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James: Okay, we are
in Daniel chapter 5.
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Yvonne: Yes.
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James: The story continues
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and this time it continues
with Nebuchadnezzar's grandson
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so, Belshazzar has
all the same opportunities
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as Nebuchadnezzar
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and I love this story because
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even though it doesn't end
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the same way
Nebuchadnezzar's story ends,
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where Nebuchadnezzar is
like sealed for heaven...
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he's going to be there, right?
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: Belshazzar
takes a different direction.
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What it tells us though is that
God wants everyone in heaven.
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The Bible tells us... God is not
willing that anyone would perish
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but that all would
come to repentance.
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By the way, that's 2nd
Peter chapter 3 verse 9.
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God wants everyone in heaven
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but He doesn't
force us to be there.
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We still have the
freedom of choice.
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Yvonne: Right.
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James: Nebuchadnezzar eventually
chose for heaven and for God...
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Belshazzar against... he didn't
choose for heaven and for God
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and that's why I love
this prophetic picture here
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because even
though it's a sad picture
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and it must be
sad for God's heart,
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it still identifies where
the choice or the decision lies.
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It... it lies with us...
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God is not against us,
He's not against any human being
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He wants us to be there
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and we're going to see that
as we read through this story,
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it's really powerful
to read through this.
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So, let's begin
with a word of prayer,
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who would like to pray for us?
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Jason: I'll pray.
James: Thanks Jason.
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Jason: "Dear heavenly Father,
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we thank you for what
we've been learning thus far
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and Lord, as we
continue to journey
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deeper into this story line,
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we ask that you would
please help this to strengthen
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our walk with you
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and help these lessons to
strengthen the Viewers' walk
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and the Listeners' walk
with you as well, Father,
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please be with us now as
we continue in our study,
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in Jesus' name, we pray, amen. "
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All: Amen.
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James: So, a little bit
of historical background...
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Belshazzar is surrounded
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by the armies of the
Medes and Persians right here
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and his father,
Nabonidus, is out fighting
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in another part
of the kingdom...
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he's fighting the
Medes and Persians
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so, Nebuchadnezzar is probably
dead by now, he's passed away
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and so, you've got
the father, Nabonidus,
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and then, you've got
the grandson, Belshazzar
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and surrounded but
feeling pretty much at ease,
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he's in Babylon...
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it's surrounded by the River
Euphrates running through it
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and he's got walls
that are wide enough
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to race chariots side by side
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he's got all the fruit and
food and water that he needs
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and so, that's where we
pick up this... this picture...
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and let's just read
in Daniel chapter 5,
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let's start in verse 1
and how far should we read?
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We should read all
the way to verse 9?
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Yeah, 1 through 9.
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Yvonne: Okay,
you want me to read?
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James: Yeah, please.
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Yvonne: "Belshazzar
the king made a great feast
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for a thousand of his lords
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and drank wine in the
presence of the thousand.
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While he tasted the wine,
Belshazzar gave the command
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to bring the gold
and silver vessels
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which his father Nebuchadnezzar
had taken from the temple
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which had been in Jerusalem,
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and the king and his lords,
his wives, and his concubines
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might drink from them.
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Then they
brought the gold vessels
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that had been taken from
the temple of the house of God
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which had been in Jerusalem;
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and the king and his lords,
his wives, and his concubines
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drank from them.
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They drank wine, and praised
the gods of gold and silver,
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bronze and iron, wood and stone.
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In the same hour the
fingers of a man's hand appeared
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and wrote opposite the lampstand
on the plaster of the wall
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of the king's palace;
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and the king saw the
part of the hand that wrote.
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Then the king's
countenance changed,
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and his thoughts troubled him,
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so that the joints of
his hips were loosened
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and his knees
knocked against each other.
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The king cried aloud to
bring in the astrologers,
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the Chaldeans,
and the soothsayers.
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The king spoke, saying
to the wise men of Babylon,
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'Whoever reads this writing,
and tells me its interpretation,
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shall be clothed with purple
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and have a chain of
gold around his neck;
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and he shall be the
third ruler in the kingdom. "
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Now all the
king's wise men came,
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but they could
not read the writing,
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or make known to the
king its interpretation.
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Then King Belshazzar
was greatly troubled,
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his countenance was changed,
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and his lords were astonished. "
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James: Hmmm... hmmm... good.
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Yvonne: Shall I stop there?
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James: Yeah, let's
stop there. Yvonne: Okay.
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James: So, here is the
scenario, he's having a party
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and his world is
falling apart. Yvonne: Right.
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James: And it
applies so much to today...
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where we are right now.
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The world is partying and
everything is falling apart.
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Yvonne: That's true.
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James: We're just
living for the party,
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we're just
living for the good life
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and all around us,
things are just crumbling
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and we want to escape that,
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I think that
Belshazzar wants to escape that,
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he wants to escape
reality. Yvonne: Right.
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James: And so, what does he do?
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As soon as he
starts tasting the wine,
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he goes back to the former days.
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"Hey, bring those
cups of gold and silver
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and those precious vessels...
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gold, silver and
precious things...
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the gold... the silver
and the precious things
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that we have control of...
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bring those things so that
we can live in the past... "
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right? We're going
to live in the past.
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We're not going to
think about the future,
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we're not going to
think about the fact
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that Babylon is about to
fall and that all things are...
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where you want to
think in the past...
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and I think that's
where we are sometimes.
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We're living in
something that isn't real
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to our present
situation, does that make sense?
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All: Hmmm... hmmm... yeah...
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James: And in
this context, we see...
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and you guys jump in with
any thought you have right here
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but in this context, we
see them drinking in verse 4
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and praising the gods of
gold and silver and brass
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and iron and wood
and stone, you know,
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motorcycles and
snowmobiles and computers
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and land and houses and
guns and our investments
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and our music and all
the gods of this world...
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all the things that are made
out of things of this world...
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that's what they're praising...
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now, I don't think it's
wrong for us to have stuff...
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we need to have stuff...
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God even promises to provide
us the things that we need
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so we can occupy
while... while... till He comes
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but to praise those things...
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to worship those things...
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to lift those
things up... to make...
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put our identity
in those things...
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I think that's where we...
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we see these guys
going a little bit too far
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and a lot of times we do that
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because we don't
have anything else.
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I think it's really interesting
that when I became a Christian
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when I accepted Christ...
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one car went out the window...
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another car went out the window,
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my motorcycle
went out the window...
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the house went out the window,
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the drums went out the
window... everything went out
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because they
became less valuable to me
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than what I found in Jesus.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: Now, I have a
house and I have a car...
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and I don't have a motorcycle
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because my wife
doesn't want me to have one...
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Jason: I can see that.
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James: Yeah, we have...
we have a couple of things...
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but they're not the
center of my life anymore.
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Yvonne: Right.
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There are things that we
have to facilitate ministry...
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to facilitate family... to
facilitate what we need to do
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but they're not the center.
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Before... they were
the center of my life,
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"Look at my
motorcycle... look at my...
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look at this...
this is who I am... "
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people go out with you because
you've got this nice car,
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people like you because
you got this nice house,
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people... no
that's not who you are.
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Yvonne: That's right.
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James: You are
identified in Jesus
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and those things are secondary
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but for Belshazzar,
they were number one.
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Yvonne: When I was
in the world and singing
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and you make a lot of
money in the music industry
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well... you can
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and I... I
accumulated a lot of stuff
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but the thing to me was,
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it was always,
"Okay, I want that... "
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and then when you get it,
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it's like,
"Okay, so, what's next?"
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because it doesn't fulfill you
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so, you have all of this "stuff"
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but it
doesn't... it... it... it...
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there's a hole in your
soul that only Jesus can fill
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and you're going around
trying to accumulate things
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but that never does it
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and I remember
thinking, "Oh wow!
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oh... I love that fur coat...
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like, I'm going to
get that fur coat soon,
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so now, how many
jingles do I need to do
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to get that fur coat?"
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And then you think about it
and then you get the fur coat
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and then it's like,
"Okay, so, so then what?"
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So, the Lord had me
get rid of the fur coat...
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not that it's wrong...
I still have a fur coat
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but that's not the point,
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the point is... that's
not what I'm reaching for.
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James: Yes, that's
not your identity...
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Yvonne: No... James:
that's not who you are.
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Yvonne: No...
it's about... you know,
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and the coats that I
have just so everyone knows...
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they're really
old but... you know...
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just so nobody says,
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"Are you buying fur coats now?"
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No, we're talking like...
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as old as Jay almost but...
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Jason: I've got to
have some water on that.
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James: But for a
coat, that's really old.
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Yvonne: Yeah, oh, that's
true, but to me... it's like,
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you have to fill that
hole with something...
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we all have a hole
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and God made that
hole for Him to fill
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and we can run all around and
try to fill it with other things
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if we want to, but ultimately,
we won't feel fulfilled
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until we fill it with Him...
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till He fills that hole.
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Jason: Yeah.
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James: I love
that because God is...
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we could say that God's
bringing judgment on Belshazzar
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but I think what
God is also doing is...
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He's trying to help
him feel his need...
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what you just mentioned, Yvonne.
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So, he thinks he's
satisfied in all this
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and then, all of a
sudden, he's scared to death.
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Yvonne: Right.
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James: He needs help desperately
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and he can't find
it in his wise men...
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just like the story
of... of Nebuchadnezzar...
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he can't find it anywhere
in his kingdom at this point
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something's going to
happen now in a minute
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where he's going to
find some possible help
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but right now, he
can't find it and so, God...
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many times he brings
out the rug from under us,
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He shows us how
absolutely empty everything is
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so that we can feel our need...
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and we feel our
need... we're afraid...
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we're scared,
like, "What in... "
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at that point, God can step in
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and I think
that God does step in
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but I think that it
would have been a shock
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even maybe perhaps...
a "Nineveh" experience
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for Belshazzar to
turn around at this point,
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I don't it wouldn't
have been possible though...
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I think it could
have been possible
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but what's going to happen here
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is very similar to
what we see in Revelation
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is that they "repented
not of their deeds... "
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they repented
not of their deeds...
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they had gone so far... and they
repented not of their deeds.
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I think something else
could have happened here
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and God would have
been opened to him,
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we're going to look at that
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as we get into
more of these verses.
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Ivor: I'm looking at this verse,
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now, my mind's just
kind of been running off
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while you guys were
talking so, I'm sorry...
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please forgive me...
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Yvonne: But you were listening.
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Ivor: I was... I
was listening one ear
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and listening to
something else with another ear
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but it's interesting that
this is the fall of Babylon...
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like, this is the
chapter in which Babylon falls
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and it's interesting
that the thing that happens
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is that the king
takes the... the vessels
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from the temple of the
Lord and... to drink out of them
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so, as far as I know, there
is only one article of furniture
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that had vessels
from which you could drink
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and that was the
Table of Shewbread
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and the Table of
Shewbread was located
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on the north
side of the sanctuary.
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Yvonne: Ooooh...
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Ivor: It was on
the sides of the north.
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The Table of Shewbread
also represented the Word of God
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and so... and by the
way, the Table of Shewbread
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was the one article that
was changed out every Sabbath.
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So, it actually...
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the Table of
Shewbread pointed to...
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the highlight
day was the Sabbath.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: So, it's interesting that
what Babylon is doing here is
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they're taking something
that belongs to the Lord
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and profaning it with wine...
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profaning it with wine...
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and this is when...
when this action happens,
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"Okay, I've been
merciful... merciful...
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now, this thing... when
you profane this thing...
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that's when Babylon falls. "
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So, that's just something
that I want you guys to keep
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in the back of your mind, right,
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when they take
the holy things of God
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and begin to use
it in a profane way,
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this is where Babylon
is finally declared fallen.
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James: It is interesting because
you got in Revelation 18...
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Babylon... with a golden
cup and the wine in the cup
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and that wine is fornication...
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that wine is
unfaithfulness to God.
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Yvonne: "Babylon
is fallen, is fallen,
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because she has made all
nations drink of the wine
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of the wrath of
her fornication... "
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and they're drinking...
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wow! this is... I didn't even...
I didn't connect it before.
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Ivor: You made this
point a little earlier
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that in Daniel 11 verse
40, the king of the north...
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in those verses has
power over gold and silver
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and then it says, the
precious things of Egypt as well
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but what are those
vessels of gold and silver
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that he suddenly has power over?
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And if we're
seeing Daniel 1 through 5,
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is a snapshot of what
happens on a larger scale.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: Global scale
in verses 40 to 45...
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that's very interesting
because that really brings
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into prominence this
issue of the Table of Shewbread
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being on the
sides of the north...
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and that having to
do with the Sabbath
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and by the way, where does
Satan want to sit in heaven?
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On the sides of the north.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
hmmm... Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Yvonne: Hmmm... oooh...
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James: And Medo-Persia...
you've got Cyrus...
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he's the anointed but
he's one that's coming...
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Babylon falls...
this is the replacement.
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Okay, let's keep going here
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because we're getting ahead
of ourselves a little bit...
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we want to keep
up with the text...
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the text in front of us, so...
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Jason: We forgive you
for not listening to us...
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James: These guys know more...
we'll talk... we'll talk later.
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All: Laughter.
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James: Okay, let's read..
Jason, can you read for us...
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just start with verse 10 and
read all the way through to...
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verse... hmmm... yeah, verse 16.
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Jason: Okay...
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"The queen, because of the
words of the king and his lords,
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came to the banquet hall.
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The queen spoke,
saying, 'O king, live forever!
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Do not let your
thoughts trouble you,
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nor let your countenance change.
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There is a man in your kingdom
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in whom is the
Spirit of the Holy God.
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And in the days of your father,
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light and
understanding and wisdom,
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like the wisdom of the
gods, were found in him;
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and King
Nebuchadnezzar your father...
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your father the king...
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made him chief of the magicians,
astrologers, Chaldeans,
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and soothsays.
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Inasmuch as an excellent spirit,
knowledge, understanding,
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interpreting dreams,
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solving riddles,
and explaining enigmas
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were found in this Daniel,
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whom the king
named Belteshazzar,
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now let Daniel be called,
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and he will give
the interpretation. '
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Then Daniel was
brought in before the king.
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The king spoke,
and said to Daniel,
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'Are you that Daniel who is
one of the captives from Judah,
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whom my father the
king brought from Judah?
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I have heard of you, that
the Spirit of God is in you,
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and that light and understanding
and excellent wisdom
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are found in you.
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Now the wise
men, the astrologers,
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have been brought in before me,
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that they should
read this writing
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and make known to
me it's interpretation,
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but they could not give the
interpretation of the thing. "
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That sounds familiar...
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"And I have heard of you,
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that you can
give interpretations
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and explain enigmas.
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Now if you can read the writing
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and make known to
me its interpretation,
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you shall be clothed with purple
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and have a chain of
gold around your neck,
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and shall be the third
ruler in the kingdom. "
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James: Wow! Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: It's really
interesting isn't it
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that he doesn't
know who Daniel is.
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Yvonne: It is.
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James: "Is he...
is that for real?
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are you for real? you
don't know who Daniel is?
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well, what...?"
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Yvonne: Do you
think he's retired by now,
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I mean, he's
old... he's really old...
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do you think
he's kind of retired?
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James: I think
he's kind of retired
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but I think that the
king is being political here.
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I think he knows who Daniel is.
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I think later on in the
story we're going to find
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that he... he
should know who Daniel is.
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He should know... he
should know the story
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and he's acting like
he doesn't know the story
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because what
happens a lot of times is,
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when people are
confronted with the truth,
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I imagine that
grandfather Nebuchadnezzar
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held little
Belshazzar on his lap
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and told him the
story... his testimony.
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I can imagine he told him
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because grandfather
Nebuchadnezzar's like...
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in here he's called "father"
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but that's because the
Bible doesn't use it...
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at least doesn't
use "grandfather"
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so, if we trace it back to
the Bible, we're going to find
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I imagine that he told
him the story again and again
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until he was a young boy
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and I imagine
that Nebuchadnezzar...
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because of his
experience with God
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just wanted all of
his family to be saved...
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like, He wants
them all to know God...
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you know what I'm saying?
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And so, we're sharing the story
and they're making choices...
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they're making choices... we're
going to see this as we go on
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but the thing that I think is...
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another thing that's
really interesting here
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is... the Queen Mother
remembers who Daniel is.
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Yvonne: Yeah.
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James: She remembers...
and she was back in...
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it's interesting how she
comes into the picture here
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but she sounds like...
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it sounds like she
is not Belshazzar's wife
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but either the wife of...
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it's either his
mom or his grandmother.
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Yvonne: Right.
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James: The Queen
Mother... and then...
00:17:38.99\00:17:40.32
another thing that's
interesting here is...
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he says, "If you give me
the understanding of this dream,
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I'm going to give
you three things...
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I'm going to give you clothing
of scarlet... or purple...
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it says there...
King James says "scarlet"
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a chain of gold around your neck
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and you're going to be
third ruler in the kingdom
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and Daniel is probably thinking
to himself, "Wait a minute...
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God already told me
though my sins be as scarlet,
00:18:00.21\00:18:02.98
they'll be as white as
snow, why do I need "scarlet"?
00:18:03.01\00:18:05.75
Yvonne: Right.
00:18:05.78\00:18:07.12
James: God already promised me
00:18:07.15\00:18:08.48
that I'll be
walking on streets of gold.
00:18:08.52\00:18:10.29
Why would I want to
settle for a gold chain?
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God already told me
00:18:12.55\00:18:14.36
that I'm going to be
sitting on a throne with Him,
00:18:14.39\00:18:16.52
why would I want
third rulership in a kingdom
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that's about to fall?
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Yvonne: Right.
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James: We don't
think that way...
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we... we settle for the stuff
this world has to offer us.
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We settle for the
wealth... the gold chains...
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we settle for the
prestige... the clothing...
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the things that we get...
but they're covered with scarlet
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in other words,
they're... they're sinful...
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we get that stuff through
sin and we settle for prestige
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that isn't even close to
what God has for us in heaven.
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We want all of that...
we settle for all of that...
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reminds us of the
temptation of Christ...
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"I'll give you all these
things if you worship me. "
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:18:50.89\00:18:52.23
James: Daniel had
his... his focus on heaven...
00:18:52.26\00:18:54.13
he was like, "I don't
want any of that stuff,
00:18:54.16\00:18:56.40
why would I want that stuff?"
00:18:56.46\00:18:57.93
Yvonne: Right... right.
00:18:57.97\00:18:59.30
James: It's...
it's interesting that
00:18:59.33\00:19:00.67
one of the reasons why
Satan's bribes or temptations
00:19:00.70\00:19:03.37
have so much power over us
00:19:03.41\00:19:04.74
is because we don't have
ourselves in heavenly places.
00:19:04.77\00:19:06.51
If we have ourselves
in heavenly places...
00:19:06.57\00:19:08.64
see, Pharaoh was
that way... Pharaoh...
00:19:08.68\00:19:10.68
I mean... excuse
me... Moses was that way...
00:19:10.71\00:19:12.31
Moses was... was next in line...
00:19:12.35\00:19:14.05
I mean, he was the
son of Pharaoh's daughter,
00:19:14.08\00:19:15.78
and it says in... in Hebrews
00:19:15.85\00:19:18.32
that he chose to
suffer affliction
00:19:18.35\00:19:20.89
with the people of God
00:19:20.92\00:19:22.26
than to have the
pleasure of sin for a season.
00:19:22.29\00:19:23.89
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:19:23.93\00:19:25.26
James: His mind... because he
looked forward to the reward...
00:19:25.29\00:19:27.00
his mind was in
the right place...
00:19:27.03\00:19:28.80
Daniel's mind is
in the right place...
00:19:28.83\00:19:30.50
like, "I'm not going
to settle for this...
00:19:30.53\00:19:32.10
I know this world is
coming to an end and I... "
00:19:32.13\00:19:35.07
and when we have
our focus on heaven
00:19:35.10\00:19:37.21
and we can see what
God has for us there,
00:19:37.24\00:19:39.21
that's when these temptations
start losing their power over us
00:19:39.27\00:19:42.34
that's where we need to be at.
00:19:42.38\00:19:43.71
Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:19:43.75\00:19:45.08
Yvonne: He had a
spirit of contentment...
00:19:45.11\00:19:47.18
he wasn't... he...
he wasn't coveting power
00:19:47.22\00:19:49.58
because he's
already been powerful...
00:19:49.62\00:19:51.75
you know, he's
experienced that...
00:19:51.79\00:19:53.82
he wasn't trying
to get a lot of money
00:19:53.86\00:19:55.56
with the gold
chain or anything...
00:19:55.59\00:19:57.26
he is like... "You know what?
00:19:57.29\00:19:58.73
I don't want
any of your stuff...
00:19:58.79\00:20:00.20
it's tainted anyway...
00:20:00.23\00:20:02.20
just like... let me just
tell you what God said. "
00:20:02.23\00:20:05.10
James: Now, that's the key
point we haven't got to that yet
00:20:05.13\00:20:06.74
but let me just tell...
00:20:06.77\00:20:08.10
"You may not... I
don't need the stuff
00:20:08.14\00:20:09.47
but I'm still going to
tell you what God said. "
00:20:09.50\00:20:10.84
Yvonne: Right... right.
00:20:10.87\00:20:12.21
James: I'm still
going to be faithful.
00:20:12.24\00:20:13.58
Jason: To me it
seems like Belshazzar...
00:20:13.61\00:20:14.94
he just thought he was
living his best life...
00:20:14.98\00:20:18.05
as the young
folks say, "they... "
00:20:18.08\00:20:20.65
he just thought he
was living his best life.
00:20:20.68\00:20:23.12
He had his concubines...
he had his wives...
00:20:23.15\00:20:26.25
he had his alcohol...
he had all these things...
00:20:26.32\00:20:29.39
he's partying... super...
00:20:29.42\00:20:31.03
has all this money
and all this other stuff
00:20:31.09\00:20:33.16
and thinking he's
living his best life,
00:20:33.19\00:20:35.20
and then he sees this
hand writing on the wall
00:20:35.23\00:20:39.43
and that's when it gets real.
00:20:39.47\00:20:40.87
That's when that partying and...
I bet you he's sobered up.
00:20:40.90\00:20:45.44
That's what it seems
like... he just got sober...
00:20:45.47\00:20:48.24
just real... real quick...
00:20:48.28\00:20:49.94
Ivor: It's interesting
because now he's like,
00:20:49.98\00:20:52.61
"Yeah, I'll make you
third ruler in kingdom... "
00:20:52.65\00:20:55.25
he doesn't even know him...
00:20:55.28\00:20:56.92
I mean, like...
he's just like...
00:20:56.95\00:20:59.19
"Ah... " I mean...
00:20:59.25\00:21:00.59
really, he's treating this
kingdom really flippantly...
00:21:00.62\00:21:03.79
or he is so terrified that
now none of this stuff matters.
00:21:03.83\00:21:07.00
"Hey, take the
kingdom and you got... "
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but at that point,
it's like... it's too late.
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Jason: Or his
selective amnesia wore off...
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like, you were
saying how his grandpa...
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James: Yeah. Jason: Yeah.
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Yvonne: The other thing to
me was that this keeps coming up
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how inept the
soothsayers and the magicians
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and the astrologers
were, I mean, they, you know...
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they... they... it's
like the kings don't learn
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because they keep
calling on these guys
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and they're worthless...
they haven't been able to do it
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in his
grandfather's administration...
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his father's administration
most likely... or in his...
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they're just... you know...
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but it's... God had a plan
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and it is His way
of exalting Daniel
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and letting
Belshazzar know who God is.
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James: Hmmm...
hmmm... Jason: hmmm... hmmm...
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James: I think it's a really
good point... God has a plan...
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a lot of times
we look at Daniel...
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we look at this God that lifts
up kings and brings down kings
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which he's about to
do here with Babylon...
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we think, "Oh...
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so God's the One that's
in control of everything... "
00:22:08.96\00:22:12.09
that's the
conclusion we leave with...
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God's in control of everything
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and half the people in a
Daniel Seminar might leave...
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they're going,
"Yes, God's in control,
00:22:19.40\00:22:20.84
He's got a plan... "
00:22:20.87\00:22:22.20
and the other half
of the people are like,
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"So, God's in
control of this world...
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who would want to
follow a God like that?
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Look at all the evil...
look at all the bad stuff. "
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So, it's really
important for us to understand
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which this brings
out... that God has a plan
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but you have a choice.
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Jason: Hmmm...
hmmm... Yvonne: Right.
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James: And you can choose...
you can still choose the evil...
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you can still choose the bad...
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and your choices will
impact other people...
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God doesn't have a
plan that includes...
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He... God is not
a micro manager...
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God is a micro organizer.
00:22:48.16\00:22:50.50
Jason: Hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: He's not a micro
manager, He's a micro organizer.
00:22:52.13\00:22:53.94
Yvonne: That's
good... that's good.
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James: So, He has an
organized plan for your life
00:22:55.37\00:22:57.31
and He has an
organized plan of salvation
00:22:57.34\00:22:59.24
and He would love
for you to get on board
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with His plan that He has for
your life and for organization
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but if you choose not to...
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He's not going
to force it on you
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and thereby, you're going to
see a lot of evil in this world,
00:23:06.48\00:23:08.75
a lot of pain in this world,
a lot of suffering in this world
00:23:08.78\00:23:10.35
but God is not responsible...
He doesn't want that to happen.
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Jesus said that we should pray,
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"Thy will be done on
earth as it is in heaven... "
00:23:15.96\00:23:18.69
which means, it's not being done
on earth as it is in heaven.
00:23:18.73\00:23:21.83
"Deliver us from
evil... " which means,
00:23:21.86\00:23:24.03
there are a lot of things
00:23:24.07\00:23:25.40
that are happening in
this world that are evil
00:23:25.43\00:23:26.77
that God wants
to deliver us from
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but we've got to pray
and ask Him to do that...
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we've got to put
our will on His side.
00:23:30.31\00:23:31.91
I think that's really important
00:23:31.94\00:23:33.27
when we look at
the book of Daniel.
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Yvonne: It's good.
00:23:34.68\00:23:36.24
James: Okay, so,
any other thoughts here?
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All right, so,
let's read now the last...
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should we read the last
section, is that what we said?
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No, let's go from verses
17 to verse 23... 17 to 23...
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Yvonne, would you
like to read that?
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Yvonne: Sure...
"Then Daniel answered,
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and said before the king,
00:23:57.80\00:23:59.13
'Let your gifts be for yourself,
00:23:59.17\00:24:00.97
and give your
rewards to another;
00:24:01.00\00:24:03.04
yet I will read the
writing to the king,
00:24:03.07\00:24:05.27
and make known to
him the interpretation.
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O king, the Most High God
gave Nebuchadnezzar your father
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a kingdom and
majesty, glory and honor.
00:24:11.91\00:24:14.88
And because of the
majesty that He gave him,
00:24:14.95\00:24:17.59
all peoples, nations,
and languages trembled
00:24:17.62\00:24:20.19
and feared before him.
00:24:20.26\00:24:21.76
Whomever he wished, he executed;
00:24:21.82\00:24:24.29
whomever he
wished, he kept alive;
00:24:24.33\00:24:26.53
whomever he wished, he set up;
00:24:26.56\00:24:28.70
and whomever he
wished, he put down.
00:24:28.73\00:24:30.87
But when his
heart was lifted up,
00:24:30.90\00:24:33.03
and his spirit
was hardened in pride,
00:24:33.07\00:24:35.54
he was deposed
from his kingly throne,
00:24:35.57\00:24:38.01
and they took
his glory from him.
00:24:38.04\00:24:40.51
Then he was driven
from the sons of men,
00:24:40.54\00:24:43.01
his heart was
made like the beasts,
00:24:43.04\00:24:45.15
and his dwelling was
with the wild donkeys.
00:24:45.18\00:24:47.18
They fed him
with grass like oxen,
00:24:47.22\00:24:49.45
and his body was wet
with the dew of heaven,
00:24:49.48\00:24:51.75
till he knew
that the Most High God
00:24:51.79\00:24:53.86
rules in the kingdom of men,
00:24:53.89\00:24:55.39
and appoints over
it whomever He chooses.
00:24:55.42\00:24:58.26
But you his son, Belshazzar,
have not humbled your heart,
00:24:58.29\00:25:03.43
although you knew all this.
00:25:03.47\00:25:05.40
And you have lifted yourself
up against the Lord of heaven.
00:25:05.43\00:25:08.97
They have brought the
vessels of His house before you,
00:25:09.00\00:25:11.74
and you and your lords,
00:25:11.77\00:25:13.58
and your wives
and your concubines,
00:25:13.61\00:25:15.11
have drunk wine from them.
00:25:15.14\00:25:16.98
And you have praised
the gods of silver and gold,
00:25:17.05\00:25:19.75
bronze and iron, wood and stone,
00:25:19.78\00:25:22.05
which did not
see or hear or know;
00:25:22.08\00:25:24.25
and the God who holds
your breath in His hand
00:25:24.29\00:25:27.56
and owns all your ways,
you have not glorified. "
00:25:27.59\00:25:31.06
James: All right, so,
this is really powerful.
00:25:31.09\00:25:34.53
First of all,
hypocrisy exposed...
00:25:34.56\00:25:37.53
"You knew all of this...
what? you knew all of this
00:25:37.57\00:25:40.74
and if you know that story,
00:25:40.77\00:25:42.67
you know that I am
part of that story... "
00:25:42.70\00:25:44.77
and then the other
thing is the gospel exposed
00:25:44.81\00:25:46.81
and it's so beautiful here...
00:25:46.84\00:25:48.18
when you read
these words in verse 23
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"God in whose
hand thy breath is,
00:25:50.71\00:25:53.28
and whose are all thy ways,
you have not glorified... "
00:25:53.31\00:25:56.28
you got to...
you got to think...
00:25:56.32\00:25:57.89
you got to think
New Testament here...
00:25:57.92\00:25:59.59
you got to think Matthew
5 where Jesus talks about...
00:25:59.62\00:26:02.99
you know, and Acts 17
00:26:03.02\00:26:05.79
where Paul talks
about this whole idea
00:26:05.83\00:26:07.80
that there's not a
sparrow that falls...
00:26:07.86\00:26:09.76
there isn't a hair of your
head that isn't numbered...
00:26:09.80\00:26:11.93
God knows all of your needs...
He knows where you are...
00:26:11.97\00:26:13.80
He gives us life and
breath and all things.
00:26:13.84\00:26:16.00
You've got to see that
00:26:16.04\00:26:18.07
gospel-saturated
relationship that God has
00:26:18.11\00:26:20.74
with each and
every person right here,
00:26:20.78\00:26:23.08
and that's what
Daniel is bringing out...
00:26:23.14\00:26:25.38
he's bringing him the
gospel first and foremost
00:26:25.41\00:26:26.75
and he's bringing him the gospel
00:26:26.78\00:26:28.45
because he wants him to
turn away from this idea
00:26:28.48\00:26:30.82
of rewarding me with a chain
and scarlet and with a position
00:26:30.85\00:26:34.26
and just humbling yourself
00:26:34.29\00:26:35.62
and that
possibility is still there
00:26:35.66\00:26:37.89
and when you get to
the end of the story,
00:26:37.93\00:26:39.26
he doesn't humble himself...
he gives Daniel the gold
00:26:39.29\00:26:41.80
and the position and the robe
00:26:41.83\00:26:43.90
which just confirms him
in his unrepentant state
00:26:43.93\00:26:46.90
and then, right
then, the kingdom falls.
00:26:46.94\00:26:48.70
So, basically what you have
here is this beautiful picture
00:26:48.74\00:26:52.07
of Daniel reminding him of
past history... past prophecy...
00:26:52.11\00:26:55.18
and including in that... and
that's what we're trying to do,
00:26:55.21\00:26:58.28
including in that this idea that
00:26:58.31\00:27:00.28
God loves every
individual on planet earth...
00:27:00.32\00:27:03.69
He gives life and
breath to all things.
00:27:03.72\00:27:05.92
All: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:27:05.95\00:27:07.29
James: Any other thoughts?
00:27:07.32\00:27:08.66
We try to close
this out in 48 seconds...
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All: Laughter...
00:27:11.86\00:27:14.03
James: It's like Hmmm...
hmmm... hmmm... hmmm... yeah...
00:27:14.06\00:27:16.30
keep reading
now... keep reading.
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Ivor: I think... I don't think
we should touch this last part.
00:27:18.07\00:27:21.70
James: No, no,
we're not going to.
00:27:21.74\00:27:23.10
We're going to
connect that to Daniel 6
00:27:23.14\00:27:25.91
because we can do that
transition right there.
00:27:25.94\00:27:27.41
Daniel 5... the last verses
that go into the fall of Babylon
00:27:27.44\00:27:31.35
and then, Darius the Mede
and boom... we're in chapter 6,
00:27:31.38\00:27:35.25
where Darius sets up
his kingdom and goes through
00:27:35.28\00:27:37.75
and he includes Daniel
00:27:37.79\00:27:39.49
so... but any other
thoughts on this last part
00:27:39.52\00:27:41.52
in the last 15 seconds?
00:27:41.56\00:27:42.89
Yvonne: No,
this was really good.
00:27:42.92\00:27:44.86
Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:27:44.89\00:27:46.23
James: Yeah, it's good stuff...
we just need to remember
00:27:46.26\00:27:48.50
that God loves all people
00:27:48.53\00:27:49.86
and He gives
everyone an opportunity
00:27:49.90\00:27:51.23
and He wants
everyone to be in heaven...
00:27:51.27\00:27:52.60
everyone... but we
still have freedom of choice.
00:27:52.63\00:27:55.30
God is a micro
organizer not a micro manager...
00:27:55.34\00:27:57.97
we still have to choose.
00:27:58.01\00:27:59.34