Music... 00:00:01.36\00:00:31.63 James: Well, we are back. 00:00:31.66\00:00:32.99 I don't want to tell the Viewers 00:00:33.03\00:00:34.63 about all the troubles we've had 00:00:34.66\00:00:36.33 but let's just say we had a little mini-Daniel 10 yesterday. 00:00:36.36\00:00:39.27 Yvonne: I think we should. Jason: I think we should. 00:00:39.30\00:00:40.70 Ivor: Tell all the troubles that we had, yes. 00:00:40.74\00:00:44.87 All: Laughter. 00:00:44.91\00:00:46.51 Jason: Because, I mean, really, it just points to the fact 00:00:46.54\00:00:49.54 that the devil really doesn't want us to understand this book 00:00:49.58\00:00:52.55 and so, he really gets upset 00:00:52.58\00:00:54.82 when we try to study Bible prophecy and all of that stuff, 00:00:54.85\00:00:57.65 we had our water cut off in the area the other day... 00:00:57.69\00:01:01.72 Pastor Myers had his Internet cut off the other day 00:01:01.76\00:01:05.09 and the whole city... their Internet cut off... 00:01:05.16\00:01:07.86 I mean, what are the odds of that happening 00:01:07.90\00:01:10.60 when we're trying to Skype him in. 00:01:10.63\00:01:12.33 James: Yeah, and finish this Set... this Series 00:01:12.37\00:01:15.00 and especially after we got done with Daniel chapter 10 00:01:15.04\00:01:17.97 where we talked about that spiritual conflict 00:01:18.01\00:01:20.08 that was taking place 00:01:20.11\00:01:21.44 and the verse I thought about was the one in Ephesians 00:01:21.48\00:01:23.91 where it says that Satan is the prince of the power of the air, 00:01:23.95\00:01:26.31 you know, the Internet and all that service, 00:01:26.35\00:01:28.48 so, he's working, you know, 00:01:28.52\00:01:30.09 Pastor Myers, that was an unusual happening, right? 00:01:30.12\00:01:32.72 How often does the whole city get its Internet shut down? 00:01:32.75\00:01:34.99 Ivor: Yeah, I mean, we had finished our recording... 00:01:35.02\00:01:38.96 we're like, "We're going to go do lunch, 00:01:38.99\00:01:40.36 we're going to come back... we're going to hit Daniel 11 00:01:40.40\00:01:43.20 23 onward... " and the next thing I know 00:01:43.23\00:01:47.00 my Internet is just gone... the whole city... outage 00:01:47.04\00:01:50.87 and they were like, 00:01:50.91\00:01:52.91 "It will be back on, like, in an hour... " 00:01:52.94\00:01:55.98 it didn't come back on till last night 00:01:56.01\00:01:59.01 so, yeah, that was the most important thing happening 00:01:59.05\00:02:05.52 in my city... 00:02:05.55\00:02:06.96 yesterday was this recording, so... 00:02:07.02\00:02:11.49 All: Laughter. 00:02:11.53\00:02:12.99 Ivor: The Devil was like, "Nah! we've got to shut this down!" 00:02:13.03\00:02:14.76 James: "Got to shut it down. " 00:02:14.83\00:02:16.16 I love the way you think... that's beautiful 00:02:16.20\00:02:19.33 and we also, you know, are facing a deadline... 00:02:19.40\00:02:22.14 today's our deadline, really, for getting finished here, 00:02:22.17\00:02:24.91 and we really want to finish this Series up. 00:02:24.94\00:02:26.64 We were talking about, you know, how... 00:02:26.68\00:02:28.31 how many years it's been since we started this 00:02:28.34\00:02:30.65 and we really want to get this done 00:02:30.68\00:02:32.81 so, and we're in a very important part 00:02:32.85\00:02:34.95 of the book of Daniel... 00:02:34.98\00:02:36.32 now, all of it is important 00:02:36.35\00:02:37.69 and Daniel 9, of course, is foundational 00:02:37.72\00:02:39.05 but Daniel 11 is one of the most difficult 00:02:39.09\00:02:41.49 and challenging parts of this whole book 00:02:41.52\00:02:43.96 and there's a lot of views on this 00:02:43.99\00:02:46.23 so, we're not going to try to say, 00:02:46.26\00:02:48.46 "Well, this is the only view" or "This is the right view" 00:02:48.50\00:02:50.67 we're simply going to go in 00:02:50.70\00:02:52.23 and see what the texts are telling us 00:02:52.27\00:02:54.74 in relationship to history... 00:02:54.80\00:02:57.21 Bible prophecy is a revelation of history... 00:02:57.24\00:03:00.34 past... present and future 00:03:00.38\00:03:01.71 and we're going to see that in Daniel chapter 11. 00:03:01.74\00:03:03.95 When we get to the end of Daniel 11, 00:03:03.98\00:03:06.31 Michael stands up when Probation closes... that's future history 00:03:06.35\00:03:10.09 and we're moving closer and closer to that point 00:03:10.12\00:03:12.95 so we know those verses in the latter part of Daniel 11 00:03:13.02\00:03:15.82 are going to be applicable to us right now. 00:03:15.86\00:03:17.83 I think we're going to be able to pinpoint 00:03:17.86\00:03:19.76 where we are right now basically in Daniel chapter 11. 00:03:19.79\00:03:22.90 So, we want to, of course, have a word of prayer 00:03:22.93\00:03:25.53 as we enter into this, 00:03:25.57\00:03:26.90 Jason, if you'd like to pray for us. 00:03:26.94\00:03:28.27 Jason: "Dear Heavenly Father, 00:03:28.30\00:03:29.64 we thank You for allowing all of this to come into fruition 00:03:29.67\00:03:33.11 and even though there has been setbacks and challenges, Lord, 00:03:33.14\00:03:37.08 You've overcome them and so we're grateful for that. 00:03:37.11\00:03:40.05 Now, we just ask for the outpouring of Your Holy Spirit 00:03:40.12\00:03:43.02 as we seek to understand what we're learning 00:03:43.05\00:03:46.09 and we're hearing 00:03:46.12\00:03:47.46 and be with the Viewers as well 00:03:47.49\00:03:49.16 and help them to be receptive to the message, 00:03:49.22\00:03:51.99 in Jesus' name we pray, amen. " 00:03:52.03\00:03:53.36 All: Amen. 00:03:53.40\00:03:54.73 James: So, basically we have looked at Daniel 11 00:03:54.76\00:03:58.57 from verses 1 all the way through to about verse 22 00:03:58.60\00:04:02.37 and we started out with Medo-Persia 00:04:02.40\00:04:04.94 because Babylon has passed from the scene... 00:04:04.97\00:04:06.64 that was in the first couple of verses... 00:04:06.68\00:04:08.34 then we transitioned into Greece 00:04:08.38\00:04:11.11 and what we see here in Daniel 11 00:04:11.15\00:04:13.92 beginning with verse, I think, it is verse 3, 00:04:13.95\00:04:17.39 is the King of Greece 00:04:17.42\00:04:20.22 which is Alexander the Great, the 1st king 00:04:20.26\00:04:22.89 and that takes us all the way down to verse 14 00:04:22.92\00:04:25.93 and verse 14... we saw "the robbers of thy people 00:04:25.96\00:04:28.90 establishing the vision... " 00:04:28.93\00:04:30.77 and that word "robbers" means breakers 00:04:30.80\00:04:33.10 and that connects with Daniel 7 and verse 7 00:04:33.13\00:04:35.64 and points us to Rome... 00:04:35.67\00:04:37.17 Rome begins to rise up in its pagan form 00:04:37.21\00:04:39.87 and that takes us to verses at least 20 to 22 00:04:39.91\00:04:43.01 where we see "a raiser of taxes" standing up in the kingdom 00:04:43.04\00:04:46.01 which is Augustus Caesar... 00:04:46.08\00:04:47.68 we correlated that to Luke chapter 2 verse 1 00:04:47.72\00:04:50.92 that when Christ was born, His parents went to Bethlehem 00:04:50.95\00:04:54.02 to be... to pay the taxes and to be registered 00:04:54.06\00:04:57.79 and then in verse 21, 00:04:57.86\00:05:00.10 a vile person stands up in his estate... 00:05:00.13\00:05:02.76 Tiberius follows Augustus Caesar... 00:05:02.80\00:05:05.17 he wasn't loved by the people like Augustus was 00:05:05.20\00:05:07.44 and it's under Tiberius Caesar that Jesus Christ is crucified, 00:05:07.47\00:05:11.51 that's why it says in verse 22, 00:05:11.54\00:05:13.48 "the prince of the covenant is going to be broken" 00:05:13.51\00:05:15.34 and then it also says that by... 00:05:15.41\00:05:17.31 "with the arms of a flood 00:05:17.35\00:05:18.98 they shall be overflown from before him... " 00:05:19.01\00:05:20.78 and that points to the destruction of Jerusalem. 00:05:20.82\00:05:22.52 So, in verses 20 to 22, we have the birth of Christ... 00:05:22.55\00:05:26.19 the death of Christ 00:05:26.25\00:05:27.59 and the destruction of Jerusalem. 00:05:27.62\00:05:28.96 That's a basic summary of what we've studied so far 00:05:28.99\00:05:32.33 in Daniel chapter 11. 00:05:32.36\00:05:33.80 We haven't gone into all of the details... 00:05:33.83\00:05:36.06 there's a lot of detailed here 00:05:36.10\00:05:37.47 and it's really... there's some really good stuff here, you know 00:05:37.50\00:05:40.47 there's a book that I would, you know, recommend on this 00:05:40.50\00:05:44.01 that... that really covers this well, 00:05:44.04\00:05:45.57 it's Uriah Smith's Daniel and the Revelation... 00:05:45.61\00:05:48.04 I don't think he has everything, you know, 00:05:48.08\00:05:50.55 just like I would want to see it, 00:05:50.58\00:05:52.51 especially in the verses we're going to cover right now, 00:05:52.55\00:05:54.48 leading on to the end 00:05:54.52\00:05:56.52 but this first half is excellent 00:05:56.55\00:05:58.69 and I've got notes all through my Bible 00:05:58.72\00:06:00.62 from that book from this first half 00:06:00.66\00:06:02.52 that are really good and really accurate historically 00:06:02.56\00:06:05.86 so, Ivor, is there anything else there that we've... 00:06:05.89\00:06:08.96 that you want to cover 00:06:09.00\00:06:10.33 before we move into the next part of this Section? 00:06:10.37\00:06:12.23 Ivor: No... I think... I think we've covered that sufficiently 00:06:12.27\00:06:16.57 so, we want to look for that next transition point 00:06:16.60\00:06:20.64 that we were talking about on the last Program 00:06:20.68\00:06:22.51 looking for these transition points... 00:06:22.54\00:06:24.98 not getting into the, you know, details of the... 00:06:25.01\00:06:29.42 of the previous powers that come on the scene 00:06:29.45\00:06:33.79 but looking for those transition points 00:06:33.82\00:06:35.96 and... and with Rome, 00:06:35.99\00:06:37.43 we definitely wanted to focus in on where Christ could be found 00:06:37.46\00:06:42.40 which, as you pointed out, is in the center of the chapter 00:06:42.43\00:06:46.43 but there you see Christ, you know, being attacked by Rome 00:06:46.47\00:06:50.47 crucified... the Prince of the covenant being broken 00:06:50.51\00:06:55.24 and then we will remember that after Rome, we... 00:06:55.28\00:07:00.02 the next power we are looking for 00:07:00.05\00:07:02.25 is what we have seen consistently 00:07:02.28\00:07:04.45 in the previous chapters. 00:07:04.49\00:07:05.82 James: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:07:05.85\00:07:07.19 Ivor: Right? Daniel 2... Daniel 7... Daniel 8 00:07:07.22\00:07:09.42 so, if we just do again a really quick recap in Daniel 2, 00:07:09.46\00:07:14.80 we see after the fall of Rome... 00:07:14.83\00:07:19.17 the legs of iron... James: Pagan Rome. 00:07:19.20\00:07:21.10 Ivor: We see... yeah, we see the toes of iron and clay 00:07:21.14\00:07:25.41 so, there is an iron element within the toes 00:07:25.44\00:07:29.64 which comes out of the legs of Rome... it continues... 00:07:29.68\00:07:32.85 this is the... this would be the... 00:07:32.88\00:07:36.18 the, you know, Roman Governments 00:07:36.22\00:07:39.45 but then you have this rising up of this clay element 00:07:39.52\00:07:43.16 mingled with the iron 00:07:43.19\00:07:45.99 and that represents the rise of a new kind of kingdom... 00:07:46.03\00:07:50.23 a kingdom that is different from the metals 00:07:50.27\00:07:53.27 of the head of gold... 00:07:53.34\00:07:55.34 the chest down to silver... 00:07:55.37\00:07:56.81 the belly and thighs of brass... 00:07:56.84\00:07:58.17 the legs of iron... 00:07:58.21\00:07:59.54 this is clay... 00:07:59.57\00:08:00.91 James: This is clay. 00:08:00.94\00:08:02.28 Ivor: And we've discovered that that clay 00:08:02.31\00:08:03.95 is a power that is represented in the Bible 00:08:04.01\00:08:06.68 as a people molded by God, right, God is their Maker. 00:08:06.72\00:08:12.35 James: Professing to be molded by God, yeah. 00:08:12.39\00:08:14.79 Ivor: Right, so you have Daniel 2... 00:08:14.82\00:08:17.53 you've got the clay mingled with the iron... 00:08:17.56\00:08:19.73 this is a religious power rising out of Rome. 00:08:19.79\00:08:21.50 James: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:08:21.53\00:08:22.86 Ivor: In Daniel 7, it is the Little Horn 00:08:22.90\00:08:25.80 that rises on the fourth beast... 00:08:25.83\00:08:29.67 it's still one beast, right... James: Right. 00:08:29.70\00:08:33.07 Ivor: Like in Daniel 4, there's only four kingdoms... 00:08:33.14\00:08:34.94 I mean, in Daniel 2, there's only four kingdoms. 00:08:35.01\00:08:37.18 James: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:08:37.21\00:08:38.55 Ivor: There's not five kingdoms, it's four, 00:08:38.58\00:08:40.82 right, so the clay is part of the fourth kingdom. 00:08:40.85\00:08:45.35 James: Right.. Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:08:45.39\00:08:47.22 Ivor: In Daniel 7, the Little Horn 00:08:47.26\00:08:49.06 is part of the fourth kingdom 00:08:49.12\00:08:51.56 but in Daniel 8, we now see God using one symbol 00:08:51.59\00:08:58.10 right, not two different parts of it like, 00:08:58.13\00:09:00.84 you know, clay and iron... 00:09:00.90\00:09:02.87 Little Horn and fourth beast... 00:09:02.90\00:09:04.51 now He just merges it into one Power 00:09:04.54\00:09:07.01 and there's a reason He's doing that 00:09:07.04\00:09:09.48 because He's trying to move us 00:09:09.51\00:09:11.61 from double vision to single vision, right? 00:09:11.65\00:09:13.85 "I need you to focus in on this particular power... " 00:09:13.88\00:09:17.72 and so, in Daniel 8... in verse 9, 00:09:17.75\00:09:21.49 the Bible says, "Out of one of them came forth a Little Horn" 00:09:21.52\00:09:24.73 this is the same Little Horn of Daniel 7, 00:09:24.76\00:09:27.20 now you're going to see this Little Horn wax exceeding great 00:09:27.23\00:09:30.83 toward the south... toward the east... 00:09:30.87\00:09:32.20 toward the Pleasant Land 00:09:32.23\00:09:33.57 and I want you to notice verse 10... 00:09:33.60\00:09:35.04 "It waxed great, even to the host of heaven" 00:09:35.07\00:09:37.64 that would be the people of God... 00:09:37.67\00:09:40.04 and it cast down some of the host and of the stars 00:09:40.08\00:09:42.81 to the ground, and stamped upon them. " 00:09:42.84\00:09:45.91 So, this is... this is a persecuting power 00:09:45.95\00:09:49.02 against the people of God, 00:09:49.05\00:09:50.39 we've seen that this is what... to Jerusalem, right, 00:09:50.42\00:09:53.72 verse 11, "Yea, he magnified himself 00:09:53.76\00:09:56.62 even to the prince of the host... " 00:09:56.66\00:09:59.43 all right, this is what we just read in Daniel 11:22, 00:09:59.46\00:10:03.40 right... same prince of the host... 00:10:03.43\00:10:07.00 prince of the covenant, right, 00:10:07.04\00:10:09.44 is being persecuted or being broken here 00:10:09.47\00:10:13.88 and this is Pagan Rome without a question... 00:10:13.91\00:10:18.28 "by him the daily was taken away, 00:10:18.31\00:10:21.48 and the place of his sanctuary cast down. " 00:10:21.55\00:10:24.75 What did Rome do? 00:10:24.82\00:10:26.15 In 70 A.D., they cast down the truth to the ground 00:10:26.19\00:10:31.19 and they practiced... I'm sorry... 00:10:31.23\00:10:33.23 excuse me... 00:10:33.29\00:10:34.63 they cast down the sanctuary, right, 00:10:34.66\00:10:38.43 they destroyed the sanctuary... the temple in 70 A.D. 00:10:38.47\00:10:43.17 so, you see Rome doing these things 00:10:43.20\00:10:47.01 but this power transitions into Papal Rome 00:10:47.04\00:10:53.45 which we will see does the same thing... 00:10:53.48\00:10:58.22 do the same thing but on a spiritual level. 00:10:58.25\00:11:02.96 James: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:11:02.99\00:11:04.33 Ivor: Right, this is why we get down to verse 13 00:11:04.36\00:11:07.83 and the question is about the sanctuary... 00:11:07.86\00:11:12.30 how long will this Little Horn be able to do these things 00:11:12.33\00:11:15.14 regarding the sanctuary 00:11:15.17\00:11:16.50 and we have this 2300-day prophecy 00:11:16.54\00:11:18.77 which pushes it way into the future... 00:11:18.81\00:11:21.14 way beyond the Roman Empire. 00:11:21.18\00:11:22.88 James: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:11:22.91\00:11:24.25 Ivor: Okay, so, we're looking at this one symbol... 00:11:24.28\00:11:28.88 the Little Horn representing Rome in its Pagan Phase 00:11:28.92\00:11:33.56 and then its Papal Phase. 00:11:33.59\00:11:36.12 James: Okay. 00:11:36.19\00:11:37.63 Ivor: Okay, when we go to Daniel 11, 00:11:37.66\00:11:40.96 we ought to be looking for the same power 00:11:41.00\00:11:44.63 being described or the same transition 00:11:44.67\00:11:48.60 being described almost as if... if it were one. 00:11:48.64\00:11:52.47 James: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:11:52.51\00:11:53.98 Ivor: So, let's go to Daniel 11 and let's read verses 22 and 23, 00:11:54.04\00:11:59.45 by the way... key point here... 00:11:59.48\00:12:01.68 the Little Horn starts out little and waxes great. 00:12:01.72\00:12:06.55 James: Hmmm... hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:12:06.59\00:12:07.92 Ivor: That's in Daniel 7... 00:12:07.96\00:12:09.39 it's also described in Daniel 8 the same way. 00:12:09.42\00:12:12.99 Starts out small... 00:12:13.03\00:12:14.36 and then grows big... waxes great. 00:12:14.40\00:12:17.10 That's the transition point we're looking for 00:12:17.13\00:12:19.70 so, let's go to Daniel 11 and let's read verses 22 and 23. 00:12:19.73\00:12:23.87 Jason: Okay, "With the force of a flood 00:12:23.91\00:12:26.31 they shall be swept away from before Him and be broken, 00:12:26.34\00:12:29.28 and also the prince of the covenant. 00:12:29.31\00:12:31.38 And after the league... " 00:12:31.41\00:12:33.42 Ivor: That's Rome... go ahead. 00:12:33.45\00:12:34.98 Jason: "And after the league is made with him 00:12:35.02\00:12:37.39 he shall act deceitfully, 00:12:37.42\00:12:39.19 for he shall come up and become strong 00:12:39.22\00:12:41.62 with a small number of people. " 00:12:41.69\00:12:43.19 Ivor: Okay, so, here we have this transition... 00:12:43.22\00:12:48.46 you see this transition of this power starting small 00:12:48.50\00:12:55.57 and becoming... 00:12:55.60\00:12:58.81 a host is given to it if you will, right, 00:12:58.84\00:13:03.11 it grows in power and might... 00:13:03.14\00:13:05.98 it starts small... it grows big... 00:13:06.01\00:13:08.52 Daniel 11:22... we have the covenant... 00:13:08.55\00:13:11.99 the prince of the covenant being broken 00:13:12.02\00:13:15.42 and then the very next verse 00:13:15.46\00:13:17.43 almost as if this is the same power 00:13:17.46\00:13:20.03 but because we've seen this transition 00:13:20.06\00:13:22.63 in the previous chapters, 00:13:22.66\00:13:24.00 we have to identify this... verse 23 00:13:24.03\00:13:28.17 as that same Little Horn in its Papal Phase 00:13:28.20\00:13:33.41 growing... starting small 00:13:33.48\00:13:36.08 and growing... to use the words of Daniel 8, 00:13:36.11\00:13:41.48 a host being given it 00:13:41.52\00:13:44.12 so that it becomes great. 00:13:44.15\00:13:46.65 So, verse 23 is where we have our transition point 00:13:46.72\00:13:51.16 from Pagan Rome... 00:13:51.19\00:13:52.73 and the most important point of Pagan Rome 00:13:52.79\00:13:54.96 is that it crucifies Christ, right, 00:13:55.00\00:13:57.73 so, once you see that in verse 23, 00:13:57.77\00:14:00.44 everything else it does after that, 00:14:00.47\00:14:03.04 you know, is kind of like... insignificant 00:14:03.10\00:14:05.51 in light of what God's trying to show us. 00:14:05.54\00:14:07.71 James: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:14:07.74\00:14:09.08 Pagan Rome's crucified Christ, 00:14:09.11\00:14:10.45 all right, you... you got that? 00:14:10.48\00:14:11.81 Now, we're going to transition to the Little Horn 00:14:11.85\00:14:14.05 and from verse 23 onward, it's all Papacy. 00:14:14.08\00:14:18.22 James: Okay. 00:14:18.25\00:14:19.59 Ivor: God is not going to go into the detail 00:14:19.62\00:14:22.12 of why this power brings about the standing up of Michael 00:14:22.16\00:14:29.06 in Daniel chapter 12 and verse 1. 00:14:29.10\00:14:31.63 James: Okay... 00:14:31.67\00:14:33.00 so Daniel chapter 2 we have four earthly kingdoms 00:14:33.03\00:14:36.10 before we see God's kingdom established... 00:14:36.14\00:14:38.34 Daniel chapter 8, we have the same earthly king... 00:14:38.37\00:14:40.78 or 7... we have four... same four earthly kingdoms 00:14:40.81\00:14:43.18 before God's kingdom is given to the saints of the Most High. 00:14:43.21\00:14:45.81 Daniel chapter 8, we have the same kingdoms 00:14:45.85\00:14:47.92 with Babylon left out 00:14:47.95\00:14:49.28 and then leading, of course, to the establishment 00:14:49.32\00:14:51.69 of God's kingdom. 00:14:51.72\00:14:53.05 In Daniel chapter 11, 00:14:53.09\00:14:54.42 we're following the same basic outline 00:14:54.46\00:14:55.92 and we transitioned now in Daniel 11 verse 23 00:14:55.96\00:15:00.36 from Pagan Rome to Papal Rome that starts small 00:15:00.40\00:15:04.73 and grows until a host is given unto it... 00:15:04.77\00:15:08.20 until it has a large support base behind it. 00:15:08.24\00:15:11.64 Is that what you're saying so far? 00:15:11.67\00:15:13.01 Ivor: Yeah. 00:15:13.04\00:15:14.38 James: And so, we see a transition taking place 00:15:14.41\00:15:16.41 but it's sometimes hard to discern that transition 00:15:16.44\00:15:18.65 because the principles of the iron 00:15:18.68\00:15:21.38 are still connected with the clay... 00:15:21.42\00:15:24.02 the professed religious power in the image 00:15:24.05\00:15:26.42 and we see that same connection taking place in Daniel 7, 00:15:26.45\00:15:29.39 Daniel 8 and now in Daniel 11. 00:15:29.42\00:15:31.99 Ivor: Yeah. 00:15:32.03\00:15:33.66 James: Okay, and so we're just trying to nuance that... 00:15:33.70\00:15:35.16 where is that transition taking place 00:15:35.20\00:15:36.93 and it's really... it's clear as we get up to the latter part 00:15:36.97\00:15:40.84 of this... well, the... on in this chapter, 00:15:40.90\00:15:43.81 let's just pick up, for example, in verse 30, 00:15:43.87\00:15:46.71 it talks about the ships of Chittim coming against him, 00:15:46.78\00:15:51.15 Yvonne, could you read that for us, verses 30, 31 and 32. 00:15:51.18\00:15:55.52 Yvonne: Sure, "For ships from Cyprus... " 00:15:55.55\00:15:59.05 which is the same as... 00:15:59.09\00:16:00.46 it's a... the King James versus the New King James, right? 00:16:00.49\00:16:03.79 James: Yeah, yeah. Ivor: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:16:03.83\00:16:05.39 "For ships from Cyprus shall come against him; 00:16:05.43\00:16:07.60 therefore he shall be grieved, 00:16:07.63\00:16:09.13 and return in rage against the holy covenant, 00:16:09.16\00:16:11.57 and do damage. 00:16:11.60\00:16:12.93 So he shall return and show regard 00:16:12.97\00:16:15.47 for those who forsake the holy covenant. 00:16:15.50\00:16:17.71 And forces shall be mustered by him, 00:16:17.74\00:16:19.91 and they shall defile the sanctuary fortress; 00:16:19.94\00:16:22.58 then they shall take away the daily sacrifices, 00:16:22.61\00:16:25.51 and place there the abomination of desolation. 00:16:25.55\00:16:28.42 Those who do wickedly against the covenant 00:16:28.45\00:16:31.25 he shall corrupt with flattery; 00:16:31.32\00:16:33.25 but the people who know their God shall be strong, 00:16:33.29\00:16:36.39 and carry out great exploits. " 00:16:36.42\00:16:38.26 James: Okay, so, these verses are clearly stepping us 00:16:38.29\00:16:42.10 into this transition because the... 00:16:42.16\00:16:45.00 the main focus of all of these verses 00:16:45.03\00:16:47.84 is the holy covenant... I don't know if you've noticed that. 00:16:47.87\00:16:49.30 Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:16:49.34\00:16:50.67 James: It was mentioned again and again and again. 00:16:50.71\00:16:52.57 In verse 30... the holy covenant. 00:16:52.61\00:16:54.34 Ivor: James, it's important for us to... to stress that 00:16:54.38\00:16:57.71 because from verse 23 to verse 29, it... it's... 00:16:57.75\00:17:02.22 you have all these like... military battles going on, 00:17:02.25\00:17:07.12 right, so remember that the Papacy is a two-fold Power. 00:17:07.16\00:17:10.99 It is a civil and religious power 00:17:11.03\00:17:14.36 right, and that's what makes it different 00:17:14.40\00:17:17.40 from these other kingdoms. 00:17:17.43\00:17:18.77 James: Yes. 00:17:18.80\00:17:20.14 Ivor: So, from verse 23 to 29, 00:17:20.17\00:17:23.10 you have these military battles going on 00:17:23.14\00:17:25.54 but from verse 30, you see this transition... 00:17:25.57\00:17:31.28 everything from verse 30 up to verse 39 00:17:31.31\00:17:34.68 is spiritual in nature. 00:17:34.72\00:17:36.95 James: Hmmm... hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:17:36.99\00:17:38.89 Ivor: Right, and so, we want to keep that in mind 00:17:38.92\00:17:42.36 and we are focusing in on the spiritual aspect 00:17:42.39\00:17:45.76 of this power from verse 30... 00:17:45.79\00:17:49.60 that's why you see the holy covenant introduced 00:17:49.63\00:17:52.63 and from there on out, 00:17:52.70\00:17:54.74 you're going to see the spiritual aspect... 00:17:54.77\00:17:57.24 the spiritual side of this Little Horn. 00:17:57.27\00:17:59.24 Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:17:59.27\00:18:00.61 Ivor: Yeah, and so, as we think about that, 00:18:00.64\00:18:02.11 the holy covenant, the holy covenant... 00:18:02.14\00:18:03.68 the holy covenant mentioned over and over again 00:18:03.71\00:18:07.32 and even the prince of the covenant... 00:18:07.35\00:18:08.68 there's got to be some significance to that, 00:18:08.72\00:18:11.32 you know, why would Daniel specifically bring up 00:18:11.35\00:18:13.92 that phrase? 00:18:13.96\00:18:15.29 And I believe the reason he does that is because 00:18:15.32\00:18:17.93 he... Daniel 11... God is inspiring Daniel 00:18:17.96\00:18:21.33 to kind of summarize in Daniel 11... 00:18:21.36\00:18:23.67 remember what you said yesterday, Ivor, 00:18:23.70\00:18:25.93 it's parallel and zoom... 00:18:26.27\00:18:27.77 parallel and zoom... 00:18:27.80\00:18:29.64 so, we're paralleling in Daniel 11 00:18:29.67\00:18:31.67 the previous chapters... previous visions 00:18:31.71\00:18:34.84 and then we're zooming in. 00:18:34.88\00:18:36.34 Well, the zoom-in is really significant because 00:18:36.38\00:18:39.78 what Daniel has actually been talking about 00:18:39.81\00:18:42.72 in the previous chapters is the New Covenant. 00:18:42.75\00:18:45.12 It's the holy covenant 00:18:45.15\00:18:46.86 but he hasn't really used that terminology... 00:18:46.89\00:18:49.02 he's used different terminology. 00:18:49.06\00:18:51.16 In Daniel chapter 7 for example, 00:18:51.19\00:18:54.20 the Little Horn attacks the Law of God... 00:18:54.23\00:18:56.06 thinks to change times and laws. 00:18:56.10\00:18:57.80 How is that connected to the New Covenant? 00:18:57.83\00:18:59.80 In Daniel chapter 8, 00:18:59.83\00:19:01.30 the Little Horn attacks the mediation of Christ 00:19:01.34\00:19:03.17 in the heavenly sanctuary. 00:19:03.20\00:19:04.77 How does that connect with the holy covenant? 00:19:04.81\00:19:06.88 So, we want to read some verses in Hebrews chapter 10 00:19:06.91\00:19:10.71 that identify for us specifically... or Hebrews 8... 00:19:10.75\00:19:13.31 that identify for us specifically 00:19:13.35\00:19:15.12 what the holy covenant is. 00:19:15.15\00:19:16.48 Now, we did look at Hebrews 10 before 00:19:16.52\00:19:19.55 but we want to go back now to Hebrews 8 00:19:19.59\00:19:21.09 because Hebrews 8 is a... 00:19:21.12\00:19:23.26 I think a more comprehensive definition of the holy covenant 00:19:23.29\00:19:26.66 and if you start here in Hebrews 8 and verse 6 00:19:26.70\00:19:31.27 and let's read all the way through verse 10. 00:19:31.30\00:19:34.04 Jason, could you read those verses for us? 00:19:34.07\00:19:35.40 Actually, let's read all the way to verse 12... 00:19:35.44\00:19:37.91 Hebrews chapter 8 verses 6 through 12. 00:19:37.94\00:19:39.74 Jason: Okay, 00:19:39.77\00:19:41.11 "But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, 00:19:41.14\00:19:44.18 inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, 00:19:44.21\00:19:48.48 which was established on better promises. 00:19:48.52\00:19:51.05 For if that first covenant had been faultless, 00:19:51.09\00:19:54.42 then no place would have been sought for a second. 00:19:54.46\00:19:57.26 Because finding fault with them, 00:19:57.29\00:19:59.76 He says: Behold, the days are coming, 00:19:59.79\00:20:01.93 says the Lord, 00:20:01.96\00:20:03.30 when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel 00:20:03.33\00:20:05.33 and with the house of Judah... 00:20:05.37\00:20:07.17 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers 00:20:07.20\00:20:10.61 in the day when I took them by the hand 00:20:10.64\00:20:12.91 to lead them out of the land of Egypt; 00:20:12.94\00:20:14.88 because they did not continue in My covenant, 00:20:14.91\00:20:17.21 and I disregarded them, says the Lord. 00:20:17.25\00:20:20.62 For this is the covenant that I will make 00:20:20.65\00:20:22.52 with the house of Israel after those days, 00:20:22.55\00:20:24.35 says the Lord: 00:20:24.39\00:20:25.75 I will put my laws in their mind 00:20:25.79\00:20:27.92 and write them on their hearts; 00:20:27.96\00:20:30.03 and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 00:20:30.06\00:20:33.33 None of them shall teach his neighbor, 00:20:33.36\00:20:36.16 and none his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' 00:20:36.20\00:20:40.00 for all shall know Me, 00:20:40.04\00:20:41.37 from the least of them to the greatest of them. 00:20:41.40\00:20:45.17 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, 00:20:45.21\00:20:47.64 and their sins and their lawless deeds 00:20:47.68\00:20:51.45 I will remember no more. " 00:20:51.48\00:20:52.81 James: Okay, so, we're just going to settle here 00:20:52.85\00:20:57.45 for just a few minutes on verses 10 through 12 specifically. 00:20:57.49\00:21:00.86 The context tells us this is a new covenant. 00:21:00.89\00:21:02.82 What does it involve? 00:21:02.86\00:21:04.26 Well, the first thing you notice in verse 10 00:21:04.29\00:21:07.13 is that it involves God putting His law 00:21:07.16\00:21:10.63 in our hearts and minds. 00:21:10.67\00:21:12.20 So, in Daniel 7... 00:21:12.23\00:21:13.80 the Little Horn attacks the Law of God. 00:21:13.84\00:21:16.14 What's he attacking? 00:21:16.17\00:21:17.54 The New Covenant, you see that? 00:21:17.57\00:21:19.04 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:21:19.07\00:21:20.41 James: And then it also involves in verse 12, 00:21:20.44\00:21:22.44 being merciful to unrighteousness 00:21:22.48\00:21:24.95 and taking our sins and iniquities 00:21:24.98\00:21:27.42 and remembering them no more. 00:21:27.45\00:21:28.78 Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:21:28.82\00:21:30.15 James: That's the mediation of Christ 00:21:30.19\00:21:31.52 in the heavenly sanctuary 00:21:31.55\00:21:32.89 so, the New Covenant involves Christ's mediation 00:21:32.92\00:21:34.79 for forgiveness for our sins... 00:21:34.82\00:21:36.16 in Daniel chapter 8, he attacks the sanctuary. 00:21:36.19\00:21:39.13 What's he really attacking? 00:21:39.16\00:21:40.50 The New Covenant... you see that? 00:21:40.53\00:21:42.53 Yvonne: Okay. 00:21:42.56\00:21:43.97 James: So, when we get to Daniel 11, 00:21:44.00\00:21:45.33 the connection is really clear when you understand 00:21:45.37\00:21:48.84 that Daniel 8 is attack of the New Covenant, 00:21:48.87\00:21:50.81 Daniel 7 is attack of the New Covenant... 00:21:50.84\00:21:52.74 so when Daniel says, "he's against the covenant... 00:21:52.77\00:21:55.31 he's fighting against the covenant... 00:21:55.34\00:21:56.68 he's having... he tells them to forsake the covenant... " 00:21:56.71\00:21:58.35 it's... it's the same power. 00:21:58.38\00:22:00.02 Does that make sense? 00:22:00.05\00:22:01.38 Yvonne: Yes. James: Same power... 00:22:01.42\00:22:02.75 and so we see that connection here when we hook in to 00:22:02.78\00:22:06.35 an understanding of the New Covenant. 00:22:06.39\00:22:08.56 Now, it's really important for us 00:22:08.62\00:22:10.79 to get this in a broader picture 00:22:10.83\00:22:12.93 because there are three other elements to the New Covenant 00:22:12.96\00:22:15.33 that we don't always pick up on. 00:22:15.36\00:22:16.70 Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:22:16.73\00:22:18.07 James: One of the elements that was mentioned 00:22:18.10\00:22:19.43 in verse 11 is, "They shall not teach every man his neighbor, 00:22:19.47\00:22:23.20 and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: 00:22:23.27\00:22:25.04 for all will know me, 00:22:25.07\00:22:26.41 from the least to the greatest. " 00:22:26.44\00:22:28.01 That's really something isn't it? 00:22:28.04\00:22:29.64 Yvonne: Hmmm... is that proclaiming the gospel? 00:22:29.68\00:22:33.25 James: Well, let's look at a Bible verse real quick... 00:22:33.28\00:22:35.15 I think it explains this really well... 00:22:35.18\00:22:37.05 just over a few pages in 1st John... 00:22:37.09\00:22:40.39 1st John... and we'll look at chapter 2 00:22:40.42\00:22:43.69 and look at verse 20 and then jump down to verse 27, 00:22:43.73\00:22:50.53 20 and 27 of 1st John chapter 2. 00:22:50.57\00:22:52.70 Yvonne, can you read those for us? 00:22:52.73\00:22:54.54 Yvonne: Yes... 00:22:54.57\00:22:55.90 "But you have an anointing from the Holy One, 00:22:55.94\00:22:57.57 and you know all things. 00:22:57.61\00:22:59.17 But the anointing which you have received from Him 00:22:59.21\00:23:03.21 abides in you, 00:23:03.24\00:23:04.78 and you do not need that anyone teach you; 00:23:04.81\00:23:06.88 but as the same anointing teaches you 00:23:06.92\00:23:09.05 concerning all things, and is true, 00:23:09.08\00:23:11.19 and is not a lie, 00:23:11.22\00:23:12.65 and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him. " 00:23:12.69\00:23:16.19 James: That's talking about the Holy Spirit. 00:23:16.22\00:23:17.89 Jason: Hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:23:17.93\00:23:19.29 James: When the New Covenant says, 00:23:19.33\00:23:20.83 "We will not teach every man his neighbor, 00:23:20.86\00:23:22.20 and every man his brother, saying, 00:23:22.23\00:23:23.57 Know the Lord: we're all going to know Him. " 00:23:23.60\00:23:24.93 It's talking about the fact that the Holy Spirit 00:23:24.97\00:23:26.30 who is the Author of Scripture 00:23:26.33\00:23:27.67 is going to give an anointing to every single individual. 00:23:27.70\00:23:30.44 See, that's the road we're on, 00:23:30.47\00:23:32.74 God has called us as pastors and teachers 00:23:32.77\00:23:35.34 not to be the end of information and knowledge and truth 00:23:35.38\00:23:39.48 but to be a channel to information and knowledge 00:23:39.51\00:23:42.65 and truth, so that every single person 00:23:42.68\00:23:44.85 can actually go directly to God 00:23:44.89\00:23:46.76 through the anointing of the Holy Spirit. 00:23:46.79\00:23:48.59 Last night, we had a little session together... 00:23:48.62\00:23:50.56 a little Bible Study together 00:23:50.59\00:23:51.93 and we're talking about different topics 00:23:51.96\00:23:53.56 and we kept going back to the Word of God... 00:23:53.60\00:23:55.36 the Word of God... the Word of God 00:23:55.40\00:23:56.77 and people started having these "ah ha" moments 00:23:56.80\00:23:59.97 not because of anyone's... any person's teaching 00:24:00.00\00:24:02.37 but because of what the Word of God teaches, 00:24:02.40\00:24:04.31 you see what I'm saying? Yvonne: Yes. 00:24:04.34\00:24:05.67 James: So it's not like we don't need Pastors and Teachers 00:24:05.71\00:24:08.74 but it's like... if you've ever been sitting in a sermon... 00:24:08.78\00:24:10.88 you've been listening to this guy preaching the Word of God 00:24:10.91\00:24:12.98 and... and he's showing you verse by verse 00:24:13.01\00:24:14.98 the certain truth you want... "I see that!" 00:24:15.02\00:24:16.92 Yvonne: Yes! 00:24:16.95\00:24:18.29 James: It's not his stuff that you're seeing... 00:24:18.32\00:24:19.65 it's God's stuff that you're seeing 00:24:19.69\00:24:21.02 and it's the Holy Spirit that's teaching you. 00:24:21.06\00:24:22.39 Yvonne: Yes. James: That's the point 00:24:22.42\00:24:23.76 and the Little Horn Power 00:24:23.79\00:24:25.43 is against that part of the covenant too. 00:24:25.46\00:24:27.56 The Little Horn Power wants to say, "No, no, no, no, no... 00:24:27.60\00:24:30.10 you don't go to the Word of God to get your teaching, 00:24:30.13\00:24:32.10 you come to me to get your teaching... 00:24:32.13\00:24:33.97 you come to my traditions to get your teachings... " 00:24:34.00\00:24:35.74 you see that? Yvonne: Interesting, yes. 00:24:35.77\00:24:37.44 James: So, when we look at Daniel 11, 00:24:37.51\00:24:39.14 we're going to be entering into the Dark Ages 00:24:39.17\00:24:41.58 and in the Dark Ages, 00:24:41.61\00:24:43.24 the Bible was chained to the pulpit. 00:24:43.28\00:24:45.48 People couldn't read it... it was against the law, 00:24:45.51\00:24:47.62 it was forbidden to have a Bible... 00:24:47.65\00:24:49.05 you had to go to the Priest, you see what I'm saying? 00:24:49.08\00:24:51.05 All: Hmmm... 00:24:51.09\00:24:52.42 James: And this is an attack against the holy covenant. 00:24:52.45\00:24:54.82 Now, there are two more things here 00:24:54.86\00:24:56.42 that we just want to touch on because we're... 00:24:56.46\00:24:57.99 we're getting low on time but I... I think they're important. 00:24:58.03\00:25:00.70 In... in Hebrews chapter 8, yeah, chapter 8 again, 00:25:00.73\00:25:03.67 I just want us to slip back there to Hebrews chapter 8, 00:25:03.70\00:25:06.50 there's something that's repeated over and over again 00:25:06.53\00:25:09.30 when God gives this... 00:25:09.34\00:25:10.67 and I'm going to emphasize it, 00:25:10.71\00:25:12.04 I want to see if you can catch it. 00:25:12.07\00:25:13.41 It says in verse 10, 00:25:13.44\00:25:15.21 "For this is the covenant that I will make 00:25:15.24\00:25:17.55 with the house of Israel... 00:25:17.58\00:25:18.91 I will put the law in their hearts... 00:25:18.95\00:25:20.32 I will be their God... 00:25:20.35\00:25:21.68 I will be merciful to their unrighteousness... 00:25:21.72\00:25:24.02 I will remember their sins no more... " 00:25:24.05\00:25:25.55 who's the person that's doing all this? 00:25:25.62\00:25:26.96 All: God. James: It's God... okay... 00:25:26.99\00:25:28.79 Jason: Yeah, yeah. 00:25:28.82\00:25:30.16 James: So, this is all about what God does it... His power... 00:25:30.19\00:25:31.79 the New Covenant is His power... 00:25:31.83\00:25:33.29 the Old Covenant is our power... 00:25:33.33\00:25:34.66 the New Covenant is His power... 00:25:34.70\00:25:36.03 relying on God to do all of these things 00:25:36.06\00:25:39.23 and then it says... and this is the last one... 00:25:39.27\00:25:42.10 "I'll be their God... they'll be My people... " 00:25:42.14\00:25:44.41 and that's relationship. Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:25:44.44\00:25:46.17 So, when you go to the book of Daniel now 00:25:46.21\00:25:47.74 and you start all over again... 00:25:47.78\00:25:49.44 read it as though you're looking for the New Covenant. 00:25:49.48\00:25:51.51 You're looking for Daniel 00:25:51.55\00:25:52.88 and God's people have this relationship with Him 00:25:52.91\00:25:55.02 to be filled with His Spirit 00:25:55.05\00:25:56.48 so, they know all things... 00:25:56.52\00:25:57.85 they don't need anyone to teach them... any man to teach them 00:25:57.89\00:26:00.56 to trust in His power... not their power, right, 00:26:00.59\00:26:03.96 to have His law in their hearts 00:26:03.99\00:26:05.49 and have their sins and iniquities forgiven. 00:26:05.53\00:26:07.40 Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:26:07.43\00:26:08.76 Jason: That's really interesting 00:26:08.80\00:26:10.13 because in the beginning of Daniel, 00:26:10.17\00:26:11.50 they were trying to reprogram them, yeah, 00:26:11.53\00:26:15.14 with the wine... James: With the wine of Babylon. 00:26:15.17\00:26:17.51 Jason: Yes, and the whole education... educational system. 00:26:17.54\00:26:20.34 James: And Ivor brought that out with the wine of Babylon, 00:26:20.38\00:26:23.18 of course, is that spiritual wine 00:26:23.21\00:26:24.98 that is going to be poured out, not poured out 00:26:25.01\00:26:27.78 but offered to the world in the end of time... 00:26:27.82\00:26:30.59 the cup of wine 00:26:30.62\00:26:32.12 in the hand of the Babylonianish whore in Revelation chapter 17 00:26:32.15\00:26:36.83 is... the... the nations are made drunk with that... 00:26:36.86\00:26:39.59 with that wine... Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:26:39.63\00:26:40.96 James: Re-programming... 00:26:41.00\00:26:42.63 so, God wants to re-program us with His Word 00:26:42.66\00:26:44.93 and not with the teachings of man. 00:26:44.97\00:26:46.40 Yvonne: And the wine is doctrinal error? 00:26:46.43\00:26:48.24 James: Doctrinal error in the cup of the... the harlot 00:26:48.27\00:26:52.47 but Christ also uses that 00:26:52.51\00:26:54.98 to denote doctrinal truth... new wine. 00:26:55.01\00:26:57.71 Yvonne: Hmmm... Jason: hmmm... 00:26:57.75\00:26:59.11 James: The truth is also noted, you know, to be wine but... 00:26:59.15\00:27:01.28 but primarily in Revelation, we see the wine representing 00:27:01.32\00:27:04.75 the errors of the teachings of the harlot... definitely. 00:27:04.79\00:27:09.69 Ivor: Specifically, the book of Proverbs tells us, 00:27:09.72\00:27:12.86 "Do not drink wine, lest you drink and forget the law. " 00:27:12.89\00:27:19.63 James: Yes. Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:27:19.67\00:27:21.07 Ivor: The drinking of wine leads to forgetting the law 00:27:21.10\00:27:24.04 which is exactly what this Mystery Babylon Power 00:27:24.07\00:27:27.18 seeks to do... 00:27:27.24\00:27:28.64 it wants to lead the world to forget the law 00:27:28.68\00:27:30.61 and specifically one of God's commandments... 00:27:30.65\00:27:33.25 the one that He said to remember. 00:27:33.28\00:27:34.98 James: Yes. 00:27:35.02\00:27:36.45 Ivor: So, that becomes the central point... 00:27:36.48\00:27:37.95 the keeping of the commandments of God 00:27:37.99\00:27:41.32 and the testimony of Jesus in the last days 00:27:41.36\00:27:44.86 in the book of Revelation 00:27:44.89\00:27:46.33 and that's what Daniel is talking about here. 00:27:46.36\00:27:48.20 James: Hmmm... hmmm... Jason: Hmmm... 00:27:48.23\00:27:49.56 Yvonne: Wow! James: So, we're going to see 00:27:49.60\00:27:50.93 that's a vital connection you're making there 00:27:50.97\00:27:52.30 between Daniel and Revelation. 00:27:52.33\00:27:53.67 We're going to see that happen more and more 00:27:53.70\00:27:55.04 as we get into the rest of Daniel chapter 11 00:27:55.07\00:27:56.40 but for now, our time is all gone, 00:27:56.44\00:27:58.94 so, we'll pick this up in our next Session. 00:27:58.97\00:28:01.04