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James: We are moving on up.
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Yvonne: Yeah... All: Laughter.
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James: So, we've
come from Daniel 1...
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spent a little time there...
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Daniel 2... spent a
little time there...
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now we're in Daniel 3
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and we're going to
see an amazing connection
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between Daniel 2 and Daniel 3...
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an amazing practical
connection in relationship to
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our own experience
with God and how that works.
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There were some amazing insights
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that we were talking about in
the last meeting with the image
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and how it represents different
parts of our own lives...
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our own lives...
our own decisions...
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the way we walk with God...
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and we'll see that playing out
in Nebuchadnezzar's life here
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as we move into
Daniel chapter 3,
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but we're also going to
see some amazing parallels
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to end-time prophecy.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: When you get
into the book of Revelation,
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sometimes the reason
why it's so difficult
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is because people don't refer
back to the stories in the Bible
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and if you could refer back...
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if we had to do it all
over again, I would say,
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"Let's do Daniel first and
then we'll do Revelation... "
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because that would have
laid a really good foundation
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for understanding some of
the symbols from Revelation
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and so, when you
read Revelation...
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if you can refer
back to these stories,
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ah... there's a
treasure house of understanding
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that can open up and
that's what we'll do too,
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we'll make that
connection between those two.
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Yvonne: Yes, that's good.
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James: So, we'll probably spend
at least a couple of sessions
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right here in...
in Daniel chapter 3.
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Yvonne, would you like to
lead us in a word of prayer?
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Yvonne: Sure... "Father God,
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thank You so very much
for these beautiful, beautiful
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insights that you're giving
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and we just praise You
Lord for Your Holy Spirit
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in whose...
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one of whose functions is
to lead us into all truth,
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so, we just thank You Lord
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and we ask you to continue
to bless and guide and direct,
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in Jesus' name, amen. "
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All: Amen.
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James: All right,
so, Daniel chapter 3...
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let's just
start out here, Jason,
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and read a few of these verses,
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let's read Daniel 3 and
let's start with verse 1
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and we'll read all the
way through to verse 7.
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Jason: Okay, "Nebuchadnezzar
the king made an image of gold,
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whose height was sixty
cubits and its width six cubits.
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He set it up in
the plain of Dura,
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in the province of Babylon.
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And King Nebuchadnezzar
sent word to gather together
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the satraps, the administrators,
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the governors, the counselors,
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the treasurers, the
judges, the magistrates,
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and all the
officials of the provinces,
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to come to the
dedication of the image
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which King
Nebuchadnezzar had set up.
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So the satraps,
the administrators,
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the governors, the counselors,
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the treasurers, the
judges, the magistrates,
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and all the
officials of the provinces
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gathered together for
the dedication of the image
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that King
Nebuchadnezzar had set up;
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and they stood before the image
that Nebuchadnezzar had set up.
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Then a herald cried
aloud: 'To you it is commanded,
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O peoples,
nations, and languages,
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that at the time you
hear the sound of the horn,
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flute harp, lyre, and psaltery,
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in symphony with
all kinds of music,
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you shall fall down
and worship the gold image
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that King
Nebuchadnezzar has set up;
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and whoever does not
fall down and worship
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shall be cast immediately
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into the midst of a
burning fiery furnace. '
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so at that time when all
the people heard the sound
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of the horn,
flute, harp, and lyre,
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in symphony with
all kinds of music,
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all the people,
nations, and languages
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fell down and
worshiped the gold image
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which King
Nebuchadnezzar had set up. "
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James: Wow! Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: You know, music
is a universal language
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and it sounds like
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there's a lot of
different people groups here,
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but the one thing
they'll have in common is...
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they all hear that music
and when they hear that music,
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they're going to
bow down and worship...
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that's the sign...
that's the indicator...
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that's the mode...
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that's what
Nebuchadnezzar is using here.
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One of the first questions
you have to ask yourself is,
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"What in the world
is this guy doing?"
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I mean, he was just
like, on fire for God...
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he's was on fire, like,
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"Your God is
the God of gods... "
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I mean, he's worshipping Daniel,
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he's like... "This
is... there's no...
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Daniel, you're
number one right now,
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and your friends...
yeah, bring them in too...
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I mean, whatever you
want, you're going to get it,
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I'm going to give you cars...
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I'm going to give you
your own private jet...
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you get everything... " right?
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"You got everything... "
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and now, he is making an image
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which is what he was
shown... the image...
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but he's making it all of gold.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: He's
making it all of gold
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and if there's one point that I
think is really important here,
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to emphasize and
clarify and that is
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intellectual truth alone
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is not going to take
us all the way with Jesus.
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Yvonne: Right.
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James: There are a lot of
people who know the "Bible"
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actually, it reminds
me of a verse in James
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where it says that
the devils know the Bible.
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They believe...
and what do they do?
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They tremble...
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so, just knowing the Bible...
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people say, "Well, I
know the Bible, I... "
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naw... no... no...
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God is... and I think
this is really powerful...
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it's beautiful...
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God is actually
tracking us through
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Nebuchadnezzar's experience
to help us to understand
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how to go deeper
than just the Bible.
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That's what we need.
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We need to know how to
go deeper than the Bible.
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Another thing that's...
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that's coming out
here that I really love,
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is, God doesn't give up on
us when we give up on him...
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Nebuchadnezzar is kind
of like turning his back
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on the real truth
that God showed him
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and it was... wow!
talk about a powerful...
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like, this was powerful
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and yet God sticks
with Nebuchadnezzar...
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God works through
this with Nebuchadnezzar...
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what we're going to see
here in this story is powerful
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in relationship to how
God is patient with us...
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and how God works through
our trials... our difficulties
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even when we neglect to live
up to that truth that we have,
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so, if there are
Viewers out there who feel like,
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"Man, I've known all this truth
and I've turned away from God...
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and it's no use now... "
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no, you need to... you
need to take note of this story,
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this is a powerful story
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and Nebuchadnezzar
has... we know this...
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one of the issues
that Nebuchadnezzar has
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is... he has anger issues.
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Yvonne: Yes.
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James: He has anger issues...
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he gets so upset
with his wise men,
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he was going to kill them all...
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that's in Daniel chapter 2
and now in Daniel chapter 3,
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we're going to see
him get angry again.
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God can deal with
our anger issues...
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He can take out
all of our issues...
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He can work through
all of that and get us...
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get us completely knit with
Him... heart, soul and spirit.
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So...
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Jason: He seems like
he was an Extremist...
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like, and I know, as
we continue to go on,
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we'll see even more of that...
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he's... on this
side he's extreme...
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then on this
side, he's extreme...
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and he didn't really find...
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you know, for a while, he
didn't find the middle ground,
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so, he seemed like an Extremist
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and it's interesting here
too in Daniel chapter 3 and...
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and verse 2
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where he starts naming all
the people that he sent word to,
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I mean, this is like...
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everybody who's
anybody in the kingdom...
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you know, so all the pressure...
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imagine the
pressure that you have on...
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you've got these governors...
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you've got the
satraps... the administrators...
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you've got
everybody who's anybody...
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just it's like you
have the whole White House
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just coming out and saying,
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"Okay, now, this is
what's going to happen...
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this is what you have to do...
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or else you're
going to the fire. "
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Ivor: You're going to
the Babylonian Grammys.
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All: Laughter...
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Ivor: "And here, the
ultimate Grammy goes to...
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Nebuchadnezzar!"
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Clapping...
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James: "Everybody,
the music is playing...
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hurry up... hurry
up and comply... "
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Jason: Yeah... yeah...
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James: That's a
really good point, Jason,
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and I think we should
elaborate on that a little bit.
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Nebuchadnezzar is an Extremist
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in the bad and in
the good supposedly...
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you know, whatever way he goes
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and Nebuchadnezzar is a
perfect illustration of us
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and we are
imbalanced and extreme
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and that's the way we go...
that's the way society goes,
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our tendency is to be
extreme one way or the another
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and we tend to swing in those
extremes and we see that and...
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but I loved how
you set us up for...
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only God can really
bring us to balance.
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Isaiah 30 verse 21...
one of my favorite verses...
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"You'll hear a
voice behind you saying,
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'This is the way,
walk ye in it... '
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when you turn to the left
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or when you turn to the right. "
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So, we tend to turn to
the left and to the right
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and God tends to speak
in to us in those times
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and help us to
get... to find that balance.
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Any other thoughts here?
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Yvonne: One things
that I was going to say...
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He... when He gets
the word from Daniel...
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the interpretation from Daniel,
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he falls on his face
prostrate before Daniel, right?
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James: It says he
worshipped him in King James.
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Yvonne: Oh, okay, yeah
he... yeah, here it says,
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"He falls on his face
prostrate... " worship...
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and so, he's showing
this ultimate respect.
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This is what he's trying
to get from his subjects...
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"I'm the one now...
fall down and worship me
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as... as represented
by this image of me. "
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So, "worship me" and
that's again... Satan...
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that whole thing of worship...
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who or whom are
you going to worship?
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It's all about worship
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and that's what he's
showing in chapter 3.
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In chapter 2, he's falling
down before Daniel and...
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and he is
uplifting the God of heaven
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but then, how
quickly we forget...
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James: Yeah.
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Yvonne: And in chapter
3... "No, worship me... "
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you know, your God
is the God of gods...
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your God is this and that...
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but now it's "Worship me... "
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So, I... I think that you know,
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one application that
we can make with this is,
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you can't rely on
yesterday's insights,
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you have to have
fresh relationship with God
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all the time
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because otherwise
you're going to fall into
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a whole other kind of worship.
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Ivor: And many say this...
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Ivor is smiling because
he has an important point.
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Yvonne: Laughter. All: Laughter.
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Ivor: You know, what
God spoke to Nebuchadnezzar
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through Daniel... was prophecy.
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Yvonne: Right.
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Ivor: And what Nebuchadnezzar
does in Daniel chapter 3
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is... he changes prophecy.
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James: Hmmm... Yvonne: Ooooooh!
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Ivor: He's like... I'm
going to present... this is
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and what he
presents is false prophecy...
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what he presents
is false prophecy.
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James: It is... this
king is not going to last.
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Yvonne: Right.
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Ivor: And... so
that's on the prophetic sense
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but in a practical sense,
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how many of us who
live in false prophecy?
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James: Yeah.
Yvonne: Unpack that.
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Ivor: Okay, you know...
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"Man, I'm going to be
a hip-hop rap musician...
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I'm going to have money, fame...
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this is what I'm here
for... this is my destiny... "
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and God's like, "No,
that's false prophecy. "
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: "Let me
show you your destiny. "
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Ivor: Yeah,
"That's not your destiny...
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that's not who I
called you to be... "
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and how many of us
are living false prophecy?
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And the picture looks all gold
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like, "Oh man, yes... "
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and God is like,
"No... that's not...
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that's not what I told you...
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is that what I told you?
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Come on, do we need
to go back to Daniel 2
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for me to show you that
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what I want you to
do is humble yourself...
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it's to become like
dust, to become nothing
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so that I can use
you to do something. "
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Yvonne: Yes.
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Ivor: And so, yeah, it's...
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it's like, how
many of us live out
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what we think is going
to... what looks like gold to us
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and then, want
other people to bow down
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to what we see as our future.
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You know, "Hey, this is...
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so, you need to bow down because
this is what I'm going to do"
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and God's like,
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"That's not the
plan I have for you... "
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you know, so there...
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we take us over to
Revelation chapter 13...
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we see that there's
an image that is set up
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and this is paralleling what
happens in Revelation chapter 13
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and Babylon ultimately
sets out false prophecy
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and many a people
are... end up deceived
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because they end up believing
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a false version
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of what's supposed
to happen in the future.
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Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: And many times
God does have to do that,
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I really love these thoughts
that you guys are sharing.
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Many times God does
have to bring us back
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to remind us of Daniel 2.
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Do you remember Nebuchadnezzar?
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How frustrating
it was to be troubled
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and to have no answer?
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: You
remember what it was like
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to seek the wisdom of the world
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and to have no
one that can help you?
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All: Hmmm... hmmm...
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James: Do you remember what
it was like to be at the end
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so frustrated that you're
ready to just wipe people out?
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Do you remember
what that was like?
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You know, so, the
trials that we go through
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are to remind us that
the way we build the future
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and the way God
builds the future...
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the way that we direct our
steps and... and look in...
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and the way God
does are different
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and we need to trust God for
our future and not ourselves.
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Yvonne: Yes... yes.
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James: Nebuchadnezzar, I
think, is naturally afraid
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to come to an end at the head...
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the head part comes to an end.
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I think that because God
has put eternity in our hearts,
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that all humanity has that fear
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and so, God wants to belay...
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He wants to comfort,
in a sense, that fear
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by showing up, "Hey, you know,
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I've got a plan for you...
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you've got a
future and a hope...
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you're going to rest in Christ
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and you're going to
have eternal life again... "
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and giving us that then...
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then he says, "Now,
are you going to trust Me
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with your future?
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It's not coming to an
end so just trust Me...
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just trust Me...
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we'll walk
through this together. "
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Nebuchadnezzar loses
that trust just a little bit.
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I think part of his issue is...
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you know, in worshipping Daniel,
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he's still going
through a human being...
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and he's not
going directly to God...
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he's still going
through a human being
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and when you worship people,
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no matter how
good they might be...
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no matter how
helpful they might be...
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you're going to
want to be worshiped also
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because it's just...
it's just an outward...
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the reason why we look at people
and we give them so much, like,
00:14:05.94\00:14:08.91
you know, adoration and worship
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is because we want
adoration and worship also
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and in a sense, our superstars
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and our connection with
our superstars make us great.
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Ivor: Hmmm...
hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: And
that's why we do it...
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you know, "Yeah,
my basketball team...
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my football guy and my
team... and my... my... "
00:14:22.59\00:14:25.03
and then when they lose...
when they let us down we say,
00:14:25.09\00:14:27.10
"Oh, you know... we... "
because it's personal for us
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and so, we want people
to see us as winners...
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we want people to see us with...
"Yeah... wow... okay... "
00:14:31.63\00:14:35.14
so, that's part of
why we worship people...
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why we worship people
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and it's a natural inclination
that God wants to remove
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because people
will always let us down.
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Yvonne: Always...
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James: They're always
going to disappoint us
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but God will never disappoint us
00:14:46.88\00:14:48.22
and this is the lesson that God
is trying to show Nebuchadnezzar
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and each one of us
as we go through this.
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Yvonne: Yes.
00:14:52.55\00:14:53.89
Ivor: Yeah, I'm going
to add another thought here
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that would again
bring in another dimension
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and then we can
again go back and forth
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between these dimensions
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but we see here
that Nebuchadnezzar makes
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an entire image of gold.
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You remember back
in Daniel chapter 2
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that Daniel had
said to Nebuchadnezzar,
00:15:07.84\00:15:10.84
"You are this head of gold... "
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he said, "You're
a king of kings... "
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he used that term,
"You're a king of kings
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and you are this head of gold. "
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In Ezekiel 26 verse 7...
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if I can have one of you...
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or you know what? Let me just...
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I'm going to pull it up on
my computer here real quick,
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so, Ezekiel 26 verse 7...
we talked about this before,
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"For thus saith the Lord GOD;
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Behold, I will bring upon Tyrus
Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon,
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a king of kings, from the north,
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with horses... chariots...
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horsemen...
companies, and much people. "
00:15:44.84\00:15:46.68
So, when Daniel
says to Nebuchadnezzar,
00:15:46.71\00:15:48.48
"You are this head of
gold... " what he's saying is,
00:15:48.51\00:15:50.91
"Nebuchadnezzar,
you... king of kings...
00:15:50.95\00:15:54.25
a king from the north...
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are this head of gold. "
00:15:56.18\00:15:57.59
James: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:15:57.62\00:15:58.95
Ivor: So, when Nebuchadnezzar
makes this entire image of gold
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what you're looking at...
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is an image of
the king of the north.
00:16:04.09\00:16:05.59
James: Hmmm...
hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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Ivor: Now,
Nebuchadnezzar's thinking...
00:16:07.80\00:16:09.90
"I'm the king of the north... "
00:16:09.96\00:16:11.47
but Nebuchadnezzar
doesn't even realize
00:16:11.50\00:16:14.30
that the image he has up there
is not even an image of himself.
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James: Hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:16:19.94\00:16:21.34
wow...
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Ivor: So, when you go
back to the book of Exodus,
00:16:23.75\00:16:27.65
God had instructed
Moses to make two Cherubim
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that stood on either side
of the Ark of the Covenant.
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Yvonne: Right.
00:16:34.76\00:16:36.32
Ivor: Those Cherubim
were made of all gold.
00:16:36.36\00:16:40.16
One of those Cherubim
we know was Lucifer...
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and when you go to
Isaiah chapter 14...
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James: Hmmm...
hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm...
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James: And by the
way, Ezekiel 28 tells us
00:16:48.14\00:16:49.80
that one of those
Cherubim's was Lucifer.
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Ivor: That's right... and
when we go to Isaiah chapter 14,
00:16:51.44\00:16:54.44
and I think we
should just read that,
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let's go Isaiah 14 and...
you can hold your place there
00:16:55.91\00:16:58.68
and just have one of
you turn to Isaiah 14
00:16:58.71\00:17:00.62
and read verses 12 to 14.
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Jason: 12 to 14... Ivor: Yes.
00:17:03.18\00:17:06.69
Yvonne: You have it?
Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:17:06.72\00:17:09.36
"How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
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how you are cut
down to the ground,
00:17:13.36\00:17:15.50
you who weakened the nations!
00:17:15.56\00:17:17.13
for you have said in your heart:
'I will ascend into heaven,
00:17:17.17\00:17:20.27
I will exalt my throne
above the stars of God;
00:17:20.34\00:17:23.51
I will also sit on the
mount of the congregation
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on the farthest
sides of the north... '"
00:17:26.71\00:17:28.61
and so... the 14th...
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"I will ascend above
the heights of the clouds,
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I will be like the Most High. "
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Ivor: So, when we look at
that image in Daniel chapter 3,
00:17:35.35\00:17:39.65
that image is
really a reflection
00:17:39.69\00:17:43.46
not of Nebuchadnezzar himself
00:17:43.49\00:17:45.03
but of the true
king of Babylon, right?
00:17:45.06\00:17:48.03
Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:17:48.06\00:17:49.90
Ivor: That's an image
of the king of the north.
00:17:49.93\00:17:52.93
James: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:17:52.97\00:17:54.30
Ivor: And James when I talked
about how there's this like...
00:17:54.34\00:17:57.31
this line of...
00:17:57.34\00:17:59.51
you're talking about
God's mercy to Nebuchadnezzar,
00:17:59.54\00:18:01.61
but at the same
time we're seeing,
00:18:01.64\00:18:03.45
"Hey, this image is pure
wicked, it's pure evil... "
00:18:03.48\00:18:06.38
it's like, God is trying
to remove Nebuchadnezzar...
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"Nebuchadnezzar, you don't
want to be the personification
00:18:09.28\00:18:13.09
of who you're being
the personification of
00:18:13.15\00:18:15.49
which you don't even realize
00:18:15.52\00:18:16.86
you're being that
personification. "
00:18:16.89\00:18:18.23
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:18:18.26\00:18:19.59
Ivor: And you would
think that God would be like...
00:18:19.63\00:18:20.96
"Oh, you're the personification
of this person...
00:18:21.00\00:18:22.93
well, I'm going
to treat you ill...
00:18:22.96\00:18:24.40
okay, and this is
what's going to happen to Satan
00:18:24.43\00:18:26.47
and this is what's going to... "
00:18:26.50\00:18:27.84
no... He's trying to
work with the individual
00:18:27.87\00:18:29.84
separating him from the position
00:18:29.87\00:18:32.24
that he doesn't even
realize... "I'm king of kings...
00:18:32.27\00:18:36.98
worship this great image
that happens to measure 60...
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60 cubits and 6...
" whatever it was...
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he doesn't even
realize what he's doing.
00:18:44.35\00:18:46.52
Yvonne: Right.
00:18:46.55\00:18:47.89
Ivor: And God's
trying to win him...
00:18:47.92\00:18:49.26
He's saying,
"Nebuchadnezzar... no, you...
00:18:49.29\00:18:51.53
you don't want
to... this is not right,
00:18:51.56\00:18:53.83
you don't want to go there
00:18:53.86\00:18:55.20
and so, what
Daniel 3 is showing us
00:18:55.23\00:18:58.53
is once again
helping us to understand
00:18:58.57\00:19:01.87
what happens in
Daniel chapter 11
00:19:01.90\00:19:04.04
right, because you
have the king of the south
00:19:04.07\00:19:07.31
attacking the
king of the north...
00:19:07.34\00:19:09.11
the king of the
north attacks back...
00:19:09.14\00:19:10.91
defeats the king of the south...
00:19:10.95\00:19:12.78
turns the
attention to Jerusalem...
00:19:12.81\00:19:15.68
seeks to enforce
the wine of Babylon...
00:19:15.72\00:19:18.59
then hears a message...
00:19:18.62\00:19:21.49
remember
Nebuchadnezzar chapter 2...
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Daniel chapter 2 verse 1,
Nebuchadnezzar is troubled
00:19:23.39\00:19:29.16
because of the
news that he hears...
00:19:29.20\00:19:31.73
news regarding
the north and the east
00:19:31.77\00:19:34.24
and so, what does he
do as a result of that?
00:19:34.27\00:19:36.77
In Daniel 3, he sets up an image
00:19:36.81\00:19:39.74
and commands all to bow
00:19:39.77\00:19:42.54
and what you're
going to see is that
00:19:42.58\00:19:44.25
by the time we get to
Daniel 11, you'll be like,
00:19:44.28\00:19:47.48
"Oh... oh... oh yeah,
this is the exact history
00:19:47.52\00:19:50.19
that we're following
that happened literally
00:19:50.25\00:19:52.89
it's now supposed
to happen spiritually
00:19:52.92\00:19:54.72
at the time of the end. "
00:19:54.76\00:19:56.09
Yvonne: Hmmm...
James: Yeah, definitely.
00:19:56.12\00:19:57.53
Yvonne: That's good.
00:19:57.59\00:19:58.93
James: So, we're seeing a
lot of the principles here
00:19:58.96\00:20:00.33
that are being developed
as we go through this...
00:20:00.36\00:20:01.86
one other thought that I
just want to touch on here...
00:20:01.90\00:20:06.30
why does...
00:20:06.33\00:20:07.80
why does Nebuchadnezzar
make the image all of gold?
00:20:07.84\00:20:10.11
Because he's afraid...
00:20:10.14\00:20:11.67
he's fearful of
the end of his kingdom
00:20:11.71\00:20:14.34
so, fear is a motivator...
00:20:14.41\00:20:16.18
it's not a good motivator
but fear is his motivator
00:20:16.21\00:20:19.15
and a lot of people in
this world are afraid...
00:20:19.18\00:20:21.88
the fear is something
that was instilled in us
00:20:21.92\00:20:24.45
from the fall...
00:20:24.49\00:20:25.92
Adam and Eve in the
garden... hiding from God.
00:20:25.95\00:20:28.12
"Why were you hiding?"
00:20:28.16\00:20:29.49
"We were afraid and
we hid ourselves... "
00:20:29.52\00:20:30.86
and fear is
something that love removes.
00:20:30.89\00:20:32.99
Perfect love casts out all fear
00:20:33.06\00:20:35.16
and so God is in
the business of removing
00:20:35.20\00:20:37.27
the fear of this world
and replacing it with His fear
00:20:37.30\00:20:39.63
there's a
difference between the two...
00:20:39.67\00:20:41.84
and that's what we're going
to see with Nebuchadnezzar.
00:20:41.87\00:20:43.84
He ends up being
filled with this holy fear...
00:20:43.87\00:20:46.64
with this gospel fear rather
than with this human fear...
00:20:46.68\00:20:50.55
with this natural
fear that we have... and...
00:20:50.58\00:20:53.21
Yvonne: You think he had a
combination of fear and pride
00:20:53.25\00:20:57.52
and the pride...
00:20:57.55\00:20:59.99
the fear of losing his position
and a lot of times with...
00:21:00.02\00:21:07.50
even politics
like what we see now...
00:21:07.53\00:21:10.07
power...
00:21:10.10\00:21:11.43
a lot of it is about power...
00:21:11.47\00:21:13.54
so, you've got the pride
and you've got the fear together
00:21:13.57\00:21:19.44
and if he had... if he
had given his heart to God
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both of those things
would have been separate
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but he didn't.
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James: And we can't deal
with those two principles
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without God's help.
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Yvonne: That's right.
00:21:30.79\00:21:32.12
James: They'll take
over and control us...
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they'll make us do
things and say things...
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and we see that in
the political world today.
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I mean, when you look at some
of the stuff that's coming out
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and it doesn't
matter what side you're on,
00:21:38.36\00:21:40.03
you realize how ridiculous it is
00:21:40.10\00:21:43.10
and you feel...
"Why did those people...
00:21:43.13\00:21:44.83
why did they say
that... why did they do that...
00:21:44.87\00:21:46.20
why did they lie... why
did they... d... d... d... "
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because of pride and fear
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and so it just leads
from one thing to the other
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until finally
it's all blown open...
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there's nothing
else you can do...
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that's where pride
and fear takes you.
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Yvonne: Yes.
00:21:55.51\00:21:56.85
Ivor: You know, you
look at Nebuchadnezzar's fear
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of the end of his kingdom
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right, and he utilizes his own
fear to get others to worship
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so, "You will die if
you don't do this... "
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James: Fear
breeds fear. All: Hmmm...
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Ivor: But it's powerful
because look how God speaks
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to Nebuchadnezzar...
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he's like, "Nebuchadnezzar, you
seem to be fearful of the end
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and of death... okay...
00:22:21.74\00:22:23.81
why don't you go ahead
and throw those three guys
00:22:23.84\00:22:25.71
into the fiery furnace... "
00:22:25.74\00:22:27.08
he throws them in and it's like,
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"Wait, what?
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that's the very
thing I'm afraid of... "
00:22:33.82\00:22:37.89
and God is in essence
saying to Nebuchadnezzar,
00:22:37.95\00:22:42.56
"If you serve me, you
don't need to be afraid. "
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All: Hmmm... hmmm... hmmm...
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James: Let me show you what
that looks like... and I think
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I'm going to jump ahead
now, we can read the verse
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but I think
that's one of the reasons
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why Nebuchadnezzar is so angry
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after he counters
these three guys...
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he gets angrier... his
veins start popping out...
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his countenance has changed...
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I think it's because he sees...
00:23:00.21\00:23:01.54
they have something
that he doesn't have.
00:23:01.58\00:23:03.31
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:23:03.35\00:23:04.68
James: Something that led
him to do what he was doing...
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but they're just like,
00:23:06.08\00:23:07.42
"Ah... whatever you
do... we're not afraid. "
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He's like, "You're
not afraid? Are you...
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did you hear what he said?"
00:23:11.39\00:23:13.52
You know, he says,
00:23:13.56\00:23:14.89
"Are you sure you
heard what I said?"
00:23:14.92\00:23:16.26
Let's get into that...
let's just read a few...
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we got a few
moments here, let's read...
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let's start here in...
who'd like to read verses...
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let's see, verse 8
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and we'll read all the
way through here to verse 13.
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Yvonne: Okay,
"Therefore at that time
00:23:30.91\00:23:33.17
certain Chaldeans came
forward and accused the Jews.
00:23:33.24\00:23:36.28
They spoke and said
to King Nebuchadnezzar,
00:23:36.34\00:23:38.88
'O king, live forever!
00:23:38.91\00:23:40.45
You, O king, have made a decree
00:23:40.52\00:23:42.78
that everyone who
hears the sound of the horn,
00:23:42.82\00:23:44.69
flute, harp, lyre, and psaltery,
00:23:44.72\00:23:47.56
in symphony with
all kinds of music,
00:23:47.59\00:23:50.33
shall fall down and
worship the gold image;
00:23:50.36\00:23:52.99
and whoever does not
fall down and worship
00:23:53.06\00:23:55.63
shall be cast into the midst
of a burning fiery furnace.
00:23:55.66\00:23:58.43
There are certain Jews
00:23:58.47\00:24:00.34
whom you have
set over the affairs
00:24:00.40\00:24:01.97
of the province of Babylon:
Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego;
00:24:02.00\00:24:05.37
these men, O king, have
not paid due regard to you.
00:24:05.41\00:24:09.18
They do not serve your
gods or worship the gold image
00:24:09.21\00:24:12.91
which you have set up. '
00:24:12.95\00:24:14.28
Then King Nebuchadnezzar,
in rage and fury,
00:24:14.32\00:24:17.09
gave the command to bring
Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.
00:24:17.12\00:24:20.69
So they brought these
men before the king. "
00:24:20.72\00:24:22.86
James: All right, so, right here
00:24:22.89\00:24:24.69
the first thing I think
we're dealing with is pride.
00:24:24.73\00:24:26.49
Yvonne: Oh yeah.
00:24:26.53\00:24:27.86
James: Pride is first...
00:24:27.90\00:24:29.23
"What do you mean there's
people that aren't bowing down
00:24:29.26\00:24:31.37
and worshipping, you
bring those people... "
00:24:31.40\00:24:32.73
he's... now he's angry...
00:24:32.77\00:24:34.10
because of pride
00:24:34.14\00:24:35.47
but as we get
to the next verses,
00:24:35.50\00:24:36.94
we're going to see now
that his anger even increases
00:24:36.97\00:24:39.94
because he starts
seeing in them lack of fear...
00:24:39.97\00:24:42.74
they've got something
the king doesn't have.
00:24:42.78\00:24:45.51
The king... the king
doesn't have what they've got.
00:24:45.55\00:24:47.75
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:24:47.78\00:24:49.12
James: I think that...
that we've got to remember that
00:24:49.15\00:24:50.99
in our practical
Christian experience
00:24:51.02\00:24:52.69
that when we encounter people,
God wants to give us His peace.
00:24:52.72\00:24:56.49
The peace of the
gospel is powerful
00:24:56.52\00:24:58.73
and Satan is angry...
he wants to take that away.
00:24:58.76\00:25:01.00
When people see that we
have peace in the midst of anger
00:25:01.03\00:25:04.43
they're going to see
that we have something
00:25:04.47\00:25:06.63
that they don't have.
00:25:06.67\00:25:08.00
That's the way it
was with Paul and Silas
00:25:08.04\00:25:09.90
when they were in that prison
00:25:09.94\00:25:11.27
and they were beaten and
they were put in shackles
00:25:11.31\00:25:13.48
and they were put
in the inner prison
00:25:13.51\00:25:14.84
and when all of that took place,
00:25:14.88\00:25:17.38
all of the prisoners
and the prison guards
00:25:17.41\00:25:20.35
heard men who weren't moaning
and groaning and swearing...
00:25:20.38\00:25:24.79
they were singing praises to God
00:25:24.85\00:25:27.19
and they were like, "Whoa... "
00:25:27.22\00:25:29.52
and then there was an
earthquake, of course,
00:25:29.56\00:25:30.89
because, you
know, what does it say?
00:25:30.93\00:25:32.66
"And God inhabits the
praises of His people... "
00:25:32.69\00:25:34.70
so He comes down and
inhabits those praises...
00:25:34.73\00:25:36.67
so the doors fly open
00:25:36.70\00:25:38.03
and the first thing that
Paul says to the prison guards,
00:25:38.07\00:25:41.80
"Do yourself no harm... "
00:25:41.84\00:25:43.17
Yvonne: Right.
00:25:43.20\00:25:44.54
James: The first
thing that Daniel says is,
00:25:44.57\00:25:45.91
"Don't hurt the
wise men of Babylon... "
00:25:45.94\00:25:47.28
so, Christians
are other-centered...
00:25:47.31\00:25:48.64
they're
other-focused... they're...
00:25:48.68\00:25:50.01
they're... they're
out-focused not in-focused,
00:25:50.05\00:25:51.95
they're focusing
out... thinking of others
00:25:52.01\00:25:54.52
and at the same time, their...
00:25:54.55\00:25:56.92
their testimony
in the midst of trial
00:25:56.95\00:25:59.69
is one of praise
and trust in God.
00:25:59.72\00:26:02.42
Ivor: In the face of anger.
00:26:02.49\00:26:04.03
James: Yeah, and
so the Jailor says,
00:26:04.06\00:26:05.43
"What must I do to be saved?"
00:26:05.46\00:26:07.80
Yvonne: Right, because
he's going to kill himself.
00:26:07.83\00:26:09.56
James: And what
he means by that...
00:26:09.60\00:26:10.93
he was going to kill
himself but also he was saying,
00:26:10.97\00:26:12.43
"What must I do to be saved?"
00:26:12.47\00:26:13.80
and what he
means by that is not,
00:26:13.84\00:26:15.17
"What must I do
to join your church
00:26:15.20\00:26:16.54
and believe the
28 Fundamentals?"
00:26:16.57\00:26:17.91
What he's saying is,
00:26:17.94\00:26:19.27
"What must I do to have
an experience like that?"
00:26:19.31\00:26:21.14
Yvonne: Right... right...
"I want what you have. "
00:26:21.18\00:26:23.65
James: "I want what you have. "
00:26:23.68\00:26:25.01
Ivor: It's just interesting
in Daniel 11:44, the Bible says,
00:26:25.05\00:26:30.69
"But tidings out of the
east and out of the north
00:26:30.72\00:26:32.95
shall trouble him... "
00:26:32.99\00:26:34.32
talking about the
king of the north...
00:26:34.36\00:26:35.69
"therefore he shall go forth
with great fury to destroy,
00:26:35.72\00:26:40.80
and utterly to make away many. "
00:26:40.83\00:26:42.83
Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:26:42.86\00:26:44.30
Ivor: This
event... whatever this is...
00:26:44.33\00:26:45.87
talking about Daniel 11:44
00:26:45.90\00:26:47.24
parallels exactly what we're
looking at in Daniel chapter 3.
00:26:47.27\00:26:49.80
Yvonne: Hmmm...
00:26:49.84\00:26:51.17
Ivor: You're not afraid
00:26:51.21\00:26:52.54
that I'm going to do everything
to instill my fear in you...
00:26:52.57\00:26:58.95
James: To intimidate...
00:26:58.98\00:27:00.32
Ivor: To intimidate
00:27:00.35\00:27:01.68
and what... how the
three Hebrews stand with this
00:27:01.72\00:27:05.22
is an object lesson
for us at the end of time.
00:27:05.25\00:27:08.79
James: It's... it's
powerful because it's the gospel
00:27:08.82\00:27:11.16
and it's the gospel in
times of the east and the north
00:27:11.19\00:27:13.50
and it's going to
be the gospel here
00:27:13.53\00:27:15.26
and that gospel
gives us the peace
00:27:15.30\00:27:16.97
to stand in the
midst of the fiery storm...
00:27:17.00\00:27:18.53
in the midst of fiery trial.
00:27:18.57\00:27:19.90
God wants to put... instill
the gospel into our hearts.
00:27:19.93\00:27:22.14
Yvonne: Yes.
00:27:22.17\00:27:23.51
James: Yeah, the parallel
is really powerful, isn't it?
00:27:23.54\00:27:24.87
Ivor: Yeah.
Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:27:24.91\00:27:26.24
James: So, we're going to...
00:27:26.27\00:27:27.61
we're running out of time
here so, we're going to...
00:27:27.64\00:27:28.98
we're going to hold up
right there at verse 13
00:27:29.01\00:27:31.18
and we'll pick up with verse 14
00:27:31.21\00:27:33.15
into the second part...
00:27:33.21\00:27:34.68
I'm going to
say... the "Fear" part
00:27:34.72\00:27:36.38
of Nebuchadnezzar's anger.
00:27:36.42\00:27:37.75
Right now, he's in
the "Pride" part of anger
00:27:37.79\00:27:39.49
and in these next verses
00:27:39.52\00:27:40.86
we're going to see him get
into the "Fear" part of anger
00:27:40.89\00:27:42.52
and we'll see how...
how... why that happens...
00:27:42.56\00:27:45.29
it's a powerful,
powerful testimony.
00:27:45.33\00:27:48.00
Yvonne: So we have
a little cliffhanger.
00:27:48.03\00:27:49.53
James: We have a
little cliffhanger.
00:27:49.56\00:27:50.90
All: Laughter...
00:27:50.93\00:27:52.27
James: It's a
good stopping place.
00:27:52.30\00:27:53.64
Yvonne: That's right,
that's right... it's good.
00:27:53.67\00:27:55.00
James: Lots of good
stuff right here, praise God.
00:27:55.04\00:27:56.54
Yvonne: Amen.
00:27:56.57\00:27:58.17