Participants: Karen Pierson & Pierre Quinn (Host)
Series Code: SOR
Program Code: SOR000010A
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00:23 Hello, I'm Karen Pearson,
00:24 and I'm here today with my co-host Pierre Quinn. 00:27 Hey, Pierre, how are you? 00:28 I'm good, Karen, thanks. 00:30 Yeah. Good. 00:31 We are here to bring you 00:32 another episode of Stones of Remembrance, 00:34 the program where we visit 00:35 with one of your favorite authors 00:37 and look at some of the life experiences 00:39 they've gone through that have helped to shape them 00:42 and the message that they share in their books. 00:45 So often as we pass through life's deep waters 00:48 just as Joshua did, 00:50 we can meet up with some unexpected blessings 00:53 that determine the whole future direction of our lives 00:57 and our ministries and so, 01:00 before I introduce you to today's guest, 01:03 I want to share something with you from the word. 01:06 It's the text I know that you probably are very familiar with 01:09 and may even be a favorite verse of yours. 01:11 It's found in Psalms 37:4, "Delight yourself in the Lord, 01:17 and He shall give you the desires of your heart." 01:21 I just love that word delight. 01:22 Amen. Yeah. 01:24 Just delight yourself in the Lord. 01:26 Very precious passage to me 01:27 and I know to many of our viewers as well. 01:30 I would like to welcome to the program Tamyra Horst. 01:33 Hi, Tamyra. Hi. 01:35 How are you? 01:36 Good, it's exciting to be with you and Pierre today. 01:37 Thank you. 01:39 We're so glad that you could join us. 01:40 Thank you. 01:42 Tamyra is the author 01:43 of 'Praying Like Crazy For Your Kids' 01:46 and 'Praying Like Crazy For Your Husband.' 01:49 She is also the Women's Ministries Director 01:53 of Pennsylvania Conference. 01:54 You wear so many hats, don't you? 01:55 Communication Director is my main title 01:57 but Women's Ministries is my passion. 01:59 Okay, I like that. 02:01 That's your passion. 02:03 Spoken like a communication director. 02:04 Yes. 02:06 Very good. 02:08 So you've written several books and how many? 02:14 Eight or nine plus some ministry resources 02:17 and things like that. 02:19 Okay. 02:20 Our authors have written a lot of stuff, haven't they? 02:22 Yeah. 02:24 Yeah, eight or nine books is pretty cool. 02:25 Did you ever know 02:27 that you were going to write books. 02:28 When I was little girl, that's what I wanted to be. 02:29 What I didn't know that I would end up doing would be speaking 02:33 and being on TV programs and, 02:35 you know, that kind of crazy stuff 02:36 because I was just such as incredibly shy, 02:40 quiet, fearful kid, 02:41 but I always knew I wanted to write. 02:43 That's amazing because 02:45 we don't sense that about you all now. 02:48 God can really intake the foolish things 02:49 and change them again. 02:53 Tammy, as we think about prayer, 02:59 what are some of the misconceptions 03:01 that people have about prayer. 03:04 I think people feel like that prayer is gonna get them 03:08 what they want every time. 03:10 If they would just pray enough 03:12 or if they would just pray the right words 03:15 or in the right way or maybe that God 03:19 isn't gonna answer their prayers 03:20 because they're not worthy enough, 03:21 but if they get the right people praying 03:23 that God would answer their prayers then, 03:26 like there is some kind of, 03:27 you know, system to it or some kind of right way. 03:30 If they can just get the system down, they're good. 03:32 Exactly. 03:33 You just do it the right way at the right time 03:34 with the right people, 03:36 you're gonna get the right answers 03:37 and that's not how it works. 03:40 You know, prayer is, 03:42 prayer is communicating with God 03:43 and I think that God already knows, 03:47 He already knows it's in our heart, 03:48 He already knows what we want. 03:50 You know, delight yourself in the Lord 03:51 and He will give you the desires of your heart. 03:52 He knows those desires. 03:54 What prayer does is change us. 03:57 It connects us with God. 03:59 It helps us to clarify what we really wanting 04:02 and gives us that opportunity 04:04 and this kind of like back and forth and just-- 04:07 I mean, have you ever prayed for something 04:08 that you're really passionate about 04:09 and the more you pray and agonize over it, 04:12 just a deeper your connection with God grows. 04:15 Do you think that God does it intentionally? 04:18 I think that God invites us to pray 04:20 because He knows what it does in us 04:22 and because He knows 04:24 how it's going to connect us with Him, 04:25 and the way that it changes us. 04:28 When I was a little girl, just before Christmas one year, 04:32 there was a doll that I had seen 04:34 advertised in a catalog that I wanted. 04:37 And I let it be known to the people who mattered 04:41 that I really, really wanted this doll. 04:44 Was it on your prayer list too? 04:46 I'm sure I prayed for it. I'm sure I prayed for it. 04:49 So my mother just totally ignored me 04:53 like it was as if she hadn't heard 04:56 and I kept asking and I kept asking, 04:59 eventually I stopped asking 05:00 because I figured it wasn't going to be under the tree. 05:03 And you know what? 05:04 It was under the tree. It was under the tree. 05:07 And she said to me afterwards, 05:08 "I just wanted to see how much you really wanted it. 05:11 Did you really want it?" 05:13 And do you think God does it with us? 05:16 You know, I'm not sure if God is testing 05:19 to see how much we want it, 05:20 but I do believe that when we're praying 05:22 God is answering already. 05:24 You know, I prayed for my mom for 14 years 05:28 that she would really come to relationship with God. 05:30 You know, after I joined the Adventist church. 05:33 I mean, I've been a Christian since I was little girl, 05:34 but once I joined the Adventist church, 05:36 I started really praying for my mother. 05:38 And after 14 years 05:39 she came to an evangelistic series at our church 05:41 that I was helping to lead and organize. 05:44 And on the first night of the first appeal, 05:47 my mom came forward and afterwards I'm in the back 05:50 going through all the cards, the commitment cards 05:52 and I get to my mom's and it was just, 05:54 you know-- In a heart prayer 05:57 but I've been praying for 14 years. 05:59 And when I shared the story, I asked the question, 06:01 did God wait 14 years and say, 06:03 you know, I'm not doing anything today. 06:05 I think I'll answer, she needs question today 06:07 in a plethora of prayer from the prayer box 06:10 and I'll answer that today. 06:12 It's Tammy's turn today. Right. 06:13 And I don't think that's how it works. 06:15 I believe that God was answering every moment 06:19 since I even before I began praying 06:22 because God wanted my mom's heart too. 06:24 And so He was answering all along and looking back. 06:29 I could see the ways that God had led. 06:31 Have led her to even being willing to come to the church, 06:35 being willing to come to this, you know, 06:36 just the way that people have loved her. 06:37 You know, my youngest brother 06:39 being killed by a drunk driver when he was 18 06:41 and church members had just loved 06:43 my parents through that. 06:45 You know, the ministry of pot of veggie meatballs 06:49 or a casserole of mac and cheese. 06:51 You know, just bringing food 06:53 coming and praying with my family. 06:54 Just loving them. 06:56 Just loving them and I can see 06:57 how all along the way God was answering 07:00 but there were lot of times 07:01 where I was praying and wondering, 07:02 you know, especially 07:04 as I prayed for my kids sometimes, 07:05 wondering, God, are you answering? 07:07 Are you there? 07:08 Is there any point to really praying? 07:11 You know, Tammy, one of our other guests mentioned that 07:14 they think God answers incrementally 07:18 and I like that because, 07:19 yes, He answers the moment we start praying. 07:23 But sometimes it moves very slowly. 07:26 It moves forward in very small increments 07:29 but it doesn't mean He is not working. 07:31 When I think we're looking for the end goal. 07:33 We're looking for the answer 07:35 and if we would just stop and look, 07:38 we could see God leading all along. 07:40 You know, we could see the little ways 07:42 that He is leading. 07:43 And that's what I watch 07:44 and just enjoying in watching with my boys 07:47 or just as I pray for it and I calm boys 07:49 and they're dipping now-- 07:51 They'll always be your boys. Yeah. 07:54 But as I pray for them and just, you know, 07:58 there have been times where I've been just like God, 08:00 are you ever going to answer. 08:02 I've been praying these prayers for them since they were born 08:05 that they would just know you 08:07 as intimately as a human being can know God. 08:10 And are you ever gonna answer? 08:13 Those prayers are my boys ever going to where I walk 08:15 so passionately with You the way that I hoped. 08:18 And there have been times that I wondered 08:20 and wanted to almost give up on praying. 08:23 You know, like, you know, I'm not even going to pray anymore 08:25 because you're just not like, 08:26 like no longer asking for that doll for Christmas 08:29 because you're wondering does anybody even really care 08:31 about this besides me, 08:33 but God is a relentless God. 08:35 He doesn't forget our prayers and He is answering 08:39 and I've seen that. 08:40 You know, when I was writing 08:41 Praying Like Crazy For Your Kids, 08:43 I had given the proposal anybody knows how books write, 08:48 you give three chapters and an outline to the publisher 08:50 and they like yeah, let's have this, 08:51 when can we have it by. 08:53 And I said, "Oh, I'll have it done by the end of November." 08:55 And it got to me the Sunday before Thanksgiving 08:58 and I hadn't written a single another word 09:01 other than those first three chapters. 09:03 And I know the book is due now in about a week and half 09:05 and Thanksgiving is coming. 09:07 And my oldest son is coming home for Thanksgiving. 09:09 And I want time to spend with him, 09:11 I don't want to have to be writing, you know, 09:13 honest but that I promised it 09:15 and I'm a person who very goal oriented 09:18 and I'm gonna keep to my goal, you know, 09:19 and so Sunday morning before Thanksgiving, 09:23 I got up and I just prayed and I sat down on my computer 09:26 and I said, Lord, if you want this book, 09:28 you're going to have to write it because I had just hit 09:31 a blog where it felt like God wasn't answering. 09:34 And God wasn't responding in the lives of my sons, 09:36 and I just didn't know how to write a book 09:39 about praying for your kids 09:41 if I wasn't so sure that God was even answering. 09:44 That's powerful. 09:45 Isn't that and you see, this is one of the things, 09:47 this is like those stones in the middle of the river 09:50 let the water comes over. 09:51 We don't always know the back-story. 09:54 You know, so we read the book but we don't know sometimes-- 09:58 And you think, oh, she is just someone 10:00 who prays for her kids three times, 10:01 she never doubts. 10:03 And she's got it all together. She's perfect. 10:04 I had someone come up to me 10:06 one time at a church in my community 10:07 that I speak in all the time, 10:09 every year I speak there. 10:10 And I was sharing some of these struggles when I talked 10:12 about Praying Like Crazy For Your Kids and she said, "No, 10:14 I just thought, you were this woman 10:16 of incredible faith all the time, 10:18 and I'm just stunned that you don't always have 10:21 that kind of faith but I'm relieved... 10:25 to know that you struggled with it too." 10:27 Well, I think it gives, it helps give people hope. 10:29 Yeah. 10:30 You know, that, well, if she can have those struggles, 10:34 yet she still continues and perseveres and look 10:36 what God's doing in her and through her, 10:39 maybe I can too. 10:40 And God doesn't give up and He is relentless 10:43 and He blesses anyway, 10:45 so I started writing this book on Sunday morning praying God 10:48 and I have to admit that I have this relationship 10:51 with God where, you know, 10:52 nobody had taught how to pray, 10:54 I think go to church when I was little girl, 10:55 even though I was committed to Him, 10:56 you know. 10:59 I just talked to Him like He is my friend. 11:01 And so I said, Lord, 11:02 I need You to help me finish this book 11:04 and I really need to get it done before Thanksgiving 11:06 because my son is coming home and I want time with my son, 11:08 so can we get this book done. 11:10 And I've never written a book that fast. 11:13 Tuesday at lunch time the book was finished. 11:14 How many days? 11:16 Two and half days. Wow. 11:17 Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday morning. 11:18 That has to be some kind of a record. 11:20 It was for me, I don't know about anybody else, 11:22 but I've never written a book 11:23 and it was an amazing experience with God 11:25 because I get to a chapter and I'd say, 11:27 I don't know how to write this, 11:28 I don't know where to begin, I had my outline. 11:30 Lord, please show me. 11:32 And He bring stories and He bring memories 11:33 and it was an encouragement for me 11:35 to remember how God has led 11:37 and how He has answered prayers for my kids 11:39 and how they have grown. 11:41 And so it was done at lunchtime and I'm like, 11:43 well, that was faster than I needed. 11:46 And so I sat down and read it to say, 11:48 well, it's probably going to be mediocre, 11:50 I'm probably not going to like this when I'm done. 11:52 And so I sat down and read at Tuesday afternoon 11:54 and I said, well, that was good. 11:56 God, you really came through, 11:58 and I send it off to the publisher 12:00 and prepare Thanksgiving dinner. 12:01 And on Friday after Thanksgiving, 12:03 I got to spend the day with just my son. 12:05 I didn't have to share it with anybody else. 12:07 And we went out, you know, my heart was breaking for him, 12:10 he'd gone through so much trauma in the last year 12:12 losing one of his very best friends in an accident, 12:15 so went into depression. 12:16 You write it about that in the book. 12:18 Cause him to question God and so here we are in 12:23 and he's just been in some dark places 12:25 and I hadn't seen him smiling in a year. 12:28 And he was beginning to smile again. 12:29 And he has a smile that just, 12:31 even thinking about it now just melts my heart, 12:33 you know, and we started walking around 12:35 and we were hanging out and we were talking 12:37 and I took him to one of my favorite places 12:40 Olive Gardens back in Pennsylvania, 12:41 and we-- it was so crowded that day, 12:44 there was no place to sit, so we just walked and talked. 12:47 And Joshua said to me, 12:49 "Mom, I'm really worried about my faith. 12:51 I feel like I'm losing my hold on God and I don't want to. 12:54 I don't want to lose my connection with God. 12:56 And I'm concerned about my friends. 12:57 Mom, can you pray." 12:59 And so able to pray with him 13:00 and before he went home that weekend, 13:02 my husband and I just gathering around him and, 13:04 you know, he is 6'3'' and we are not, 13:07 and just laying our hands on him 13:09 and praying for him and he is weeping 13:11 because he doesn't want to lose his connection with God. 13:13 And two weeks later he send me an email saying, 13:16 "Mom, don't worry about me and God. 13:17 God has His hold on me and He will not let me go. 13:20 Oh, wow. 13:21 You know, just amazing and you know, 13:23 he stays in contact with me, 13:24 he doesn't live nearby and just, 13:26 I remember one time he wrote to me, he said, 13:28 "Mom, even in some of the darkest places in my life, 13:31 I could see God there. 13:32 God was right there. 13:34 Maybe were some Christians would think that God wasn't. 13:37 But God never left me." 13:39 And that's what motivates me to keep on praying 13:42 'cause all the time 13:44 I thought that God wasn't doing anything 13:46 but He was, He was calling my son, 13:48 He was drawing my son deeper. 13:49 And that's important having a relationship with your son 13:53 for him to come to you and be able to say, 13:56 I felt like I'm losing my grip, 13:58 my relationship with God and then knowing 14:00 because of what has happened in your house 14:03 that he has a mom that prays. 14:06 Yeah, I love that my kids call me and say, 14:09 mom, I have this friend who is struggling, 14:10 can you pray? 14:12 Mom I have this going on in my life, 14:13 would you pray? 14:15 You know, my one son 14:16 is serving in the military in Cuba right now 14:19 and for me to say, I'm really praying for you, 14:21 I know this is really hard right now. 14:23 And for him to say, "I really appreciate that so much." 14:27 And even my husband, you know, just for him to be able to say, 14:30 "I just so appreciate having a praying wife, 14:33 know that you always got my back 14:34 that you're always praying." 14:35 And one time my oldest son, you know, said, 14:37 "Mom, I need you to pray for my son Beth. 14:40 I'm praying for, I need you to pray for my friend 14:43 and I'm praying for my friend, I really need to talk to him, 14:45 it's going to be a hard conversation 14:47 because of what they are doing 14:48 and I just really feel like I need to talk to him about it. 14:51 Tell me about this fasting thing that you do." 14:53 Wow. 14:55 Can you teach fasting to me 14:56 and we've never had a conversation about fasting 14:59 and prayer in our home 15:01 but it's something that they've seen me do. 15:02 And so an example that a parent lives out. 15:06 Speaks louder than words. It does. 15:08 And your kids are watching. Absolutely. 15:11 They are watching by your example. 15:12 They are watching you study. They are watching you pray. 15:14 They are watching 15:15 the connection you have with God 15:16 and how you live that out in your life. 15:18 Right. Right. 15:20 Speaks a lot more to them probably than any preaching 15:22 that you can probably do. 15:24 More effective for sure. 15:27 We're gonna take a moment, so you can find out 15:30 how to get hold of Tamyra's books 15:33 Praying Like Crazy For Your Kids 15:35 and 'Praying Like Crazy For Your Husband. 15:38 And if you have read any of other-- 15:40 Tamyra's other books, 15:41 you gonna want to get these two. 15:44 What I love about her writing is it's practical, 15:46 it's hands-on and it's inspiring. 15:49 So don't go away, watch this and we'll be right back. 15:53 Thank you. 15:55 True prayer is not out of repetition. 15:58 God knows all about our family situations 16:00 and wants us to partner with him 16:02 in shaping the lives of our children, 16:04 not just for today but also for eternity. 16:07 In Praying Like Crazy For Your Kids, 16:10 Tamyra Horst gives encouragement 16:12 on how to pray for your children at any age. 16:15 As wives, we know our husbands better than anyone else 16:19 and we can pray for them in ways that no one else can 16:22 in Praying Like Crazy For Your Husband, 16:25 Tamyra says, 16:26 it may be 16:27 one of the biggest responsibilities 16:29 we have in marriage to stand beside our husbands 16:32 and to fight for them in prayer. 16:34 To get your copy of these books, 16:37 call 1-800-765-6955. 16:41 Stop by your local Adventist book center 16:44 or you can order online today at www.adventistbookcenter.com. 16:55 Welcome back. 16:56 We're busy visiting with Tamyra Horst, 16:58 author of Praying Like Crazy For Your Kids 17:00 and Praying Like Crazy For Your Husband. 17:03 Tamyra, let's take a few minutes 17:04 to look a little bit more 17:06 at Praying Like Crazy For Your Husband. 17:11 Why did you feel a call to pray for your husband? 17:16 It sounds like a wonderful thing, 17:18 but tell us a little bit about that 17:20 'cause that was a journey for you, wasn't it? 17:22 It was. 17:24 I've been Praying Like Crazy For Your Kids 17:25 and that came out of the passion 17:28 of my mother's heart, 17:30 just I probably haven't prayed for anything or anybody 17:33 like I prayed for my kids. 17:35 And then I was at a conference with you and you said, 17:39 Tamyra, would you consider 17:40 writing Praying Like Crazy For Your Husband. 17:42 And my first thought was, no, 17:43 I'm not going to be that crazy praying idea. 17:46 I'm just not going to go there, 17:48 I'm not going to write million bucks-- 17:49 You didn't want a whole series. 17:50 I didn't want a whole series. 17:52 And I actually didn't want a book 17:53 that will be just like 17:54 Praying Like Crazy For Your Kids. 17:56 If I was going to do it, it had to be different. 17:58 There had to something different about praying 18:00 for your husband than praying for your kids. 18:03 And so, I promised you that I'll pray about it 18:06 which is always dangerous to pray. 18:08 It is very dangerous. 18:09 Always dangerous because God is going to say, 18:11 really, you don't think you want to do that. 18:13 Let see about that. 18:15 And so, I went back to my hotel room 18:16 because we were away at a conference 18:18 and I just said, Lord, if I want to do this, 18:20 I want it to be different. 18:21 And it can't be like the other book. 18:24 And I don't know that I want to. 18:26 And so, that night I just prayed 18:27 and I just wrote down thoughts as they came to my mind, 18:29 and by morning 18:31 I knew that I was going to have 18:32 to write this book. 18:33 And so I began writing 18:35 and God convicted me a little bit. 18:39 I realized that I had been 18:40 praying passionately for my kids. 18:42 I had fasted and prayed for my kids. 18:45 I had never once fasted for my husband. 18:47 I'd been praying for my husband and I do, 18:50 I really do pray for my husband for everything and anything, 18:53 but too many of my prayers are more like, 18:56 God, can you fix him. 18:58 God, look at this, look at-- could you take care of this. 19:02 You know, do you think we tend to do that? 19:05 I think my wife prays those prayers. 19:06 I think so. 19:08 I don't think that's an uncommon thing, Tammy. 19:11 I just-- I didn't recognized 19:14 my responsibility to pray for him, 19:18 his connection with God. 19:20 I mean, I was praying for him, 19:21 but too often, it just still faltered back to this, 19:24 "God, fix him. 19:26 Look at this problem here, you know. 19:27 Look at how he is treating those or doing that or just..." 19:30 And as I was writing the book, 19:31 I realized that nobody knew my husband like I did. 19:34 Not even his mom, as much as I think I know my kids, 19:37 I knew that the women that will one day 19:38 walk into their lives are going to have a relationship 19:40 with them that I don't. 19:42 And I know my husband's weaknesses. 19:45 I know his strengths, I know his dreams. 19:48 I know how God uses him profoundly. 19:52 And I know his fears. 19:53 And so nobody knows him like I do. 19:56 And I felt like I had... 19:57 I felt like God was saying, 19:59 "You have this responsibility to really pray for him, 20:03 because if you don't--" 20:04 More than just a good idea. 20:06 Right. A responsibility. A responsibility. 20:08 Samuels says to the Israelites, "Far be it to me, 20:11 for me to sin by not praying for the people 20:15 that God put into my care." 20:17 And I thought, 20:19 I have felt responsible to pray for my children. 20:21 You know, as a parent, 20:23 I think it's because they start out totally dependent on you. 20:27 And so you feel so responsible, 20:30 but you don't feel the same responsibility for your spouse 20:32 because you're both adults 20:34 when you walk into this relationship. 20:36 And so God was convicting me 20:38 that I had a responsibility to pray for Tim, 20:41 and not just complain to God about him. 20:44 You know, and to really pray for his hopes and dreams. 20:46 Pray for the things he struggles with. 20:48 Pray for the ways that God is going to use him 20:51 and pray for his relationships. 20:53 And that really, kind of, changed things. 20:55 And not pray that God would make him 20:57 the man that I want him to be. 21:00 'Cause I don't know about you guys, 21:01 but I have a certain way 21:03 that I think would just be just perfect. 21:05 I sometimes do tell God, 21:07 "God this is how I think that it should be." 21:09 My friend Ginny Allen says that-- 21:11 she has this book, 'Ginny's Advice to God'. 21:13 And I think that's probably true of all of us. 21:16 I just know how God can make my husband 21:18 the best person he could be. 21:19 But to really trust God, 21:22 that God has plan for my husband 21:24 and that God's gonna do what He wants to do in his life. 21:29 And that I've got to trust it and just support it in prayer, 21:32 whatever that it is. 21:33 In the book, there's a line from the book you say, 21:37 "For wives, praying for your husband 21:39 is one of the most lovable things that you can do." 21:43 So how is prayer-- 21:45 and you've tapped on it a little bit before, 21:47 but how is prayer 21:48 one of the best demonstrations of love for your spouse? 21:53 Well, you know, prayer is-- that's a really good question. 21:57 Prayer takes time. 22:00 It takes commitment. 22:02 I mean, how many times does someone say, 22:03 "Oh, will you pray for me." 22:05 And you say, "Oh, I'll pray for you." 22:06 And then the next time they see you, they go, 22:07 "Oh, thanks for praying me." 22:09 And you're going, "Did I ever remember 22:10 to pray for that person?" 22:12 You know, so I tell people, people say, 22:16 "Will you pray for me?" 22:18 I tend to go, 22:19 "Can I pray for you right now while we're right here? 22:21 And then I will continue to pray for you 22:23 as God brings you to mind and prompts me." 22:25 Because I don't want to make a promise that 22:27 I'm not going to keep, 22:29 even though it's unintentional that you don't always keep it. 22:32 And so to pray for someone consistently requires time, 22:37 it requires thinking, it requires intentionality. 22:40 It requires really looking at 22:42 how you're going to pray for them. 22:44 So it requires knowing them. 22:46 You know, not just saying, 22:47 God, bless my husband, bless my kids, thank you, amen. 22:51 But to really do spiritual battle, 22:54 you really have to be engaged and involved. 22:57 And even in those moments, and we all know our spouses, 23:00 that there are moments where you may not 23:02 like your spouse very much. 23:04 And you may be really angry or hurt and to be-- 23:09 continued commitment 23:11 that I'm going to continue to pray for him. 23:14 Praying for your husband, 23:15 did you find that when you started doing that 23:18 with the same intent as you were praying for your kids? 23:21 What happened, did things just take off 23:25 and go smooth sailing? 23:27 What happened? What was your journey? 23:30 I think that, you know, making that commitment, 23:33 the enemy, any time you make a commitment 23:35 wants to come in and derail it. 23:36 And so I think then the enemy comes in 23:39 and wants to make you more frustrated with your spouse, 23:41 so you go back to that complaining mode, 23:42 you know, again. 23:44 "Lord, come on now, what about this?" 23:47 And so you have to really fight for it. 23:49 And sometimes prayer really is battle. 23:51 That's, you know, why I add fasting to prayer, 23:53 because it kind of ups the battle a little bit. 23:56 I believe prayer is more than just, 23:58 "Now I lay me down to sleep. 24:00 God bless this day, bless this food, 24:01 bless the hands that prepared it. 24:02 Give us trial and mercies. "Prayer is fighting. 24:06 Everyday we're engaged in battle. 24:08 Everyday we have an enemy who says, 24:09 the Bible tells us, he is out to devour us. 24:12 And do we live it? Do we live like that? 24:14 Do we get up in the morning and say, 24:16 "Today there is an enemy and he wants to take me out. 24:18 He wants to take out my husband. 24:19 He wants to take out my kids and my friends." 24:22 I don't know about you, 24:23 but I didn't think that first thing 24:24 this morning when I got up. 24:26 I was thinking about what I was going to wear, 24:27 and what I was going to say 24:29 and how I'm going to get home today, 24:30 all those kind of things. 24:31 Yet, we're in this battle of great controversy, 24:35 and prayer is how we fight. 24:37 And so you have to keep on fighting. 24:39 And the more you fight, the more you pray, 24:42 I think sometimes the more the enemy 24:43 tries to get in there and prevent that, 24:46 prevent you from seeing that God is working. 24:48 Unfortunately, we are out of time. 24:51 It flew by so fast, 24:52 well, maybe in 30 seconds, 45 seconds, 24:55 look into the camera, speak to the hearts of those 24:57 who are viewing our program today. 24:59 Those who are struggling with praying for their spouse 25:02 or struggling with praying for their kids, 25:04 and their prayers are maybe focused 25:06 on themselves all the time. 25:07 How would you encourage people 25:09 to move beyond themselves and pray for others? 25:12 I would just encourage you to not give up. 25:15 You know, I know that there are moments 25:16 where it feels like nothing is changing. 25:19 But God is working, even when you can't see it, 25:22 even behind the scenes, even in the silence. 25:25 You know, I was just reading the story of Elijah, 25:27 and it was in the quiet, in the quiet still voice, 25:32 in the silence that can be, "can be heard" 25:34 is what the original language sometimes refers to, 25:37 that God is working. 25:39 And so don't give up, keep praying. 25:41 God is working. 25:42 And just start praising Him for being the God who hears, 25:45 being the God who responds, being the God who answers, 25:49 and then just expect, 25:51 expect that God is going to do a miracle. 25:54 Thank you for touching on the praise aspect in that. 25:57 I think that is so important. It is important. 26:00 I think that's one of the most 26:01 effective weapons against the enemy. 26:05 It changes us so much. Yes. It changes our focus. 26:08 It does. Yes. 26:09 Well, Tamyra, we appreciate our conversation today. 26:13 Well, we know is that you're not the crazy praying lady, 26:18 but you do pray like crazy for your husband 26:21 and for your children. 26:22 And we appreciate your transparency 26:24 in sharing your heart. 26:25 We've had a conversation with Tamyra Horst today 26:27 about praying like crazy for your spouse 26:30 and praying like crazy for your children. 26:32 And it's something that we all need to do to be called 26:36 to a deeper prayer life or more intentional prayer life 26:39 and especially praying when we remember the stories 26:43 or the stones of how God has brought us 26:45 out of one situation to another. 26:48 For another episode of Stones of Remembrance, 26:51 I'm Pierre Quinn 26:52 and for my co-host Karen Pearson, 26:53 we thank you for watching. 26:55 And we look forward to talking 26:56 with your favorite author next time. 26:59 Take care. 27:29 Kingdom of the Heart was written by 27:31 best-selling author Trudy Morgan-Cole. 27:33 It tells the greatest story on earth, 27:36 the story of Jesus, 27:38 told as if He had come to live among us today, 27:41 for the very first time. 27:43 Sometimes, after many years of reading the stories of Jesus 27:47 we can lose our sense of appreciation and wonder. 27:51 Kingdom of the Heart paints the age-old story 27:54 in fresh colors 27:56 that will help you to recapture the miracle. 27:58 In turn, it asks, 28:00 "So how would you respond to His invitation to 'follow Me'?" 28:05 Kingdom of the Heart is a women's sharing book 28:07 and quantity pricing is available. 28:10 To get your copy of Kingdom of the Heart, 28:13 call 1-800-765-6955. 28:17 Stop by your local Adventist Book Center 28:20 or order online today at AdventistBookCenter.com. |
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