Hello, I'm Karen Pearson
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and I'm here again today
with my co-host Pierre Quinn.
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Hello, Pierre. Hey, Karen.
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How are you? Good.
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We're here to bring
you another episode of
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"Stones of Remembrance,"
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the program where we visit
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with one of
your favorite authors
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and look at some of the
experiences in their life
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that helped to shape them
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and the message
found in their books.
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So often in life,
Pierre, as you know,
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when we go through
life's deep waters,
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just as Joshua did,
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we can meet up with
some unexpected blessings
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along the way that can
turn the whole direction
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and determine the
future of our lives.
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But before I
introduce you to today's guest,
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I'd like to share something
with you from the word.
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It is found in Isaiah
65:24 and it reads this way,
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"It shall come to
pass, that before they call,
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I will answer,
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and while they
are still speaking,
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I will hear."
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I just love this passage so much
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and I know that
our guest does too,
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because she's
written a wonderful book
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about the topic of
prayer, "Passionate Prayer."
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Brenda Walsh,
welcome to our program.
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Thank you, Karen.
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Thank you,
Pierre, for having me.
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It's a privilege to be here.
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We're so-- we're so
excited to have you here.
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We really are. Thank you.
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Oh, thank you so much.
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Brenda, you hardly
need an introduction
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to the 3ABN family.
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Your face is
recognized and known.
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You are loved around the world
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from the very
young to the very old.
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People whom you will
never meet who have been blessed
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and whose lives
have been changed...
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by your faithfulness
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and your obedience to
God's call on your life.
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So, we would just
like to say thank you.
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Thank you for being obedient.
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It's, I think
it's me that thanks God
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for the privilege to serve Him.
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There is no greater
joy than serving Jesus
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and it's not something I
just say, I truly mean it.
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Yes, yes. "Passionate Prayer."
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Tell us how did you
come to write that book?
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Well, the reason that um...
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uh, I wrote that
book actually was...
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I speak somewhere in...
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almost every weekend and,
and places where I'd speak
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I'd be sharing the experiences
and the witnessing experiences
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and then answered the
prayer experiences that God has,
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had been giving me
everywhere I was going.
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And so I would speak about
them and share these experiences
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and people as I was
shaking their hands,
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going out the door,
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"these stories
need to be in a book,
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these stories
need to be in a book."
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And, and so, I'll um... about...
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uh, I don't know,
know how many times
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after that one time but
someone shook my hand and said
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"No, I mean it." You
know, they are... and I...
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"These stories need a book."
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And I got home that night
and been having my worship
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and I was like, "Lord, are you
trying to tell me something?"
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And I said, "If you
want these stories in a book,
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Lord, you know, um...
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I'm willing and I'm
obedient and I'll be joyful
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about whatever it
is you want me to do
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but I need to
know it's Your Will."
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And then I prayed, and
I believe that you know,
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the story of Gideon is
in the Bible for a reason.
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And uh, and I said, "Lord..."
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you know, if I didn't
have no time on my schedule.
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I said, "So, Lord, if
these stories, I supposed,
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if you want me to
write this stories..."
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Um, because God does
like us to share stories,
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because they are
faith building to others.
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And I said, "Then Lord, I
need to open up my calendar
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because I have no time."
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And the very next
day, I'm looking at...
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I get a call from, from Hawaii,
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asking me to do an
evangelistic series on,
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you know um, there and
they had actually asked.
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I was already booked to do
it but they had given me a call
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of very next day just to
go over some of those things
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that I'd been talking
about and, and then I realized.
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I said, "So, do I have
anything during the day?"
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And they said, "Oh,
no, you'll just be speaking
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each night, 7 o' clock."
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And I was like, "Okay, I'm
gonna have every single day
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for three weeks, um, open."
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And you know, Karen and
Pierre, that's what I did.
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I was like, "Okay,
Lord, You just opened
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three of my weeks right there."
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You had no idea.
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So I flew to Hawaii
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and here I have
a beautiful place.
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I'm right on there.
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I wish I could have
really walked out everyday.
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And my feet never hit the sand
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the whole time
of the three weeks.
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I stayed in my little
room and with my laptop
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and I would just
literally just sit up in bed
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and I wrote all day long.
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Page after page,
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and many of those
stories I cried my way through.
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I mean, there are some stories
in the book that are just,
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you know, just I literally,
you can know when I am writing,
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I'm literally crying my
way through those stories,
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some of them.
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And, um... and then
at 5 o' clock, I'm like,
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I'm a high maintenance woman,
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I have a
two-hour-get-ready process.
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So, at 5 o' clock, I'd
quit everyday to go get ready
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and be at the church at
seven to speak and then um...
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uh, then the next
day hit it all day.
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So for three weeks,
I wrote that book, um,
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"Passionate Prayer." Wow.
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And that all I did all day long.
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Never once even did my feet
hit the sand, near the ocean.
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I'm probably the only
person that goes to Hawaii
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and doesn't pack a bathing suit.
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I was working.
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Well, you called the
book, "Passionate Prayer,"
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instead of just
labeling in a book on prayer.
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What, why is that,
that term there "passion,"
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so important and how should
it impact our prayer lives?
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Pierre, I'm so glad you asked
that because I think there is,
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you're not the only one
that would ask that question.
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There's many
people confused that what,
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like what is the
difference between
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prayer and passionate prayer.
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And the difference is um...
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many people when they pray,
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they just go through
the motions of prayer.
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They just hit
all their highlights,
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they'd hit every single day,
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telling God the same
thing day in, day out.
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And they forget that they
are like in the throne room,
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with the King of the universe.
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They forget that we really
have the incredible privilege
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of speaking directly one-on-one
to our Lord and Savior.
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And so, they are just going
through the motions of prayer,
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saying the things
there and even during prayer,
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sometimes their mind
just start wandering.
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They'll start
thinking about the laundry,
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they'll start
thinking what they gotta do
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at the office that next day
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or what's going on in their job.
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"Oh, oh, wait a
minute. I'm back.
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Oh, oh I'm praying."
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You know, and then
back to their prayer.
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They forget that
passionate prayer
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is really sharing
our heart with God,
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telling him one-on-one
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what we are feeling,
what are our thoughts.
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And also, you know,
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sometimes I love to come
to God just to praise Him.
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I'd say, "Lord, You
are the most awesome God.
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I don't want to
ask You for anything.
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I just really want to spend
this time in Your presence,
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Lord, to tell you
what an awesome God You are
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and how much I love You
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and Lord, I am so unworthy
to be Your child and yet,
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You gave Your life for me, Lord.
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I just want to tell
you how much I love You.
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You are worthy of my praise."
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And just give Him, you
know, that time to just...
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it's like God loves to hear us
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tell Him how
much we love Him too,
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not just to go and
ask Him for things,
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so if you want to
know the difference
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between prayer
and passionate prayer,
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that's the difference,
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really sharing
your heart with God.
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Yeah. Amen.
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Brenda, I love your
subtitle that you chose,
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"Expect Great Things." Yes.
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Isn't that true,
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that we can expect great things?
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Can you think of
a specific example
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or specific
story where you learnt
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that you could expect
great things from God?
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Oh, I have a million
of those kind of stories
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because I grew up in
Christ-centered home.
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I'm a pastor's daughter
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and my mom and dad
raised five children,
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we're all five of us in
fulltime ministry today.
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And we grew up knowing
that in claiming Jeremiah 33:3,
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"Call upon me
and I will answer you
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and show you
great and mighty things
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that you know not of."
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And that subtitle was really
coming off Jeremiah 33:3, uh,
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because I think so many of
us when we pray, we pray hoping,
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hoping, hoping that our prayers
are going to get answered
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but we don't pray with faith,
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we don't pray
absolutely believing
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that God will
answer our prayers.
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And so, um, I, I could tell
you a million different ones,
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we wouldn't have time
in this, in this, you know,
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half hour to able
to be talk about that.
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But if you wanted just to
say that one prayer that I know
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I prayed, you know, with the...
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even the amount of
faith I thought that um...
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that I should have, is
a story in the book called
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"Unloaded Suitcase,"
or "The Loaded Suitcase."
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I'm sorry, it's
called, "The Loaded Suitcase,"
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and if you read that
story, that is such a, that's,
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that's such a
powerful story in that book
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because it
represents to me, Pierre, um...
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that how God will honor even
the smallest amount of faith.
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You know, how in the Bible,
we are told that God will honor
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even though his faith is small
as a grain of a mustard seed.
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That story is in the book
for people that are still...
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their faith is still growing.
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And maybe they don't have
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the kind of
faith they should have,
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but God honors even the
smallest amount of faith.
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And that story,
"The Loaded Suitcase,"
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is the story you read,
if you are lacking faith,
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God honored even my
small amount of faith
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because I was praying
with not very much faith at all
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and yet God still
honored my prayer.
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That's an amazing
story in the book.
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Amen. Yes, it is.
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In fact you traveled
around the world... Yes.
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Were you always happy to
go when God first told you
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this is part of your
mission to go and travel?
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Were you just excited
that first time around?
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Do you know, I believe
and claim Matthew 7:21-23.
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In fact, I think it's probably,
if I had to choose um...
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a scripture in the Bible
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that has an impact in my
life the most, it's that.
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Mathew 7:21-22. I
preach it everywhere I go.
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I tell people to
underline it in their Bibles
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because in it, here God
is telling us in that text,
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that unless we are
doing the will of our Father,
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it is for nothing.
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He will say He never knew us.
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I'm paraphrasing that you know,
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unless we are doing
what God wants us to do,
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He says we can be all
baptizing in His name,
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doing many wonderful works
but unless He tells us to do it
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He'll say He never knew us.
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That means, guess what?
We're not going to heaven.
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If God says, He never
knew, well, never knows us,
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we're not going.
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And so, that tells me
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the importance of
doing what's God's will.
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So, that tells me, first of all,
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we have to be willing to
do what God wants us to do.
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He's not gonna makes us.
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And then we have to be
obedient, Matthew 7:21-23.
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And God, there's
one more a component,
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if you really
want to serve Jesus.
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It's not enough to be willing,
not enough to be obedient
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but we must be joyful and...
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Oh, I like that.
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And because God
doesn't want an attitude of,
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"Oh, all right,
Lord, I'll do it."
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That's not an
attitude God can use.
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If someone says that to us
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when we ask him to do something,
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what do we gonna say?
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Don't bother. You
know, don't bother.
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I'll do it myself.
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Well, how do
you think God feels?
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So when you ask me, am I joyful?
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And the truthful,
honored answer is, "Not always."
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I'm, I'm willing
and I'm obedient.
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I'm-- I can get those two
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but I don't always have
the joy God wants me to have.
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And I pray for
it, and I can say,
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"Lord, you know, I'm not--
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I don't have the
joy, I don't want to go.
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Lord, I want to
be in my own kitchen.
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I want to be...
pets around my own house.
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I want to be able to,
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you know, linger
a little bit longer,
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my worship time with You.
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Lord, I just want a
house hug a little."
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And then, I'll hear God's
voice speaking to me saying,
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"Brenda, did you
really mean it when you said
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I can use you
however I want to use you?
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And I will have that
voice so strong and I will say,
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"Lord, forgive me.
Lord, please give me the joy.
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I'm willing and obedient.
Please give me the joy."
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And God will
always give me the joy,
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unless I'm going out
there, joyfully to serve Jesus,
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it is for nothing.
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I won't get on that plane.
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I'm not gonna get in that car,
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unless I haven't already worked
that out with God that says,
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"Lord, give me that joy."
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And He will
always give me that joy.
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But in my human,
in my weak, are there,
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do I have those moments when
I, I'm like, travel so much.
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I want a house hug.
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And that's just
the human side of me,
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but God will give me
that joy when I ask Him.
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Amen. Right.
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Brenda, what would you say
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is the most important
reason for us to pray?
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Well, I think that's a
really great question, Karen,
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because the most
important reason to pray
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isn't to get things.
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It's not to get all the
answers to your prayers.
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It's not to, you
know, have every thing
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turn out wonderful in your life.
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The most important reason
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is to have that one-on-one
relationship with Jesus.
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The most important
reason for prayer is,
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to have that communication,
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because without
it we're nothing.
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Without that
direct link with God,
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we have, we couldn't
accomplish any thing.
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We'll be lost.
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And so that's the most
important, really. Right.
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And like with, with any of
our relationships that we have,
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if there is no communication,
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the relationship
starts to break down.
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If, and also how many um...
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let's just say how
many relationships, uh,
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not just between
husband and wife,
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any relationship we have,
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when we are
receiving your best friend.
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If you told each other the
same thing every single day
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the next time that phone
ring, and you saw in your id,
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"Oh, that's says, oh,
Susie's calling me again Oh.
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I know what she's going to say."
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Are you going to be
tempted not to take that call?
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You know, pretty
soon you are gonna
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want to talk to her at all.
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You know what
she is going to say.
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Right. You see?
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God feel, He's got
to feel the same way,
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if we are coming to Him,
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saying the same
thing every single day.
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You know, we're not
really sharing our heart.
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So it's really
important. Okay, very good.
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We're gonna take
a break right now
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and if you want to find out
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about the story of
"The Loaded Suitcase,"
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you are going to
want to watch this
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because we are gonna tell you
how you can get Brenda's book
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"Passionate Prayer".
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Don't go away,
we'll be right back.
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Thank you so much.
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Brenda Walsh has
learnt by experience,
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the power of
"Passionate Prayer".
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This book is filled
with miracle stories
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of God's
intervention in her life
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and in the lives of
those for whom she has prayed.
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These exciting stories
will amaze and inspire you.
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Brenda invites
you to a prayer life
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that goes beyond
prayer as a duty or a habit
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to something effective.
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changing results,
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not only for
yourself but for others.
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She reveals the most
important reason for prayer,
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because we want
to know Jesus better.
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Prayer is not just words
in a one way conversation,
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it's a transforming relationship
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with God and Savior.
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Welcome back, we are visiting
today with Brenda Walsh,
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a famous, familiar face
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to our 3ABN
audiences around the world.
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Brenda, we talk
about in this program
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those middle of
the river experiences,
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those things that we
go through in life, um...
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where we can come
away with a story,
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some kind of a memorial, umm...
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You know, the altar that Joshua
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built in the
middle of the river?
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Yes. The water
is covered over it?
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Sometimes some of those
personal stories are things
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that we don't
share um..whatever,
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but they take us
and they shape us
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and the heart of their message
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is found in our
books as, as writers.
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And I was wondering
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what kind of a middle
of the river experience
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have you had,
where you saw Jesus
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perhaps in a way that you
had never seen Him before?
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Well, that's an easy one.
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Karen, um... my first
book, "Battered to Blessed."
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I was a battered
wife in my first marriage
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and I told my
story in this book.
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In fact, "Passionate
Prayer" is like the sequel.
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If you read
"Battered to Blessed,"
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and then you just like
put those books together,
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it'd be like, keep reading.
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And so, it really
is "Passionate Prayer"
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is the sequel of
"Battered to Blessed,"
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but, um, there is,
there is a lot of people
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that would ask me, you know,
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like how did
you get out of that,
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that dangerous situation?
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And of course, you
gonna have to read the book
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to find that out
'cause another book.
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But it was an experience
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when it was my last
night in that situation,
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and when I knew
that I would die.
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I knew that, you
know, he had really,
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my ex-husband had
beat me up so badly that,
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I mean, my teeth were
buried in my bottom lip
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and you know, these
are no longer my teeth
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and, and I was, um.
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I was beat up so
badly, holding my little baby,
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you know, with, you
know, she's covered in blood,
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I'm covered in blood and, and I,
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I can hear those footsteps
coming and I, you know,
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'cause he had left and
now I know he's coming back
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and I knew I
probably had seconds to live.
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I knew this time I would die.
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And I remember
praying and, and...
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reciting, you
know, um...why these,
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these Bible texts
come into your mind?
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But they do when you put
God's word in your heart,
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He can bring those to your
memory right when you need them
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And the "Lord is my
shepherd, I shall not want."
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And I remembered that
just, I just kept saying that
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over and over to me and then,
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other text would come
that would encouraged me.
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And I remember
sitting there and praying
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and surrendering my
heart to Lord knowing that
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I probably only have
a short time to live.
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And praying and asking
God to let my baby die with me
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'cause I didn't
want her to be left alone
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in the world with this man.
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And after
praying and asking God,
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I didn't even pray and
asked Him to save me anymore,
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just if He could let us go
quickly and, and go together,
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and hearing those footsteps
and then I could hardly see
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'cause my eyes
were swollen shut.
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I could just see through barely
just the slits in my eyes.
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And I'm looking up
and I see this form
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and I hear the
voice of my sister, Linda.
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And um, that's when I knew
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how much Jesus
loved me for sure.
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What an amazing story!
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Yeah, I think we all are.
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So getting out,
out of that situation,
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nothing short of
a miracle, right?
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Oh, it's a miracle.
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I know how much Jesus loves me.
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I didn't deserve
for Him to save me,
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'cause I was there
because of own mistakes,
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my own foolish pride, you
know, put me in that situation.
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I took a path
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and I chose a path
God didn't choose for me.
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I make that very clear.
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It was my own foolish pride
that got me in that situation
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and yet, Jesus saved me.
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Now you have that story.
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There are some
people who might say though,
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miracles, uh, those things
only really happen in the Bible,
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but as we are
reading "Passionate Prayer,"
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you are praying for miracles.
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Can you share one
of those experiences
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where you are praying
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and it's nothing
short of a miracle that,
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that the situation
was able to turn around?
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Oh, my goodness, I
think it's every chapter.
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Um... I think about um...
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a little in every
chapter in that book, it's just,
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faith-building miracles
that are today miracles.
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And you are right, so
many people don't believe
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that God is a God of miracles.
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Just in the Bible times,
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but God is
miracle-making God today.
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Um...Marge's mission, you
know, the Bookmark Ministry and,
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and we know, it's
my precious friend
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and she's laying
on her death bed,
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dying and, you know I
the, I'm pleading and praying.
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God knows that I want
to say goodbye to her.
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And you know, I don't even
know what hospital she's in.
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I just I don't even
know she's in the hospital.
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I just knew that she had to be--
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God, the Holy
Spirit was pressing me
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and here for me to call and,
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and be able to
share with the nurse
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and have her take
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and let her have those last
minute conversation with her,
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that was a miracle.
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That was an absolute miracle.
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I think about the
miracle um... you know, of just
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the "Reluctant
Missionary," you know.
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Then you are gonna
laugh lot now in that one too
00:19:53.25\00:19:55.02
but there's a miracle
story that is in there.
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I have the miracle stories
of my friend Donna Kline,
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and praying for her husband who,
00:20:01.16\00:20:03.67
you know, had a brain tumor.
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"Sarah makes a wish."
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You know, this was
the girls that, um, uh,
00:20:07.37\00:20:09.80
I met through
Make-A-Wish Foundation.
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I mean, how incredible
00:20:11.71\00:20:13.51
that a little
eight year old girl,
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that, you know, is
not expected to live,
00:20:15.38\00:20:17.28
has a brain tumor,
00:20:17.31\00:20:18.65
Make-A-Wish
Foundation contacts her to say,
00:20:18.68\00:20:21.65
"Where would you
like to um, you know, go?
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What would, what would you like?
00:20:24.59\00:20:25.92
Anything in the world
that they want, they can choose
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and they are gonna make
that wish come to happen.
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And she says, "She
didn't want to wish
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unless she could
come and be on Kids Time.
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And that was her wish.
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And look out how
incredible miracle
00:20:34.86\00:20:37.17
that God worked in her life.
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She's still alive today.
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I mean, some
people don't know that,
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I'm glad to have an
opportunity to tell.
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I mean, you talk about miracles,
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God created a miracle.
00:20:45.24\00:20:46.98
But if I wanted
to share with you
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one of the most
heart touching miracles,
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it's actually the
last chapter of the book.
00:20:50.35\00:20:54.35
When the book had
already been written,
00:20:54.38\00:20:56.12
this was an added chapter.
00:20:56.15\00:20:57.92
Jerry Thomas, he's at 3ABN,
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I mean, he's at Pacific Press
00:21:00.39\00:21:01.96
and God worked an
incredible miracle
00:21:01.99\00:21:04.93
in my grandson's life.
00:21:04.96\00:21:06.29
I was actually
here, taping cooking shows
00:21:06.33\00:21:08.03
when I got the call
that he was not gonna live,
00:21:08.06\00:21:10.17
my little grandson.
00:21:10.20\00:21:11.73
And I mean, I raced to Boston.
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I'm there by his side. I
can see his lifeless body.
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And I don't want give it away,
00:21:18.97\00:21:20.51
but God worked an
incredible miracle
00:21:20.54\00:21:22.98
to save his life.
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And as I'm driving
home, even that next weekend,
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and the books, going to
press, it's in a printing.
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You know what
that's like. Yes, I do.
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It's got a print date and
I'm calling Jerry and said,
00:21:34.26\00:21:36.89
"Jerry..." "We've got
another chapter coming!"
00:21:36.93\00:21:38.69
"I've got to add one
more chapter in this book"
00:21:38.73\00:21:40.53
"Brenda, no, it's ready to go."
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And I'm like,
"Jerry, you don't understand.
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There, God did not
just let this miracle happen
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to keep it to myself.
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The world has to know
00:21:48.70\00:21:50.04
what a miracle
making God we serve today."
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And I shared the story with him.
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I think he was in tears.
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And he said, "You are right.
00:21:55.41\00:21:56.75
This story's got
to make the book.
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Okay, I'm going
to hold the presses,
00:21:58.15\00:21:59.48
but can you get
this story to me today?"
00:21:59.51\00:22:01.35
I said, "You know
what, my husband..."
00:22:01.38\00:22:03.05
He had flown up and, I
mean, drove up actually,
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and he said, "We
are driving back today."
00:22:05.89\00:22:08.12
"I will have my laptop.
I will write on the road.
00:22:08.16\00:22:10.39
We'll stop at an
Internet cafe, restaurant.
00:22:10.43\00:22:13.56
I will, you
know, send it to you."
00:22:13.60\00:22:15.53
And he said, "Okay."
And that's what happened.
00:22:15.56\00:22:17.17
I literally wrote
that last chapter,
00:22:17.20\00:22:18.70
driving down the
road and then we stopped,
00:22:18.73\00:22:20.94
I think at
McDonald's for free Wi-Fi,
00:22:20.97\00:22:23.44
and downloaded it to Jerry
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and he got it that
day and it made the book.
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And yet, it is one of
the most powerful stories.
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You read that story. Oh, wow.
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You, there is
no way you can read
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and not know we
served a miracle making God.
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And that's really two miracles.
00:22:38.69\00:22:40.29
That the
experience with your grandson
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and then getting
it into the book.
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In the book, exactly
'cause that was ready go.
00:22:44.43\00:22:46.06
It should have not
happened and yet, God allowed
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and if Jerry Thomas had not
been touched to say, "Look..."
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You know, he could have easily
said, "Brenda, the next one."
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And actually there is
going to be a next book.
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It's called
"Divine Appointments."
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And it's all my
witnessing stories, you know.
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And there's some,
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there's a witnessing
story in the book that um...
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you talk about a
miracle making story and that
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"Flying First Class?"
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Do you remember
that story in the book,
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"Flying First Class?"
00:23:11.62\00:23:12.95
And, and God turned, you
know, what should've been
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a two hour plane ride
into a six hour Bible study.
00:23:16.62\00:23:21.40
Right, right. And
it's an amazing story.
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I do remember that.
00:23:24.70\00:23:26.03
Brenda, I must just
ask you quickly. Yes.
00:23:26.07\00:23:27.44
We just have a few seconds.
00:23:27.47\00:23:30.84
People listening to you
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and seeing your
passion and your enthusiasm,
00:23:32.64\00:23:35.01
what would you say to the person
00:23:35.04\00:23:36.48
who does not have as
closer walk with Jesus and says,
00:23:36.51\00:23:40.88
"Well, no wonder
God answers her prayers.
00:23:40.92\00:23:43.15
She knows how to pray.
00:23:43.18\00:23:44.65
She's an expert prayer, I'm not.
00:23:44.69\00:23:48.36
I'm just this,
I'm just so ordinary."
00:23:48.39\00:23:50.83
What would you say to
someone who is so timid
00:23:50.86\00:23:53.03
and just needs
that encouragement
00:23:53.06\00:23:55.00
that they can
become a prayer warrior
00:23:55.03\00:23:57.00
and a woman of faith,
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a man of faith in
their prayers as well?
00:23:58.40\00:24:01.37
Well, I was actually,
00:24:01.40\00:24:02.74
I am asked this
question many times
00:24:02.77\00:24:04.17
and I just spend...
00:24:04.21\00:24:06.04
I was on a speaking tour
in Australia and New Zealand,
00:24:06.07\00:24:08.68
I just came back
from, for a month.
00:24:08.71\00:24:10.58
And I was asked this,
00:24:10.61\00:24:12.05
this question in
almost every place I went
00:24:12.08\00:24:14.92
and the answer is,
God's not looking for,
00:24:14.95\00:24:18.02
you know, He doesn't
just answer the prayers
00:24:18.05\00:24:20.06
that are the most eloquent.
00:24:20.09\00:24:21.76
He answers the
prayers of somebody
00:24:21.79\00:24:24.23
speaking to Him heart to heart.
00:24:24.26\00:24:25.93
Sometimes the simplest prayer,
00:24:25.96\00:24:27.46
the most powerful pray you
can pray is just three words,
00:24:27.50\00:24:30.63
"Jesus save me."
00:24:30.67\00:24:33.07
And He's not, it doesn't
have to be a fancy prayer.
00:24:33.10\00:24:35.77
In fact, God
prefers we talk to Him
00:24:35.80\00:24:37.97
just like we're
talking to our best friend
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because He is our best friend.
00:24:39.84\00:24:41.54
And He doesn't just answer
the prayers of our preachers
00:24:41.58\00:24:45.48
or of our godly people that are,
00:24:45.51\00:24:48.48
that are lifted up,
you know to, you know,
00:24:48.52\00:24:51.85
if somebody's idea of
somebody on a pedestal
00:24:51.89\00:24:53.96
which we shouldn't
be any one pedestal,
00:24:53.99\00:24:55.49
not even our pastors.
00:24:55.52\00:24:56.96
God created all of us equal.
00:24:56.99\00:24:58.83
He's given us
different jobs to do,
00:24:58.86\00:25:00.63
but we are all ministers.
00:25:00.66\00:25:02.76
And, and here is
what I say about prayer,
00:25:02.80\00:25:05.47
the closer we
want to be to Jesus,
00:25:05.50\00:25:09.64
the more time we
will spend with Him.
00:25:09.67\00:25:11.81
There's many, many people
00:25:11.84\00:25:13.61
who spend so many hours
a day in prayer with Jesus
00:25:13.64\00:25:17.38
and they are going to be
on a closer relationship.
00:25:17.41\00:25:20.22
If you just viewed
our prayer walk with Jesus
00:25:20.25\00:25:22.48
like a ladder to heaven.
00:25:22.52\00:25:23.99
The ones that spend
the most time with Him,
00:25:24.02\00:25:25.79
they are going to be
00:25:25.82\00:25:27.16
on the highest
rung of the ladder.
00:25:27.19\00:25:28.52
But our baby Christians
that are still learning
00:25:28.56\00:25:30.26
are going to be down here.
00:25:30.29\00:25:31.63
We shouldn't be stomping
on the fingers of the people
00:25:31.66\00:25:33.86
climbing ladder,
judging and complaining.
00:25:33.90\00:25:36.20
We need to be helping each other
00:25:36.23\00:25:37.63
and lifting each
other up and helping them,
00:25:37.67\00:25:39.47
because the more we
spend time with God,
00:25:39.50\00:25:43.00
the closer we will grow to Him.
00:25:43.04\00:25:45.81
Brenda, we thank you so much.
00:25:45.84\00:25:47.61
Unfortunately
we've run out of time.
00:25:47.64\00:25:50.05
Already? I was
just getting started!
00:25:50.08\00:25:51.81
I know.
00:25:51.85\00:25:53.18
We were having our conversation
today with Brenda Walsh
00:25:53.21\00:25:55.22
about her book
"Passionate Prayer."
00:25:55.25\00:25:57.15
And the book is
really highlights
00:25:57.19\00:25:58.85
some stories of
miracles of answered prayers.
00:25:58.89\00:26:02.02
And have you considered
that one of the reasons
00:26:02.06\00:26:05.06
why people don't
believe in miracles anymore,
00:26:05.09\00:26:08.50
is because you
haven't shared your story?
00:26:08.53\00:26:10.83
As we've gone
through Brenda's books,
00:26:10.87\00:26:12.70
she shares story after story,
00:26:12.73\00:26:14.70
after story to help
us believe in miracles.
00:26:14.74\00:26:17.71
Again, miracles that are the
answers to passionate prayer.
00:26:17.74\00:26:22.48
We don't know what your
struggle is in your prayer life
00:26:22.51\00:26:24.58
but we want to encourage you.
00:26:24.61\00:26:25.95
I know Brenda
wants to encourage you
00:26:25.98\00:26:27.32
to keep on praying
00:26:27.35\00:26:29.08
and take sometime
to remember the stories
00:26:29.12\00:26:33.02
of where God has
brought you from.
00:26:33.05\00:26:35.62
I'm Pierre Quinn and for
my co-host Karen Pearson,
00:26:35.66\00:26:40.00
we've enjoyed another episode
of "Stones of Remembrance,"
00:26:40.03\00:26:43.06
and specially a call
to "Passionate Prayer."
00:26:43.10\00:26:45.80
We want to thank you for
watching another program,
00:26:45.83\00:26:48.50
and we encourage you to
stay tuned for next time.
00:26:48.54\00:26:51.94
We've another conversation
about "Stones of Remembrance."
00:26:51.97\00:26:56.11
Take care and
we'll see you next time.
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