Hello, I'm Karen
Pearson and I'm here again
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with my co-host
Pierre Quinn. Hi, Pierre.
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Hi, Karen.
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To bring you another episode
of Stones of Remembrance,
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the program where we visit with
one of your favorite authors
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and look at some of
their life experiences
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that helped shape them and the
message found in their books.
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So often as we pass
through life's deep waters
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just as Joshua
did, we can meet some
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unexpected blessings along
the way that will determine
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our future
direction of our lives.
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But before I
introduce you to today's guest,
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I'd like to share something
from the word with you.
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It's found in Hebrews 11:36-39.
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"Some faced jeers and floggings,
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while still others were
chained and put in prison.
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They were stoned,
they were sawn in two,
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and put to death by the sword.
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They went about in
sheepskins and in goatskins,
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destitute and
persecuted and mistreated.
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The world was
not worthy of them.
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They wandered in
deserts and in mountains,
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and in caves and in
holes in the ground.
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These were
commended for their faith."
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These verses are hard to read.
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Aren't they,
Pierre? Those are challenge.
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So hard to read but they're
even harder to love I think.
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But they're powerful
reminder that if we're faithful,
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we will know that it
will have been worth it all
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when we see Jesus.
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I'd like to welcome
you to our program today,
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Dr. Michael Kulakov.
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We're so pleased that
you were able to join us.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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I'm very glad to
be here with you.
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Thank you.
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Michael, you are a professor
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at Adventist
Washington University
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in Maryland, Takoma Park.
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Yes.
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Is there anything
else you could tell us
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briefly about yourself?
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I am blessed to be a part
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of the worldwide Seventh-day
Adventist church family.
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I'm a fourth
generation Adventist.
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My great grandfather was one of
the first Adventist in Russia,
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in Czarist
Russia, pre-revolutionary.
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Oh, my.
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Russia and I have a privilege
to work with young people
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every year at the university
and this last five years,
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I had a very, very
special privilege to work
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on the project of the
translation of the Bible
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into modern Russian language.
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Yes, and we're
going to talk about
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that a little bit later.
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Thank you, Mikhail.
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Mikhail, you're the
only one in this whole series
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that we're having whose
book we're not looking at,
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we're actually looking at a
book that your father co-wrote,
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Though the Heavens Fall.
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And I just, I want to
just say to our audience
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that this book is one
of my very favorite books.
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It is an incredible story
of one family's faithfulness
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to God in the most
awful circumstances,
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the most trying circumstances,
but ultimately it's a story
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about God's
faithfulness and protection
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to the children
that He loves so much.
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Mikhail, your father
was born in Soviet Russia.
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Yes.
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Tell us what was the world like
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that the world he was born into?
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He was born in 1927
in Leningrad at the time
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when Russia was
under atheistic regimes,
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Stalinist regime
and that Christians,
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not just Protestants,
all, people of all faiths
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have been
persecuted and regarded as
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the enemies of the Soviet State.
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Religion was considered
to be the opium of the masses
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as Karl Marx taught
and crutch for the weak,
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and therefore
Christian communities existed
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in so called underground,
and it cost you to be
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a Christian and I
was raised in a family
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where persecution
was central part of life.
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My grandfather was
sentenced to 10 years
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of Stalin's labor
camps for being a pastor
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of a little church
in the Moscow area.
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My great uncle was
sentenced to 25 years
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in Stalin's labor
camps for being the editor
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of a Christian magazine
that he published secretly,
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illegally to at his own risk.
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And my own father as he grew up,
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he witnessed the
life of his parents
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that was very different
from the lives of those
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who embraced the
communist system.
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Yes.
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His mom, my
grandmother had to take my dad
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when he was little
to Siberia to live near
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where the labor camp was
where my grandpa was kept.
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And she told us when
we grew up that she would
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feed the children
with the leftovers
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of what was left in
the homes that she cleaned.
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And she would late at night
boil for herself potato peels
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and eat the potato peels.
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And she was a
very peaceful person,
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very serene person.
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There was kind of strength
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and steel in that serenity.
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But she taught us
that if you rely on God
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and my grandpa
and my dad and my mom,
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you have nothing to fear.
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Amen. Amen. You
have nothing to fear.
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At this time, I know
that millions of Soviet people
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died of hunger, of persecution.
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There were very hard days
in Russia and yet the home
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that you grew up
in was a happy home.
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Yes. Yes. It was a happy home.
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My parents managed
in those circumstances
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to create an
atmosphere of security.
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We had very,
very little as kids.
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And I remember on
the greatest holidays,
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if we could put a little
bit of butter on the bread
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and some sugar or
honey and some nuts,
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that was very, very special.
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Yes. Very, very special.
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So you got to live
out where Paul declares,
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he says in all thing
I've learned to be content
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in whatever condition of life.
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Yes.
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But our life was not
different from the lives
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of millions and
millions of Christians
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and just good
citizens in Russia.
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And it was in many
ways better than the life
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of those who
rejected Christianity
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or who out of fear of
persecution gave up their
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belief so they never
experienced the love of God.
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They had nothing to rely
on in times of difficulty.
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Something that struck me
when I was reading the book.
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Your grandfather in talking
with your father said to him,
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"You need to
realize that you're probably
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going to be arrested."
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That is
probably going to happen.
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And it just, it
struck me so much the way
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that he prepared him.
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And, you know, how do
we do that as parents today
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to make sometimes difficult
aspects of what it means
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to be a Christian, a
reality to our children,
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so that it helps him to be
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better prepared
to face those times.
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Yeah. You know, what
was most precious to us
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and to me
personally in our parents,
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particularly when I was
forced to go to two years
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of military
construction, hard labor camp.
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At the age of 18 is the example
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of our parents not faking it,
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not being Christians out of fear
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or out of a desire
to get some rewards
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but being Christians
because they were Christians.
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Because they loved
people, they loved God.
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You know, my mom in
the middle of the night,
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our home because
our father was a leader
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of the underground church.
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Our home was the
union headquarters.
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It was the union cafeteria.
It was the union guesthouse.
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It was the union office.
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It was everything, so
in the middle of the night
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when brothers would come
for a secret night meeting
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to avoid observation
from the government officials.
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My mom would come into the
rooms and would wake us up,
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quick, quick, quick,
get into our bedroom.
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Quick, I need to prepare
the beds for the brethren.
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You know, the
brethren have come.
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And in the morning she
would wake us up quick,
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help me to cook and
help us to serve everyone
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and then help to clean the rooms
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and we saw that
her heart was in it
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or if we would open the
study where my dad was working
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and would find him
on his knees praying.
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That was a shock, you know,
that it was serious for him.
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It was his whole
life and his dream.
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When he in the middle
of the night, you know,
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use 12 copies of onion
skin papers with carbon,
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laid with carbon copies
and was editing his journal
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for ministries that was called
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in Russian, "stremleniye,"
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you know, a
dream, a desire, a hope.
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And he would put
the light on the floor
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and would do it
very, very quietly
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and he would see
us and he would say
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quick, quick, go to sleep.
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And we'd say, Dad,
what are you doing?
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What are you doing?
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And he would say, I'll
explain to you afterwards.
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So that helped tremendously
in our own challenges,
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in difficulties to
know that we have seen
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the example of
people who clearly stood
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for what they believed.
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They were not, you know,
wishy and washy and they...
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Though the heavens
fall. Yes. They knew it.
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We're going to
take a break right now
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and so it will give
you a chance to find out
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how you can get a copy
of this incredible book,
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Though the Heavens Fall.
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Don't go away,
we'll be right back.
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Thank you.
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It was a dangerous thing
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to be a
Christian in Soviet Russia.
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It was even more
dangerous to be a pastor.
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As a third generation
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Seventh-day
Adventist Christian and pastor,
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Mikhail Kulakov knew that
it was only a matter of time
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before he would
be caught and exiled
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to a Siberian labor
camp in communist Russia
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where millions of people died
from hunger and persecution,
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this gripping
story of faithfulness
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through persecution
shows how God's love
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and watch care covers
and protects His children.
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And now miraculously,
the work of translating
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the Bible into modern
Russia that began in secret
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has recently been completed
by Mikhail's son, Michael.
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To get your copy of
Though the Heavens Fall,
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call 1800-765-6955,
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stop by your local
Adventist book center
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or order online at
www.adventistbookcenter.com.
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We're back speaking
with Michael Kulakov.
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And, Michael, one of the things
that I love about your story
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is really demonstrated in
the whole story of Joshua,
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taking the children of
Israel across the Jordan.
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He said that when
you build the altar,
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when your children come
and ask you, what is that?
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You can tell them, it
will be as a remembrance,
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as a memorial for them.
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And as I look at your
story and the lives of your
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that they build
that were a memorial
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to the goodness of
God and His leading,
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and what an
incredible testimony that is.
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Yes.
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One of the things
that struck me as well
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in your father's marvelous book
is something your mother said.
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Shortly after they were married,
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she said, she
told your father that
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she felt that it was her
calling and her mission in life
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to be a good mother
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and to raise her children
in the fear of the Lord.
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Absolutely. Yeah.
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She would wake up
very early in the morning
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and she would
cook breakfast for us
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and she knew that we
would face persecution,
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ridicule at school and she
would have her prayer with us
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and would read
a scripture to us.
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And I remember one scripture
that she loved very much
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and that she read with a
lot of strength and faith is
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"Do not be deceived,
God will not be mocked."
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And she used to say
that whatever they do to you,
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God is standing next to you.
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And He will not be mocked.
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You will be mocked
but He will not be mocked.
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How amazing. How amazing.
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What can sometimes
happen in Christian families
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or more specifically
in pastoral families
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is that sons and
daughters will see the challenge
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of being the pastoral
family and say, you know, what,
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I don't have anything
to do with the ministry.
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Seeing your father
and your grandfather,
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the men in your
family go through
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their trials for their faith.
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Was there ever a time
in the back of your head
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where you thought,
maybe I don't want to do this.
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How were you able
to develop the resolve
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that you have in your faith now?
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I remember when real
persecution started in my life
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when I was seven time zones
away from my family in 1977
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when I was drafted to
two years of military service
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and despite of my good grades,
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I was sent not to
the functioning unit
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but to the unit for
the scum of the earth
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as they said
with low intelligence,
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mental issues, criminal records
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and they all spoke
the Russian language.
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I did not
recognized, dirty verbs,
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dirty nouns, dirty adjectives.
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And I remember in the
barrack, I was trying to pray
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to formulate a prayer,
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I was in such a state of
shock because I was hoping that,
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that year I would get
a permission to travel
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to England and to embark
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in the study of
theology at new built college.
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And I've learned English
and I prayed to God and I said,
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God, I've done my part.
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Now You do Your part.
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And you know, instead I received
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that little card
that said you're drafted
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to years of military service.
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And when I was on the bus,
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transported to
the military airport,
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I felt like earth gave
away and I was in a free fall
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and I had a
massive lump in my throat.
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I felt that I
was abandoned by God
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and that everything is gone
and all my support knocked off.
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And those were the
trials when as you said,
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I rethought
everything in my life.
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And, you know, the
bullies in the barrack would
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come to me and would say,
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"Why do you need to
stick to your stupid religion."
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You know, not
working on Saturdays,
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not eating pork and not--
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because everything was with
pork and rotten cabbage there,
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so there was
nothing else to eat.
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You know, why are you
going hungry and, you know,
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when you can lead a good
life, you're such a tough guy,
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you're not afraid of these dogs,
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the officers they said to me
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because those
criminal young bullies,
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they had, you
know, despised for,
00:19:04.41\00:19:07.91
they were despising
the officers, you know.
00:19:07.94\00:19:11.28
And they
immediately respected me
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for challenging the
officials, you know, and they--
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you will be under
our protection they said.
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And I said, I don't
need your protection,
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I want God's protection.
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And I thought and
thought and as I was trying to
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formulate prayers, you know,
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dirty words were coming to
my mouth instead of prayers
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because I was so
shocked from that language.
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So profoundly exposed
to that alterative reality
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that was so alien to me in
my home and in my childhood
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where I was so secluded
and sheltered and protected.
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And I realized that I
started asking myself,
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do I really know some people
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who stuck through
everything, you know, win it.
00:20:05.67\00:20:10.57
Yeah. He said it's worth it.
00:20:10.61\00:20:13.61
And, you know, the first
thing that came to my mind
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was my grandpa, you know,
00:20:16.18\00:20:19.01
whose ears I love to touch when
I was a little kid, you know,
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whose hands I
would feel and look.
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You know, he went
through the labor camps
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and through almost being shot.
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And he was such a
serene and courageous person.
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You know, he
listened to Voice of America
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in the morning
and read the Bible
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when he could be
taken away again.
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You know, he
didn't care and he had
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the Pravda and his
Vesti on his table,
00:20:51.28\00:20:55.32
and he would read what
the Soviet authorities said,
00:20:55.35\00:20:59.12
what the
American authority said,
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then he would open God's
word and then he would say to me
00:21:01.59\00:21:04.19
and then I read
what God says, you know.
00:21:04.23\00:21:07.80
And I don't care
what they say, you know.
00:21:07.83\00:21:10.80
And I immediately thought of
my mom, my dad and I thought,
00:21:10.83\00:21:15.97
they stuck with it.
00:21:16.00\00:21:18.27
And, you know, I thought my dad
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is such an educated person.
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He loves the Bible.
00:21:23.35\00:21:25.41
He loves the
greatest world literature.
00:21:25.45\00:21:28.42
He loves the
arts. He loves history.
00:21:28.45\00:21:32.65
He loves the intellectual
heritage of humanity
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and he is not afraid.
00:21:37.79\00:21:39.59
Yes.
00:21:39.63\00:21:40.96
There you go, you
know, that voice said to me.
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And that's where I had to
really stand on my own faith,
00:21:44.73\00:21:50.51
on my own feet
and no longer believe
00:21:50.54\00:21:53.41
with the faiths
of my mom and my dad
00:21:53.44\00:21:56.28
and no longer kind of
be a Christian because
00:21:56.31\00:21:59.68
they were
Christians, that was the time
00:21:59.71\00:22:04.05
when the umbilical cord was cut
00:22:04.09\00:22:07.16
and God gave me a
new lifeline, you know.
00:22:07.19\00:22:11.49
And He said, I'm here with you.
00:22:11.53\00:22:14.40
It kind of
reminds you a little bit
00:22:14.43\00:22:15.76
of a story of Joseph.
00:22:15.80\00:22:17.83
Where on that travel
to Egypt, he has to make
00:22:17.87\00:22:21.00
the determination,
I'm gonna serve God
00:22:21.04\00:22:23.71
for myself and not
for what my father wanted.
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Right.
00:22:27.21\00:22:28.54
Your father,
getting back to your father
00:22:28.58\00:22:30.18
was an intellectual, a
brilliant man, a godly man.
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He is an artist too,
right? Yes. And an artist.
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He also had a dream,
a vision to give a gift
00:22:37.25\00:22:42.02
to the Russian people.
00:22:42.06\00:22:43.39
What was that, Michael?
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To give them God's word
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in the great Russian language
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because in his youth
when he was a teenager,
00:22:53.37\00:22:56.20
he learned German and
then later in labor camps,
00:22:56.24\00:23:00.94
some intellectuals
taught him English.
00:23:00.98\00:23:04.68
And some rabbis
taught him biblical Hebrew
00:23:04.71\00:23:09.62
and he learned biblical Greek.
00:23:09.65\00:23:12.05
And he compared it to
the Synodal translation
00:23:12.09\00:23:15.26
which he loved and revered
00:23:15.29\00:23:17.63
because that was the
only Russian translation
00:23:17.66\00:23:19.79
but he could see
comparing it with
00:23:19.83\00:23:22.23
Martin Luther's translation
and with King James in English
00:23:22.26\00:23:27.80
that that was not an accurate,
always accurate rendition.
00:23:27.84\00:23:31.97
For instance the
place where the Bible says
00:23:32.01\00:23:34.68
and Enoch walked with God.
00:23:34.71\00:23:37.38
You know, the
Russian Synodal translation
00:23:37.41\00:23:39.58
said and Enoch
walked before God because
00:23:39.61\00:23:42.38
the Russian translators were
scared to say walked with God.
00:23:42.42\00:23:47.52
They felt it was
irreverent to say that
00:23:47.56\00:23:51.63
or and he had a
dream that because he read
00:23:51.66\00:23:56.77
the greatest Russian
literature which was permeated
00:23:56.80\00:24:00.97
with Christian ideals and
was helping Russian people
00:24:01.00\00:24:06.51
during the
atheistic time to have access
00:24:06.54\00:24:10.81
to Christian values
00:24:10.85\00:24:14.55
when they were
deprived of the scriptures.
00:24:14.58\00:24:17.62
And his dream was to
give the Russian people
00:24:17.65\00:24:21.52
the Bible as it is in
the language of Pushkin
00:24:21.56\00:24:27.50
and Tolstoy and Dostoevsky.
00:24:27.53\00:24:29.53
Right.
00:24:29.56\00:24:30.90
And he didn't live to see
00:24:30.93\00:24:32.27
the completion of
that work, did he?
00:24:32.30\00:24:33.84
No.
00:24:33.87\00:24:35.20
But this and this
is where your story
00:24:35.24\00:24:36.57
is so compelling, Michael.
00:24:36.60\00:24:38.41
In many ways his
mantle fell on your shoulders.
00:24:38.44\00:24:42.28
Yes, it was and it is a
fearsome responsibility.
00:24:42.31\00:24:47.25
And you picked up the work
00:24:47.28\00:24:48.72
and have you
completed the translation?
00:24:48.75\00:24:51.29
By God's grace with the help
of myriads of God's children
00:24:51.32\00:24:56.76
within our denomination
00:24:56.79\00:24:59.13
outside of the boundaries...
00:24:59.16\00:25:02.16
You know, God showed
to me during this time
00:25:02.20\00:25:04.47
that he has his faithful agents
00:25:04.50\00:25:09.10
in absolutely
unexpected places who came
00:25:09.14\00:25:12.87
with reverence and
said, we want to be of help,
00:25:12.91\00:25:16.01
we want to give our expertise,
00:25:16.04\00:25:19.08
our education to
this God's cause.
00:25:19.11\00:25:23.72
Where can people learn more
about that project, Michael?
00:25:23.75\00:25:27.06
You can go to
www.russianbible.org
00:25:27.09\00:25:32.06
to become friends and supporters
00:25:32.09\00:25:34.73
because even though
the Bible is completing,
00:25:34.76\00:25:37.33
we now have a new challenge.
00:25:37.37\00:25:39.83
While the layout is finished,
00:25:39.87\00:25:42.77
we need to share it
with every Russian home.
00:25:42.80\00:25:47.08
Unfortunately we're out of time.
00:25:47.11\00:25:49.28
Michael, could you
just give us in 30 seconds,
00:25:49.31\00:25:51.55
just look into the
camera to the viewers
00:25:51.58\00:25:53.38
and in 30 seconds tell
them how we can develop
00:25:53.42\00:25:56.72
the courage to
stand up for our faith.
00:25:56.75\00:26:00.82
You are God's
daughter, you are His son.
00:26:00.86\00:26:07.50
He loves you, He
knows where you lay
00:26:07.53\00:26:10.57
your head on the pillow
00:26:10.60\00:26:12.00
and He knows when your
pillow is wet of your tears.
00:26:12.03\00:26:17.34
He knows of your triumphs.
00:26:17.37\00:26:19.11
He believes in you.
00:26:19.14\00:26:21.61
He knows you with
all of your weaknesses.
00:26:21.64\00:26:25.41
And he has a
great dream for you.
00:26:25.45\00:26:29.52
You are His
precious, precious child.
00:26:29.55\00:26:33.36
Michael, we thank you so
much for sharing your story,
00:26:33.39\00:26:35.96
the story of your father,
00:26:35.99\00:26:37.33
the story of
your family with us.
00:26:37.36\00:26:39.53
We've been here another episode
of Stones of Remembrance.
00:26:39.56\00:26:43.16
And I don't know if you
felt the passion of Michael
00:26:43.20\00:26:45.40
but we felt it
here in the studio.
00:26:45.43\00:26:47.40
As a reminder that
when you have those
00:26:47.44\00:26:49.60
challenging moments,
mark them, God will restore
00:26:49.64\00:26:53.54
and He will let you
know that He is there.
00:26:53.58\00:26:55.91
For Karen Pearson
and myself Pierre Quinn,
00:26:55.94\00:26:58.01
we'll see you next time.
00:26:58.05\00:26:59.38
Take care.
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