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James: Okay, we are back
and we're in Daniel chapter 10.
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We did four
sessions in Daniel chapter 9
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and we're actually going
to visit it a little bit more
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in chapter 10 because
there's some connections
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that we want to make...
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but I just want to say before
we start with a word of prayer
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that chapter 10 is probably one
of the most overlooked chapters
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in the book of Daniel.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: A lot of people are
really into the prophecies,
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that's where the
meat is, you know,
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and even into the
stories... and Daniel chapter 10
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seems like it's just
kind of an intro Daniel 11
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and the King of the
North and the King of the South
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and a lot of people
kind of overlook it.
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We're not going to do that.
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We could just
spend a meeting on this
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and just go
through it really quickly
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but there are some
powerful insights here
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that we want to consider.
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I would say that if the rest
of the prophetic book of Daniel
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is like the meat...
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then, Daniel 10 is
like the vegetables.
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Yvonne: Ah!
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James: And we
need our vegetables.
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Yvonne: We do...
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James: We need our vegetables
for good bones... for good blood
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and we're going to
find a lot of vegetables...
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a lot of
broccoli... a lot of greens
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in Daniel chapter 10.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: Just a quick overview...
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we're going to see that
it starts with this picture
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of Daniel in
prayer... just like Daniel 9
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but there's going to
be a difference this time
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and then we see
two heavenly beings...
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one is Christ
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and we're going to identify
Him as we compare Daniel 10
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with Revelation
chapter 1 and 2 and 10,
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and the other one is Gabriel
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and Gabriel is the one
that communicates to Daniel
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and tells Daniel above
all that he's greatly beloved
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and then we're going to
look into a spiritual conflict
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that takes place
between the powers of darkness
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and the powers of light...
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a conflict that's taking
place all around us right now
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and then we're going
to kind of close this out
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as it introduces us into
the next chapter Daniel 11
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and the King of the
North and the King of the South
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which is the final prophetic
vision of the book of Daniel.
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So, there's a lot
here for us to consider
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and a lot here for us to study
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and, of course, we need to
start with a word of prayer.
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Yvonne, would you
like to pray for us?
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Yvonne: Sure... sure...
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Yvonne: "Dear Lord,
we thank you so very much
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that You've brought
us together once again
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to study Your Word and to
learn more about... about You
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because Your
Word testifies of You
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so, we thank You so very much
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and we just pray for
Your guidance and direction...
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Your leadership... You
are welcome in this place,
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in Jesus' name we pray, amen. "
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All: Amen.
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James: So, Daniel chapter
10 begins in a very similar way
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that Daniel 9 began.
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It begins with Daniel praying.
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Let's just look at
these verses, Jason,
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Daniel chapter 10, if
you could read them for us,
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verses 1, 2 and 3.
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Jason: Okay.
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"In the third year
of Cyrus king of Persia
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a message was
revealed to Daniel,
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whose name was
called Belteshazzar.
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The message was true,
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but the appointed time was long;
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and he understood the message,
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and had
understanding of the vision.
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In those days I, Daniel,
was mourning three full weeks.
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I ate no pleasant food,
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no meat or wine
came into my mouth,
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nor did I anoint myself at all,
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till three whole
weeks were fulfilled. "
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James: So, Daniel here is
in another state of affliction.
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He is seeking the Lord
and... and it says here...
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he is doing this
for three full weeks.
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Now, if you
remember Daniel chapter 9,
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Daniel is praying... and by the
time he's done with his prayer,
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by the time he says, "Amen"
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even before he says "amen"
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while he's still
speaking, who shows up?
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Yvonne: Gabriel. James: Gabriel.
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Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: Now, Daniel here
has been praying for a day...
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for a week...
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for two weeks...
for three weeks...
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and guess what?
There is no Gabriel.
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There's no answer
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and I think it's
really significant for us
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because, again,
Daniel chapter 10
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is this "vegetable"
section of the book of Daniel.
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It's not the meat
and the prophecy...
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it's the "Experience and
the Relationship" Section.
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It's where we get our strength.
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We need to recognize that
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even Daniel who had his
prayer answered instantly
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in Daniel chapter 9... had
to wait in Daniel chapter 10.
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Did you ever have
to wait on the Lord?
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Jason: Yes... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: And be of good courage?
Jason: Yes. Yvonne: Hmmm.
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James: Until He strengthens
your heart? Yvonne: Yes.
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James: Wait, I say,
on the Lord. Yvonne: Yes.
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James: This is
what Daniel is doing...
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this is what Elijah had to do...
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there were times when your
prayers are answered instantly
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like, when Elijah prayed
and that fire from heaven
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and then that fire
came down from heaven
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and then he turns
around and he prays for rain
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and he prays once...
and he prays twice...
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and he prays three times...
and he prays four times...
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and he prays five
times and he prays six times
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are you with me?
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Jason: Ah ha... Yvonne: Yeah.
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There are times when...
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and I believe that
this is why we have this
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in the book of... of Daniel...
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there are times
when we don't hear
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our answers to
our prayers from God.
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It's... it's like
heaven is shut up...
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Yvonne: Yes...
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James: It's like our
prayers aren't going any higher
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than the ceiling
and we're wondering
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where is God?
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Now, the reason why
Daniel 10 is so significant is
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not just because
it helps us to realize
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this truth... this
reality in our experience
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but also, because it
gives us the reason why
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this prayer isn't
answered right away.
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Jason: Hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: And we're going to
see that in the later verses...
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we're not going to
look at that right now
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because that's going
to open up a whole chapter
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of Revelation to us
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in relationship to
the book of Daniel...
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the book of Revelation
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and this whole great controversy
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that we're
involved in as human beings.
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So, just that...
just that nugget...
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to have that nugget
in our brains as we go on
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and read a few
more verses here...
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let's read...
Yvonne... could you read for us
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chapter 10 verses 4
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and all the way
through verse 6, please.
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Yvonne: "Now on
the twenty-fourth day
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of the first month,
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as I was by the
side of the great river,
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that is, the Tigris,
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I lifted my eyes and looked,
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and behold, a
certain man clothed in linen,
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whose waist was
girded with gold of Uphaz!
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His body was like beryl,
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his face like the
appearance of lightning,
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his eyes like torches of fire,
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his arms and feet like
burnished bronze in color,
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and the sound of his words
like the voice of a multitude. "
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James: Whoa! Jason:
Hmmm... Yvonne: Nice.
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James: Have you heard
a description like this
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somewhere else in the Bible?
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Jason: Somewhere in Revelation.
James: Somewhere in Revelation,
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we did a whole
Series on Revelation.
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Yvonne: Right.
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James: So, remember
Revelation chapter 1?
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Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: John sees the
Son of Man who is Jesus.
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Let's just look at
those verses real quick.
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In Revelation chapter 1
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and I think if we
start in verse 12,
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we'll be able to pick
up this same basic picture.
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Ivor: I can read that.
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James: Can you, Ivor, please?
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Ivor: Yeah, so,
Revelation 1 verse 12.
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It says, "And I turned to see
the voice that spake with me.
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And being turned, I saw
seven golden candlesticks;
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and in the midst of
the seven candlesticks
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one like unto the Son of Man,
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clothed with a
garment down to the foot,
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and girt about the
paps with a golden girdle.
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His head and His
hair were white like wool,
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as white as snow;
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and His eyes were
as a flame of fire;
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and His feet
like unto fine brass,
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as if they burned in a furnace;
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and His voice as the
sound of many waters. "
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
hmmm... James: Verse 16.
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Ivor: "He had in His
right hand seven stars:
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and out of His mouth
went a sharp two-edged sword:
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and His countenance was as the
sun shineth in His strength. "
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James: Look at that.
Jason: Wow! Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: This
description is almost identical.
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The certain man in Daniel 10
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is the Son of Man in
Revelation chapter 1.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
hmmm... Jason: Hmmm...
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James: And then if you
look in Revelation chapter 2
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and verse 18,
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Jason, would you read
that verse for us... 2:18?
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Jason: Sure thing...
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"And to the angel of the
church in Thyatira write,
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'These things
says the Son of God,
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who has eyes
like a flame of fire,
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and His feet
like fine brass... '"
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James: So, here now, He is
identified as the Son of God.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: So, we
have the Son of God...
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we have the Son of Man...
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we have a Certain Man...
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all of them are the same
being, this is Jesus Christ
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and we know this
because in Revelation chapter 1,
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after John sees Jesus
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in what I'm going to
call: this glorified state...
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he falls down...
it says in verse 17,
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"And when I saw Him, I
fell at His feet as dead.
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And He laid His right
hand upon me saying unto me,
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'Fear not... I am the
First and the Last. '"
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Now, look what
happens in Daniel chapter 10.
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Yvonne, could you read
further for us in Daniel 10
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verses 7 and 8?
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Yvonne: Sure...
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"And I, Daniel,
alone saw the vision,
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for the men who were with
me did not see the vision;
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but a great
terror fell upon them,
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so that they fled
to hide themselves.
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Therefore I was left alone
when I saw this great vision,
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and no strength remained in me;
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for my vigor was
turned to frailty in me,
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and I retained no strength. "
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James: So, the same
thing happens to Daniel
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as what happens to John.
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John falls down as though dead.
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Daniel says, "All of my goodness
has turned into corruption... "
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Yvonne: Yes...
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James: Can you
imagine that? Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: "Not me... " I can
imagine that about myself,
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I can imagine
that about Jason...
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All: Laughter...
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James: Can you
imagine that about Daniel?
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I mean, this guy
was so perfect...
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he stood faultless
before his enemies...
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in a political environment,
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they couldn't get any dirt on
him, you know what I'm saying?
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Jason: Yeah...
man! that's hard to say.
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James: But when
he sees Jesus, he...
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"there's no goodness in me...
there's no righteous in me. "
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See, that is one of the things
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we need to
understand as Christians.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: Sometimes as Christians,
we can be overwhelmed
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with our unworthiness...
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we can be overwhelmed
with our unrighteousness...
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we can be
overwhelmed with our failure
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to live up to the
character of Jesus Christ
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especially when we
have our eyes on the Savior.
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A lot of times, the reason
why people... Christian people
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feel so self-righteous...
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they feel that
they're better than others,
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is because they have
their eyes on other people
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and they're comparing
themselves with other people
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and their life seems
better than everyone else's
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but the fact of the matter is...
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the Bible tells us that all we
have sinned and gone astray...
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we've turned, every
one, to his to his own way...
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there's none
righteous... no not one.
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Yeah, Romans chapter
3 verse 9 tell us that
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and in Romans chapter 1...
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every sin... including
gossip and disobedience
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and homosexuality...
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and... and murders and liars...
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all of them are lumped
into this same category.
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We can't put any of those
sins in some special category
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and say, "Well,
this is a special sin
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but my gossiping
isn't that bad. "
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Yvonne: Right.
Jason: Ah... ah...
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James: No... you've got...
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liars are going to be
outside the kingdom of God.
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Liars are going to
be outside the Holy City
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we're told in
Revelation chapter 22...
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so, what Daniel is
realizing here is...
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pfooh... we're
all in the same place.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: Yeah... this... this
is really interesting, James,
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because I have some
things going on right now
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so, you're all
going to build with me...
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look at what's happening...
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in Daniel 8, right, he
is... Daniel's given the vision
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and remember this is...
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he's given the vision
of this 2300 days, right,
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Ram... he-goat...
then this Little Horn...
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2300 days... then shall
the sanctuary be cleansed
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and what you have
happening in Daniel 9
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is... he prays
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and the angel comes
immediately like you said
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and he answers
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by talking about the
first part of this 2300 days.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: The 70 weeks...
James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: And if we look at
what was happening before that,
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Daniel is praying and
he's confessing his sins...
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it's almost like... he
becomes Corporate Israel
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asking for the
forgiveness of sins, right?
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James: Hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: Confessing their sins
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and the angel comes
immediately and speaks to him
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about this 70 weeks.
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"This is
pertaining to your people...
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this is for you all right now...
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you need to
understand this now. "
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Then we get to Daniel 10...
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remember the angel
doesn't even go into detail
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about that 2300 days.
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James: Right... the end of it.
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Ivor: The end of
it, right. James: Yeah.
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Ivor: Now we get to Daniel
10 and he's praying again...
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this time the angel's
like, "We're going to wait... "
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right?
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Not... not intentionally
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but there's going
to be a waiting time...
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James: Boy! I'm ahead of you...
Boy! I'm ahead of you, Ivor,
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I'm just like,
"Come on... come on... "
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Ivor: Are you seeing
this? James: Come on, yeah...
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this is like...
this is... I love this...
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All: Laughter...
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Ivor: Because what
we're going to see...
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because, remember,
Daniel 10 is the introduction
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to what the angel is
going to explain in Daniel 11.
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James: Yes.
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Ivor: And Daniel 11 is really...
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even though it's...
watch these dreams...
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it starts with Medo-Persia.
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James: Yes.
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Ivor: Just like
Daniel chapter 8 right?
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James: Yeah... yes.
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Ivor: But Daniel 11 is...
is starting at the same place
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but it's about to focus us in
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on what is to occur around the
latter part of the 2300 days.
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James: Yes.
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Ivor: So, when Daniel is
talking about "my comeliness
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in the presence of
this divine person... "
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James: Hmmm... hmmm... yeah...
00:14:08.94\00:14:11.41
Ivor: "Has turned
into me as nothing... "
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this is going to
really be instrumental
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in us understanding what
the 2300-day judgment is about
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because God's people are
going to have that experience
00:14:22.19\00:14:26.83
that Daniel is talking about
00:14:26.86\00:14:29.33
in... "my comeliness was
turned into me like nothing... "
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James: Yes... you know,
it's powerful, Ivor, because
00:14:34.90\00:14:38.17
when I said... I'm...
I'm ahead of you on this
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I'm just... I was
just following you
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and I was just realizing
Daniel chapter 9, as you said,
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focusses on the 70 weeks
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but there's still
this question about...
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the cleansing of the
sanctuary that isn't dealt with
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and it can't be
dealt with with Daniel
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because the cleansing of
the sanctuary in his mind
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was the Day of Atonement
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but the cleansing of the
sanctuary in Daniel chapter 8
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is the end of
the 2300-day prophecy
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and that takes us
all the way down to 1844
00:15:04.23\00:15:06.90
and that doesn't
pertain to Daniel...
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it doesn't pertain to his time
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and so, you know what
Daniel's told in Daniel 12?
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"Seal up the vision for
it shall be for many days
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and in the end of time,
00:15:17.61\00:15:19.15
many will be purified,
and made white, and tried;
00:15:19.21\00:15:21.85
and the wicked
will do wickedly... "
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none of the
wicked will understand
00:15:23.59\00:15:24.92
that this is the
cleansing of the sanctuary...
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that this is
the time of judgment
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but the wise will understand
00:15:28.06\00:15:29.39
and you will
stand in your place.
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When we get to Daniel
12, we are going to land
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at the end of
the 2300-Day prophecy
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and we're going to be
able to just see and understand
00:15:36.87\00:15:39.93
exactly what that
cleansing is all about
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and we're going to make that
connection again to Daniel 8
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and understand why it was
that it wasn't given to Daniel
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but sealed up for our time...
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at the end of the 2300 days...
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at the end of the 1290
and the 1260 and the 1335.
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So, that's... that's...
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Ivor: Which... which we see
is all part of that prophecy...
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the 1290... the 1335...
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so, it's really amazing that
Daniel is having this experience
00:16:05.23\00:16:09.06
of this inner... like,
"Man, I'm not worthy... "
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and this is...
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when people hear
about the judgment,
00:16:15.80\00:16:17.47
James, there are a lot of
people that reject this idea of
00:16:17.51\00:16:22.84
Christians going
through a judgment
00:16:22.88\00:16:25.41
because they feel unworthy.
00:16:25.45\00:16:28.58
James: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:16:28.62\00:16:29.95
Ivor: "If there's
some kind of a judgment,
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I'm not making it because
if God is looking at my life
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oh my! you know...
what will be the end of me?"
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You understand what I'm saying?
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James: Yes.
00:16:43.10\00:16:44.43
Ivor: And I think this
experience that Daniel...
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I mean... we're on the
outside looking at Daniel, like,
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"Daniel, why would you feel...
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like, look at you
Man, you're Daniel!"
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All: Laughter.
James: Dare to be a Daniel.
00:16:53.34\00:16:55.34
Ivor: Yeah, dare
to be a Daniel...
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"If you feel like that,
what hope is there for me?"
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
hmmm... James: Right
00:17:00.92\00:17:02.58
Ivor: Right, but I think this
experience that Daniel is having
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really is... it is
significant for the believer
00:17:06.02\00:17:13.36
at the end of time.
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James: Amen. Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:17:14.76\00:17:16.10
James: This is the
vegetables right here...
00:17:16.13\00:17:17.47
this is the vegetables
00:17:17.50\00:17:18.83
and it's really... you know,
it's just a new thought to me
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that... that the idea
that the explanation...
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the full explanation
that judgment was postponed
00:17:25.11\00:17:28.38
until Daniel chapter
12, is a new idea to me
00:17:28.41\00:17:31.85
because it wasn't for
Daniel to fully grasp it
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because... and
that really proves
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that the 2300-Day prophecy
is a day-for-a-year prophecy.
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It's a prophetic timeline...
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it takes us down past the
1260... the 1290 and the 1335.
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It takes us all the way
down to the time of the end
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and then, God's
people would understand it
00:17:49.23\00:17:51.43
and we need to
understand it right now...
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we will... when we get
into Daniel chapter 12.
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Ivor: And that three weeks...
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that three weeks
versus immediately
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is so, you know, is powerful...
is a powerful thought.
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James: Hmmm...
hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm.
00:18:05.01\00:18:06.35
James: It is... and
we're going to see why
00:18:06.38\00:18:07.72
as we move on
through this because...
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but... but just building
on what you just said, Ivor,
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just building on what you said,
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let's look at a few verses here.
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Daniel's feeling overwhelmed,
he has no strength...
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no goodness...
no righteousness...
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what does heaven do?
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If we're talking
here about the experience
00:18:20.66\00:18:23.13
of the investigative
judgment for believers,
00:18:23.16\00:18:25.70
what does heaven do
when we feel overwhelmed
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because we've seen Jesus?
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Let's read Jason, let's
read verses 9, 10 and 11.
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Jason: Okay, "Yet I
heard the sound of his words;
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and while I heard
the sound of his words
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I was in a deep
sleep on my face,
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with my face to the ground.
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Suddenly, a hand touched me,
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which made me
tremble on my knees
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and on the palms of my hands.
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And he said to me,
00:18:48.72\00:18:50.09
'O Daniel, man greatly beloved,
00:18:50.13\00:18:52.66
understand the
words that I speak to you,
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and stand upright, for I
have now been sent to you. '
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While he was speaking this
word to me, I stood trembling. "
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James: So, let's just
stop right there for a second,
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when we feel overwhelmed...
00:19:05.37\00:19:06.71
when we feel that
there's no goodness in us...
00:19:06.74\00:19:08.44
we recognize we
have no righteousness
00:19:08.48\00:19:10.35
because we've seen Jesus,
00:19:10.38\00:19:11.71
what does heaven do?
00:19:11.75\00:19:13.11
First of all,
heaven speaks to us.
00:19:13.15\00:19:15.72
If you think about
the transition here
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in verse 9... "Yet I heard
the voice of his words... "
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that's probably talking about
the certain man, Jesus Christ,
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and when he heard
the words of his voice,
00:19:26.90\00:19:30.53
he was in a deep sleep.
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When you fall into a deep sleep,
00:19:31.93\00:19:34.00
normally it's
because you are at peace.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:19:36.74\00:19:38.07
James: You are able to rest...
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there's no rest for the wicked
00:19:39.47\00:19:40.81
but the Lord
gives His saints sleep
00:19:40.84\00:19:43.08
so, Daniel, in his unworthiness,
00:19:43.11\00:19:46.25
is... receives
words of assurance
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that give him
rest... that give him peace.
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That's what God
wants to give us...
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He wants to give us peace.
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Those are the
words of Christ to us
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and then, in verse 10, I think,
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he transitioned to Gabriel.
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"and behold, a
hand touched me... "
00:20:01.16\00:20:03.37
I think this is where Gabriel
steps in and he touches him
00:20:03.43\00:20:06.23
and he sets him upon his knees
00:20:06.27\00:20:08.00
and upon the palms of his hands.
00:20:08.04\00:20:09.67
God works for our
recovery from the revelation
00:20:09.70\00:20:13.71
of our unworthiness... in steps.
00:20:13.74\00:20:15.61
Yvonne: Hmmm... Jason: Hmmm...
00:20:15.64\00:20:17.48
James: See, if we
were laid out flat...
00:20:17.55\00:20:19.11
He picks us up on our
hands and on our knees.
00:20:19.15\00:20:21.38
Yvonne: Oh
nice... Jason: Nice...
00:20:21.42\00:20:22.75
James: That's the
position of prayer sometimes
00:20:22.78\00:20:24.12
and then, from there He
gets us up onto our feet...
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He gets us to stand, you know,
He... He does it in degrees...
00:20:26.42\00:20:28.92
He doesn't
overwhelm us but He...
00:20:28.96\00:20:30.83
He... He works
with us where we are...
00:20:30.86\00:20:32.69
when we're down
at the very lowest,
00:20:32.73\00:20:34.76
He picks us up gently...
00:20:34.80\00:20:36.13
He picks us up
gently and then it says...
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Ivor: Um... James.
James: Go ahead, Ivor.
00:20:38.47\00:20:40.67
Ivor: I think, again,
there's an important point
00:20:40.74\00:20:43.81
that we should stress is...
00:20:43.87\00:20:45.21
when people hear "Judgment"
they think condemnation.
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James: Hmmm...
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm.
00:20:50.05\00:20:51.45
Ivor: They don't see
God working in our behalf.
00:20:51.48\00:20:55.02
They think God is
trying to find ways, right,
00:20:55.05\00:20:58.55
to destroy us...
00:20:58.59\00:20:59.92
find ways to show us guilty,
00:20:59.95\00:21:01.62
so, just another point
that we should consider
00:21:01.66\00:21:05.89
as we're moving through this
and, you know, connecting it
00:21:05.96\00:21:10.17
with what will come in 1844...
the Investigative Judgment,
00:21:10.20\00:21:14.40
we need to understand that
00:21:14.44\00:21:16.17
in the judgment,
God is on our side.
00:21:16.20\00:21:18.61
James: Amen.
Yvonne: Hmmm... that's good.
00:21:18.64\00:21:21.94
James: Amen... and we see this
in the experience of Daniel...
00:21:21.98\00:21:25.28
do you see it here?
00:21:25.31\00:21:26.65
Daniel is
overwhelmed by the same God
00:21:26.68\00:21:28.88
who is now
seeking to comfort him.
00:21:28.92\00:21:31.22
Daniel feels unworthy
00:21:31.25\00:21:33.22
looking to the same God
00:21:33.25\00:21:35.19
who is now speaking
words of peace to him.
00:21:35.22\00:21:36.89
Yvonne: Hmmm...
hmmm... Jason: Hmmm...
00:21:36.93\00:21:38.26
James: So, we
can feel overwhelmed
00:21:38.29\00:21:39.63
and we can think, "Oh,
God must be against me"
00:21:39.66\00:21:41.26
but this... the
chapter 10 of Daniel is saying,
00:21:41.33\00:21:43.57
"No... no... God is for
us... He's here to help us. "
00:21:43.60\00:21:46.47
Yvonne: Then when
we feel like that,
00:21:46.53\00:21:48.67
we can think of
that verse in Romans,
00:21:48.70\00:21:50.74
it says, "There's
now no condemnation
00:21:50.81\00:21:53.07
to those who are
in Christ Jesus... "
00:21:53.11\00:21:55.34
James: Romans chapter 8, yeah.
00:21:55.38\00:21:56.71
Jason: Hmmm.
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:21:56.75\00:21:58.08
Yvonne: So that... and I
think that's an important point,
00:21:58.11\00:21:59.81
Pastor Ivor,
that, you know, we...
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when you hear the judgment,
that... that... that...
00:22:03.49\00:22:06.96
Satan has so attempted to
distort the character of God
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that when you hear
judgment, you immediately think,
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"Oh, I'm not going to make
it because my life is not...
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you know, in harmony
or it's not perfect. "
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Yvonne: And so, you
know, when you think of that,
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then I think these other verses
should come to mind that...
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that remind you
who God really is...
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He is love... He's
Elohim Ahavah the God who loves
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and so, when we
think of him like that...
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then, you know, the
judgment is not so scary
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but we tend to look at ourselves
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instead of looking at Jesus.
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James: Can you
repeat that? Elohim Ava...
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Yvonne: Ahavah... James: Ahavah.
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Yvonne: The God who
loves. James: Really?
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Yvonne: Yes. James: I love that.
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Yvonne: Isn't it
beautiful? James: Yeah.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm.
James: I've got to learn that...
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so... so the point you're
making, Yvonne, is right here
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in verse 11, okay,
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"And he said unto me, O
Daniel, a man greatly beloved. "
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Yvonne: Yes.
Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: Daniel feels like
he is completely worthless
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and God tells him,
"You are greatly beloved. "
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Yvonne: Wow!
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James: That's our
experience... how we feel
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and what God says about
us are two different things
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most of the time.
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See, most of the time
we don't feel righteous...
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if we do feel righteous,
we might be in trouble.
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Yvonne: Yeah,
right... All: Laughter.
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James: But when we
get our eyes on Jesus,
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we feel unworthy and
at the same time God says,
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"You're greatly beloved... "
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Jesus went
through this experience.
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Ivor: This is the
same Daniel who...
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God gives him understanding
of the vision in Daniel 2...
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gives him a vision in Daniel 7
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like this is that
Daniel... Yvonne: Yeah, right.
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Ivor: Right.
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James: Delivers him
from the lions in Daniel 6.
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Ivor: Yeah... and
"I'm unworthy... "
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you know, the... the
humility there is just a lesson
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I think, and that humility
is key again to the judgment.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... James: Amen.
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Ivor: Right, it's
just that humility...
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those who humble themselves,
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God sets on
their hands and knees.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: And lifts them up, amen.
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All: Amen.
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James: And it's vital
for us to understand this
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because sometimes as Christians,
we place our trust in the fact
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that God has
revealed secrets to us...
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that God has given
us ten times the wisdom
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of the
Babylonians of the world...
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that God has given
us dreams and visions...
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that God has delivered us
from the mouth of the lions.
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We... that God
has set us on high
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as the first
ruler in the kingdom.
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You know, and we put
all of that as our pedigree
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and yet, Daniel
10 is telling us,
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"No, no, no...
that's not your pedigree...
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I'll tell you what
your pedigree is...
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you are greatly beloved...
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Yvonne: Yeah...
Jason: Happy laughter.
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James: You are
greatly beloved of heaven.
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Jason: Hmmm...
hmmm... Yvonne: Yes.
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James: That's our pedigree,
that's all we need behind us.
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Yvonne: Yes...
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James: Jesus went
through the same experience
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in the wilderness of temptation.
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Do you remember
when Satan came to Him?
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He tempted Him to
turn stones into bread
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and he said, "If you
are the son of God...
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if you are a child of God,
turn these stones into bread.
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Prove it by what you can do...
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prove it by your works... "
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and what did Jesus say?
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"It is written,
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man doesn't live by
bread alone but by what...?"
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Yvonne: Every
word... Jason: Every word...
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James: And what was the
word that God gave to Jesus
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when He was baptized?
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What was the word
that He was to live by?
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Yvonne: "This is my beloved
Son in whom I'm well pleased. "
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James: What did Satan say?
00:25:32.33\00:25:33.66
He said, "If you
are the Son of God... "
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and what did Jesus say?
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"I live by the Word of God
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and the Word of God
said, 'This is my beloved Son
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in whom I am well pleased. '"
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When we get into this,
we recognize that Jesus came
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as one of us...
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that Jesus understands exactly
what Daniel is going through
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right here... in His own
experience 2,000 years later...
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that when He's
in that wilderness,
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He is experiencing complete...
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the complete weight
of our guilt and shame
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as if He's forsaken of God
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and Satan tries to imply that
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and yet Jesus holds
to the words of God...
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not to His feelings...
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not to what He
can do... His works...
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but He holds to the Word of God.
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And that is so important
because in the midst...
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feelings can be
so... it can betray you...
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they can be... you know,
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you can just get
caught up into your feelings,
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but you must know the
Word is stand on the Word.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Yvonne: So, it's important
to be able to pull that
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and the Holy Spirit
will give it back to you
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but it's important to
hold on to that because your...
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your feelings are,
you know, they fluctuate.
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Jason: Yeah.
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James: And that's why
we're doing these programs...
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we're doing these
programs because we want people
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to be in the Word.
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Yvonne: Yes.
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James: And I believe that when
we get to the judgment time,
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now... we get to the
time where we're struggling...
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we may not turn to Daniel
chapter 2 or Daniel chapter 7
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and Daniel chapter 8
or even Daniel chapter 9,
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we may turn to
Daniel chapter 10...
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we may turn
right here and remember
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that when Daniel saw
Jesus, all his prophesying...
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all his dreams... all
his interpretations...
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all of his
deliverance from lions' dens...
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all of his...
being set on high...
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all of that meant nothing
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except that he
was greatly beloved.
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Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: That was the
thing that saved him
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from being
overwhelmed by his unworthiness
00:27:20.94\00:27:22.90
in the presence of God
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and that's the thing
that's going to save us.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: We need the vegetables
of Daniel chapter 10...
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we need to camp
in Daniel chapter 10
00:27:29.08\00:27:31.71
and we're going to
camp in Daniel chapter 10
00:27:31.78\00:27:33.48
because we're almost
out of time in this Session,
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we... we've hit on a... a...
a gold nugget if you will...
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a vein of
truth... a vein of gold...
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we really need to mine
00:27:41.99\00:27:44.03
and to unearth
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and to bring forth the riches...
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the treasures that are
here in Daniel chapter 10...
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we're going to do that in our
second session as we come back
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and we look at the
last part of this verse
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because we're going to need
an... an amazing explanation
00:27:54.50\00:27:57.17
of the spiritual
content we're involved in
00:27:57.21\00:27:59.41
in these next verses.
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