Participants: Dr. Arthur Weaver
Series Code: SSC
Program Code: SSC000004
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00:01 If you been with us since the start of this program,
00:03 I'm sure you are beginning to wonder how much 00:04 longer is this withdrawal process going to last? 00:07 At the most you have one more difficult 00:09 day of physical symptoms. 00:11 Now we are going to tackle, 00:12 the long term prospects for success. 00:15 How to keep on keeping off? 00:16 Don't miss this program. 00:49 Well we must have somebody here 00:53 that wants to talk to me tonight. Where are they? 00:58 Where are my selectees, here comes one walking 01:03 right down here, oh good! 01:05 Again selected at random come on up sir. 01:12 Hi, how are you doing? What's your name? Pat. 01:15 Pat, how much sure you used to smoking 01:18 Pat before you came to this program? 01:20 Less than a pack a day. Less than a pack a day, 01:23 what made you decide that was 01:24 a good thing to get rid off? 01:26 My wife kind a convince me. Your wife convinced you? 01:31 Are you quitting smoking for wife or for yourself? 01:34 Both, mainly for myself but, when my wife decide 01:38 to quit I fear it was good time 01:40 as anything for me to quit to. 01:42 Yeah, very important, it's nice to get your wife 01:45 to get you started, but in the end it must be for you, 01:47 because you see if you quit for your wife 01:50 or you quit for your kids, sooner or later 01:54 you will get mad at your wife right? 01:57 And now you don't know how to get even with her right? 02:00 So it's very important that you make the transition, 02:03 but the main person you are quitting for, 02:05 they are only two people I think you are fit 02:07 to quit for, yourself and your God, 02:10 because those are you shouldn't get mad right? 02:14 Sure! And if you get mad at yourself, 02:16 that's not really good, you need to keep 02:20 yours' ego system intact well. 02:23 How is the program been going for you? 02:25 It's terrific. I have a very little discomfort at all. 02:28 I had a little disorientation, and I was tired 02:33 for while but that's going way? 02:35 But I feel great. Was it easier 02:37 then you thought it would be? 02:39 If I knew it was gonna be this easy 02:41 I would've quit a long time ago. 02:44 Oh. It seems like there are lot of others 02:48 out there that having a little tougher time of it. 02:52 Well I think it's because of the program itself 02:55 I have never seen anything like this, 02:57 a public education part of it, I quit on my own 03:01 one time and it was a nightmare. 03:05 And I lasted about 20 months and I went back to 03:09 smoking and I never quit since then until now. 03:12 But I think the education part of this is amazing, 03:17 I mean it just makes so much easier. 03:19 So you've been off since the first night? Yes. 03:22 Shall we give him a big hand, 03:24 I think that's good. Thank you, thank you. 03:30 Alright! Let's come right on up here. 03:35 Hi there! Would you mind giving us your name? 03:37 My name is Dale Hebert. 03:39 Dale, and how much were you used to smoking? 03:41 A pack, pack and half. And where is your button? 03:44 I didn't wear it at the first night. 03:46 Oh didn't wear it at the first night? 03:47 No, but now you deserve on? I think so. 03:52 Two days, two days, but didn't get one last night? 03:57 No I had to skip last night. Oh you skip last night. 03:59 Well let me, do you wondered, Thank you. 04:03 we give you a button here. 04:09 Now that you are into the program 04:11 how do you feel about it? 04:12 I feel great about the program. 04:15 I still feel pretty miserable in terms of quitting. 04:18 What symptoms have you been having? 04:21 Yesterday I was really tired. 04:23 I could not stay awake for a while. 04:26 I was traveling ordinarily. I never sleep on a plane, 04:30 I could not stay awake and so it was kind a tough. 04:34 You feel better today? 04:36 I feel more awake today, little more anxious. 04:38 Let's take a look out of the audience. 04:39 Who is waking off, that feels little awake? 04:41 Oh, oh you see that? Things are gonna improve. 04:45 I told you that if you get your rest for three days 04:49 you will be paid back most of what you old your system 04:52 for more lack of sleep, chronic fatigue that you get 04:56 on the caffeine trip. They are coming. 04:59 They are awaking up, right. 05:00 The twinkle is coming, just look out there 05:02 in a beautiful group. Oh yeah right. 05:07 Does he sound too convincing, does he? 05:12 So, you think this time you are gonna 05:14 put it way and keep it away? 05:15 It think so, yeah I quit for five years 05:18 and memory search me I think it was following 05:20 one of our programs at Bomont. 05:22 That was several years ago, 05:24 does I'm gonna Bomont for well. 05:25 Maybe 83 or 84. And then you went back? 05:27 What don't we gonna discuss that tonight? 05:29 Can you recall a situation that took you back? 05:33 To tell the truth, no. I don't remember 05:36 having an urge to start smoking again. 05:38 I really don't know why? 05:40 I can probably guess but we will talk about it later. 05:43 Lets give the man a big hand. Thank you. 05:50 You have a happy smile, yeah. 05:53 And what is your name? Diane Hendry. 05:55 Diane and how much you use to smoking? 05:58 About a pack a week. 06:00 A pack a week, these people think 06:04 you aren't even a smoker. 06:05 I smoke for about 12 years, 06:07 but you are glad to get rid of it. 06:08 I quit December 26th. Oh quit even before the program 06:12 started and you came for little enforcement? 06:15 Is it helping? Yep, I'm just kind a nervous 06:18 for some kind of stressful moment. 06:21 You know I can't wondering now. 06:24 This is not the time to have one, 06:29 and you feel good about it? Yeah I do, 06:33 and I feel good about your quitting. 06:35 Lets give her big hand, here we go. 06:42 Well I'm talking with this young lady, 06:46 I would like a couple of people that got off today 06:49 for the first time, I mean since last night, 06:51 I mean would you be prepare to come, who else? 06:57 Alright. Why don't you make, just get a way little. 07:01 Hi, hi what's your name? Kathy! Kathy yeah! 07:04 And Kathy how much were you smoking? 07:07 Pack a day. Pack a day, 07:08 and you've been doing that for how long? 07:10 She don't want to say. Yeah, 10 years, 07:15 10 years you started real young. 07:18 And how is the program been going for you? 07:21 Very well, where is our button? In my coat! 07:26 You are supposed to wear that with pride. I do, I do. 07:29 Oh you do, oh you do, alright. 07:30 What symptoms that you have been having? 07:32 Actually I quit the day after Thanksgiving and I had 07:35 a idea that I met have rehab so for the holiday. 07:39 So you are here for enforcement 07:40 and you think it's helping? Very much, 07:42 and how are feeling about it now? I'm not going back. 07:47 Give her a hand, really do that thank you. 08:01 Hi. Now just a minute, weren't you the fellow 08:05 I saw on the hall last night. 08:06 You said I'm a failure and I'm not coming back or. 08:09 No I actually I had to go to work last night 08:11 when I was wanted to be here. 08:15 But, I felt like I failed myself yesterday because 08:17 I smoked one yesterday and maximum stress day at work 08:23 and I snatched a cigarette 08:27 from your wife as matter of fact. 08:30 Where is his wife, she is not here? 08:32 No she is here she is a wimp. 08:33 Alright! Yeah, but maybe, but I made it, you made it. 08:42 And I wanna my pin now. 08:50 Thank you. Let's give him a big hand. 09:04 Man, you ready for mine, 09:06 I'm ready for mine too. What's your name? 09:08 Sue Murray, Sue and you just little slow 09:12 learner or you just. 09:14 I couldn't stop in the car. I would have one on 09:16 the way to work and one on the way home 09:18 and you pep talk last night. 09:22 But where were you getting those cigarettes? 09:24 I stopped and I bought a pack, I couldn't stand 09:28 and I had two cigarettes a day. 09:30 But what makes you decide now that was bad 09:32 and unacceptable behavior. 09:35 Your pep talk last night, that helped, 09:37 got to me. That got to you. Yeah. 09:38 That worked. I knew you for some reason; 09:42 I prayed for you last night, maybe that 09:44 helped. Well good. Well so what do you 09:48 think now? I feel good. Wasn't it as bad 09:50 today as what those other days true or false? 09:52 No, not wasn't, that's thing to people have 09:54 to learn you know it's harder to have one, 09:56 two, or three cigarettes and that is to have none. 09:59 You got to get down to zero, zero. 10:03 And you think you gonna make it this time? 10:05 I know I will not. Lets give her a big hand, 10:10 good, good. 10:15 Now I'm sure there is some other here today 10:17 for the, deserve one for the first time, 10:20 would you stand up and my helpers will give 10:22 you a pin stand right up, and lets give them a 10:26 big hand. Stand right up, those people that are 10:29 making it for the first time. 10:37 Let's get them all, everybody gets a pin 10:44 over here. Now, after we get them a pin. 10:55 You remember that first night we had this 10:57 auditorium almost full, or little bit over full, 10:59 look it here they are still over full isn't that 11:02 good. I want you to let these people; 11:06 people are really doing good to keep 11:08 coming back here. And working on this program, 11:11 everybody including those who just should that 11:13 hasn't smoked in 24 hours I wanna see you 11:16 stand now. Well just stand. If you haven't 11:18 smoked from the 24 hours I want you, 11:20 including those who are support people stand up, 11:23 I want to see what we are doing here. 11:27 Oh just look at that and give them a big hand, 11:30 would you do that, everybody. 11:37 Let's have a seat, and just a final little word 11:43 those haven't quite made that you had do not 11:45 become discouraged. I'm gonna talk to you tonight. 11:50 Wouldn't it be nice if we can get 100%? 11:52 Yeah. I think we are to able to work 11:55 toward 100%, we are getting close to that. 11:57 I'm sure 90-95% they are already and just a few 12:01 more of you we got a do a little something 12:03 to get you over the hump and I really wanna 12:06 to see that accomplished. Now we got to get 12:11 right down to business. Stopping smoking, 12:16 kind a tough? You've been through quite a bit 12:21 most of you right? And those of you who have 12:24 been off since the first day, the good news is, 12:27 the very good news is that you put in the worst 12:31 of the physiological stress mechanism. Amen. 12:41 I can guarantee you that tomorrow 12:44 will be a better day then you've had so far. 12:48 Now it won't be all over it, but by and large 12:52 you will have excreted the nicotine, 12:54 some of you guys start a little later with day 12:56 or two down the line, and the worst of the 13:00 physiological symptoms will be over. 13:02 You will be able to concentrate at 13:04 work again. You should be waking up. 13:09 That terrible air head feeling that you 13:13 complained about should be going away, 13:15 going away. The headaches should be disappearing 13:20 and you will become begin to feel so much 13:23 normal again. Now I think it's time we begin 13:28 to focus on the long term, you have heard 13:33 several people here have you not, 13:35 tell how they got off, two months, 13:40 five months, five years. I have seen people go 13:43 back to smoking as many as 20 years after 13:46 they quit. Now one of the problems that 13:51 I would like you to be aware of, sometime 13:55 along about that you are quitting smoking 13:57 and someone says to you, oh you are 14:01 quitting smoking. You know I quit two years ago 14:04 and I still love to have a cigarette, 14:09 and when they say that you say to yourself, 14:11 oh my goodness if I'm gonna feel like this 14:15 in two years forget it. Now what is important 14:22 for you to do, is ask them this question, 14:24 do you ever go a whole day without thinking 14:28 about a cigarette? You know what they will say? 14:30 Oh sure. But most people that smoke enjoy it. 14:36 And it's amazing how as time goes on, 14:39 we tend to forget the unpleasant and remember 14:42 the pleasant. We had some friends that used 14:46 to come and visit us, and the husbands name 14:49 was George, and his wife and he used to 14:53 come over, and she spent most of the time 14:54 telling us what a terrible husband George was. 14:59 But George was a smoker, and George got 15:03 a stroke and he died. And his wife still comes 15:07 over to see us occasionally. 15:09 And when she talks about her husband, 15:11 I frankly wonder if it's the same man. 15:16 Because he was the finest, noblest, 15:20 most loving husband that anybody ever had. 15:26 What happened? You see she has forgot about 15:29 the unpleasantness that she used to talk 15:31 so mush about and all she can remember 15:33 is the pleasant times they had together. 15:38 Now unfortunately in a way the same thing 15:41 happens about your smoking habit. 15:44 As time goes on you forget about your mouth 15:49 tasting like a Russian Army Camp there 15:51 overnight. You forget about the burned clothes, 15:55 the ashes, the stink, everybody saying get 15:59 that stuff out of there and you just remember 16:02 those pleasant times when you said, 16:06 and you had the nice music, and you relax 16:09 and you've fulfilled your addiction, 16:14 and God read the withdrawal pain, 16:16 and it all comes sweeping back and you think 16:19 how pleasant it was. But let me tell you this, 16:24 as you stay off cigarettes the time 16:26 will come, and it will come quite soon 16:29 When you go whole days without thinking 16:32 about a cigarette, I promise. 16:38 Sometimes it reminds me a little bit of the way 16:42 I feel about mangoes. Mangoes, mangoes, 16:50 you see I and my family spent five years 16:54 in Pakistan where I was a Mission Surgeon. 16:58 And in that tropical country they had 17:02 mangoes, mangoes delicious, succulent, 17:09 juicy mangoes, my kingdom for a mango. 17:12 I want a mango, mango, mango my salivary 17:15 glands are squirting like this, I need a mango, 17:18 get me a mango. 17:28 But you know what; I went all day without 17:31 a mango. And you know what, 17:34 I didn't even think about mangos till I need 17:36 to the illustration to point out how when 17:39 you think back. Yes would I love a mango? 17:42 For sure, but will I get a mango? 17:46 No. And will I survive? Yes. 17:49 And will it spoil my day? No. 17:53 The same thing with your cigarette habit, 17:55 short order you will be going whole day 17:57 is without thinking about it. 17:59 But, we need to be alert, are you listening? 18:03 We need to be alert, because your brain 18:08 will play tricks on you. 18:16 This is the thing we have got keep alert. 18:20 Let me tell you a story. Phone rang one night 18:22 about 10 o'clock. Hello this is Jim. 18:26 Yes Jim! Remember me? Which Jim is it? 18:32 Oh I was the fellow that came to your Stop 18:35 Smoking Clinic about four months ago. 18:38 Doc, you don't know how glad I was to be 18:40 off cigarettes. I was telling everybody 18:42 you got to get to that Stop Smoking Clinic. 18:45 I was practically an evangelist. 18:47 I was practically taking away cigarettes 18:49 from people. I was telling everybody, 18:51 that's the dumbest habit in all the world. 18:55 I came home one night. I sat on my easy chair. 19:00 I looked across the room and there was 19:03 the humidor where I use to keep my cigarettes. 19:06 I didn't know anybody kept their cigarettes in a 19:08 humidor, but he did apparently. And I kept 19:11 thinking, I wonder if I left any cigarettes in that 19:14 humidor. After while I got up and 19:18 I went over there and I opened the humidor. 19:22 Would you believe it? There in the humidor 19:26 was pack my old favorite cigarettes, and just 19:29 two cigarettes in it. 19:32 I said to myself, boy I'm a glad I don't smoke 19:34 anymore. And I closed the humidor. 19:41 Doc, over the next 24 hours those two cigarettes 19:43 drove me nuts. I came back the next night. 19:47 I kept looking across the room 19:50 at the humidor. I said, I wonder if those 19:54 cigarettes are still there? I finally got up, 19:59 and walked across the room, and I opened 20:01 the humidor. Would you believe it? 20:05 They were gone. I said, I wonder what happened 20:08 to those cigarretes. I'll bet my wife saw me 20:12 look in there, I wonder what she did with them. 20:17 Probably threw them in the trash. Sure enough, 20:23 there in a bottom of that waste basket, 20:26 was that pack with two cigarettes in it. 20:29 I said, you know I have heard that after you 20:31 staop smoking for while, and you take a puff, 20:34 it will make you dizzy. I'll bet if I did that 20:38 it would reinforce my smoking decision. 20:41 So, I lit this cigarette, and I took a couple of puffs 20:48 and it made me dizzy. I put it out. 20:52 I stuffed the other cigarette in my pocket. 20:56 Doc, I'm back to two packs of cigarettes a day. 20:58 Do you have another one of those there clinics? 21:03 This is an unadulterated story that I heard 21:05 on the phone this night. But I think it illustrates 21:07 the point. Where did he loose the battle 21:11 with cigarettes? He lost the battle with 21:16 cigarettes at least, when he found them 21:18 and he didn't destroy them you see? Because 21:22 at that moment, what did he 21:24 do? He made provision to smoke. If he had found 21:29 those cigarettes and said What are those doing here? 21:31 And wadded them up and threw them away, he would 21:33 have reinforced his decision. But now he had 21:36 to go back through this whole withdrawal process 21:40 again because he let his brain play tricks on him. 21:44 I want you to be very alert to these thoughts. 21:47 When a thought comes to your mind that 21:50 suggests that you want to make provision 21:53 to smoke, Dont! Are you listening? 21:58 Be very alert, because for most people it's 22:03 like being an alcoholic. 22:04 It doesn't take six packs to put you back 22:07 to smoking. How many took one cigarette 22:09 and found themselves back to smoking again? 22:11 Let me see your hands. That's all about 22:13 it takes, and then it's two, and then it's four 22:15 and before long, you are out to buy the whole pack. 22:18 You don't want to go through this again do you? 22:21 No, no. So keep the mind alert, the tricks that 22:27 it will try to play on you. Now it's very 22:30 important that I explain to you what 22:33 the real risk factors are. 22:39 I went saw a map of it was back about the time 22:43 of Columbus or something that had these continents 22:45 loosely drawn on them and then out here 22:48 where they didn't know what it was, 22:49 instead on that map there are dragons here. 22:53 Well believe me there are dragons out there. 22:57 They are to get you. What do you think 23:02 is the number one association that people 23:05 write down as being associated with they 23:08 going back to smoking? Somebody says coffee, 23:13 but that isn't the number one at least on 23:15 the one we got. Alcohol, alcohol! 23:17 Some alcohol associated thing takes more people 23:22 for my clinics back to smoking then 23:25 anything else. It seems that they get to a party 23:28 they get a glass in one hand, 23:31 and they get a couple of drinks and the will power 23:34 goes down, and the urge goes up, 23:37 and they were use to having a glass in that 23:40 hand and a cigarette in this hand, and somebody 23:42 is there with a cigarette and they think, 23:45 well I can have one cigarette tonight. 23:47 I'm okay, I don't smoke anymore. 23:52 And before the night is done they are back 23:56 to smoking again, number one association; 24:00 some alcohol association. I can't tell 24:03 you when to drink again. 24:04 But I can tell this, if you really serious about 24:08 staying off smoking I wouldn't have a drink 24:11 till I no longer had an urge to have a cigarette 24:14 and then I would hope that maybe 24:16 I wouldn't need the alcohol too. 24:19 I could talk to you about alcohol, 24:21 I get all upset about it, terribly upset since 24:24 one little four year old friend of mine 24:26 was killed by drunk driver and I decided 24:28 that never again in my life would I support 24:30 this industry. But, staying off smoking stay away 24:36 from alcohol at least until you no longer 24:39 have an urge to have a cigarette 24:40 and then you might discover that life can be 24:42 good without alcohol, okay. Doesn't it make 24:49 sense to you; just think about this for minute 24:52 that we could go through life without something 24:55 to alter my brain, to kick it up, to kick it down, 25:00 to tranquilize it, I can take life joys 25:03 and life sorrows. Life pleasures and 25:06 life problems without some mind altering drug. 25:11 That seems like a good way to me, 25:13 that's a kind a lifestyle I like to leave. 25:16 And I find it quit interesting 25:19 and there is nothing quite so boring is going 25:21 to cocktail party when everybody 25:22 is getting drunk. But I've been to few of them, 25:26 but now a days it sort a good news you know, 25:29 use to be than anybody with a glass of orange 25:32 juice is something may thought 25:33 was particularly clear. Clear, but now a days 25:35 I find there is a lot of people that are 25:36 rising up and finding that they can go to social 25:41 occasions and people don't laugh anymore 25:43 when you say, just give me a Virgin Mary 25:47 or give me some orange juice or 25:49 something like that. So stay off until at least 25:53 you no longer have an urge to have cigarette. 25:55 What do you think is a number two situation 25:56 that people right at least, takes them back 25:58 to smoking? Well you think about caffeine 26:02 and it may well be but that's not the number 26:04 two thing they write back to me. 26:06 Stress, stress, some stress situation, 26:11 most smokers when they get stressed 26:14 what they want to do? Smoke. Smoke! 26:17 I actually have a set of slides 26:19 that was made for me, some cartoons 26:21 by an artist of things that people have 26:23 actually written to me and told me that took 26:27 them back to smoking. 26:29 One lady, I picked up the letter 26:32 and there are actually tears stains 26:34 on the letter. And it said something like this, 26:38 doctor I could kick myself from here to Mexico City. 26:43 I had a fight with my husband last night. 26:45 I lost the fight with my husband. 26:47 I lost the battle with cigarettes on the 26:48 same evening. Do you have anymore clinics? 26:54 You see, she was a double loser that night. 27:01 Is there anybody here that doesn't have stress? 27:05 Everybody has stress. I keep saying it, 27:08 you know. Somebody dies, husband runs off 27:12 with a secretary. Kids run around with bumps, 27:17 flunk a test; loose a job. I remember one night 27:21 I was driving down in Detroit two flat tires 27:24 about 3'o clock in the morning when I was going 27:26 for an operation, that's stress. 27:28 But does that solve problems to smoke under 27:31 those circumstances. No. Now I taught 27:34 you one slogan, you learned it. What was it? 27:36 I love Being Free From Smoking. 27:41 Now we are going to come up with our next slogan 27:43 and it's very important, because you will no 27:47 no sooner liver in a day or two or three 27:50 there is gonna be stressful situation 27:53 and every brain and your body is gonna start 27:55 hollering cigarette, cigarette, cigarette. 28:00 And then we must be prepared for it right? 28:03 And this is our slogan. Does cigarette 28:07 solve problems? No, so here is what we say? 28:10 Out loud! Cigarettes Don't Solve Problems. 28:16 Now let say it together, 28:17 Cigarettes Don't Solve Problems. 28:21 Yeah, one more time that we learn it. 28:23 Cigarettes don't solve problems. 28:28 Cigarettes Create Problems, 28:31 cigarettes complicate problems. 28:33 They are like the Watergate. 28:35 Nixon who had the Watergate trying to solve 28:37 the problem did he solve his problem? 28:39 No he lost his presidency over that little 28:42 monkey shine. Cigarettes what? 28:45 Don't solve problems. So when the issue 28:49 comes up you see, you are prepared, 28:52 oh I don't know what cigarette 28:54 don't solve problems. You see because if we go back 28:59 to smoking then we still have to solve 29:01 the problem, then we got a solve the smoking 29:04 problem all over again. You don't wanna do 29:06 that, do you? No. Cigarettes what? 29:09 Don't solve problems. Okay you got it, 29:14 what part is caffeine place, 29:16 several of you mentioned it? 29:19 It's seems to be in general a 29:21 delayed response. It goes something like this, 29:23 and it's a little hard to get a solid hand on it 29:26 and I will tell you ladies and gentlemen, 29:28 I don't give you any monkey shines. 29:30 Anything I tell you has been tested, checked, 29:33 and we know caffeine is a little more difficult 29:37 to get a whole lot because it goes like this. 29:39 Hello doc, yeah. Have you got any more 29:43 those clinics? Why are you asking? 29:46 I'm smoking. How did that happen? 29:50 I don't really know doc, I was off for about 29:52 six months. Then I started to get a 29:56 little nervous. Next question, 30:01 when did you go back on your caffeine? 30:04 Well a couple of weeks ago, I thought 30:05 I was off now and it wasn't bothered 30:07 me anymore. How much coffee you drink it? 30:09 Oh as much as I did before you know started out 30:12 with one cup but now is up to five. 30:15 Do you think mine going back to coffee 30:16 and anything to do with it? Yeah, 30:20 had a lot to do with it. It's almost say the 30:23 same thing for the coffee that I said for the 30:25 alcohol. Stay off it, until you no longer have 30:31 a urge that goes for all the other caffeine 30:33 beverages, tea, coke, tab, doctor pepper 30:37 whatever it is, until you no longer have an urge 30:40 to have a cigarette and hopefully by then 30:44 you will discover, you gonna live 30:47 without coffee. There is life after coffee, 30:51 and it's a better life. How many of 30:54 you are feeling awake, fairly well awake today 30:57 without coffee, let me see your hands. 30:58 You are gonna be more awake tomorrow, 31:00 won't that be good news? And your fatigued 31:03 life comes on; you need your rest you get it? 31:06 Doesn't it make good sense? 31:08 Not to show it out the fatigued life on our body, 31:12 and I will suggest even the decaffeinated coffee 31:15 that you live it off because of the 31:16 psychological associations, now you say, 31:22 what can I have? You want something, 31:24 brown something hot. Let me write down 31:27 just a couple of things that you might drink. 31:34 Personally, I'm not addicted mostly 31:36 hot drinks, but some of my coffee drinking 31:39 friends find these fairly good. 31:45 Aroma, now you might find these in some other 31:49 stores or some of the health food stores. 31:54 If you want places to find them where 31:56 they are cheaper you see me 31:58 and I will tell you person. Aroma is a brown 32:02 beverage that you put in hot water 32:04 and, some people it's hot drink it's made 32:12 from grains, and it doesn't have any 32:16 caffeine in it and my coffee drinking friends 32:18 tell me that's about the best substitute 32:21 they've found. But there some others, 32:24 P-E-RO, and there is another one CAFEIX. 32:32 One of the oldest one and probably the least 32:34 enjoyed by most of my people is POSTUM. 32:41 Probably the easiest find but, most of the people 32:44 that tell me they wanna substitute the best one 32:48 it seems to be Aroma okay. Where you get them? 32:53 I think you can get them in some stores, 32:54 certainly at all health food stores you could 32:56 find them and if you want some, 32:58 if you like it give me a call I'll tell 33:00 where you can get it cheaper. Okay, 33:05 alright. Now back to stay and off smoking. 33:11 Yours physiological urges by and large are gone. 33:17 What isn't gone are the psychological associations, 33:22 and I should tell you that psychology can turn 33:28 on physiology. You remember about 33:32 Pavlov's dogs. They probably taught 33:34 you that in school. They used to ring a bell, 33:36 feed the dogs, measure the gastric juice, 33:38 after a while they found out that they can just 33:42 ring the bell the gastric juice will flow 33:44 and they didn't even need to feed the dogs. 33:47 That's what you call 33:48 Psychological Associations. 33:51 I have one that illustrates it very well. 33:54 You met my sweet wife here at the other night. 33:57 I should tell you that she is a delicious cook. 34:02 I mean she makes good food, and I kind a like 34:08 to get home and eat that. Good food. 34:10 I live on Ridge road in Northville 34:12 and that's a dirt road, its kind like a 34:14 whole Chip Man trail. I mean there chuckle 34:18 hold all the way down it. 34:22 And I don't really get hungry till eat that first 34:25 chuckle hold on ridge road. 34:27 But when I do that, I know that I'm heading 34:29 home and my stomach starts to groan 34:32 and my appetite begins to pickup. 34:35 Now I have noticed something very interesting, 34:39 that sometimes I might go say the warn 34:41 and put on Stop Smoking Clinic 34:43 and I go right pass the Supra, 34:45 it doesn't bother me. I come home 34:48 and end up there about 10'o clock, 34:49 but soon as I hit the ridge road you know what, 34:51 I'm starved, I'm starved, and I come running 34:55 in there and say where is the food? 34:56 She say you gonna eat this late? 34:57 Well you know I'm hungry. Now occasionally, 35:02 I mean it doesn't happen very often, 35:05 but I might have a case scheduled for the 35:07 afternoon and it cancels and I'm late home 35:10 so many times I say I'm gonna surprise 35:13 her sneaking early. So I hit that thing 35:17 about 3 O' Clock that first chuckle, 35:19 I might have eaten lunch at 1, 35:21 but you know I am still hungry, 35:23 doesn't seem to make any difference. 35:26 Psychology turned it on physiology. 35:31 You understand what I'm talking about. 35:33 Now you've got severa psychological triggers 35:37 that will turn on your urge to have a cigarette 35:42 even though you don't have a psychological 35:44 need and in your booklets on page 30 35:49 and you promise me you would do your 35:50 assignments, there is a page called Master Plan 35:56 for blocking triggers, master plan for 36:03 blocking triggers. Now, what, and you are 36:10 supposed to write down what those triggers are, 36:11 you're triggers and what you plan to do to 36:15 get rid of those triggers, okay. 36:18 Somebody just give me a trigger that turns on 36:21 the urge for a cigarette, driving a car, 36:23 driving a car. Sure enough. Driving a car. 36:28 Well let's talk about driving a car first 36:30 tonight and if we had time we work 36:32 it through together. I will make you 36:33 a suggestion, if you like it write it down, 36:35 if you have a better one write your own down. 36:38 You know I pointed out you can actually get 36:41 in a car started up and drive away 36:43 and not smoke, but you've been smoking so long 36:46 that you no more get in the car, 36:48 put the key and you think and you brain says 36:50 cigarette time, cigarette time, cigarette time. 36:55 Now what we know about changing habits 36:58 is that if we will do the same thing for about 37:00 three weeks for the same trigger we will change 37:04 the psychological trigger. So what we have 37:07 to do is put something in the car that 37:10 we will do instead of smoking and 37:13 I suggest that maybe you take as package 37:15 of sugar of gum and stick it up there. 37:17 So you get in the car you turns the switch 37:19 you take, let's take a gum and you start chewing 37:22 and you may become addicted to gum, 37:24 but you probably be able to get off that much 37:26 easier then you get off cigarettes. 37:29 You may wanna put a package of toothpicks up 37:32 there and chewing the toothpick very few people 37:35 die of Dutch Elm disease for chewing toothpicks, 37:39 okay. You got the idea. Telephone rings, 37:43 someone says, you got to have a cigarette. 37:45 You see the telephone rings I need a cigarette, 37:47 I need a cigarette phone rings, 37:51 alright what to do? I will tell you what 37:53 one lady she did. It's interesting to show 37:55 how it works. She told me she took the telephone 37:58 out of the kitchen and she put it in the bedroom. 38:00 She never smoked in the bedroom. 38:02 So at times she walk back to the bedroom 38:04 and there she was in the bedroom talking over 38:05 the phone and it didn't seem to bother 38:07 her at all. I've suggested that people take 38:09 and put a do-do pad by the telephone. 38:14 When they pick it up you know you can start 38:16 writing things on there like I Love Being 38:19 Free from Smoking. If there is bad news 38:23 you write on there Cigarettes; 38:26 Don't Solve Problems, you can draw skull 38:30 and crossbones, you can make symbols like 38:32 you see around the auditorium there, 38:35 you can draw this thing in your figure, 38:37 you can even chew on eraser. 38:40 You see if you do that everyday 38:42 for three weeks, you will reeducated 38:46 your patterns, other triggers. 38:51 After meals, after meals always calls for 38:55 a cigarette. The best solution I've found 38:57 for that is to immediately get up 39:01 from the table and split. Go do a little exercise 39:06 or something like a go for a little walk, 39:09 go get on your exercise bike, 39:11 but don't sit there. Get up and go. 39:18 Alright, you've got the idea now right. 39:21 Now there is one other thing you must be 39:23 particularly alert too. Watch out for situations 39:28 that you know is going to cause trouble. 39:31 Are you listening? I'll give you a couple 39:35 of illustrations. I went to work in the office 39:39 there at the university and one of my nurses 39:42 Maureen smoked. She didn't want me to know 39:46 she smoked. She made up her mind I would 39:50 never catch her smoking. She didn't know that 39:53 every time I walk by her she smells 39:55 like an ashtray. But you know smokers don't know 39:59 they stink, so there is no problem. 40:02 So I decided not to say anything to her. 40:05 She wanted to play the game, 40:07 well I would play her game. 40:10 One day I left the office. This was her trigger 40:16 to light a cigarette, the only problem 40:19 was this day I had forgotten something 40:21 at the office, not on purpose. 40:25 But I forgot something and I spun around 40:28 and I went back in and there was my nurse 40:30 Maureen with her cigarette. 40:32 She was so alarmed she put it in the desk 40:35 and set the desk on fire. 40:42 Deeply embarrassed. After we had the fire 40:46 put out, she said "Doctor I've been thinking 40:52 of coming to one of your smoking programs." 40:57 I said, "Maureen how fortunate, I've got one 40:59 coming up." She came to the smoking clinic. 41:04 She quit smoking. It was just in the fall 41:08 of the year, just before the holidays, 41:12 she came to me and she said, "Doctor, 41:17 one of the other university doctors 41:18 is having a cocktail party. I've got to go. 41:22 If I go to the cocktail party I'll drink, 41:23 and if I drink I'll smoke. What should I do?" 41:27 I said, "Stay home." She said, "He won't understand, 41:32 I've got to go, and if I go I'll drink, 41:34 and if I drink I'll smoke." 41:37 I said, "Do you wanna smoke?" 41:41 She said, "No". I said, "Well then go and don't drink. 41:43 She says, "I never went to a cocktail party and 41:45 didn't drink. And if I go to the cocktail party 41:49 I'll drink, and if I drink I'll smoke." 41:53 "Oh!" I said, "Maureen, you have a 'catch 22'. 41:56 Do you want to smoke?" "No, I don't want to smoke. 41:58 But I got to go to the party, 42:00 and if I go I'll drink and if I drink, I'll smoke." 42:03 I said, "Maureen, let see if we can get a plan. 42:06 Now listen, this is the clue; have a plan. 42:11 She was single. I said, "Are you going to 42:14 take a date?" "Well I might" she said. I said, "Take a 42:16 non-smoking, non-drinking date." 42:21 She says, "I didn't know there were any fellows 42:23 like that." I said, "There are, and maybe I can help 42:31 you find one." It was interesting. 42:35 She came back from the party and she said, 42:38 "You know, it wasn't bad." She said, "I told him, 42:42 'If you see me reaching for a drink stop me. 42:45 If you see me reaching for a cigarette, 42:47 take me home." She ended up marrying the man. 42:53 Audience: "Oh, great!" And they do not smoke and 43:01 they do not drink in that house. 43:02 Now isn't that beautiful? 43:04 Maureen, my nurse. But you see, why was 43:08 possible for her? She had a plan when she went. 43:13 You see if she went there with a smoking, 43:16 drinking man she would have smoked. 43:19 But she had a plan. If you know you're going 43:21 to get into a situation where you can smoke or drink, 43:26 be prepared ahead of a time and know how 43:28 you're going to handle it. 43:30 So you don't get in trouble. It was on a 43:32 Friday night and one of the ladies 43:35 that was there told me, "Doctor, what am I going 43:38 to do this weekend? My daughter graduates 43:40 from Ohio State, I've got to go down 43:42 and pick her up. If there is anytime I smoke, 43:44 it's when I am in my car. I've got an 8 hour trip, 43:47 what am I going to do? 43:51 Help Me! I said, "let's get a plan, you see. 43:55 So we worked this out for her a little bit. 43:58 I said, "Don't take any cigarettes. If you have 44:03 to stop for gas, stay away from the 44:04 cigarette machine. Take along plenty of 44:07 stuff to chew on. Get some sugarless gum, 44:08 get some carrot sticks, get some toothpicks, 44:11 In case you get tired or something, you got 44:13 something else." Then I said, "If worse comes 44:15 to worse, you can do like I used to do with 44:17 the kids." She says, "What's that?" "Well" I said, 44:21 "we had six kids." Now I don't know if you folks 44:23 ever took six kids on a trip or not. 44:26 But you put these kids in the back of the station 44:29 wagon you know. We got a 300 mile trip, and we go 44:31 about 10 miles and they say, 'are we there yet daddy? 44:36 And pretty soon there is some hastling going on 44:38 back there and they say, He did it! No she did it! 44:40 And, and it gets a little bit unbearable 44:44 after while. So I used to say, "OK kids, 44:47 we're gonna stop the car now, and we're gonna 44:49 have a Chinese fire drill. So I get all six kids 44:53 out of the car and I said, "I want you to run 44:55 around this car until I tell you to stop." 44:58 So, here go the kids round, and round, 45:01 and round the car till they are all pooped out. Then I 45:03 put them back in the car and they'd be quiet 45:05 for a while again. Someone might even take a nap. 45:09 So I told her, "If worse comes to worse you know, 45:12 and you just can't stand it any longer, I said 45:14 "Stop the car and have Chinese fire drill. 45:17 Go racing around that thing till you no longer 45:19 have an urge." She came back to following Monday 45:22 for graduation and I was very anxious to 45:24 to talk to her and I said, How did it go?" 45:27 She said, "It wasn't as bad as I thought, 45:29 and I only had two Chinese fire drills." 45:34 But the whole point of it is, if you're going 45:39 to get into a situation that you know 45:44 will be trouble, avoid it if you can. 45:46 If you can't avoid it, have a plan. 45:52 Now do not forget to complete your triggers 45:59 tonight. I think we will have just a minute or 46:01 two now to answer any questions particularly 46:05 about the long term or anything else 46:06 that's bother. Right someone wanna, 46:08 could we get a microphone down here on 46:10 this young lady. She wants to ask us a 46:13 question here. While they are doing that 46:22 let me give you a couple of other suggestions 46:24 that you'll find helpful. Move into other areas 46:29 of personal growth, when you to stop smoking. 46:33 Now tomorrow night we are going to talk to you 46:36 a lot about the number of programs that we have 46:40 that you can join in, that we think we will serve 46:43 as a real enforcement. Increase your physical 46:48 exercise. Do something about your diet. 46:53 Broaden your spiritual base. Do something 46:57 so that you can see that as a person, 47:00 you're getting better and better. 47:02 This will do a lot to reinforce your decisions 47:05 to stay off smoking. Another thing you will 47:07 find very helpful, is to help somebody else quit. 47:12 You know how it's done now; you can work 47:15 with them. Our next Stop Smoking Clinic is 47:19 going to be in Southfield on February 8th. 47:21 I will give you all that date and information 47:23 probably Friday or Monday night. Bring somebody 47:27 and you'll see how that will reinforce your decision 47:31 to stay off. Question here. "When you say 47:33 we were flushing nicotine out of our systems, 47:36 what if you didn't follow that you drank your 47:39 juice but you did have something to eat, 47:41 does it take longer to flush out?" 47:43 The answer is if she was eating and somewhat 47:46 she didn't follow the program 100 percent, 47:49 but she's wearying a button so we're gonna 47:51 be proud of that. Now the nicotine will get out 47:54 in about three days, it goes a little faster 47:56 if you drink because it's excreted by the 47:58 kidneys, but in three days the nicotine will 48:00 be gone. Okay I did drink. That's why the 48:02 physiological symptoms will largely disappear 48:04 in three days. I did how the drinking but I had a 48:07 salad the first night I couldn't go no longer 48:11 but so still work a lot. But you're doing well 48:13 and you feel better tomorrow, alright. 48:15 Okay. Any other questions, yes, right back here 48:18 could you get this lady. Since we've been off 48:25 cigarettes for three days, is our body starting 48:28 now to heal itself or are our lungs starting to 48:30 clean up? Everything is going already. 48:34 It's amazing the body's ability to rehabilitate, 48:39 the damage you do to it if you only give it a 48:43 chance and indeed as I pointed out the other 48:45 night, as far as your heart concern you've 48:47 already got five years behind you. 48:49 Your lungs are starting to clear out, that's why 48:51 many of you are coughing and clearing 48:54 up that junk, sure. Your throats are sore 48:59 but they're gonna feel better in a little bit 49:02 of time. Other question here tonight. 49:03 Yes over here is a lady. Just a minute we're 49:06 coming with a microphone, I think, 49:10 so that everyone can get the question. 49:13 Speak right into it. I've concerned about 49:15 the long terms of term effects, psychological 49:19 like depression. I'm really depressed at the 49:21 prospect of never having another cigarette? 49:23 Alright, anybody else feeling depressed. 49:27 Alright! Maybe I have just time enough 49:34 to talk about this. We will leave some questions 49:36 in another night being how she brought it up. 49:40 There is a grieving process that people 49:42 frequently go through when they quit 49:45 smoking and in your booklet there is a section 49:50 on that. You can look it up, that grieving 49:52 process, I don't know exactly what page it's on. 49:55 But you start out and you feel lot of things 49:59 you go through anger you go through doubts 50:03 and fears and grieving before you come to 50:07 the acceptance part of it. And some of that is 50:12 actually back again where your emotions, 50:14 you know I told you the hypothalamus 50:17 of the brain, that has a lot to do with some 50:20 of our emotions, and it takes a little time for 50:26 that to get better, part of it however is due to 50:32 your emotions telling you one thing while 50:35 your intellect tells you something else. 50:39 Maybe I can illustrate this way. 50:42 Remember I told you about my daughter 50:43 who is in Missionary in Taiwan and when she 50:49 was a teenager, I came home one day 50:55 and I could see she was very depressed. 50:58 And I said Karen what's the trouble? 51:01 Nothing! I said something is a trouble, 51:06 don't you wanna tell me about it? No. 51:11 After a while she said well yes dad, 51:13 I'm depressed. I said why are you depressed? 51:17 She said I want to break up with Dave. 51:21 I said why don't you? She said I wish he call. 51:29 Now do you see the situation here, 51:31 intellectually she said I want to break up 51:34 with Dave, emotionally she said I want him to call. 51:39 She was very depressed because she didn't 51:44 have herself fully integrated there you see? 51:48 After two or three days I came home and 51:49 I could see she was really, she wasn't 51:51 particularly happy but there was some 51:54 tranquility there, and I said honey you look 51:56 like you feel better now. She says I did 51:58 I said did you break up with Dave? 52:00 She said yes and she says I told him don't call. 52:06 So you see now her intellect and her actions 52:12 were on the same wavelength. Now a lot of 52:17 people when they quit smoking, intellectually 52:19 they're glad they've quit emotionally they say 52:23 why am I glad I quit but I like a cigarette 52:26 right now. Do you see the conflict here and 52:30 when you couldn't tell yourself honestly go 52:34 ahead and climb the wall baby you're still not 52:37 going to have a cigarette. And when you know 52:40 you mean that, that will do more to relieve 52:45 the depression then anything else. 52:49 Guys well it doesn't fit my illustration here. 52:53 I will give you the sequel. 52:55 Dave was uncomfortable after that because 52:59 she wanted him to date nobody else and he 53:02 thought that she dates several others, you see 53:04 that was a whole issue. And Dave is the father of 53:07 that little boy we went to Taiwan to see. 53:11 So that worked out pretty good, 53:14 did you have a question? Obviously! 53:17 Alright she has a question about, wait 53:20 but let me tell you something tomorrow night 53:24 is the night we're gonna talk about 53:27 how to stop smoking without growing 53:32 into this size 95, okay? 53:36 Alright how are you feeling? Are you glad that 53:38 you've made it to first three days here? Yes! 53:42 Let's give yourself a big hand, 53:50 God bless you and I will see you 53:52 all here tomorrow night. |
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