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James: Okay, this is meeting
number 4 on Daniel chapter 9...
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meeting number 4
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and hopefully it will
be our last meeting...
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not hopefully in the sense that
we want to be done with this...
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but hopefully in the
sense that we can wrap this up
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and really nail
down the timeline,
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that's what
we're leaving off with
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or we left of with... in our
last session was the timeline,
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we looked at Isaiah chapter 1
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and connected
that to Ezra chapter 7
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and noted the
significance of the timeline
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starting in 457 B.C.
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which I think is really...
really powerful... good stuff
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and I think what
God is doing right now
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because this prophecy is
so pivotal and important is...
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He is firming it up...
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not just in the Old
Testament as we've looked at
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but I think in this
session, in the New Testament,
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we're going to look
at New Testament evidence
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for the fulfillment of
this prophecy in Christ
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specifically A.D. 27.
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So, before we do that,
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Jason, would you like to
have a word of prayer for us?
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Jason: Sure... absolutely,
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"Dear heavenly Father,
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we thank You so
much for loving us enough
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to give us these prophecies
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and for helping us
to understand them.
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Lord, we just ask that You would
please guide this study today,
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in Jesus' name we pray, amen. "
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All: Amen.
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James: Now, we spent a lot
of time talking about the fact
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that this is pointing to
Jesus who is going to come in...
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after 483 years...
day-for-a-year principle.
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So, they have 490 years
to accomplish these tasks...
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Jesus... Messiah... was
going to come in 483 years...
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that the word "Messiah"
means: the anointed One.
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So, I'd like us to look
at some New Testament verses
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that kind of give us
evidence or a foundation
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for the timeline of
Jesus Christ's birth
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and for His baptism.
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The first one is
in Luke chapter 2...
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Jason, if you could
look at those for us...
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Luke chapter 2 and
I'll give you the verses
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and then, Yvonne, if you
could look at Luke chapter 3.
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So, Luke chapter 2...
we're going to start here
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with verses 1 through
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4.
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Jason: Okay...
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"And it came to
pass in those days
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that a decree went
out from Caesar Augustus
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that all the world
should be registered.
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This census first took place
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while Quirinius
was governing Syria.
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So all went to be registered,
everyone to his own city.
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Joseph also
went up from Galilee,
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out of the city of
Nazareth, into Judea,
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to the city of David,
which is called Bethlehem,
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because he was of the
house and lineage of David... "
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James: All right, so,
this is talking specifically
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about the reign
of Augustus Caesar
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and who is born during
the reign of Augustus Caesar?
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Yvonne: Christ.
James: Christ is.
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Christ was born during
the reign of Augustus Caesar
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so, Luke is the historian
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that puts dates and
names together for us.
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He is the one that is connecting
Christ to dates in history.
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So, when we go back in history
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and we look at the
rule of Augustus Caesar
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and we look at
the time that he lived
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and the time that he ruled,
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we can know the dates
of when Christ was born.
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Is that important?
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Yes... because this time
prophecy is going to direct us
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to a time when
Christ is anointed...
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that's what the word "Christ"
means in the New Testament...
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the anointed One...
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the "Messiah" in
the Old Testament.
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Now, let's just fast
forward in Christ's life
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to Luke chapter 3
and let's look at...
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in Luke chapter 3,
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let's look at
verses 1 through 3.
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Yvonne: Okay, "Now
in the fifteenth year
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of the reign of Tiberius Caesar,
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Pontius Pilate
being governor of Judea,
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Herod being tetrarch of Galilee,
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his brother
Philip tetrarch of Iturea
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and the region of Trachonites,
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and Lysanias
tetrarch of Abilene,
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while Annas and
Caiaphas were high priests,
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the word of God came to
John the son of Zacharias
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in the wilderness.
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And he went into all the
region around the Jordan,
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preaching a
baptism of repentance
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for the remission of sins... "
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James: Now, isn't it amazing
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that Luke is specifying
who all these governors are...
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who all these people are
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and here he even
specifies the year.
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The fifteenth year
of Tiberius Caesar.
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Do you know, we
can go back in history
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and we can point the
15th year of Tiberius Caesar?
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Yvonne: Wow!
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James: You can
actually go online...
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now, there's a little
bit of controversy here...
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I have written a
little book on this
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and in that book,
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I have five references to
the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar
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but you can find others that
say the date is a year before...
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or a year later, you can...
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there's a little
bit of wiggle room here
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but the references
I have all pinpoint
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A.D. 27 as the 15th year of
the reign of Tiberius Caesar.
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Yvonne: Wow!
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James: A.D. 27... so, what
I'd like to say at this point
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is... you can
actually go to the Bible...
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look at a couple of
historical references
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and you can pinpoint the date
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that John the
Baptist is preaching
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and baptizing for
the remission of sins.
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Now, just fast
forward a little bit, Yvonne,
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to verses 21 to 23.
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Yvonne: "When all
the people were baptized,
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it came to pass that
Jesus also was baptized;
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and while He prayed,
the heaven was opened.
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And the Holy Spirit
descended in bodily form
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like a dove upon Him,
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and a voice came
from heaven which said,
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'You are My beloved Son;
in You I am well pleased. '"
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James: Okay, so we know
now that in the 15th year
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of Tiberius Caesar,
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John the Baptist was
baptizing for remission of sins
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and Jesus came...
being about 30 years of age
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it says in the very next verse,
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Jesus came and He was baptized
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and the Holy
Spirit descended upon Him.
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That's the
information we have so far.
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He was born under
Augustus Caesar...
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He was baptized in the
15th year of Tiberius Caesar
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which we are from
historical references
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pinpointing as A.D. 27.
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Now, one more reference for us.
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Let's look at Luke
chapter 10 and verses 36 to 38,
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Luke chapter 10
verses 36 to 38...
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and by the way, guess
who the author of Luke is?
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I'm sorry... Acts chapter 10...
I'm sorry... Acts chapter 10
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I gave that
away, didn't I? Okay...
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All: Laughter.
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James: Okay, pop quiz...
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Ivor: Is the
author of Luke Acts?
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All: Laughter.
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James: Close... really close.
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All right, Acts
chapter 10, verses...
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Yvonne: Was that
Acts 10 or Luke 10?
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James: Acts chapter 10,
sorry, verses 36 through 38
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and the author of Acts is: Luke
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and the author of Luke is: Luke.
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All right, we can have
a little bit of fun here.
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Jason: "The word which God
sent to the children of Israel,
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preaching peace
through Jesus Christ...
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He is Lord of all...
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that word you know, which was
proclaimed throughout all Judea,
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and began from Galilee after
the baptism which John preached:
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how God anointed
Jesus of Nazareth
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with the Holy
Spirit and with power,
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who went about doing good
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and healing all who
were oppressed by the devil,
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for God was with Him. "
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James: All right, notice
this... the name that's used
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for Christ here is: Jesus.
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Jesus is anointed...
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and that word "anointed"
is the Greek word "Christ"
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Jesus Christ...
Jesus the anointed.
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So, you have Messiah the
Prince in the Old Testament,
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Daniel chapter 9...
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you have Jesus
Christ, the anointed One
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in the New Testament
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and here, He was anointed at the
baptism with the Holy Spirit.
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When was that?
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That was in A.D. 27 or in the
15th year of Tiberius Caesar.
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So, right here from the Bible,
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you're talking about
Luke chapter 2... He's born...
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Luke chapter 3... He's
anointed with the Holy Spirit
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and Acts chapter
10 confirms that.
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Right from the
Bible you have the...
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the evidence that you need
to pinpoint the date A.D. 27...
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the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar
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by looking at a couple
of historical references.
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Now, if you go
backwards from A.D. 27,
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483 years...
you come to 457 B.C.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: Or you just take out the
zero here and you have 457 B.C.
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Ivor: I've got a
question. James: Yes.
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Ivor: Why 483
years... I don't understand...
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where is that coming from?
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James: Okay, well, 483 years...
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good question
from our audience...
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All: Laughter.
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James: Daniel chapter
9 and verse 25, it says,
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"Know therefore and understand,
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that from the going
forth of the commandment
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to restore and build Jerusalem
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unto the anointing of the
Prince... Messiah the Prince...
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anointing the Prince...
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shall be seven weeks,
and threescore and two weeks"
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that's 69 weeks or 483 years...
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that's where we get
the 483 years... so...
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Ivor: Okay, so
69 weeks is 483 days
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but because we
know it's years...
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we're talking about 483 years
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from the decree that went forth
to restore and rebuild the City
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which we know was
not Cyrus' decree...
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was not Darius' decree...
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but was Artaxerxes'
decree given in 457.
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James: Yes... yes...
and you said... earlier...
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you said there were four decrees
but there's three, right,
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or is there four?
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Ivor: So, Artaxerxes gave
a second decree to Nehemiah
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but that decree was really just
a follow up to his first decree.
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James: Okay, so that
will be the fourth one.
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Ivor: Yeah, but technically
it was by three people:
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Cyrus... then Darius... and
the last being Artaxerxes...
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Artaxerxes gave two.
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James: Okay, because you've
got to hold up three fingers
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when you say, "three people. "
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All: Laughter...
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Ivor: Whatever I just
did... whatever I just did.
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James: You
know, this is powerful
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because Messiah the Prince...
the anointed... the Prince
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is going to be 483 years
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so, we understand that
to be a day for a year...
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so these are prophetic
days... literal years...
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take us from 457 to 27 A.D.
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and 27 A.D., that's the
15th year of Tiberius Caesar
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and Luke confirms that.
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So, it's so powerful
to see from every angle...
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Old Testament: Isaiah... Ezra...
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New Testament: Luke... Acts...
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to see everything come
together and focus on Jesus
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and why is that important?
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Because some people have
tried to apply this prophecy
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to the Antichrist.
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Some people have
tried to apply this prophecy
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to Antiochus Epiphanes.
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Some people have
tried to apply this prophecy
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outside of Jesus Christ
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but when you think about it...
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when you look at what
has to be fulfilled there,
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there's nobody but Jesus
that can fulfill this prophecy.
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Yvonne: Right.
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James: Only Jesus can
finish transgression...
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make an end of sins...
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make
reconciliation for iniquity...
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bring in
everlasting righteousness...
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seal up the vision
and the prophecy...
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that is... the
vision belonging to Christ,
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the prophecy being the timeline
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and then... anoint the Most Holy
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which is what He did
when He went to heaven.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: He began His work
in the heavenly sanctuary.
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So, all seven tasks
are completed in Jesus
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before the 70
weeks are completed
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because He went into
the sanctuary in heaven
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at his resurrection
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and He began His ministry
there in earnest for us.
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Yvonne: Isn't
there a belief that...
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that the 69 weeks... that
there is one break of week
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and it's
Dispensationalism or something?
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James: Yes.
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Yvonne: And it's really
a confusing kind of thing
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because there's no
reference in here for that break
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and yet... that's taught.
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James: Yeah, so
let's look at that.
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Ivor and I need to go
through this with you Guys
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and just show the parallelism
here of this prophecy
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and I want us to look at
it going back to verse 24.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:12:15.43\00:12:16.77
James: A lot of people get
confused about this prophecy
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and the reason they get
confused about this prophecy is
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they're not
seeing the parallelism
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between the
Messiah and the temple,
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so, if we go back to verse 24,
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it's... what we're
going to see here is that
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these verses
offer prophetic picture
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of a series of events
that relate to Messiah
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and to the temple in Jerusalem.
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Messiah...
Temple... Messiah Temple,
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Messiah Temple...
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each of these verses predicts
an event concerning the Messiah
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and the Temple... okay.
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Yvonne: Okay.
00:12:45.19\00:12:46.53
James: So... and
that's why you know,
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the angel says to him, you know,
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"I've come to show you what's
going to happen to your people
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and to your city.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... James: Okay...
00:12:54.77\00:12:56.14
"Seventy weeks are
determined upon your people
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and upon the holy city... "
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
hmmm... James: You see that?
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
James: The people and the city,
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the people and the city
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and so, the first
part here in verse 24 is
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that they need to
finish transgression...
00:13:06.78\00:13:08.38
and make an end of sins...
00:13:08.42\00:13:09.75
make
reconciliation for iniquity...
00:13:09.78\00:13:11.12
bring in
everlasting righteousness...
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seal up the vision
and the prophecy...
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and this is also
for the city itself.
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Then in verse 25,
notice what it says,
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"Know therefore and understand,
00:13:19.76\00:13:21.83
that from the going
forth of the commandment
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to restore and build Jerusalem
unto Messiah the Prince
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there shall be seven
weeks and 62 weeks... "
00:13:26.60\00:13:30.51
okay, so that's in relation
to the restoration of Jerusalem
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and then, excuse me,
to Messiah the Prince...
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the anointed one and
then in the latter part,
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the street shall be built again,
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and the wall, even
in troublous times.
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Jason: Hmmm.
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James: So, you see how part
of it applies to the Messiah...
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He's going to be
anointed in 69 weeks
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and the other part
applies to the city itself...
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it's going to be rebuilt.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:13:52.33\00:13:53.66
James: The
temple... and the Messiah...
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the city and the Messiah...
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you go to the next
verse... verse 26...
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"Messiah shall be cut
off, but not for Himself:
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and the people of the
prince who shall come...
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shall destroy the
city and the sanctuary
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and the end thereof
shall be with a flood,
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unto the end of the war
desolations are determined. "
00:14:06.78\00:14:08.81
So, again, you have Messiah
and then you have the city.
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In verse 25, we have
Messiah coming after 69 weeks
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and the city being restored.
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In verse 26, you
have Messiah being cut off
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and the city being destroyed.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: In verse
27, He... Messiah...
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shall confirm the
covenant for many for one week:
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and in the middle of the week
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He shall bring an end
of sacrifice and offering.
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And on the wing of abominations
00:14:33.23\00:14:35.67
shall be one who
shall make desolate,
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even until the consummation,
which is determined,
00:14:37.54\00:14:39.81
is poured out on the desolate. "
00:14:39.84\00:14:41.44
So, if you follow
this Messiah... city...
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Messiah... city,
Messiah... city...
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verse 27 is the key verse
where people take the week
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and apply it to the end of time
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because they say,
00:14:51.15\00:14:52.49
"Oh, the prince
that's going to come...
00:14:52.52\00:14:54.02
that is the antichrist. "
00:14:54.06\00:14:55.69
Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:14:55.72\00:14:57.46
James: "And when he comes,
00:14:57.53\00:14:58.86
he's going to do an
end with sacrifices...
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that's going to be the temple
that's rebuilt in Jerusalem.
00:15:01.26\00:15:04.63
It's going to be reestablished
00:15:04.67\00:15:06.33
and he's going to do
an end with sacrifice
00:15:06.37\00:15:08.27
well, of course, God's church
is going to be raptured up
00:15:08.30\00:15:10.04
at that time,
00:15:10.07\00:15:12.21
but a lot of people
are going to be involved
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in a tribulation that's
going to take place... "
00:15:13.64\00:15:15.94
and all of this is
built up upon this idea...
00:15:15.98\00:15:18.51
it's hypothesis of
separating this last week
00:15:18.55\00:15:20.98
from the rest of the 69
weeks, based on nothing really
00:15:21.02\00:15:24.65
except for an interpretation
of this last verse
00:15:24.69\00:15:26.79
that doesn't really make sense
00:15:26.82\00:15:28.26
but could make sense if
you wanted to see it that way.
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Yvonne: Right.
00:15:30.39\00:15:31.73
James: But if you follow the
pattern of verses 24, 25 and 26,
00:15:31.76\00:15:35.86
verse 27 fits perfectly
00:15:35.90\00:15:37.23
because the prince that's
coming is talking specifically
00:15:37.27\00:15:40.90
about the Power of Rome.
00:15:40.94\00:15:43.34
Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:15:43.41\00:15:44.97
James: That he is going to come
00:15:45.01\00:15:46.34
on the wing of
abominations so, remember,
00:15:46.37\00:15:48.94
Jesus talked about the
abomination that makes desolate,
00:15:48.98\00:15:52.15
the Romans come
to destroy the city
00:15:52.18\00:15:55.22
and that city is
going to be made desolate
00:15:55.25\00:15:59.35
even unto the consummation
at the very end of time.
00:15:59.42\00:16:02.52
So, Messiah is going
to confirm the covenant
00:16:02.56\00:16:05.13
with many for one week...
00:16:05.16\00:16:06.49
in the middle of the week,
He's going to be cut off...
00:16:06.53\00:16:07.86
His disciples...
according to Hebrews 1
00:16:07.90\00:16:09.53
and verse nine
I believe it is...
00:16:09.56\00:16:11.50
they continue to
confirm that covenant
00:16:11.53\00:16:13.40
for the rest of that week
00:16:13.44\00:16:15.04
and then in A.D. 70, the
city is completely destroyed
00:16:15.07\00:16:19.37
it's made desolate by
the prince who comes...
00:16:19.41\00:16:22.61
of course, the
Romans... Titus...
00:16:22.64\00:16:23.98
and when that city is
made desolate, it's...
00:16:24.01\00:16:28.08
we're told in the prophecy,
it's going to stay desolate
00:16:28.12\00:16:30.29
until the consummation...
00:16:30.32\00:16:31.65
that means, the
very end of time.
00:16:31.69\00:16:33.02
Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:16:33.05\00:16:34.39
James: Okay, now,
people are thinking that...
00:16:34.42\00:16:36.26
that city is going to
be rebuilt or, excuse me,
00:16:36.29\00:16:38.73
and they say that that
temple is going to be rebuilt
00:16:38.76\00:16:40.43
at some point
00:16:40.46\00:16:42.10
but that's not
what God is saying here.
00:16:42.16\00:16:43.60
He's saying...
it's staying leveled...
00:16:43.67\00:16:45.83
it's staying destroyed
until the consummation...
00:16:45.90\00:16:48.20
till all things
end and Jesus returns.
00:16:48.24\00:16:49.80
There's not going to be a
temple built on the Temple Mount
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and just so that that can
be really clear in the Bible,
00:16:53.01\00:16:56.08
God allowed
Islam to build a mosque
00:16:56.11\00:17:01.48
on the temple site.
00:17:01.52\00:17:03.28
If there was no
mosque there right now...
00:17:03.32\00:17:04.85
if... if Islam didn't basically
own that temple site right now,
00:17:04.89\00:17:08.86
you can believe there
would be another temple there.
00:17:08.89\00:17:10.39
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:17:10.43\00:17:11.76
James: But God is made it...
in fact, you can... you've...
00:17:11.79\00:17:13.60
we've heard that the temple
is ready to be put up there,
00:17:13.63\00:17:15.60
the bricks are... everything...
the stones are in place,
00:17:15.63\00:17:17.57
they're ready
to be put in place,
00:17:17.60\00:17:18.93
but there's a mosque there
00:17:18.97\00:17:20.50
and there are a billion Muslims
00:17:20.54\00:17:22.10
who are going to
descend on that spot
00:17:22.14\00:17:24.74
if you touch that mosque.
00:17:24.77\00:17:26.21
Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:17:26.24\00:17:27.58
James: And so in a sense,
God has made it very clear
00:17:27.61\00:17:29.64
that this prophecy applies
to Jesus and the original temple
00:17:29.68\00:17:34.15
and not a future temple.
00:17:34.18\00:17:35.52
We need to get our eyes focused
00:17:35.55\00:17:37.22
on the Lamb who fulfilled
all of these prophecies
00:17:37.25\00:17:40.82
in the heavenly temple...
00:17:40.86\00:17:42.22
the heavenly sanctuary
and not an earthly sanctuary
00:17:42.26\00:17:43.96
and that's where
people get distracted...
00:17:43.99\00:17:45.83
they really feel
that all these prophecies
00:17:45.89\00:17:47.66
are still going to be
fulfilled in the Jewish Nation
00:17:47.70\00:17:50.17
when we see clearly
that this prophecy limited
00:17:50.20\00:17:53.03
the time of the
Jewish Nation... to 70 weeks
00:17:53.07\00:17:55.84
and that came to
an end in A.D. 34.
00:17:55.87\00:17:58.04
Yvonne: Hmmm... Jason: Hmmm...
00:17:58.07\00:17:59.41
Ivor: Yeah, James,
I think it's important
00:17:59.44\00:18:02.34
to really emphasize the point
00:18:02.38\00:18:06.15
that when people
look at Bible prophecy
00:18:06.18\00:18:09.38
and put those prophecies
in the wrong time period,
00:18:09.42\00:18:14.22
the result is this kind
of false prophecy, right,
00:18:14.26\00:18:19.39
so, we know the book of
Daniel is the primary source
00:18:19.43\00:18:24.53
for end-time events.
00:18:24.57\00:18:25.90
God told Daniel
to seal the book.
00:18:25.93\00:18:28.37
That's speaking
about the Old Testament...
00:18:28.40\00:18:31.17
in the book...
00:18:31.21\00:18:32.54
in the New Testament, we
have the book of Revelation
00:18:32.57\00:18:35.24
that is specifically geared
towards the time of the end
00:18:35.28\00:18:38.08
but the primary focus of
00:18:38.11\00:18:40.88
the other prophets
of the Old Testament
00:18:40.92\00:18:43.42
is
00:18:43.45\00:18:48.26
things related
directly to Israel
00:18:48.29\00:18:51.89
during the Old
Testament times, right?
00:18:51.93\00:18:54.96
Up to the coming of Jesus
00:18:55.00\00:18:56.33
so, the books of
Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel...
00:18:56.36\00:18:59.20
they are for the most part
dealing with the fall of Babylon
00:18:59.23\00:19:04.57
right, and then the re-gathering
of the people into Jerusalem
00:19:04.61\00:19:09.88
to rebuild the temple, right,
00:19:09.94\00:19:12.21
and then the coming of Jesus.
00:19:12.25\00:19:14.48
When we get to
the book of Daniel,
00:19:14.52\00:19:16.38
we talk about this a little bit
in one of our prior programs,
00:19:16.42\00:19:19.52
remember in the... in the...
00:19:19.55\00:19:21.32
in the prophecy given in
the book of Leviticus 26,
00:19:21.36\00:19:24.76
there was a "forgiveness
clause" for the nation.
00:19:24.79\00:19:28.16
James: Yes.
00:19:28.20\00:19:29.93
Ivor: There was no forgiveness
clause in Daniel chapter 9.
00:19:29.96\00:19:32.43
James: Right. Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:19:32.47\00:19:33.80
Ivor: After God says,
00:19:33.84\00:19:35.17
"Okay, I'm going to
give you 70 more weeks... "
00:19:35.20\00:19:36.67
there's no... "but if you... "
00:19:36.71\00:19:39.07
you know, "after
this happens and if... "
00:19:39.14\00:19:41.44
no, it's just... "The city
is going to be destroyed...
00:19:41.48\00:19:44.31
the temple is
going to be destroyed
00:19:44.35\00:19:45.68
until the consummation...
until the end of time. "
00:19:45.71\00:19:48.92
There is no... "Okay, we're
going to do this again... "
00:19:48.95\00:19:52.65
no, "As a nation, the... the...
the... the gospel has been taken
00:19:52.69\00:19:57.66
or the kingdom has
been taken from you
00:19:57.69\00:19:59.73
and given to a nation that
are bringing forth the fruits. "
00:19:59.79\00:20:02.56
James: Right.
00:20:02.60\00:20:04.03
Ivor: Those were
Jesus' own words...
00:20:04.07\00:20:06.53
so, the result of
not taking those words
00:20:06.60\00:20:09.74
and not understanding how
these prophetic books work
00:20:09.77\00:20:12.44
is... people take prophecies in
the time of Isaiah, Jeremiah...
00:20:12.47\00:20:16.95
about the
rebuilding of the temple
00:20:16.98\00:20:18.71
and they're applying
them to end-time events...
00:20:18.75\00:20:23.39
James: Right.
00:20:23.42\00:20:24.75
Ivor: That's how you come
up with these false prophecies
00:20:24.79\00:20:27.92
that are not going to happen.
00:20:27.96\00:20:29.76
James: Yeah... so basically
what you have in Daniel
00:20:29.79\00:20:32.66
is... you have Daniel
beginning with Babylon,
00:20:32.69\00:20:35.36
Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome
and in that prophetic timeline,
00:20:35.40\00:20:41.74
you have a transition
taking place when Christ comes
00:20:41.77\00:20:43.84
because Christ comes
in that fourth kingdom.
00:20:43.87\00:20:45.97
Christ was born
under Augustus Caesar
00:20:46.01\00:20:48.94
and then He was
baptized under Tiberius Caesar
00:20:49.01\00:20:51.85
and then you have
Jerusalem being destroyed...
00:20:51.88\00:20:54.68
the temple left desolate...
00:20:54.72\00:20:56.05
the rejection of
Jesus... Messiah...
00:20:56.08\00:20:58.35
that is... in a
sense... the closing up
00:20:58.39\00:21:00.62
of that 70-Week period.
00:21:00.66\00:21:02.46
When... when Stephen
was stoned in A.D. 34,
00:21:02.49\00:21:04.73
they are
full-on rejecting Christ
00:21:04.76\00:21:06.66
and they are no
longer under Theocracy.
00:21:06.70\00:21:09.16
Yvonne: Hmmm... Jason: Hmmm...
00:21:09.23\00:21:10.57
James: Individuals
can always be saved...
00:21:10.60\00:21:12.57
whether they're Jew or Gentile
00:21:12.63\00:21:14.34
but God had the Jewish
Nation under a Theocracy
00:21:14.40\00:21:17.91
until the end of the 70 weeks.
00:21:17.94\00:21:19.67
So, when you
transition past the 70 weeks,
00:21:19.74\00:21:22.64
the latter part of Daniel...
00:21:22.68\00:21:24.35
even the latter part
of Daniel 2 and Daniel 7
00:21:24.38\00:21:26.55
and Daniel 8...
00:21:26.58\00:21:27.92
the latter part
of those prophecies
00:21:27.95\00:21:29.28
are all speaking about
not Babylon... Medo-Persia...
00:21:29.32\00:21:32.29
Greece and Pagan Rome
but primarily Papal Rome.
00:21:32.35\00:21:35.22
As you're moving
toward the end of time,
00:21:35.26\00:21:37.09
Revelation picks up there
00:21:37.13\00:21:38.99
because Revelation
begins in John's day.
00:21:39.03\00:21:41.63
Revelation doesn't go
all the way back to Babylon,
00:21:41.66\00:21:44.27
Revelation
starts with Pagan Rome
00:21:44.30\00:21:46.84
and Revelation takes
us from John's time...
00:21:46.87\00:21:49.40
connects with Daniel...
00:21:49.44\00:21:50.81
especially in Revelation
13, we see that connection.
00:21:50.84\00:21:53.01
We also see it in Revelation 10.
00:21:53.04\00:21:54.38
The beast out of the
sea has teeth like a lion
00:21:54.41\00:21:57.91
and a body like a leopard
00:21:57.98\00:21:59.31
and feet like a bear...
00:21:59.35\00:22:00.68
that's the
connection to the book of Daniel
00:22:00.72\00:22:02.05
but it doesn't talk
about those powers...
00:22:02.08\00:22:03.55
it talks about the latter powers
00:22:03.59\00:22:05.09
so it... it
picks up in John's day
00:22:05.15\00:22:07.02
and it takes us all the way
forward to the very end of time.
00:22:07.06\00:22:09.26
Daniel's portion
that was sealed up
00:22:09.29\00:22:11.66
is unsealed in the
book of Revelation.
00:22:11.69\00:22:14.03
Revelation, in a sense, is a
supplement to the book of Daniel
00:22:14.06\00:22:17.17
so you have Revelation unsealing
00:22:17.20\00:22:19.47
and helping us to
understand more clearly
00:22:19.50\00:22:22.00
for example, the seven
thunders in Revelation 10
00:22:22.04\00:22:25.01
really help us to
understand Daniel chapter 9
00:22:25.07\00:22:28.01
and that's why in
Revelation chapter 10,
00:22:28.04\00:22:30.15
he sees an angel standing
on the sea and on the earth
00:22:30.18\00:22:33.88
having a little book opened.
00:22:33.92\00:22:35.55
Well, the little
book that is opened
00:22:35.58\00:22:37.72
is the only book
that was ever sealed
00:22:37.75\00:22:39.85
and that's the book of Daniel.
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In Revelation 10, a lot
of people struggle with this
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but Revelation 10 is
actually a prophetic picture
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of the Millerite
Movement, Ivor...
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Ivor: Yeah...
which I was going to...
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I'm glad you
brought it there because
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we want to go
back to the question,
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"Why are we talking
about the 70-Week prophecy
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when we're trying to understand
the 2300-Day prophecy?
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James: Hmmm...
hmmm... Ivor: Right?
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Why has God
connected the 70 weeks
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as the first part
of this larger prophecy
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which is 2300 days?
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If we take that
457 and go all the way
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to the end of the 70 weeks,
which brings us to 34 A.D.,
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the remaining
time of that 2300 years
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is 1810 years which
would bring you to 1844.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: I want you to notice this,
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what happened
on a smaller scale,
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at the end of
the 70-Week prophecy
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is what happens
on a global scale
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towards the end of
the 2300-Day prophecy.
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James: Yes.
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Ivor: God is using
the 70-week prophecy
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as a... as a smaller picture...
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James: A type...
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Ivor: A type, if you will,
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of what will happen revolving
around the 2300 days, right?
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James: Hmmm...
hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: So, just as
there was a judgment
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upon the
professed people of God...
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something similar is coming
at the end of the 2300 days.
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James: A judgment is
coming at the end of time.
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Ivor: Absolutely. James: Yeah.
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Ivor: And what's interesting is
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during this final week
of the... of the 70 weeks,
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remember that, you
know, the people...
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Genuine people of God
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believed that Jesus was
coming to cleanse the earth...
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that's what they thought.
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James: Yeah.
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Ivor: But He ascends
into the heavenly sanctuary.
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James: Right.
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Ivor: And they
were totally embarrassed
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about their
miscalculation of the prophecy.
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James: Yes.
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Ivor: They have the timing
right but the event wrong.
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James: Yeah. Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: And it was not until after
their great disappointment...
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Yvonne: Come on...
come on... All: Laughter.
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Ivor: It was not until after
their great disappointment,
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that you've got two disciples
on the road to Emmaus...
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you know, trying
to avoid people...
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when suddenly the
Lord appears to them,
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they don't know it's the Lord
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but He begins to unfold to them
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things that they
did not understand
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and the very thing that was
supposed to be the death knell
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of the Christian movement
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became the chief
cornerstone of it.
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James: Yes. Yvonne:
Hmmm... Jason: Hmmm...
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James: Ivor...
this is so important.
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Ivor: Powerful parallel.
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James: Yes, and so many people
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are critical of
the Adventist Church
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because of the
Millerite disappointment
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and they don't
realize that the disciples
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and the young Christian church
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went through
the very same thing.
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Two people... embarrassed...
out of Jerusalem...
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on the road to Emmaus...
"Let's get out of here...
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don't want to meet anyone...
don't want to see anyone... "
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same thing happens
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in the disappointment
of the Millerite Movement.
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In fact, these are...
these two disappointments
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are on the same
prophetic timeline.
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One is at the end of the
70-week part of the 2300 days
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and the other one is at
the end of the 2300-day part
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of the 2300 days... they're all
on the same prophetic timeline.
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Not only so but if you go
all through Biblical history,
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you're going to
find that many times
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disappointments were the
way that God led His people.
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Abraham was disappointed
when he got together with Hagar
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and finally
Isaac comes out of that
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but they go through
disappointment first.
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Jacob is disappointed when
he tries to steal the birthright
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and finally he gets the
birthright through God's means.
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Moses is
disappointed when he tries
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killing the
Egyptian to free his people
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and finally, you
know, God leads him out
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and tells him, "This is
the way we're going to do it. "
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Jonah is disappointed
when Nineveh isn't destroyed...
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you can just go through
over and over and over again
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to criticize
the Adventist church
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for the Millerite disappointment
which is in Bible prophecy
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is to miss the whole
picture that God paints from...
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from the beginning, all
the way to the end of time.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... Jason: Hmmm...
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James: It is
through disappointment
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that we find a firmer
grip on God and on His Word
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and put all of
our dependence on Him
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and no dependence on us
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and we see that
story over and over again
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through... through
the Biblical record.
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So, that's powerful, Ivor,
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I really love
that... that connection...
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that disappointment...
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those two men walking away
in... in the parallelism...
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we got... and there's
more parallels than that
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but we don't have enough time
you know, to go through them all
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but that was really powerful.
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We're going to close
out Daniel chapter 9...
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hopefully, we've given
enough information here
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to help our Viewers
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to be able to go
back and see this timeline
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as it ought to be
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and the parallelism between
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the destruction of
Jerusalem and the Messiah...
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the Jerusalem... Messiah...
Jerusalem... the Messiah
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and to really nail it down
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so that we don't push
all of this into the future
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and allow it to
have its proper points.
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Ivor: And James, we...
we... we should point out
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in maybe the next program
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that in 34 A.D., we
have the gospel now going
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to the whole...
James: To the world.
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Ivor: to outside of...
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yes, outside of the
Jewish Movement, yeah.
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James: Just like
Revelation 10 verse 11,
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"You must prophesy
again before many peoples,
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nations, kindreds and tongues. "
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Ivor:
Multitudes. Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: Same thing
is taking place there
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as we see taking place here.
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God is about saving
people and I love the fact
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that that's the bottom
line of prophecy, don't you?
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Yvonne: Amen... Ivor: Amen...
James: Amen... Jason: Amen...
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