Stop-Smoking Clinic

Stop Smoking Clinic

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Participants: Dr. Arthur Weaver

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00:01 Many people are concerned that if they
00:03 stopped smoking, they'll substitute their
00:04 cigarettes with food and end up extremely fat.
00:08 I'm Dr. Arthur Weaver, a cancer surgeon
00:09 and today I'm going to give you the principles
00:11 on how to stop smoking without looking like
00:14 a beach ball with arms, don't miss this program.
00:49 Well, how's it going? Good. Great.
00:52 First let me answer a couple of questions
00:55 that somebody asked me. One of them said,
01:00 now I think you suggested I might go
01:02 on sugarless gum. Now, I read somewhere
01:08 that saccharin is carcinogenic,
01:11 if I get rid of cigarettes what's gonna
01:14 happen if I eat all this saccharin.
01:18 Well, I wouldn't worry too much about it,
01:24 because you won't be chewing gum
01:25 probably all the rest of your life,
01:28 but it's interesting how we look at some
01:31 things in completely different light than
01:34 we look at other things. For instance,
01:41 I remember several years ago,
01:44 it was thanksgiving and we had this scare
01:49 with the cranberries, does anybody remember that,
01:52 the cranberry scare at Thanksgiving.
01:56 Anyhow I always had some cranberries
01:59 with my Thanksgiving dinner.
02:00 So, I went to the store and I asked for
02:02 cranberries. I read the report,
02:05 you know what the report basically showed,
02:07 there had been one study done on rabbits
02:11 and if you translated it into humans basically
02:13 if you ate about 2 pounds of cranberries
02:16 a day for twenty years you might get this
02:18 cancer of your thyroid. Okay, you got it,
02:24 so I went to the store and I said do you have
02:25 any cranberries I figured I could wash them,
02:27 clean them up and have them onetime you
02:29 know, not two pounds, not twenty years just
02:33 for Thanksgiving dinner. And lady looked at me
02:35 as if I was crazy. She says don't you know
02:38 they cause cancer? I said I haven't ever.
02:44 I was a cancer surgeon then you see, I said,
02:46 I haven't seen anybody dying of cranberry
02:49 cancer yet. But I said you're still selling all
02:54 those cigarettes there. And I see people dying
02:58 of those all the time, isn't it interesting.
03:02 You know they have this idea that if anything
03:04 causes cancer, no matter what the doses is,
03:07 you know that saccharin bit probably a
03:09 thousand times a dose than anybody would get
03:11 from chewing gum, so they put that little
03:14 warning on there. But it's interesting that
03:17 they maybe getting, in some countries,
03:20 somebody handed me this tonight it's sort
03:22 of interesting, maybe you saw it in a paper.
03:25 Cigarette soon may carry a death message
03:27 in Sweden, did anybody see that?
03:30 Anyhow they're thinking of putting some little
03:32 stories on each pack of cigarettes,
03:34 how would you feel if you got your cigarettes
03:36 and it said something like this.
03:38 Stephen took his first puff in primary school,
03:40 at 20 he smoked a package a day.
03:43 Twenty years later he felt quite healthy but
03:45 one afternoon he suddenly collapsed
03:47 at work. He died before the day was over,
03:49 the reason, heart attack, he was forty years old.
03:53 How would like to have a different story on
03:55 every pack of cigarettes. That's what they're
03:57 thinking of doing in Sweden,
04:01 so I thought that was kind of interesting;
04:03 I appreciate someone sharing that with me.
04:08 But it's also interesting, you know everyone
04:10 is concerned against air pollution,
04:13 you heard that didn't you? What am I going
04:16 to do about the air in New York, in Michigan?
04:20 Well , I don't know much about New York
04:23 air but I do know something about
04:24 Michigan air. The one pack a day smoker,
04:32 you got this now, one pack a day smoker
04:34 gets six hundred times the particulate
04:40 pollution in his lungs that the nonsmoker
04:43 will get from air that meets Michigan clean
04:45 airs standards. The one pack a day smoker
04:52 get this now, gets sixty times,
04:55 60 times the particulate pollution that
05:00 the nonsmoker will get from air which
05:03 by law in the state of Michigan they have to
05:05 declare a pollution alert and close some factories.
05:11 The one pack a day smoker get sixty times
05:14 that amount, do you see how different it
05:16 is for certain industrial things then it is
05:20 for certain things that people have a habit
05:24 of smoking and drinking and chewing you know,
05:30 we're concerned about war, nobody wants to
05:32 go to war right, we lost fifty thousand men
05:37 as I remembered in Vietnam, bad war.
05:41 We lose that many in car accidents every
05:44 year half associated with alcohol,
05:47 no one seems to get too upset about it.
05:50 We lost a hundred and twenty five thousand
05:52 people this year from lung cancer alone.
05:56 Basically associated with smoking and no one gets,
06:00 you haven't heard them really getting uptight
06:02 about that in Congress and having major
06:03 debates over, have you? Maybe just kind of
06:07 accept this kind of mortality.
06:12 I had to get that off my chest I appreciate
06:14 you letting me, appreciate you letting me do that.
06:16 Well, we need to talk to a couple of people
06:18 tonight and my friend that wanders,
06:21 goes around picking people, isn't here,
06:25 he had another obligation. Is there
06:27 anybody that has something real interesting
06:29 that's happened to them while they were
06:30 stopping smoking they're willing to share with,
06:32 just come right up here. Anybody, come one.
06:35 Somebody's got something good,
06:38 alright then, then I'm gonna pick you out
06:41 at random. You just make your way,
06:43 make your way up here, I take the lady right
06:46 here, seated by the man in the stripe shirt,
06:50 walk your way up and I'll take the gentleman
06:54 over here in the sweater, right, you got it,
06:56 make your way up and we'll pick this man
07:01 from Michigan back here, says Michigan
07:03 he's proudly bragging about his Michigan.
07:09 And lets see we'll pick one more lady from
07:13 the front row right here. Alright, come on up.
07:23 Hi what's your name? Jill Munn, Jill Munn,
07:27 how do you spell about Munn? Munn, Munn,
07:30 and Jill, have you been here since the start
07:34 of the program? Yes, I have.
07:35 And how much were you used to smoking?
07:37 About a pack, about a pack a day.
07:39 tell me how the program has gone
07:41 for you now Jill, oh we're down here you
07:42 see on the forth day is it without cigarettes?
07:46 Fifth for me, yeah fifth day oh! That's good,
07:49 Sunday, and so tell me just kind of outline
07:52 it for me what do you, what do you think?
07:54 I think it's great, I went and saw my father
07:57 last night and I want him to come.
08:00 Your father smokes? Yes. You think maybe
08:01 your quitting will help him come? I don't know,
08:05 I hope so, I hope so, he worries me.
08:09 Now, did you have much trouble? No,
08:13 no I was ready, he was ready, I was ready.
08:15 Did you go through any symptoms?
08:17 Yeah, well yesterday it was great,
08:20 today it was hard, this is my fifth day yeah
08:23 I really wanted one today. All day along,
08:26 well no, but I mean it was stronger than
08:30 the day before and I don't know why,
08:32 do you remember my mountain story?
08:34 Yeah, there's little ups and downs but you
08:37 know what, like I told you the first day
08:39 those urges will get lower and lower
08:42 amplitude and further and further apart.
08:44 But if you ever been on a beach,
08:46 you ever once in a while you know they
08:47 have all these little ones and then here comes
08:48 the big one, yeah, forgot about that.
08:51 Yeah, you had the big one, yeah,
08:53 but you feel good about it? Well I fell good
08:56 that I didn't smoke, yeah and you don't
08:58 think you're going to go back.
08:59 No, I know I'm not going to go back.
09:02 What do you think about that,
09:03 isn't that great? Thank you, keep doing,
09:06 I love this program, good thank you.
09:10 Alright, lets see, somebody I call this
09:16 fellow back about here too no, no, no you got,
09:19 you got yeah. Alright, come, come,
09:21 come right on up here, what's your name?
09:24 Dan, Dan you're not a fan from
09:26 University Michigan? No, no, what do you
09:29 think of it? No. How much you used to
09:31 smoke Dan? Was two packs,
09:32 two packs a day and you've been here
09:34 since the start of the problem yeah since
09:36 last Thursday. You got out here in spite
09:37 of the weather tonight. Well I couldn't miss it,
09:39 couldn't miss it. I'm down right proud of you;
09:40 you got up a real sweat I mean.
09:44 Well, like shrimp, nervous still too, little jittery,
09:48 yeah. But how did the program go for you?
09:50 A lot better then what I did, you know
09:53 when I tried on my own, you've tried on your
09:55 own but it didn't work too well, hundreds
09:56 of times you know. But you think the program
09:57 has worked pretty good? Oh yeah definitely,
09:59 in fact I just gave the book and all the
10:01 information to my sister she wants to quit,
10:03 she wants to quit too. Did you have some real
10:08 bad days? Yesterday was the worst,
10:09 the fourth day and today you felt a little better.
10:12 Yeah, I think different was this morning,
10:13 I woke up with a bloody nose, I couldn't
10:17 understand that one. Well, a lot of times people
10:19 in this country get bloody nose,
10:22 in this you know where is, we have the heat,
10:24 a lot of people get bloody nose from dry air
10:27 that's the commonest cause.
10:28 We see a lot of bloody nose in nonsmokers
10:30 and smokers. This is first time I had. Yeah,
10:33 I doubt that it had anything to do with your
10:35 smoking, I think it's just what you call a
10:38 coincidence. Could be. But you feel good about
10:41 it? Definitely and you think this time you're
10:43 gonna stay off and I'm gonna give it my
10:45 best shot, lets put it that way.
10:47 What do you think folks, aren't you proud of him?
11:00 I always appreciate those people that sit
11:02 on the front row, I don't know if any of you
11:06 folks done much public speaking but you always
11:09 have to have some feedback you know to
11:11 see whether you, whether your getting
11:13 through or not and I watched you every
11:17 night and you've acted like you were listening,
11:19 and I appreciated that. I was.
11:23 How much were you used to smoking before
11:24 you came here? Pack and a half or two packs
11:27 per day. And tell us a little bit about
11:31 your trials and tribulations? Well,
11:33 I was so carried away from sitting in the front
11:36 row because it felt like you were talking to me.
11:39 I was you know, I was watching there,
11:41 yeah but I mean none of these other people
11:43 were here, you were talking to me.
11:45 You know sitting there, so I got all carried away
11:47 and I thought I'm not gonna wait until Monday,
11:49 I'm gonna Friday night so I did it Friday night.
11:52 So, you've been off every since and isn't that good?
11:54 No, no, well alright, moment of truth,
12:01 I got real nervous Monday night before I came
12:03 here, so I did a real dumb thing and I had
12:07 a couple puffs off of a cigarette and you're right
12:09 I felt worse I think after doing that then again
12:14 I felt bad again after going through Saturday,
12:16 which was nightmarish and then you know
12:19 little better on Sunday but not much and
12:22 then Monday night I was starting to feel good
12:24 and I blew it, I took that and I felt worse.
12:27 But you've been doing alright since then.
12:29 Since I came here on Monday night I've tried
12:31 like everybody else do this myself
12:34 and never had success like I've had this time
12:38 and I don't know why but I think you made,
12:40 helped me make up my mind,
12:43 that I'm not gonna do this anymore.
12:45 I'm proud of you, thank you, don't you think
12:47 she shares a good idea?
12:56 That's the clue right there, did you get it?
12:59 Made up my mind, and the facts are that I can
13:04 help facilitate this, but if you stop smoking
13:09 you deserve the credit right, and don't try
13:13 to share it too much, you did it for yourself
13:15 and I'm proud, hi there, hi, what's your name?
13:17 Ed Chaplin, Ed Chaplin, Ed have you been here
13:21 since the start of the program?
13:22 Since day one, since day one.
13:23 Alright and I'm getting my pin tonight. Oh!
13:34 Now I've heard of slow earners Ed but,
13:39 let's kind of tell me you were just waiting
13:42 to see how long you could hold out before
13:45 you really got on board or what happened?
13:47 I just wanted to see if you're telling the truth
13:49 that one or two will hurt me everyday.
13:52 Then what happened, then it hurts like,
13:56 so I nothing today and it was better?
13:58 Much better, my throat doesn't hurt.
14:01 But where were you getting these one or two.
14:03 Guys at work you know and the one guy today says,
14:06 I'm not give you any today.
14:08 He says you want a cigarette,
14:09 go and buy them. So, you feeling pretty
14:17 good today, what are you gonna,
14:20 what are you gonna do about tomorrow?
14:22 Do much better because my kids won't
14:24 let me smoke anymore and they won't let me
14:25 go to store and buy them you know so.
14:28 Yeah, but now we've got to get away
14:30 from the kids and get it down with Ed, yeah.
14:33 Don't you think that's where we're really happy?
14:34 Yeah. That's sure, I think you're worth quitting
14:38 smoking for. I think so, don't you think so?
14:43 I'm proud of you, thank you. I appreciate you
14:45 coming, just a moment, thank you. Alright,
14:53 well we've gone ahead and found maybe
14:56 a few more of those buttons to give out
14:57 in just a minute but lets see where's my
14:59 helpers back here, what are they have?
15:01 They have the envelopes, is there anybody
15:04 that didn't get one of these little envelopes,
15:10 I thought I had everything here,
15:12 somewhere I hid behind here, well anyhow the
15:16 donation envelopes anyone who wasn't here
15:17 last night and didn't get a envelop,
15:21 just raise your hand, here's one over here.
15:25 As I explain to you we run by contributions,
15:30 but if you give us what your cigarettes cost
15:33 you for a week and that's a month and
15:36 you've already got a weekend right?
15:38 Yeah, so that seems fair enough from that,
15:41 we'll keep our programs running and all over
15:46 those people that you see helping me
15:48 and myself we donate our services.
15:53 So, it all goes back into the program and
15:55 we'll talk to you tonight about a lot of
15:56 other programs that we have, that
15:57 you might be interested in getting into.
16:02 Okay, is there anybody else needs one of those,
16:07 you can turn them into nights,
16:08 you can turn them in Monday,
16:10 just leave them with one of the helpers
16:11 that you've seen out there everyday
16:14 and if you need a receipt you will get it
16:16 or your check can serve as a receipt and
16:18 it is tax deductible. Alright, all of those who
16:23 are like Ed, wanna get a pin because today
16:27 they got off for the first time.
16:28 Would you stand. Oh! Yes, give her hand thank you,
16:36 here's another oh yes, isn't that good
16:49 and if you didn't smoke today raise both hands.
16:52 Look at that, look at that, look at that,
16:56 oh I wish we had those who got snowed out
16:59 of away but isn't that good? I am just so
17:02 proud of you. You don't know what a,
17:07 what a pleasure it is to see you succeeding
17:10 of something that's been on your back and
17:12 troubled you and bugged you for so long.
17:15 One lady said to me I've smoke for 50 years,
17:17 I thought I had never gonna get off and now
17:21 I'm free, isn't that good? I mean that's just like
17:23 letting a hostage lose. Letting a hostage lose.
17:33 Well, lets do a little talking here.
17:40 I know that one of the concerns that many
17:44 people have is that if I stop smoking,
17:48 I'm gonna get fat, does that concern anybody?
17:53 I have seen people even go back to the smoking,
17:57 because they didn't wanna gain the weight,
18:09 that's a bad trade off from a health
18:12 point of view. Listen carefully,
18:16 you carry the same risk to yourself
18:19 by smoking one pack of cigarettes a day increased
18:23 health risk, you'd have to gain a minimum
18:26 of 80 pounds once you quit smoking.
18:30 So, don't ever say to yourself,
18:33 I'm gonna die of obesity I might just well
18:36 go back to smoking. Now, I admit you may not
18:38 want to look like a blimp and all of that.
18:42 But don't use the excuse that this is as
18:44 dangerous as my smoking because
18:48 every statistic tells us that that's not so, okay.
18:53 Now, why do people have a tendency to gain
18:57 weight once they stop smoking?
19:01 Well there's several reasons. You're right,
19:05 hand to mouth he says, well you're used to
19:09 putting a cigarette in your mouth right,
19:12 and getting some pleasure from it.
19:15 You don't have cigarettes anymore so
19:17 what's the next best substitute? Food,
19:21 food, not only that but the food tastes better
19:26 than it ever tasted, because the sense
19:30 of taste along with the sense of smell and several
19:34 other sensations are now returning to the smoker.
19:37 I had one participant say to me one night you
19:42 wouldn't believe it's about this night,
19:44 fourth night something like it.
19:45 He said you wouldn't believe I had asparagus
19:47 last night I thought that was just a green
19:49 vegetable you ate because it was green but
19:51 he said that had the most, most exotic,
19:55 esoteric flavors I'd forgotten that asparagus
19:58 tasted like anything at all, isn't that interesting.
20:02 And now you see, you're used to putting
20:04 something in your mouth, you're used to
20:05 getting pleasure from it and here you have
20:07 all this delicious food. You have a second
20:10 honeymoon with food. I mean really good stuff,
20:17 alright. There is another reason that people
20:20 tend to gain weight when they stop smoking.
20:23 Part of it is that their basal metabolic rate
20:27 tends to slow down. So, that while you're
20:31 sitting around you're actually losing,
20:34 using less calories so that it takes a while
20:39 for that to get back and readjust itself.
20:44 In addition to that it hasn't been well
20:47 studied but I believe it's true, I believe one
20:50 of the big reasons people have a tendency
20:52 to gain weight once they stopped smoking,
20:54 is that their heart is burning many less calories.
20:59 In general when a person stops smoking his
21:01 blood pressure drops about 10 points.
21:05 In addition his heart rate drops about 10
21:08 beats a minute. Now when you consider that
21:10 your heart is a big muscle and it's pumping
21:13 hundreds of gallons of blood everyday
21:17 and now it's slowed down and its smiling dub,
21:20 dub, dub, dub instead of working so hard, it's
21:25 burning less calories, you see what I'm saying.
21:29 And therefore there is a tendency to gain
21:34 a little weight. Now, it is true that everybody
21:37 doesn't gain weight, I've seen people even
21:39 lose weight. And the average person gains
21:42 somewhere around 5 to 7 pounds once they
21:46 stop smoking. But let me tell you something,
21:50 I wanted to, something that maybe you wouldn't
21:53 like to hear, but I believe telling the truth,
21:57 and then you'll know the truth and the truth
22:00 will keep you from making bad mistakes.
22:04 What I've discovered is that the tendency
22:06 to gain weight lasts at the most about six months.
22:13 After six months people have a tendency to
22:16 plateau and then if they wanna work at it they
22:20 can lose that weight relatively easily.
22:24 I suggest that while you're stopping smoking
22:27 that should be your emphases, okay.
22:31 Take care of the weight if you have to a
22:34 little bit later, okay. But try to avoid putting
22:41 it all on, how can you do that?
22:43 Well, don't get a bunch of chocolate covered
22:47 nuts to start it, because give those to me,
22:54 because if you keep sticking those things
22:55 in your mouth or some soft candies you know
22:58 you can just load up tremendously.
23:01 If you have to have something in your mouth
23:04 try some sugarless gum, toothpicks,
23:07 sugarless candies or something like that,
23:09 or some lower caloric things such as carrot
23:12 sticks and celery sticks and the other stuff
23:13 you've heard about for diet.
23:16 Now I wanted you to understand why the
23:18 problem and now I'm gonna tell you what
23:20 you can do about the problem if you don't
23:23 want to gain weight, alright.
23:26 Now, listen carefully, first of all let me
23:28 tell you why? Did you know that people
23:32 that try to lose weight by diet, there is more
23:37 recidivism, do you understand that word,
23:39 going back to the same place that you were
23:44 than there is with any other habit including
23:47 smoking, alcoholism and drugs.
23:51 People that diet to lose weight.
23:54 Ninety percent of them will gain that
23:56 weight back again and those people who
24:00 go on repeated diets get fatter and fatter
24:05 and fatter, and you'd say why is that?
24:09 Now let me explain to you what happens and
24:12 then you can avoid making this mistake.
24:17 So, I decided I'm going on a diet,
24:21 I cut my calories way down to where I'm
24:27 starting you know and there's a thousand diet
24:29 books out there. I don't suppose that any
24:31 publisher made as much money as those
24:33 people that publish diet books,
24:35 doctor so and so diet, Jane Fonda's diet,
24:38 Uncle Raymond's diet whoever you know
24:41 everybody's got a diet book and most of them
24:46 the principle is cut calories. If you cut
24:50 calories you lose weight? Yes, the answer is yes.
24:55 So let's assume that now I decide I want
24:57 to lose ten pounds, alright,
25:01 so I go on this diet, slim fast, optifast, who's fast,
25:06 medifast, I don't know. Whatever it is I'm
25:10 getting less calories and I'm burning,
25:12 so I'm losing weight, and the first day
25:14 I step on the scale and oh look at that,
25:18 I lose about four pounds, what did I largely lose?
25:23 Water, water you've got it, so I lose water,
25:29 that's because I'm eating less salt and I'm
25:32 also burning up the glycogen and the
25:36 glycogen is tied up with water and the glycogen
25:40 is my immediate energy source and as I burn
25:42 up the glycogen in my muscles,
25:44 the glycogen in my liver, I'm losing a lot of water
25:49 and I'm urinating it right down the path
25:51 and there is no better way to lose weight
25:54 and I lose about four pounds of water. But
26:00 I persist, I stick with my diet and much more
26:05 slowly now I notice it's coming down a little bit,
26:13 and I keep on coming down and I lose
26:17 six pounds, some of that is fat that's what
26:21 I wanted to get rid of and I lose three pound of fat.
26:30 But at the same time, I'm also losing lean
26:33 body mass, mostly muscle. So, I lose,
26:41 we'll say here muscle, but did we lose some other
26:44 things as well. And I lose three pounds of that
26:51 and voila! Beautiful, I've lost ten pounds.
26:56 I can go back to eating like I ate before.
27:02 Only now I have a real problem,
27:05 when I went on this diet my brain said watch out,
27:11 you're starving, slow down the basal metabolic rate.
27:15 We've got to conserve resources,
27:19 so my basal metabolic rate drops,
27:22 so when I'm sitting around I'm burning off less
27:26 calories. In addition to this I have less muscle
27:32 to burn off energy, so I've got my dropped
27:36 basal metabolic rate, I have less muscle
27:39 and I go back to eating, tastes good again
27:42 after being off for a while but you know what
27:45 I have to eat even less than I did before
27:47 and I go around hungry all the time and pretty
27:50 soon I don't like going around hungry all the
27:52 time and I start to put on weight.
27:58 And I put it on you see and my basal metabolic
28:01 rate is low and I get fat again without eating
28:05 too much and then I go on another diet,
28:08 and I lose more muscle and my basal
28:11 metabolic rate is down and every time I go,
28:14 the next time I have to eat less and less until
28:17 some people can actually stay stable or
28:22 lose weight on 900 to a 1000 calories a day
28:26 which is basically a starvation diet.
28:30 No wonder they go back and get fat,
28:35 that's the problem, so now that I have lost my
28:42 smoking habits and I want to look well,
28:47 what can I do? Well, there is a way and here
28:58 is the clue, you will never guess. Exercise
29:14 that is the principle of weight control,
29:24 the main principle of weight control,
29:28 because as I exercise what do I burn off?
29:32 I burn off calories not only that but I kick up
29:37 my basal metabolic rate, not only that
29:42 I build some muscle now that presents
29:47 some what of a problem because I may step
29:50 on the scale and notice that I haven't lost much
29:55 weight but my belt seems to be getting tighter,
30:00 my dress size is dropping because muscle
30:06 is heavier than fat, you understand what
30:09 I'm saying, so it's possible for a person to
30:12 be nice and fit and trim, but not weigh
30:18 like a feather because they're solidly and
30:21 firmly built, they got rid of the flab do you
30:25 know what I'm saying? Some of these
30:26 football players you know they weight 300 pounds
30:29 most of that may well be muscle you see
30:33 and they can be perfectly fit, they're not,
30:36 many of them are not very fat.
30:38 So, this is the principle here. Number one,
30:42 I lose calories and calories represent fat or
30:51 whatever else I lose calories,
30:53 I increase my basal metabolic rates,
30:57 so that probably while I'm sitting at
31:01 my desk I will actually burn off more calories
31:05 from my increased basal metabolic rate during
31:12 the day then I actually burned off in my exercise
31:16 during the morning, so the benefits persist
31:19 for 8 to 24 hours even after my exercise
31:24 is done. So, let me recommend to you
31:31 getting yourself on a good exercise program.
31:37 There is nothing that I would rather see
31:39 you do than to get on an exercise program
31:42 once this program is through.
31:46 Exercise is a great tranquilizer and if you're
31:51 a little nervous what not about being off
31:54 your cigarettes and you get out and have
31:56 a good period of exercise everyday,
31:59 its gonna put those beta endorphins out
32:01 of your brain and then you're gonna feel
32:03 comfortable with yourself,
32:05 you're gonna feel good but in addition
32:06 to you will burning off with the few extra
32:09 calories that you sticking in your mouth
32:10 because food tastes so good, alright.
32:16 Exercise, how important that is? Now,
32:23 I don't believe anybody should get on a diet
32:27 or I should put here that you get a little
32:29 bit of increased muscle, so don't ever throw
32:33 your scale away, throw your scale away
32:37 and take yourself out of tape measure yourself
32:41 around here and around here and maybe around
32:45 your thighs, but forget what the scale says
32:48 because if you're on a good exercise program
32:51 you will be trimming up, you will be looking good.
32:54 Everyone will say you're losing weight and you
32:57 say I really lost much weight,
33:01 but who cares you wanna look good and
33:04 you wanna feel good isn't that it.
33:07 And exercise will provide that for you, alright.
33:12 Now, I don't recommend that anybody goes
33:21 on a diet that they can't live on for the rest
33:24 of your life. I would rather see people
33:31 if they need to lose weight get on a exercise
33:32 program, maybe make some dietary changes
33:38 but lose half pound a month. Did you ever stop
33:43 to think, if you did that for a year how much
33:44 you lose during the year? Six pounds,
33:47 you did that for three years, eighteen pounds.
33:51 How did you put it on in general?
33:54 You know we put these twenty pounds on over
33:56 a forty, thirty year period and we wanna
33:58 lose it in thirty days, you think that makes
34:00 sense from a physiological point of view?
34:04 No, I would like to see you lose it slowly,
34:08 it's much more likely to stay off.
34:11 Now, you know as well as I know that you
34:14 can't stay miserable for a prolonged period of time,
34:21 that's why I tell people as I, to my patients
34:25 as I deal with them about their smoking habit.
34:27 They say doc I'm only having one or two
34:30 cigarettes and I tell them, I know a lady and
34:34 she's only a little bit pregnant.
34:38 Because you see I know that no one can stay
34:43 on one or two cigarettes that had an
34:44 established smoking habit for a long period of
34:46 time oh yes you know some people like that
34:50 and everybody thinks they can simulate them,
34:53 but those people never were confirmed smokers,
34:56 they're always piddly diddling with the habit,
34:59 one or two cigarettes a day. No one ever went
35:01 from three packs a day to three cigarettes
35:03 a day and stayed there, it hasn't happen yet.
35:07 I haven't seen it and I've been looking for it.
35:11 Some people who made it work for a month
35:12 or two they were miserable the whole
35:14 month for two and then they went right
35:16 back to smoking what they were doing before.
35:18 You can't be a part time smoker and you
35:21 can't be a part time eater, you can't go around
35:24 hungry for long. Sooner or later
35:27 you're gonna say nuts to it and go back
35:31 to eat like you ate, eating like you ate before.
35:36 Do you believe that? Yeah you won't be
35:38 miserable that's what's the problem with the diet,
35:42 standard diet, so what should you do.
35:46 Well you should eat food that will fill you up
35:51 and when you leave the table you shouldn't go
35:54 away hungry. Now how do you do that?
35:59 Well, I'll tell you how you do it;
36:00 you eat food that will fill you up.
36:04 Now, the problem with the American diet
36:09 is that very few of us eat food anymore
36:12 like the good Lord put it here. You go to your
36:19 store and you look and 90 percent of the stuff
36:23 on the shelves is not really food,
36:25 its manufactured chemistry.
36:30 You just read the package and half the time
36:34 you can't understand it, have you ever tried
36:36 reading those, those ingredients,
36:39 I mean they made creamers that never
36:41 saw a cow. Yeah, you know I mean,
36:46 and they got stabilizers and balancers and
36:50 things to make it stay on the shelf for
36:51 six months without going rancid,
36:54 and it just isn't food, but the problem
37:00 is that as Americans by large we have develop
37:04 taste for junk food. We have developed taste
37:12 for junk food, what is junk food?
37:15 Well junk food basically is refined food and
37:20 the two main ingredients that the manufactures
37:23 like to put in food to make it taste
37:26 good is sugar, salt too. But I'm talking about
37:34 calories now and fat. You just stop to think
37:41 about all those things that you think real good
37:44 about and tell me if they not loaded with
37:45 sugar and fat have you heard of ice-cream,
37:48 brownies, fudge bars, dough bars,
37:55 chocolate covered nuts you name it and most
38:01 of these things that we really kind of celebrate
38:04 over are loaded with sugar and fats,
38:08 and we have developed tastes for those foods.
38:14 Now, when I eat all these high sugared,
38:18 lets say we're talking about breakfast cereals
38:20 do you know there are some cereals out
38:21 there in the market that actually have more
38:23 sugar than grain in them. And do you know
38:27 that the food manufacturing industry
38:30 is out to fool you and you know how they
38:33 try to do it with sugars? Yes, you're exactly right.
38:39 Most people know that the ingredients
38:42 have to be on the package according the
38:46 largest first and then on down and they don't
38:49 wanna put sugar first, so what do they do?
38:54 We have corn syrup solids, dextrose, glucose,
39:01 fructose, maltose, maybe even some sucrose
39:07 and when you get down you can have
39:09 75 percent sugar and have something else
39:12 up front. They want you to think it's good
39:19 and they wanna also fool you, I'm sorry,
39:23 excuse me, the food industry is doing it,
39:25 but it is doing it. How much bulk is there
39:29 in sugar, fiber? None, how much minerals?
39:35 None, how much vitamins? None,
39:39 and yet many pf us get a great deal of our
39:41 energy from refined sugar and you can put
39:47 that food with that sugar in your stomach
39:50 and walk away hungry because there's
39:53 basically no space filled. Do you understand
39:56 what I'm saying? You got a ton of calories
40:00 but you're still hungry, same way with fats.
40:08 We eat a lot of fat, fats have nearly,
40:10 well they have more then twice as many calories
40:14 per weight as sugar, did you know that?
40:16 Carbohydrate is four calories per gram and
40:18 fats are nine calories per gram and we eat all
40:25 kinds of refined fats. Now,
40:29 what I'm suggesting to you, I'm suggesting
40:31 that you think about what you are eating
40:33 and try to get back to eating largely food
40:37 like it comes from the earth or the tree
40:42 or the plant, because if you do that
40:46 and you don't load it down with sugar
40:47 in fact you can eat and eat and eat and
40:52 eat and not get fat and you can walk away
40:57 from the table feeling quite comfortable.
41:03 Let's just take bread, have you heard of
41:09 Wonder bread. You know why they call it
41:13 Wonder bread, cause you squeeze it you
41:16 wonder where it went, I mean it practically
41:20 fills nothing but every slice is probably good,
41:25 I got to be careful because I saw my
41:26 daughter walk in, she's a dietitian but probably
41:28 around 70 calories you see then we put
41:30 a 100 calories of butter on it and we got
41:33 a 170 calories and you can eat 3 or 4
41:35 slices of that right, and what comes out?
41:39 Man, it comes out here because you see
41:41 you don't very full. Now, I guarantee you
41:46 if you start with a good solid piece of whole
41:50 grain bread you won't eat three or four slices
41:52 you know that and that one slice of bread
41:55 will not have any more calories than that
41:57 Wonder bread. So, I eat good, my wife,
42:04 we got for Christmas the kids give her
42:06 one of those bread makers you know you just
42:09 dump the stuff in and hey she's got it so,
42:12 she's got it down to about 100 percent whole
42:14 wheat, now and I add one of those slices
42:17 for along with my lentil soup for supper
42:19 tonight and you know what? That fills you up,
42:24 that stuff is heavy. Now when you chew it,
42:27 it's delicious, it's nutty, it's flavor full,
42:31 or you say well I don't like it, aha!
42:38 Listen to me now because I'm going
42:40 to give you a principle that if you take to heart,
42:46 it will solve your eating problem,
42:50 are you ready? I'm only going to share
42:53 it with you now, you won't tell anybody
42:55 else right? Yeah, listen to it we don't eat
43:00 what we like, we like what we eat.
43:07 Now I am going to drive by that one again.
43:10 Now, you don't eat what we like as much
43:11 as we like what we eat, now you say me
43:14 explain that to me. Why do the Chinese
43:16 like Chinese food? Because they eat it you
43:23 got it, why do the Mexicans like
43:25 Mexican food, because they eat it,
43:30 why do the Americans likes junk food,
43:35 because you eat it, you've got,
43:38 you've got the point, and if you keep eating
43:42 it you like it whether it's good for you
43:44 or bad for you. Are you listening?
43:49 This is a very important principle for diet change,
43:56 okay I have a son-in-law who thinks mashed
44:03 potatoes are only good if they come out
44:05 one of these boxes, I mean he might well
44:08 eat cardboard from my point of view.
44:11 But if you take and cook up a good potato
44:12 and smashed it you know he thinks man,
44:17 that's a funny tasting potato you know why?
44:20 Because his mother fed him potatoes out
44:22 of cardboard boxes, and if you eat potatoes
44:26 out of cardboard boxes, potatoes out of
44:28 cardboard boxes taste better than real potatoes.
44:33 But if you quit eating potatoes out of the
44:34 cardboard boxes and you start eating real
44:36 potatoes, pretty soon the real potatoes
44:39 are going to taste better than the potatoes
44:40 out of the cardboard boxes.
44:44 If you're a white bread eater and you will
44:45 put that stuff aside and quit eating it for
44:47 a month or two I guarantee you will never
44:50 go back to cotton balls again. Serious,
44:55 it won't happen I approve this to myself.
45:00 I told you the other night we were,
45:02 I was a mission surgeon in Pakistan and what
45:05 I didn't share with you was I'm also a
45:07 vegetarian and when we got to Pakistan
45:12 and I looked at the cows, I was glad I was
45:14 a vegetarian but I found out in a summer
45:19 there was only two vegetables that were
45:20 economically purchased, eggplant and okra
45:27 and those were the only two vegetables that
45:29 I didn't like. Fact is these were nose holding
45:38 kind of vegetables, so I told my wife honey
45:43 I think we're gonna learn to like eggplant and okra,
45:47 and she brought it home, and she tried to fix it,
45:50 and it tasted terrible and I gagged and
45:54 I held my nose and I eat it and I kept
45:56 eating it along with a few other expensive
45:59 things like tomatoes or what not you could
46:01 buy there, but eggplant and okra,
46:04 it was a non food you know.
46:09 There was another problem I had when I got
46:10 to Pakistan, I didn't like Indian food curry,
46:15 that was bad smelling and bad looking.
46:20 And people kept inviting us over to their
46:22 house you know here is the new American doctor
46:24 come out over we will make you a good
46:26 Indian dinner. So, you go over there and
46:28 they gave you this Indian food and they say
46:30 how is it? You say good, well let me give you
46:32 some more. You lie just a little bit,
46:36 because you don't wanna hurt their feelings
46:38 and you keep eating it. And after a year or
46:41 so it begins to taste better and even the
46:45 eggplant and okra isn't bad anymore.
46:49 And I can tell you now if I go down Greek town
46:52 and I look for a meal, I look on whether if
46:55 they got any eggplant or okra,
46:57 because now it's delicious.
46:59 Now believe me if you can make eggplant
47:02 or okra delicious by eating it,
47:04 I'm sure you can make that principle apply
47:06 to anything else. And if I go to one of the
47:08 major cities for a medical meeting you know
47:11 I can smell an Indian restaurant and my nose
47:13 starts to twitch, I wanna go in there
47:17 and get some curry and some chapattis,
47:21 I thought those were tasteless things when
47:22 I first tried them but you know they're really
47:24 good if you, if you what? If you eat them,
47:31 not like them, if you eat them you will like them,
47:36 okay. So, you're used to eating junk food,
47:41 now is a good time to start thinking
47:45 about a good whole grain breakfast
47:46 I talked to you about the other,
47:47 other program you remember that yeah
47:50 oatmeal, red river cereal, whole grain rolls
47:56 and well I make the one the other day with
47:58 cracked wheat and oats mixed them up,
48:00 put a few raisins and nuts, oh it was delicious
48:04 and then eat it with a grape fruit or an
48:06 orange you know that you will get less calories
48:08 that way than you are drinking the orange
48:09 juice and drinking the grape juice.
48:13 You see if we get back to eating the food
48:15 again like it comes, you can eat and eat
48:18 and eat and enjoy it and enjoy it and enjoy it
48:21 and everything will taste pretty good.
48:24 Let's talk about this fat here do you like corn
48:29 on the cob? Yeah, yeah I don't know how
48:33 many calories, how many calories are in
48:36 the corn on the cob without the fat on it,
48:37 where's my sister? 100 maybe 70 anybody
48:41 know how many calories corn on the cob sis?
48:47 Okay, I will take her because she's in this
48:49 business all the time so somewhere in that
48:52 neighborhood, alright, but you know what
48:56 we do with a corn on the cob,
48:58 we take it and we squeeze the fat out
49:00 of it you know what we make corn oil,
49:06 have you heard of that? Yeah,
49:08 good goes in your mayonnaise,
49:09 goes into this that and the other thing,
49:12 how many years of corn you think you could
49:13 eat? 3, 4, 1, 2 whatever not too many right.
49:19 You'd be, you'd be full won't you? Okay,
49:23 but you know we do each table spoon of corn oil,
49:28 one table spoon corn oil is all the fat from
49:33 14 years of corn. So, you take a couple of
49:41 tablespoons of corn oil you put it on your
49:43 salad in the way of dressing or whatever
49:47 and you see what you've done,
49:48 you've had all the fat from 28 years of corn.
49:52 Do you see why it's easy to get fat when
49:54 we're eating refined products?
49:58 Let's take a loot at something else just
50:00 for the fun of it, so you will see the point
50:02 that I making here. Time goes slipping away
50:09 when you're having fun don't you?
50:11 Okay let's take a crisp succulent Michigan apple.
50:23 You like it, I didn't know this must be somewhere
50:27 around 80 or 100 calories okay 80 calories.
50:30 How many of those could you eat for dessert?
50:34 One, somebody says two, pans how big it is,
50:39 you'd be full, right? But let's make apple
50:43 juice out of it right. Now we squeeze all
50:53 the juice out and we can drink down two,
50:57 or three or four apples just leaving the fiber.
51:03 Well, I know there is nothing the matter
51:04 with apple juice don't misunderstand me,
51:06 but you notice what I'm talking about here.
51:08 When we start to get away from the food
51:10 like it comes, it's easy to pour on the calories.
51:16 Well, let's make apple sauce now what
51:17 do we add to it, yeah we add a little sugar
51:22 and to get the same fullness you see we
51:25 probably gonna get a 150 calories over here
51:28 that we would had got from one apple and
51:33 all we've done is added sugar to it.
51:35 No nutrition, just calories, okay.
51:43 Let's have apple pie and now to get the same
51:52 fullness that I would have had from my one apple,
51:57 I will have one piece of apple pie which
51:59 is probably good for about 350 calories.
52:03 And I won't be any fuller when I get done
52:06 than I was up here with my apple.
52:09 But somebody wants to go broke,
52:11 he wants to go for the apple pie a la mode.
52:19 Now you see we're good for 500 plus
52:22 to 600 calories and I'll be no fuller than
52:26 if I had my apple does that mean you
52:28 can have apple pie a la mode for your birthday?
52:31 No, but it's what you have everyday for lunch
52:34 that makes a difference how your tummy looks
52:37 when you go out to lunch. Are you getting
52:39 the point that I'm making here.
52:41 So, if we go back to the food we start eating
52:44 food if we buy our groceries in Joe's Produce
52:51 instead of getting that stuff in those little
52:53 boxes and we cook that stuff up and eat it,
52:57 we can be full, comfortable and trim.
53:05 So, if we add a few dietary changes just start
53:08 to think when you're planning dinner or
53:11 something like that. What am I going to have
53:13 tonight I think I will make food and he says
53:16 that sounds kind of boring, that's sounds
53:18 like an old farmer meal or something like that.
53:22 You know what, eat it and you know what
53:28 you'll like it, and you keep eating it
53:31 and it'll keep tasting better and
53:35 better and better. I'll be honest I used to
53:38 like donuts and sugar rolls you know those things.
53:44 Now, I should tell you that I work around
53:46 hospitals and the detail men, the drug salesmen
53:49 and the surgical salesmen you know what
53:52 they're always doing? They're always dumping
53:54 the table full of sugar donuts, jelly rolls,
54:01 all of that stuff. I must tell you the truth
54:03 that it doesn't even tempt me anymore basically
54:07 because I quit eating it. I don't feel
54:12 persecuted all, I feel sorry for people that seem
54:14 to like icky, sweet, greasy stuff.
54:19 Because I've trained my head,
54:22 now if I'm starving, I'd go and get one now.


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