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James: Did you
say Daniel 11 Part 5?
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Jason: Part 5. James:
Part 5... Yvonne: Oooooh!
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James: See, this is...
this is a long chapter...
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Yvonne: It's meaty.
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James: And there's a
lot here, it's very meaty,
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yeah, good thing we have
our vegetables in Daniel 10.
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Yvonne: That's
right. All: Laughter.
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James: So that we
can get into the meat,
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so, we left off in verse
40, we didn't finish verse 40
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and we're going
to really kind of
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spend a little bit of time here,
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we want to kind of
nuance these verses
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because these verses parallel
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what's taking place
in Revelation chapter 13.
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There's a really good parallel
between Daniel 11 verses 40
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to 12:3... wanted
to reemphasize that,
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12:1, 2 and 3 are really
part of the Daniel 11 vision.
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He doesn't come out of vision,
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Daniel doesn't come out of
vision till verse 4 of Daniel 12
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and then Revelation
13:1 all the way through
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to the end of chapter verse 18,
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these two sections of prophetic
eschatological Scripture
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parallel in so many ways,
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I've got at least a
dozen connections between them
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and we'll look at a few of those
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but first we want to
start with a word of prayer,
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Ivor, would you like
to lead us out in prayer?
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Ivor: Yeah, let's do
that, "Heavenly Father,
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bless us as we continue
to study the book of Daniel
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particularly Daniel 11
verses 40 onward, Lord,
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give us wisdom,
Lord, give us insight
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and, Lord, help us to make
this clear for our Viewers,
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we pray this in
Jesus' name, amen. "
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All: Amen.
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James: So, let's just
go back to verse 40, Jason,
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can we just go back to verse
40 and just read that verse
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and then we'll talk about it.
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Jason: Sure, "At
the time of the end
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the king of the
South shall attack him;
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and the king of the
North shall come against him
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like a whirlwind,
with chariots, horsemen,
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and with many ships;
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and he shall
enter the countries,
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overwhelm them,
and pass through. "
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James: Okay, so,
we have a lot of,
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you know, symbolic
language here to be honest
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because even the South
represents Egypt or Atheism...
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Marxism... Communism...
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whatever we want to call
it right now, Secularism...
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what does the king
of the North represent?
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Well, we've already
identified that power
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in the previous verses because
the same king in verse 40
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that the king of
the South comes against,
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is the one that was
identified in verse 36
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and that's a
key pivotal point...
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the king in verse 36
is obviously the same king
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in verse 40...
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the question is, who
is the king in verse 36...
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we go to 2nd Thessalonians
chapter 2:3 and 4...
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we do some, you know, comparing
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and we see that this is
none other than the Antichrist
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or this false religious
system that has risen up
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in the seat of pagan
Rome or the Papal Roman System
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and then we look at
all the verses following...
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we see... it meets
all those characteristics
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and we looked at some of that
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so, what it's saying
here is that in 1798...
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the time of the end,
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this Atheistic power would
rise up in the country of France
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and would wound...
would inflict... would gore...
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the word "push" means to gore...
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war against the
king of the North
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but then it says there's going
to be a turnaround in conflict,
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that the king of the North
is going to come against him
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like a whirlwind with
chariots and with horsemen
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and with many ships and
enter into the countries
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and overflow and pass over
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and you don't
have to go very far
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to see the application of
this history in our world today.
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I was raised in the
umbrella of Communism...
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I was born in '62
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when the conflict between
the United States and USSR
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was at an intense level,
Kennedy was President, you know,
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in those... in those early years
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and the Cuba Mission Crisis...
Missile Crisis had taken place
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and I remember as a teenager
I was always thinking...
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it could happen any time,
it could happen any time...
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it was just party
and live for today
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because we don't even
know if we have tomorrow
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and the idea was nuclear buildup
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and I remember when I
became a Seventh-day Adventist,
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now, I wasn't an Adventist
in... in my childhood...
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I was raised Catholic...
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"Roman
Catholic" my Mom would say
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but as a young
man, I was Born Again
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and I accepted
Christ as my Savior...
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still wasn't an Adventist...
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I was going to Calvary Chapel,
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I was going to a
Pentecostal Church
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and I was studying with the
Adventists to get my sister out,
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I thought it was a cult...
they went to church on Saturday,
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what's that all about?
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And I remember going
to this Prophecy Seminar
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as I was studying about
Adventism to get my sister out
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and I remember
becoming more and more convicted
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through Bible Studies...
through this Prophecy Seminar
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and then I remember
the Adventist teaching
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about how the whole world...
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the whole world was
going to follow this Power
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who was wounded and
its deadly wound was healed
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and they identified this
Power as the Papacy, you know,
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the church that I
used to belong to...
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and I thought that's
crazy, look at the USSR...
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that's an Atheistic Power...
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that's... that's the
Octopus of the world,
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they've got control... way
more submarines and missiles
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and tanks and are in
countries than the US,
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that will... like,
how could that happen?
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But, I thought about Daniel
2... Daniel 7... Daniel 8...
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didn't understand Daniel 11...
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thought about
Revelation's, you know, history
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and how it had
all been fulfilled
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and I stepped
out in 1984 by faith
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and I accepted the
Adventist interpretation...
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even though I couldn't see it.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: Five years later in 1989
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when Communism
fell like a whirlwind...
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that's how Time
Magazine described it...
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it was like the
days of a whirlwind...
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it just happened overnight,
you remember that, don't you?
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
James: Overnight...
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my faith soared...
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it went out of
orbit... it was in space...
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I was like, "Whoa,
the Adventists are... "
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I mean, "We're right!"
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All: Laughter.
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James: "We have an understanding
of prophecy that's correct...
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look at this!"
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And that's what we see here,
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right here in this verse...
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see, chariots and horsemen
represent military might.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: When
Communism fell in 1989,
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we found out ten years later...
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1992 is when
the article came out
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but it was ten years after 1982
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when in 1982, Reagan and
the Pope had met together
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in Alaska to conspire
against the Soviet Union
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and one of their aims...
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one of the aims of Ronald Reagan
was to build up missiles...
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nuclear missiles
in Western Europe
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and to try to make it
too costly for the Soviets
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to keep up with... with America
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so, he started
building up all these missiles,
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you remember that?
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Chariots and Horsemen, you know,
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and the ships
represent economic pressure...
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they were putting economic
pressure on the Soviet Union
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and we're told that when the
Miners went on strike in Poland,
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that's where Solidarity
started, that's were the...
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the fall started...
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their demands were soap
and toilet paper and sugar...
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they just wanted the basics...
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the Soviet Union had
become bankrupt economically
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because they've
been trying to keep up
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with the military
might of the United States.
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This is the symbolism
that we're seeing here
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and then when the
Soviet Union fell,
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Catholicism
entered into the countries
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because it had been banned.
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It had been actually
illegal in some countries
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for the Catholic
Church to exist even in Poland
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which was mostly
a Catholic Nation,
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Pope John Paul the 2nd had...
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because he was the
Bishop there before...
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he became the Pope.
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He had outdoor Masses
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because they
couldn't build churches there
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and he would just erect a cross
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and the Communists
would tear it down...
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he would erect again
and they would tear it down,
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finally they gave up
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and that began this whole
process of Communism falling...
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he stood up to Communism
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and the people started
standing up to Communism
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and eventually, it just crumbled
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but it was in harmony with what
we're reading in this very verse
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the same thing...
Revelation 13:3... one verse,
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he gets the deadly
wound and the wound is healed
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and then he enters
into the countries.
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So, we're seeing this prophecy
now... from the time of the end,
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1798 onward... we're
seeing this prophecy...
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see, when... when
Atheism rose in France,
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that wasn't the end of it,
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that was just the
beginning of it...
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that principle
spread throughout Europe
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to all these different nations
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and, of course, it's
still in the world today
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and we're going to see
that in a verse further down
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because even though
we saw Atheism fall...
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Communism fall in the USSR,
in verse, I think it's verse...
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yeah, it's verse 42,
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it talks about this king
stretching forth his hand
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also upon the countries:
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and the land of
Egypt shall not escape.
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Well, we also already
identified Egypt as Atheism
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so, we would have to then say,
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"Well, if this prophecy
is talking about our time,
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and USSR already
fell in verse 40,
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is there another Communist
Power in the world today
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other than the USSR
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and we'd have to say...
well yeah, there is... China
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yeah, and some other satellite
nations like North Korea, etc.,
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so, God's Word is right
on track... right on track.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: Yeah, I want to
add some things in here
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because what we see
in these events, I think,
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are like markers, right,
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because what's
happening in Daniel 11: 40
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is an ongoing battle
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right, and we
can see that battle
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even unfolding
just in America today.
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James: Yes.
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Ivor: Right, because we have
the philosophies of Secularism
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and Atheism in
America today. James: Marxism.
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Ivor: Marxism. James: Yeah.
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Ivor: You see all
these things at war
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and then you have this
king of the North Power.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: And it's very
interesting because if you...
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I'm going to ask someone to
turn to Ezekiel 26 verse 7...
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Ezekiel 26 verse 7 and
you could read that text
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and I'm going to comment on it
and then show some things here
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so, Ezekiel 26 verse 7.
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Yvonne: "For thus
says the Lord God:
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'Behold, I will bring
against Tyre from the north
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Nebuchadnezzar king of
Babylon, king of kings,
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with horses, with
chariots, and with horsemen,
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and an army with many people. '"
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Ivor: All right now, I need...
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I need us to
read that in the KJV
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because something very
important is missing there.
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Yvonne: Okay.
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James: "For thus
saith the Lord God;
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'Behold, I will bring upon Tyrus
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Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon,
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a king of kings, from the north,
with horses, and with chariots,
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and with
horsemen, and companies,
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and much people. '"
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Ivor: All right, so notice how
Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon,
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is called: the
king from the North.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... James: Yes.
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Ivor: Right, what's
happening in 11 verse 40
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is a parallel to the
identity of literal Babylon.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: We know in
Revelation chapter 18 that...
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that... and
Revelation 18 and Revelation 14
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that Babylon is
a symbolic power.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: Right, and
this symbolic power...
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Babylon represents
specifically a religious power.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: So, what
you have is, you know,
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this counterfeit Christianity
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versus Atheism, Secularism, etc.
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James: Okay.
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Ivor: Even though we have the...
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the... the... the events
of the USSR falling in 1989,
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and even the
Papacy being reestablished
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as a
Church/State Entity in 1929,
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just historical markers...
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: Ultimately, this
battle is still going on
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and in Daniel 11
verse 40, the king...
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the ultimate king of
the North... anyone remember
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what Isaiah chapter 14
verses 12 through 14 say?
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: Isaiah 14:12 through 14...
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it... let's...
let's just read that.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: Isaiah 14:12 through 14,
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this is speaking about Lucifer
himself and watch what it says.
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Jason: "How you are
fallen from heaven, O Lucifer,
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son of the morning!
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How you are cut
down to the ground,
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you who weakened the nations!
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For you have said in your heart:
'I will ascend into heaven,
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I will exalt my throne
above the stars of God;
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I will also sit on the
mount of the congregation
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on the farthest
sides of the north;
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I will ascend above
the heights of the clouds,
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I will be like the Most High. '"
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He's lost his mind.
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James: Hmmm... Yvonne: Laughter.
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Ivor: Listen. James: Yes.
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Ivor: Check this out
guys, in... you know...
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this war between
Christian religion...
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counterfeit-religion
Babylon and Atheism...
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it's been going back and
forth and even in America today,
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you see the conflict, right?
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: It's not going to stop...
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it's not going to stop...
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it is going to stop
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but it's not going
to stop by human power.
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James: Hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: Right, the only
way this battle ends...
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the only way the
king of the North
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ultimately defeats and
wipes out Atheism worldwide
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is when Satan himself
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as the ultimate
"king of the North"
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comes like Jesus.
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James: Hmmm...
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Ivor: So, let me show you that.
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I want you to go to
Isaiah... Isaiah 66 verse 15.
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James: Okay.
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Jason: All right, "For behold,
the Lord will come with fire
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and with His
chariots, like a whirlwind,
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to render His anger with fury,
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and His rebuke
with flames of fire. "
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Ivor: This verse is describing
the second coming of Jesus.
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James: Okay.
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Ivor: And so,
what we have happening
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in Daniel 11:40
is a counterfeit...
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an imitation of what's happening
in Isaiah 66 verse 15, right,
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Satan will come and
appear as an angel of light...
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he is going to come and
try to be like the Most High.
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He is going
to... and by the way,
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this is what wipes
out the king of the South.
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James: Hmmm... Ivor:
Right... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: For an Atheist,
seeing is believing...
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for those people who are
like, "Oh, we're Secular...
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oh we're Atheist... we
don't believe in God... "
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when this
happens, they have no...
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there's nothing that
they can argue, right,
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they are seeing this counterfeit
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and this is why it's interesting
because this Power...
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when this event happens,
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the Bible says that he
comes like whirlwind...
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with chariots... with horsemen
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and with many ships.
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I want you to notice this,
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the whirlwind
represents air power...
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chariots and horsemen
represent land power...
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ships represent sea power.
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We know that in
Revelation chapter 13
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and Revelation chapter...
yeah, Revelation chapter 13...
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Revelation chapter 12...
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we have the dragon
who's a prince of the air...
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we have the
beast from the sea...
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we have the beast from the earth
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and so, in other words,
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this Satanic combination of
dragon, beast, false prophet
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are ultimately going to
surround the people of God.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... James: Hmmm...
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Ivor: That's what
we're going find happen...
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they're going to
surround the people of God
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which is very interesting
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because in Daniel 11
verse 41 the very next verse...
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"He shall enter also
into the glorious land,
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reminds us of when Jesus says,
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"When you see the
abomination of desolation,
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standing in the holy place... "
00:16:00.86\00:16:02.92
James: Hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:16:02.96\00:16:04.96
Ivor: Then let them which
be in Judaea... etc... flee...
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in other words, he's
giving this as the sign...
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the symbol...
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when this
happens, know that... what?
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Michael is about to stand up.
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James: Hmmm...
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: Right, so, what
we're seeing unfold before us
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right now... this...
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this play and counter-play
between Secularism and Communism
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and even China was mentioned...
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look, the only way China is
going to stop being China...
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that will take a miracle.
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James: Hmmm...
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: And the miracle is exactly
what Revelation chapter 13...
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Revelation chapter 13 verse
13, "He doeth great wonders,
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so that he make fire come down
on earth in the sight of men"
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this is Satan himself appearing
as the ultimate counterfeit
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of Jesus Christ.
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This is what
causes all the nations...
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when we talk about, you
know, the One World Order
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and everyone is going to
follow this king of the North...
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this is how that happens
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because I want you to
think about this right now,
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like, you know, just
think of the Papacy...
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the head of the Papacy
which is... you know...
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which is the Pope...
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there are people who are
like, "The Pope... whatever...
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the Papacy... whatever... "
00:17:21.20\00:17:22.77
like, "Nothing you do or say
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is going to
make me ever, ever...
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what? like, observe a holy day,
are you crazy, I'm Atheist...
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you... you could kill me. "
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When Satan himself
appears... all doubt...
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all antagonism
is done away with.
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James: Hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: Because the Bible says,
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"The whole world is going
to wonder after the beast...
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except those who
know their God. "
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: Right, except those who
have a relationship with God...
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except those who keep
the commandments of God
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and have the testimony of Jesus.
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So, what you see
happening in verse 40 onward
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is... it's a buildup, right,
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all the events
we've mentioned before...
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but it culminates
with Satan appearing
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as the king of the North himself
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and remember what we said,
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"When you see
Michael in the Scriptures,
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it is because he is about
to have face-to-face conflict
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with Satan himself.
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James: Hmmm... Jason: Hmmm...
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: And that's what we
see in... in Daniel chapter 12
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and verse 1 when
Michael stands up,
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so, yeah, going
back to verse 41 then...
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so, he enters
into the glorious land,
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and many
countries... King James...
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many shall be overthrown:
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but these shall
escape out of his hand,
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even Edom, and Moab,
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and the chief of
the children of Ammon.
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I want us to look
at a couple of verses
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that really bring this out.
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The word "escape" by the way
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is the same word that's used in
Daniel 12 verse 1 where is says,
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"At that time shall Michael
stand up, that great Prince
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which stands for the
children of thy people:
00:19:06.91\00:19:08.24
and there shall
be a time of trouble,
00:19:08.28\00:19:09.61
such as never was
since there was a nation
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even to that same time:
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and thy people
shall be delivered,
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every one that's
found written in the book. "
00:19:14.88\00:19:17.05
That word
"delivered" in the Hebrews
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is the same word "escape. "
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Yvonne: Hmmm... Jason: Hmmm...
00:19:19.85\00:19:21.19
James: So, the people that
are symbolized by Edom, Moab,
00:19:21.22\00:19:24.33
and Ammon, are God's people
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because they are delivered just
like God's people are delivered
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but I want us to go back
now to Isaiah chapter 11.
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Isaiah chapter 11
is a powerful chapter
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that describes the
first coming of Jesus
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and also talks
about the last day events
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and it really... the
way you connect these two
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is with these three tribes.
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If you look up
these three tribes,
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you're not going to find
them anywhere in the Bible
00:19:49.45\00:19:50.85
except... mentioned
together... except right here
00:19:50.89\00:19:52.79
in Isaiah chapter 11,
00:19:52.82\00:19:54.56
as far as
eschatological prophecy goes.
00:19:54.59\00:19:56.73
Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: Now, just...
let's just read these verses,
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Yvonne, could
you start in verse 11
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and let's just read
through the whole chapter
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the whole rest of the chapter.
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Yvonne: Sure, "It shall
come to pass in that day
00:20:06.33\00:20:08.84
that the Lord shall set
His hand again the second time
00:20:08.87\00:20:11.97
to recover the remnant
of His people who are left,
00:20:12.01\00:20:15.08
from Assyria and
Egypt, from Pathros and Cush,
00:20:15.11\00:20:18.18
from Elam and Shinar,
00:20:18.21\00:20:20.08
from Hamath and
the islands of the sea.
00:20:20.12\00:20:22.45
He will set up a
banner for the nations,
00:20:22.48\00:20:24.82
and will assemble
the outcasts of Israel,
00:20:24.85\00:20:27.62
and gather together
the dispersed of Judah
00:20:27.66\00:20:30.43
from the four
corners of the earth.
00:20:30.46\00:20:33.06
Also the envy of
Ephraim shall depart,
00:20:33.09\00:20:35.63
and the adversaries of
Judah shall be cut off;
00:20:35.66\00:20:38.53
Ephraim shall not envy Judah,
00:20:38.57\00:20:41.24
and Judah shall
not harass Ephraim.
00:20:41.30\00:20:43.57
But they shall fly down upon
the shoulder of the Philistines
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toward the west;
00:20:46.84\00:20:48.61
together they shall
plunder the people of the East;
00:20:48.64\00:20:51.71
they shall lay their
hand on Edom and Moab;
00:20:51.75\00:20:54.62
and the people of
Amon shall obey them.
00:20:54.65\00:20:57.45
The Lord will utterly destroy
the tongue of the Sea of Egypt;
00:20:57.49\00:21:01.09
with His mighty wind He will
shake His fist over the River,
00:21:01.12\00:21:04.69
and strike it in
the seven streams,
00:21:04.73\00:21:07.30
and make men
cross over dry-shod.
00:21:07.33\00:21:09.80
There will be a highway
for the remnant of His people
00:21:09.86\00:21:12.83
who will be left from Assyria,
00:21:12.87\00:21:14.87
as it was for Israel
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in the day that he came
up from the land of Egypt. "
00:21:16.64\00:21:20.21
James: Now, if you just think
about this in end-time events,
00:21:20.24\00:21:24.65
you're talking
about the Loud Cry...
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you're talking about an
ensign to the nations...
00:21:26.48\00:21:28.38
you're talking about
God recovering His people
00:21:28.42\00:21:30.25
from all over the world
even from the islands of the sea
00:21:30.29\00:21:34.32
and the outcasts of Israel...
and the dispersed of Judah
00:21:34.36\00:21:38.36
being brought back...
00:21:38.39\00:21:39.73
we're talking about
backslidden Adventists...
00:21:39.76\00:21:41.16
we're talking
about our children...
00:21:41.23\00:21:42.56
we're talking about
God gathering people
00:21:42.60\00:21:46.03
and the envy and the
jealousy between God's people
00:21:46.07\00:21:51.34
coming to an end.
00:21:51.37\00:21:52.71
They're presenting to
the world the united front
00:21:52.74\00:21:54.41
under persecution...
00:21:54.44\00:21:56.08
they're going forth together
00:21:56.11\00:21:58.31
and they're laying
their hand upon Edom, Moab,
00:21:58.35\00:22:01.28
and the chief of
the children of Ammon.
00:22:01.32\00:22:03.02
Same three tribes that escaped
out of the hand of this Power
00:22:03.05\00:22:05.75
when it begins to... to
take the whole world captive
00:22:05.79\00:22:09.96
with this
miracles and deception,
00:22:09.99\00:22:11.53
people are going to be delivered
00:22:11.56\00:22:13.06
and the people are
these specific tribes
00:22:13.09\00:22:15.73
which are
connected to God's people
00:22:15.76\00:22:18.17
but in the Bible were
enemies to God's people.
00:22:18.23\00:22:19.70
Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:22:19.73\00:22:21.07
James: That they're
connected to Edom...
00:22:21.10\00:22:22.44
they are connected to Lot
00:22:22.47\00:22:23.87
so, there are a lot of people
00:22:23.91\00:22:25.54
that are
connected to God's people
00:22:25.57\00:22:27.48
but that they're
enemies of God's people...
00:22:27.51\00:22:29.08
what I might want to say is,
00:22:29.11\00:22:30.51
the majority of God's people
00:22:30.55\00:22:31.88
are in all these different
denominations and churches
00:22:31.91\00:22:34.62
in all walks of life
00:22:34.65\00:22:35.98
and the Bible is
indicating here in Isaiah 11
00:22:36.02\00:22:38.49
that they are going to
come in when this... this...
00:22:38.52\00:22:42.79
this effort goes forth
from God to collect them
00:22:42.82\00:22:47.10
in the end of time
00:22:47.13\00:22:48.46
that when this message goes
to all these different countries
00:22:48.50\00:22:51.40
Ivor... what?
00:22:51.43\00:22:52.80
Ivor: And remember,
James, that in Isaiah 11,
00:22:52.83\00:22:56.00
Isaiah is talking
about the children of Israel
00:22:56.04\00:22:59.14
coming back from Babylon.
00:22:59.17\00:23:00.51
James: Yes.
00:23:00.54\00:23:01.88
Ivor: Because he's prophesying
that they're going into Babylon
00:23:01.91\00:23:04.78
but he's saying, "Listen, there
is going to be a re-gathering,
00:23:04.81\00:23:07.95
you've going to come
back into your own land... "
00:23:07.98\00:23:09.65
and so, this is
what we see here,
00:23:09.68\00:23:11.55
God has people, as you
were just pointing out,
00:23:11.59\00:23:14.76
in Babylon.
00:23:14.79\00:23:16.12
James: Hmmm... hmmm...
four corners of the earth.
00:23:16.16\00:23:17.99
Ivor: That's Revelation
14... Revelation 18...
00:23:18.03\00:23:20.06
"Come out of her my people... "
00:23:20.10\00:23:22.30
so, they're
coming out of Babylon
00:23:22.33\00:23:24.43
which is not a literal
land but a spiritual entity,
00:23:24.50\00:23:30.47
then they're
coming into God's place...
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into Jerusalem, if you will,
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or spiritual Israel...
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out of Babylon...
into spiritual Israel
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just as they
literally came out of Babylon
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to go back into literal Israel.
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James: There is so much here...
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talks about the
Egyptian sea the tongue...
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the speaking... the
communication of Atheism,
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Marxism... Communism...
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God's going to
do away with that...
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it's not going to
have its effect...
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it's not going to have
its impact on these people.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: There are
going to be people out there
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that are not going to
buy into all of this stuff...
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there's a lot of symbolism here
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but this is
end-time prophetic truth
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and... and then it's
followed by chapter 12
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which basically is
like a victory song.
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Isaiah Chapter 12, "In that day,
I will praise Thee O Lord... "
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you know, "cry out and shout
for the inhabitants of Zion:
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for great is the
Lord, the Holy One,
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in the midst of thee. "
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This is a parallel, if you will,
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to Revelation 14
and Revelation 15.
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Revelation 14... the loud
cry goes to all the world...
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the gospel goes
to every nation...
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brings in all these
peoples, multitudes and tongues
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and Revelation 15... they sing
the song of Moses and the Lamb.
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So, we have a mini
repeat right there.
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The way this
connects with Daniel 11
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is through those three tribes.
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God is interested
in rescuing His people
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who are out there in the world.
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Isaiah 11 is
making that very clear.
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God is interested in
rescuing the outcasts of Israel
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and the dispersed of Judah.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: There are a lot
of people who have been
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cast out of the church
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because they simply weren't
able to live up to the light
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that we gave them
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because we didn't emphasize
relationship with Jesus Christ.
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There's a lot of people that
have been dispersed of Judah
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simply because they have certain
standards or beliefs or truths
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that they're holding to...
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a lot of people are
like, "Man, that's legalism,
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that's too much... you
shouldn't be doing that... "
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or whatever...
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there's a lot of
division taking place
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among God's people right now,
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it's going to come to an end
when we get into the Loud Cry.
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When we get into a time
where persecution comes upon us,
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we're going to lay
aside these minor differences
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and we're going to present
to the world a united front.
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So, while we see in Daniel
11, we see this power coming in
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and taking control of, you
know, Egypt and the Libyans
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and the Ethiopians
follow in his step, verse 43,
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having control of the treasures
of gold and silver and...
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and the precious
things... verse 43...
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we also see God's
people escaping...
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we also see people
in the world escaping...
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we also see God's
people being delivered
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and then we see
something really significant.
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In... in... in Daniel
chapter 11 and verse 44,
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we see tidings out of
the east and out of the north
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that trouble him.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... Hmmm...
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James: Tidings out of
the east and out of the north
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that are troubling him.
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What could be
troubling this Power
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in a time when it's controlling
the world economically?
00:26:20.18\00:26:22.78
In a time when it's entering
into all the countries...
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in a time when it's causing
miracles to deceive multitudes,
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what could trouble
this Power? Tidings...
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Tidings is a word
that we connect with
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Revelation
chapter 14 and verse 6?
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The everlasting gospel...
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"I saw another angel
fly in the midst of heaven,
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having the
everlasting gospel... "
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the tidings... the good
news... the everlasting gospel
00:26:41.30\00:26:44.63
out of the east...
what does that mean?
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Well, in Revelation 7,
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the Sealing Angel
has the Seal of God...
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the Sabbath Seal
comes out of the East.
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"I saw another angel
ascending from the east... "
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So, there's tidings that are
being proclaimed to the world
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in this time of miracle-working
time of deception,
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these tidings that are
proclaimed to the world
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about the Sabbath
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and in the North...
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Jesus is the true
King of the North,
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He's the true king
that's going to deliver us,
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so, the Advent of Christ...
the Sabbath and the Advent...
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hmmm...
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I wonder if these
people might be called:
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Seventh-day Adventists...
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see, this is where
our name comes from,
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it comes from
Daniel 11 verse 44.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: We are the people
that... that herald tidings...
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the gospel out of the East...
Seventh-day Sabbath message
00:27:30.31\00:27:32.68
Seventh-day
message and the North...
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the second coming of the
true King of the North...
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Jesus Christ.
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Our name is etched right
here in symbolic language
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and we need to
really open this up...
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we've jumped ahead a little
bit because I got excited about,
00:27:41.46\00:27:44.39
you know, what God is doing in
this time when Satan is working,
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we'll come back and we'll...
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we'll open this up
just a little bit more
00:27:48.90\00:27:50.77
and define some of these
terms and some of this symbolism
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in our next...
in our next episode.
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