This is amazing.
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This is amazing.
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The only downside about this is,
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oh, Pastor Ivor Myers,
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but we are so glad
that we can get together
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and continue our
study in the Book of Daniel.
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We've gone through
some incredible challenges
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in the last few months.
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We know that we left
off in Daniel Chapter 7.
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And our viewers are eager
for us to finish this book,
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Daniel 8, Daniel 9, Daniel 10,
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Daniel 11, Daniel 12.
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But we've had a
lot of hindrances
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and we're living
in amazing times.
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Things are
happening in the world today
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that are unprecedented,
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and I think that perhaps
we could look at it this way,
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the delay in getting the
rest of this book finished
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is going to play in God's favor,
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because the prophecies
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that we're going
to be talking about
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are going to be even
more present truth now
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than they could have
been a few months ago.
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We have some amazing insights
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that God is revealing to us
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in these last
chapters of Daniel.
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So we're going to look at that,
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we're going to pick up
in Daniel Chapter 8 today.
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And we're going
to continue through,
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we're going to finish this up,
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we're going to make
sure we finish this up
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through Daniel Chapter 12.
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And I'm glad
that we're all here,
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so to speak, right?
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That's the good news.
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And that we're going to be
able to just ask God to guide us
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and to look at these
verses and these chapters
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with the eyes of heaven,
in the time in which we live.
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So we're going to
begin with a word of prayer.
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Jason, can I ask
you to pray for us
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and then I'm going to
jump right in to our scripture
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here in Daniel Chapter 8.
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All right, let's pray.
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Dear Heavenly
Father, we thank You so much
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for the wonderful opportunity
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that we have to study Your Word.
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And, Lord, we just ask that
You would send Your Holy Spirit
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to lead and guide
us into all truth.
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Help us to retain
what we're studying.
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And please be with
the viewers as well.
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And help them to
learn a lot from this too.
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In Jesus' name we pray, amen.
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Amen.
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All right. Let's
just start with verse 1.
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Yvonne, would you be
willing to just read us verse 1,
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just the first verse,
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no more than that,
just the first verse?
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Sure.
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"In the third year of
the reign of King Belshazzar
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a vision appeared to me,
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to me, Daniel,
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after the one that
appeared to me the first time."
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Okay, so just
pausing right there
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so that we can
kind of recalibrate.
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We left off in Daniel 7.
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Daniel 7 was a vision
that was given to Daniel
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in the first year of Belshazzar.
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Okay, so Daniel 7 was given
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in the first year of Belshazzar,
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now we have Daniel 8
given in the third year.
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Okay, so the first
year and the third year
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now, there's something
significant about that,
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that we just
want to mention here,
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and that is, is that this
vision is given to Daniel,
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both visions,
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when Babylon is still a power
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that is in control of the world.
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Belshazzar is the
grandson of Nebuchadnezzar.
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But in this vision in chapter 8,
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Babylon isn't mentioned.
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We're gonna
start with Medo-Persia
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and then go to
Greece and then go to Rome.
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But Babylon isn't mentioned.
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So we need to think about this.
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God is actually
speaking through Daniel
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so when we read Daniel 8,
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we think, oh, Daniel 8,
that's after Daniel's 5,
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that's after Belshazzar,
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you know, had
that vision of the hand
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that wrote mene,
mene, tekel, upharsin,
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and that's after Babylon fell.
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No, actually it isn't.
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It's after in sequence
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in the book
sequence Daniel 8 is after
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but the vision was
actually given before,
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which is really interesting
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because it kind of enlightens us
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when we think about
Daniel coming into that feast,
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and reading that writing
and making that announcement.
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He'd already had this vision
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and this vision had
already in Daniel's mind
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sealed Babylon's fate.
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He already knew that
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Babylon wasn't
part of the future.
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Does that make sense? Yeah.
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He already knew that.
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It was really
clear to him, right?
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So it's really
important for us to see that
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sometimes when you
read through Danny,
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it's just kind of read through,
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we don't make a connection
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between the actual
timing of some of these visions.
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We're gonna see the same thing
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when we get to Daniel Chapter 9,
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no Chapter 10.
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No, Chapter 9, 10, 9.
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Chapter 9, Chapter 11.
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Yes, same thing.
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It's really important for
us to make the connections
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as to where they are in
the context of experience.
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So, that's the first
point you want to look at.
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Now we want to move
into the second verse.
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Jason, could you
read that for us,
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Daniel 8:2?
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"I saw in the vision,
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and it so happened
while I was looking,
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that I was in
Shushan, the citadel,
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which is in the
province of Elam,
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and I saw in the vision
that I was by the River Ulai."
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River Ulai,
that's it. Ulai, yeah.
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Keep reading for us. Okay.
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"Then I lifted my eyes and saw,
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and there,
standing beside the river,
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was a ram which had two horns,
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and the two horns were high,
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but one was
higher than the other,
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and the higher one came up last.
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I saw the ram pushing westward,
northward, and southward,
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so that no animal
could withstand him,
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nor was there any
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that could
deliver from his hand,
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but he did according to his will
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and became great.
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And as I was considering,
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suddenly a male
goat came from the west,
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across the surface
of the whole earth,
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without touching the ground,
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and the goat had a
notable horn between his eyes.
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Then he came to the
ram that had two horns,
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which I had seen
standing beside the river,
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and ran at him
with furious power.
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And I saw him
confronting the ram,
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he was moved
with rage against him,
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attacked the ram,
and broke his two horns.
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There was no power in
the ram to withstand him,
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but he cast him
down to the ground
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and trampled him,
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and there was no one
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that could deliver
the ram from his hand.
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Therefore the male
goat grew very great,
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but when he became strong,
the large horn was broken,
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and in place of it
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four notable ones came up
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toward the four winds of heaven.
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And out of one of
them came a little horn
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which grew exceedingly great
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toward the
south, toward the east,
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and toward the Glorious Land.
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And it grew up to
the host of heaven,
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and it cast
down some of the host
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and some of the
stars to the ground,
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and trampled them.
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He even exalted himself
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as high as the
Prince of the host,
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and by him the daily
sacrifices were taken away,
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and the place of His
sanctuary was cast down.
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Because of transgression,
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an army was
given over to the horn
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to oppose the daily sacrifices,
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and he cast truth
down to the ground.
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He did all this and prospered.
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Then I heard a
holy one speaking,
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and another holy one
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said to that certain
one who was speaking,
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'How long will the vision be,
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concerning the daily sacrifices
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and the
transgression of desolation,
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the giving of both the sanctuary
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and the host to be
trampled underfoot?'
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And he said to me,
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'For two thousand
three hundred days,
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then the sanctuary
shall be cleansed.'"
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All right. Let's
stop right there.
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So this is basically
the vision right here
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that Daniel has,
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the vision of Daniel 8.
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What's going to
follow now in verses 15,
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all the way through
the end of the chapter
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is an
understanding of the vision.
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The vision is given and
then a man is commanded,
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an angel is commanded,
the messenger is commanded
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to give Daniel
understanding of the vision
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because it's a difficult one.
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And I really love
this because we need help.
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And God is always
willing to give us help.
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Daniel was given direct help,
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right after he
was shown this vision,
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and we can have the
same help from heaven
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whenever we
read the Word of God.
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All we have to do is
pray and ask the Holy Spirit
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to guide our minds,
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and God will actually
bring us understanding.
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And so, Daniel asks
for this understanding,
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and immediately
there's a response.
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But I want us to go back now
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and just take a
look at this vision
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and see what we
can glean from it
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before we go into
the interpretation.
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First of all, in verse 1,
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"He sent it to me
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or in the third year
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of the reign of King Belshazzar,
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a vision appeared unto
me even unto me, Daniel,
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after that
which appeared unto me
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in the first now at the first."
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There's two ways you
can interpret this phrase
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after that,
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it could be after in
time, which is obvious,
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because it's the
third year of Belshazzar
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and the other vision was
the first year of Belshazzar
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or it could be after in-kind.
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Just like the
vision that I saw earlier,
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it was very much like
the vision I saw earlier.
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And we know this is
going to be the case
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because even though
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the early vision was four beasts
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that were different than
the beast in this vision,
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and the one before that
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Nebuchadnezzar had was an image.
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We know that
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this is following the same track
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of repeat and enlarge prophecy,
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because we are actually
told in the interpretation.
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And let's just
jump there for a second,
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we're actually
told who these animals,
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these first two
animals represent.
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Jason, read for us, verses 21
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and, or 20 and 21.
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Okay.
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"The ram which you
saw, having the two horns,
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they are the kings
of Media and Persia.
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And the male goat is
the kingdom of Greece.
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The large horn
that is between its eyes
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is the first king.
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Okay, so going back now,
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you remember in Daniel Chapter 2
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we had Babylon,
Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome.
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In Daniel 7, we had Babylon,
Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome.
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Now we have
Medo-Persia and Greece.
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So we're following
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the same basic track of history,
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Babylon is gone,
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because as we mentioned earlier,
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Daniel was shown
the demise of Babylon,
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which took place
in Daniel Chapter 5.
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Medo-Persia
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then is the first
kingdom that's mentioned,
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then Greece, and then
there's this fourth kingdom
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that's going to follow
that isn't described by name,
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but it's
described by characteristic.
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And we're going to look at
some of those characteristics.
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Because basically
in Daniel Chapter 8,
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you have a very
little time given to Medo,
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kind of, to get our footing.
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And then Greece,
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you know, gives
us more understanding
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where we are.
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And then the rest of the vision
is all about that fourth power.
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I mean, the whole thing is,
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is dedicated to
that fourth power
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and what he does.
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Something really interesting
that we see here, Ivor,
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and I just wanted you to
comment on this a little bit.
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In Daniel 7, we had an
attack on the law of God.
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In Daniel 8, we have an
attack on the sanctuary of God.
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Do you see that in these verses?
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I just think it's significant
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that we're seeing
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a two pronged attack against God
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in Daniel 7 and Daniel 8.
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Yeah, and I will add this here.
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You know, at the
end of this chapter,
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we see that Daniel
doesn't understand the vision.
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And that's very significant,
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because,
remember, in Daniel's mind,
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you have this 70 year prophecy
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that's about to
come to completion.
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Right where the
children of Israel
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have been in captivity
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and God said,
you'll be there 70 years,
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and then I'm
going to bring you back.
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Right? Right.
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And you will be
restored to your city,
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and there's
going to be the temple.
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Well, when Daniel
is seeing this vision.
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And remember from Daniel 2,
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he sees four kingdoms,
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Babylon,
Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome.
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He knows that these kingdoms
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aren't gonna
rise and fall in like,
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you know, five
years, ten years, right?
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There's no way four
kingdoms are going to do that.
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Here in Daniel 8,
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he's seen these
kingdoms of Medo-Persia,
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and then Greece,
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and then something
about the sanctuary.
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And you can imagine in his mind,
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the sanctuary
being cleansed, like,
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so we're talking
about after Greece,
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we're going to be
dealing with the sanctuary, like
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he's thinking that
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sanctuary is going to
be rebuilt pretty soon.
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Right. Right?
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Because the 70
years will end, yeah.
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Yes, 70 years are ending, right?
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And so you can
understand why he's confused,
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because he's
like, wait a minute,
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Greece,
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you know, this other
kingdom is gonna rise,
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and then this little
horn that rises after that,
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and what is going to...
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This must be confusing to him.
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So number one,
this is significant,
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because what we're going to see,
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and I'm going to
mention this here.
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There is something very specific
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about the prophecies of Daniel,
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if you read all
the other prophets
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in the Old Testament,
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Ezekiel, Isaiah, Jeremiah,
all the Minor Prophets,
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Micah, Nahum, Haggai,
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you'll see
something very specific
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with these prophets, right?
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What you're gonna see is that
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God was speaking to the prophet,
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to give the people a message,
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going to Israel
and say unto them,
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say unto
Israel, say unto Israel.
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The Book of
Daniel doesn't do that.
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In fact, in the end
of the Book of Daniel,
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you see God telling
Daniel to seal up the book,
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because it is for
the time of the end.
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Yeah, yeah.
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This is a very
important distinguishing point,
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because listen,
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a lot of these prophecies
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in the Book of
Isaiah and Jeremiah,
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people will
take those prophecies
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and apply them to things
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that are to
happen in the future,
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when they have
already been fulfilled.
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They were speaking to
the people of that time.
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The Book of Daniel
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purposely
catapults us into events
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that are supposed to
happen in the future.
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And this is one of the reasons
why Daniel is so confused
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because he's thinking
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sanctuary should be
rebuilt sometime soon here.
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You know, he's
thinking should be cleansed
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or purified or restored
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sometime soon here,
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but now I'm seeing his
vision about a sanctuary,
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the sanctuary being restored
or purified or cleansed.
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After sometime,
after like these empires,
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he's confused about this.
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Gotcha.
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In fact, he's seen the
sanctuary being cast down
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after the Grecian
power has come and gone.
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He was like,
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well, the
sanctuary isn't even up yet.
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How can it be cast down? Yeah.
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How can it be cast down?
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So sanctuary is
cast down right now.
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Right.
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We're in Babylon,
sanctuary is destroyed.
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So he's looking at this vision,
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and in his mind,
he's thinking of the now.
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Yeah, yep.
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This is crucial to understand.
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He's thinking of the now,
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not realizing that
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God is showing
him things to come
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that are beyond his time.
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Right? Really important.
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And this is where, yeah,
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this is where Daniel
9 is going to come in
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and even amplify
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what's happening
in Daniel Chapter 8.
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But I'll jump back
and share this as well.
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In Daniel 2...
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In Daniel 2,
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we have Babylon,
Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome.
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And this Roman Empire
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divides into 10 kingdoms.
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And these 10
kingdoms has a clay element
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that comes up among them.
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And I think we talked about this
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in one of our last studies
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how the clay is symbolic
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of a professed
people of God, right?
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You are the
potter, we are the clay.
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Here's an element rising
up within the Roman Empire
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that is a religious power
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claiming to have
God as its maker.
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And yet it is
mingling with the iron.
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It is mingling with the world
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in a way that is
not appealing to God,
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that is not pleasing to God.
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And that's why the stone
is cut out with our hands
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destroys the image,
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not on the head, not
on the chest and arms,
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but on the feet of
iron mingled with clay.
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Quick object lesson,
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believers should not
mingle with worldiness.
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Right?
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So that's number one.
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When we get to Daniel
7, we see the same thing.
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But now we have
the fourth beast,
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this beast with iron teeth,
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paralleling the
legs of iron in Daniel 2,
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and it has 10 horns.
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And then a little horn,
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now wants you to
notice that in Daniel 2,
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there's only four kingdoms,
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which means the
toes of iron and the clay
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are really an
extension of the fourth kingdom,
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which is Rome.
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So what God is doing
is using one symbol Rome,
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to apply to two
different powers.
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Pagan Rome,
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and then this religious
power that comes out of Rome.
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It's all the fourth kingdom.
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Right.
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In Daniel 7,
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you have the same thing,
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this little horn
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which parallels
the clay of Daniel 2
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that rises among the 10 toes,
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we have the little horn
rising among the 10 horns.
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But remember this,
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the little horn is on
the head of the fourth beast.
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Right.
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So it's really one power.
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It's part of the fourth.
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It's part of the fourth. Yep.
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Right?
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So when we
identify this little horn
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as rising sometime after Rome,
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and I'm going somewhere
very important with this.
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This little horn rises
sometime after the fall of Rome.
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Right.
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When we get to Daniel 8.
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For a lot of people,
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this little horn
appears to come out of Greece.
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It does not come out of Greece.
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It comes after Greece.
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In fact, the Bible says
00:19:03.41\00:19:04.77
in the latter
end of their kingdom,
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in other words,
00:19:06.41\00:19:07.74
when the Grecian
kingdom is declining,
00:19:07.78\00:19:10.45
is when this
little horn is rising.
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Right.
00:19:12.61\00:19:13.95
Right?
00:19:13.98\00:19:15.32
The little horn
is now one symbol,
00:19:15.35\00:19:20.59
describing two powers.
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We know that Rome
came after Greece.
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But if you look
at the description
00:19:24.86\00:19:26.19
of the little horn,
00:19:26.23\00:19:27.56
it matches the description
of the little horn in Daniel 7.
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Why do we just go
through this whole thing?
00:19:31.57\00:19:34.34
Because it's this little horn
00:19:34.37\00:19:36.47
that rises
after the fall of Rome
00:19:36.50\00:19:39.97
that is
desecrating the sanctuary,
00:19:40.01\00:19:43.81
which leads us to a
very important conclusion.
00:19:43.85\00:19:47.68
Whatever the sanctuary
is, that is being desecrated,
00:19:47.72\00:19:51.59
it cannot be the
literal temple in Jerusalem
00:19:51.62\00:19:56.26
because that temple
was destroyed in 70 AD.
00:19:56.29\00:20:03.23
It was destroyed
in the Roman Empire.
00:20:03.26\00:20:07.20
So if the little
horn rises after Rome,
00:20:07.24\00:20:10.31
whatever
sanctuary it is attacking,
00:20:10.34\00:20:13.24
must be something
that is not yet known
00:20:13.27\00:20:17.25
or understood to
the children of Israel.
00:20:17.28\00:20:20.02
Okay, good point.
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Really good point, Okay,
let's get back into our texts,
00:20:22.42\00:20:25.35
just so that we
can kind of summarize
00:20:25.39\00:20:27.42
a little bit of
what you're saying here.
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I want to get
back into our text.
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We're starting with verse 3,
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where we have ram
00:20:32.53\00:20:34.43
that is pictured
here with two horns
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and the two horns were high,
00:20:38.23\00:20:39.57
but one was
higher than the other,
00:20:39.60\00:20:41.17
and the higher came up last.
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Do you remember this?
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Now as we
correlate this with the bear,
00:20:43.94\00:20:46.24
the bear was higher on one side,
00:20:46.27\00:20:48.91
the Medes and
Persians were connected
00:20:48.94\00:20:51.81
and the Persians
came up after the Medes
00:20:51.85\00:20:55.65
and became
stronger than the Medes,
00:20:55.68\00:20:57.12
but they were one power,
they're connected together.
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That's been
depicted here in this verse,
00:20:59.62\00:21:01.16
just like it was depicted
in the verse in Daniel 7.
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And what's
happening in Daniel 7,
00:21:04.49\00:21:06.06
as Ivor's
bringing out in Daniel 8,
00:21:06.09\00:21:08.46
as Ivor's bringing out is,
00:21:08.50\00:21:09.93
as we move through history,
00:21:09.96\00:21:11.97
there's more information,
there's more details.
00:21:12.00\00:21:14.74
And that's what,
00:21:14.77\00:21:16.10
what's taking place
in Daniel Chapter 8,
00:21:16.14\00:21:17.57
we're getting more details
here that are going to help us
00:21:17.61\00:21:19.94
but it's really important,
00:21:19.97\00:21:22.21
as you pointed out, Ivor,
00:21:22.24\00:21:23.58
that we don't
forget the past details,
00:21:23.61\00:21:25.85
because the new details
add to those past details,
00:21:25.88\00:21:29.28
and give us more
understanding of the prophecy.
00:21:29.32\00:21:31.85
So we know for
example, as Ivor said that
00:21:31.89\00:21:34.22
the little horn is
part of the Roman power,
00:21:34.26\00:21:37.86
and so that
00:21:37.89\00:21:39.23
that power that
desecrates the sanctuary
00:21:39.26\00:21:41.50
that takes place after
Rome falls there at camp,
00:21:41.53\00:21:43.73
therefore, it can't be
00:21:43.77\00:21:45.10
the literal
sanctuary in Jerusalem,
00:21:45.13\00:21:46.47
which was destroyed in AD 70.
00:21:46.50\00:21:48.54
Okay, we also in
the context of they see,
00:21:48.57\00:21:52.24
in verse 4,
00:21:52.27\00:21:54.14
the ram pushing in all
these different directions.
00:21:54.18\00:21:57.28
He's pushing
westward and northward
00:21:57.31\00:21:59.08
and southward, okay?
00:21:59.11\00:22:01.05
So that indicates the
direction he's coming from.
00:22:01.08\00:22:05.02
Okay, he's pushing northward
and westward and southward.
00:22:05.05\00:22:08.69
So what direction was left out?
00:22:08.72\00:22:11.29
East, so he's coming
from the east, right?
00:22:11.33\00:22:13.83
Medo-Persians
came from the east.
00:22:13.86\00:22:15.20
Now, if you go down
here a little further,
00:22:15.23\00:22:17.57
as he's considering the
horn, another horn comes up.
00:22:17.60\00:22:21.47
It says,
00:22:21.50\00:22:22.84
"I was considering,
behold, a goat came,
00:22:22.87\00:22:24.44
excuse me, not
little horn, a goat came up.
00:22:24.47\00:22:26.78
And that wasn't a
horn that was a ram.
00:22:26.81\00:22:28.31
So you got a ram and a goat.
00:22:28.34\00:22:29.68
Verse 5, "The goat
came from the west."
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So this is a
power from the west,
00:22:32.25\00:22:33.58
the other powers
are power from the east,
00:22:33.62\00:22:35.38
these directions
are really important.
00:22:35.42\00:22:37.72
As you go down a little further,
00:22:37.75\00:22:40.02
he destroys Medo- Persia,
00:22:40.06\00:22:41.62
this is, of course, Greece
00:22:41.66\00:22:44.66
and Alexander the Great,
00:22:44.69\00:22:46.09
the notable horn is
Alexander the Great.
00:22:46.13\00:22:48.93
And then it says in verse 8,
00:22:48.96\00:22:50.30
"Therefore the he
goat waxed very great:
00:22:50.33\00:22:52.70
and when he was strong,
the great horn was broken."
00:22:52.73\00:22:54.70
Alexander conquered the
world in a very short time,
00:22:54.74\00:22:57.57
and then he died.
00:22:57.61\00:22:59.37
And as he died,
00:22:59.41\00:23:00.74
his, his complete territory
00:23:00.78\00:23:04.78
was divided
eventually into four parts
00:23:04.81\00:23:07.68
and those four parts
are depicted here, it says,
00:23:07.72\00:23:09.75
"And when he was
strong, the great horn is broken
00:23:09.78\00:23:11.59
and for it came
up four notable ones
00:23:11.62\00:23:13.76
toward the four
winds of heaven."
00:23:13.79\00:23:15.76
So you got four notable ones
for the four winds of heaven,
00:23:15.79\00:23:19.13
north, south, east and west,
00:23:19.16\00:23:20.80
and out of one of them,
00:23:20.83\00:23:22.66
out of those four directions,
00:23:22.70\00:23:24.33
because remember,
we've been talking about
00:23:24.37\00:23:25.70
directions all
the way through here.
00:23:25.73\00:23:27.07
We've been
talking about the east,
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we've been
talking about the south,
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we've talking about the west,
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we've been
talking about the north,
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coming from the
west, coming from the east.
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So keep it
consistent out of one of them,
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that is one of those four winds,
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one of those directions,
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came forth a little horn,
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which waxed exceedingly
great toward the south,
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toward the east,
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and toward the pleasant land,
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which is the west.
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So what
direction is he coming from
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if he's going toward the
south, the east and the west?
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North. He's
coming from the north.
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So this is the
first time in Scripture
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that we have an identification
of the king of the north.
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Yes.
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The king of the north
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is first identified in Daniel 8,
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that will help us
when we get to Daniel 11,
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because in Daniel 11,
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all this directional activity
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and all of this
directional identification
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is going to be amplified.
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And Daniel 11
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is king of the
north, king of the south,
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king of the
north, kind of the south,
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king of the
north, king of the south,
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and people get lost in there.
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But if you start right here,
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you're going to identify
the king of the north as Rome.
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Rome is the first time
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that we see the
king of the north
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identified in it's in Daniel 8,
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because he's
coming to the south,
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he's going to the east,
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he's going to the pleasant land,
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which is west, so
the only direction
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he's coming from is the north.
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And Alexander's kingdom was,
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as it says here in verse 8,
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it was spread out
toward the four winds of heaven
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or the four
corners of the earth,
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the four directions of heaven.
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So now we look at
Rome in its first stages
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and the very
first stage that we have
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is this pushing toward
these different directions.
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Rome continues to
conquer the world,
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including Palestine,
including God's glorious land,
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the pleasant land it's
called here in verse 9.
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"So Rome lands in
Israel, in Judah."
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And then it says in verse 10,
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"It waxed great even
to the host of heaven.
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And it cast some of the
host of the stars to the ground
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and stamped upon them."
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Now what direction
is this power going in?
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Don't answer at
once, Pastor Myers.
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Now this power
is going up, okay?
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Now this power
is going up, right?
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At first he was horizontal,
but now he's going vertical.
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And it's, you know,
we're thinking, well,
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is against heaven really?
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Yes, he's going against heaven.
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So now this is where
we would see a transition
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from pagan Rome, to papal Rome.
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This is where that
transition takes place.
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We've seen that transition
in Daniel Chapter 7, right?
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We've seen that transition
a little bit in Daniel 2,
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with the clay and the iron,
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but now it's going to
be emphasized even more,
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amplified if you will.
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He's going toward heaven.
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He's casting some of the hosts
and the stars to the ground,
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he stampede upon
them, that's persecution.
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Verse 11,
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"He's magnifying himself
to the prince of the host
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taking the daily away,
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and casting down the
place of his sanctuary."
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Now, that can't be
the sanctuary in Jerusalem
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as we've noted,
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because this is
after the transition
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from pagan Rome to papal Rome.
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The sanctuary
that he's casting down,
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at least in intent and purpose
is God's heavenly sanctuary.
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A host is given
him against the daily.
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We're going to
identify what that is
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in our next session by
reason of transgression,
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and it cast the
truth to the ground
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and it practiced and prospered.
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So this is identifying
the power of papal Rome,
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as it
transitions from pagan Rome.
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In verses 9 and 10,
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you've got that
transition taking place there
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and then you've
got a specific attack
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against the heavenly
sanctuary, the heavenly host,
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the prince of the host and
the daily whatever that is.
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And all of this is taking place
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in the context
of Daniel Chapter 8.
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These are the... These
verses are identifying for us
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in symbolic language,
00:27:25.07\00:27:26.41
the attack against
the sanctuary in heaven,
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Daniel Chapter 8.
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So we're running
out of time right now.
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We're gonna come back,
we've really got to dissect.
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We jumped ahead a little
bit, we're going to go back
00:27:32.68\00:27:34.42
and we're going to
go through these verses
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point by point, symbol by symbol
00:27:36.15\00:27:38.49
and really identify,
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really dissect and identify
what's taking place here.
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That sound good? Sounds great.
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It's great.
We're all out of time.
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You know, time flies.
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It does, it really does.
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The time just flies by. Yeah.
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So anyway, we're really thankful
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that you could join us.
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We're looking
forward to continue
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in Daniel Chapter 8.
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So don't go away.
We will be back soon.
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