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James: Okay, we are back
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and I think it
will be good for us
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as we move into Daniel chapter 9
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to summarize a little bit
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about what we
studied in Daniel chapter 8,
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because we have
moved through Daniel 8
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probably pretty
fast... I don't know...
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we... we did two programs on it
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but I think there are still
some things we need to flesh out
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and also, we left
verses 13 and 14 on the table
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because we want to
connect the 2300-day prophecy
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in those verses
to Daniel chapter 9
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where God gives
Daniel special instruction
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on what... that
timeline actually means
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but before we jump in
even with our summary,
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we should start
with a word of prayer.
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Yvonne, would you
like to pray for us?
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Yvonne: Sure... sure,
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"Dear Lord, we just
thank you so very much
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for the privilege
of studying Your Word
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and learning all of these
amazing truths that are in it
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and so, we just thank you and we
ask you to send your Holy Spirit
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to lead and guide us
and direct us into all truth
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and we thank you so
much for all that you do
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and for who you are,
in Jesus' name, amen. "
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All: Amen.
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James: All right,
Daniel chapter 8 began
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with a vision that was after
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or similar to
the one in Daniel 7.
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So, Daniel is
having a second dream
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because his first
one was Daniel 7...
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the one in Daniel 2 is
actually Nebuchadnezzar's dream
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that Daniel was given
the interpretation of...
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the understanding of...
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so, his second dream is in
the third year of Belshazzar.
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So, it's before Babylon falls
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but in this dream,
Babylon is missing.
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So, it's
predictive of Babylon's fall.
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It follows the
same basic outline...
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Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece,
Rome with Babylon missing.
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Medo-Persia is
there... Greece is there...
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they're
different now in symbols...
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they're not a bear
or a... a leopard...
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they are a ram and a he-goat
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and they're identified in
that way in verses 20 to 22,
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so, the angel wants
to make it very clear...
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this is the same basic
outline that I've given you
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in Daniel 2 and in Daniel 7.
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We have a little bit of detail
about Medo-Persia and Greece
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and then we explode into
the fourth beast of Rome.
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One verse, I think, is focusing
on this "King of the North"
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because remember, he's pushing
toward the south and the east
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and the Pleasant Land so
he's coming from the north,
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so, there's King of
the North in its pagan form
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and then the rest
of the verses focus on
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his assault
vertically toward heaven,
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that is the Papal form of Rome.
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A... a... a
focus on the sanctuary
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and its attack against
the mediation of Christ
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and I shared with
you my own experience
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being raised a
Catholic and how I was taught
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and millions of people are...
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actually more than a
billion people are...
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that our forgiveness
comes from a priest...
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an earthly man and
not directly from God.
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That is what this
prophetic prophecy
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is outlining here for
us... this specific attack
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where the sanctuary of
truth is cast down to the ground
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and the mediation of Christ is
obscured by an earthly mediation
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and then the question
is asked, "How long...
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how long is this
going to continue?
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How long is
this going to go on?"
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And the answer is
given in verses 13 and 14
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and we kind of left that
on the table, didn't we, Ivor?
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We left those two
verses on the table.
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Ivor: Yeah, I think it's
important that we understand
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the... the
context of these 2300 days
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and one of the things,
James, and we should point out
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is the type of beast
being used in Daniel chapter 8.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: There is a
ram and a he-goat
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and for the mind
of the... you know...
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James: Hebrews.
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Ivor: Jewish reader...
right... you are thinking...
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ram and he-goat reminds
you of something very specific
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in the Old
Testament sanctuary service
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and that would have
been the Day of Atonement.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: And on the
Day of Atonement,
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this is when the
sanctuary was... was cleansed
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and so, when we see
this ram and this he-goat...
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the interaction between
this ram and this he-goat
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and then you have
this vision towards...
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or this prophecy
towards the end of this vision
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about the
sanctuary being cleansed,
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we're having illusions
here to the Day of Atonement
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which is something that we're
going to need to understand...
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what is the Day
of Atonement about
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and what does the
cleansing of the sanctuary mean?
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So, that's something
that... that we will...
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we will need to address
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but speaking more specifically
about this time period.
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When Daniel sees in... in...
or hears this angel speaking,
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verse 13, it reads there,
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"Then I heard
one saint speaking,
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and another saint said unto
that certain saint which spake,
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'How long shall be the vision
concerning the daily... '"
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the word
"sacrifice" is supplied there...
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"and the
transgression of desolation,
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to give both the
sanctuary and the host
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to be trodden under foot?"
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So, the angel is asking,
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"How long is going to be
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the events
surrounding this vision?"
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He's asking about
the vision as a whole.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm... okay.
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Ivor: So, if we were
to take these 2300 days,
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right? and...
and ask the question,
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"Are these literal days?"
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The answer would
have to be, "No... "
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why?
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Because the
vision starts with a ram
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and then it
proceeds to a he-goat
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and then it proceeds to these
four horns out of the he-goat
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and then it
proceeds to this Little Horn
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and then this Little
Horn doing all these things
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against the sanctuary...
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in other words, the
vision covers the span...
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I'm sorry... the time span...
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the time covers the
span of the entire vision.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: It must
include Medo-Persia...
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it must include Greece...
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we've seen in previous studies
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that the Little Horn
represents Rome in two phases...
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pagan... and then Papal...
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so, this vision must span
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Medo-Persia...
Greece... Rome... Papal Rome.
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James: Yeah.
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Ivor: And what
we're going to see
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is that in Daniel 9...
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in Daniel 8... we're not
given a starting point here,
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we're just told this is
what's going to happen, right?
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We're given the time but we're
not given a starting point.
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When we get to Daniel 9,
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we're going to see
that the starting point
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is in the kingdom of
the Ram with the two horns.
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James: Yes. Yvonne: Hmmm.
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Ivor: Right? James:
Yeah... Medo-Persia.
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Ivor: So, if Daniel... yeah,
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if Daniel tells us
that the starting point
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is in the
Medo-Persian Empire, right?
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James: Yeah.
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Ivor: When this
decree goes forth to restore
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and rebuild Jerusalem
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and that did not
happen in Babylon...
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it happened in the
Medo-Persian Empire,
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then we go back to Daniel 8...
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we can begin to see, "Hmmm... "
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so, if the
Little Horn is the one
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doing the
desecrating of the temple
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and he comes after
Rome... Pagan Rome...
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then this vision
begins in the Ram period
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and extends all the
way to the Little Horn
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which means, if we're
using 2300 literal days
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that wouldn't take us
past the first kingdom.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: If we use 2300 years,
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we will find that
every part of the prophecy
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falls in place to the very year.
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James: That is such
a good point and it...
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it... it put a light
bulb on in my brain...
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the light bulb was
that that's one reason why
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the kingdom of
Babylon is left out.
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Ivor: Yes.
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James: The kingdom of
Babylon is still in existence
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when Daniel's given
this vision but it's left out
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and it's specifically left out
because this vision encompasses
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Medo-Persia...
Greece and Rome, right?
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The 2300 days encompasses
Medo-Persia... Greece and Rome,
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not Babylon so
that's added confirmation
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that the 2300-day time
length is years, you know,
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2300 prophetic days
equals 2300 literal years
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and because the
question's being asked...
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"How long the vision
concerning all of this...?"
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The answer is,
"Well, 2300 years... "
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prophetic days... years...
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and that will
start with Medo-Persia...
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now, if Rome was still in...
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I mean, Babylon
was still in existence
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and Babylon was the first power,
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then it would have to go
all the way back to Babylon
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because it's
concerning the vision, right?
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That's what
Ivor's bringing out here.
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Ivor: Absolutely.
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James: So, that's
another indication
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as to why God left
Babylon out of the picture
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because that helps to
confirm the 2300-day time frame
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as prophetic
days or literal years.
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Ivor: Now... now, to
add to this you know,
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when we
understand that the 70 weeks
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in Daniel 9...
we're going to see this...
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maybe in this study...
maybe in the next study
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that the 70 weeks is
connected with this 2300 days...
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then we have to utilize
the same time principle.
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James: Right... yeah.
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Ivor: Those 70 weeks
have to be weeks of years
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and we're going to
see that borne out... why?
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Because the 70
weeks and the 2300 days
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is part of the same...
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the 70 weeks is a smaller part
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of the larger time
prophecy which is 2300 days.
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James: Yeah. Ivor: Right?
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James: Right.
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Ivor: If it's the same
prophecy, it's got a plot...
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the same rule must apply.
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James: Right. Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: Which was...
then helps us to understand
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why in Daniel 7...
when we talked about time...
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times and half a time,
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that we said...
it was not 1260 days
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but 1260 years... why?
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Because it's part of
the same prophecy, right?
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James: Yeah. Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: The Little Horn is
connected with this time...
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times and a half...
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which is connected
with the 2300 days...
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which is connected with the
70 weeks as a starting point
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so... all... this...
this basically is telling us
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this is one time prophecy.
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James: Yeah.
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Ivor: Even when we
get to Daniel chapter 12
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and we're looking at
this time period of the 1290
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and the 1335, we're going to see
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it's all a part
of the same prophecy.
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James: Yes... good. Yvonne: Wow!
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Ivor: Therefore, if one
part of it is a day for a year,
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then the whole thing
must be a day for a year.
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Yvonne: Good.
James: Yes... absolutely.
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Ivor: And I know
we typically will go
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to Ezekiel chapter 4 verse 6
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or Numbers 14:34,
to...to... you know...
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demonstrate the
day-for-a-year principle,
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but even without that...
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James: Even without that...
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Ivor: Even without that,
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just looking at
the 70-week prophecy,
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and seeing its connection
to all the other prophecies...
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time prophecies in Daniel,
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we have to come
to the conclusion
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that it's a day
for a year because
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all the time prophecies fit
perfectly... when you do that.
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When you go to the
book of Revelation,
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you're seeing the
same time prophecies...
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it's the 42 months... right?
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It's the... it's
the... the 1260 days...
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yet it's all part... so...
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we're not picking and choosing,
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we're simply saying,
this time prophecy...
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the 2300 days which
throughout Daniel and Revelation
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is broken up into
smaller sub sections...
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is all one prophecy.
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James: Yeah.
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Ivor: And it's a day
for a year. James: Yeah...
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James: So we see that...
that's clearly indicated here,
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I like the way that... that
verse 13 reads in the King James
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"Then I heard one saint
speak to another saint... "
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and I'm going to leave
out all the italicized words
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because all of those are
added by the translators.
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"I heard one saint
speak with another saint,
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and the other saint
said unto that certain saint
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that certain which spake,
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'How long the vision...
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the daily... the
transgression of desolation,
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to give both the
sanctuary and the host
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to be trodden under foot?'"
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How long the vision...
the daily... the sanctuary...
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the
transgression of desolation...
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how long are all these...
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how long is it going
to be for all these things
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to happen... to be fulfilled...
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and then he says, "2300 days...
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then shall the
sanctuary be cleansed. "
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we're going to come to
the end of this whole vision
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after 2300 days.
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Jason: Hmmm...
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Yvonne: You know,
to me... this is...
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it's so amazing that, you know,
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we talk about letting
the Bible interpret itself
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and... and the verses
in Ezekiel... Ezekiel 4:6
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and Numbers 14:34...
say, a day for a year
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so, just in case
people want to say,
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"Well, you just
applied that on your own... "
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no... no... no...
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the Bible tells us that in
prophecy, a day equals a year,
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so, you can use that and I know
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Pastor Ivor, you had said,
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even without
that which is true...
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but the fact that
God gave that to us...
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it... it lets people know
this is not just supposition,
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it's in the Word
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and you can, you know, use
the Word to interpret itself
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so, to me... it just shows
you how amazing God is that...
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that you know,
from the beginning...
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He lets you know just
what's going to happen
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and then you look
back and you can see
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how everything
just fits... it fits.
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James: Now, I want to... I want
to pick up on this point, Yvonne
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because you've
brought up something
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I think is really significant
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and that is... is that God has
actually given us Bible verses
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to back up the application that
we're making to this prophecy,
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we're just getting started...
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what Ivor said and what you're
saying is just the beginning...
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when we get into
Daniel chapter 9,
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we are going to
nail this prophecy
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because what you just said is
so important... it's got to fit.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
hmmm... Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: You just can't say,
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"Oh, in Bible prophecy,
a day equals a year... "
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and leave it at
that... it's got to fit.
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There are times in the Bible
when it says something like
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the day of the
Lord... in Bible prophecy...
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"the day of the
Lord" or "for an hour"
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or "in that hour"
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or "He'll rule for... "
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that doesn't necessarily mean
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we're talking
about prophetic time...
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it's got to fit
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so, what we do is, we
first of all look and see
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if indeed that principle
can apply to this prophecy.
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Then, once we see that it
is possible for it to fit,
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we go back and we say,
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"Okay, now, how does
that interpret the prophecy?
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Where does the prophecy lay out
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if we apply the
principle of day for a year?"
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And if we lay out the
prophecy and it fits...
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in other words,
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if that interpretation fits into
that timeline of day for a year
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then, we've got a
perfect interpretation.
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Does that make sense?
Yvonne: Yes... yes... yes.
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James: So, we're
just getting started here,
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we're saying, "Hey, this
has got to be day for a year
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but now, we got
to see if it fits. "
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Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: Yeah, just to
highlight that point James,
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remember, in our previous
program, I had mentioned this
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that in the Old
Testament, there are...
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or with the Old
Covenant, I should say,
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there are two time
prophecies related to Israel.
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The first was the
70 years... Babylon...
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the next is the 70 weeks
that starts with Medo-Persia,
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right, so, in the 70 years,
they're in captivity in Babylon
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and... and by the way, I re...
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I... I... I'm going to
try not to jump ahead here
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but this is...
this is so significant.
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James: We don't
mind if you jump ahead.
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All: Laughter.
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Ivor: This is key to understand
end-time events, right?
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The... the... the 70
years occurred because... what?
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and I'm going to throw
this as a test question out,
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why did the children of Israel
go into Babylonian captivity
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for 70 years?
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Yvonne: You mean
that specific number or...
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or they... idolatry?
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Ivor: Yeah, why?
Yvonne: Idolatry.
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Ivor: So, it was
something very specific...
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they spent 70 years...
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it was exactly 70
years so that their land...
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James: The Sabbath...
rest... Ivor: Exactly.
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James: Right. Yvonne: Ohhhh...
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Ivor: They... they... they
neglected the law of God...
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the commandments of God...
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the 70 years had to
do with the law of God.
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James: Yeah.
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Ivor: The 70 weeks has to
do with the testimony of Jesus.
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James: Hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: Don't... don't...
Yvonne: Come on... come on.
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Ivor: The 70
years... the law of God...
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specifically the Sabbath.
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The 70 weeks... we're
going to see is a prophecy
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regarding the
testimony of Jesus.
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James: Amen.
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Ivor: And what
ends up happening is...
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at the end of that 70 weeks,
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something is going
to happen to Israel
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signifying their rejection
of the law and the testimony.
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James: Hmmm... Yvonne: Wow!
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Ivor: Their rejection
of the commandments of God
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and the testimony of Jesus.
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James: All right,
we're in Revelation 12 now.
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Ivor: Yes...
yes... that is super...
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in other words, it's
almost as if God is showing us
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the things that
happened in the Old Testament
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are written for our admonition
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upon whom the ends
of the world are come.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: Right, this is
why Revelation chapter 12
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and Revelation chapter 14 talks
about this end-time movement
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that do two things.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: They keep
the commandments of God
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specifically
highlighting which commandment?
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The Sabbath
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and they have the
testimony of Jesus.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: So, the
70 weeks and the...
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I'm sorry... the 70 years
and the 70 weeks perform...
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I mean, provide a blueprint
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for what will happen under the
New Covenant time prophecies.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: Does that make
sense? James: It makes sense...
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it makes sense
because in Revelation 12,
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the woman is... the woman
gives birth to the man-child
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which is Jesus Christ
so, Jesus Christ is born...
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that woman represents the Jewish
church first and foremost,
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in other words,
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so, you got the Jewish church
being represented there...
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the woman comes forth
from the Jewish church...
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Jesus is a Jew... born a Jew
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and then the woman
flees into the wilderness
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and as she comes
out of the wilderness,
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she's then pictured as
keeping the commandments of God
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and having the
testimony of Jesus.
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So, the connection
then in Revelation 12
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with the Old and
the New Testament...
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were all
connected together in this.
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We can't discard
the Old Testament
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and Daniel is... in a
sense... is that thread
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that weaves through the
Old and the New Testament.
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It keeps God's people
all connected together
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because when we
get into Daniel 9
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and then Daniel 10, 11 and 12,
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Daniel is told about
his people... his people...
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"Seal up the
book... " your people...
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your people... your people...
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well, his people are
us... his people are us.
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When you connect Daniel
and Revelation together,
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the... the church goes through
this wilderness transition
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and comes out on the other side
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as the Remnant who
keep the commandments of God
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and the
testimony of Jesus Christ,
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so, it makes perfect sense.
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Ivor: Absolutely... we...
we, in our previous studies,
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including in our
Revelation Series...
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we talked about
the 1260 and the 2300
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and... and I just want to...
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you know, hone in
on this a little more.
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The 70 weeks,
we're going to see,
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takes us up to the
ministry of Jesus, okay,
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so, that... that's practically
still an Old-Covenant prophecy.
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It begins in the
Medo-Persian empire
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and it goes all the way
up to the ministry of Jesus
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and like I said, we'll get
into more detail with that...
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the new covenant comes about
as a result of that ministry.
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Then we move into
New-Covenant time, right...
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and in New-Covenant
time, you have two prophecies.
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You have the 1260
and you have the 2300...
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so, what I'm saying is
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the 70 years and 70
weeks of the Old Covenant
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parallels the 1260 and
the 2300 of the New Covenant.
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James: Hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: Right? Let me break
that down a little bit further.
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During the 70 weeks, where
are the children of Israel?
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James: In captivity in Babylon.
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Ivor: They're in Babylon...
James: During the 70 years.
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Ivor: I'm sorry...
during the 70 years,
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they are in Babylon, right?
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Babylon has... has
attacked the law of God...
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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the saints of God...
James: And the sanctuary.
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Ivor: The... the
sanctuary has been cast down.
00:22:19.53\00:22:21.60
James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: The saints of
God have been persecuted.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: If you remember
our previous study on...
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on the 1260 years
which is the Dark Ages,
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this is exactly what's going on.
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James: Yeah.
00:22:33.42\00:22:34.75
Ivor: Mystery Babylon has
scattered the people of God...
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the sanctuary is
cast down. James: Right.
00:22:37.99\00:22:40.52
Ivor: Times and
laws have changed, right.
00:22:40.56\00:22:43.06
Now you parallel the 70 weeks
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in which the
sanctuary is to be restored.
00:22:47.50\00:22:51.47
James: Right.
00:22:51.50\00:22:52.83
Ivor: Right?
00:22:52.87\00:22:54.20
Then they've got this decree to
go back and rebuild the temple
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and rebuild the city.
00:22:57.64\00:22:58.97
The sanctuary is to be restored
and it's going to culminate
00:22:59.01\00:23:02.68
with this judgment for Israel.
00:23:02.71\00:23:08.52
If... if you don't
do X... Y... and Z...
00:23:08.55\00:23:12.75
probation is going to
close on you as a nation.
00:23:12.79\00:23:16.76
What's happening in
the 2300-day prophecy?
00:23:16.79\00:23:21.20
We're going to see that
it... it... it parallels it
00:23:21.23\00:23:25.93
in an amazing way.
00:23:25.97\00:23:27.37
There is a sanctuary
that is being restored...
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there is a judgment
that is going to come...
00:23:30.54\00:23:33.58
and those who refuse to submit
to... to... to the process,
00:23:33.61\00:23:38.61
are going to find
themselves in the same situation
00:23:38.68\00:23:42.65
that occurred at
the end of the 70 weeks
00:23:42.68\00:23:44.72
which was the destruction
of Jerusalem by this power
00:23:44.75\00:23:50.03
that we just identified as
the King of the North in 70 AD.
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James: Yeah.
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Yvonne: Laughing.
00:24:00.04\00:24:02.04
James: And can we
define X... Y... and Z...
00:24:02.10\00:24:04.04
if you don't do
X... Y... and Z...
00:24:04.07\00:24:05.94
can we just
define that real quick?
00:24:05.97\00:24:07.78
So, in the days
00:24:07.84\00:24:09.54
of the fulfillment
of the 70-week prophecy,
00:24:09.58\00:24:12.45
X... Y... and Z... was:
00:24:12.48\00:24:14.28
accepting Jesus Christ
as your personal Messiah.
00:24:14.32\00:24:16.65
He's your Messiah...
He's your deliverer...
00:24:16.69\00:24:19.12
He's the One
that comes for you...
00:24:19.15\00:24:20.49
He's the One that's
going to deliver you
00:24:20.52\00:24:22.36
from sins...
transgressions and iniquities
00:24:22.39\00:24:25.06
and in the end of
time, X... Y... and Z... is:
00:24:25.09\00:24:27.76
accepting Jesus
Christ as your Messiah.
00:24:27.80\00:24:29.43
Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:24:29.46\00:24:30.93
James: He's your deliverer...
He's your salvation...
00:24:30.97\00:24:32.43
He's going to deliver you
00:24:32.47\00:24:33.80
from your sins...
transgressions and iniquities,
00:24:33.84\00:24:35.20
does that make sense?
00:24:35.24\00:24:36.91
X... Y... and
Z... isn't complicated,
00:24:36.94\00:24:39.34
it all points to
Jesus every single time.
00:24:39.37\00:24:41.28
Yvonne: Wow!
00:24:41.31\00:24:42.64
James: Jesus is all
through the book of Daniel.
00:24:42.68\00:24:45.11
Jesus is the One who is the Rock
00:24:45.15\00:24:47.32
that hits the image at the feet.
00:24:47.35\00:24:49.38
Jesus is in the
furnace with the...
00:24:49.42\00:24:51.29
with the three worthies, right?
00:24:51.32\00:24:53.09
He... He is the One that
is present in that assembly
00:24:53.12\00:24:56.56
when Daniel says,
00:24:56.59\00:24:58.23
"Hey, in Him you live and
move and have your being...
00:24:58.29\00:25:00.43
He gives you breath and all
things... " Daniel chapter 5.
00:25:00.50\00:25:02.66
He is... He is the Son of
Man in Daniel chapter 7...
00:25:02.70\00:25:05.57
hold on there, Ivor...
00:25:05.60\00:25:06.97
Jesus Christ is the Prince...
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the Mediator in
Daniel chapter 8, right?
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Yvonne: Yeah.
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James: Jesus Christ is in
the Lion's Den with Daniel
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in chapter 6.
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Jesus Christ is the
Messiah that does away with sin,
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transgression and
iniquity in Daniel chapter 9.
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He's Michael that helps
Gabriel in Daniel chapter 10.
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He is the Prince of
the covenant that is...
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that is cut off in
Daniel chapter 11...
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Jesus is the... is the
Prince who delivers His people
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in Daniel chapter 12
in that time of trouble.
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Jason: Wow! Yvonne: Ooooh!
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James: Jesus is all
through the book of Daniel
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and so, X... Y... and Z...
is always Jesus Christ, amen.
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Jason: Yeah.
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Yvonne: Wow! I
want to shout right now.
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Jason: We could end
this season right now.
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Yvonne: Oh Man! that is so rich.
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Ivor: Let me share
this very quickly, okay
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that there's a difference
between the X... Y... and Z...
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of the 70 weeks
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and the X... Y... and
Z... of the 2300 years.
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If you look in the book of Acts,
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Man! I'm not going
to be able to do this,
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Peter says, "Repent for
the remission of sins. "
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That is what Jesus came to do.
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He came to put us in remission
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but when you're in remission,
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it doesn't mean
that you have been...
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it doesn't mean
you've been cured from sin...
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it can always come back.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
hmmm... James: Hmmm...
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Ivor: On the Day of Atonement,
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it represented the
blotting out of sin.
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James: That's right.
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Ivor: Watch this...
James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: We're all in
remission right now.
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Sin can come back
at any moment for us
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but the final
closing work of Jesus
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is to bring us into total...
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is to cure us from sin.
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James: Hmmm...
hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: The 70 weeks points
to the remission of sins...
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the 2300 days points to
the blotting out of sins
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and that is what
we're going to see unfolded
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in a beautiful way
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when we get to really
unpacking this 2300 days.
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James: Amen... amen.
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So, just as we close now
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because we've only
got a few seconds left,
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we just want to summarize...
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it's very clear as we
look at these prophecies
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and as we look at the
book of Daniel as a whole...
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that this is all about Jesus...
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that Jesus is the
X... Y... and Z...
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whether He's
coming the first time
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to move us into
that remission stage
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or whether He's
coming the last time...
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or closing up His
work the last time
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to move us into that
blotting-out stage...
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it's all about Jesus
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and that's what we
want our focus to be
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as we move into
these prophecies.
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We haven't gotten into Daniel
chapter 9 but we're going to...
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we're going to move in there
in our next session together
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but as we leave Daniel
8, we're still putting...
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we're still leaving
verses 13 and 14 on the table.
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We want to talk
and focus on this
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2300-Day Prophecy in more detail
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and we will when we
get to Daniel chapter 9.
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Yvonne: Yes. James: Praise God.
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Yvonne: Amen. James: Praise God.
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Ivor: Amen.
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