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James: Okay, so we are still
in Daniel chapter 10, Part 2.
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We left off with verse 12...
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we talked a little bit
about the difference between
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Daniel 10 and 9
in relationship to...
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to the prayer time
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and how quickly
Daniel's prayer was answered
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and right now, we're
going to find an answer to that,
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we're going to see why
it is that in Daniel 10,
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it took three weeks
for Daniel to get an answer
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whereas in Daniel 9,
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Daniel got an answer
before he even said, "Amen. "
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Yvonne: Hmmm... Jason: Hmmm...
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James: And what
we're going to see here...
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what we're going to unpack here
in the latter part of Daniel
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chapter 10, I think, is
going to be phenomenal for us
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as Christians in
our Christian walk...
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in our experience with the Lord,
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so, we should start
with a word of prayer,
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Ivor, would you
like to pray for us?
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Ivor: Yeah, let's do
that, "Heavenly Father,
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we just want to ask
Your presence to be with us
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as we continue
to study Your Word.
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We pray that You would
guide our understanding
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and... that You
would fill us Lord
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as we... as we
partake of this Word,
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we pray it in
Jesus' name, amen. "
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All: Amen.
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James: All right,
Jason, let's start here
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in Daniel chapter 10
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and would you read
for us verses 12 and 13?
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Jason: Sure...
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Jason: "Then he said to
me, 'Do not fear, Daniel,
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for from the first day that you
set your heart to understand,
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and to humble
yourself before your God,
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your words were heard;
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and I have come
because of your words.
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But the prince of
the kingdom of Persia
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withstood me twenty-one days;
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and behold, Michael,
one of the chief princes,
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came to help me,
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for I had been left alone there
with the kings of Persia. "
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James: All right
this is amazing...
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these two verses just
unpack for us a spiritual battle
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that's taking
place all around us...
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good angels and evil angels
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pressing in to influence
human beings to make decisions
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for or against God.
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Yvonne: That's what's
taking place right here.
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When you...
when you unpack this,
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what you're
finding is... is that
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as soon as Daniel began to pray,
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just like in Daniel 9,
God was sending the answer.
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As soon as he started praying,
God was sending an answer
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but Daniel is praying for
something specific right now.
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He's praying to understand
the latter end of this vision...
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the 2300 days, if you will,
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and the
cleansing of the sanctuary
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and one of the reasons
why he doesn't understand that
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is because it doesn't make sense
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in relationship to
the literal sanctuary
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and, of course, it doesn't
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because if the 2300-Day
prophecy is day for a year...
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that prophecy is going to
end in the 19th century...
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it's going to end
in... in the 1800s
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which we're
really going to unpack
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as we get into
Daniel chapter 12.
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So, Daniel is
seeking to understand this...
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he can't fully understand it
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and in the
context of that, he prays.
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Now, the reason why
his prayer is delayed...
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the answer to it
is delayed is because
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there are evil angels
that are trying to influence
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the kings of Persia.
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The prince of this
world and we know...
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Jesus tells us... the
prince of this word is Satan.
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Satan and his evil angels
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are trying to
influence human beings
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against God's
plan... so, God has a plan
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and the plan
starts, as we noted,
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with the going
forth of the commandment
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to restore and
rebuild Jerusalem.
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We looked at that
in Daniel chapter 9
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and let's just go back
there to Daniel chapter 9
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and notice something
really significant here
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that we needed just
to highlight a little bit
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in verse 25.
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It says, "Know
therefore and understand,
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that from the going
forth of the commandment
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to restore and build Jerusalem
unto Messiah the Prince
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shall be seven weeks,
and threescore and two weeks:
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the street shall be built again,
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and the wall, even
in troublous times. "
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Why seven weeks and
threescore and two weeks?
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that's a total of 69...
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because seven weeks is allotted
for the rebuilding of the city
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and the temple
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and it says here...
it's going to be rebuilt
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even in troublous times.
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What this is saying to us is
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that there is
going to be trouble
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surrounding the
rebuilding of the city
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and it's going to take seven
weeks... seven prophetic weeks
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which is 49 years
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for them to
accomplish this task.
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Where is the
trouble coming from?
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When we read Ezra...
when we read Nehemiah...
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we know the
trouble came partly from
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the people that were
left there in Palestine
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Sanballat and
some of the Samaritans
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who were opposing
the work of rebuilding
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but they were
inspired by... guess who?
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Yvonne: Satan.
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James: Satan, the prince
of the power of this world
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and his angels... and
that's why as Ivor mentioned
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in an earlier Session,
there were four decrees...
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four decrees were needed
because what you have here
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is, you have the
angels in Daniel chapter 10
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trying to influence
the kings of Medo-Persia
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against God's people
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and that's why
the decrees came forth
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and then they backed down
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and then they were reinstated
and then they backed out again
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and then they
were... they were enlarged...
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they went back and
forth... back and forth...
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what we see in Daniel chapter 10
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is a picture of the conflict
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that is taking place
between spiritual forces...
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good and bad...
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in the relationship to carrying
out God's prophetic will.
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Is that... is that seen here?
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Yvonne: This is
like great controversy.
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James: This is
the great controversy
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opened up for us
in Daniel chapter 10.
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Yvonne: Yeah...
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James: And it gives
us this "Ah ha moment"
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of "Wow! that's why my
prayers aren't answered
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necessarily right
away. " Yvonne: Hmmm.
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James: Because
there's no way that Daniel
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can really understand
the end of this vision
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if the vision hasn't
even been started yet.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: How can God give
him an understanding of the end
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if he can't get a start date?
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Yvonne: Right.
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James: So... so
God is influencing
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and you know the intensity
is so great that Gabriel says,
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"I wasn't prevailing
until Michael came...
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and when Michael
showed up, game over. "
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: When Michael showed
up, then we got the victory.
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Yvonne: Can we talk about
Michael for a moment because...
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because I have
trouble with the idea that
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Michael and Jesus are the same
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because Michael is
projected as an angel...
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I mean, to me,
and so... and so...
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and an angel is a created being
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but... but an
angel is also a messenger
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but... and so, it's
kind of... I don't know...
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I just need an explanation on...
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Jason: How is Jesus... Michael?
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James: Yeah, and that's...
that's a really good question.
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There are a couple of places
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where Michael's name is
mentioned in the New Testament,
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I think the first one
we might want to look at
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is in Revelation
because it connects with Daniel.
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Revelation chapter 12...
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Ivor, do you want
to read that for us?
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Revelation chapter 12 talks
about Michael the Archangel
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or Michael and His
angels, I should say...
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Jason: Verse 7?
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James: Yeah,
Revelation 12 verse 7.
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Ivor: All right,
Revelation 12 verse 7,
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"And there was war in heaven:
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Michael and his angels
fought against the dragon;
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and the dragon fought
and prevailed not... "
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James: So, explain this to
us, "Michael and his angels... "
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does that make Michael an angel?
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Pause...
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Yvonne: That's
what it sounds like.
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Jason: Michael and
His angels... hmmm...
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Ivor: Yeah, one thing that you
will see when you're looking at
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Michael in the Scriptures
is that most of the times
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with two exceptions
in Daniel chapter 10...
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every time
Michael's name is mentioned,
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it's in connection
with warfare with Satan.
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James: Hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: Wow! that's a good point.
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Ivor: So, this is
significant because
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pause...
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if... if Satan is the angel
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that God created...
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that is, you know,
the most powerful angel...
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the first of all the angels...
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pause...
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then Michael
would be that individual
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that is more
powerful than Satan.
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James: Hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: The name Michael
means the one who is as God.
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The word "Angel" it
simply means: Messenger
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so, I'll give
an example, Yvonne,
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in the book of Malachi,
I believe it's chapter...
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is it chapter 3 or 4, James?
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"Behold, I send
my messenger... "
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James: 4... or 3...
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3 talks about that too
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so, it depends on what the rest
of it is that you're saying.
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Ivor: So, the text is actually
speaking about John the Baptist.
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James: 4...
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Ivor: By preparing
the way for the Messiah.
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James: Right.
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Ivor: But... but
it... it actually the...
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the word for
Messenger is: angel.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: Now, we know that John
the Baptist is not an angel.
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Yvonne: Right.
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Ivor: Right, the word "Angel"
simply means "Messenger... "
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"Messenger... "
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so, when we talk about Michael
being the highest Messenger
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or the most important
Messenger from heaven,
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this is... what chapter was it?
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James: Three verse
one, Malachi 3 verse 1.
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Ivor: Yeah... do
you want to read that?
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"Behold, I will
send my messenger,
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and he shall
prepare the way before me:
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and the Lord, whom ye seek,
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shall suddenly
come to his temple,
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even the
messenger of the covenant,
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whom ye delight in:
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behold, he shall come,
saith the Lord of hosts. "
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But I think that is
talking about Christ.
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Ivor: Okay, that's not the...
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James: The one that you're
thinking about is Malachi 4
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where it says, "Behold, I
send you Elijah the prophet... "
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Ivor: Yes.
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James: Who in the New
Testament is God's messenger.
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Ivor: Yeah,
exactly... in Malachi 3...
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that
"Messenger" is clearly Jesus
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and the word used is "Angel. "
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James: Yeah, it is, you're right
the word used is angel, yeah.
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Ivor: See what I'm
saying? James: Yeah.
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Ivor: So, even the
Bible is calling Jesus...
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yeah, even the Bible is
calling Jesus an angel, right.
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James: Yeah.
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Ivor: Meaning a created being
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or the word
"angel" is to be understood
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not just solely as a
created being like Gabriel
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but a messenger.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: And I
would think, you know,
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we understand Jesus
is not a "created being"
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an angel in that sense...
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He is an angel in the
sense of the highest messenger
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to come from heaven.
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James: Gotcha...
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: But Jesus became a man
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but that doesn't
mean He's not God.
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Just because He became a man
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doesn't make
Him a created being.
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Yvonne: So, He takes on the
form of an angel... is that...
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James: Well, the Holy Spirit
took on the form of a dove
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and God took on the
form of a burning bush
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so, God can do anything He
wants to... and still be God.
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Yvonne: Right.
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James: He can be a
man... He can be an angel...
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a messenger...
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He can come as a
form of a dove...
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He can come in the
form of a burning bush...
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but He's still God...
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Yvonne: Right...
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James: And a lot of times,
Christians, we're afraid...
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what's that?
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Ivor: Uncreated.
James: An uncreated...
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we're afraid to let God
appear in whatever form He wants
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because then we turn Him
into some kind of created being
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but that's not what we
see throughout the Bible.
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God's steward means...
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God, no matter
what form He comes in...
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we just need to identify Him
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and Michael
identifies Himself...
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in fact, Michael's
called the Archangel
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and some people say,
"Oh, see, He's an angel... "
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no... "Arch" means chief...
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He's the chief of the angels,
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that's why it says
in... in... in Revelation 12,
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"Michael and His
angels... " they're His angels.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: He is the Creator...
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He's in charge of the angels
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but He's not
Himself a created being.
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Yvonne: Right.
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James: He is
God... Christ is God.
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Yvonne: Right...
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Ivor: So, when
the Bible talks about
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in Thessalonians
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that the Lord shall descend
from heaven with a shout,
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with the voice
of the Archangel...
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Yvonne: It is not saying that
when Jesus descends, you know,
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He... He needs the
voice of the Archangel...
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you know, to help Him
like some other angel...
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that's His voice.
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James: Yeah, John
5 tells us that...
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John 5:28 and 29.
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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"They'll hear My
voice" Jesus says
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"and they'll rise
up... " so... 1st...
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1st Thessalonians
4:16 is talking about
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the Archangel is
the voice of Christ.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
hmmm... Ivor: Yes.
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James: So, Michael is Christ
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but He's not a created being.
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Yvonne: Right. Ivor: Right.
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James: And when it says,
"He's one of the chief Princes"
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there's two others... the
Holy Spirit and the Father.
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They together
make up the Godhead.
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They are the Trinity...
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They are God
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and Jesus Christ the Son of
God comes in the form of a man
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but He still
maintains His divinity.
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So, we still believe
that Christ is Divine
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even though He came
in the form of a man.
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Yvonne: Oh yeah.
James: We hold to that
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because that is Biblical truth.
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"The Word became flesh...
the Word was with God...
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the Word was God...
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the Word became
flesh and dwelt among us
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and we beheld His glory. "
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James: So, I hope
that helps is that... yeah.
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Yvonne: Yes, that
does help, thank you.
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James: There's harmony in
all of the Scriptures here
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but what I love about this is...
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it clearly shows how Michael...
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how Christ is
interacting with Planet Earth...
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how He's
engaging with Gabriel...
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engaging with the
angels in our behalf...
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even before His death...
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even before His crucifixion
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and what's really
powerful about this is,
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"Okay, we're
talking about the fact
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that there's a
struggle going forth
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even for God to
carry out His plans, okay.
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He wants a decree to go forth...
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in... in Daniel we've been told
in chapter 9 and verse 24... 25,
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as soon as that
decree goes forth
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from that time
until Messiah is 69 weeks.
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Messiah is going to
come and when He's anointed,
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He's going to preach the
gospel for 3 and 1/2 years...
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then in the middle of the
week, He's going to die...
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in the midst of the
week He's going to be cut off
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but not for Himself.
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So, Satan is coming...
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He's trying to hinder
that decree from going forth
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and so, you have four decrees
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and we have
Sanballat and others in Samaria
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trying to hinder
the work of the building
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and there's troublous times
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and Nehemiah goes
there and Ezra goes there
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and there's all this
conflict taking place...
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there's great controversy...
you're following me?
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: And then
Michael comes in and He says,
00:14:45.71\00:14:47.05
"We've got to get
this decree going forth
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because I need
to come and die. "
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Jason: Hmmm...
00:14:50.49\00:14:51.89
Yvonne: Hmmm...
wow... Jason: Yeah...
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James: When I think
about that... Michael is...
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is helping
Gabriel to start a decree
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that's going to
lead Him to Calvary.
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Jason: Wow! Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:15:03.10\00:15:04.70
James: And that just
breaks my heart right there...
00:15:04.73\00:15:06.07
I'm just like, "Whoa... "
00:15:06.10\00:15:07.44
Yvonne: Amen, that is so
deep. James: Praise the Lord.
00:15:07.47\00:15:09.34
So, we don't want to be arguing
about Michael... is He Christ
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or isn't He Christ...
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is He Creator or
isn't He created?
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We want to focus on
this picture of love
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that's revealed right here
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because when God
says to Daniel...
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when Christ says to Daniel...
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when Gabriel says to Daniel,
"You are greatly beloved... "
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He proves it.
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The very picture that
we're seeing right here
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in Daniel
chapter 10 proves that.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... Jason: Hmmm...
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James: Because
He's coming to make sure
00:15:31.79\00:15:33.13
we're going to be taken care of
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even at the
sacrifice of His own life.
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Yvonne: Wow! Jason: Man!
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James: Isn't that
a beautiful picture?
00:15:37.67\00:15:39.00
Jason: Yes. Yvonne: Beautiful.
00:15:39.03\00:15:40.37
Ivor: Just
another thought on that is
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the idea that...
God doesn't say, "Look,
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this is My will...
this is what I want
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and I'm going to
force you to do it. "
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James: Hmmm...
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: You know,
00:15:58.52\00:16:00.86
how are the angels
wrestling with human beings
00:16:00.89\00:16:04.73
for three weeks?
00:16:04.76\00:16:06.39
James: Hmmm...
00:16:06.43\00:16:08.03
Ivor: That to me is just...
00:16:08.06\00:16:09.80
you know,
00:16:09.83\00:16:12.93
love cannot be forced, right?
00:16:13.00\00:16:14.60
James: Right. Yvonne: Yes.
00:16:14.64\00:16:16.20
James: It's... it's... yeah.
00:16:16.27\00:16:17.77
Ivor: Here God is
respecting human...
00:16:17.81\00:16:22.08
the free will...
that's just powerful.
00:16:22.11\00:16:25.21
James: Hmmm...
hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:16:25.25\00:16:28.25
Ivor: You know, so, whatever
happened when Michael came,
00:16:28.28\00:16:31.02
was not by force
00:16:31.05\00:16:34.22
but somebody's heart
was wanting to do something.
00:16:34.26\00:16:38.06
James: Hmmm...
hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:16:38.09\00:16:40.20
Ivor: You know, so, again
I think it's just an amazing
00:16:40.23\00:16:42.33
thought how God...
00:16:42.36\00:16:43.70
how heaven does
not override and demand
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but works with us, you
know, in our frailty...
00:16:50.57\00:16:56.01
influencing us,
00:16:56.04\00:16:58.48
you know, trying to
woo us to do what is right.
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James: Hmmm...
hmmm... Yvonne: Yes... yes.
00:17:02.25\00:17:04.05
James: That's
powerful, you know,
00:17:04.09\00:17:06.45
just... just
another example of that...
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so, Daniel chapter 10 begins
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with the third year of
Cyrus, the King of Persia.
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You know, the Medo-Persians
were a united power
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and the Persians came up last...
that's what it says in...
00:17:19.87\00:17:23.61
in Daniel chapter 8... you know,
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the "higher" came up last.
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So, it starts with the Medes...
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Darius and I
think he reigned as...
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as Babylon fell
for maybe a year or two
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and then Cyrus comes in
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and Cyrus was the one that
was really behind the whole
00:17:36.28\00:17:39.02
adventure to take down Babylon.
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He was the King of the Persians
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but the Persians were really
the stronger of the two Powers,
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so, we're not sure...
00:17:46.83\00:17:48.26
you know, there's not
really a record about Darius...
00:17:48.30\00:17:50.90
we're not sure if
he was just, you know,
00:17:50.93\00:17:52.73
graciously allowed to
reign for a year or two
00:17:52.77\00:17:55.00
before he died... he
was 62 when he started
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but we know that
Cyrus was the key guy.
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Now, there's a
prophecy that we looked at
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and I just wanted to
touch on it again in Isaiah 45
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and this prophecy is
a prophecy about Cyrus
00:18:05.45\00:18:08.78
and it's one that I
believe was probably shown him
00:18:08.82\00:18:11.72
by some Hebrew
Scholars back in his day.
00:18:11.75\00:18:17.26
Isaiah was a
pre-prophet to the Exile...
00:18:17.29\00:18:22.73
he was a pre-Exile prophet
00:18:22.76\00:18:26.07
so, before the Exile,
00:18:26.10\00:18:28.77
Isaiah gave these
prophecies... these predictions
00:18:28.80\00:18:31.57
and the one in
Isaiah 45 is specific.
00:18:31.61\00:18:35.01
Let's just read
here, if you would, Yvonne,
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would you read
Isaiah 45 verse 1?
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Yvonne: Yes...
00:18:40.18\00:18:41.52
"Thus says the
Lord to His anointed,
00:18:41.55\00:18:43.65
to Cyrus, whose
right hand I have held...
00:18:43.69\00:18:46.09
to subdue nations before him
and loose the armor of kings,
00:18:46.12\00:18:49.89
to open before
him the double doors,
00:18:49.92\00:18:52.43
so that the gates
will not be shut... "
00:18:52.46\00:18:54.26
James: This is an incredible
prophecy fulfilled in Daniel...
00:18:54.30\00:18:59.27
can you read Daniel
chapter 5 verse 6 for us, Jason?
00:18:59.30\00:19:00.84
Jason: Sure.
00:19:00.87\00:19:02.24
James: This was fulfilled in
Daniel chapter 5 and verse 6,
00:19:02.27\00:19:05.51
I want you to notice
here some of the specifics.
00:19:05.57\00:19:08.61
Jason: "Then the
king's countenance changed,
00:19:08.64\00:19:11.68
and his thoughts troubled him,
00:19:11.71\00:19:13.21
so that the joints
of his hips were loosed
00:19:13.25\00:19:15.52
and his knees
knocked against each other. "
00:19:15.55\00:19:17.75
James: Okay, "I will
loose the loins of kings... "
00:19:17.79\00:19:20.19
is what the King James says...
00:19:20.22\00:19:21.56
there's the
fulfillment in Daniel 5:6
00:19:21.59\00:19:24.16
and we know also that
the Persians diverted...
00:19:24.19\00:19:27.53
the Medo-Persians diverted
the waters of the Euphrates
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and they went in
through that riverbed
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and the gates were unlocked
and they were able to get in
00:19:34.84\00:19:37.67
to take Babylon
down in one night.
00:19:37.71\00:19:39.97
So, just think about this...
00:19:40.01\00:19:42.24
Isaiah writes this
prophecy before Cyrus is born.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... wow!
00:19:45.88\00:19:48.55
James: Now God
is going to do what
00:19:48.58\00:19:51.19
to get Cyrus'
parents to name him Cyrus?
00:19:51.22\00:19:54.39
You know, when Jesus was born,
00:19:54.42\00:19:58.16
his parents were
told what to name Him.
00:19:58.19\00:19:59.93
Yvonne: Right.
00:19:59.96\00:20:01.30
James: When John
the Baptist was born,
00:20:01.33\00:20:02.66
his parents were
told what to name him.
00:20:02.70\00:20:04.03
Yvonne: Right.
00:20:04.07\00:20:05.40
James: There was no
"John" in the line of Zechariah
00:20:05.43\00:20:08.07
and so, it's interesting because
00:20:08.10\00:20:10.17
God influenced and
talked directly to Mary
00:20:10.21\00:20:13.98
and directly to Elizabeth
00:20:14.01\00:20:15.34
and God also spoke
directly to Cyrus' parents.
00:20:15.38\00:20:18.88
Yvonne: Hmmm... Jason: Hmmm...
00:20:18.91\00:20:20.25
James: It would have
been strongly impressed
00:20:20.28\00:20:22.22
to do something or say something
00:20:22.25\00:20:24.25
or... this is what
God does all the time
00:20:24.29\00:20:26.89
and Satan also does this
00:20:26.92\00:20:28.56
and this is what we're
seeing in Daniel chapter 10.
00:20:28.59\00:20:31.43
We're seeing evil
angels trying to influence
00:20:31.49\00:20:34.40
and so you see the
decree not get... going out
00:20:34.43\00:20:37.13
or you see it being diminished
00:20:37.17\00:20:38.50
or you see it begin retracted
00:20:38.53\00:20:39.87
and then you see God
coming in with Michael
00:20:39.90\00:20:42.50
and you see the
decree going forth
00:20:42.54\00:20:43.87
and you see it being enlarged
00:20:43.91\00:20:45.24
and you see it being forced...
do you see what I'm saying?
00:20:45.27\00:20:46.68
Yvonne: Yes... yes.
00:20:46.71\00:20:48.11
James: But like Ivor
said... God is a Gentleman...
00:20:48.14\00:20:50.05
God is seeking to influence
00:20:50.08\00:20:52.55
but He's not going to
override our decisions.
00:20:52.58\00:20:54.38
Yvonne: Right. Jason: Hmmm...
00:20:54.42\00:20:55.75
James: He will overrule some
of the bad decisions we make
00:20:55.78\00:20:57.29
but He's going to
let us make choices
00:20:57.32\00:20:59.75
and He's going to let
us reap the consequences
00:20:59.79\00:21:01.52
of those choices
00:21:01.56\00:21:02.89
unless, of course,
we reach out to Him
00:21:02.92\00:21:04.79
or sometimes, God's
people reach out to Him
00:21:04.83\00:21:07.03
and say, "Could you thwart
00:21:07.06\00:21:08.43
the decisions
they've made against us?"
00:21:08.46\00:21:10.43
You know, we see
that with Mordecai...
00:21:10.47\00:21:12.40
and what happened there?
00:21:12.43\00:21:13.77
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:21:13.80\00:21:15.14
James: And so, it's
vital for us to recognize
00:21:15.17\00:21:17.51
that Daniel chapter 10 is
calling us to earnest prayer.
00:21:17.57\00:21:21.54
Not the kind of prayer that
gives up on God after a week...
00:21:21.58\00:21:25.51
after a couple of times...
00:21:25.55\00:21:27.42
but the prayer
that just continues
00:21:27.48\00:21:29.02
to supplicate the throne of God.
00:21:29.05\00:21:30.42
Yvonne: That's so
important, I think,
00:21:30.45\00:21:31.95
perseverance in prayer
00:21:32.02\00:21:33.36
because sometimes you can just
pray and... and you can't...
00:21:33.39\00:21:36.36
there have been
times when I've prayed
00:21:36.39\00:21:38.03
and I just
can't feel anything...
00:21:38.06\00:21:40.03
hear anything... it's just...
00:21:40.06\00:21:41.93
and then there are other
times where you just feel like
00:21:41.96\00:21:44.70
God is so near,
you know, and so, yeah
00:21:44.73\00:21:48.04
but I wanted to bring out
Isaiah 45:1, Pastor James,
00:21:48.07\00:21:52.44
because this is
really... it's interesting...
00:21:52.47\00:21:54.74
He called Cyrus His anointed...
00:21:54.81\00:21:57.48
James: Hmmm...
hmmm... Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:21:57.51\00:21:59.28
Yvonne: That's
really deep, isn't it?
00:21:59.31\00:22:00.65
James: Yeah.
00:22:00.68\00:22:02.02
Yvonne: Because he's
not of the tribe of Israel,
00:22:02.05\00:22:05.89
he is a Persian King
00:22:05.92\00:22:08.42
and he's called: His anointed...
00:22:08.46\00:22:10.99
whose right hand I have held...
00:22:11.03\00:22:13.53
that means, I have helped
him through all these different
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situations... that is so...
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God is so... I
just... I get so excited...
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because God is so awesome.
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James: And
Cyrus got excited too.
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Yvonne: Yeah.
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James: When he...
when this prophecy was...
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was pointed out to him,
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he got excited
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and that's, I think,
part of what motivated him
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to be so
gracious to God's people
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because he saw the
hand of God... their God...
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Hebrew God... upon him
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and he responded to that.
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Jason: That makes me think of
many sheep of a different fold.
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James: Many sheep that I've
got which are not of this fold.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
hmmm... Jason: Yeah... yeah.
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James: But what's really
interesting about this is...
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this is not unique to Cyrus.
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Cyrus was anointed
for a specific mission
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and a specific time
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but God has been gracious
to all people at all times.
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Yvonne: Yes.
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James: In... in the
New Testament we're told
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in Matthew chapter 5
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that God sends His rain
on the just and on the unjust
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and His sunshine on
the good and on the evil.
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Now, when I was
living in Oregon,
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I didn't take rain
as a positive thing.
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All: Laughter.
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James: I lived
there for 15 years
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and I lived in Eugene
which is "Duck Country"
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the Oregon ducks, you know,
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and I still have
webbed feet to some degree...
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but now I'm living
in Fresno, California...
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and in that location,
I'm praying for rain...
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no, literally, I'm
praying for rain, really? yes
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because there's
not a lot of rain there
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and it... it's a 100
degrees for months at a time...
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June... July...
August... even September
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and when we moved
there, it was really hot
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and just last month I
started praying for rain
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and you know what happened?
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six to ten feet of snow
got dumped in the Sierras...
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we're at the
footholds of the Sierras
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and six to ten inches of snow
got dumped in a place called
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Northfork. So, I was
just saying, "Praise the Lord.
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Praise the Lord... "
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You know, I... I
think in the Old Testament
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they were more
inclined to pray for rain
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and to pray for God
to work with the elements
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because they...
they recognized...
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today, we're like...
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"Ah, we can put some
water aside in a reservoir...
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we can do
this... we can do that...
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and we don't... "
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and we're not as
dependent upon God.
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Yvonne: Right.
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James: But God is
reminding us in Matthew...
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He sends His rain...
He sends His sunshine...
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and on the good
and on the evil...
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on the just and on the unjust...
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God is gracious to
all men... to all people
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and He is seeking by
all means to reach some
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whether some
would respond to Him...
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He's seeking by all
means to reach all...
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He's hoping that some
will respond to Him...
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that they would respond to Him.
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James: So, this is
a powerful picture,
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let's just finish it out.
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Daniel chapter 10
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and we haven't finished
verses 14 and onwards...
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so, let's just read
through these verses
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and there's a
few more points here
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that we can make as we
read through these verses,
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Jason, would you
like to lead us out here
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starting with verse 14?
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Jason: "Now I have
come to make you understand
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what will happen to your
people in the latter days,
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for the vision refers
to many days yet to come. "
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James: All right,
let's stop right there,
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so, remember, Daniel
is trying to understand
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more fully the 2300-Day prophecy
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and the
cleansing of the sanctuary
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and God is kind
of slipping in...
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you know, I haven't
really mentioned the latter part
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of the prophecy yet...
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in Daniel 9, "I
expounded the 70 weeks
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but the latter part
isn't clear in your mind yet
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is it, Daniel?" "No"
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"Well, I'm going
to show you more about
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what's going to happen to your
people in the latter days...
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in the end of time... "
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and so, all of that
is yet to be unfolded.
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We're going to be
looking at that in more detail
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when we get further
down in the book of Daniel.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: And verse 15...
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Jason: 15... "When he
had spoken such words to me,
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I turned my face toward the
ground and became speechless.
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And suddenly, one having
the likeness of the sons of men
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touched my lips;
00:25:45.07\00:25:46.41
then I opened
my mouth and spoke,
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saying to him
who stood before me,
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'My lord, because of the vision
my sorrows have overwhelmed me,
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and I have retained no strength.
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For how can this servant of
my lord talk with you, my lord?
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As for me, no
strength remains in me now,
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nor is any breath left in me. '"
00:26:04.73\00:26:07.03
James: All right,
let's stop right there,
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what we saw in the
first part of this vision,
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where Daniel says,
"there was no comeliness in me,
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and I retained no strength... "
is now repeated two more times.
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James: "I retained no strength,
I retained no strength...
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how can I
talk... how can I talk?"
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We need that
attitude... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: The Laodiceans
don't have this attitude...
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they've got lots to say,
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they're rich...
increased with goods
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and have need of nothing...
that's our natural inclination,
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that's my natural inclination.
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Daniel is
continually reminding the Lord,
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"I don't have any
strength... I can't speak...
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there's nothing I
can do... I'm dumb...
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I need you to touch me... "
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and God touches
him... notice this.
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Jason: So... James: Verse 18.
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Ivor: Verse 18...
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"Then again, the one
having the likeness of a man
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touched me and strengthened me.
00:26:48.24\00:26:50.14
And he said, 'O
man greatly beloved,
00:26:50.17\00:26:52.94
fear not!
00:26:52.97\00:26:54.31
Peace be to you; be
strong yes, be strong!"
00:26:54.34\00:26:57.28
So when he spoke to me I
was strengthened, and said,
00:26:57.35\00:27:00.25
'Let my lord speak, for
you have strengthened me. '
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Then he said, 'Do you
know why I have come to you?
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And now I must return to
fight with the prince of Persia;
00:27:06.99\00:27:10.73
and when I have gone forth,
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indeed the prince
of Greece will come.
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But I will tell you what is
noted in the Scripture of Truth.
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No one upholds me against these,
except Michael your prince. '"
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Should I start until...?
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James: No, we'll
stop right there,
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we're going to close with this
thought... and it's so powerful.
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We are greatly beloved
even though we have no strength.
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James: And the more we recognize
that we have no strength,
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the more God comes
to strengthen us...
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the more we
acknowledge our weakness,
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the more God comes to
touch us and to give us strength
00:27:37.95\00:27:40.12
and to promise us that He is
going to give us understanding
00:27:40.16\00:27:43.89
of these things...
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of these truths that we
need to know so desperately.
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So, that's the promise we have
as we move into chapter 11...
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we're going to need it.
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