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James: Okay, we got a
good start in Daniel chapter 8
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and we're going to continue...
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and we're going to
roll right through...
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we've so far
understood, that this vision
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is similar to the vision
that Daniel had in Chapter 7
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and in Chapter 2...
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only different
animals or different symbols.
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We also noted
that in this vision,
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we have Medo Persia being the
first power instead of Babylon.
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This vision was
given before Babylon fell
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so, God was telling
Daniel ahead of time
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about the demise of Babylon
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and then we've identified that
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God is spending just a little
bit of time on Medo Persia
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and a little bit
of time on Greece
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so that we can get our footings
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but He's emphasizing now this
power that comes from the North,
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goes southward... eastward
and toward the Pleasant Land...
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we've identified
that Power as Rome.
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The first verse... it's pagan...
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it's making its
assault horizontally
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but in verse 10,
it is Papal Rome...
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the transition to that
assault which goes vertically
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against heaven
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and we want to really
focus in on these verses
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and try to identify
what's happening here
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in relation to the Sanctuary
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and then we're just going to...
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we're going to move
through and kind of close out
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with the last verses...
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the interpretation that
will really, I think, firm up
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what we discover in the symbols
of these verses of the vision.
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So, as we do that, Yvonne,
would you like to pray for us
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before we get started?
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Yvonne: Sure... "O Lord,
we thank You so very much
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for the privilege
of studying Your Word
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and learning and just...
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we thank You for the privilege
of having You in our midst
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because we know
that You're with us
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so, we thank You for the
power of Your Holy Spirit.
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Right now, we pray for
Your guidance and direction
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as we study.
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Thank You Lord, in
Jesus' name, amen. "
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All: Amen.
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James: Now we saw
that an attack took place
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in the previous
vision against God's law...
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specifically, the
Little Horn was going to think
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to change times and laws.
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Now, he only thinks to do that
because he can't actually do it.
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God's law is unchangeable.
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Yvonne: Right.
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James: It is the
foundation of His government
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and it can't be changed
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but in the minds and
hearts of millions of people,
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he has "thought"
to change God's law.
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That's why people
today believe that Sunday
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is the Biblical day of worship
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when the Bible actually
teaches, believe it or not
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that Saturday is the
Biblical day of worship.
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Saturday is the
7th day of the week
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and that's all
through Scripture.
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I say this because
I was raised Catholic
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and I was raised
believing Sunday was the day
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and I thought it was ridiculous
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that people went
to church on Saturday
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until I started reading
and studying from the Bible.
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So, the same thing is
happening in Daniel chapter 8.
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At attack is
being made this time
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on another part of
what we call, "The Covenant"
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or the "Holy Covenant of God"
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and we want to
read a couple of verses
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Jason, if you would,
let's read in Hebrews...
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the New
Testament... Hebrews chapter 10
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so that we can make a connection
between Daniel 7 and 8
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and the New Covenant that
God has promised to fulfill
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in His faithful believers.
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Hebrews chapter 10...
and let's just read... Jason,
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verses 16 and 17.
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Jason: Okay,
"This is the covenant
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that I will make with them
after those days, says the Lord,
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I will put My
laws into their hearts,
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and in their minds,
I will write them... "
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then he adds: "their sins...
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their sins and
their lawless deeds
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I will remember no more. "
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James: And then,
read verse 18 too.
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Jason: "Now where
there is remission of these,
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there is no longer
an offering for sin. "
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James: Okay, so
this new covenant,
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according to these
verses has two parts.
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When you read it in Hebrews
8, you're going to find five...
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but here there
are two emphasis...
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parts that are emphasized.
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The first one is the law of God
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and the second one is
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the forgiveness of sins
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which comes through
the Mediation of Christ
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in the heavenly sanctuary.
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So, the law of God was
attacked in Daniel 7 verse 25
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and now the mediation
of Christ is being attacked
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in Daniel 8... you see that?
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: So much so, that when
we get to Daniel chapter 11,
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do you know what word
is used over and over again
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to describe the
attack of the Little Horn?
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The holy covenant,
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the holy
covenant... the holy covenant
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the holy covenant...
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he will have the indignation
against the holy covenant.
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He will have
intelligence with those who
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forsake the holy
covenant... so shall he do.
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The Prince of the
covenant will be brought down.
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So, basically, Daniel
2... Daniel 7... Daniel 8...
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are laying the groundwork
for identifying this power
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that's attacking God's covenant.
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In Daniel 11, you
have the summary...
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he's against the covenant.
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In Daniel 7... details...
he's against the law...
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that's a vital
part of the covenant.
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In Daniel 8... details...
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he's against the
forgiveness of sins
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and the mediation of Christ.
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That's another vital part
of the covenant, you see that?
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: If you looked at
the entire book of Daniel...
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you took an overview of
the entire book of Daniel...
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the message that
would be communicating,
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I think above
every other message
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is covenant
relationship with God.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: The covenant
relationship with God
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because... look at this...
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in Daniel chapter
1 you have a... a man
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who purposes...
purposes in his heart
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that he will be true to God.
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That's relationship...
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that's
commitment and relationship.
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Then God begins to fulfill
His covenant through this man,
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He writes His law in Daniel and
his friends' hearts and minds
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so they don't
worship that... that image...
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they don't worship
on the pain of death...
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being thrown in the furnace,
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they stay true to
God all the way through
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in this relationship
and they're filled...
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over and over
again it says of Daniel
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that there was a
different spirit in him...
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there was a
different spirit in him...
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there was a
different spirit in him
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and that's the same
promise that we're given
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in the new covenant
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that God's going to
put His Spirit in us...
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He's going to be our God and
we're going to be His people.
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He's going to put His law
in our hearts and minds...
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and our sins and iniquities,
He's going to remember no more
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and God's the One
that does all this.
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It wasn't us...
it wasn't Daniel...
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it was God that was doing this.
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So, the whole book of Daniel
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is all about
covenant relationship.
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Yvonne: Wow!
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James: And do you know who
hates covenant relationship
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with God?
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Do you know who hated
covenant relationship with God
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in the Garden of Eden?
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
hmmm... Jason: The devil.
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James: The
devil... serpent... Satan...
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he came in there to disrupt
that covenant relationship.
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How does he do that?
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Well, in Daniel
8, it's really clear
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but it's symbolic.
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He does that by
attacking first of all...
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the host of heaven
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and that's how he did
it in the Garden of Eden.
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Satan's attack was against
God first and foremost, right?
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Yvonne: Right... right.
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James: When...
when Satan attacks...
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Satan came
against Eve really subtly
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and he came against Adam subtly
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but he really was attacking God
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because he said to
Adam and he said to Eve...
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well, he said to Eve primarily,
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he said, "God knows
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that when you eat this fruit,
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you'll be like Him...
knowing good and evil. "
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See how... who is he...
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he's attacking
the host of heaven.
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Yvonne: Right.
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James: He's attacking the
Prince of the host of heaven
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but he's also... we're
also involved in that attack
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and that is what is summarized
here in verse 10, basically,
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"He waxed great, even
to the host of heaven;
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and it cast
down some of the host
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and the stars to the ground,
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and stamped upon them... "
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that's God's people are
likened to stars in Daniel 12
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verse 3... "Yea,
he magnified himself
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even to the Prince of
the host... that's Christ
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took the daily away from Him,
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and the place of His
sanctuary was cast down. "
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Now, this is talking
not about the literalness
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of the heavenly sanctuary
being cast to the earth...
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in the sense that, you
know, somehow that building...
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that... that work...
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no, that continues
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just like the law
of God continues...
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the sanctuary in
heaven continues...
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the mediation
of Christ continues
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but in the minds and
hearts of millions of people...
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so, I was raised in
the Catholic Church.
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I was raised in the System
that has been identified here...
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I was raised an Altar Boy.
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Every Sunday...
I went to Church,
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I put on the
robe... priestly robe...
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I had the candlestick...
the candlesticks...
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the priest went before me or
behind me with the incense...
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when I walked into
the Catholic Church,
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I put my hand in the
bowl... the basin of holy water
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and did the crucifix...
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all of this is a counterfeit...
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as we walked
through the church...
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and this was in London,
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there was the Courtyard area,
where all the people sat...
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then there was a little fence
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that separated them from
where we went with the priest
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and that was the Holy Place.
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Jason: Oh wow!
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James: And the priest would
go to the back of the church
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and he would open up the veil
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and he would talk out the host
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which was supposed to
be the presence of God...
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the Most Holy Place...
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Yvonne: My!
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James:
Everything is counterfeited.
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When he did the Mass,
I would ring a bell...
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remember the bell
on the garments...
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the bottom of the
garments. Yvonne: Yes... yes...
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James: I would ring a
bell when he lifted it up,
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I would ring a
bell... when he lifted up...
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I would ring a
bell as an Altar Boy.
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So, the place of His sanctuary
in heaven was cast down...
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it's not literally
taking that literal sanctuary
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and casting it down
but it's counterfeiting it.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: It's setting up
a counterfeit sanctuary.
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Before I would go to Mass...
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before I would go
into this Service...
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I would go into the little box
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and I would confess
my sins to the priest
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and he would tell
me that I needed to say
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so many "Our Fathers"
and so many "Hail Marys"
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and I could be forgiven.
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So, the intercession
of forgiveness of sins...
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all of it is being counterfeited
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and millions of
Catholics believe in this
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counterfeit system.
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I believed for years that
this was way I was forgiven,
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this was the way I was
going to have salvation
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but this is not what
Daniel 8 is telling us...
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Daniel 8 is telling us,
there is a heavenly Mediator,
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there's a
heavenly High Priest...
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there is a heavenly sanctuary
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and that this is a counterfeit
to the heavenly sanctuary...
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he's exalted himself
against the heavenly sanctuary
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and he has cast all of
that down in intent and purpose
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but we need to get
our eyes directed here
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and I'm jumping ahead now
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but in a huge way it was 1844
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that the sanctuary in heaven
was "rediscovered" in a sense
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and people began to realize,
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"Hey, there's a
sanctuary in heaven
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and it has a law
in the Most Holy Place
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and there's a Mediator there
that we can pray directly to...
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we don't have to go through
a... a human mediation. "
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1844 was a breaking
moment for millions of people
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that eventually affected me
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as someone who
was raised a Catholic
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but eventually became
a Seventh-day Adventist.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: Powerful
stuff. Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Yvonne: That is very powerful.
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Ivor: I will... let me...
let me add this here, James,
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you were talking about Daniel
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and how Daniel represented a
covenant relationship with God.
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James: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Ivor: So, it's
important to understand
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what's happening with Jerusalem
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at the time that this
prophecy is given, okay,
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they have been...
they are in captivity
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to who?
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To Babylon.
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What has Babylon done?
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They have
scattered the holy people...
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James: Yeah.
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Ivor: They have
desecrated the sanctuary.
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This is what's happened
over that 70-year period...
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that started
that 70-year period...
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the temple is destroyed...
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during their stay in Babylon,
there's an image set up...
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yeah, Daniel
chapter... that's Daniel 3...
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there's an image set up.
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The law of God is attacked...
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you know, "bow
down before this image"
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and, of course,
that's a violation
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of the second commandment.
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The things that are
happening in Babylon...
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the fiery furnace...
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"If you don't bow down... "
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the law in... or
rather... you know, Daniel 2
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and the vision of... of
these different nations...
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all these things
happening in literal Babylon
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are foreshadowing
what Daniel sees is to come
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with the end-time
Babylon that we spoke about
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when we went through
the book of Revelation.
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James: Yeah.
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Ivor: So, this
is super significant
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because Daniel
is living in Babylon
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and he's living
this relationship,
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you know, this
covenant relationship with God
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in the midst of
Babylon doing these things
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so, again, when
he hears this vision
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of this power that's going
to cast down the sanctuary...
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again in his mind, he's like,
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"The sanctuary is
already cast down...
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what are you talking about?"
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All: Laughter.
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Ivor: Right... and the
temple being restored...
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that's supposed to happen soon
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because he's familiar
with Jeremiah's prophecy
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of these 70 years
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so, this is very important
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when we start talking about
context of this vision, right?
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and there's
something very interesting...
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we have not talked about...
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we haven't
gotten into Daniel 9 yet
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but there is a really...
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there are two time
prophecies in the Old Covenant.
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They are the 70 years
and then the 70 weeks...
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that's really it...
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when we went through
the book of Revelation,
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and even in the book of Daniel,
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we see this 1260
and we see this 2,300.
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Those time prophecies
belong to the new covenant.
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James: Hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: Right? The 70
weeks... we're going to see
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brings us down to a
certain period of time
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and transitions us
into the new covenant.
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We'll see that when
we get to Daniel 9...
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but strictly speaking,
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you have the 70-year prophecy
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where they are in
captivity in Babylon
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and then the 70-week prophecy
which we're going to see
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revolves around this
idea of a rebuilt temple...
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a rebuilt city
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and a judgment to
take place on Israel.
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James: Hmmm...
hmmm. Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: Those two Old
Testament time prophecies
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we're going to see paralleled
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the New
Testament time prophecies
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because we're going to see
the 1260 relates to Babylon
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and this mystical Babylon power
scattering the people of God...
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destroying the temple...
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desolating the temple
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and then the 2300-year prophecy
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which we've
spoken about previously
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revolving around the cleansing
or the restoring of this temple,
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so, in a sense... these 70 years
that Daniel is going through
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and then the 70
weeks lays a platform...
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a foundation
for us to understand
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what we're
talking about right now...
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the 1260 and the 2300.
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James: Okay.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... that's rich.
00:15:14.01\00:15:15.74
James: So, we got to look
forward to getting into Daniel 9
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which is coming up really soon
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because Daniel 9 is an
explanation of Daniel 8.
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you see, Daniel... even though
Daniel is given an explanation
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in... in this chapter
of what he's been shown,
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he still doesn't get it.
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So, first of all... and
I think this is really...
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really important
for us, first of all...
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he's given the vision which
connects to the previous vision
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so, he gets some of it.
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I would say... he
gets it by degrees
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and we've read through
it and we get some of it
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but then there's more
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and like Ivor said, the 2300-day
prophecy just blows him away
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because... in fact, if
indeed he's thinking in his mind
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the sanctuary is
already destroyed
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and then he ends up reading that
it's going to be restored...
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then he realizes... but it's
going to be destroyed again.
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Can you imagine a double whammy?
00:16:03.06\00:16:04.43
Yvonne: Yeah.
00:16:04.46\00:16:05.79
James: For... for us to realize
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that it's going up but then
it's going to go down again.
00:16:07.80\00:16:09.13
Yvonne: Right.
00:16:09.16\00:16:10.50
James: That could be
overwhelming for any person
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and so, as Daniel
goes through this,
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he comes to the
place where he is given...
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and I think it's because
we need to understand this.
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God is giving
Daniel more understanding
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because He knows how important
it is for us to get this right
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because... I'll tell you what?
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Christians are
all over the place
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when it comes to Daniel 8 and 9,
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we're all over
the place with this...
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even as Adventists,
we're all over the place.
00:16:29.92\00:16:31.32
So, if we look at this
and... and allow it for example,
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there's a big
controversy over the "daily. "
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:16:37.16\00:16:38.49
James: Is the "daily" paganism
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or is the "daily" the
mediation of Jesus Christ?
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And we're divided on that
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and it's very controversial
among us sometimes,
00:16:43.13\00:16:45.73
people will
actually make it a test issue
00:16:45.77\00:16:47.34
but it doesn't need to be.
00:16:47.37\00:16:48.90
You know, if you define
the taking away of the "daily"
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as taking away paganism,
00:16:51.87\00:16:53.41
because that's what a
lot of our pioneers believed
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that the "daily" was
paganism it taken out of the way
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and then the
Papacy came in its place.
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Then the Papal
System, of course,
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has done the same thing...
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it's obscured the
ministration of Christ...
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it set up the
counterfeit sanctuary...
00:17:04.95\00:17:06.76
it set up a
counterfeit mediation,
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you know, priesthood...
00:17:08.19\00:17:09.52
if you believe that
the "daily" represents
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the mediation of Christ,
00:17:11.73\00:17:13.06
that the mediation of
Christ has been taken away
00:17:13.09\00:17:14.76
by the Papacy...
00:17:14.80\00:17:16.13
it set up a
counterfeit sanctuary...
00:17:16.16\00:17:17.50
do you see what I'm
saying? Yvonne: Yeah.
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James: We don't have to
argue about that because...
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Ivor: There's no difference...
00:17:20.54\00:17:21.87
James: The
conclusion is the same.
00:17:21.90\00:17:23.24
yeah, the view is
basically the same.
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Yvonne: Right.
00:17:24.64\00:17:25.97
James: But... but when we
talk about the taking away
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of the "daily" in relationship
to the word "sacrifice"
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that word was actually
added by the translators...
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it doesn't belong to the text...
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so, if you just use the
word "daily" by itself...
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take away the "daily"
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if you do a word search through
the Bible on the word "daily"
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it's really interesting
what you're going to find,
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let me just read
you some text on this...
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they're really powerful
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and that we can read
these forever and ever...
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just wait till we start...
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the first one I'm
going to read to you
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is found in Psalm 16 verse 8,
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okay, I'm going to read the text
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and I want you to try to
tell me where the word "daily"
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the original word "tamid"
00:17:58.37\00:17:59.71
that original
word is in the text.
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"I've set the
LORD always before me:
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because He is at my right
hand, I shall not be moved. "
00:18:04.78\00:18:08.85
Anyone know where the
word "daily" is in that?
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Ivor: Hand. James: Hand?
00:18:12.45\00:18:17.66
Ivor: Yes, is that the
word? James: No, it's not "hand"
00:18:17.69\00:18:20.43
the word "daily"
means the perpetual...
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the continual... the regular...
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"I have set the Lord... "
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I'm going to emphasize
this time as we go through it
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and see if we can get it.
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"I've set the Lord
always before me... "
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Jason: Always...
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Ivor: Jason... you are
right Man and you got it.
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James: Okay, let me...
let me read this next verse...
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let me read this next
verse, Psalm 34 verse 1,
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and I'm not going
to emphasize this.
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"I will bless the
LORD at all times:
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His praise shall
continually be in my mouth. "
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Pause...
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Ivor: Mouth.
Yvonne: Continually.
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James: Continually... always...
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okay, here's another one,
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Ivor, you're falling
short here, here's another one,
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this is Psalm 35:27-28,
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Ivor: I'm going to get this one.
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James: "Let them
shout for joy, and be glad,
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that favour my righteous cause:
00:19:04.81\00:19:07.38
yea, let them say continually,
00:19:07.41\00:19:09.68
'the Lord be magnified... '"
00:19:09.71\00:19:11.91
all right...
here's... here's another one...
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Psalm 40 verse 11,
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"Withhold not thine
tender mercies from me, O Lord:
00:19:16.82\00:19:19.79
let they
lovingkindness and they truth
00:19:19.82\00:19:21.36
continually preserve me. "
00:19:21.39\00:19:22.72
Yvonne: Continually.
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James: Yeah, so these...
this is how the word is used,
00:19:24.13\00:19:26.49
the word "daily" in the Hebrew
00:19:26.56\00:19:28.76
was connected
with the sanctuary.
00:19:28.83\00:19:31.00
It described the continual
offering that was made...
00:19:31.03\00:19:34.10
the continual
light that was burning...
00:19:34.14\00:19:35.94
the continual mediation of
the priest for the people...
00:19:35.97\00:19:38.31
the... the continual
incense that was burning...
00:19:38.37\00:19:41.01
the continual... the
regular... the "tamid"
00:19:41.04\00:19:44.21
and it's used
throughout Scripture to describe
00:19:44.25\00:19:47.38
our continual praise of God...
00:19:47.42\00:19:49.48
our continual
reliance upon God...
00:19:49.52\00:19:51.59
our continual looking to God.
00:19:51.62\00:19:53.29
Continue to keep
God's law and his statutes.
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All through Scripture, in
fact, Isaiah 58... famous verse
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about the Sabbath.
00:20:01.26\00:20:03.40
"If thou turn thy
foot from the Sabbath,
00:20:03.43\00:20:05.97
from doing thy own
pleasure on my holy day;
00:20:06.03\00:20:08.54
I will guide
thee continually... "
00:20:08.57\00:20:11.67
daily... continually... daily...
00:20:11.71\00:20:14.74
so, when it says this power is
trying to take away the "daily"
00:20:14.78\00:20:18.31
are you trying...
00:20:18.38\00:20:19.75
are you seeing now what
he's trying to take away?
00:20:19.81\00:20:21.32
He's trying to take away our
continual reliance upon Christ,
00:20:21.35\00:20:26.05
our continual
praising of Christ...
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our continual resting in Christ,
00:20:28.42\00:20:30.06
that's what the
Sabbath is about.
00:20:30.13\00:20:31.46
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:20:31.49\00:20:32.83
James: Our continual
relationship with Christ.
00:20:32.86\00:20:34.26
See, we are self-sufficient
00:20:34.30\00:20:35.76
so, Peter has this
relationship with Christ
00:20:35.80\00:20:37.40
and Peter says,
"Lord, if it be...
00:20:37.43\00:20:41.44
let me walk on the water. "
00:20:41.47\00:20:43.00
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:20:43.04\00:20:44.74
James: And Christ
says, "Come on out... "
00:20:44.77\00:20:46.44
and so, he gets
out on the water...
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he's walking on the water...
00:20:47.84\00:20:49.18
and as he keeps
his gaze continually...
00:20:49.21\00:20:52.08
his gaze continually on
Christ, he continues to walk...
00:20:52.11\00:20:54.25
as soon as he
takes his gaze off Christ
00:20:54.28\00:20:56.12
and looks back at
the guys and says,
00:20:56.18\00:20:57.65
"Hey, look at
me... " what happens?
00:20:57.69\00:20:59.02
Yvonne: He sinks.
James: Down he goes...
00:20:59.05\00:21:00.76
continually focused on Christ...
00:21:00.79\00:21:03.79
following the
Lamb wherever He goes.
00:21:03.83\00:21:06.13
There's a connection
between Daniel and Revelation...
00:21:06.16\00:21:08.86
we've seeing the
connection right here...
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the Papacy is not
primarily seeking to take away
00:21:10.27\00:21:13.90
a sanctuary in heaven.
00:21:13.94\00:21:15.27
It's not enough for
us simply to know...
00:21:15.30\00:21:16.77
there's a sanctuary in
heaven and the one on earth
00:21:16.81\00:21:18.14
is in the counterfeit...
00:21:18.17\00:21:19.51
he's trying to take away
what that sanctuary represents.
00:21:19.54\00:21:21.24
It represents
continual reliance on Jesus...
00:21:21.28\00:21:25.05
continual reliance
on His sacrifice...
00:21:25.08\00:21:27.62
continual
reliance on His mediation.
00:21:27.65\00:21:30.12
He takes away... now notice...
00:21:30.15\00:21:31.75
what he does as he does this...
00:21:31.79\00:21:33.36
he takes away the
"daily" he gives...
00:21:33.39\00:21:36.73
"The host is given against
the daily... " verse 12...
00:21:36.76\00:21:39.13
"and a host was
given him against the daily
00:21:39.16\00:21:41.86
by reason of transgression,
00:21:41.90\00:21:43.23
and he cast the
truth to the ground;
00:21:43.26\00:21:44.70
and practiced, and prospered.
" What does that mean?
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If the "daily" represents
the mediation of Christ
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and His forgiveness,
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the only way that the
Papacy can get around that
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is if he says, "You know what?
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doesn't matter
if you transgress...
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doesn't matter if
you break the law...
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you can just come back to me...
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put a little
money in the coffer...
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do a little
praying... do little works...
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and you're good. "
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And people saying,
"Hey, yeah, I like that...
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I like that... "
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most people would
rather choose that System
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than Christ's System
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because Christ's System says,
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"Not only am I
going to forgive you,
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but I'm going to cleanse you. "
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If we confess our sins,
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He's faithful and
just to forgive us our sins
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and to cleanse us
from all unrighteousness.
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He's going to cleanse us
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so, because of transgression,
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a lot of people
joined this Power...
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do you see that?
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A large host is given to
him by reason of transgression
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because they're allowed
to continue transgressing...
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so if you want to be saved
by works... join that church.
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If you want to be saved by
purgatory... join that church,
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if you... no matter
what the scenario is...
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no matter if you want to be
holy and saved by your works
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or you want to just kind of get
into heaven by your bootstrap,
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you know what I'm
saying? Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: You can join by
reason of transgression...
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a large host were joined to them
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and it
practiced and it prospered
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because people would rather...
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Jason: Stay in
their comfort zone.
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James: Yes, they'd
rather continue to live
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the lifestyle
they want to live...
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just go... make a confession...
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pay a little bit
of money... go back.
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Yvonne: Penance...
James: Yeah, little penance
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and then go
back to the lifestyle
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but the Reformers...
and we are Reformers...
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called people to
change their lives...
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Martin Luther said, "No, I'm
not going to take that money...
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I'm not going to take
any of those indulgences...
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you're coming to
the wrong priest,
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you need to have
your life transformed
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and reformed and changed... "
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and that's the message
that God is giving to us
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in the context of these verses.
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Yvonne: Amen,
I've read this before
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and I never saw this...
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this is so rich!
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I never saw this whole
connection with the covenants
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and all that and
it just makes it...
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it all ties in that
this is a part of the...
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the covenant relationship.
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James: And it's
practical. Yvonne: Yeah.
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James: This is daily
living. Yvonne: Yeah.
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James: This is
righteousness by faith...
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this is what
God is calling us to
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and how long was it going to be
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that this Power is
going to continue to practice
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and millions of
people are going to follow...
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until the
sanctuary is cleansed...
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until that hour of
judgment takes place
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and we'll look at that
tomorrow in more detail
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but I want you to
notice something now,
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Jason, can you read for
us, just read for us verses 23
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all the way
through verse 25, 23 to 25.
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Jason: Okay, "And in the
latter time of their kingdom,
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when the transgressors
have reached their fullness,
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a king shall arise,
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having fierce features,
00:24:31.37\00:24:32.70
who understands
sinister schemes.
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His power shall be mighty,
but not by his own power;
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he shall destroy fearfully,
and shall prosper and thrive;
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he shall destroy the mighty,
and also the holy people.
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Through his cunning he
shall cause deceit to prosper
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under his rule;
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and he shall exalt
himself in his heart.
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He shall destroy
many in their prosperity.
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He shall even rise
against the Prince of princes;
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but he shall be
broken without human means. "
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James: This is the
angel's interpretation
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of what we've
just read in Daniel 8,
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you see what I'm
saying? Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: You read
Daniel 8 and you're like,
00:25:09.74\00:25:11.07
"Oh, I guess the host... "
00:25:11.11\00:25:12.44
then you read these... these...
these verses that basically
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give us more understanding
of the verse that we just read
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and it just
confirms it, doesn't it?
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You see this power can be none
other than that Papal Power...
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that Roman Power. Yvonne: Right.
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James: Because it
comes through here
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by peace
destroying wonderfully...
00:25:27.89\00:25:29.49
it says, "he's going to do
it but not by his own power... "
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so, the Papacy is using
other civil powers to do this.
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It says that his
power would be great...
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he would destroy wonderfully...
00:25:39.40\00:25:40.74
he would destroy
the holy people...
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through his policy,
00:25:42.14\00:25:43.47
he would cause crafts
to prosper in his hand.
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By peace he would destroy many,
00:25:45.34\00:25:47.28
he would stand up
against the Prince of princes...
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and magnify himself
against this and against Him
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and then in verse 26,
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"The vision of the
evening and the morning
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which was told you is true;
00:25:57.15\00:25:58.49
wherefore shut up the vision,
for it shall be for many days"
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and what does Daniel do
after he comes out of vision?
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Yvonne: He fainted.
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James: He faints...
"Whoa... what does this mean?
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I don't get this. "
00:26:08.66\00:26:10.00
And as Ivor was saying earlier
that that's because he's...
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he's contrasting... right?
00:26:11.50\00:26:13.10
Revelation... I
mean, excuse me...
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the 2300-day prophecy
with the 70-year prophecy...
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the sanctuary
that's already desolate
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with the sanctuary
that's going to be rebuilt
00:26:19.67\00:26:21.04
and then be made
desolate again...
00:26:21.08\00:26:22.41
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:26:22.44\00:26:23.78
James: That's
overwhelming to him.
00:26:23.81\00:26:25.15
So, Daniel is being shown
what's going to take place
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down toward the end of time.
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It says in verse 23 again,
00:26:29.38\00:26:31.42
"And in the latter
time of their kingdom... "
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in the latter time of
the kingdom of Medo Persia
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and then Greece...
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in the latter time of
the kingdom of Rome...
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Pagan Rome... in the
latter time of that kingdom...
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a king is going to stand up...
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that's the transition
to Papal Rome that we saw
00:26:43.50\00:26:46.03
taking place in verse 10
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when he waxes great
to the host of heaven
00:26:48.44\00:26:50.44
and cast the stars to the
ground and stamps upon them
00:26:50.47\00:26:53.24
in... in... in
verse 23, he's standing up
00:26:53.27\00:26:57.38
and in verse 24, he's destroying
the mighty and the holy people,
00:26:57.41\00:27:00.58
as we noted earlier...
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the stars of heaven
coming against God...
00:27:01.98\00:27:03.99
coming against God's people...
00:27:04.02\00:27:05.35
destroying and persecuting
God's people in verse 24,
00:27:05.39\00:27:08.36
making it really clear.
00:27:08.39\00:27:09.72
So, Daniel gets the history,
00:27:09.76\00:27:13.13
"Oh yeah, Medo
Persia... got that...
00:27:13.16\00:27:15.30
oh yeah, Greece... got that...
00:27:15.33\00:27:16.67
oh yeah, Rome... or
whatever that power is...
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because he doesn't
know it's Rome yet...
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it hasn't been
identified, got that...
00:27:19.97\00:27:21.30
but what about this other
power... and the sanctuary...
00:27:21.34\00:27:24.61
and it being destroyed?
00:27:24.64\00:27:26.74
That's just unbelievable...
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how do we... how
do we navigate that?
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And that's where we
get into Daniel chapter 9.
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Now, Daniel 9... we're going to
sit in Daniel 9 for a long time
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because Daniel 9 is
filled with instruction
00:27:38.09\00:27:41.82
that connects to Daniel 8.
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We're not leaving
Daniel 8 in a sense...
00:27:43.22\00:27:44.89
we're not... we're
not done with Daniel 8
00:27:44.93\00:27:46.59
but we're going
to move into Daniel 9
00:27:46.63\00:27:48.20
in order to get into
Daniel 8 in more detail
00:27:48.23\00:27:50.77
and so, because our time is up,
00:27:50.80\00:27:52.77
I mean, our time is done
right now just like with Daniel,
00:27:52.80\00:27:55.77
we've got to seal
this up for a few minutes
00:27:55.80\00:27:58.37
and then come back
and really understand it.
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