If a man dies
shall he leave again?
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What does it mean to be absent
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from the body and
present with the Lord?
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Did Jesus go with the thief
to Paradise on Good Friday?
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Did the souls of dead people
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really cry out
from below the altar?
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Pastor Bohr
answers these questions
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and more in the amazing series.
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Shall we bow our
heads for prayer?
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Father in Heaven,
we thank You so much
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for the awesome
privilege of being here today.
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We thank You
Father, for Your Holy Sprit
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and we ask that as we
study the concluding message
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on the State of the
Dead, that Your Holy Sprit
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will guide our
thoughts and soften our hearts
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that we might be
able to hear Your voice.
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I ask Father,
that You will take away
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all preconceived
ideas and you will help us
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to see truth as it is in Jesus.
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And we thank You Father,
for hearing and answering
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our prayer for we ask
it in Jesus name, Amen.
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The title of our
study for today is,
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"Immortality of the Soul
or Resurrection of the Dead."
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And little bit later
on I'm going to explain
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to you reason why
I gave this lecture
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this particular
title, I'd like to begin
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by inviting you to
turn in your Bibles
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with me to Genesis 1:5.
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And as you're looking for
Genesis 1:5 allow me to say
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that the Book of Genesis
makes it very, very clear
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that God
created time and matter.
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God is the
originator of time and matter.
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Now notice Genesis 1:5
where time is spoken of.
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God creating time
with respect to this earth.
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It says there "God
called the light Day,
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and the
darkness he called Night.
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So the evening and the
morning were the first day."
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So you see God made
the day of 24 hours,
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the day that is
composed of the light portion
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which is called day and the dark
portion which is called night.
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God was the creator of time.
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Let's notice another
text in Genesis Chapter 1
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where we are told
that the different time
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measurements
were created by God.
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Genesis 1:14 it says here,
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"Then God said, 'Let
there be lights in the firmament
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of the heavens to
divide the day from the night,
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and let them be
for sings and seasons
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and for days and years.'"
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So you'll notice that God
created the time measurements.
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Days, years, seasons.
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In other words time measurements
were created by God,
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God is the originator of time.
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You're gonna see
why I'm emphasizing
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this so strongly
as we begin our study.
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Now there's another
thing which is very clear
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in the first two
chapters of Genesis
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and that is that
God also was the creator
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of matters--of
matter, material substance.
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Notice Genesis
2:7, were its speaking
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about the origin of man.
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And by the way I
could also verses
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where the creation of tree
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and where the creation
of animals are mentioned.
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Those are the things
composed of material substance
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but I'm only gonna
read about man and woman.
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Genesis 2:7, "And the Lord God
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formed man of the
dust of the ground,
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and breathed into his
nostrils the breath of life,
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and man became a living being."
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So what is man
composed of? Dust.
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Who created man?
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God created man.
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So did God use
matter to create man?
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He most certainly did.
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Notice about the
creation of woman
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in Genesis 2:21,
23, Genesis 2:21, 23.
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It says there, "And the Lord God
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caused a deep
sleep to fall on Adam,
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and he slept, and He
took one of his ribs,
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and closed up the"
notice, "flesh in its place.
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Then the rib which the
Lord God had taken from man
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He made into a woman, and
He brought her to the man.
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And Adam said: 'This
is now bone of my bones
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And flesh of my flesh.
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She shall be called Woman,
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because she was
taken out of Man.'"
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Did Adam and Eve
both have flesh and bones?
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Yes, the Bible tells us
that Adam was made of dust.
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So a very
important aspect of the story
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of creation in Genesis 1
is that God was the creator
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of both time and
material substance.
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Now I want to
read the conclusion
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of the creation
story in Genesis 1:31.
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Genesis 1:31 you see God
not only made time and matter
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but the Bible tells
us that what God made
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was not only good
but was very good.
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Notice Genesis 1:31,
"Then God saw everything
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that He had made,
and indeed it was" what?
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"Very good. So the evening
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and the morning
were the sixth day."
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So let me ask you, is time good?
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Obviously, yes.
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Is matter good?
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Absolutely,
because God created both
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and we're told in the creation
story that what God made
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during the six days of creation
was not only good but very good.
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Time and matter are very good.
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However God had said
that in order for man
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continue living,
in order for time
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not to deteriorate
and degenerate matter
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it was necessary for
man to continue eating
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from the tree that God put
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in the garden--
from the tree of life.
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And we're also told
that man could not eat
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from the tree of the
knowledge of good and evil.
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Let's read first
of all about the tree
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of the knowledge
of good and evil.
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Genesis 2:16,
17. Genesis 2:16, 17,
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"And the Lord God
commanded the man,
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saying, 'Of every tree of
the garden you may freely eat
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but of the tree of the knowledge
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of good and evil
you shall not eat,
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for in the day that you eat
of it you shall surely die.'"
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The sentence was
pronounced the very day
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that Adam and Eve
ate from the tree.
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God said, "The day you eat
of it that day you will die."
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So God placed a condition.
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He said if you
want to continue living
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forever you have
to abstain from eating
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from the tree of
knowledge of good and evil.
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Now the question is did Adam
and Eve eat from the knowledge
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of--tree of
knowledge of good and evil?
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Of course, we all
know that they did.
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Let's read about
it in Genesis 3:6.
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Genesis 3:6 and most
of it is review for us
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but we're setting the stage
for something very important
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that you're gonna
notice in a few moments.
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Genesis 3:6, "So
when the woman saw
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that the tree was good for food,
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that it was
pleasant to the eyes,
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and a tree
desirable to make one wise,
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she took of its fruit and ate.
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She also gave to her
husband with her," and he what?
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"And he ate." Let me ask you
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were they now under
the sentence of death?
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They most certainly were.
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By the way they had to continue
eating from the tree of life.
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In our first lecture
of this series we studied
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about the tree of
life and we notice
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that it wasn't enough
for them to eat just once.
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They had to
continue eating from the tree
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on regular basis because
it was like a battery charger.
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But the Bible tells
us that when they ate
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from the tree of the knowledge
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of good and evil they we bared
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from eating of the tree of life.
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And as a result the matter
which they had degenerated
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deteriorated, got old,
got wrinkled and ultimately
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what happened to it? It died.
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Notice Genesis 2:22-24 on
the importance of partaking
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of the tree of life
in order to continue
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living a full and abundant life.
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It says, "Then
the Lord God said,
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'Behold, the man has
become like one of Us,
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to know good and evil.
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And now, lest
he put out his hand
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and take also of
the tree of life,
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and eat, and live forever.'
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Therefore the
Lord God sent him out
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of the Garden of Eden
to till the ground from
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which he was taken.
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So He drove out the
man, and He placed cherubim
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at the east of
the Garden of Eden,
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and a flaming sword
which turned every way,
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to guard the way
to the tree of life."
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Let me ask you then was
man now going to degenerated
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and deteriorate
until the moment of death
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because he ate
from the forbidden tree
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and he could not eat
from the tree of life?
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Yes, he was gonna degenerated
and he was going to die.
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Would that have
happened if Adam and Eve
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had chosen not to eat
from the tree of knowledge
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good and evil
and if they continued
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eating from the tree of life?
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No. time would not have
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deteriorated matter,
matter would have continually
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have been
regenerated and renewed
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by eating from the tree of life.
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But the Bible tells
us that because of sin
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now time acted
upon matter and as time
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passed matter
deteriorated, wrinkled,
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became sick and ultimately died.
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Notice Romans 5:12
tells us very clearly
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that the reason why death came
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into the world
was because of sin.
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It's not because
time and matter were evil.
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The reason why
is because sin acted
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now upon time and matter
and as result degeneration
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came and ultimately death.
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Romans 5:12 says,
"Therefore, just as through
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one man sin entered the world,
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and death through
sin, and thus death spread
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to all men, because all" what?
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"Because all sinned."
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And of course
in the next chapter
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we find that famous verse
for the wages of sin is what?
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Death. Now there is an
undeniable fact of life
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as we know it in this
world now and that is that with
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the passing of time matter
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deteriorates and begins to ruin.
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In other words as time
passes by the human body
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begins to wrinkle,
the human body gets old,
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the human body
gets sick and ultimately
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the human body what? Dies.
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Let me ask you, was that
the original plan of God?
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Absolutely not.
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The original plan was that man
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should live for
ever and by eating
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from the tree of life matter
would regenerate and rejuvenate
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on a consistent basis
and man will be filled
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with joy and happiness forever.
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That was God's plan.
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But then sin came
into the equation.
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And because of sin--this
is very important--because
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of sin time acts
upon matter and matter
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deteriorates and degenerates.
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Now allow me to talk a
little bit about the believes
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of the Greek
philosophers, philosophers
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such as Socrates and Plato.
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You see the Greek Philosophers
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had no special
revelation from God.
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They did not have the Bible
but they were keen observers
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and they could see that
with the passing of time
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the body
wrinkled, the body got sick,
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the body got old and
the body eventually died.
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And they could
see that time acting
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upon matter
degenerated the material body
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and eventually lead to death.
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They also
observed something else
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and that is that
the body was the source
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of all types of evil
passions as well as virtues.
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You know, they saw
that the body would lead
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to all kind's basest crimes
and the basest immorality.
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And so basically
the Greek philosophers
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concluded that time was
evil and matter was evil.
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And if some how man
could escape the realm of time
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into timelessness and man
could escape the realm of matter
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to realm where there
is no matter--as a result
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you would not have these
conflicting base passions
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and of course time
would not act upon matter
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and man would not get
old and he would not die.
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Allow me to read
you some statements
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from certain Greek philosophers
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so that you can see
the problem that they had,
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the conflict that
they had as they observed
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the behavior of man,
the bodily functions of man.
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You know, most of the sins
are sins of the flesh so called.
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They could see
these sins of the flesh.
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They said, it's
because the body is evil
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and because time
acts upon the body.
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For example, Ovid once
said, "I see the better things,
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and I agree with them,
but I follow the worse."
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Seneca that great
Roman writer said,
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"Men love and hate
their vices at the same time."
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Sounds similar to
what the Apostle Paul
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said in Romans
7:19 where he says,
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"For the good that I
would to do, I do not,
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but the evil which I
would not do that I do."
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And then in Romans
7:20 the Apostle says,
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"Now if I do what I would
not, it is no more I that do it,
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but sin that dwelleth in me."
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So they could
see this controversy,
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this conflict
between virtue and vice.
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And they said,
if we could get out
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of the realm of time and
matter there would no longer
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be any vice because there
would no longer be any body
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and there would
be no longer time.
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So there ideal was to escape
time and to escape matter.
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By the way the
wisdom of Salmon also stated
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"A perishable body
weighs down the soul
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and this earthly tent
burdens the thoughtful mind."
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Now how did the
Greek philosophers
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resolve this problem?
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How did they see man
escaping the realm of time
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and the realm of matter
to be able to enter a realm
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where there is no
time and no matter
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and therefore no death?
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They reached the
conclusion that man
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had within himself an
immortal soul that was timeless
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and that was not linked
in any way with the body.
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In fact they came to
the conclusion that time
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was evil and that the
material body was evil.
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Allow me to read
you some statements
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from great thinkers
who had this concept.
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By the way there was an orphic
jingle back in ancient times
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that went like this "soma-sema."
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By the way that
means in Greek the body
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is a sepulcher,
the body is tomb.
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You know, there was a jingle
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that they constantly used.
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For example, Epictetus,
a great philosopher said
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"I am ashamed to have a body
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I am a poor soul
shackled to a corpse."
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Marcus Aurelius said
this, "Disdain the flesh:
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blood and bones and network,
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a twisted skein of
nerves, veins, arteries."
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Then he says, I
wish I didn't have
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any of these
physical characteristics.
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The great thinker
and philosopher Plato
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said this "No man can be a lover
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of wisdom and a
lover of the body."
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And finally Philo of
Alexandria who was Jew
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but he had contaminated
with the Greek way of thinking
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said "The body is a
prison and a corpse."
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So they believed that
the material body was evil
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and the time was evil.
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And therefore some
how the soul could leave
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the body and enter in its
true existence in the realm
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were there was no time
and there was no matter.
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Therefore, time would not
act upon matter to cause death
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and all of these sins of
the flesh would disappear
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because the guilty
part it was the flesh.
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Now you can
imagine the frustration
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of the Apostle Paul
discussing these things
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with the Greeks
philosophers on Mars Hill.
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Way over there in Greece you
can still visit the Areopagus
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where the Apostle Paul met
with these Greek philosophers.
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Go with me to Acts 17:18.
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Acts 17:18 describes this
encounter of the Apostle Paul
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with philosophers who
were Stoics and Epicureans.
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It says there,
"Then certain Epicurean
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and Stoic
philosophers encountered him.
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And some said, 'What does
this babbler want to say?'
00:20:04.38\00:20:10.96
Others said, 'He
seems to be a proclaimer
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of foreign gods,'
because he preached
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to them Jesus and" what?
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"Jesus and the resurrection."
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There was no doctrine
that would be more absurd
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and ridicules in the
mind of the Greek philosopher
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then the idea of the
resurrection of the body.
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Who would ever
want to keep the body,
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was there a concept.
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In fact notice Acts 17:32.
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Acts 17:32,
when the Apostle Paul
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finishes his
discussion we're told,
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"And when they
heard of the resurrection
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of the dead," what did they do?
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"Some mocked, while others said,
00:20:55.78\00:20:59.41
'We will hear you
again on this matter.'"
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So there was this conflict
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this controversy
in the ancient world.
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There was the Biblical concept,
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the time is good
and matter is good.
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There was that Greek concept,
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the time is evil
and matter is evil.
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The biblical concept is
that time and matter originally
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were created good by God
but as a result of sin time
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degenerates matter
and leads to death.
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The Greek philosophers
not having the Bible,
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not having a clear
concept of sin could not explain
00:21:36.17\00:21:39.60
why time deteriorates matter.
00:21:39.63\00:21:41.98
And therefore they
came up this idea that man
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is inside himself an immortal
soul and that when a person dies
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the soul flies out of
the body into a sphere
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where there is
no time, no space.
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Therefore there is no evil,
there is not this controversy
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between virtues and vices,
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between the sins of
the flesh and holiness.
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This idea is totally
contrary to the biblical idea.
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In fact, if you go
with me to John 1:14.
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John 1:14, you know, you
read this verse to a Greek
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and he would say
"you're totally insane."
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Notice what it says there.
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"And the Word" who has been
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identified as the God.
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"And the Word
was made" was what?
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Flesh, have mercy.
00:22:34.28\00:22:37.28
Flesh you got be kidding me.
00:22:37.31\00:22:39.32
The philosophers would say
00:22:39.35\00:22:40.70
"That God wanted
to become flesh."
00:22:40.73\00:22:42.81
No, you leave the flesh
00:22:42.84\00:22:45.19
and then you go
you become a God.
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But not a God taking
flesh, flesh is evil.
00:22:47.64\00:22:51.57
And coming into time
in the fullness of time
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the Messiah comes and he takes
00:22:55.60\00:22:57.58
fleshly body
absurd they would say.
00:22:57.61\00:23:00.76
So it says, "And the Word
00:23:00.79\00:23:02.07
was made flesh
and dwelt among us,
00:23:02.10\00:23:05.41
and we beheld His glory,
00:23:05.44\00:23:06.75
the glory as of the
only begotten of the Father,
00:23:06.78\00:23:09.66
full of grace and truth."
00:23:09.69\00:23:12.90
And then of course,
you have the description
00:23:12.93\00:23:14.81
of Jesus after the resurrection.
00:23:14.84\00:23:17.14
Notice Luke 24:39. Luke 24:39,
00:23:17.17\00:23:23.69
Jesus says after
the resurrection,
00:23:23.72\00:23:25.85
"Behold My hands and My
feet, that it is I Myself.
00:23:25.88\00:23:32.66
Handle Me and see, for a spirit
00:23:32.69\00:23:36.77
have not flesh and
bones as you see that I have."
00:23:36.80\00:23:44.76
For a Greek philosopher,
that would be absurd.
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You mean, when He
came out of the tomb,
00:23:47.38\00:23:49.14
He actually had a
body of flesh and bones?
00:23:49.17\00:23:52.57
Because their idea
was to escape the body.
00:23:52.60\00:23:57.15
It becomes worse.
00:23:57.18\00:23:59.19
1 John 4:3, 1 John
4:3, would be totally absurd
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to the Greek mind of that time.
00:24:05.07\00:24:08.10
It says, "And every
spirit that does not confess
00:24:08.13\00:24:10.89
that Jesus Christ
has come in the flesh--"
00:24:10.92\00:24:14.14
That Jesus Christ has come how?
00:24:14.17\00:24:16.32
"In the flesh is not of God.
00:24:16.35\00:24:19.13
And this is the
spirit of the Antichrist
00:24:19.16\00:24:21.32
which you have heard was coming
00:24:21.35\00:24:22.90
and is now
already in the world."
00:24:22.93\00:24:25.78
Notice, if you don't believe
00:24:25.81\00:24:27.19
it that the
Christ came in the flesh,
00:24:27.22\00:24:30.17
you're a member of
the Antichrist system,
00:24:30.20\00:24:32.42
is what John is
saying which would be absurd
00:24:32.45\00:24:35.77
to the Greek way of thinking.
00:24:35.80\00:24:38.00
It becomes even worse than that.
00:24:38.03\00:24:40.14
Notice Romans 8:3.
00:24:40.17\00:24:42.73
Romans 8:3, when Jesus came,
00:24:42.76\00:24:45.27
he didn't come in any
old kind of holy flesh,
00:24:45.30\00:24:48.07
we're told there in
Romans 8:3, "For what the law
00:24:48.10\00:24:52.46
could not do in that it
was weak through the flesh,
00:24:52.49\00:24:56.44
God did by sending His own Son
in the likeness of sinful flesh,
00:24:56.47\00:25:03.11
on account of sin,
He condemned sin," How?
00:25:03.14\00:25:07.37
"He condemned sin in the flesh."
00:25:07.40\00:25:12.16
So let me ask you
00:25:12.19\00:25:13.22
in the Biblical
concept, is flesh evil?
00:25:13.25\00:25:16.51
Is matter evil? No.
00:25:16.54\00:25:19.16
Is time evil? No.
00:25:19.19\00:25:22.67
Why then this time act upon
00:25:22.70\00:25:24.88
matter and degenerate
matter, it is because of what?
00:25:24.91\00:25:28.93
Sin. But if somehow
you can get rid of sin,
00:25:28.96\00:25:32.50
you could get rid of
this vicious cycle of time
00:25:32.53\00:25:35.88
acting upon matter
because you could once again
00:25:35.91\00:25:38.64
eat from the tree of life.
00:25:38.67\00:25:41.11
Are you
understanding what I'm saying?
00:25:41.14\00:25:42.48
The hope of the Christian is not
in the immortality of the soul,
00:25:42.51\00:25:45.69
the hope of the Christian
is in the resurrection of dead,
00:25:45.72\00:25:49.20
in receiving a new
body, an immortal body,
00:25:49.23\00:25:52.50
an incorruptible body.
00:25:52.53\00:25:54.14
There still will be time,
there still will be matter,
00:25:54.17\00:25:57.25
but there will no longer be sin.
00:25:57.28\00:26:00.68
That's what the
Greek philosophers
00:26:00.71\00:26:02.13
could not understand.
00:26:02.16\00:26:03.91
In fact, I want you
to notice in Romans 8:23,
00:26:03.94\00:26:08.61
Romans 8:23, the
Apostle Paul speaks about
00:26:08.64\00:26:12.74
the redemption of the body.
00:26:12.77\00:26:15.26
He says "Not only
that but we also have,
00:26:15.29\00:26:19.08
who have the first
fruits of the spirit,
00:26:19.11\00:26:21.11
even we ourselves
grown within ourselves,"
00:26:21.14\00:26:26.35
eagerly waiting for a
soul to depart the body
00:26:26.38\00:26:29.35
and go to a timeless
and matter less existence.
00:26:29.38\00:26:32.22
That's not what it says, right?
00:26:32.25\00:26:34.15
It says, "We're
grown within ourselves
00:26:34.18\00:26:37.09
eagerly waiting for
the adoption" for what?
00:26:37.12\00:26:40.10
"For the
redemption of the body."
00:26:40.13\00:26:45.27
The Greeks would
say redemption of what?
00:26:45.30\00:26:47.71
Of the body?
00:26:47.74\00:26:49.79
That material
substance upon which time
00:26:49.82\00:26:52.25
acts and it degenerates?
00:26:52.28\00:26:54.13
You see they
could not understand,
00:26:54.16\00:26:55.98
they didn't had
all of the Revelation,
00:26:56.01\00:26:59.05
that the problem was
not with time and matter,
00:26:59.08\00:27:01.42
the problem was
with sin that leads time
00:27:01.45\00:27:04.86
to degenerate
matter and having no access
00:27:04.89\00:27:07.36
to the Tree of
Life, matter could not be
00:27:07.39\00:27:09.92
regenerated and renewed.
00:27:09.95\00:27:11.97
Are you
understanding what I'm saying?
00:27:12.00\00:27:13.53
Now is there gonna be matter
00:27:13.56\00:27:15.70
in the new
heavens and the new earth?
00:27:15.73\00:27:17.94
Absolutely. Go with
me to Revelation 22:1, 2.
00:27:17.97\00:27:22.12
Revelation 22:1, 2,
speaking about the holy city,
00:27:22.15\00:27:26.18
it says, "And he
showed me a pure river
00:27:26.21\00:27:27.78
of water of life,
clear as crystal, proceeding
00:27:27.81\00:27:31.11
from the throne of
God and of the Lamb."
00:27:31.14\00:27:33.30
Is there gonna be water there?
00:27:33.33\00:27:34.75
That's what it says.
00:27:34.78\00:27:36.28
"In the middle of its street,
and on either side of the river,
00:27:36.31\00:27:39.27
was the tree of
life," also there are gonna
00:27:39.30\00:27:40.61
be tree there too
"which bore twelve fruits."
00:27:40.64\00:27:43.89
Oh, there's gonna
be fruit there also.
00:27:43.92\00:27:45.98
"Each tree yielding
its fruit every" what?
00:27:46.01\00:27:51.05
So is there gonna be time there?
00:27:51.08\00:27:52.58
Of course, every month.
00:27:52.61\00:27:54.61
"And the leaves of the tree
00:27:54.64\00:27:56.24
were for the
healing of the nations."
00:27:56.27\00:27:59.74
Now let's go to
Isaiah 66:22, 23,
00:27:59.77\00:28:02.97
once again you're
gonna find that there,
00:28:03.00\00:28:04.44
there'll be matter
and there'll be time
00:28:04.47\00:28:08.08
but it will be freed from what?
00:28:08.11\00:28:10.43
It will be freed from sin.
00:28:10.46\00:28:13.15
Notice Isaiah 66:22, 23.
00:28:13.18\00:28:16.84
It says there,
"For as the new heavens
00:28:16.87\00:28:19.88
and the new earth Which
I will make shall remain
00:28:19.91\00:28:23.46
before Me, says the Lord,
00:28:23.49\00:28:25.14
so shall your descendants
and your name remain.
00:28:25.17\00:28:28.61
And it shall come to pass that
from one New Moon to another."
00:28:28.64\00:28:31.54
Are there gonna be months there?
00:28:31.57\00:28:33.35
Of course, there are.
00:28:33.38\00:28:34.46
"From one New Moon to another
00:28:34.49\00:28:35.94
and from one
Sabbath to another."
00:28:35.97\00:28:37.91
Is there gonna to be a
week there? Absolutely.
00:28:37.94\00:28:40.98
"And from Sabbath, from
one Sabbath to another."
00:28:41.01\00:28:44.63
Is there gonna be matter there?
00:28:44.66\00:28:46.19
Notice, "all," what?
00:28:46.22\00:28:48.96
"Flesh shall come to worship
before Me, says the Lord."
00:28:48.99\00:28:54.06
And of course the
bible says that we will eat
00:28:54.09\00:28:55.86
from the tree of life
and our material substance
00:28:55.89\00:28:59.05
will be renewed every time that
we eat from the tree of life.
00:28:59.08\00:29:04.60
Let's read about that moment
of redemption of the body.
00:29:04.63\00:29:07.64
1 Corinthians 15:51-54, listen,
00:29:07.67\00:29:12.94
the great hope
of the Apostle Paul
00:29:12.97\00:29:15.72
was not in
having an immortal soul
00:29:15.75\00:29:18.21
that would fly off
at the moment of death.
00:29:18.24\00:29:20.74
The Apostle Paul debated
with the Greek philosophers.
00:29:20.77\00:29:24.83
He did not agree with the
ideas of the Greek philosophers.
00:29:24.86\00:29:27.89
In fact, the bible
tells us that they mocked,
00:29:27.92\00:29:30.94
they couldn't understand
how the Apostle Paul would say,
00:29:30.97\00:29:33.83
that the hope of the Christian
00:29:33.86\00:29:35.17
was in the
resurrection of the body,
00:29:35.20\00:29:36.92
it was not in an
immortal soul that man
00:29:36.95\00:29:39.86
would have within himself.
00:29:39.89\00:29:41.52
1 Corinthians 15:51,
"Behold, I tell you a mystery,
00:29:41.55\00:29:46.03
We shall not all sleep,
but we shall all be changed
00:29:46.06\00:29:48.98
in a moment in the
twinkling of an eye,
00:29:49.01\00:29:51.27
at the last trumpet.
00:29:51.30\00:29:52.61
For the trumpet will sound,
00:29:52.64\00:29:53.95
and the dead
will be raised" how?
00:29:53.98\00:29:55.82
"Incorruptible and
we shall be changed.
00:29:55.85\00:29:58.50
For this corruptible
must put on incorruption
00:29:58.53\00:30:01.12
and this mortal
must put on immortality.
00:30:01.15\00:30:04.27
So when this corruptible
has put on incorruption,
00:30:04.30\00:30:07.48
and this mortal
has put on immortality,
00:30:07.51\00:30:09.98
then shall be brought to
pass the saying that is written,
00:30:10.01\00:30:12.89
'Death is
swallowed up in victory.'"
00:30:12.92\00:30:16.76
Let's read also
Philippians 3:20, 21
00:30:16.79\00:30:20.71
where we're told
that we are gonna
00:30:20.74\00:30:22.66
have a body similar
to the body of Jesus.
00:30:22.69\00:30:25.40
We're gonna be in the
image and likeness of Jesus.
00:30:25.43\00:30:28.26
Did Jesus have a real
body when He resurrected?
00:30:28.29\00:30:31.02
Did He have flesh
and bones and blood?
00:30:31.05\00:30:33.85
He most certainly did.
00:30:33.88\00:30:35.11
And that we will have
in the earth made new.
00:30:35.14\00:30:38.99
Notice Philippians 3:20, 21,
00:30:39.02\00:30:41.75
"For our
citizenship is in heaven,
00:30:41.78\00:30:44.82
from which we also
eagerly wait for the Savior,
00:30:44.85\00:30:48.85
the Lord Jesus
Christ, who will transform
00:30:48.88\00:30:52.86
our lowly body that it may be
conformed to His glorious body,
00:30:52.89\00:30:59.74
according to the
working by which He is able
00:30:59.77\00:31:02.72
even to subdue all
things to Himself."
00:31:02.75\00:31:07.37
And yet today,
many Christians harbor
00:31:07.40\00:31:11.43
the view of the
Greek philosophers.
00:31:11.46\00:31:15.27
Their hope at least to a degree
00:31:15.30\00:31:19.10
is that if I should
die at the moment of death,
00:31:19.13\00:31:23.39
I have another me
inside of me that is immortal
00:31:23.42\00:31:28.40
that flies out of the
body goes up to heaven
00:31:28.43\00:31:31.97
where Jesus is, that
is if I was righteous
00:31:32.00\00:31:35.32
during my life and I
accept the Jesus Christ
00:31:35.35\00:31:38.11
as my Savior and
that soul lives up
00:31:38.14\00:31:41.13
there independently of the body.
00:31:41.16\00:31:45.48
Where did
Christendom get such a doctrine?
00:31:45.51\00:31:49.35
From nowhere in the bible.
00:31:49.38\00:31:52.07
You will never find in the Bible
the expression immortal spirit,
00:31:52.10\00:31:55.58
you will never
find the expression,
00:31:55.61\00:31:57.02
immortal soul, you will never
find that the soul or the spirit
00:31:57.05\00:32:00.83
can be conscious
after the moment of death,
00:32:00.86\00:32:03.21
it's just assumed
because Greek philosophy
00:32:03.24\00:32:07.11
brought into
the Christian church
00:32:07.14\00:32:09.84
in the early centuries the idea
00:32:09.87\00:32:12.23
that the soul
of man is immortal.
00:32:12.26\00:32:15.02
It came in directly
from Greek philosophy.
00:32:15.05\00:32:20.95
Now let me share with
you some serious implications
00:32:20.98\00:32:25.56
if we believe that
man has an immortal soul.
00:32:25.59\00:32:29.93
And I'm gonna go
through these quickly.
00:32:29.96\00:32:32.10
First of all, if we believe
that man has an immortal soul
00:32:32.13\00:32:37.92
that even God cannot destroy.
00:32:37.95\00:32:41.38
Because they believe
also that if a person
00:32:41.41\00:32:43.67
was wicked
during their lifetime,
00:32:43.70\00:32:45.60
they're gonna burn
forever in the fires of hell.
00:32:45.63\00:32:50.03
So in other words,
they have immortality,
00:32:50.06\00:32:52.18
it's immortality in misery
but it's still immortality.
00:32:52.21\00:32:57.54
First serious implication
of the idea of the immortality
00:32:57.57\00:33:00.97
of the soul is that
it gives the glory to man
00:33:01.00\00:33:05.86
which belongs only to God.
00:33:05.89\00:33:09.52
You see the Bible makes it clear
that only God has immortality.
00:33:09.55\00:33:15.91
You see that immortality of God
00:33:15.94\00:33:17.96
is one of his
incommunicable attributes.
00:33:17.99\00:33:20.42
It belongs only to
Him according to the Bible
00:33:20.45\00:33:24.17
just like His
omissions, His omnipotence,
00:33:24.20\00:33:27.17
His omnipresence, His
immortality belongs to Himself.
00:33:27.20\00:33:30.84
And to give it to
man, steals the glory
00:33:30.87\00:33:34.44
that belongs from God--to God
00:33:34.47\00:33:36.35
and attributes
that glory to man.
00:33:36.38\00:33:39.36
And the bible tells
us in Revelation 14:7
00:33:39.39\00:33:41.90
that in the last
days, a message is going
00:33:41.93\00:33:44.47
to be proclaimed that
says, "Fear God and give glory
00:33:44.50\00:33:48.00
to Him for the hour
of His judgment is come."
00:33:48.03\00:33:52.21
Second serious implication,
the doctrine of the immortality
00:33:52.24\00:33:56.95
of the soul makes God a liar
00:33:56.98\00:33:59.23
and makes the
devil a truth teller.
00:33:59.26\00:34:02.88
You're saying now how's that?
00:34:02.91\00:34:04.85
God told Adam and Eve,
if you eat from this tree,
00:34:04.88\00:34:09.25
you will surely
live forever in misery.
00:34:09.28\00:34:13.25
That's not what he said.
00:34:13.28\00:34:15.33
He said "If you
eat from this tree,
00:34:15.36\00:34:17.92
you will, not only die."
00:34:17.95\00:34:20.56
He says "you will surely die."
00:34:20.59\00:34:23.69
By the way in
the Hebrews it says,
00:34:23.72\00:34:24.75
"You'll die by death."
00:34:24.78\00:34:27.68
I don't know of
any other way of dying.
00:34:27.71\00:34:29.66
But what God is saying is
you can take it to the bank
00:34:29.69\00:34:33.59
if you eat from
this tree, you will die.
00:34:33.62\00:34:35.44
The devil comes and he
says, you will not surely die.
00:34:35.47\00:34:39.55
So who was telling the truth?
00:34:39.58\00:34:41.44
If you have an immortal soul,
the devil was telling the truth.
00:34:41.47\00:34:45.28
If when you die,
you go to the grave
00:34:45.31\00:34:49.14
and then at the
resurrection you go to heaven,
00:34:49.17\00:34:51.93
through life that Jesus
gives you and you go to burn
00:34:51.96\00:34:56.03
like we studied in our
last lecture and eventually,
00:34:56.06\00:34:59.16
are reduced to ashes,
then God is proven true
00:34:59.19\00:35:02.63
because you are not eternal,
00:35:02.66\00:35:04.57
you are not
immortal within yourself.
00:35:04.60\00:35:07.26
So in other words, "This
doctrine makes God a liar
00:35:07.29\00:35:10.02
and it makes the
devil a truth teller."
00:35:10.05\00:35:13.74
Implication number three,
"If man has an immortal soul,
00:35:13.77\00:35:18.32
why would Jesus
have to die to give me
00:35:18.35\00:35:21.32
what I already have?"
00:35:21.35\00:35:24.38
This is a very
serious implication.
00:35:24.41\00:35:27.53
Because if you
have an immortal soul
00:35:27.56\00:35:29.69
why would Jesus have to
come to this earth to die
00:35:29.72\00:35:33.94
to give you immortality
if you already possess it.
00:35:33.97\00:35:37.72
Are you
understanding what I'm saying?
00:35:37.75\00:35:39.60
The doctrine of the
immortality of the soul
00:35:39.63\00:35:42.35
makes the death of Jesus
on the cross unnecessary.
00:35:42.38\00:35:47.60
Further more, the
doctrine of the immortality
00:35:47.63\00:35:51.02
of the soul generally
makes people feel like
00:35:51.05\00:35:55.20
it's not that important
to take care of your body
00:35:55.23\00:35:59.12
because ultimately
your body is just the prison
00:35:59.15\00:36:02.06
for your real self
which is your soul.
00:36:02.09\00:36:05.42
And therefore you have to
take good care of your soul
00:36:05.45\00:36:08.28
and what will you do
with your body doesn't make
00:36:08.31\00:36:10.53
much difference
because ultimately,
00:36:10.56\00:36:12.43
God is gonna give
you a new one anyway.
00:36:12.46\00:36:16.83
That flies in the face of
what the Bible has to say.
00:36:16.86\00:36:19.69
It says you are the
temple of the Holy Spirit
00:36:19.72\00:36:23.38
that your body is the
temple of the Holy Spirit
00:36:23.42\00:36:26.86
and whoever
destroys the body temple God
00:36:26.89\00:36:29.56
will destroy him for God's
temple you are, you are holy
00:36:29.59\00:36:33.40
because you are His temple.
00:36:33.43\00:36:35.32
If therefore
you eat or you drink
00:36:35.35\00:36:37.25
or whatever you
do, do all to what?
00:36:37.28\00:36:40.16
To the glory of God.
00:36:40.19\00:36:42.88
Allow me to read you a
statement from Ellen White.
00:36:42.91\00:36:45.23
This is found in the book
Counsels on Diet and Foods,
00:36:45.26\00:36:48.20
page 73, she says this,
"The body is the only medium
00:36:48.23\00:36:53.90
through which the mind
and the soul are developed
00:36:53.93\00:36:57.15
for the upbuilding of character.
00:36:57.18\00:37:01.34
Hence it is that
the adversary of souls,
00:37:01.37\00:37:05.30
directs his
temptations to the enfeebling
00:37:05.33\00:37:08.05
and degrading of
the physical powers.
00:37:08.08\00:37:11.33
His success here
means the surrender
00:37:11.36\00:37:15.01
to evil of the whole being.
00:37:15.04\00:37:17.29
The tendencies of
our physical nature,
00:37:17.32\00:37:19.72
unless under the
dominion of a higher power,
00:37:19.75\00:37:23.59
will surely
work ruin and death."
00:37:23.62\00:37:29.47
You see the brain
is a physical organ,
00:37:29.50\00:37:32.75
its the organ of the mind
and whatever affects your body,
00:37:32.78\00:37:36.59
whatever affects your
mind, affects your ability
00:37:36.62\00:37:39.32
to communicate with God.
00:37:39.35\00:37:42.32
It's not like your soul can
live independently of your body.
00:37:42.35\00:37:45.68
And therefore, I have to take
care of my spiritual nature.
00:37:45.71\00:37:48.53
I have to take care
of my spirit and my soul.
00:37:48.56\00:37:50.54
My body doesn't make
that much difference.
00:37:50.57\00:37:52.24
The fact is that the
only way that you can develop
00:37:52.27\00:37:54.79
your spiritual nature is
through the medium of the body.
00:37:54.82\00:37:59.00
But the immortality of
the soul gives the idea
00:37:59.03\00:38:01.46
that it's the soul portion
of man that's really important
00:38:01.49\00:38:04.98
that we need to cultivate
and we need to take care of.
00:38:05.01\00:38:08.35
Fifth serious implication,
the doctrine of the immortality
00:38:08.38\00:38:12.69
of the soul puts the hope
of the second coming of Jesus
00:38:12.72\00:38:18.57
on the
backburner, and deemphasize
00:38:18.60\00:38:23.22
the second
coming of Jesus Christ.
00:38:23.25\00:38:25.77
You say why is that?
00:38:25.80\00:38:27.20
Well, folks,
let's just think of it.
00:38:27.23\00:38:31.23
If when I die, my
soul goes through a tunnel
00:38:31.26\00:38:36.44
and comes out
into a state of light
00:38:36.47\00:38:39.11
or I'm in the presence of
God, why would I have to be
00:38:39.14\00:38:43.02
so interested in Jesus
coming back to this earth again?
00:38:43.05\00:38:48.03
You see many Christians
have the hope that you know
00:38:48.06\00:38:50.86
when I die, I'm going to heaven.
00:38:50.89\00:38:52.77
So when you die,
you go to heaven,
00:38:52.80\00:38:54.92
why would the hope
of the resurrection
00:38:54.95\00:38:57.50
and the second coming of
Jesus burn strong in your heart?
00:38:57.53\00:39:03.06
It deemphasizes the
need and the importance
00:39:03.09\00:39:06.38
and the gloriousness
of the second coming
00:39:06.41\00:39:08.82
and of the
resurrection from the dead.
00:39:08.85\00:39:12.46
The last implication
that I want to discuss
00:39:12.49\00:39:15.76
is that the
doctrine of the immortality
00:39:15.79\00:39:18.10
of the soul opens the
door of the church wide
00:39:18.13\00:39:22.39
to the
manifestations of spiritualism.
00:39:22.42\00:39:27.66
In fact, the Book
of Revelation 18:2, 3
00:39:27.69\00:39:30.82
speaking about
falling Christendom
00:39:30.85\00:39:33.10
in the last days
says, that Christendom
00:39:33.13\00:39:35.55
has become the
habitation of devils.
00:39:35.58\00:39:39.17
And evil spirits and they're
speaking about Christendom.
00:39:39.20\00:39:44.64
In other words when you believe
00:39:44.67\00:39:46.01
that the soul
of man is immortal,
00:39:46.04\00:39:48.06
what would keep that
soul that supposed soul
00:39:48.09\00:39:51.52
from coming back to this
world to try and communicate
00:39:51.55\00:39:56.20
with those who are alive?
00:39:56.23\00:39:58.50
Are you with me?
00:39:58.53\00:40:00.31
Now you might not know this but
there was a senator of Wisconsin
00:40:00.34\00:40:06.69
who in 1853, his
name was N.P. Tallmadge.
00:40:06.72\00:40:11.18
He not only was a
senator from Wisconsin,
00:40:11.21\00:40:13.15
he was also governor
of the state for a while.
00:40:13.18\00:40:16.38
He was a spiritualist
and he went and consulted
00:40:16.41\00:40:19.96
a medium and the
medium brought up someone
00:40:19.99\00:40:23.60
by the name of John C. Calhoun
00:40:23.63\00:40:28.36
and so senator
Tallmadge asked him,
00:40:28.39\00:40:30.85
"what is the purpose of all of
these spiritualistic phenomena?"
00:40:30.88\00:40:35.53
Notice what the supposed
spirit of John C. Calhoun said.
00:40:35.56\00:40:40.52
"My friend, often the question
is asked what good can come
00:40:40.55\00:40:45.94
from these manifestations."
00:40:45.97\00:40:47.37
That is from spiritualism.
00:40:47.40\00:40:49.20
"I will respond. It is
to unite mankind in harmony
00:40:49.23\00:40:55.58
and to convince skeptics of
the immortality of the soul."
00:40:55.61\00:41:00.72
Do you notice
those two purports?
00:41:00.75\00:41:02.43
To unite all of humanity in
one and to convince skeptics
00:41:02.46\00:41:08.56
of the immortality of the soul.
00:41:08.59\00:41:11.13
Author Conan Doyle,
the author of the famous
00:41:11.16\00:41:14.56
Sherlock Holmes novels once
said this about spiritualism.
00:41:14.59\00:41:19.37
He said, "I believe that
one of the ultimate results
00:41:19.40\00:41:23.68
of this movement,
that's spiritualism,
00:41:23.71\00:41:26.69
will be to unite
Christianity upon a common basis
00:41:26.72\00:41:32.39
so strong and,
indeed self-sufficient
00:41:32.42\00:41:36.54
that the quibbles
which separate the churches
00:41:36.57\00:41:38.76
today will be seen in
their true light and proportion
00:41:38.79\00:41:42.21
and will be swept
away or disregarded."
00:41:42.24\00:41:49.36
Now I want to read you a
statement by another author
00:41:49.39\00:41:53.58
who wrote
several years after this.
00:41:53.61\00:41:56.64
Her name Ellen White.
00:41:56.67\00:42:00.48
This statement is found
00:42:00.51\00:42:01.54
in the Great
Controversy, pages 588 and 89.
00:42:01.57\00:42:04.31
You know what the
spirits revealing was true.
00:42:04.34\00:42:06.70
It is their intention to
unite all of humanity in common
00:42:06.73\00:42:10.24
and to convince skeptics that
the soul of man is immortal.
00:42:10.27\00:42:14.89
Notice what
Ellen White had to say,
00:42:14.92\00:42:17.11
"The line of distinction
between professed Christians
00:42:17.14\00:42:19.87
and the ungodly is now
hardly distinguishable."
00:42:19.90\00:42:24.05
Is that true? Absolutely.
00:42:24.08\00:42:26.78
"Church members
love what the world loves
00:42:26.81\00:42:30.07
and are ready to join
with them and Satan determines
00:42:30.10\00:42:34.52
to unite them in one
body and thus strengthen
00:42:34.55\00:42:39.23
his cause by sweeping all
into the ranks of spiritualism."
00:42:39.26\00:42:45.45
Then she says,
"Papists, who boast of miracles
00:42:45.48\00:42:50.09
as a certain sign of the
true church will be readily
00:42:50.12\00:42:53.51
deceived by this
wonder-working power,
00:42:53.54\00:42:56.53
and
Protestants, having cast away
00:42:56.56\00:42:59.42
the shield of truth,
will also be deluded.
00:42:59.45\00:43:02.95
Papists,
Protestants, and worldlings,"
00:43:02.98\00:43:07.45
That's another
word for the secular,
00:43:07.48\00:43:10.42
"will alike accept the form
of godliness without the power
00:43:10.45\00:43:15.46
and they will see in
this union a grand movement
00:43:15.49\00:43:21.23
for the conversion of
the world and the ushering
00:43:21.26\00:43:24.43
in of the
long-expected millennium."
00:43:24.46\00:43:30.42
Let me ask you, is this
deception well on its way?
00:43:30.45\00:43:34.35
It most certainly is.
00:43:34.38\00:43:36.17
Allow me to share
with you some of the things
00:43:36.20\00:43:37.83
that have been happening
in the last couple of decades.
00:43:37.86\00:43:42.11
Any of you have ever read
00:43:42.14\00:43:43.61
the book Think and
Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill?
00:43:43.64\00:43:47.63
You know, I once read that
book it has certain principles
00:43:47.66\00:43:50.52
of how you can make
yourself rich real quick.
00:43:50.55\00:43:52.88
You know, and I
thought, wow, this is great,
00:43:52.91\00:43:54.67
all these principles that
it gives and how you can get
00:43:54.70\00:43:56.84
rich and then one
day, I was reading
00:43:56.87\00:43:58.65
an article in LIFE Magazine.
00:43:58.68\00:44:00.75
And in that article, it says
"that book Think and Grow Rich
00:44:00.78\00:44:04.32
was dictated to Napoleon
Hill from the spirit world."
00:44:04.35\00:44:10.38
The same with the book
Jonathan Livingston Seagull
00:44:10.41\00:44:13.84
by Richard Bach, a new ager.
00:44:13.87\00:44:16.54
About the Seagull
trying to reach the heights,
00:44:16.57\00:44:19.25
you know, and I thought
this is a wonderful book
00:44:19.28\00:44:21.53
about the need to
persevere and tell you make it.
00:44:21.56\00:44:26.14
And then one day I was reading
an article in LIFE Magazine
00:44:26.17\00:44:28.87
again and I
discover that Richard Bach
00:44:28.90\00:44:32.50
said that this book
Jonathan Livingston Seagull
00:44:32.53\00:44:37.10
was dictated to him
from the spirit world.
00:44:37.13\00:44:39.14
Then I read it again,
said, "Wow, how couldn't I see
00:44:39.17\00:44:42.04
the spiritualism and the
new age theology in this book."
00:44:42.07\00:44:46.56
Benny Hinn, I hate
to mention the name
00:44:46.59\00:44:50.10
but he's put
himself on the record.
00:44:50.13\00:44:51.89
He claims to communicate
with Kathryn Kuhlman,
00:44:51.92\00:44:56.07
a dead charismatic leader.
00:44:56.10\00:44:59.12
Pat Robertson has
gone on the record
00:44:59.15\00:45:00.97
saying that out
of body experiences
00:45:01.00\00:45:03.21
and near death
experiences are proof that man
00:45:03.24\00:45:06.61
has an immortal soul.
00:45:06.64\00:45:09.11
The tremendous
emphasis on angels coming back,
00:45:09.14\00:45:13.71
you know, departed spirits
00:45:13.74\00:45:15.61
coming back this
world as angels to take care
00:45:15.64\00:45:19.34
of us and to
communicate with us.
00:45:19.37\00:45:20.90
For example, the
program Highway to Heaven.
00:45:20.93\00:45:24.93
How about the
movies, Lord of the Rings,
00:45:24.96\00:45:27.39
Harry Potter, The Sixth Sense?
00:45:27.42\00:45:30.00
I only mentioned some of them.
00:45:30.03\00:45:32.16
How about the
supposed appearances
00:45:32.19\00:45:34.00
all over the world
of the Virgin Mary?
00:45:34.03\00:45:37.53
How about the astrology
sections in book stores?
00:45:37.56\00:45:40.72
They far outshine the sections
on theology and philosophy.
00:45:40.75\00:45:45.73
How about the
programs on televisions
00:45:45.76\00:45:47.78
where psychics live claim
00:45:47.81\00:45:50.39
to communicate
with departed relatives?
00:45:50.42\00:45:53.60
How about new age publications
that are proliferated big time?
00:45:53.63\00:45:59.70
Listen, we not only anticipate
that this is what was gonna
00:45:59.73\00:46:04.39
happen by what Sir
Arthur Conan Doyle said,
00:46:04.42\00:46:08.98
and this supposed
spirit of Calhoun said,
00:46:09.01\00:46:12.81
we can see it
today with our own eyes
00:46:12.84\00:46:15.57
the
manifestation of spiritualism.
00:46:15.60\00:46:17.43
And churches who
believe that the soul of man
00:46:17.46\00:46:19.63
is immortal have left
the doors of the church
00:46:19.66\00:46:22.36
wide open for the spirits
to come in and communicate
00:46:22.39\00:46:26.69
false doctrine such as the idea
00:46:26.72\00:46:28.98
that Sunday is
the true day of rest.
00:46:29.01\00:46:31.10
And believe me, mark
my word, the day is coming
00:46:31.13\00:46:34.30
when the supposed
spirits of the dead,
00:46:34.33\00:46:36.40
supposed I said, are gonna come
00:46:36.44\00:46:39.01
and they're gonna
get you that Sunday
00:46:39.04\00:46:41.13
is the day we're
supposed to keep.
00:46:41.16\00:46:42.57
And if you believe
that the dead can come back
00:46:42.60\00:46:44.88
and talk with the
living, if you believe
00:46:44.91\00:46:46.64
that the soul
of man is immortal,
00:46:46.67\00:46:48.53
you are wide open
to accept that as truth
00:46:48.56\00:46:52.10
when it totally contradicts
what the scripture says.
00:46:52.13\00:46:57.60
Modern Spiritualism
originated in 1848 with
00:46:57.63\00:47:01.73
the Fox Sisters in Rochester--
near Rochester, New York.
00:47:01.76\00:47:05.59
Ellen White around that time
wrote something amazing things.
00:47:05.62\00:47:09.83
You see it was only
something that took place
00:47:09.86\00:47:11.96
there in New
England at that time
00:47:11.99\00:47:13.76
it didn't had not
proliferated worldwide.
00:47:13.79\00:47:15.81
Ellen White saw
that this was going
00:47:15.84\00:47:17.59
to become a worldwide movement.
00:47:17.62\00:47:19.32
Allow me to read you a statement
00:47:19.35\00:47:21.36
that we find in the
book Early Writings, page 88.
00:47:21.39\00:47:24.77
She says this,
"I saw the rapidity
00:47:24.80\00:47:27.78
with which this
delusion was spreading."
00:47:27.81\00:47:29.93
That is spiritualism.
00:47:29.96\00:47:32.07
"A train of cars was shown me,
00:47:32.10\00:47:34.39
going with the
speed of lightning.
00:47:34.42\00:47:36.81
The angel bade
me looked carefully.
00:47:36.84\00:47:39.88
I fixed my eyes upon the train.
00:47:39.91\00:47:42.39
It seemed that the
whole world was on board
00:47:42.42\00:47:47.49
that there could not be
one left." said the angel.
00:47:47.52\00:47:52.20
"They are binding in
bundles ready to burn.
00:47:52.23\00:47:55.67
Then he showed me the
conductor who appeared like
00:47:55.70\00:47:59.57
a stately fair person
whom all the passengers
00:47:59.60\00:48:04.15
looked up to and reverenced.
00:48:04.18\00:48:07.70
I was perplexed,"
Boy, she was perplexed
00:48:07.73\00:48:10.26
what hope is there for us?
00:48:10.29\00:48:12.31
"I was perplexed, and asked
my attending angel who it was.
00:48:12.34\00:48:17.59
He said it is Satan.
00:48:17.62\00:48:20.58
He is the conductor in
the form of an angel of light.
00:48:20.61\00:48:24.45
He has taken the world captive.
00:48:24.48\00:48:27.16
They are given over
to strong delusions,
00:48:27.19\00:48:29.73
to believe a lie
that they may be damned.
00:48:29.76\00:48:33.06
This agent, the next
highest in order to him,
00:48:33.09\00:48:36.54
is the engineer,
and others of his agents
00:48:36.57\00:48:39.78
are employed in different
offices as he may need them,
00:48:39.81\00:48:43.56
and they are all going with
lightning speed to perdition."
00:48:43.59\00:48:49.59
The prophet Isaiah said "If
they tell you go to the wizards
00:48:49.62\00:48:52.35
and to consult the
dead who murder and peep
00:48:52.38\00:48:56.21
shall not God's people
consult their God to the law
00:48:56.24\00:49:00.21
and to the testimony if they
speak not according to this,
00:49:00.24\00:49:02.95
it is because there
is no light in them."
00:49:02.98\00:49:06.50
Further more, Ellen White
00:49:06.53\00:49:07.79
in the book The
Great Controversy
00:49:07.82\00:49:09.20
page 552 describes the
power of Satan to deceive
00:49:09.23\00:49:13.26
through the
medium of spiritualism.
00:49:13.29\00:49:15.86
The idea that the
soul of man is immortal
00:49:15.89\00:49:17.77
and therefore that
soul that supposed soul
00:49:17.80\00:49:20.99
can come back and
communicate with the living.
00:49:21.02\00:49:23.13
Don't you think that
the devil is doing some type
00:49:23.16\00:49:25.72
of a very rough counterfeits?
00:49:25.75\00:49:29.66
Notice what Ellen
White has to say here,
00:49:29.69\00:49:31.72
"He has power to bring
before men the appearance
00:49:31.75\00:49:35.98
of their departed friends."
00:49:36.01\00:49:38.44
Of course, if he can transform
himself into an angel of light
00:49:38.47\00:49:40.80
why couldn't he
transform himself into someone
00:49:40.83\00:49:44.15
that looks like a
departed friend, piece of cake?
00:49:44.18\00:49:48.28
Notice this, he has
power to bring before men
00:49:48.31\00:49:51.49
the appearance of
their departed friends.
00:49:51.52\00:49:53.62
The counterfeit is perfect.
00:49:53.65\00:49:57.77
Do you know what a
perfect counterfeit is?
00:49:57.80\00:49:59.93
It's when the counterfeiters
make a counterfeit $100
00:49:59.96\00:50:03.27
and even the government can't
distinguish it from the genuine.
00:50:03.30\00:50:09.30
She says, "The
counterfeit is perfect,
00:50:09.33\00:50:12.23
the familiar look,
the words, the tone,
00:50:12.26\00:50:17.31
are reproduced with
marvelous distinctness.
00:50:17.34\00:50:21.46
Many are
comforted with the assurance
00:50:21.49\00:50:24.19
that their loved ones are
enjoying the bliss of heaven.
00:50:24.22\00:50:26.85
And without suspicion
of danger, they give ear
00:50:26.88\00:50:30.27
'to seducing spirits,
and doctrines of devils.'
00:50:30.30\00:50:34.92
And then she gives this counsel
in Early Writings, page 87
00:50:34.95\00:50:38.79
about what we are
supposed to do about it.
00:50:38.82\00:50:42.73
She says "I saw
that the saints."
00:50:42.76\00:50:44.88
That's God's people.
00:50:44.91\00:50:45.94
"I saw that the saints must
get a thorough understanding
00:50:45.97\00:50:50.28
of present truth
which they will be obliged
00:50:50.31\00:50:53.78
to maintain from the scriptures.
00:50:53.81\00:50:58.35
They must understand
the state of the dead."
00:50:58.39\00:51:01.15
That's why we're
doing the series because
00:51:01.18\00:51:03.84
Christians use these verses.
00:51:03.87\00:51:05.34
What about the
thief on the cross?
00:51:05.37\00:51:06.89
What about the
rich man and Lazarus?
00:51:06.92\00:51:08.43
What about absent from the body
00:51:08.46\00:51:09.83
and present with the Lord?
00:51:09.86\00:51:10.89
What about the
witch, the witch of Endor?
00:51:10.92\00:51:12.93
What about the
souls under the altar?
00:51:12.96\00:51:14.76
What about the dead
who stand before God?
00:51:14.79\00:51:16.72
What about the undying worm?
00:51:16.75\00:51:18.38
What about the
unquenchable fire?
00:51:18.41\00:51:20.14
They bring up
all of these texts,
00:51:20.17\00:51:21.63
we have to deal with these
texts and we have to teach them
00:51:21.66\00:51:25.72
from a biblical perspective.
00:51:25.75\00:51:28.08
She continues saying
"They must understand
00:51:28.11\00:51:30.48
the state of the dead
for the spirits of devils
00:51:30.51\00:51:32.88
will get appear to them.
00:51:32.91\00:51:35.46
Professing to be
beloved friends and relatives
00:51:35.49\00:51:39.15
who will declare to
them that the Sabbath
00:51:39.18\00:51:41.87
has been changed also
other unscriptural doctrines.
00:51:41.90\00:51:47.49
They will do all in their
power to excite to sympathy
00:51:47.52\00:51:52.16
and will work
miracles before them
00:51:52.19\00:51:55.89
to confirm what they declare."
00:51:55.92\00:52:00.43
That's the devil's
plan but the beauty
00:52:00.46\00:52:03.72
of it is that if you
simply say the living know
00:52:03.75\00:52:08.44
that they will die but
the dead know not anything
00:52:08.47\00:52:13.81
the door to the
devil's spiritualistic
00:52:13.84\00:52:16.81
manifestations
is shut and closed.
00:52:16.84\00:52:21.41
Because that is impossible
that the dead should communicate
00:52:21.44\00:52:24.44
with the living
because the Bible says,
00:52:24.47\00:52:25.83
"That they're unconscious,
they're sleeping until
00:52:25.86\00:52:28.58
the moment of the resurrection."
00:52:28.61\00:52:31.79
Now why did I call
this lecture immortality
00:52:31.82\00:52:34.29
of the soul or
resurrection of the dead?
00:52:34.32\00:52:37.19
Several decades ago
a New Testament scholar
00:52:37.22\00:52:40.02
by the name of Oscar
Coleman wrote a little booklet
00:52:40.05\00:52:45.31
that bore this title, so
I'm plagiarizing the title
00:52:45.34\00:52:50.07
but I'm letting you
know that I'm using it.
00:52:50.10\00:52:52.16
And in this little
booklet, Oscar Coleman shared
00:52:52.19\00:52:56.83
with the scholarly world by
a way highly respected scholar
00:52:56.86\00:53:00.44
in the area of New Testament.
00:53:00.47\00:53:02.72
He wrote this
booklet and in it he shared
00:53:02.75\00:53:06.75
the Adventist view of
the state of the dead.
00:53:06.78\00:53:09.37
He says "the
Adventist view is correct."
00:53:09.40\00:53:11.70
He didn't say the
Adventist view but he said,
00:53:11.73\00:53:13.72
this view of the
state of the dead is correct
00:53:13.75\00:53:16.97
that the dead are
dead, they're sleeping until
00:53:17.00\00:53:20.45
the moment of the resurrection.
00:53:20.48\00:53:22.22
And in his book he
used an illustration.
00:53:22.25\00:53:26.00
He spoke about Socrates.
00:53:26.03\00:53:28.99
Do you know how Socrates died?
00:53:29.02\00:53:31.86
He surrounded himself
00:53:31.89\00:53:33.05
one evening with
all of his disciples.
00:53:33.08\00:53:35.75
And he said to them, "You know,
00:53:35.78\00:53:37.71
I'm now going to
drink this hemlock.
00:53:37.74\00:53:40.21
I'm going to drink
this cup of poison.
00:53:40.24\00:53:43.12
And when I drink
this cup of poison
00:53:43.15\00:53:45.79
I'm going to get
rid of this old body.
00:53:45.82\00:53:50.50
That is subject to
the deterioration of time
00:53:50.53\00:53:54.88
that get sick and gets old
and when the body is laid aside,
00:53:54.91\00:53:59.00
my soul is gonna leave
and going into a timeless fear
00:53:59.03\00:54:03.08
whether is no
matter, whether is no time
00:54:03.11\00:54:06.10
and I'm gonna
enter my real existence."
00:54:06.13\00:54:08.01
He says, "I wish that you
would all be as courageous
00:54:08.04\00:54:12.69
as I am about to be."
00:54:12.72\00:54:16.11
You see for
Socrates death was a friend.
00:54:16.14\00:54:19.83
How different
was the case of Jesus
00:54:19.86\00:54:22.92
according to Oscar Coleman?
00:54:22.95\00:54:25.12
He trembled in the
Garden of Gethsemane,
00:54:25.15\00:54:27.50
"Father, if You can
take away this cup from me.
00:54:27.53\00:54:31.24
Let it be so nevertheless
00:54:31.27\00:54:32.83
not my will be
done but Yours Father.
00:54:32.86\00:54:36.55
Jesus did not want to die."
00:54:36.58\00:54:38.92
The Bible says
that death is an enemy.
00:54:38.95\00:54:41.13
Death is not a friend.
00:54:41.16\00:54:42.73
If you believe that
when you die you go to heaven
00:54:42.76\00:54:44.85
then death would
actually be a friend.
00:54:44.88\00:54:47.48
Some people said the
Apostle Paul he wanted
00:54:47.51\00:54:49.50
to die so he could
be present with the Lord
00:54:49.53\00:54:51.68
then death is not an enemy.
00:54:51.71\00:54:53.99
The Bible says
that the last enemy
00:54:54.02\00:54:55.77
to be destroyed will be what?
00:54:55.80\00:54:57.73
"The last enemy to be
destroyed will be death.
00:54:57.76\00:55:02.09
And so how different
when Jesus surrounded Himself
00:55:02.12\00:55:04.71
with His disciples, He says,
00:55:04.74\00:55:05.90
"I just wish I didn't
have to go through with this.
00:55:05.93\00:55:08.72
I wish this cup
could pass from me."
00:55:08.75\00:55:11.61
And as He hung on the
cross, He says, "My God,
00:55:11.64\00:55:14.51
My God, why hast
Thou forsaken Me?"
00:55:14.54\00:55:19.22
Totally different
then the prospective
00:55:19.25\00:55:21.89
that Socrates had the
night in which he drink
00:55:21.92\00:55:26.11
the hemlock and poisoned himself
supposedly to deliver his soul.
00:55:26.14\00:55:32.41
Now the good news
folks, is that even
00:55:32.44\00:55:36.24
if I should die and
even if I should go to sleep
00:55:36.27\00:55:41.43
the Bible says,
that if the spirit
00:55:41.46\00:55:45.88
that resurrected Jesus
dwells in me that same spirit
00:55:45.91\00:55:50.48
that resurrected
Him from the dead
00:55:50.51\00:55:52.50
will resurrect me
from a dead as well.
00:55:52.53\00:55:55.42
And that is our hope.
00:55:55.45\00:55:57.49
Notice Romans
8:11, our last text.
00:55:57.52\00:56:01.58
Romans 8:11, "But
if the Spirit of Him
00:56:01.61\00:56:06.52
who raised Jesus from
the dead dwells in you,
00:56:06.55\00:56:11.10
He who raised Christ from
the dead will also give life
00:56:11.13\00:56:15.21
to your mortal bodies through
His Spirit who dwells in you."
00:56:15.24\00:56:21.59
So even now though we
live in a body that corrupts,
00:56:21.62\00:56:25.70
a body that gets old,
a body that is subject
00:56:25.73\00:56:29.04
to death the Bible
says "that if the Spirit
00:56:29.07\00:56:31.55
that dwelled in Jesus, dwells in
us we can gain the victory over
00:56:31.58\00:56:36.43
the sins of the flesh
through the Holy Spirit."
00:56:36.46\00:56:39.66
And if we should
die, the Bible says,
00:56:39.69\00:56:42.36
"That our hope is
found in Jesus Christ."
00:56:42.39\00:56:45.80
Jesus said, "I
am the resurrection
00:56:45.83\00:56:48.50
and the life, even
if anyone should die,
00:56:48.53\00:56:52.15
yet shall he," what?
00:56:52.18\00:56:53.76
"Yet shall He live."
00:56:53.79\00:56:55.30
And He doesn't
say, he shall live
00:56:55.33\00:56:56.60
at the moment of death.
00:56:56.63\00:56:57.73
He says, "And I
will raise him up," when?
00:56:57.76\00:57:01.55
"I will raise him
up at the last day."
00:57:01.58\00:57:04.87
Folks, the hope of
the Christian church
00:57:04.90\00:57:07.16
is not in the
immortality of the soul,
00:57:07.19\00:57:09.75
it is in the
resurrection of the dead.
00:57:09.78\00:57:11.78
What a glorious day that will
be when all of God's children
00:57:11.81\00:57:15.33
will come far from the tomb when
Jesus calls never to die again,
00:57:15.36\00:57:20.07
never to suffer again but
to live eternally with Jesus
00:57:20.10\00:57:24.51
in that land where
joy will never end. Amen.
00:57:24.54\00:57:29.14