Music... 00:00:01.36\00:00:30.26 James: Daniel 5 part 2... 00:00:30.29\00:00:32.49 Ivor: Part 2... 00:00:32.53\00:00:33.86 James: There's just a few verses left 00:00:33.90\00:00:35.23 but there's a lot in here. 00:00:35.26\00:00:36.60 There are some parallels with Revelation... 00:00:36.63\00:00:38.97 there's some "Christ" in here... we want to look at that 00:00:39.00\00:00:42.90 and then, there's just the explanation itself. 00:00:42.94\00:00:45.04 So, we want to make sure we don't... 00:00:45.07\00:00:47.28 really, I've been loving this Program 00:00:47.34\00:00:49.48 since we started in Revelation 00:00:49.54\00:00:51.41 because we don't have an agenda to crash course... 00:00:51.45\00:00:54.18 to rush through... 00:00:54.22\00:00:55.55 to get to a certain place at a certain time... 00:00:55.58\00:00:57.15 we're taking the texts as they come... 00:00:57.19\00:00:59.32 we're doing this... full of explanations we can do 00:00:59.35\00:01:02.12 and we're taking our time 00:01:02.16\00:01:03.49 and I think that's a really good thing for all of us. 00:01:03.53\00:01:04.99 Yvonne: I do too, I love it. 00:01:05.06\00:01:06.39 James: Yeah, I think our Viewers... 00:01:06.43\00:01:07.76 and we've had a lot of comments from our Viewers 00:01:07.80\00:01:09.53 that yeah they appreciate that we just move through it slowly, 00:01:09.56\00:01:12.43 we do a lot of summarizing and they can stick with us on this 00:01:12.47\00:01:15.34 so, I think that's... that's a good thing, yeah. 00:01:15.37\00:01:16.71 Yvonne: Yes. 00:01:16.74\00:01:18.07 James: Ivor, pray us in. 00:01:18.11\00:01:19.44 Ivor: Let's pray... "Heavenly Father, 00:01:19.47\00:01:21.08 we again come before You asking for Your Spirit to be with us 00:01:21.11\00:01:25.55 as we continue to study the book of Daniel. 00:01:25.58\00:01:28.68 Please Lord, continue to give us insight 00:01:28.72\00:01:31.72 and just bless us as we read and as we study, 00:01:31.75\00:01:36.12 we pray in Jesus' name, amen. " 00:01:36.16\00:01:37.49 All: Amen. 00:01:37.53\00:01:38.86 James: So, Jason, let's read these verses right here, 00:01:38.89\00:01:40.93 Daniel chapter 5... we left off with verse 24 I think it is, 00:01:40.96\00:01:46.60 so, 24 all the way to the end. 00:01:46.63\00:01:48.20 Jason: Okay, I might need you to ad lib on 25... 00:01:48.24\00:01:50.94 just jump in there and say these... 00:01:50.97\00:01:53.07 Yvonne: Oh, how to pronounce it. 00:01:53.11\00:01:54.44 Jason: Yeah, exactly... 00:01:54.48\00:01:55.81 James: MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN. 00:01:55.84\00:01:57.18 Jason: Yes, your part is coming up in just a second... 00:01:57.21\00:02:01.25 James: MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN. 00:02:01.28\00:02:02.62 Jason: "Then the fingers of the hand were sent from Him, 00:02:02.65\00:02:05.65 and this writing was written. 00:02:05.69\00:02:07.69 And this is the inscription that was written: 00:02:07.72\00:02:10.39 James: MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN... 00:02:10.43\00:02:12.13 Jason: Thank you... 00:02:12.19\00:02:13.70 'This is the interpretation of each word. 00:02:13.73\00:02:15.86 MENE... God has numbered your kingdom, and finished it; 00:02:15.90\00:02:19.33 TEKEL... You have been weighed in the balances, 00:02:19.37\00:02:24.17 and found wanting; 00:02:24.21\00:02:25.54 PERES... Your kingdom has been divided, 00:02:25.57\00:02:28.58 and given to the Medes and Persians. ' 00:02:28.61\00:02:31.75 Then Belshazzar gave the command, 00:02:31.81\00:02:34.78 and they clothed Daniel with purple 00:02:34.82\00:02:37.72 and put a chain of gold around his neck, 00:02:37.75\00:02:39.85 and made a proclamation concerning him 00:02:39.92\00:02:41.96 that he should be the third ruler in the kingdom. 00:02:41.99\00:02:45.66 That very night Belshazzar, king of the Chaldeans, 00:02:45.69\00:02:49.30 was slain 00:02:49.33\00:02:50.67 and Darius the Mede received the kingdom, 00:02:50.70\00:02:52.87 being about sixty-two years old. " 00:02:52.90\00:02:54.87 James: Oooooh... so there it is... 00:02:54.90\00:02:56.84 this is how we close up the reign of Babylon 00:02:56.87\00:02:59.84 and right now we have the head off... in a sense, 00:02:59.87\00:03:04.61 Babylon has come to an end 00:03:04.65\00:03:06.35 just like... was predicted to Nebuchadnezzar 00:03:06.38\00:03:08.95 now fulfilled in his grandson, Belshazzar 00:03:08.98\00:03:11.52 and God's Word is sure... 00:03:11.55\00:03:14.06 the interpretation is absolutely accurate 00:03:14.09\00:03:16.42 and we see that confirmation of prophecy right here. 00:03:16.46\00:03:19.89 Now, there's something that happened 00:03:19.93\00:03:21.70 while you were reading there, Jason, 00:03:21.73\00:03:23.37 I don't know if you noticed it 00:03:23.40\00:03:24.73 but we had a word that was used in verse 25 00:03:24.77\00:03:27.34 that was changed in verse 28 00:03:27.37\00:03:29.50 and the word that was used in verse 25 was "Upharsin" 00:03:29.57\00:03:34.18 and it was changed to "Peres" in verse 28 00:03:34.21\00:03:37.78 and all we need to know is that "Pharsin" is the plural "Peres" 00:03:37.81\00:03:43.02 that means divided... 00:03:43.08\00:03:44.45 so it was just a different form of the same word... 00:03:44.49\00:03:47.56 it has the same meaning. 00:03:47.59\00:03:48.92 Why they did that, I'm not sure 00:03:48.96\00:03:50.76 but it's just the plural: MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN 00:03:50.79\00:03:53.29 MENE... God has numbered your kingdom, 00:03:53.33\00:03:56.00 TEKEL... You are weighed in the balances, and found wanting; 00:03:56.03\00:03:58.43 PERES or UPHARSIN: your kingdom is divided 00:03:58.47\00:04:01.80 and it's given to the Medes and the Persians 00:04:01.84\00:04:03.41 and it might be the plural 00:04:03.44\00:04:04.97 because of the Medes and Persians... I'm not sure... 00:04:05.01\00:04:06.84 but that was... that was the point there... 00:04:06.88\00:04:08.48 so, this was the writing that he couldn't understand... 00:04:08.51\00:04:12.11 he didn't get it 00:04:12.15\00:04:13.48 and Daniel, of course, comes in totally dedicated to God 00:04:13.52\00:04:17.99 and we know this because again, he's speaking the truth 00:04:18.02\00:04:22.32 and he doesn't hold back the gospel when he speaks the truth, 00:04:22.39\00:04:26.76 he brings the gospel out... 00:04:26.80\00:04:28.13 but he also is very focused on what God has said 00:04:28.16\00:04:32.30 and at the same time, he says to Belshazzar, 00:04:32.33\00:04:36.44 "I don't need your gifts... I don't need your rewards... 00:04:36.50\00:04:38.91 none of that matters to me... " why? 00:04:38.94\00:04:40.81 "Because God's got me... " 00:04:40.84\00:04:42.18 and it's when we have our focus on God 00:04:42.21\00:04:44.28 and we know that God's got us 00:04:44.31\00:04:45.65 that we can say "No" to the things of this world 00:04:45.68\00:04:47.55 and we see this happening over and over again 00:04:47.58\00:04:49.65 and so, in that context, Nebuchadnezzar responds... 00:04:49.68\00:04:54.46 excuse me... Belshazzar responds 00:04:54.52\00:04:56.06 and he clothes Daniel with scarlet... 00:04:56.12\00:04:58.46 puts a chain of gold about his neck and makes a proclamation 00:04:58.49\00:05:00.76 concerning that he should be a third ruler 00:05:00.80\00:05:02.33 so, to me, that verse basically says, he's unchanged... 00:05:02.36\00:05:06.07 he's unrepentant... he's unchanged... 00:05:06.13\00:05:08.64 his whole focus is still the things of this world 00:05:08.67\00:05:10.61 and it's the same principle that we see in Revelation 00:05:10.64\00:05:13.58 when it says that... you know... 00:05:13.61\00:05:14.98 that God gives them time to repent... they don't repent... 00:05:15.01\00:05:17.01 when God sends judgments and they didn't repent... 00:05:17.05\00:05:19.18 when God sends the plagues and they don't repent. 00:05:19.21\00:05:21.88 It's just the realization that they're settled. 00:05:21.92\00:05:24.49 When God brings a judgment at... at... at... 00:05:24.52\00:05:27.06 a proclamation of judgment, 00:05:27.09\00:05:29.02 God usually knows that "Hey, this is it... " right? 00:05:29.09\00:05:33.03 and... and sure enough in this situation, this was it 00:05:33.06\00:05:37.00 and so, we can trust God with judgment. 00:05:37.03\00:05:39.33 Now, we can't always do that, right? 00:05:39.37\00:05:40.90 Yvonne: Right. 00:05:40.94\00:05:42.37 James: Our judgment is finite and we don't read the heart 00:05:42.40\00:05:44.81 and we can't judge 00:05:44.84\00:05:46.17 but God is sure when He judges, He knows the heart. 00:05:46.21\00:05:50.05 Ivor: There's a thought I want to introduce here 00:05:50.08\00:05:53.95 and I want to ask one of you 00:05:54.02\00:05:55.62 if you would go to Isaiah chapter 44 00:05:55.65\00:05:57.69 because what I want to talk about is how Babylon fell... 00:05:57.72\00:06:00.42 how Babylon fell... 00:06:00.46\00:06:02.42 so, James was mentioning earlier in our last program, 00:06:02.46\00:06:05.79 that Babylon sat along the River Euphrates... 00:06:05.83\00:06:08.86 it was surrounded by the Euphrates... 00:06:08.90\00:06:11.87 it was a well-fortified city 00:06:11.90\00:06:14.70 and while Belshazzar is within his kingdom 00:06:14.74\00:06:19.97 and feasting and all these things, 00:06:20.01\00:06:23.38 outside of the city, right, outside of the city walls 00:06:23.41\00:06:26.82 is the army of the Medes and the Persians. 00:06:26.88\00:06:29.52 It's being led by... obviously led by Cyrus... 00:06:29.55\00:06:33.36 and Isaiah 44 prophesied of the fall of Babylon 00:06:33.39\00:06:37.16 and we're going to read about it here 00:06:37.19\00:06:39.26 in Isaiah 44 verses 26 to 27... of 26 to 28 rather 00:06:39.29\00:06:45.37 and then we're going to go to chapter 45 00:06:45.43\00:06:47.47 and read verses 1 and 2... 00:06:47.50\00:06:48.84 so, it's five verses altogether, 00:06:48.87\00:06:50.41 Yvonne, would you read those verses for us? 00:06:50.44\00:06:51.94 Yvonne: Yeah, sure... 00:06:51.97\00:06:53.54 Yvonne: So, 44:26. Ivor: Right. 00:06:53.58\00:06:56.11 Yvonne: "Who confirms the word of His servant, 00:06:56.14\00:06:59.28 and performs the counsel of His messengers; 00:06:59.31\00:07:02.35 who says to Jerusalem, 'You shall be inhabited,' 00:07:02.38\00:07:05.59 to the cities of Judah, 00:07:05.62\00:07:06.96 'You shall be built,' 00:07:06.99\00:07:08.32 and I will raise up her waste places; 00:07:08.36\00:07:10.56 Who says to the deep, 'Be dry!' 00:07:10.59\00:07:12.66 and I will dry up your rivers'; 00:07:12.69\00:07:14.66 Who says of Cyrus, 'He is My shepherd, 00:07:14.70\00:07:17.33 and he shall perform all My pleasure, 00:07:17.37\00:07:19.90 saying to Jerusalem, 'You shall be built,' 00:07:19.93\00:07:22.60 and to the temple, 00:07:22.64\00:07:23.97 'Your foundation shall be laid. '" 00:07:24.01\00:07:25.51 Ivor: Okay, you can go ahead and read verse 1 and 2 00:07:25.54\00:07:27.08 of chapter 45. 00:07:27.11\00:07:28.88 Yvonne: "Thus says the Lord to his anointed, 00:07:28.91\00:07:30.61 to Cyrus, whose right hand I have held... 00:07:30.65\00:07:32.98 to subdue nations before him and loose the armor of kings, 00:07:33.01\00:07:36.75 to open before him the double doors, 00:07:36.79\00:07:38.95 so that the gates will not be shut: 00:07:38.99\00:07:41.09 'I will go before you and make the crooked places straight; 00:07:41.12\00:07:44.79 I will break in pieces the gates of bronze 00:07:44.83\00:07:47.76 and cut the bars of iron. '" 00:07:47.80\00:07:49.33 Ivor: So, what's interesting about the text that you read... 00:07:49.36\00:07:53.90 verse 1 of chapter 45 where it says, 00:07:53.94\00:07:56.20 "He will loose... " or He will... 00:07:56.27\00:07:58.51 James: Loose the loins of kings. 00:07:58.54\00:08:00.78 Ivor: Well, the KJV says, 00:08:00.81\00:08:02.14 "He will loose the loins of kings... " 00:08:02.18\00:08:03.51 but your version read, "He will loose his armor" or... 00:08:03.55\00:08:06.55 Yvonne: Yes and "Loose the armor of kings... " 00:08:06.61\00:08:08.82 Ivor: "Loose the armor of kings... " 00:08:08.85\00:08:10.19 so, when... when I see here, 00:08:10.22\00:08:11.65 "Loose the loins of kings" 00:08:11.69\00:08:13.15 that reminds us of exactly what happens to Belshazzar 00:08:13.19\00:08:16.46 when he saw the writing on the wall. 00:08:16.52\00:08:18.46 So, we see here that there's a connection 00:08:18.49\00:08:20.83 between Isaiah 45 and what's happening in Daniel chapter 5, 00:08:20.86\00:08:25.97 but that's not the only connection, 00:08:26.00\00:08:27.94 because here's what happens in Daniel chapter 5, 00:08:27.97\00:08:31.07 while Belshazzar is in his kingdom... 00:08:31.11\00:08:35.24 feeling secure in his domain... 00:08:35.28\00:08:37.08 his place is impenetrable... 00:08:37.11\00:08:38.81 you know, "You can't get in here... 00:08:38.88\00:08:40.75 we're surrounded by this River Euphrates... " 00:08:40.82\00:08:43.99 Cyrus is outside the city walls 00:08:44.05\00:08:46.92 and the story goes that 00:08:46.96\00:08:50.36 Cyrus' horse actually drowned in the River Euphrates. 00:08:50.39\00:08:55.33 James: Really? I didn't know. 00:08:55.36\00:08:57.07 Ivor: And he got so angry with the river, 00:08:57.10\00:08:59.50 that he said, "Dry this river up. " 00:08:59.53\00:09:01.30 James: Wow! Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:09:01.37\00:09:02.70 Ivor: So, he begins to drops these... 00:09:02.74\00:09:04.21 has his army drop these rocks into the River Euphrates 00:09:04.24\00:09:07.54 and he creates this dam... diverts the River Euphrates 00:09:07.58\00:09:10.81 and that's how they discovered 00:09:10.85\00:09:12.18 that the gates had been unlocked. 00:09:12.21\00:09:14.42 James: Really? Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:09:14.45\00:09:16.28 Ivor: And so, Cyrus and his army... 00:09:16.32\00:09:19.22 they basically descend into this riverbed 00:09:19.25\00:09:22.06 and that's how they got into the gates of Babylon. 00:09:22.09\00:09:27.03 They descended into the riverbed 00:09:27.06\00:09:29.16 and then opened the gates that were unlocked 00:09:29.20\00:09:33.23 and that's how they conquered Babylon. 00:09:33.27\00:09:35.04 Yvonne: Wow. James: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:09:35.07\00:09:36.81 Ivor: And so, when the Bible says here... 00:09:36.84\00:09:38.34 "He will dry up the deep" verse 27 of Isaiah 44, 00:09:38.37\00:09:41.94 "That saith to the deep, "Be dry... " 00:09:41.98\00:09:43.65 and I will dry up thy rivers... " 00:09:43.68\00:09:45.31 that's speaking of Cyrus... 00:09:45.35\00:09:46.68 Yvonne: Oh, look at that. James: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:09:46.72\00:09:48.05 Ivor: And that's exactly what He did 00:09:48.08\00:09:49.42 and notice how Cyrus is called "my shepherd" 00:09:49.45\00:09:51.35 he's called... 00:09:51.39\00:09:52.72 he is the one that's going to say to Jerusalem, 00:09:52.75\00:09:55.02 "Be thou re-built... and to the temple... " 00:09:55.06\00:09:57.29 so, what did he do? 00:09:57.33\00:09:58.66 He is actually the one that sets the captives free. 00:09:58.69\00:10:01.93 James: Wow. Yvonne: Wow... 00:10:01.96\00:10:03.33 Ivor: This is powerful because in Isaiah 61 00:10:03.37\00:10:07.84 and I have it up on my screen 00:10:07.87\00:10:09.64 so I'm just going to go ahead and read this, 00:10:09.67\00:10:11.01 Isaiah 61 verse 1... this verse is speaking of Cyrus 00:10:11.04\00:10:14.44 in a very literal sense and here's what it says, 00:10:14.48\00:10:18.08 "The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; 00:10:18.11\00:10:20.48 because the LORD hath anointed me... " 00:10:20.52\00:10:22.78 that's what Cyrus is... "the anointed one" right? 00:10:22.82\00:10:25.32 "The LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings 00:10:25.35\00:10:27.82 unto the meek; 00:10:27.86\00:10:29.29 He hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, 00:10:29.32\00:10:31.29 to proclaim liberty to the captives... " 00:10:31.33\00:10:34.20 Yvonne: Oooooh... 00:10:34.23\00:10:35.56 Ivor: What captives? Those that were in Babylon... 00:10:35.60\00:10:38.60 Jerusalem, right? the Jews... 00:10:38.63\00:10:40.57 "And the opening of the prison to them that are bound; 00:10:40.60\00:10:44.24 to proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, 00:10:44.27\00:10:46.78 and the day of vengeance of our God; 00:10:46.81\00:10:48.21 to comfort all that mourn; 00:10:48.24\00:10:49.58 to appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, 00:10:49.61\00:10:51.31 to give unto them beauty for ashes, 00:10:51.35\00:10:53.01 the oil of joy for mourning, 00:10:53.05\00:10:55.32 the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; 00:10:55.35\00:10:57.69 that they might be called trees of righteousness, 00:10:57.72\00:11:00.42 the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified. 00:11:00.46\00:11:03.12 And they shall build the old waste places, 00:11:03.16\00:11:06.06 they shall raise up the former desolations... 00:11:06.09\00:11:08.96 they shall repair the waste cities, 00:11:09.00\00:11:10.87 the desolations of many generations. " 00:11:10.90\00:11:12.73 So, Cyrus is the one 00:11:12.77\00:11:14.50 that through this opening of the gates... 00:11:14.54\00:11:19.64 drying up the deep... entering into Babylon... 00:11:19.67\00:11:22.04 set the captives free to go to Jerusalem. 00:11:22.08\00:11:25.65 So, when you read in other places in the Scripture 00:11:25.68\00:11:28.88 and I believe it's in 2nd Kings or Chronicles... 00:11:28.92\00:11:32.12 where you see this decree of Cyrus 00:11:32.15\00:11:34.46 where he says, "God has called me to... 00:11:34.52\00:11:37.53 to build Him a house in Jerusalem... 00:11:37.56\00:11:40.53 who is there among you of His people that will go up... 00:11:40.56\00:11:43.00 let him go up... 00:11:43.03\00:11:45.03 let him go up, 00:11:45.07\00:11:46.97 let him go up... " all right... 00:11:47.04\00:11:48.84 so, you're saying, "All right Pastor, 00:11:48.90\00:11:50.51 that... that's good, this is history here... " 00:11:50.54\00:11:52.17 but I want you to check this out because 00:11:52.21\00:11:54.04 remember what's happening 00:11:54.08\00:11:55.41 when Cyrus is outside the city gates 00:11:55.44\00:11:59.88 and this handwriting appears on the wall... 00:11:59.91\00:12:02.78 "Your kingdom is numbered and finished. " 00:12:02.82\00:12:05.62 Babylon falls... 00:12:05.65\00:12:07.32 and that night the king of Babylon... 00:12:07.36\00:12:08.79 his loins are loose... his knees smote together because of fear. 00:12:08.82\00:12:12.13 Cyrus... as we have previously talked about is a type of Christ 00:12:12.19\00:12:17.63 in fact, in the book of Luke 4, when Jesus begins His ministry, 00:12:17.67\00:12:23.10 he opens up and quotes Isaiah 61. 00:12:23.14\00:12:26.34 Yvonne: Yeah. 00:12:26.37\00:12:27.78 Ivor: It's as if He's saying, "Cyrus is here... " 00:12:27.81\00:12:29.74 that's what He's saying. 00:12:29.78\00:12:31.98 James: Yup, "the anointed is here. " 00:12:32.01\00:12:33.35 Ivor: "The anointed is here... " the anointed One... 00:12:33.38\00:12:34.72 Now, this is the powerful thing because 00:12:34.75\00:12:37.55 what was in the... Belshazzar doing that night? 00:12:37.59\00:12:39.69 He was taking the holy things of God and mocking them. 00:12:39.72\00:12:42.36 Yvonne: Right. 00:12:42.42\00:12:43.76 Ivor: So, who's the real king of Babylon? 00:12:43.79\00:12:45.13 James: Hmmm... 00:12:45.16\00:12:46.49 Ivor: The true king of Babylon is Satan himself 00:12:46.53\00:12:49.36 and we've seen that in Nebuchadnezzar... 00:12:49.40\00:12:52.17 James: King of Pride... 00:12:52.20\00:12:53.70 Ivor: The King of Pride... 00:12:53.74\00:12:55.14 so, was there a time that Satan... 00:12:55.20\00:12:56.84 because what Belshazzar was doing was, 00:12:56.87\00:12:58.51 he was mocking the holy things of God before his people... 00:12:58.54\00:13:01.58 parading the holy things of God before his own, 00:13:01.61\00:13:04.68 was there a time that Satan thought he had 00:13:04.71\00:13:07.72 the most holiest thing of God in his possession, 00:13:07.75\00:13:11.35 parading and mocking that thing? 00:13:11.39\00:13:13.62 Yes, that was Jesus Christ. 00:13:13.66\00:13:15.26 So, he has Jesus... getting ready to take Him to the cross 00:13:15.29\00:13:19.53 and this is just so amazing because here's what's happening, 00:13:19.56\00:13:23.80 the man that Satan is leading 00:13:23.83\00:13:26.97 outside the city gates... 00:13:27.00\00:13:30.11 All: Laughing... as Ivor has an important point to make. 00:13:30.14\00:13:33.04 James: Take your time... take your time. 00:13:33.07\00:13:35.28 Ivor: The man he is leading outside the city gates... 00:13:35.31\00:13:39.75 little does he realize that He is the Cyrus of God. 00:13:39.78\00:13:44.19 Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:13:44.22\00:13:45.55 Ivor: And so, imagine this now, Jesus is outside the city gates, 00:13:45.59\00:13:48.89 remember what Cyrus did, right? 00:13:48.92\00:13:50.46 All: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:13:50.49\00:13:51.83 Ivor: He dried up the deep and descended... 00:13:51.86\00:13:54.20 He descended into the earth 00:13:54.26\00:13:59.07 to open the gates 00:13:59.10\00:14:04.31 to set the captives free. 00:14:04.34\00:14:09.94 Yvonne: Yes. 00:14:09.98\00:14:11.31 James: He led a multitude of captives captive... 00:14:11.35\00:14:13.48 remember that? The multitude that comes forth. 00:14:13.52\00:14:15.72 Ivor: This is exactly what Jesus does in His death and burial... 00:14:15.75\00:14:20.46 He has entered into the gates of what Satan thought 00:14:20.49\00:14:24.09 was an impenetrable dominion... 00:14:24.13\00:14:26.29 "Yeah, my dominion is secure... it's safe... it's locked up... " 00:14:26.33\00:14:30.20 Jesus enters into that place through His death... 00:14:30.23\00:14:33.17 dries up the deep and remember this... 00:14:33.20\00:14:36.44 what was written on the wall of Babylon? 00:14:36.50\00:14:39.91 "Your kingdom is numbered and found wanting 00:14:39.94\00:14:43.31 and your kingdom is finished... 00:14:43.35\00:14:45.98 your kingdom is finished... " 00:14:46.01\00:14:48.62 James: "It is finished. " 00:14:48.65\00:14:50.22 Ivor: "It is finished. " 00:14:50.25\00:14:52.59 Yvonne: Oooooh... wow! 00:14:52.62\00:14:53.96 Ivor: When Jesus cries out, "It is finished... " 00:14:53.99\00:14:56.32 the loins of Satan were loosed. 00:14:56.36\00:15:00.83 Yvonne: Ho... ho... wow! 00:15:00.90\00:15:03.33 Ivor: His knees... because he knew it was his death knell... 00:15:03.37\00:15:06.70 he knew this was it... 00:15:06.74\00:15:08.40 like the... the... 00:15:08.44\00:15:10.01 the seed of the woman had bruised the head of the serpent 00:15:10.04\00:15:14.58 so, what do we have here? 00:15:14.61\00:15:16.41 I mean, think about it... 00:15:16.44\00:15:18.15 Christ's death sets the captives free... 00:15:18.18\00:15:21.25 so, who wants to go up to Jerusalem? 00:15:21.28\00:15:24.29 James: Hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:15:24.32\00:15:26.19 Ivor: Who wants to go up to the heavenly Jerusalem? 00:15:26.22\00:15:29.32 Whoever will... whoever will... whoever will... let him go up... 00:15:29.36\00:15:33.26 let him go up... this is amazing... 00:15:33.29\00:15:35.36 so watch what we haven't had happening here, 00:15:35.40\00:15:37.30 we're going to do the re-cap... 00:15:37.33\00:15:38.83 in Daniel 1... appetite... 00:15:38.87\00:15:41.20 the beginning of His ministry... 00:15:41.24\00:15:44.44 Daniel 2... stone to the foot... 00:15:44.47\00:15:47.64 His second temptation... 00:15:47.68\00:15:49.11 Daniel 3... bow down and worship... 00:15:49.14\00:15:51.41 that's the beginning of His ministry... 00:15:51.45\00:15:53.72 Daniel 4... the tree... 00:15:53.75\00:15:55.82 this is the tree that's really going to be... 00:15:55.88\00:15:58.52 that's going to be the one that establishes an eternal kingdom, 00:15:58.55\00:16:01.96 right? the cross... that's His death... 00:16:01.99\00:16:03.76 Daniel chapter 5... His burial... 00:16:03.83\00:16:06.59 James: Hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:16:06.63\00:16:09.36 James: He sets the captives free... 00:16:09.40\00:16:10.73 Ivor: He... through His death and burial... 00:16:10.77\00:16:12.60 He sets the captives free... 00:16:12.63\00:16:14.34 and I'm trying not to do this but I think I'm going to 00:16:14.37\00:16:18.91 because in Daniel chapter 6... 00:16:18.94\00:16:21.24 pause... all laughing 00:16:21.28\00:16:23.41 because they know that Ivor has an important point... 00:16:23.45\00:16:27.22 Ivor: In Daniel chapter 6, you have Daniel in a Lions' Den 00:16:27.25\00:16:32.12 with a stone over the mouth of the Lions' Den 00:16:32.15\00:16:36.42 and a seal over that stone saying, 00:16:36.46\00:16:40.76 "Make sure he does not come out of the... " 00:16:40.80\00:16:44.00 Jason: Wow! Yvonne: Wow! Yes. 00:16:44.03\00:16:45.97 Ivor: Who would have thought that Daniel chapter 1 00:16:46.00\00:16:48.97 all the way to Daniel chapter 6 is a parallel and a picture 00:16:49.00\00:16:53.78 of the beginning of Christ's ministry 00:16:53.81\00:16:56.14 and his death, burial and resurrection... 00:16:56.18\00:16:58.48 like it's just mind-blowing. 00:16:58.51\00:17:00.38 Yvonne: Wow! 00:17:00.42\00:17:01.75 Ivor: These are the different patterns 00:17:01.78\00:17:03.12 that we begin to see unfold as we're looking at... 00:17:03.15\00:17:05.15 whoa! God is showing us Daniel living the life of Christ 00:17:05.19\00:17:08.36 through these stories of the Bible. 00:17:08.39\00:17:11.66 He's showing us what is going to pertain... 00:17:11.69\00:17:15.26 what's going to fall on us at the end of time... 00:17:15.33\00:17:18.43 he's showing us how these stories end up applying 00:17:18.47\00:17:21.57 in very practical ways 00:17:21.60\00:17:23.37 but also seeing Jesus in the midst of the story. 00:17:23.41\00:17:27.11 Yvonne: Yes... yes... 00:17:27.14\00:17:28.48 Ivor: He sets the captives free... 00:17:28.51\00:17:30.68 He sets the captives free... 00:17:30.71\00:17:32.48 Yvonne: Wow! oooh! 00:17:32.51\00:17:34.52 James: It's so beautiful because when you think about Christ 00:17:34.55\00:17:37.22 after He was resurrected... 00:17:37.25\00:17:38.65 and by the way, I want us to refer to a verse here 00:17:38.69\00:17:40.79 we can look at it here in a second... 00:17:40.86\00:17:42.39 Matthew 27 verses... let's just say, verses 50 to 53 00:17:42.42\00:17:48.86 when we look at those verses, 00:17:48.93\00:17:51.20 it's interesting because when you think about 00:17:51.23\00:17:53.30 the story of Christ, 00:17:53.34\00:17:54.67 you know, when He goes on that walk 00:17:54.70\00:17:56.27 with His two disciples to Emmaus... 00:17:56.30\00:17:58.27 and they are all pouty and down and discouraged 00:17:58.31\00:18:02.88 and He says, "What's up guys... " 00:18:02.91\00:18:05.38 "Oh, you haven't heard?" 00:18:05.41\00:18:07.12 "Well, there was a guy that was crucified 00:18:07.18\00:18:11.62 and we all thought... we were sure He was the Messiah 00:18:11.65\00:18:14.22 but, you know, he was killed today and... " 00:18:14.26\00:18:17.06 "Well, what? are you sure that He's like gone... like...?" 00:18:17.09\00:18:22.93 and then He goes back... what does it say? 00:18:22.96\00:18:25.07 to Moses and the prophets 00:18:25.13\00:18:27.24 and shows Himself through all of these prophecies... 00:18:27.27\00:18:31.41 and when you get to Daniel, you're like, 00:18:31.44\00:18:34.68 "Eh... " 00:18:34.71\00:18:36.28 but if Daniel is continuing in the book of Revelation... 00:18:36.31\00:18:40.85 I don't know if you remember this 00:18:40.88\00:18:42.22 when we went through Revelation... 00:18:42.25\00:18:43.59 we went through the trumpet... the churches... 00:18:43.62\00:18:45.19 the seals and the trumpets... 00:18:45.22\00:18:46.69 and every single one of... 00:18:46.72\00:18:48.09 and the seven last vials or the seven plagues... 00:18:48.12\00:18:51.23 every single one of those began with a picture of Christ. 00:18:51.26\00:18:54.30 I don't know if you remember that... 00:18:54.33\00:18:55.66 so, the first one of course... the seven churches... 00:18:55.70\00:18:58.03 there's Christ among the churches... 00:18:58.07\00:18:59.40 remember that? Ivor: Yeah. 00:18:59.43\00:19:00.77 James: And we talked about how that was a representation 00:19:00.80\00:19:02.90 of Christ being incarnate among us... being with us... 00:19:02.97\00:19:05.21 the second one was a picture 00:19:05.24\00:19:07.01 of the Lamb slain in the midst of the throne... 00:19:07.04\00:19:09.11 you remember that? Revelation 5... 00:19:09.14\00:19:10.48 and we said, "That's the cross right there" 00:19:10.51\00:19:12.61 right? That's the cross. 00:19:12.65\00:19:13.98 The third one was a picture of this angel with incense 00:19:14.02\00:19:17.32 interceding with the prayers of the saints... 00:19:17.35\00:19:20.22 we said, "That's a representation right there 00:19:20.26\00:19:22.99 of His ministry in heaven. " 00:19:23.02\00:19:24.36 And the fourth one was the woman who was pregnant 00:19:24.39\00:19:28.00 and gave birth to the child 00:19:28.03\00:19:29.66 and the child was taken up to God and to His throne 00:19:29.70\00:19:32.13 and that was again... again a summary of His birth 00:19:32.17\00:19:34.00 and His resurrection. 00:19:34.04\00:19:35.64 It was all about Jesus so, each one of those epics... 00:19:35.67\00:19:38.21 because there were only four cycles... 00:19:38.24\00:19:39.67 all started with Christ... 00:19:39.71\00:19:41.04 Daniel is doing the same thing here, 00:19:41.08\00:19:42.41 I mean, what Ivor's brought out here is the same point 00:19:42.44\00:19:46.35 and the point is this, prophecy is about Jesus... 00:19:46.41\00:19:49.58 He's the ultimate reason why we have prophecy 00:19:49.62\00:19:52.75 and so His life is foreshadowed in all these different events 00:19:52.79\00:19:55.99 that are taking place... 00:19:56.02\00:19:57.36 God is pouring into the stories of Daniel... 00:19:57.39\00:20:00.66 the experiences of Daniel and others... 00:20:00.70\00:20:03.47 He's pouring into that the plan of salvation 00:20:03.50\00:20:05.50 so that we can see the plan of salvation. 00:20:05.53\00:20:07.50 Ivor: Yeah, there's another picture that we... 00:20:07.54\00:20:09.64 because we've been looking at several... 00:20:09.67\00:20:11.47 all of these themes that are just overflowing 00:20:11.51\00:20:14.44 and you remember we were doing in the first couple of messages 00:20:14.48\00:20:19.15 or programs, we talked about the end-time event for us... 00:20:19.21\00:20:23.85 at the end of time, there'll be a group of people 00:20:23.89\00:20:25.55 we kept kind of... there will be a group of people 00:20:25.59\00:20:27.06 who will avoid the wine of Babylon 00:20:27.09\00:20:28.42 and that was one pattern 00:20:28.46\00:20:29.79 and now we're looking at a pattern of Christ's life 00:20:29.82\00:20:31.83 unfolding through the book of Daniel, 00:20:31.86\00:20:33.29 and we're looking at another pattern of the king of the north 00:20:33.33\00:20:36.00 at the time of the end... 00:20:36.06\00:20:37.40 all these patterns are just overflowing 00:20:37.43\00:20:40.44 and this is what I call "Divine Design" 00:20:40.47\00:20:43.20 like, you can't make this stuff up... 00:20:43.24\00:20:45.91 it's too much order there 00:20:45.97\00:20:48.11 and so, we're going to re-cap another pattern again 00:20:48.14\00:20:50.45 and this is the king of the north... 00:20:50.48\00:20:51.81 king of the south... 00:20:51.85\00:20:53.18 Daniel 11:40 to 45 00:20:53.21\00:20:54.55 and now we're going to see a really complete picture 00:20:54.58\00:20:56.85 because here's what happens, 00:20:56.89\00:20:58.22 Daniel 1... king of the south... 00:20:58.25\00:20:59.75 I'm going to see if you guys can help me... 00:20:59.79\00:21:01.32 king of the south pushes against... 00:21:01.36\00:21:03.12 All: king of the north... 00:21:03.16\00:21:04.49 Ivor: The king of the north returns that... that fight 00:21:04.53\00:21:07.50 and defeats king of the south... 00:21:07.53\00:21:09.30 he then turns his attention to.. to Jerusalem... 00:21:09.33\00:21:12.50 he seeks to enforce the wine of Babylon 00:21:12.53\00:21:16.14 and... and... that's Daniel chapter 1... 00:21:16.17\00:21:19.71 Daniel chapter 2... he hears tidings from where? 00:21:19.74\00:21:26.72 The north and the east that trouble him 00:21:26.78\00:21:29.28 and so, with fury... 00:21:29.32\00:21:31.39 he goes forth with fury to do what? 00:21:31.42\00:21:34.89 To destroy many... that's Daniel chapter 3. 00:21:34.92\00:21:37.49 Daniel 4... he's going to set up his... 00:21:37.53\00:21:39.59 his palaces... 00:21:39.63\00:21:41.46 he's going to be a glory in his palaces 00:21:41.50\00:21:43.67 so, that's Daniel 1, 2, 3, 4 and then, Daniel 5, 00:21:43.70\00:21:47.04 Michael... no, no, no, I'm sorry... Cyrus... 00:21:47.07\00:21:51.44 All: Hmmm... 00:21:51.47\00:21:52.81 Ivor: Now, recall what I just did... 00:21:52.84\00:21:55.38 right... Michael... no, no, no, no, Cyrus... 00:21:55.41\00:21:59.41 Cyrus... after he's set up his palaces... 00:21:59.45\00:22:03.79 and remember what we read in Daniel chapter 11 00:22:03.82\00:22:06.65 verses 40 to 45... 00:22:06.69\00:22:08.02 all the things that we've just seen in verses... 00:22:08.06\00:22:09.76 in chapters 1 through 4... 00:22:09.79\00:22:11.26 we see taking place on a global scale in verses 40 to 45 00:22:11.29\00:22:17.77 and the last verse... I know we're not going there 00:22:17.80\00:22:20.14 I know I'm just kind of throwing this out, 00:22:20.17\00:22:21.74 but the last verse in 45... he sets up his palaces... 00:22:21.77\00:22:24.74 the thing that we left off in chapter 4... 00:22:24.77\00:22:27.18 he sets up his palaces. 00:22:27.21\00:22:28.71 In chapter 5... Babylon falls 00:22:28.74\00:22:31.81 and Cyrus is the one that overthrows them. 00:22:31.85\00:22:34.88 The anointed stands up and what does the anointed do? 00:22:34.92\00:22:38.59 He opens the gates of the prison houses... 00:22:38.62\00:22:41.19 them that sleep in the dust of the earth. 00:22:41.22\00:22:45.49 Yvonne: Wow! 00:22:45.53\00:22:46.86 Ivor: The heavenly Cyrus... when He comes... 00:22:46.90\00:22:48.23 that's Daniel 12:1 and 2... 00:22:48.26\00:22:50.67 the heavenly Cyrus when He comes... 00:22:50.70\00:22:52.80 he's going to open the gates of Babylon... 00:22:52.83\00:22:55.70 All: Hmmm... 00:22:55.74\00:22:57.14 Ivor: The gates of the grave to set the captives free 00:22:57.17\00:23:01.41 so that they can go where? 00:23:01.44\00:23:02.81 Ivor: Jerusalem. James: Up... up... 00:23:02.84\00:23:05.35 Ivor: up... and remember this... 00:23:05.38\00:23:07.15 Daniel... I'm sorry... Cyrus... in order to do this 00:23:07.18\00:23:12.85 he had to dry up the River Euphrates... 00:23:12.89\00:23:14.52 James: Hmmm... 00:23:14.56\00:23:15.89 Ivor: That brings us right back to Revelation chapter 18... 00:23:15.92\00:23:18.29 I'm sorry... chapter 16 where the River Euphrates... 00:23:18.36\00:23:20.90 James: We should read that. Ivor: Let's go to it. 00:23:20.93\00:23:23.43 James: That's really interesting because of the way that it's... 00:23:23.47\00:23:25.90 the way that it's... I'm going to leave my... 00:23:25.93\00:23:27.67 my... my pen in... in Matthew 27 00:23:27.70\00:23:31.47 so I don't forget that verse if we have time to go back to 00:23:31.54\00:23:33.64 but this one's even more important, I think. 00:23:33.68\00:23:36.81 Yvonne: What verse? Ivor: 16... verses 12 to 16, 00:23:36.85\00:23:39.95 12 to 15... 00:23:39.98\00:23:41.38 Jason: Okay... 12 to 15... 00:23:41.42\00:23:45.55 "Then the sixth angel poured out his bowl 00:23:45.62\00:23:48.32 on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, 00:23:48.36\00:23:51.66 so that the way of the kings from the east 00:23:51.69\00:23:53.53 might be prepared. " 00:23:53.56\00:23:54.90 James: I think we should stop right there... 00:23:54.93\00:23:56.26 I think we should stop right there 00:23:56.30\00:23:57.63 because this is the... 00:23:57.67\00:23:59.00 this is the plague and this is the focus right here 00:23:59.03\00:24:00.77 so, of course the book of Revelation 00:24:00.80\00:24:02.97 is borrowing from the Old Testament... 00:24:03.00\00:24:05.11 so, we have to go to the Old Testament story 00:24:05.14\00:24:06.68 of the drying of the River Euphrates which is Cyrus. 00:24:06.71\00:24:08.24 Ivor: Yeah. 00:24:08.31\00:24:09.64 James: In here they're called the kings of the east... 00:24:09.68\00:24:11.35 it's plural... Ivor: Yeah. 00:24:11.41\00:24:12.75 James: Now, it's interesting I think 00:24:12.78\00:24:14.42 that Cyrus who later became 00:24:14.45\00:24:16.99 the king of Medo-Persia, 00:24:17.02\00:24:19.45 was not the first king of Medo-Persia... Darius was. 00:24:19.49\00:24:22.46 Ivor: Right... right... 00:24:22.49\00:24:23.83 James: But they were the Medes and the Persians 00:24:23.86\00:24:25.19 Ivor: It says "Darius" in Daniel chapter 5... 00:24:25.23\00:24:26.56 James: Right... right... 00:24:26.59\00:24:27.93 the Medes and Persians though work together, 00:24:27.96\00:24:29.30 so and it was plural 00:24:29.33\00:24:30.67 so, the plurality of the Medes and Persians 00:24:30.70\00:24:32.03 also parallels the plurality because here we've got plural 00:24:32.07\00:24:34.54 so, who are the kings of the east in this verse? 00:24:34.57\00:24:36.74 Well, I want you to notice that in... is it Matthew 24 00:24:36.77\00:24:41.54 it talks about the second coming of Jesus 00:24:41.58\00:24:44.45 and it says 00:24:44.48\00:24:48.02 in verse 27 00:24:48.05\00:24:51.52 of Matthew 24, 00:24:51.55\00:24:54.92 "For as lightning comes out of the east, 00:24:54.96\00:24:59.49 and shines even unto the west; 00:24:59.53\00:25:02.13 so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. " 00:25:02.16\00:25:04.23 Okay, then go forward just a little bit in Matthew 00:25:04.27\00:25:06.30 and look at verse... chapter 26 00:25:06.33\00:25:10.21 and look at verse 64... 00:25:10.24\00:25:13.48 pause... 00:25:13.51\00:25:16.38 Jason: "Jesus said to him, 'It is as you said. 00:25:16.41\00:25:19.18 Nevertheless, I say to you, 00:25:19.21\00:25:20.58 hereafter you will see the Son of man 00:25:20.62\00:25:22.78 sitting at the right hand of the Power, 00:25:22.82\00:25:25.19 and coming on the clouds of heaven. '" 00:25:25.22\00:25:27.16 James: Okay, so who's coming with Jesus? 00:25:27.19\00:25:29.02 Who is the Power that He sits on the right hand of? 00:25:29.06\00:25:33.70 Christ sits on the right hand of who? 00:25:33.73\00:25:35.23 Yvonne: Father. 00:25:35.26\00:25:36.60 James: Father... so, these are the kings of the east, 00:25:36.63\00:25:38.30 they're coming from the east... 00:25:38.33\00:25:39.67 Matthew 24 says, 00:25:39.70\00:25:41.04 "Lightning shining from the east to the west... " 00:25:41.07\00:25:42.50 lightning... brightness... 00:25:42.54\00:25:43.94 and He's sitting at the right hand of Power... 00:25:43.97\00:25:45.31 so, these are the kings of the east... 00:25:45.34\00:25:46.68 so, the River Euphrates is dried up so that the anointed One 00:25:46.71\00:25:49.24 who represents Darius... the Power in that time... 00:25:49.31\00:25:53.85 because he was the General at that time... 00:25:53.88\00:25:55.22 their... their way will be prepared 00:25:55.25\00:25:56.82 and this is the same terminology that's being brought forth here. 00:25:56.85\00:26:00.09 Ivor: And the powerful thing is remember 00:26:00.16\00:26:01.49 the Medes and the Persians were from not just... 00:26:01.52\00:26:03.19 one was from the east... one was from the north... 00:26:03.22\00:26:05.39 and so, here you have... 00:26:05.46\00:26:07.00 Cyrus is called a king from the east 00:26:07.03\00:26:09.80 but he's also considered the king of the north. 00:26:09.83\00:26:11.70 Remember, God said, "I'm going to bring the northern 00:26:11.73\00:26:13.90 families upon Babylon 00:26:13.94\00:26:15.27 to overthrow them and destroy them... " 00:26:15.30\00:26:16.71 so, the true king of the north is standing up 00:26:16.74\00:26:21.81 to battle against the counterfeit king of the north. 00:26:21.84\00:26:25.61 Yvonne: Ooooh... ah ha... 00:26:25.65\00:26:26.98 Ivor: And all of this comes together 00:26:27.02\00:26:28.35 and we haven't even really hit 00:26:28.38\00:26:30.19 the heavy prophetic portion of Daniel yet... 00:26:30.22\00:26:33.42 we've only covered one really prophetic chapter 00:26:33.46\00:26:36.89 but everything else has let us know 00:26:36.93\00:26:38.99 exactly what we're looking for in chapter 7 through 12. 00:26:39.06\00:26:43.63 James: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:26:43.67\00:26:45.43 shall we give our Viewers that one verse in Matthew 27? 00:26:45.47\00:26:48.20 Ivor: Let's do it... yup. 00:26:48.24\00:26:49.57 James: There's... Yvonne, would you read those for us? 00:26:49.60\00:26:52.14 There's... are you there? Yvonne: Sure... where? 00:26:52.17\00:26:54.21 James: Matthew 27 verses 50 to 53. 00:26:54.24\00:26:58.35 We can close out with these because these are powerful. 00:26:58.38\00:27:00.02 Yvonne: 50 to 53... 00:27:00.08\00:27:01.45 "And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, 00:27:01.48\00:27:05.19 and yielded up His spirit. 00:27:05.22\00:27:06.55 Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two 00:27:06.59\00:27:09.49 from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, 00:27:09.52\00:27:11.36 and the rocks were split, and the graves were opened; 00:27:11.39\00:27:14.23 and many bodies of the saints 00:27:14.26\00:27:15.66 who had fallen asleep were raised... " 00:27:15.70\00:27:17.37 keep going? James: Verse 53, yeah. 00:27:17.40\00:27:18.80 Yvonne: "and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, 00:27:18.83\00:27:21.27 they went into the holy city and appeared to many. " 00:27:21.30\00:27:23.77 James: That's it right there. 00:27:23.81\00:27:25.14 Ivor: One of my favorite authors said, 00:27:25.17\00:27:26.68 it was the same hand that tore the veil from top to bottom 00:27:26.71\00:27:29.81 that wrote, "It is finished... " 00:27:29.84\00:27:31.45 on the wall of Belshazzar's palace. 00:27:31.48\00:27:32.91 James: MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN. 00:27:32.95\00:27:34.32 Yvonne: Ooooh... 00:27:34.35\00:27:35.68 Ivor: It is... yeah, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN... 00:27:35.72\00:27:37.25 same hand that wrote that 00:27:37.29\00:27:39.39 is the same hand that tore the veil... 00:27:39.42\00:27:41.02 Yvonne: Wow! 00:27:41.06\00:27:42.39 James: This is the point right here... 00:27:42.42\00:27:43.76 Jesus went down so we could go up. 00:27:43.79\00:27:45.13 Ivor: That's right. 00:27:45.16\00:27:46.49 James: He came to release the captives. 00:27:46.53\00:27:47.86 Ivor: Yeah... yeah. 00:27:47.90\00:27:49.23 James: It's a beautiful picture and so, we got to remember this, 00:27:49.26\00:27:51.47 the prophecies of Daniel are all about the plan of salvation... 00:27:51.50\00:27:54.70 that's what it's all about. 00:27:54.74\00:27:56.10 Yvonne: Amen. James: Praise God. 00:27:56.14\00:27:57.77