING OUT 22:16 HERE, BUT IT'S NOT. TO COVER A TRANSGRESSION - YOU 22:21 KNOW, MATTHEW CHAPTER 18, VERSE 15, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT WHEN 22:24 YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOMEONE ELSE. 22:27 WHAT DOES IT SAY? VERSE 15? "GO TO YOUR BROTHER ALONE AND 22:35 TALK WITH HIM." DON'T GO WITH THE MEGAPHONE, 22:37 GO ALONE. AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING? 22:41 YOU'RE COVERING THAT TRANSGRESSION. 22:43 YOU DON'T WANT HIM OR HER TO LOOK BAD, YOU JUST WANT TO CLEAR 22:47 IT UP. HOW MANY OF YOU THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING TO DO? 22:51 THAT'S COVERING A TRANSGRESSION. WHAT ABOUT JOSEPH? 22:55 WHEN HE FOUND OUT THAT HIS FIANCE WAS PREGNANT BY THE HOLY 22:59 SPIRIT? I MEAN, HOW'S HE GOING TO 23:00 EXPLAIN THAT TO ANYONE ANYWAY, RIGHT? RIGHT? 23:03 SO HE GOES, 'ALRIGHT, THAT'S TRUE. 23:04 I DO BELIEVE THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD. 23:06 I BELIEVE ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE HAPPENING 23:09 DOWN AT THE 7-11 STORE HERE DOWN IN SHEKEM' - OR WHEREVER. 23:13 I'M NOT BRINGING THAT UP. I AM GOING TO PROTECT THE 23:16 REPUTATION OF MARY. DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? 23:20 IT SAYS - SO JOSEPH PUT HER AWAY - WHAT DOES IT SAY? 23:24 SECRETLY - OR QUIETLY. MATTHEW CHAPTER 1, VERSE 18 AND 19. 23:29 AND, AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WAS A SIN. 23:31 YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN? BUT HE REALIZED SOME THINGS JUST 23:35 ARE NOT GOING TO TRANSLATE TO RADIO HERE. 23:37 PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING. 23:40 PROVERBS 25:9 - LOOK AT THAT ONE SINCE WE'RE RIGHT IN PROVERBS - 23:44 PROVERBS 25:9, "DEBATE YOUR CASE WITH YOUR NEIGHBOR, AND DO NOT 23:50 DISCLOSE THE SECRET TO ANOTHER;" - THIS IS THE IDEA OF COVERING A 23:55 TRANSGRESSION. YOU KNOW, 'ALRIGHT, MY NEIGHBOR 23:58 AND I HAD THIS PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, WHY IS HE PLANTING THIS 24:02 GRAPE VINE ON MY SIDE?' WELL, NOT EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD 24:05 HAS TO KNOW ABOUT THAT. JUST GO AND TRY AND FIGURE IT 24:09 OUT. THIS IS WISE COUNSEL, ISN'T IT? 24:12 NOW, ULTIMATELY, AT THE END OF IT ALL, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY 24:18 COVERING THAT COMES FOR SIN IS THE PENALTY BEING PAID FOR IT BY 24:23 A SACRIFICE, IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, OR BY CHRIST HIMSELF. 24:27 AND I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS ONE. 24:29 I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING AS I WAS STUDYING THIS PROVERB. 24:31 PROVERBS 16 AND VERSE 6 - LOOK AT IT WITH ME - PROVERBS 16 AND 24:37 VERSE 6, "IN MERCY AND TRUTH ATONEMENT IS PROVIDED FOR 24:44 INIQUITY; AND BY THE FEAR OF THE LORD ONE DEPARTS FROM EVIL." 24:47 NOW LOOK AT THAT. 24:49 WHAT IS IT THAT REALLY COVERS THERE IN THAT VERSE? 24:51 "IN MERCY AND TRUTH" - SO MERCY AND JUSTICE - TRUTH IS ALWAYS 24:57 JUST, RIGHT? - "ATONEMENT IS PROVIDED" - YOU 25:00 KNOW WHAT THE WORD 'ATONEMENT' MEANS? 25:01 'COVERING' - COVERING IS PROVIDED. 25:05 SO THE REAL WAY WE COVER THINGS UP - OR THE REAL WAY 25:10 TRANSGRESSION IS ULTIMATELY COVERED UP IS WHAT? 25:13 BY THE SACRIFICE OF GOD HIMSELF. >>AMEN. 25:19 >>THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. IT MIGHT TAKE A SMALL SACRIFICE 25:21 FOR YOU TO 'OLAT' - TO OVERLOOK A TRANSGRESSION - TO COVER 25:23 THINGS UP. THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE TAKING 25:25 AWAY THE FACT THAT IT'S A TRANSGRESSION. 25:27 AND GOD WILL - GOD WILL TAKE CARE OF IT. 25:30 SEE, YOU'RE BEING SLOW - SLOW TO WRATH. 25:32 YOU'RE ALLOWING SPACE - YOU'RE NOT BRINGING IT OUT IN THE OPEN 25:35 SO PEOPLE GET ALL UP IN ARMS ABOUT IT. 25:37 PSALMS 85:2 WAS MENTIONED IN OUR LESSON, "YOU HAVE FORGIVEN THE 25:42 INIQUITY OF YOUR PEOPLE; YOU HAVE COVERED ALL THEIR SIN." 25:44 JESUS EVEN DID THIS ON THE CROSS - 'FATHER, FORGIVE THEM. 25:47 THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 25:49 THEY JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.' RIGHT? 25:53 ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S - LET'S CONTINUE ON AND, BY THE WAY, AT 26:00 THE END OF THAT SAME VERSE - LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT IT - "HE 26:04 WHO COVERS A TRANSGRESSION SEEKS LOVE" - THIS IS PROVERBS 17:9 26:07 AGAIN, "HE WHO COVERS A TRANSGRESSION SEEKS LOVE, BUT HE 26:11 WHO REPEATS A MATTER SEPARATES FRIENDS." 26:15 SO, IN OTHER WORDS, REALLY THE MEANING OF THE TEXT IS, YOU 26:18 KNOW, ONCE SOMETHING'S COVERED THROUGH LOVE, YOU DON'T NEED TO 26:24 TELL ANYONE ELSE ABOUT IT. I FORGAVE THEM. 26:28 THEY FORGAVE ME. THEN WHY EVEN TELL ANYONE ELSE ABOUT IT? 26:31 BUT THE PROBLEM IS WE LIKE - 'I WAS QUITE RIGHTEOUS. 26:34 LET ME MENTION TO YOU HOW BENEVOLENT AND LOVING I WAS.' 26:40 'WELL, WHAT DID THEY DO TO YOU?' YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST NOT 26:43 HELPFUL. HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN 26:45 TEMPTED TO DO THAT? WHEN YOU'RE SAYING, 'WELL, WAIT 26:48 A MINUTE, I'M NOT TEMPTED TO DO THAT. 26:50 THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING SOMEONE ELSE WOULD DO.' WELL, 26:52 I'M GOING TO COME TO A STATISTIC THAT MIGHT MAKE YOU SHAKE IN 26:56 YOUR LITTLE PADDED SEAT TONIGHT, BUT I LIKE HOW ONE PREACHER PUT 27:02 IT - JOHN PIPER - HE SAID, 'DON'T TALK ABOUT PEOPLE'S 27:05 FAULTS, TALK TO THEM ABOUT THEIR FAULTS.' OKAY, SO REPEATING THE 27:11 MATTER WILL SEPARATE FRIENDS. NOW HERE'S THE STATISTIC, OKAY? 27:14 THEY DID RESEARCH - AT LEAST THIS IS WHAT GOOGLE TOLD ME, 27:19 OKAY? AND IT WAS A GOOGLE 27:22 SCHOLAR SO THIS IS VERY REPUTABLE. 27:24 IT ACTUALLY HAD REFERENCES AND EVERYTHING. 27:28 ABOUT 60 PERCENT OF CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN ADULTS ARE 27:33 ABOUT SOMEONE WHO IS NOT PRESENT. 27:37 60 PERCENT - AND MOST OF THOSE ARE PASSING JUDGMENT ON THE 27:43 PERSON WHO IS NOT THERE. YOU KNOW WHAT THAT'S CALLED IN 27:46 THE BIBLE? GOSSIP - 60 PERCENT. 27:50 AND, BY THE WAY, THEY STUDIED, YOU KNOW, CORPORATIONS. 27:55 THE ASSISTANT PROFESSOR, ERIC GILBERT, OF THE SCHOOL 27:59 OF INTERACTIVE COMPUTING, LOOKED AT - AND YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND 28:02 LOOK AT THIS IF YOU WANT - THE ENRON CORPUS. 28:05 THIS WAS 600,000 E-MAILS THAT WERE SENT AMONG 158 EMPLOYEES. 28:11 ENRON WAS THAT COMPANY THAT, YEARS AGO, TANKED BECAUSE THEY - 28:15 OF MISMANAGEMENT AND, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, SOME DISHONESTY - AND 28:21 THEY LOOKED AT ALL THESE E-MAILS AND THE AVERAGE PERSON IN THAT 28:26 ORGANIZATION SENT 112 E-MAILS A DAY AND THEY WENT THROUGH IT AND 28:33 THIS IS WHAT THEY DID: THEY SAID ANY E-MAIL THAT MENTIONS 28:35 ANYTHING ABOUT SOMEONE WHERE THE PERSON IS NOT IN THE SUBJECT 28:40 LINE OR IN THE CC LINE, THAT'S GOSSIP, SO THEY LOOKED AT IT. 28:46 AND THEY LOOKED AT ALL THOSE AND GUESS WHAT THEY DISCOVERED? 28:49 15 PERCENT OF THOSE E-MAILS WERE GOSSIP. 28:54 AND GOSSIP, HOWEVER, WHEN THEY STUDIED IT, WAS AT EVERY LEVEL 28:58 OF THE ORGANIZATION - FROM THE VERY TOP DOWN. 29:02 NOW THIS IS WHAT THEY DID FIND, AND THIS MIGHT BE INSTRUCTIVE 29:04 TO US. THOSE AT THE TOP DID A LOT LESS 29:07 GOSSIPING THAN THOSE AT THE BOTTOM. 29:09 MAYBE THAT'S WHY THEY WERE AT THE TOP, I DON'T KNOW. 29:12 THE LOWEST RANKED EMPLOYEES GOSSIPED MOST AND, USUALLY, 29:16 THREE - THERE WAS THREE TIMES MORE NEGATIVE THAN POSITIVE 29:20 GOSSIP. I MEAN, THERE IS POSITIVE 29:23 GOSSIP, YOU KNOW, 'MAN, THIS GUY IS - YOU KNOW, THAT DON, HE IS 29:26 GREAT.' YOU KNOW? I'M NOT GIVING YOU ANY IDEAS. 29:30 ANYWAY, SO SOMEONE WHO REPEATS A MATTER. 29:36 OKAY, NUMBER 2 REBUKING AND CONFRONTING SIN IS OUR LESSON - 29:44 LET'S SEE, WHERE IS THAT? WHAT DAY IS THAT? 29:49 I KIND OF GOT THAT OUT OF ORDER, BUT LET'S JUST SAY IT GOES WITH 29:54 MONDAY - BE JUST - OKAY? 29:57 AND WE'LL LOOK THERE AT VERSE 10 OF CHAPTER 17. 30:02 CHAPTER 17 AND OUR PROVERBS VERSE 10, "REBUKE IS MORE 30:06 EFFECTIVE FOR A WISE MAN THAN A HUNDRED BLOWS ON A FOOL." 30:09 - AND THEN VERSE 25, THEY ALSO MENTION THERE - THIS IS CHAPTER 30:13 19, VERSE 25, "STRIKE A SCOFFER, AND THE SIMPLE WILL BECOME WARY; 30:18 REBUKE ONE WHO HAS UNDERSTANDING, AND HE WILL 30:21 DISCERN KNOWLEDGE." SO RIGHT AFTER IT SAYS 'OLAT,' - 30:24 WHAT DOES THAT STAND FOR? >>OVERLOOK A TRANSGRESSION. 30:26 >>'OVERLOOK A TRANSGRESSION.' IT SAYS, WAIT A MINUTE, REBUKE. 30:33 THERE IS A PLACE FOR REBUKE THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF. 30:38 SO THIS IDEA OF REBUKE - LET'S TALK ABOUT REBUKE JUST FOR A 30:42 MINUTE. IS REBUKE A GOOD THING? 30:46 HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN REBUKED AND FOUND THAT 30:48 THAT WAS A GOOD THING? 30:50 YEAH, MAYBE NOT RIGHT THEN, BUT YOU THINK ABOUT IT IN THE BIBLE. 30:56 MANY TURNING POINTS IN THE BIBLE CAME BECAUSE OF REBUKE. 30:59 REMEMBER PAUL, HE REBUKED PETER BECAUSE PETER, KIND OF, WAS 31:04 TREATING PEOPLE THE WRONG WAY IN GALATIANS CHAPTER 2. 31:07 AND REMEMBER JESUS, WHAT DID HE SAY? 31:10 LUKE CHAPTER 17 AND VERSE 3, "TAKE HEED TO YOURSELVES. 31:15 IF YOUR BROTHER" - OR SISTER - "SINS AGAINST YOU, REBUKE HIM; 31:17 AND IF HE REPENTS, FORGIVE HIM." SO THERE IS A PLACE FOR REBUKE, 31:22 YOU KNOW, THERE REALLY IS. NOW, I MEAN, PRACTICALLY PUT. 31:27 IF YOU'RE A FATHER OR YOU'RE A PARENT OR YOU'RE A MOTHER, I 31:31 MEAN, YOUR LOT IN LIFE IS TO - GODLY - IN A GODLY FASHION, 31:35 REBUKE YOUR CHILDREN. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE IN EXISTENCE, 31:37 RIGHT? IS THAT RIGHT OR AM I WRONG? 31:41 >>YES. >>RIGHT? 31:43 NOW, SOMETIMES YOUR CHILDREN WILL ALSO REBUKE YOU AND THAT'S 31:47 ALSO A GOOD THING. I REMEMBER ONCE MY LITTLE 31:49 DAUGHTER, WE TAUGHT HER THIS MEMORY VERSE. 31:50 THE MEMORY VERSE WAS 'DO NOT REBEL AGAINST THE LORD.' 31:54 WELL, SHE LOVED THAT MEMORY VERSE. 31:56 SHE FOLLOWED ME AROUND ALL DAY ONE DAY, 'DO NOT REBEL AGAINST 32:00 THE LORD.' I'M NEXT TO THE REFRIGERATOR, 'DO NOT REBEL 32:04 AGAINST THE LORD.' I WAS LIKE, 'I NEEDED THAT, THANK YOU.' I'M 32:07 NEXT TO THE TELEVISION SET, 'DO NOT REBEL.' 'THANK YOU.' 32:11 YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN? SO GOD CAN USE IT BOTH WAYS - 32:14 AND HE CAN EVEN USE A DONKEY. REVELATION CHAPTER 3 AND VERSE 32:19 19, "AS MANY AS I LOVE, I REBUKE AND CHASTEN." 32:26 - NOW THIS IS - THIS IS ACTUALLY AN INSTRUCTIONAL WORD - TO 32:30 REBUKE MEANS TO NOT AGREE WITH A THOUGHT OR SOMETHING SOMEONE HAS 32:35 DONE - AND TO CHASTEN MEANS NOT JUST TO PUNISH BUT MEANS TO 32:40 CORRECT AND GET BACK IN THE RIGHT PATH. 32:43 THIS IS LIKE WHAT HAPPENS IN SCHOOL. 32:45 THIS IS WHY YOU SEND YOUR KIDS AWAY TO SCHOOL - BECAUSE YOU GO, 32:49 'OKAY, THE BURDEN IS TOO GREAT. I'LL PAY WHATEVER PRICE. 32:52 GO.' - YOU REBUKE. YOU CHASTEN THEM, RIGHT? 32:55 WHICH IS A FUNCTION THAT'S HANDED OVER OF A PARENT. 33:00 YOU'RE STILL RESPONSIBLE BUT YOU'RE PICKING THE SCHOOL FOR A 33:03 CHILD UNTIL A CERTAIN CASE. YES OR NO? 33:05 SO REBUKE AND CHASTEN. 33:06 WE DO THIS ALL THE TIME IN OUR - IN OUR THERAPY SESSIONS AND 33:10 WHATNOT WITH DEPRESSED FOLKS, WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH, YOU 33:13 KNOW, THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE SUFFERING FROM MAJOR DEPRESSION. 33:17 MANY TIMES THEY HAVE THE WRONG THOUGHTS AND THESE WRONG 33:21 THOUGHTS ARE THEN CREATING THE WRONG FEELINGS. 33:25 AND THESE WRONG THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS THEN LEAD TO THE WRONG 33:28 ACTIONS AND SO WE DO SOMETHING CALLED 'COGNITIVE BEHAVIORAL 33:31 THERAPY.' WE'RE GOING, 'WAIT A MINUTE, YOUR COGNITIONS - YOUR 33:33 THOUGHTS - ARE WRONG AND SO YOU NEED TO CHANGE THOSE THOUGHTS.' 33:38 AND FOR A MINUTE, YOU KNOW, YOU TELL SOMEONE THAT AND THEY'RE 33:42 JUST LIKE, 'WHAT? YOU'RE TELLING ME MY THOUGHTS ARE WRONG?' 33:45 YOU'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL, RIGHT? 33:47 BECAUSE THERE'S PRIDE THAT COMES IN. 33:51 PRIDE THAT COMES IN - HEY, YOU KNOW, AND THIS ISN'T IN MY 33:53 LESSON, BUT LET ME GIVE YOU FOUR QUICK POINTS ON THAT, OKAY? 33:55 FOUR POINTS - THIS IS FROM UCLA - ON HOW TO HELP CONFRONT 34:01 SOMEONE. NUMBER 1, WHEN YOU'RE CONFRONTING SOMEONE, YOU HELP 34:06 THEM RE-LABEL THE SITUATION - NUMBER 1 - RE-LABEL. 34:10 IF YOU'RE WRITING THIS DOWN, WRITE IT DOWN - RE-LABEL - 34:12 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 34:13 THE APOSTLE PAUL DID THIS ALL THE TIME. 34:15 HE SAID, 'THIS IS NOT ME BUT SIN THAT DWELLETH IN ME.' NOTICE HE 34:18 WAS RE-LABELING THERE, WASN'T HE? 34:20 NUMBER 2 - YOU'RE RE-LABELING - YOU'RE RE-ATTRIBUTING IT, SO TO 34:24 REATTRIBUTE - THEY DID RESEARCH WITH FOLKS THAT WERE DEPRESSED 34:30 AND THEY FOUND OUT THAT MANY OF THESE NEGATIVE AUTOMATIC 34:33 THOUGHTS THAT THEY HAD, GUESS WHERE THEY'RE COMING - THEY'RE 34:35 COMING FROM THIS SECTION OF THE BRAIN - THE MID-BRAIN - NOT THE 34:37 FRONT BRAIN. AND THEY'RE SAYING, 'OKAY, 34:41 RE-LABEL IT, BUT LET'S SEE WHERE IT IS. 34:43 REATTRIBUTE IT - IT'S IN THIS PART OF THE BRAIN, NOT HERE. 34:45 NOW WHICH PART OF THE BRAIN IS SUPPOSED TO LEAD YOU AROUND? 34:48 THIS PART OF THE BRAIN, NOT THIS. SO YOU REATTRIBUTE IT. 34:51 AND THEY'D SHOW THEM THE PICTURES OF THEIR BRAINS AND 34:53 THEY'D GO, 'OH WAIT A MINUTE. 34:54 IT'S IN THAT SECTION OF THE BRAIN.' NUMBER 3 - REFOCUS - 34:57 THAT MEANS TO CHOOSE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 35:00 NOW YOU MIGHT CHOOSE IT ON THE BASIS OF A PROVERB OR ON THE 35:04 BASIS OF A REBUKE SOMEONE BROUGHT TO YOU - YOU KNOW, IT 35:08 GETS YOUR ATTENTION. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING? 35:09 - I REMEMBER ONCE, I WAS A NURSE - BEFORE I WAS A PASTOR - BEFORE 35:12 I WAS A TEACHER - AND THIS LADY, HER NAME WAS EILEEN, AND EILEEN 35:17 SAID TO ME, 'YOU KNOW WHAT? 35:18 YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING A NURSE. 35:21 YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 35:22 YOU'RE MISTREATING THE PATIENTS.' I WOULDN'T LISTEN TO 35:25 HER SO ONE DAY SHE SAID, 'COME HERE.' AND WE WERE IN THE DIRTY 35:28 UTILITY ROOM. NOW THAT SOUNDS REALLY BAD, BUT 35:30 THAT'S JUST WHERE ALL THE DIRTY UTENSILS WERE. 35:31 AND WE WERE IN THIS DIRTY UTILITY ROOM AND SHE GOES 'LEAN 35:36 DOWN HERE FOR A MINUTE.' I LEANED DOWN, SHE GRABBED MY NECK 35:38 AND SHE STARTED HITTING ME ON THE HEAD WITH A BEDPAN. 35:41 NOW IMAGINE THAT. I MEAN, HERE I AM, YOU KNOW, 35:44 I'M TEACHING SABBATH SCHOOL HERE AND JUST PICTURE THAT - 35:46 I'M GETTING HIT WITH A BEDPAN. BUT WHAT WAS SHE TRYING TO DO? 35:48 SHE SAID TO ME, 'I'VE GOT TO GET YOUR ATTENTION!' 35:52 - SHE WAS ABOUT 65 AND I WAS ABOUT 25 - AND SHE SAID, 'YOU 35:55 ARE NOT DOING WHAT YOU SHOULD DO.' AND I BEGAN TO WATCH HER. 35:58 SHE WAS ALWAYS WITH THE PATIENTS. 36:00 SHE WAS ALWAYS RUBBING THEIR BACKS. 36:02 SHE WAS ALWAYS MINISTERING TO THEM. YOU KNOW WHAT? 36:04 IT CHANGED COURSE - WHEN YOU GET HIT IN THE HEAD WITH A BEDPAN IT 36:06 CHANGES YOUR LIFE. >>IT SURE DOES. 36:08 >>SO RE-LABEL, REATTRIBUTE, REFOCUS AND THEN, LAST ARE, 36:16 REVALUE ON THE BASIS OF TRUTH. SEE, THAT'S WHAT REBUKE IS. 36:22 REBUKE IS BASED ON WHAT? TRUTH. 36:26 IT'S SAYING, 'LOOK, THERE'S A TRUTH YOU NEED TO KNOW. 36:29 AND THAT'S THE - "AS MANY AS I LOVE, I REBUKE AND CHASTEN." 36:33 ALRIGHT, LET'S HEAD ON TO OUR NEXT POINT. 36:37 TUESDAY'S LESSON - WORDS, AGAIN - THEY HAD US READ THE ENTIRE 36:41 CHAPTER OF PROVERBS 18 AND, YOU KNOW, IT HAD US FOCUS ON WORDS. 36:51 NOW I LOOKED UP WORDS - THE STATISTICS CONCERNING WORDS - 36:55 THE AVERAGE PERSON, AND I GUESS I WOULD LIVE UP TO THIS TONIGHT 36:59 BECAUSE NONE OF YOU ALL HAVE MICROPHONES, I GUESS JUST I DO. 37:02 THE AVERAGE PERSON SPENDS 20 PERCENT OF THEIR WAKING HOURS 37:07 TALKING. AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE 37:10 INNER MONOLOGUES OR SELF-TALK THAT YOU HAVE. 37:13 NOW THAT'S A LOT OF SPEECH, ISN'T IT? 37:16 A COUPLE LESSONS HERE FROM PROVERBS CHAPTER 18, 37:20 REMEMBER VERSE 2 WAS BROUGHT OUT. 37:22 LOOK AT THAT WITH ME, PROVERBS 18 AND VERSE 2, "A FOOL HAS NO 37:29 DELIGHT IN UNDERSTANDING, BUT IN EXPRESSING HIS OWN HEART." 37:35 YEAH, SO HE JUST WANTS TO TALK ALL THE TIME AND NEVER LISTEN. 37:42 HAVE YOU EVER MET ANYONE LIKE THAT? 37:43 YEAH, YOU JUST - I REMEMBER ONCE I WAS TALKING TO THIS GUY, I 37:48 WON'T MENTION HIS NAME BECAUSE I'VE READ THAT PROVERB THAT SAYS 37:53 DON'T MENTION IT, BUT I WAS WATCHING HIM ONE DAY AND HE WAS 37:56 SO GOOD AT SPEAKING AND TALKING THAT I LOOKED AT HIM AND I WAS 38:01 IN THE CAR WITH HIM - I HADN'T SAID ANYTHING FOR ABOUT TWO 38:03 YEARS. I MEAN, I WAS, YOU KNOW - AND 38:08 I'M QUITE A TALKER, RIGHT? BUT I WAS SILENCED. 38:10 THIS GUY WAS JUST LIKE - HE WAS TALKING AND I WATCHED HIM. 38:13 HE WAS TALKING AS HE BREATHED OUT AND AS HE BREATHED IN. 38:18 I WAS LIKE, 'ARE YOU TALKING WHILE YOU'RE BREATHING IN AND 38:21 OUT? HE GOES, 'YES, I LEARNED IT WHILE I WAS A LITERATURE 38:24 EVANGELIST.' BUT A FOOL - I'M NOT SAYING LITERATURE 38:29 EVANGELISTS ARE FOOLS, DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT ALWAYS TALKING AND 38:32 NEVER LISTENING NEVER REALLY GETS YOU ANY UNDERSTANDING. 38:38 AND IT CERTAINLY IS NOT THE BEST THING FOR CONFLICT. 38:43 REMEMBER OUR RULES FOR CONFLICT: NUMBER 1, AVOID IT IF YOU CAN. 38:48 NUMBER 2, OVERLOOK A TRANSGRESSION. 38:50 NUMBER 3, COVER OR FORGIVE. NUMBER 4, WE TALKED ABOUT DON'T 38:53 REPEAT OR GOSSIP. AND NUMBER 5, WE'RE TALKING 38:57 ABOUT CONFRONTING AND NOW WE'RE MENTIONING HERE, WATCH YOUR 38:59 WORDS. CAN YOU ESCALATE A SITUATION 39:04 SOMETIMES IF YOU KEEP TALKING? >>YES. 39:06 >>YOU KNOW, I HAVE ANOTHER - THEY DID STUDIES OF MEN AND 39:13 WOMEN - AND I'M GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE - AND THEY FOUND OUT ONE 39:19 OF THE PROBLEMS WITH MEN IS THAT THEY STONEWALL. 39:22 STONEWALLING IS WHERE THE WIFE IS TALKING AND THE GUY IS JUST 39:26 SITTING THERE. >>NOT LISTENING. 39:29 >>AND KIND OF LIKE LOOKING LIKE THIS AND, ACTUALLY, THEY MIGHT 39:32 PHYSICALLY MOVE THEIR BODY AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE NOT 39:36 LISTENING, BUT THEY ARE LISTENING. 39:38 IN FACT, THEY DISCOVERED THIS AT THE GOTTMAN INSTITUTE. 39:41 THEY HOOKED THEM ALL UP TO MONITORS AND THEY TOOK THESE 39:44 HUSBANDS AND WIVES AND THEY PUT THEM IN THIS ROOM AND THEY HAD 39:47 CAMERAS ON THEM AND THEY WATCHED THEM AND THEY WATCHED THEIR 39:49 FACIAL EXPRESSIONS AND EVERYTHING AND THEY KNEW EXACTLY 39:51 WHAT WAS HAPPENING. THE GUY WILL NOT LISTEN, BUT 39:54 THEY TOOK HIS HEART RATE AND HIS BLOOD PRESSURE - IT WAS 39:58 SKYROCKETING. IT WAS HERE AND HIS INTERNAL 40:00 TALK WAS THIS: 'I CAN'T BELIEVE SHE'S SAYING THAT TO ME. 40:03 MAYBE SHE'LL GO AWAY IF I LOOK COMATOSE.' YOU KNOW, AND SO THIS 40:07 STONEWALLING - NOW, HERE'S THE THING. 40:09 THE LADIES THOUGHT, 'HE'S NOT LISTENING TO ME. 40:12 I NEED TO GO SLAP HIM UPSIDE THE HEAD. 40:14 I'M GOING TO GET HIS ATTENTION. WE'VE GOT TO GET TO THE BOTTOM 40:16 OF THIS RIGHT NOW.' THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 40:19 YOU KNOW WHAT THE GOOD THING TO DO IS TO SAY, 'IT'S OBVIOUS 40:23 THAT, WHILE IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO ME, YOU 40:27 PROBABLY ARE AND I NEED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE SPACE. 40:29 BUT I DO WANT TO TALK, HONEY.' - HONEY - YOU KNOW, SAY IT JUST 40:34 REALLY NICE LIKE 'HONEY, I DO WANT TO TALK BUT LET'S GIVE EACH 40:38 OTHER SPACE AND COME BACK.' HOW MANY OF YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING 40:40 HERE? SO WORDS - MORE WORDS - WOULD 40:43 NOT REALLY HELP AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME. 40:50 WHICH BRINGS US TO CHAPTER 18, VERSE 4. LOOK AT 18, VERSE 4, 40:58 WHICH WAS ALSO BROUGHT OUT IN OUR LESSON. LET'S LOOK AT IT, 41:01 "THE WORDS OF A MAN'S MOUTH ARE DEEP WATERS; THE WELLSPRING 41:06 OF WISDOM IS A FLOWING BROOK." WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 41:11 FIRST OF ALL, YOU'VE GOT YOUR FOOL WHO'S ALWAYS TALKING - 41:15 NOT CONNECTED TO REALITY, OKAY? HAS NO UNDERSTANDING. 41:19 BUT NEXT YOU HAVE THIS PICTURE OF SOMEONE WHOSE WORDS ARE LIKE 41:23 DEEP WATERS. I MEAN, THE MORE YOU TALK ABOUT 41:25 IT, YOU'RE LIKE, 'WOW, THAT WAS DEEP.' RIGHT? I REMEMBER ONCE, 41:34 I WAS TALKING LIKE A FOOL TO MY CONFERENCE PRESIDENT. 41:37 I WAS A PASTOR IN THE MIDDLE OF AMERICA IN KANSAS AND I WAS 41:40 TELLING HIM, 'ELDER, I'M GOING TO GO OUT AND VISIT AND I'M 41:43 GOING TO MAKE SURE AND CLEAN UP THESE BOOKS AND I'VE JUST FOUND 41:46 THIS AND THAT.' AND I WAS JUST GOING ON AND ON AND ON AND ON 41:49 AND HE GOES - AND I GO, 'SO WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?' 41:51 AND I'M ON THE PHONE AND HE JUST SAYS TO ME, 'DON, IT DOESN'T DO 41:57 MUCH GOOD TO KICK A DEAD HORSE.' I WAS LIKE, 'WHAT IN THE WORLD 42:02 IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT?' 'IT DOESN'T DO MUCH GOOD TO KICK 42:05 A DEAD HORSE.' I HUNG UP THE PHONE AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT 42:10 FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS. AND THEN I UNDERSTOOD IT. 42:12 YOU SEE, HIS WORDS WERE DEEP AND THERE WAS A LOT OF WISDOM. 42:17 HE WASN'T GOING TO TRY AND THROW WATER ON ME RIGHT THEN, BUT HE 42:20 HAD THESE WORDS THAT WERE WISE. SO THE WORDS OF A MAN'S MOUTH 42:23 ARE DEEP WATERS - THEY'RE LIKE A WELLSPRING OF WISDOM THAT IS A 42:27 FLOWING BROOK. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER 42:32 ELDER LESLIE HARDINGE. I LOVED THAT GUY. 42:36 I LOVED TO LISTEN TO THAT GUY PREACH. 42:37 I BROUGHT HIM TO MY CHURCH ONE DAY, HE WAS PREACHING, AND I 42:40 SAID TO HIM, 'ELDER HARDINGE, IT SAYS RIGHT HERE IN THIS BOOK 42:45 THAT THE SERMON IS ONLY TEN PERCENT OF THE WORK. 42:49 NINETY PERCENT IS IN VISITATION. 42:51 I WANT YOU TO GO VISITING WITH ME.' HE GIVES ME THIS LOOK LIKE, 42:54 'ALRIGHT.' SO I TAKE HIM OUT TO THESE PLACES VISITING AND I TOOK 43:00 HIM INTO THIS ONE LADY'S HOUSE - I STILL REMEMBER IT - SHE WAS 43:03 ASKING HIM QUESTIONS, 'WELL, WHAT DO I DO WITH JOHNNY? 43:05 WELL, WHAT DO I DO WITH TIMMY? WELL HOW DO I TAKE THIS MESSAGE 43:08 AND APPLY IT TO MY HUSBAND?' AND HE WAS JUST GIVING THESE 43:11 ONE LINERS AND THEY WEREN'T LONG, YOU KNOW? 43:15 LIKE ONE THING I THINK SHE SAID WAS 'WELL WHY IS IT THAT HE DOES 43:18 THIS?' AND HE GOES, 'MA'AM' - NO, HE 43:23 DIDN'T HAVE A TWANG LIKE THIS, I'M JUST - I DON'T KNOW WHAT 43:25 CAME OVER ME - HE GOES, 'MA'AM, YOU KNOW IF I COULD GIVE YOU A 43:30 REASON, IT WOULD BE REASONABLE.' I SAID, 'MAN, THAT IS THE MOST 43:35 BRILLIANT ANSWER I EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE.' AND SHE'S LIKE, 'WELL, 43:39 WELL, WELL, I SUPPOSE YOU'RE RIGHT!' 43:41 I SAID, 'WE HAVE TO GO.' SHE SAID, 'NO, NO, NO, NO! 43:44 DON'T TAKE HIM AWAY. YOU CAN GO BUT LEAVE HIM HERE.' 43:47 I MEAN, I DIDN'T TAKE TOO MUCH OFFENSE. 43:50 I SAID, 'WELL WHY DO YOU WANT HIM TO STAY?' 43:51 SHE GOES, 'YOU JUST LEAVE HIM IN THE CORNER. 43:53 I WANT HIM TO TALK ALL DAY.' YOU SEE, BECAUSE HE WAS A WISE MAN 43:58 AND HIS WORDS WERE DEEP AND IT SAYS THAT "THE WELLSPRING OF 44:03 WISDOM IS A FLOWING BROOK" AND WISDOM IS ALWAYS - THIS IS THE 44:07 WISDOM OF GOD IN THE PROVERBS, RIGHT? 44:08 AND IT COMES FROM ABOVE AND IT'S FIRST OF ALL PEACEABLE AND IT 44:13 ENTREATS AND IT BRINGS HOPE AND HELP. 44:15 CHAPTER 10, VERSE 11 - PROVERBS CHAPTER 10, VERSE 11 GOES ALONG 44:20 WITH IT, "THE MOUTH OF THE RIGHTEOUS IS A WELL OF LIFE, BUT 44:26 VIOLENCE COVERS THE MOUTH OF THE WICKED." 44:28 SO IF YOU'RE A RIGHTEOUS PERSON, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SEEK YOU OUT. 44:35 THEY WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU'VE HEARD, BECAUSE YOU DON'T REALLY 44:38 HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY UNLESS YOU HEARD IT FROM GOD, RIGHT? 44:41 AND THEY WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HEARD, WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY, 44:43 BECAUSE IT'S WISDOM FROM ABOVE. HOW MANY OF YOU WANT TO BE WISE? 44:46 IN PROVERBS, YOU KNOW, IT TALKS ABOUT LISTENING TO THE COUNSEL 44:52 WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE OLDER - GO LOOK AT IT - 44:58 PROVERBS CHAPTER 19, VERSE 20, "LISTEN TO COUNSEL AND RECEIVE 45:02 INSTRUCTION," - 19:20 - "THAT YOU MAY BE WISE IN YOUR LATTER 45:09 DAYS." NOW I TELL YOU WHAT, THERE'S 45:12 SOMETHING - I LIVED WITH MY GRANDFATHER. 45:14 HE WAS 86 YEARS OLD WHEN HE MOVED IN WITH ME. 45:16 NOW THIS GUY, I JUST LOVED LISTENING TO HIM. 45:18 HE WAS LIKE - I'D COME HOME AND I WOULD HAVE A TORRENT OF WORDS 45:22 AND THEN HE'D GO, 'WELL,' AND THEN HE'D JUST SAY LIKE THREE 45:25 THINGS AND I'D BE THINKING FOR TEN DAYS. 45:28 HOW MANY OF YOU WANT TO BUILD THAT UP NOW? 45:31 YOU KNOW, WE NEED WHITE BLOOD CELLS IN THE CHURCH. 45:34 WE DON'T JUST NEED RED BLOOD CELLS, AMEN? 45:37 WE NEED SOME WHITE BLOOD CELLS. 45:39 I HAD THEM DYE MY HAIR THIS COLOR FOR TONIGHT, JUST TO MAKE 45:41 IT LOOK LIKE I'M LOOKING A LITTLE WHITER. 45:43 ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S KEEP GOING ON HERE. 45:48 BY THE WAY, I THINK ONE OF OUR TEXTS, LEST I FORGET IT, WAS 45:53 18:21 IN THE LESSON THIS WEEK AND THIS MAKES PERFECT - PERFECT 45:58 SENSE - 18:21, "DEATH AND LIFE ARE IN THE POWER OF THE TONGUE 46:03 AND THOSE WHO LOVE IT WILL EAT ITS FRUIT." 46:06 IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THESE PEOPLE THAT YOU BRING 46:09 IN - THESE ARE THE WISE GUYS - THESE ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE THE 46:12 WISDOM FROM ABOVE AND IF YOU BRING THEM IN, THEIR WORDS ARE 46:16 GOING TO BRING LIFE. BUT IF YOU BRING THE OTHERS IN, 46:19 IT'S GOING TO KILL - HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE EVER SAID, 'YOU KNOW 46:22 WHAT, WE NEED TO HAVE THIS GUY SPEAK TONIGHT, NOT THIS OTHER 46:27 GUY, THIS GUY?' YOU SEE, BECAUSE THERE'S DEATH 46:32 AND LIFE IN THE TONGUE. ALRIGHT, MAN I TELL YOU, TIME IS 46:40 JUST FLEEING BY. WE ONLY HAVE FIVE MORE MINUTES. 46:42 I BETTER TELL THEM ABOUT THIS OFFER AGAIN, RIGHT? 46:45 YOU GUYS ARE WATCHING HERE - THE TINY TROUBLEMAKER - OF COURSE, 46:49 WHAT'S THAT TINY TROUBLEMAKER? IT'S YOUR TONGUE. 46:52 IT MIGHT BE YOUR EAR - HE WHO HAS AN EAR LET HIM HEAR, BUT IN 46:55 THIS CASE, IT'S THE TONGUE. SO THE TINY TROUBLEMAKER - WE 46:58 WANT TO SEND IT TO YOU - OR AMAZING FACTS - A WONDERFUL 47:01 MINISTRY - HAS ALL KINDS OF FREE RESOURCES. 47:03 AND, AGAIN, THIS ONE - #196 - OFFER #196 - HERE'S THE NUMBER 47:08 YOU CALL 866-788-3966 - THAT'S 866-788-3966 OR 866-STUDY-MORE - 47:19 THAT'LL HELP YOU REMEMBER IT, OKAY? 47:22 OFFER #196 - THE TINY TROUBLEMAKER . 47:25 ALRIGHT, NOW ANOTHER PART OF OUR LESSON, AND WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE 47:28 UP HERE IN OUR NEXT FIVE MINUTES, IS HEARING 47:31 BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY IS ANOTHER ONE. 47:34 CHAPTER 18 AND VERSE 17, "THE FIRST ONE TO PLEAD HIS CAUSE 47:42 SEEMS RIGHT UNTIL HIS NEIGHBOR COMES AND EXAMINES HIM." 47:46 NOW, I DO A LOT OF COUNSELING THESE DAYS IN MY LIFE AND I'VE 47:54 LEARNED SOMETHING, BOTH WITH MY CHILDREN, MY CHURCH MEMBERS, 47:58 AND ESPECIALLY WITH MARRIED COUPLES. 48:00 NEVER LISTEN TO ONE SIDE OF THE STORY. 48:04 DON'T SAY MUCH OF ANYTHING UNTIL YOU HEAR BOTH SIDES OF THE 48:09 STORY. AND WHY IS THAT? 48:13 BECAUSE I FOUND AN INTERESTING STUDY THAT WAS DONE BY AN 48:20 ATTORNEY SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S REALLY TOTALLY ACCURATE. 48:23 AND HE SAID THAT IN THE STUDY, HIMSELF, AS A JOKE. 48:26 I THINK GOOD ATTORNEYS ARE GREAT. 48:29 I FOUND AN INTERESTING STUDY THAT SAID THE AVERAGE PERSON, IF 48:32 THEY'RE IN CONVERSATION FOR MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES, THEY'VE TOLD 48:36 A LIE. AND THE STUDY FOUND THAT THE 48:39 PRIMARY REASON THEY LIE IS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO TWIST THE 48:42 TRUTH TO MAKE THEMSELVES LOOK BETTER. 48:44 SO THERE'S A LOT OF THAT GOING ON. 48:46 SO HERE IN PROVERBS CHAPTER 18 AND 19, THE WHOLE IDEA IS LYING 48:51 IN COURT, IT SEEMS TO BE, CHAPTER 19, VERSE 5, 48:56 FOR INSTANCE, "A FALSE WITNESS WILL NOT GO UNPUNISHED AND HE 49:00 WHO SPEAKS LIES WILL NOT ESCAPE." 49:03 IF YOU'RE UNDER OATH - 'I SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE 49:05 WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP ME GOD.' YOU 49:08 KNOW, THAT'S WHY THEY TAKE THAT OATH. 49:11 A FALSE WITNESS WILL NOT GO UNPUNISHED. 49:14 WHAT IS DESIRED IN A MAN IS KINDNESS AND A POOR MAN IS - A 49:19 POOR MAN IS BETTER THAN A - WHAT DOES IT SAY? 49:22 A LIAR. TELLING THE TRUTH WHEN YOU'RE IN 49:25 CONFLICT IS THE BEST POLICY. IT'S THE BEST POLICY. 49:31 OVERLOOK A TRANSGRESSION, COVER IT, PRE-EMPTIVELY AVOID IT, 49:34 DON'T GOSSIP, CONFRONT WHEN YOU NEED TO, WATCH YOUR WORDS, BUT 49:38 LISTEN TO BOTH SIDES, BUT THEN TELL THE TRUTH. 49:41 VERSE 8 - OR 28 - "A DISPUTABLE WITNESS" - THIS IS CHAPTER 19, 49:48 VERSE 28, "A DISREPUTABLE (RATHER) WITNESS SCORNS JUSTICE 49:52 AND THE MOUTH OF THE WICKED DEVOURS INIQUITY." 49:57 SO WE NEED TO BE TELLING THE TRUTH AND WE NEED TO NOT BE 50:02 PERPETUATING LIES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE TRUTH WILL ACTUALLY, 50:08 YOU KNOW, FIND YOU OUT. I REMEMBER ONCE AN ATTORNEY TOLD 50:11 ME A STORY ABOUT HE WAS IN WORKMEN'S COMP AND COMP CLAIMS 50:16 AND I WOULD GO WATCH THESE CASES SOMETIMES WHEN I WAS A PASTOR. 50:19 AND I'M NOW A PASTOR AGAIN, BUT - AND I LOVE - I LOVE THAT WORK 50:23 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU GET TO MEET PEOPLE AND SEE WHAT THEY 50:26 DO. BUT I WENT WITH THESE FOLKS TO A 50:28 COURT CASE AND THEY WERE ALWAYS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THESE 50:31 WORKMEN'S COMP - THAT THEY'D GET THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT. 50:34 AND THEY'D HAVE THIS ATTORNEY ON ONE SIDE AND THE OTHER SIDE AND 50:36 THEY WERE ACTING LIKE SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED AND THEY WERE 50:38 REALLY, REALLY KIND OF TRYING TO LIE, BASICALLY. 50:40 AND THIS GUY HAD HAD IT IN THE BAG AND IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS 50:43 GOING TO WIN THIS HUGE SETTLEMENT AND THEN THE OTHER 50:46 ATTORNEY GETS UP AND SAYS, 'I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU A FEW 50:48 QUESTIONS.' AND HE SAYS - HE SAYS TO HIM - HE SAYS TO HIM, 50:51 'LOOK, YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU PLEASE RAISE UP YOUR HAND AS 50:55 HIGH AS YOU CAN TO SHOW THE LACK OF MOTION FOR THAT INJURY?' 51:01 SO HE DOES, LIKE THAT. AND THEN HE GOES, 'AND JUST FOR 51:08 COMPARISON, WHAT WAS IT LIKE BEFORE THE INJURY?' 51:11 (RAISES ARM FULLY) AND, OF COURSE, HE LOST THE CASE. 51:17 YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, OUR SINS WILL FIND US OUT MANY TIMES. 51:24 SO THE BEST THING - THE BEST THING IS TO WHAT? 51:27 IS TO TELL THE TRUTH. TELL THE TRUTH. 51:30 AND WE NEED TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT OTHERS, TOO. 51:34 YOU KNOW, ANOTHER STORY, AS WE CLOSE UP HERE - YOU KNOW, AND 51:37 THIS IS FROM PROVERBS 26:28, "A LYING TONGUE HATES ITS VICTIMS 51:41 AND A FLATTERING MOUTH WORKS RUINS." 51:43 TELLING THE TRUTH - YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO, IF I WAS TO ASK YOU 51:48 'WHAT DOES A VIKING LOOK LIKE?' WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? 51:50 YOU WOULD HAVE A PICTURE IN YOUR MIND OF WHAT? 51:53 A VIKING. HORNS, RIGHT? 51:56 DO YOU KNOW THEY'VE NEVER FOUND ANY EXAMPLES FROM HISTORY WHERE 52:01 THEY HAD THESE HELMETS ON WITH HORNS. 52:03 DO YOU KNOW WHERE THEY CAME FROM? 52:05 CHRISTIANS WHO WERE TALKING ABOUT THOSE VIKINGS AND THEY 52:08 SAID, 'THESE ARE LIKE DEMONS THAT ARE COMING TO ATTACK US.' 52:11 AND THEY PUT HORNS ON THE PICTURES. 52:13 BUT IT STUCK - IT STUCK, RIGHT? SO SOMETIMES THE LIES WE TELL 52:19 OTHERS, THEY SOMETIMES STICK. HOW MANY OF YOU - HOW MANY OF 52:23 YOU DON'T WANT TO BE TELLING LIES ABOUT OTHERS? 52:25 HOW MANY OF YOU WANT, THROUGH THE POWER OF GOD, THE FIGHTS TO 52:29 STOP IN YOUR FAMILY? YOU MIGHT HAVE PINNED SOME HORNS 52:32 ON YOUR WIFE AND YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, 'BY GOD'S GRACE, I'M GOING 52:36 TO DO EVERYTHING TO TAKE THOSE HORNS OFF. 52:39 THAT'S NOT THE TRUTH. I DIDN'T TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT MY 52:40 WIFE.' YOU MIGHT HAVE SAID, 'YOU KNOW, MY HUSBAND IS A 52:43 COMPLETE...' - WHATEVER YOU CALLED HIM. 52:46 SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT RIGHT. THERE'S OTHER THINGS. 52:49 HOW MANY OF YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR HUSBAND LOOK GOOD? 52:52 YOU MIGHT SAY THAT ABOUT YOUR KIDS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. 52:54 MAYBE YOUR CHURCH IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A FIGHT. 52:56 I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. YOU KNOW WHAT? 52:58 THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO BE FIGHTING IN GOD'S CHURCH. 53:01 IT'S REALLY NOT. WE'VE GOT AN ENEMY TO FIGHT. 53:03 WE DON'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS FIGHTING EACH OTHER. 53:05 AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HELP US? GOD'S WORD. 53:09 IF WE LOOK AT HIS WORD - WE JUST SIMPLY TAKE IT AS IT PLAINLY 53:12 READS, YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? 53:15 GOD'S GOING TO COME IN. HE'S GOING TO CHANGE THINGS. 53:20 HOW MANY WANT THAT TO HAPPEN IN YOUR LIFE? 53:22 HOW MANY WANT THERE TO BE AN END TO FIGHTS? 53:24 HASN'T IT BEEN GREAT STUDYING PROVERBS? AND GUESS WHAT? 53:27 NEXT WEEK WE'RE GOING TO STUDY AGAIN. 53:29 WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON. SOME OF MY FAVORITE CHAPTERS, 53:32 PROVERBS 20, 21, AND 22 - YOU CAN'T MISS IT. 53:35 WE'LL SEE YOU THEN. >>AMAZING FACTS CHANGED LIVES. 53:48 >>WELL, MY CONVERSION STORY IS WHEN I WAS IN THE PHILIPPINES I 53:53 JUST GRADUATED AS A NURSE AND AFTERWARDS I DID NOT HAVE ANY 53:58 RELIGION AND ONE TIME I FOUND MYSELF INSIDE A SMALL CHURCH - 54:04 CATHOLIC CHURCH IN MANILLA - AND BEFORE A BIG CROSS AND I WAS 54:12 KNEELING BEFORE AND I COULD HEAR JESUS TELLING ME TO ENTER THE 54:17 CONVENT, SAVE MYSELF, AND ALSO MY FAMILY. 54:21 AND I SAID, 'LORD, I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW YOU ALL THE WAY.' AT 54:24 THAT POINT I SEEMED TO BE HAPPY, EXTERNALLY, BUT BECAUSE INSIDE 54:29 THE CONVENT WE DON'T READ THE BIBLE - WE DON'T STUDY ABOUT THE 54:34 WORD OF GOD, WE PRAY THE ROSARIES. WE ALSO, AT THE SAME 54:38 TIME, STUDY THE LIVES OF THE SAINTS AND ALSO OUR FOUNDERS 54:42 AND THE ENCYCLICALS OF THE POPE, AND THE VIRGIN MARY. 54:47 AND SO I DO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH AND I HAD THIS TORTURE OF 54:50 CONSCIENCE - THE GUILTY FEELINGS THAT CANNOT BE RESOLVED. 54:55 SO I WOULD CONFESS TO THE PRIEST IN THE CONFESSIONAL BOX SAYING, 54:58 'FATHER, FORGIVE ME. SINCE MY LAST CONFESSION WAS 55:03 LAST WEEK - SINCE THEN I HAVE COMMITTED THE FOLLOWING SIN 55:07 INCLUDING THE ROOT CAUSE, 'WHY AM I FALLING AND FALLING IN THAT 55:11 SAME SIN OVER AND OVER AGAIN?' AND STILL, FOR 21 LONG YEARS I 55:17 STRUGGLE AND I STRUGGLE AND I STRUGGLE. 55:21 I REALIZED THAT I WAS TOTALLY EMPTY. 55:25 I WAS TOTALLY HELPLESS AND HOPELESS AND SO DEPRESSED AND SO 55:30 DESPERATE THAT I WOULD LIKE ALREADY TO END MY LIFE. 55:34 I WAS WORKING FOR FIVE YEARS AS DEAN OF THE UNIVERSITY OF SAINT 55:39 AUGUSTINE COLLEGE OF NURSING IN ILOILO ILOILO CITY, 55:42 ONE OF THE ISLANDS OF THE PHILIPPINES. 55:45 AFTER FIVE YEARS I RECEIVED MY COMMISSION FROM MY PARENTS TO 55:50 HELP MY SISTER WHO IS BEING A BATTERED WOMAN. 55:55 THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I CAME OVER TO THE UNITED STATES. 56:00 IT IS BECAUSE MY SISTER NEEDS MY HELP. AS I WAS WORKING IN THE 56:06 HOSPITAL IN NEW YORK, MY BOSS, SERAPHIN, HE WAS SO GRACIOUS 56:09 ENOUGH TO GIVE ME AN INVITATION TO THE 'MILLENIUM OF PROPHECY'. 56:14 AS I WAS LISTENING TO PASTOR DOUG BATCHELOR'S PRESENTATION, 56:19 MY HEART REALLY WAS BEATING SO FAST AND MY MIND - I AM ABLE TO 56:24 GRASP THE TRUTH THAT THIS IS THE TRUTH THAT I'VE BEEN LONGING TO 56:30 HEAR ALL MY LIFE - THAT I HAVE BEEN SEEKING FOR SO LONG. 56:35 MY PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS - I CAN SEE JESUS AS MY 56:40 PERSONAL SAVIOR. HE IS NOT ONLY THE SAVIOR OF THE 56:44 WHOLE WORLD, BUT HE IS MY PERSONAL SAVIOR. 56:48 HE WAS THE ONE WHO DELIVERED ME MIGHTILY FROM THE DEPTHS OF SIN 56:54 - FROM THE MIREY CLAY. PASTOR DOUG BATCHELOR HAS BEEN 56:57 USED BY THE LORD IN MY CONVERSION. 57:01 THE AMAZING FACTS - I OWE TO THEM. 57:04 THE LORD REALLY BLESSED THIS MINISTRY AND I'M SO PROUD I WAS 57:09 ABLE TO ATTEND THIS 'MILLENIUM OF PROPHECY'. 57:13 MY LIFE HAS NEVER BEEN THE SAME. IT HAS GIVEN ME THAT PEACE - 57:18 THAT JOY THAT NEVER - I HAVE NEVER TASTED IN MY LIFE. 57:24 NOW I AM SET FREE TO BE ABLE TO WORK FOR HIM AND TO FOLLOW HIM. 57:41 >>IN SIX DAYS GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH. 57:44 FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, MAN HAS WORSHIPED GOD ON THE SEVENTH DAY 57:49 OF THE WEEK. NOW, EACH WEEK, MILLIONS OF 57:52 PEOPLE WORSHIP ON THE FIRST DAY. WHAT HAPPENED? 57:56 WHY DID GOD CREATE A DAY OF REST? 57:58 DOES IT REALLY MATTER WHAT DAY WE WORSHIP? 58:01 WHO WAS BEHIND THIS GREAT SHIFT. DISCOVER THE TRUTH BEHIND GOD'S 58:04 LAW AND HOW IT WAS CHANGED. VISIT 'SABBATHTRUTH.COM'. 58:12 (MUSIC) |
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